Re: [MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Well, this Ford truck guy now just takes it to the dealer (or would if
there had been any reason to).

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some
> Frod truck people here….
>
> Donald, ask away!!
>
> Dan
>
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> > From: Donald Snook 
> > Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> > Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> > To: Dan Penoff 
> >
> > My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?
> I didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I
> have an A/c issue I am trying to figure out.
> >
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[MBZ] FP-K22MW21 Lift pump

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Looks like an Isnoozu lift pump will fit on the IP and could be 
adapted.  I'd need a couple of banjo fittings.  I should have the banjo 
fittings on unused engines.




eBay item number:161658558971


Maybe someone with access to an Isuzu could measure the mounting holes 
and compare to an OM616 or 617 NA.  I don't  know if a 617 turbo has the 
same mounting, but I'd guess it is still the same.




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[MBZ] FP-K22MW21 pump kit

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

THe OM616/617NA transfer pump (lift pump) is Bosch FP-K22MW2  or ten 
digit 2 445 103 010.  MB never did provide a kit in the USA, and I don't 
now if Bosch ever did.  I am thinking in the RTW, that a kit may be 
available.  has anyone ever seen a kit or have foreign contacts to 
inquire about a kit for the pump?


Nothing turns up on fleabay except a pump body.  That is the one part I 
don't need.


The good news is that I took the 240D out tonight for a 2 mile run, and 
now it runs fine.  The apparent warning I had, but was unable to 
attribute to any cause, is that at idle, especially when cold, the 
engine would randomly miss at idle.  The pump seemed to function 
adequately at higher RPM, as on last thursday I ran it probably 60 miles 
or so at highway speeds.  It is the opposite of a obstructed filter, or 
air leak which show up  first at high speed or starting.


I was able to pump up fuel easily with the hand primer.  It filled the 
hose to the filter and I bled the air out there, then tightened the new 
banjo fitting.  I have been hoarding new clear fuel lines since 1999.  I 
put the one from the transfer pump to the filter on with the used pump.  
Unfortunately the hand primer leaks when used.  THe original was ok I 
think.I may change that some day.


Has anyone seen exploded drawings of the pump or parts drawings?  I'd 
still like to figure out how they are made to see if I can repair the 
old ones.


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Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's your elevation AMSL, "Rich"?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> We have had pretty significant rain most of the day, forecast is for it to
> pass over my vast estate late tonight/early morning. Main problem is that
> we will have very high tides tonight and tomorrow so Charleston will
> probably be fairly flooded and there will be beach erosion.  No wind here
> now, will see if that picks up later.  Tide was very high around noon,
> night tide is usually even higher, but there had not yet been too much rain.
>
> The City opened all the parking garages for residents to move their cars,
> last fall a good part of the city was under a fair amount of water in that
> storm.
>
> --R
>
>
>
> On 6/6/16 8:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Tropical Storm Colin heading for Georgia and the Carolinas coast, and
>> points north. 50 mph winds so far.
>>
>>
>> http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/06/Emergency-declared-in-Florida-ahead-of-Tropical-Storm-Colin/7421465233982/?spt=hts=2
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Re: [MBZ] A rusty 4.5 for $20k

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's the black/red color combination.  Stunning for this model.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 8:32 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
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> For those of you who think everything is worth $1500:
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-4/
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Re: [MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

We have had pretty significant rain most of the day, forecast is for it 
to pass over my vast estate late tonight/early morning. Main problem is 
that we will have very high tides tonight and tomorrow so Charleston 
will probably be fairly flooded and there will be beach erosion.  No 
wind here now, will see if that picks up later.  Tide was very high 
around noon, night tide is usually even higher, but there had not yet 
been too much rain.


The City opened all the parking garages for residents to move their 
cars, last fall a good part of the city was under a fair amount of water 
in that storm.


--R


On 6/6/16 8:50 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Tropical Storm Colin heading for Georgia and the Carolinas coast, and points 
north. 50 mph winds so far.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/06/Emergency-declared-in-Florida-ahead-of-Tropical-Storm-Colin/7421465233982/?spt=hts=2

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Re: [MBZ] 300td travels

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On June 6, 2016 at 6:15 PM Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes  wrote:http://www.nwtfc.com/treks/1992/1992_trek.htmit's been sitting in a shed for 5 years so we'll see what there is to buy (at a Kaleb price)Seems like the fuel economy is about all most people like about 20 year old NPR box trucks. But I suppose there are ways to up the power a bit...http://www.4btswaps.com/forum/showthread.php?22355-94-Isuzu-Trek-Safari-needs-more-power!
 

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[MBZ] Tropical Storm Colin

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Tropical Storm Colin heading for Georgia and the Carolinas coast, and points 
north. 50 mph winds so far.

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2016/06/06/Emergency-declared-in-Florida-ahead-of-Tropical-Storm-Colin/7421465233982/?spt=hts=2

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[MBZ] A rusty 4.5 for $20k

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

For those of you who think everything is worth $1500:
http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-4/

Jaime


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Re: [MBZ] 300td travels

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Did I miss your trip to Chucktown?

Was not to far from Athens weekend past, but only overnight in Anderson SC for 
a wedding. 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 6, 2016 6:15:41 PM EDT, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Folks,
>
>knock on wood, but my 83 300td has been performing flawlessly for the
>past month
>
>mostly on grease, i've driven it
>
>from athens, ga to tybee island 260 miles
>
>from tybee to millen ga and back 180 miles
>
>to new orleans and back to tybee probably 1700 miles including driving
>around new orleans for 10 days
>
>from tybee to charleston sc 250 miles round trip
>
>then from tybee to red level al and andalusia al 430 miles each way
>(860 + local driving)
>
>ac running 98% of all travels
>
>not bad for an old car
>
>are there any list members in alabama?
>
>i'm over here maybe buying a safari trek on an isuzu npr chassis
>
>like this
>
>http://www.nwtfc.com/treks/1992/1992_trek.htm
>
>it's been sitting in a shed for 5 years so we'll see what there is to
>buy (at a Kaleb price)
>
>i need to make it work to transport it to somewhere more on the beaten
>path … this place is way nowhere off of I-65 south of montgomery al
>
>
>
>thanks,
>
>xx rick
>Rick Hawkins
>
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>www.javacycles.com
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Re: [MBZ] Curley car?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Nope, not I.  Mine is the first and last black car I will own.  The 200D 
2.4 ist blau.



Tom Savage via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 5:39 PMvia Postbox 


Curley, is this your car?
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/cc-outtake/cc-outtake-1966-heckflosse-reporting-for-duty/

Ton
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The Mexicans have a pretty inclusive school system that has an extremely 
powerful labor union, one of the strongest in the country.  Unfortunately, like 
many organized labor groups, it’s rife with cronyism and graft.

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 7:07 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was surprised to see that the Mexican literacy rate is about 95%. It must
> be that the Mexicans that come to the US are more heavily represented by
> those que no pueden leer.
> 
> As to the reason for the poverty despite the wealth of resources: cronyism
> and corruption; kind of like the way we've been going.
> 
> Greg
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I was surprised to see that the Mexican literacy rate is about 95%. It must
be that the Mexicans that come to the US are more heavily represented by
those que no pueden leer.

As to the reason for the poverty despite the wealth of resources: cronyism
and corruption; kind of like the way we've been going.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, June 06, 2016 2:33 PM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

It has long seemed to me that there is no fundamental reason for Mexico to
be less prosperous than the US.  Mexicans are educated, at least to the
point they are literate.  They are hard-working.  They have a strong family
identity.  They have great natural resources.  They have a large country
with a mild climate. And they have access to both Atlantic and Pacific
ports.  

 

So why is Mexico so poor and crime ridden that folks flock to the US for
jobs and safety?  

 

This is more than an idle question if we don't want the US to become Mexico.


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Re: [MBZ] 300td travels

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Very cool all around.  Pics of the motorhome.  Looks like you could tow 
the TD back home with it if it is driveable.


--JC
On 6/6/16 6:15 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:

Folks,

knock on wood, but my 83 300td has been performing flawlessly for the past month

mostly on grease, i've driven it

from athens, ga to tybee island 260 miles

from tybee to millen ga and back 180 miles

to new orleans and back to tybee probably 1700 miles including driving around 
new orleans for 10 days

from tybee to charleston sc 250 miles round trip

then from tybee to red level al and andalusia al 430 miles each way (860 + 
local driving)

ac running 98% of all travels

not bad for an old car

are there any list members in alabama?

i'm over here maybe buying a safari trek on an isuzu npr chassis

like this

http://www.nwtfc.com/treks/1992/1992_trek.htm

it's been sitting in a shed for 5 years so we'll see what there is to buy (at a 
Kaleb price)

i need to make it work to transport it to somewhere more on the beaten path … 
this place is way nowhere off of I-65 south of montgomery al



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
www.ricktheprinter.com
www.letterpressmachinery.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Best to change timing belt before it hits 100K miles (IMO) if it has an 
interference engine. Broken belt can break interference engines.

Except for 3.0L & 3.2L, Hondas have interference engines.

http://yourcarangel.com/2014/07/interference-engines-complete-list/

http://ask.metafilter.com/243055/Should-I-change-the-timing-belt-and-water-pump
~~
> YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 
> when her Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 
> 22K miles on it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
> No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have 
> done tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.
> 
> RB
> 
> On 06/06/2016 2:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:
> > The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
> > given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
> > little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
> > want to deal with a stealer or CL. Could maybe get an extended 
> > warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
> > and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
> > getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
> > old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
> > 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.
> >
> > The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
> > it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
> > the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
> >
> > Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
> > fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
> > got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
> > the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
> > time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
> > can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
> > putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
> > here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.
> >
> 
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[MBZ] Curley car?

[Tom Savage via Mercedes]

Curley, is this your car?
http://www.curbsideclassic.com/blog/cc-outtake/cc-outtake-1966-heckflosse-reporting-for-duty/

Ton
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[MBZ] Snook Needs Help!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Donald has questions about Ford truck AC systems.  I know there are some Frod 
truck people here….

Donald, ask away!!

Dan


> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: Donald Snook 
> Subject: RE: 300E 2.6
> Date: June 6, 2016 at 5:39:54 PM EDT
> To: Dan Penoff 
> 
> My wife wouldn't go for it.  I thought it would be a great car for my 
> stepdaughter.   Anyone in the group have some expertise with Ford Trucks?  I 
> didn't want to clog up the digests with Ford truck questions.  But, I have an 
> A/c issue I am trying to figure out. 
> 

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[MBZ] 300td travels

[Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes]

Folks,

knock on wood, but my 83 300td has been performing flawlessly for the past month

mostly on grease, i've driven it

from athens, ga to tybee island 260 miles

from tybee to millen ga and back 180 miles

to new orleans and back to tybee probably 1700 miles including driving around 
new orleans for 10 days

from tybee to charleston sc 250 miles round trip

then from tybee to red level al and andalusia al 430 miles each way (860 + 
local driving)

ac running 98% of all travels

not bad for an old car

are there any list members in alabama?

i'm over here maybe buying a safari trek on an isuzu npr chassis

like this

http://www.nwtfc.com/treks/1992/1992_trek.htm

it's been sitting in a shed for 5 years so we'll see what there is to buy (at a 
Kaleb price)

i need to make it work to transport it to somewhere more on the beaten path … 
this place is way nowhere off of I-65 south of montgomery al



thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

www.javaphoto.com
www.javacycles.com
LETTERPRESSES FOR SALE
www.ricktheprinter.com
www.letterpressmachinery.com

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

IN SHORT, MEXICO IS A SYSTEM OF FEUDAL LORDS.  (Complicated by friction 
between the political lords and the drug lord...when there is a difference.)



Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 4:52 PMvia Postbox 

I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but 
Mexico is similar enough.  She was the resident expert on certain 
political and economic matters in a certain SA country for A 
Government Agency, so was probably as knowledgeable about such things 
as anyone could be.  She has a degree from Georgetown in International 
Relations, and a fair amount of training.  She has briefed presidents 
directly/personally on these matters.


She thought about it a bit and attributed it to the effects of 
colonialism, in that the ruling classes of most LA countries are the 
descendants of the yurpeens, the Spanish specifically, and mostly 
white/mestizo not native and their attitudes towards the indigenos is 
not wildly different from colonial times 500 years ago.  That sorta 
made sense -- they have their status and wealth and really don't care 
that much about the rest.  In places where indigenos do get elected (I 
think Hugo in Venezuela and the guy in Bolivia?) they tend to go 
overboard the other way with the predictable results -- it gets even 
worse.


Interestingly, we were just in Peru and the electioneering was going 
big time for the election yesterday.  They started out with something 
like 30 candidates, it got winnowed down to 2, Fujimori and Kuczinski 
(sp?), both right-center candidates and obviously neither has an 
indigeno name, not even a Spanish name.  I'm still not sure which got 
elected as last I heard it was 50.5-49.5 for K.  In any case, Peru has 
been fairly right of center, and their economy has been going pretty 
well, and from what I saw it did not have the really bad poverty you 
see in Mexico and some other countries, though most people would not 
be wealthy by any means. The Fujimori candidate is the daughter of a 
former president, now in prison, who went a bit too far after 
eradicating the communist Shining Path uprising, which people are 
still grateful for though a few remain back in the mountains and in 
the forests causing trouble.


Some countries are starting to get their acts organized though 
Argentina keeps regressing every 10-15yr or so.  Chile is doing well, 
as I think is Colombia, mostly, after the bad times with the drug 
trade.  Brazil is starting to slow down after some good growth.  Costa 
Rica and Panama are doing pretty well.  Ecuador could but their idiot 
presidente keeps trying to screw things up with socialismo to appeal 
to the lower classes.  It seems that the ones doing well adopt some 
US-style reforms and the leaders take some interest in the general 
welfare and actually try to improve things.  Not so much in Mexico.


--JC




Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 4:32 PMvia Postbox 


It has long seemed to me that there is no fundamental reason for Mexico to
be less prosperous than the US. Mexicans are educated, at least to the
point they are literate. They are hard-working. They have a strong family
identity. They have great natural resources. They have a large country
with a mild climate. And they have access to both Atlantic and Pacific
ports.



So why is Mexico so poor and crime ridden that folks flock to the US for
jobs and safety?



This is more than an idle question if we don't want the US to become 
Mexico.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I asked my niece that question in reference to SA countries, but Mexico 
is similar enough.  She was the resident expert on certain political and 
economic matters in a certain SA country for A Government Agency, so was 
probably as knowledgeable about such things as anyone could be.  She has 
a degree from Georgetown in International Relations, and a fair amount 
of training.  She has briefed presidents directly/personally on these 
matters.


She thought about it a bit and attributed it to the effects of 
colonialism, in that the ruling classes of most LA countries are the 
descendants of the yurpeens, the Spanish specifically, and mostly 
white/mestizo not native and their attitudes towards the indigenos is 
not wildly different from colonial times 500 years ago.  That sorta made 
sense -- they have their status and wealth and really don't care that 
much about the rest.  In places where indigenos do get elected (I think 
Hugo in Venezuela and the guy in Bolivia?) they tend to go overboard the 
other way with the predictable results -- it gets even worse.


Interestingly, we were just in Peru and the electioneering was going big 
time for the election yesterday.  They started out with something like 
30 candidates, it got winnowed down to 2, Fujimori and Kuczinski (sp?), 
both right-center candidates and obviously neither has an indigeno name, 
not even a Spanish name.  I'm still not sure which got elected as last I 
heard it was 50.5-49.5 for K.  In any case, Peru has been fairly right 
of center, and their economy has been going pretty well, and from what I 
saw it did not have the really bad poverty you see in Mexico and some 
other countries, though most people would not be wealthy by any means. 
The Fujimori candidate is the daughter of a former president, now in 
prison, who went a bit too far after eradicating the communist Shining 
Path uprising, which people are still grateful for though a few remain 
back in the mountains and in the forests causing trouble.


Some countries are starting to get their acts organized though Argentina 
keeps regressing every 10-15yr or so.  Chile is doing well, as I think 
is Colombia, mostly, after the bad times with the drug trade.  Brazil is 
starting to slow down after some good growth.  Costa Rica and Panama are 
doing pretty well.  Ecuador could but their idiot presidente keeps 
trying to screw things up with socialismo to appeal to the lower 
classes.  It seems that the ones doing well adopt some US-style reforms 
and the leaders take some interest in the general welfare and actually 
try to improve things.  Not so much in Mexico.


--JC


On 6/6/16 5:32 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

It has long seemed to me that there is no fundamental reason for Mexico to
be less prosperous than the US.  Mexicans are educated, at least to the
point they are literate.  They are hard-working.  They have a strong family
identity.  They have great natural resources.  They have a large country
with a mild climate. And they have access to both Atlantic and Pacific
ports.

  


So why is Mexico so poor and crime ridden that folks flock to the US for
jobs and safety?

  


This is more than an idle question if we don't want the US to become Mexico.


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[MBZ] OT: Mexicans

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

It has long seemed to me that there is no fundamental reason for Mexico to
be less prosperous than the US.  Mexicans are educated, at least to the
point they are literate.  They are hard-working.  They have a strong family
identity.  They have great natural resources.  They have a large country
with a mild climate. And they have access to both Atlantic and Pacific
ports.  

 

So why is Mexico so poor and crime ridden that folks flock to the US for
jobs and safety?  

 

This is more than an idle question if we don't want the US to become Mexico.


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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a new E wagen?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Sure, if'n you're buyin!


Joel Cairo via Mercedes 
June 6, 2016 at 2:11 PMvia Postbox 


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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Despite the “Drive it like it’s a rental” thing, rentals cars are pretty well 
maintained and most of the places even provide a warranty.

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 4:14 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 when her 
> Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 22K miles on 
> it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
> No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have done 
> tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.
> 
> RB


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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 06/06/2016 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry... my PhD in Typo rules yet again..
However... even spelled correctly.. the site won't open because Java has it
blocked.. and refused to allow it as an exception.. in my case..

It's harshing my mellow..

Wouldn't let me in either because it said my Java was out of date and 
had to be updated.
I have been avoiding updating because I use a program that is often not 
up to date and won't play nice with the newest forms of Java.
It is a pain trying to go back downwards after updating so I avoid it as 
long as I can.


RB

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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

YMMV of course but we bought a former rental car for my wife in 2008 
when her Toyota Avalon got written off. We got a 2007 Honda Accord with 
22K miles on it for what we thought was a reasonable price.
No real issues with it since. It now has 60K miles on it and we have 
done tires, a battery, brakes and a starter. Starter was just last week.


RB

On 06/06/2016 2:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes wrote:
The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a 
little car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't 
want to deal with a stealer or CL. Could maybe get an extended 
warranty.  The local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans 
and hyundais look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on 
getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 
old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 
2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and 
the prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running 
fine but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He 
got another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match 
the car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the 
time it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He 
can't get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see 
putting that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it 
here and get something for it or give it to the girl again.





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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I wouldn't mind it but he just doesn't want to fool with an older car, 
even though it might be fairly reliable.  BTDT.


--R


On 6/6/16 4:03 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you should get this?  We can swap in the interior from Wilton's car.

91 MERCEDES BENZ * 300 SERIES * MUST SEE
http://greenville.craigslist.org/ctd/5595482691.html

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD given
he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little car. He's
OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to deal with a
stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The local/nearby
Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look all to be
ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish
miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked
a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.

The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive it,
I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the prices
are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.

Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't get it
inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting that kind of
$$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get something for it
or give it to the girl again.

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Re: [MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Maybe you should get this?  We can swap in the interior from Wilton's car.

91 MERCEDES BENZ * 300 SERIES * MUST SEE
http://greenville.craigslist.org/ctd/5595482691.html

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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:40 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD given
> he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little car. He's
> OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to deal with a
> stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The local/nearby
> Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais look all to be
> ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an ex-rental with 15-20k-ish
> miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with reasonable miles.  He kinda liked
> a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, the others I looked at are 4WD.
>
> The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive it,
> I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the prices
> are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.
>
> Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine
> but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got another
> one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the car's
> computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time it is
> pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't get it
> inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting that kind of
> $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get something for it
> or give it to the girl again.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a new E wagen?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It also requires a human driver.  How  turn-of-the-millennium can you get.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:58 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
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> No diesel, no deal.
>
> -
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> Charleston SC
>
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 3:11 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > http://jalopnik.com/2017-mercedes-e-class-wagon-this-is-it-1780768528
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Who wants a new E wagen?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

No diesel, no deal.

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> http://jalopnik.com/2017-mercedes-e-class-wagon-this-is-it-1780768528
>
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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Sorry... my PhD in Typo rules yet again..
However... even spelled correctly.. the site won't open because Java has it
blocked.. and refused to allow it as an exception.. in my case..

It's harshing my mellow..


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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The site you list there is not the okie site, you need to take the a out
> of okie
>
> --JC
>
>
> On 6/6/16 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak..
>> so
>> all direction gladly accepted.
>>
>> The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.
>> www.oakiebenz.com
>> which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
>> not a secure site and verboten..
>>
>> Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
>> boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
>> blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
>> page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..
>>
>> Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))
>>
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>> https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email_source=link_campaign=sig-email_content=webmail_term=icon
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>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
>>> hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
>>> options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel
>>> open,
>>> under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
>>> the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
>>> you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
>>> certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage
>>> Certificates"
>>> button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
>>> the site certificate.
>>>
>>> Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
>>> problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the
>>> website?
>>> I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with
>>> all
>>> my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses
>>> to
>>> run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
>>> Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
>>> security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
>>> Net.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread directly

>>> from
>>>
 the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security has
 the
 menu items that would allow that blocked.

 Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to

>>> post ?
>>>
 I would be ever so grateful.

>>>
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[MBZ] OT knead sum advise

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

The boy wants a "new" car.  I'm thinking a small-mid-sized SUV A/4WD 
given he is in a northern climate and it would be roomier than a little 
car. He's OK with that.  Looking at Carmax just because I don't want to 
deal with a stealer or CL.  Could maybe get an extended warranty.  The 
local/nearby Carmaxes have a bunch of SUVs, the Nissans and hyundais 
look all to be ex-rentals ("fleet").  Any thoughts on getting an 
ex-rental with 15-20k-ish miles? 2013-2015 so a year or 3 old with 
reasonable miles.  He kinda liked a RAV4 but they only had 2WD models, 
the others I looked at are 4WD.


The basic issue is he does not want to deal with a car except to drive 
it, I'm thinking the asian stuff is fairly reliable, relatively, and the 
prices are in the $20k-$23k range which is doable.


Thoughts?  BTW he has my dad's old 98 Caddy DeVille that is running fine 
but the electronic instrument cluster has gone mostly inop.  He got 
another one off ebay which works but it has to be flashed to match the 
car's computer or something, and that costs like $800-$900 by the time 
it is pulled, flashed, organized somehow, then reinstalled.  He can't 
get it inspected in nannyland without doing that, I can't see putting 
that kind of $$ into an 18yo car, I could probably sell it here and get 
something for it or give it to the girl again.


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[MBZ] Who wants a new E wagen?

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

http://jalopnik.com/2017-mercedes-e-class-wagon-this-is-it-1780768528

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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

The site you list there is not the okie site, you need to take the a out 
of okie


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On 6/6/16 3:09 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak.. so
all direction gladly accepted.

The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.www.oakiebenz.com
which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
not a secure site and verboten..

Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..

Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))


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On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel open,
under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage Certificates"
button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
the site certificate.

Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the website?
I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with all
my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses to
run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
Net.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Thanks heaps for your response.. I'm "computer challenged" in PC speak.. so
all direction gladly accepted.

The issue "seems to be" that the site address is http://.www.oakiebenz.com
which Java will not accept because it is not "https" thus, in Java wisdom
not a secure site and verboten..

Because Java will not allow the site to fully open, all the "click here"
boxes on the opening page remain empty, or non responsive.. thus, I'm
blocked from access to them.. what ever they are.. All I get is the open
page welcoming me to OakieBenz with a nice picture of a Merc..

Stumped and Stupid... seems to about cover it.. ;))


Virus-free.
www.avast.com

<#DDB4FAA8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 4:23 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
> hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
> options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel open,
> under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
> the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
> you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
> certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage Certificates"
> button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
> the site certificate.
>
> Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
> problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the website?
> I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with all
> my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses to
> run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
> Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
> security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
> Net.
>
> On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
>
> > On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread directly
> from
> > the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security has
> > the
> > menu items that would allow that blocked.
> >
> > Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to
> post ?
> > I would be ever so grateful.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Hmmm, did you give any "special" massages?  Cabana boy?

--JC


On 6/6/16 2:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Angie used to massage a lady who snowbirded to Palm Beach (NOT West Palm!) We 
used to drive her car down for her and spend a week in her huge condo on the 
beach. I'm not a fan of Florida in general but hanging out in her condo was 
pretty awesome. She had big $$ so she'd pay for everything, have a live in 
massage therapist and I'd be her driver for the week. Haven't talked to her in 
years, not sure she's even alive any more.
-Curt

   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

I miss fall the most when it comes to seasons.  There is no fall in Florida, just a rather quick change from hotter than HELL to quite nice and comfortable.  The winter months here are wonderful, but I do miss the change of seasons…


Dan



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wrote:

Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp. Was in 
the 90s here that week.
Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too humid, 
this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late September and 
early October because theres fewer bugs...
-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

East coast/south Florida climate is very different from the west coast.  West 
Palm and environs is far more tropical.  Our summers are typically high 80s/low 
90s with humidity, cooling off in the evenings from the sea breeze. October to 
April is really nice, with temps in the 70s and low humidity, like early fall 
in the north.

It’s like anyplace else I’ve lived (except SFO) where during extreme seasons 
like summer or winter you just dress for it and stay in conditioned spaces.

Dan

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:43 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Angie used to massage a lady who snowbirded to Palm Beach (NOT West Palm!) We 
> used to drive her car down for her and spend a week in her huge condo on the 
> beach. I'm not a fan of Florida in general but hanging out in her condo was 
> pretty awesome. She had big $$ so she'd pay for everything, have a live in 
> massage therapist and I'd be her driver for the week. Haven't talked to her 
> in years, not sure she's even alive any more.
> -Curt
> 
>  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes List  
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 2:31 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
> 
> I miss fall the most when it comes to seasons.  There is no fall in Florida, 
> just a rather quick change from hotter than HELL to quite nice and 
> comfortable.  The winter months here are wonderful, but I do miss the change 
> of seasons…
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp. Was 
>> in the 90s here that week.
>> Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too humid, 
>> this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late September 
>> and early October because theres fewer bugs...
>> -Curt
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Angie used to massage a lady who snowbirded to Palm Beach (NOT West Palm!) We 
used to drive her car down for her and spend a week in her huge condo on the 
beach. I'm not a fan of Florida in general but hanging out in her condo was 
pretty awesome. She had big $$ so she'd pay for everything, have a live in 
massage therapist and I'd be her driver for the week. Haven't talked to her in 
years, not sure she's even alive any more.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 2:31 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
   
I miss fall the most when it comes to seasons.  There is no fall in Florida, 
just a rather quick change from hotter than HELL to quite nice and comfortable. 
 The winter months here are wonderful, but I do miss the change of seasons…

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp. Was 
> in the 90s here that week.
> Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too humid, 
> this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late September 
> and early October because theres fewer bugs...
> -Curt
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I miss fall the most when it comes to seasons.  There is no fall in Florida, 
just a rather quick change from hotter than HELL to quite nice and comfortable. 
 The winter months here are wonderful, but I do miss the change of seasons…

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp. Was 
> in the 90s here that week.
> Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too humid, 
> this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late September 
> and early October because theres fewer bugs...
> -Curt
> 


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

SE Australia just got hit with some ferocious storms. Some of the pricy
beachfront property N of Sydney was especially hard hit.
http://www.bing.com/news/search?q=Australia+Storms+Sydney=australia+storms+sydney=EWRE


On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp.
> Was in the 90s here that week.
> Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too
> humid, this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late
> September and early October because theres fewer bugs...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 2:20 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
>
> How warm was it up there this time of year?
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some
> thunderstorms tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know
> what they're talking about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where
> 20% chance of showers meant "heavy rain all day"...
> > -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Pretty nice, 70s and low 80s. Was 80+ 2 weeks ago when we were at camp. Was in 
the 90s here that week.
Trees are all leafed out, flowers are in bloom, not too hot, not too humid, 
this is almost the best time of the year. I actually prefer late September and 
early October because theres fewer bugs...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 2:20 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
   
How warm was it up there this time of year?

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some thunderstorms 
> tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know what they're 
> talking about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where 20% chance of 
> showers meant "heavy rain all day"...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

2 hours.  4:20

--R


On 6/6/16 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

High time or high tide in a couple hours?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some
thunderstorms tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know
what they're talking about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where
20% chance of showers meant "heavy rain all day"...
-Curt

   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:53 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

I just drove home in one of the rain bands that passed through.  Heavy
rain, some wind, but nothing of significance in my book.  Nice to have half
a day off to start the week.  High time in a couple of hours, which will be
somewhat ugly with the prevailing winds.

Dan



On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

It is raining like h.e.doublehockeysticks here now and I guess it will

just keep raining until the storm passes by.  No wind, just rain.  The tide
was quite high a little while ago, will be interesting to see how much
flooding tonight and tomorrow with high tides and yet more rain.

--JC


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

High time or high tide in a couple hours?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some
> thunderstorms tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know
> what they're talking about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where
> 20% chance of showers meant "heavy rain all day"...
> -Curt
>
>   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  To: Mercedes List 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
>  Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:53 PM
>  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
>
> I just drove home in one of the rain bands that passed through.  Heavy
> rain, some wind, but nothing of significance in my book.  Nice to have half
> a day off to start the week.  High time in a couple of hours, which will be
> somewhat ugly with the prevailing winds.
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It is raining like h.e.doublehockeysticks here now and I guess it will
> just keep raining until the storm passes by.  No wind, just rain.  The tide
> was quite high a little while ago, will be interesting to see how much
> flooding tonight and tomorrow with high tides and yet more rain.
> >
> > --JC
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

How warm was it up there this time of year?

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 2:14 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some thunderstorms 
> tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know what they're 
> talking about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where 20% chance of 
> showers meant "heavy rain all day"...
> -Curt


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Sunny and beautiful here in central MA. Slight chance of some thunderstorms 
tomorrow and a good chance the weather guessers don't know what they're talking 
about.At camp last week we had 3 days in a row where 20% chance of showers 
meant "heavy rain all day"...
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Monday, June 6, 2016 1:53 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating
   
I just drove home in one of the rain bands that passed through.  Heavy rain, 
some wind, but nothing of significance in my book.  Nice to have half a day off 
to start the week.  High time in a couple of hours, which will be somewhat ugly 
with the prevailing winds.

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is raining like h.e.doublehockeysticks here now and I guess it will just 
> keep raining until the storm passes by.  No wind, just rain.  The tide was 
> quite high a little while ago, will be interesting to see how much flooding 
> tonight and tomorrow with high tides and yet more rain.
> 
> --JC
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I just drove home in one of the rain bands that passed through.  Heavy rain, 
some wind, but nothing of significance in my book.  Nice to have half a day off 
to start the week.  High time in a couple of hours, which will be somewhat ugly 
with the prevailing winds.

Dan


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is raining like h.e.doublehockeysticks here now and I guess it will just 
> keep raining until the storm passes by.  No wind, just rain.   The tide was 
> quite high a little while ago, will be interesting to see how much flooding 
> tonight and tomorrow with high tides and yet more rain.
> 
> --JC
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

It is raining like h.e.doublehockeysticks here now and I guess it will 
just keep raining until the storm passes by.  No wind, just rain.   The 
tide was quite high a little while ago, will be interesting to see how 
much flooding tonight and tomorrow with high tides and yet more rain.


--JC


On 6/6/16 1:35 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks - just wondered where the storm was going after it hits the
Carolinas. Looks like the mid Atlantic will be spared.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Oops!

www.nhc.noaa.gov 



On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes 

wrote:

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:51:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> wrote:


You can't just go to www.nhc.com ?

Dan

Wrong URL; that one is an investment monitoring company.

The correct ones are:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ 
National Hurricane Center



http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents
<
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents

Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Forecast Cone for Storm Center





Sent from my iPad


On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 wrote:

Can someone please post a link to the storm track?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that
one coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one
will go right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good
rain.  Farmers probably won't be too happy with too much though.
But everything is very lush and green here, like being in a tropical
rain forest. High surf advisories though, could be fun to go over to
the beach tomorrow.

--JC




On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.

Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere
from 4-6 inches or more.



I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect
this will be more than a passing nuisance.

Dan

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Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go
to Tampa at this time.

--JC


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Re: [MBZ] Mexicans -- story

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

I think the major success our gummint is giving us today is that the VA 
will transgenderize any veteran who want it. I think that signifies they 
are all caught up on critical veteran care cases.


--JC


On 6/6/16 12:22 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Roger wrote:

...Without the availability of the drugs, there would be no users.

Apply Root Cause Analysis to prohibition.
Did Prohibition solve problems it intended to solve?
Root Cause Analysis for these social problems might make revolt
happen.  The natives want an out and the least expensive out is some
ham-handed pills or herb.
Root Cause Analysis probably gave us Iran-Contra 30-years ago and all
the fabulous government we have today.  FAA - yeah, how's that
working?  Education - how's that working?  Commerce - how's that
working?  Separation of Powers - how's that working?  Every agency of
government proceeds to total corruption.  Again, The Law by Frederic
Bastiat shows the Root Cause Analysis very accurately.
What is the phrase? - We have the government we want and deserve?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks - just wondered where the storm was going after it hits the
Carolinas. Looks like the mid Atlantic will be spared.

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oops!
>
> www.nhc.noaa.gov 
>
>
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:51:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > > wrote:
> >
> >> You can't just go to www.nhc.com ?
> >>
> >> Dan
> >
> > Wrong URL; that one is an investment monitoring company.
> >
> > The correct ones are:
> >
> >http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ 
> >National Hurricane Center
> >
> >
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents
> <
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents
> >
> > Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Forecast Cone for Storm Center
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Can someone please post a link to the storm track?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that
>  one coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one
>  will go right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good
>  rain.  Farmers probably won't be too happy with too much though.
>  But everything is very lush and green here, like being in a tropical
>  rain forest. High surf advisories though, could be fun to go over to
>  the beach tomorrow.
> 
>  --JC
> 
> 
> 
> > On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.
> >
> > Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
> > afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere
> > from 4-6 inches or more.
> >
> > 
> >
> > I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect
> > this will be more than a passing nuisance.
> >
> > Dan
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go
> >> to Tampa at this time.
> >>
> >> --JC
> >>
> >>
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> > --
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> >oil pressure gauge and do
> >something about the failed
> >hood paint and attend to the
> >   headlight switch -- and now I
> >need to do something about the
> >broken left rear trailing arm)
> > '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
> > the Big Red Van)
> >
> > Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> > '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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> > '72 220/8
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Re: [MBZ] Today with the W126

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks!

I got the clear corner lights from a buddy on Benzworld.  They’re Depo brand 
from Europe. I use the “bronze” bulbs in them so they show yellow for both 
running and turn signals but appear as clear bulbs when off so you don’t get 
the “egg yoke” look you would otherwise have with yellow bulbs.

I’m not 100% with the clear corners, but my stock yellow corners were pretty 
beat up and I wanted to replace them.  When I was offered a set of new clear 
corners for $25 I decided I could live with them for now.

Dan

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 1:09 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Looks great!  Thanks for that Ebay link as well, I need a new lens for my
> 124 wagon driver's side.
> 
> Did your 126 come with the clear corner/signal lights, or did you purchase
> those somewhere recently?  I like that look much better than the yellow
> signals.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oops!

www.nhc.noaa.gov 


> On Jun 6, 2016, at 12:13 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:51:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> > wrote:
> 
>> You can't just go to www.nhc.com ?
>> 
>> Dan
> 
> Wrong URL; that one is an investment monitoring company.
> 
> The correct ones are:
> 
>http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/ 
>National Hurricane Center
> 
> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents
>  
> 
> Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Forecast Cone for Storm Center
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Can someone please post a link to the storm track?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that
 one coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one
 will go right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good
 rain.  Farmers probably won't be too happy with too much though.
 But everything is very lush and green here, like being in a tropical
 rain forest. High surf advisories though, could be fun to go over to
 the beach tomorrow.
 
 --JC
 
 
 
> On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.
> 
> Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
> afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere
> from 4-6 inches or more.
> 
> 
> 
> I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect
> this will be more than a passing nuisance.
> 
> Dan
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go
>> to Tampa at this time.
>> 
>> --JC
>> 
>> 
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> 
> 
> 
> Craig
> 
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>oil pressure gauge and do
>something about the failed
>hood paint and attend to the
>   headlight switch -- and now I
>need to do something about the
>broken left rear trailing arm)
> '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville Van (affectionately dubbed the BRV,
> the Big Red Van)
> 
> Past:'95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
> '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
> '86 190E/2.3
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Re: [MBZ] Today with the W126

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks great!  Thanks for that Ebay link as well, I need a new lens for my
124 wagon driver's side.

Did your 126 come with the clear corner/signal lights, or did you purchase
those somewhere recently?  I like that look much better than the yellow
signals.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 5:37 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since I can never seem to get my pictures to not get stripped by the
> Okieserver, here’s a link to the new lenses and one of the old ones for a
> comparison.  Tossed a picture of the W140 fan clutch that self destructed,
> too.
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/sh/dkum083bm51xavj/AAAIQMAlYG8FabcYSOgJV9NSa?dl=0
>  >
>
> Dan
>
>
> > On Jun 5, 2016, at 5:23 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Photos?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jun 5, 2016, at 4:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Installed my brand new Bosch headlight lenses on my Euro headlights.
> Nice.  No more ”sandblasted” look and better light, I’m assuming.
> >>
> >> Cost me less than $70 for the set from a German eBay seller.  Lenses
> were $16/each, shipping cost me about the same.
> >>
> >> Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

15 year warranty... Doesn't mention how much snow load its rated for.
I'm thinking more like: http://www.americansteelspan.com/garagekits.html
-Curt

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On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Farmtek.com

As in http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html

    and

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html


Craig


> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >
> > Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need 
> > another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in the 
> > size of a 2 car garage...
> > -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] Mexicans -- story

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Grant wrote:
> The "War on Drugs" started under LBJ.. if I recall correctly.. sooo..
> some 40+ years into that "War" and some un-counted billions of tax payer
> dollars..

Really, all wars are bankers wars.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Mexicans -- story

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Roger wrote:
> ...Without the availability of the drugs, there would be no users.

Apply Root Cause Analysis to prohibition.
Did Prohibition solve problems it intended to solve?
Root Cause Analysis for these social problems might make revolt
happen.  The natives want an out and the least expensive out is some
ham-handed pills or herb.
Root Cause Analysis probably gave us Iran-Contra 30-years ago and all
the fabulous government we have today.  FAA - yeah, how's that
working?  Education - how's that working?  Commerce - how's that
working?  Separation of Powers - how's that working?  Every agency of
government proceeds to total corruption.  Again, The Law by Frederic
Bastiat shows the Root Cause Analysis very accurately.
What is the phrase? - We have the government we want and deserve?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Mexicans -- story

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Curt wrote:
> How would you feel about Mexicans sending drones up here to wipe out the drug 
> users?

Nice!
+1
Trump builds a wall, Mexico flys drones to nuke users.
I will set up the kickstarter campaign today.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 6 Jun 2016 11:51:00 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You can't just go to www.nhc.com?
> 
> Dan

Wrong URL; that one is an investment monitoring company.

The correct ones are:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/
National Hurricane Center

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphics_at3+shtml/145701.shtml?5-daynl#contents
Coastal Watches/Warnings and 5-Day Forecast Cone for Storm Center




> Sent from my iPad
> 
> > On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Can someone please post a link to the storm track?
> > 
> > On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >> Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that
> >> one coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one
> >> will go right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good
> >> rain.  Farmers probably won't be too happy with too much though.
> >> But everything is very lush and green here, like being in a tropical
> >> rain forest. High surf advisories though, could be fun to go over to
> >> the beach tomorrow.
> >> 
> >> --JC
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>> On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.
> >>> 
> >>> Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
> >>> afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere
> >>> from 4-6 inches or more.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect
> >>> this will be more than a passing nuisance.
> >>> 
> >>> Dan
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPad
> >>> 
> >>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>  
>  Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go
>  to Tampa at this time.
>  
>  --JC
> 
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broken left rear trailing arm)
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Re: [MBZ] Mexicans

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> ...to try to keep the natives from revolting.

There is no possibility of revolt.  The natives are all happy with
good financial growth numbers, good prices for china goods,
meaningless press, more meaningless entertainment, and essentially
totally meaningless life.  Yeah, we are happy = no revolt.  ...which
is a good thing, but essentially meaningless.
The key word is meaningless.
Move on, folks - this thread is closed.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 05 Jun 2016 21:00:26 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Farmtek.com

As in http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1a;ft_fabric_buildings.html

and

http://www.farmtek.com/farm/supplies/cat1;ft_fabric_buildings;ft_garages_vehicle_storage.html


Craig


> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >
> > Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need 
> > another building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in the 
> > size of a 2 car garage...
> > -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You can't just go to www.nhc.com?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

> On Jun 6, 2016, at 11:47 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Can someone please post a link to the storm track?
> 
> On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that one
>> coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one will go
>> right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good rain.  Farmers
>> probably won't be too happy with too much though.  But everything is very
>> lush and green here, like being in a tropical rain forest. High surf
>> advisories though, could be fun to go over to the beach tomorrow.
>> 
>> --JC
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.
>>> 
>>> Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
>>> afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere from 4-6
>>> inches or more.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect this
>>> will be more than a passing nuisance.
>>> 
>>> Dan
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go to
 Tampa at this time.
 
 --JC


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Can someone please post a link to the storm track?

On Mon, Jun 6, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that one
> coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one will go
> right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good rain.  Farmers
> probably won't be too happy with too much though.  But everything is very
> lush and green here, like being in a tropical rain forest. High surf
> advisories though, could be fun to go over to the beach tomorrow.
>
> --JC
>
>
>
> On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.
>>
>> Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this
>> afternoon and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere from 4-6
>> inches or more.
>>
>> 
>>
>> I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect this
>> will be more than a passing nuisance.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go to
>>> Tampa at this time.
>>>
>>> --JC
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/6/16 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Just lots of rain and some wind. No biggie.

 Pm me if you want to get together. I'll drive the W126.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPad

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> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Is Tampa getting hammered by the storm?  On the way here
> tonight/tomorrow.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Absolutely. I95 north until just before Canada, then RT1 north for an hour...
-Curt

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On Jun 5, 2016 7:38 PM, "Dwight Giles via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Welcome back Curt. Someday  I 'd like to see your camp.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 1990 300D
> Wickford RI
> On Jun 5, 2016 10:00 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Farmtek.com
> >
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> >> June 5, 2016 at 11:10 AMvia Postbox <
> >>
> https://www.postbox-inc.com/?utm_source=email_medium=sumlink_campaign=reach
> >> >
> >> Should mostly pay for the tractor mentioned above but we'll need another
> >> building to put it in. Looking at maybe a quonset hut in the size of a 2
> >> car garage...
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Yeah we used the 1 wire Delco, its pretty well hidden under the hood. The 
wiring loom is all hidden in weaved tube that hides it pretty good. The only 
giveaway for now is the resistor bank that provides 6v to the coil. I bought a 
12v coil but figured I'd get it running with the old coil to try to not change 
too many things at once...
Ours has an inline gizmo so no light to excite the alternator, sano...
-Curt

  From: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
 To: Curt Raymond ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
 Sent: Sunday, June 5, 2016 11:35 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: I'm back!
   
waytago!  for the 12v conversion.  I did that last year on my H, after much 
soul searching about keeping it original.  Did you use the small Japanee 
alternator that fits under the hood?  With period wiring and wire loom, it 
still looks original except for the new red light on the control panel with the 
headllight switch.  it is an idiot light that doubles as the exciter circuit 
for the alt.  Same as on most cars and on my BMW R75/5.  The ammeter is still 
in place and functional.

For last year's tractor ride, the H got lots of work before and after the ride. 
 For this year, it is getting an umbrella for operator comfort.  


   Curt Raymond via Mercedes  June 5, 2016 at 11:10 AM via Postbox  Spent the 
last two weeks at camp in Maine where my cell phone didn't have reception, 
though strangely Angie's did and we're on the same carrier...
Anyway some highlights:'52 Farmall Super M repairs, valve cover gasket, 
finalized 12v conversion, replaced starter, got 2 of 3 lights working, 
installed the cleaned and sealed gas tank, ruined sediment bowl, replaced same, 
replaced leaking valve core, applied teflon tape to valve stem cap when the 
replaced valve core wouldn't seal. Plowed and harrowed about 1/8 acre for 
planting peas, mowed about 10 acres.
Transplanted 20 trees from random spots around the farm into our tree 
plantation.
Tried to convinced Dad to buy a new diesel New Holland tractor, might be nearly 
there.
Trimmed and thinned trees.
The starter on the Super M is the prime story of the trip, the starter failed 
last year and dad bought a replacement, that lasted about 3 starts until it 
totally locked up. He finally took it apart and realized that when the 
"rebuilder" went through it they'd used Locktite on the INSIDE of the bushing 
on the main shaft instead of the outside. Fortunately they used regular 
strength so it came off with a little heat. They musta used a lot, it came off 
in a sheet. Starter works slick now with the 12v conversion, it really spins 
the engine over fast, makes for easy starts.
Anyway two weeks let me get caught up some on a lot of the projects that had 
gotten ahead of me but I could have even used another couple weeks. I keep 
telling my boss that one of these trips I'm not going to come back...
Oh we also got a logger to come in and start taking trees. Our neighbor had a 
bunch of trees cut so the loggers got to just keep on rolling. We figure 
they're going to take something like 200 cords. Should mostly pay for the 
tractor mentioned above but we'll need another building to put it in. Looking 
at maybe a quonset hut in the size of a 2 car garage...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Agreed.  We got a big rain a coupla weeks ago while I was gone, that one 
coming in from the east.  No wind though.  Looks like this one will go 
right over our vast estate, so I'm guessing some more good rain.  
Farmers probably won't be too happy with too much though.  But 
everything is very lush and green here, like being in a tropical rain 
forest. High surf advisories though, could be fun to go over to the 
beach tomorrow.


--JC


On 6/6/16 10:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.

Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this afternoon 
and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere from 4-6 inches or more.



I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect this will be 
more than a passing nuisance.

Dan

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Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go to Tampa at 
this time.

--JC



On 6/6/16 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Just lots of rain and some wind. No biggie.

Pm me if you want to get together. I'll drive the W126.

Dan

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Is Tampa getting hammered by the storm?  On the way here tonight/tomorrow.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Gotcha. Read through that one way too fast.

Tropical storm force winds (+39 mph) are pretty much guaranteed this afternoon 
and evening. Lots of rain as well, forecasting anywhere from 4-6 inches or more.



I've encountered far worse storms in the Midwest. I don't expect this will be 
more than a passing nuisance.

Dan

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> On Jun 6, 2016, at 10:02 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
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> 
> Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go to Tampa at 
> this time.
> 
> --JC
> 
> 
>> On 6/6/16 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just lots of rain and some wind. No biggie.
>> 
>> Pm me if you want to get together. I'll drive the W126.
>> 
>> Dan
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>> Sent from my iPad
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>>> On Jun 6, 2016, at 9:54 AM, Joel Cairo via Mercedes  
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>>> Is Tampa getting hammered by the storm?  On the way here tonight/tomorrow.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Oh no I meant the storm is coming this way.  I have no need to go to 
Tampa at this time.


--JC


On 6/6/16 9:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Just lots of rain and some wind. No biggie.

Pm me if you want to get together. I'll drive the W126.

Dan

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Is Tampa getting hammered by the storm?  On the way here tonight/tomorrow.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Just lots of rain and some wind. No biggie.

Pm me if you want to get together. I'll drive the W126.

Dan

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[MBZ] OT Poos floating

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

Is Tampa getting hammered by the storm?  On the way here tonight/tomorrow.


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Re: [MBZ] Speaking if 124s

[Joel Cairo via Mercedes]

SEND TITLE

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On 6/5/16 10:19 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I have gone crazy and thinking about flying out to Tampa and driving back a 
really nice 90 2.5 turbo with 450k miles on it for $800. Everything works, has 
had a ton of dealer work done to it, trans was just rebuilt, paint body and 
interior is great. I am intrigued win have a near half a million mile seemingly 
well maintained car.

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking if 124s

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Dan is throwing in the towel already?

Yeah, pretty much anything rejected by Martha is better than the best car in my 
fleet, so if I had the means, I'd also consider that purchase.

Just returned from a trip up to Norfolk, over to Anderson SC, and back down to 
Chucktown, all driving my '95 sedan.  Mostly a very pleasant trip, but that car 
is a little under powered hauling three people and a trunk full of luggage.  
This morning I drove The White Whale to work, what a beast.  The injection pump 
from a 3.5 liter engine has transformed it into a hot rod, compared to the '95.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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>I have gone crazy and thinking about flying out to Tampa and driving
>back a really nice 90 2.5 turbo with 450k miles on it for $800.
>Everything works, has had a ton of dealer work done to it, trans was
>just rebuilt, paint body and interior is great. I am intrigued win have
>a near half a million mile seemingly well maintained car. 
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Re: [MBZ] Don't these things usually sell for a lot more than this?

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Making the assumption of Windows here. Java has a "Control Panel." If you
hit the "Windows Key" or click the Start menu then type Java, one of the
options should be "Configure Java." Once you have that control panel open,
under the Security tab there is an Exception Site List. Sometimes adding
the site to this list will help. If the site is secure (HTTPS / SSL) then
you will need to open the site, and download a copy of the sites public
certificate. Below the Exception Site List there is a "Manage Certificates"
button. Click this button, set the drop down to "Secure Site" and Import
the site certificate.

Realistically a site that is just using Java menus should not have this
problem. What is the actual URL for posting a new thread from the website?
I've not seen it before. However, I know I have to go through this with all
my Cisco gear to run the Java built ASDM software. The software refuses to
run if I haven't added the certificate from the ASA to the control panel.
Didn't use to be this way, but every new revision of Java gets tighter
security B.S. because of all the backdoor software running rampant on the
Net.

On Sun, Jun 5, 2016 at 2:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On another note.. I have never been able to post a new thread directly from
> the www.oakiebenz.com site... Finally discovered that Java security has
> the
> menu items that would allow that blocked.
>
> Anyone of the computer guru's here "splain" how I can reconfigure to post ?
> I would be ever so grateful.



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