Re: [MBZ] OT Bowsaw Crosscut Bucksaw

2016-08-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
You need a saw set tool, which sets the tooth offset properly.. Then you need to learn how to file the teeth properly so they are razor sharp.. Before you do any of that.. sand and polish the blade to a mirror like finish.. buff it out.. clean and shiny blade has less drag.. tooth offset ensures

[MBZ] OT Bowsaw Crosscut Bucksaw

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Today I ended up watching a lumberjack/woodcutter contest. It was pretty interesting. the axes and axemanship is way beyond my talents. But watching one man crosscut, 2 man crosscut, bucksaw and even bowsaw, I thought I should try the crosscut and bucksaw some year. The bowsaw is so easy

Re: [MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is only one thing. The general deterioration of pretty much every system indicates long term lack of service/maintenance. How many decades since it had an oil change? Interior shot, exterior shot, suspension gone, a/c not working, sunroof not right, windows not right, most body panels

Re: [MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Not even much good left for parts, except maybe M100 pahtz. Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes August 16, 2016 at 9:34 PM http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-6-9-/172308989334?forcerrptr=true=item281e6a8596:g:uJoAAOSwgZ1Xs8DV=172308989334

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
I love the SDLs! No problem EVER with rear seat leg room! A 126 SEL would serve as well, but not so economically. clay via Mercedes August 16, 2016 at 9:19 PM More cramped than a W124. While cooling my heels at stealer I took to seeing how well my back side

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The pressure bleed from on top was the only way I could get the 107 with ABS to behave. I never had any such problem with 126 cars with ABS, just gravity bleed from above. Keep the reservoir full enough so it won't run out. Simple. I made a pressure bleeder with a new $10 1 gallon sprayer

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Kollyphonya (Kollyfonia?) Sister Syndrome.In my younger days, I called it California Sister Syndrome. I have seem it so many times it should be in the APA handbook by now. The first time I saw it in person was about 40 yrs ago. My ffriends form Kolledge went back to farm with the

Re: [MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Stupid bumpers, ACC-II, body rot. Total loss. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > yep pretty much. > > > On 8/16/2016 9:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: > >> This car was professionally retrofitted with a traditional

Re: [MBZ] OT: What's wrong with Mrs Clinton?

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
All 3 of these: Satanic possession Advanced syphilitic dementia Frontal lobe injury which impairs cognitive skills and logical thought Leading to the need for the exorcism. There are times when you can see she is possessed in her eyes. I have seen this in person on other people. You DO

Re: [MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
yep pretty much. On 8/16/2016 9:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote: This car was professionally retrofitted with a traditional suspension. Is that ^ what you mean? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Ooh! That is a good one too! Please pass these ideas on to Harold! Somebody needs to start a fund (gofundxx?) to pay a shyster to defend him! I'd chip in $5. If 1000 or 2000 ppl across the country chipped in, it's probably make the city go hide. City schmucks DO NOT like being sued.

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
It looks GREAT! Everyone should have one intheir driveway! (or at least at their house) Just ask OK Don! Shhesh, Andrew, didn't you ever watch the Jetsons? Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes August 16, 2016 at 2:12 PM It's a fish out of water, very awkward

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Ha! I like that one! Get an Rx from a flying Doc.! Curt Raymond via Mercedes August 16, 2016 at 2:20 PM He could claim his medical issues that keep him from flying have given him PTSD and he needs the plane around as medical treatment... -Curt From: Floyd

Re: [MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
This car was professionally retrofitted with a traditional suspension. Is that ^ what you mean? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Amen! +1 We used to call it "Nosey neighbor." They were the ones that ALWAYS listened in on the party line, but never were available when a neighbor needed help. Mitch Haley via Mercedes August 16, 2016 at 2:08 PM

[MBZ] Now here is a guy who ruined a 6.9

2016-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-400-Series-6-9-/172308989334?forcerrptr=true=item281e6a8596:g:uJoAAOSwgZ1Xs8DV=172308989334 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options

Re: [MBZ] Tri-star Crack 'Ho

2016-08-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
Twelve step program for acquiring more Benz? clay > On Aug 16, 2016, at 7:21 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > You are a crack head. You have an addiction. You are among fellow travelers. > > --R (sent from my miniPad) > > On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:14 PM, clay

Re: [MBZ] Tri-star Crack 'Ho

2016-08-16 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
You are a crack head. You have an addiction. You are among fellow travelers. --R (sent from my miniPad) On Aug 16, 2016, at 9:14 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: I went to PnP to pick up a tail light for Mom, who backed into a Suburban. As I was driving in to the entry

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
More cramped than a W124. While cooling my heels at stealer I took to seeing how well my back side fit these things. GLA is made for dwarves. E class, as most of the cars, provide good legroom for driver, but you have to be pre-pubescent to fit well behind. GLE did have room enough to keep

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Fred, I will dig into the FSM and see what I can learn. - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:48 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Max. > > There is. > > Though I could not put my finger right on it. > > I said something about exercising the ABS

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Fred Moir via Mercedes
Max. There is. Though I could not put my finger right on it. I said something about exercising the ABS valves one at a time. I just use my speedi-Bleed. Fred Moir. Lynn MA. Diesel preferred. From: Mercedes on behalf of Max

[MBZ] Tri-star Crack 'Ho

2016-08-16 Thread clay via Mercedes
I went to PnP to pick up a tail light for Mom, who backed into a Suburban. As I was driving in to the entry lane, a pair of white MB sedans caught my eye. Builders sales lot… cars too nice to get stripped. The 95 S420 was a great 20 footer. Fellow working the lot was alone on his first day

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
I wonder if there is an equivalent operation to activate / bleed the ABS system on my 124 cars? -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 16, 2016 2:11:22 PM EDT, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote: >Again breaking in (see what I did there?) with car news.

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > Maybe it's a religious shrine. He could be an aeronautical pastor. Airplane-Lives-Matter mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Curt wrote: > You could take the train from Chi-Town to Boston. Train? Is there train ChiTown to Boston? I will see - nice. Boston seems nice to see by train. Hahvahd Square and Clik (no Clak). Tappet Brothers - NPR Cheech mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I can see M and her idiot husband sitting there in their tank tops smoking their Marlboro Lights and drinking a Bud Light or 3 and picking their tooth and telling the cops they dint do nuffin that Dad and Phil are causing trouble and whah ownt they mand there own damn bidness we dint do nuffin

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I wouldn't have to plant drugs over there, I can smell them anytime the wind blows from the west... A year or so ago my great uncle Fred died. My cousin Phil is executor of the will. Phil is a nice guy but not overly gifted in the thinking department. My dad was executor of great uncle Reg's

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Curt, Remember the Dallas episode where JR had drugs planted on an opponent and then arrested? Just a thought. I'm having trouble understanding some of the member opinions on this. Yes, we are free to do what we want, UNTIL it causes a problem for others. I have a neighbor who is a real

Re: [MBZ] OT: What's wrong with Mrs Clinton?

2016-08-16 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Exorcism anyone? Satanic possession? Advanced syphilitic dementia? Frontal lobe injury which impairs cognitive skills and logical thought? Pick any two of the above? On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 7:03 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well, after much research on the

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Maybe it's a religious shrine. He could be an aeronautical pastor. On Aug 16, 2016 3:21 PM, "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" wrote: > He could claim his medical issues that keep him from flying have given him > PTSD and he needs the plane around as medical treatment... > -Curt

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
If you just buy the cables, MUX and software on an external USB drive you can get it all for under $300. That’s what I paid about a year and a half ago on Alibaba. Consider that the MB stuff is not just the cables and software, it also includes the multiplexer that is necessary for the older

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
He could claim his medical issues that keep him from flying have given him PTSD and he needs the plane around as medical treatment... -Curt From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: Floyd Thursby Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I went out and played with the actuator a little just now. It starts moving at about 5"hg and is fully in at 15 which seems to be normal. I'm wondering if I've got an air leak somewhere. I pulled the air filter, it was a little dirty but what you'd expect after a year. Its got an oil change

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Harold needs to call it "art" and tell the neighbors it is guaranteed expression under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America and they can just STFU. --FT On 8/16/16 3:08 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's a fish out of water, very awkward looking. On Aug 16, 2016 3:09 PM, "Mitch Haley via Mercedes" wrote: > http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/everyone-just-shut-up-and- > let-this-man-keep-his-plane-i-1721399598 > > The Cessna ended up in the driveway after the owner,

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
http://flightclub.jalopnik.com/everyone-just-shut-up-and-let-this-man-keep-his-plane-i-1721399598 The Cessna ended up in the driveway after the owner, 69-year old Harold Guretzky had to give up his pilot’s license for health reasons. Rather than paying $150/month to store the plane, he removed

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 16, 2016 at 3:00 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > I *think* that the slow rise in turbo means its bad. Maybe your VNT isn't V any more? Stuck fins? Bad actuator? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Hi Kevin, You've got it exactly. People complain that the $250 cable is expensive but the software is free and I believe Dan spent way more money on the MB system.I'm running the software in Virtualbox on my Mac since it requires Windows. Seems to work just fine. I originally bought it for my

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
(after going over to Panther's house with plans to vandalize his enclosed car hauler) ... there was a lens staring directly back at me... I started trembling. Even now I get emotional talking about it... Don't like being monitored by security cameras on other peoples' property? Then stay away!

Re: [MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Curt, How does the VCDS work? Is this the setup that links to the car using a laptop, link cable and specific software? I read in some TDI forums that this setup is needed to power the fuel pumps to properly prime the system when changing the fuel filter on my 2014 Beetle TDI. Kevin in

[MBZ] OT: Golf brakes

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Again breaking in (see what I did there?) with car news. Some of you might remember some months ago I replaced the rear brake pads and calipers on the Golf I also free'd up the sticking caliper pins to make the calipers actually work. At the time I bled the brakes with my new power bleeder but

Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'd welcome that in their driveway, their trash-dump trailer is an eyesore. I'll see if I can surreptitiously snap a pic later today. That big white trailer indicates somebody doing work that needs to be hauled around. I've taken to thinking of the trailer as the "procreation palace" since the

[MBZ] Curt makes the news

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
http://jalopnik.com/giant-white-25-foot-trailer-parked-in-driveway-tears-ne-1785319419 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
You would think a law firm would pay for a Mercedes. In any case they are plenty roomy. Get a e250 bluetec. They get 40mpg, for real. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2016, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am going to see if it’s a possibility, but

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I drive Mama's ML occasionally, which the E class of the SUV line. At 6'4" I find the longitudinal legroom OK, and don't even run the seat all the way back, but the width of the well between the door and the center console is annoying as my right knee hits the console sorta at the top of it

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You could take the train from Chi-Town to Boston. Angie and I are doing the ALB-CHI run at the end of September for our anniversary. Its a 15 hour ride but you leave ALB at 7pm, have dinner on the train and sleep your way to CHI. Up early for breakfast and then a day of fun in CHI. -Curt

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:06:21 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote: > Rick wrote: > > Probably close to South Bend (after Craig moves)... > > Is there a Craig schedule? - Craig? No schedule as yet. I'm fighting bad allergies right now. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Rick wrote: > Probably close to South Bend (after Craig moves)... Is there a Craig schedule? - Craig? Luther and Tommy are near St. Louis. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > ...Rib Lake area... Rib Lake sounds like a nice gathering place. Mitch drives to Rick, Luther & mao are on the way. Almost as nice as ChowdahQ. No Midwest creatures to share drive to ChowdahQ? Really too late to chat it up, but... maybe plans are in flux for some of us?

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Max wrote: > The car is too fuzzy? Car has been coated with vaseline? I bet fuzzy makes mpg decrease. mao ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I am going to see if it’s a possibility, but I'm not sure how much the difference would be. I have not driven a recent E class. I wonder how roomy they are? Don Snook -Original Message- From: OK Don [mailto:okd...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 10:03 PM To: Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Max Bumpo inquires: > Midwest is a big place, where >would you propose such a >gathering? Probably close to South Bend (after Craig moves), or maybe the National Lakeshore Park here at the Southern tip of Lake Michigan. I really wouldn't expect much of a turnout. There is maybe 4-5 list members

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
Guccione-a-vision! On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The car is too fuzzy? Car has been coated with vaseline? > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
The car is too fuzzy? Car has been coated with vaseline? - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > What are the cosmetic issues, I wonder... > > ___

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Yes, but that would delay the trip by (flll in the blank) years. I still haven't had time to get my hands on that car... - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:29 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > You should drive the drop-top > > --FT > > >

Re: [MBZ] OT leasing a car

2016-08-16 Thread Donald Snook via Mercedes
I was thinking that too. If I could do a high mileage lease, then the residual value would be relatively low and I might be able to purchase it for my wife to drive. I think she likes the Altima, too. Don Snook -Original Message- From: Mitch Haley [mailto:mi...@mitchellhaley.com]

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Again, the color is the biggest selling point. On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I'll trade a better camera for it > > --FT > > > On 8/15/16 10:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >> >> Mercedes 1984 300 SD (cash or trade)

Re: [MBZ] Stealership slobbering goon

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Find a barn to stash it, then come back in 20 years to reap your profit$$.. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:28 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote: > You have no idea just how tempting that offer is > > Local club had show and shine yesterday. All the newer cars are ticking > bombs

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I'll trade a better camera for it --FT On 8/15/16 10:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Mercedes 1984 300 SD (cash or trade) http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5693362587.html via cPro for Craigslist iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android Sent

Re: [MBZ] Thanks - exhaust

2016-08-16 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
You should drive the drop-top --FT On 8/15/16 10:14 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Midwest is a big place, where would you propose such a gathering? Dan G. is in Chicago, I think Luther is nearby there as well. I need to get back to Wisconsin, Rib Lake area, see my mom and visit my

Re: [MBZ] Pirelli tires might be crap

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
FIrst rain after a drought makes the roads very slick. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It rained today and they did not seem > To have a problem > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 15, 2016, at 8:10 PM, clay via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] Why the U.S. "lost" the Vietnam War?

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Thanks for the link. On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 9:11 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > RB wrote: > > They came up with the idea of a database that would link small bookstores > > all over the place and then created the software and sold the idea to a > > whole lot of

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking SD

2016-08-16 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*T*hat's worth it for the color alone (mittelrot). What are the cosmetic issues, I wonder... On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Mercedes 1984 300 SD (cash or trade) > http://austin.craigslist.org/cto/5693362587.html > > via

Re: [MBZ] OT: What's wrong with Mrs Clinton?

2016-08-16 Thread rogerhga--- via Mercedes
Well, after much research on the internet, the list archives, and other credible sources, I have come to the conclusion that Hillary suffers from the "devil biting her big fat rump". I watched her squirm in a chair yesterday while Joe Biden spoke (although a Biden speech might equate to a devil

Re: [MBZ] 1982 300SD AC Question

2016-08-16 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 15, 2016 at 11:25 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > Fill it, and rejoice. Agreed. At least with R12 you can fill until the bubbles go away in the sight window. 120 psig is about 102 degrees F. If you were moving much heat to the condenser, it would be

Re: [MBZ] OT: What's wrong with Mrs Clinton?

2016-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
And that's where the electoral college should step up and restore sanity... -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 16, 2016 1:28:05 AM EDT, fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > >There is precedent - of sorts. > >A dead fellow won the senate election. Two weeks

Re: [MBZ] pimped low-rider S430 ONLY serious people with funds text the number above.

2016-08-16 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That auction site is dangerous Saw a couple really nice 124 gasser wagons with zero bids, do they really go for cheap cheap? Also saw a 124 cabriolet, same color & year as mine, heavy front end damage, minimum bid $1700. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On August 15, 2016