Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Katrina's devastation in Mississippi (and Alabama) got relatively little
coverage in the mainstream media.  Maybe the reporters didn't want to "rough
it" or maybe the editors didn't consider Alabama important.  
Maybe this clip (before and after shots) will help visualize that reality:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQ01Xyl1lkk
Scott

> -Original Message-
> From:  Curley McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 11:23 PM
> 
> Hmm, that was supposed to be NOLA mayor  not May...
> 
> 
> All of coastal MS was devastated.  Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Long
Beach,
> Gulfport,  Biloxi, Ocean Springs all were hit hard.  Bay, Pass and Biloxi
got it
> the worst.  Most of the beachfront for 1/2 mile north of Hwy 90 were wiped
> out.  The next half mile was heavily damaged.  In many cases that was up
to
> the railroad.  From the railroad to I-10 was tree damage, most roofs gone,
but
> mostly structurally intact.  N of I-10 was wind, tree and flooding damage.
> 
> #1 Daughter's house survived, but it is back about a mile and a few feet
> higher than the water came.  There were many trees down, one south
> window and 1 door broken out, and the roof was gone. Like her great
> grandpappy and great Great Great Grandpappy, she bought high ground.
> 
> I saw what was left of one casino barge resting inside what had been a 3
story
> motel.  That was most amazing.
> 
> 
> 
> > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  September
> > 14, 2016 at 10:02 PM Actually, folks east of NOLA the did the same
> > kind of self help after Katriba.  Places like Bay St. Louis, Pass
> > Christian, and even Gulfport (where Katrina actually struck) rolled up
> > their sleeves and started digging out.  Apparently, the NOLA strategy
> > was to hope the storm would miss them (which it did). ignore their own
> > emergency plans, and then cry for outside help (and blame others) when
> > the levees eventually broke.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:24 PM
> >>
> >> Hi Russ,
> >> ...
> >> I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time
> >> when
> > the
> >> NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This country
> >> (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to do
> >> what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd been
> >> along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
> >> ...
> >
> >
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> > Curley McLain  September 14, 2016 at 8:24
> > PM Hi Russ,
> >
> > Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high
> > enough to escape direct damage?
> >
> > I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time
> > when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This
> > country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to
> > do what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd
> > been  along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
> >
> >
> > Russ Williams via Mercedes  September
> > 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to
> > go rescue you and the Benz fleet.
> >
> > Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  September
> > 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here
> > late morning and is raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal
> > types walking two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > archer75--- via Mercedes  September 14,
> > 2016 at 3:22 PM Who posted a link that shows wind movement:
> > www.windyty.com ?
> > It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably
> > a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia
> > and South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several
> > directions.
> > The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which
> > are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
> > Gerry
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Just for the record.. I've never owned one... great looking vehicle...
would do well at the Ranch...

I'm a little short this week to throw that kind of pocket change at it..
Spendy little bugger, isn't it..

BTW... how does one qualify to have a "Compound"?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes <
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> -Curt wrote:
> > IIRC Grant has (had?) a couple...
>
> Yes.
> In addition to at least one vintage diesel bus?
> Q at Grant's compound?
> mao
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

I remember when a hurricane hit Biloxi during the late 1940s or early 1950s. It 
washed out nearly all of the beach sand and the state/federal government was 
slow about pumping it back in.
The Florida beaches near St. Pete and Tampa hoped to get the vacationers who 
usually went to Biloxi, but few showed up. I don't remember if Biloxi got hit 
again between then and now. 
~~~
Curley McLain wrote:
> Hmm, that was supposed to be NOLA mayor  not May...

> All of coastal MS was devastated.  Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Long Beach, 
> Gulfport,  Biloxi, Ocean Springs all were hit hard.  Bay, Pass and Biloxi got 
> it the worst.  Most of the beachfront for 1/2 mile north of Hwy 90 were wiped 
> out.  The next half mile was heavily damaged.  In many cases that was up to 
> the railroad.  From the railroad to I-10 was tree damage, most roofs gone, 
> but mostly structurally intact.  N of I-10 was wind, tree and flooding damage.
> 
> #1 Daughter's house survived, but it is back about a mile and a few feet 
> higher than the water came.  There were many trees down, one south window and 
> 1 door broken out, and the roof was gone. Like her great grandpappy and great 
> Great Great Grandpappy, she bought high ground.
> 
> I saw what was left of one casino barge resting inside what had been a 3 
> story motel.  That was most amazing.
> 
> 
> 
> > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> > September 14, 2016 at 10:02 PM
> > Actually, folks east of NOLA the did the same kind of self help after
> > Katriba.  Places like Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, and even Gulfport
> > (where Katrina actually struck) rolled up their sleeves and started digging
> > out.  Apparently, the NOLA strategy was to hope the storm would miss them
> > (which it did). ignore their own emergency plans, and then cry for outside
> > help (and blame others) when the levees eventually broke.
> >
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
> >> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:24 PM
> >>
> >> Hi Russ,
> >> ...
> >> I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time when
> > the
> >> NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This country (as
> >> you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to do
> >> what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd been
> >> along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
> >> ...
> >
> >
> >
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> > Curley McLain 
> > September 14, 2016 at 8:24 PM
> > Hi Russ,
> >
> > Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high 
> > enough to escape direct damage?
> >
> > I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time 
> > when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This 
> > country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to 
> > do what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd 
> > been  along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
> >
> >
> > Russ Williams via Mercedes 
> > September 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM
> > If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and 
> > the Benz fleet.
> >
> > Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> > September 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM
> > I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here late morning and is 
> > raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal types walking 
> > two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > archer75--- via Mercedes 
> > September 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM
> > Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
> > It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably 
> > a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia 
> > and South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several 
> > directions.
> > The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which 
> > are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
> > Gerry
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Had a drought for 2-3 months here in Michigan, then about 15" of rain in August,
went from mowing the lawn once a month whether it needed it or not to mowing
every five days and being besieged by mosquitoes. The skeeter-free summer was
fun while it lasted, but now I can't stand being outside with them after getting
used to them not existing. 

It's hard to complain about 15" of rain in a month when somebody else gets 30"
in a day. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hmm, that was supposed to be NOLA mayor  not May...


All of coastal MS was devastated.  Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, Long Beach, 
Gulfport,  Biloxi, Ocean Springs all were hit hard.  Bay, Pass and Biloxi got 
it the worst.  Most of the beachfront for 1/2 mile north of Hwy 90 were wiped 
out.  The next half mile was heavily damaged.  In many cases that was up to the 
railroad.  From the railroad to I-10 was tree damage, most roofs gone, but 
mostly structurally intact.  N of I-10 was wind, tree and flooding damage.

#1 Daughter's house survived, but it is back about a mile and a few feet higher 
than the water came.  There were many trees down, one south window and 1 door 
broken out, and the roof was gone. Like her great grandpappy and great Great 
Great Grandpappy, she bought high ground.

I saw what was left of one casino barge resting inside what had been a 3 story 
motel.  That was most amazing.




Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 10:02 PM
Actually, folks east of NOLA the did the same kind of self help after
Katriba.  Places like Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, and even Gulfport
(where Katrina actually struck) rolled up their sleeves and started digging
out.  Apparently, the NOLA strategy was to hope the storm would miss them
(which it did). ignore their own emergency plans, and then cry for outside
help (and blame others) when the levees eventually broke.


-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:24 PM

Hi Russ,
...
I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time when

the

NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This country (as
you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to do
what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd been
along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
...




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Curley McLain 
September 14, 2016 at 8:24 PM
Hi Russ,

Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high 
enough to escape direct damage?


I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time 
when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This 
country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to 
do what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd 
been  along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.



Russ Williams via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM
If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and 
the Benz fleet.


Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)






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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM
I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here late morning and is 
raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal types walking 
two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.


--FT




archer75--- via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM
Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably 
a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia 
and South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several 
directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which 
are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I kind of suspected you may have been high and stranded when you said 
you weren't flooded.  I didn't remember where you lived, but I knew you 
were N of NOLA.  Anyway, Glad you are OK.

Russ Williams via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 9:38 PM
I live in the Watson community which is just north of Denham Springs 
where the worst flooding
occurred. Our subdivision was High and soggy (that's what happens when 
you get 30" of rain in 24hrs)
Just down the highway that's the access to our subdivision folks had 
3' + in their homes.






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Curley McLain 
September 14, 2016 at 8:24 PM
Hi Russ,

Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high 
enough to escape direct damage?


I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time 
when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This 
country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to 
do what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd 
been  along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.



Russ Williams via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM
If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and 
the Benz fleet.


Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)






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Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 3:38 PM
I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here late morning and is 
raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal types walking 
two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.


--FT




archer75--- via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM
Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably 
a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia 
and South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several 
directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which 
are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Actually, folks east of NOLA the did the same kind of self help after
Katriba.  Places like Bay St. Louis, Pass Christian, and even Gulfport
(where Katrina actually struck) rolled up their sleeves and started digging
out.  Apparently, the NOLA strategy was to hope the storm would miss them
(which it did). ignore their own emergency plans, and then cry for outside
help (and blame others) when the levees eventually broke.

> -Original Message-
> From: Curley McLain via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:24 PM
> 
> Hi Russ,
> ...
> I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time when
the
> NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This country (as
> you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to do
> what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd been
> along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.
> ...



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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

I live in the Watson community which is just north of Denham Springs 
where the worst flooding
occurred. Our subdivision was High and soggy (that's what happens when 
you get 30" of rain in 24hrs)
Just down the highway that's the access to our subdivision folks had 3' 
+ in their homes.


On Wed,9/14/16 20:24, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:

Hi Russ,

Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high 
enough to escape direct damage?


I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time 
when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This 
country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to 
do what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd 
been  along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.



Russ Williams via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM
If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and 
the Benz fleet.


Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)




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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

D.C. area is rapidly heading into a drought as well

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:57 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wish we could get some of that rain, it's dry dry dry here...
>
> Curt
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   So that storm that is pushing air and
> rain around my vast estate is
> supposed to sit out there offshore, like right offshore directly off the
> beach down the road, for the next 2 or 3 days, doing whatever it is
> going to do.
>
> I do like that site, will have to bookmark it.
>
> --R
>
>
> On 9/14/16 8:52 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> > Thanks. It's info like this, both entertaining and practical, that makes
> this website worthwhile.
> > Gerry
> >
> > OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> >> That was me - I use the "cloud base" function a lot for flight planning
> -
> >> have you pushed the play button to see the changes every three hours?
> >> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>> Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
> >>> It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably
> a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and
> >>> South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several
> directions.
> >>> The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which
> are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
> >>> Gerry
> >>>
> >>>
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> of
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> >>
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> who
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Wish we could get some of that rain, it's dry dry dry here...

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 9:00 PM, Floyd Thursby via 
Mercedes wrote:   So that storm that is pushing air and 
rain around my vast estate is 
supposed to sit out there offshore, like right offshore directly off the 
beach down the road, for the next 2 or 3 days, doing whatever it is 
going to do.

I do like that site, will have to bookmark it.

--R


On 9/14/16 8:52 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> Thanks. It's info like this, both entertaining and practical, that makes this 
> website worthwhile.
> Gerry
>
> OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
>> That was me - I use the "cloud base" function a lot for flight planning -
>> have you pushed the play button to see the changes every three hours?
>> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
>>> It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a 
>>> low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and
>>> South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
>>> The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are 
>>> easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
>>> Gerry
>>>
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>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>>
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>>
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hope yer island don't float away...  If it does, I'll take your 
MBs...and give em a good home.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 8:00 PM
So that storm that is pushing air and rain around my vast estate is 
supposed to sit out there offshore, like right offshore directly off 
the beach down the road, for the next 2 or 3 days, doing whatever it 
is going to do.


I do like that site, will have to bookmark it.

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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hi Russ,

Glad you are ok.  Was it mostly north of you or were you just high 
enough to escape direct damage?


I am so glad this time the Cajun Navy went to work, unlike last time 
when the NOLA may sat on his hands and did nothing but complain.  This 
country (as you know) was made great buy citizens banding together to do 
what needs done.  That is exactly what the Cajun Navy is.   If I'd been  
along the gulf coast, I'd have been there to join the navy.



Russ Williams via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 6:26 PM
If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and 
the Benz fleet.


Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)




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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So that storm that is pushing air and rain around my vast estate is 
supposed to sit out there offshore, like right offshore directly off the 
beach down the road, for the next 2 or 3 days, doing whatever it is 
going to do.


I do like that site, will have to bookmark it.

--R


On 9/14/16 8:52 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks. It's info like this, both entertaining and practical, that makes this 
website worthwhile.
Gerry

OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

That was me - I use the "cloud base" function a lot for flight planning -
have you pushed the play button to see the changes every three hours?
On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a low speed) 
"cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and
South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are 
easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
Gerry


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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Thanks. It's info like this, both entertaining and practical, that makes this 
website worthwhile.
Gerry

OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> That was me - I use the "cloud base" function a lot for flight planning -

> have you pushed the play button to see the changes every three hours?
> On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
> > It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a 
> > low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and
> > South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
> > The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are 
> > easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
> > Gerry
> >
> >
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> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

If you need help I can summon the "Cajun Navy" to go rescue you and the 
Benz fleet.


Russ W. (Who survived The Great Flood of '16 with no damage)


On Wed,9/14/16 15:38, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here late morning and is 
raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal types walking 
two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.


--FT


On 9/14/16 4:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows 
(probably a low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border 
between Georgia and South Carolina; which are obviously caused by 
wind from several directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which 
are easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.

Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We have to for dual rear wheels but not for 1 ton specifically. Gotta have a 
DOT inspection and medical too...
-Curt

  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL
   
On 14/09/2016 2:51 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote:
> Yes, the Excursion is built off the F-350 Super Duty chassis, and as such
> is a thoroughly ridiculous vehicle. However, the first two model years of
> Excursion *do* have the International Harvester Diesel available in them.
>

Do you folks have to get an annual safety done on 1 ton and up lie we do?
I would think that would be a bit of a pain.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That was me - I use the "cloud base" function a lot for flight planning -
have you pushed the play button to see the changes every three hours?

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 3:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
> It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a
> low speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and
> South Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
> The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are
> easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
> Gerry
>
>
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for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Just about every Expedition, and some F-150s of a certain age have 
squeaking front suspensions, ball joints I am guessing.  Most noticeable 
when turning.


--R


On 9/14/16 3:49 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote:

The Expedition is a Ford F-150 Wagon, so all quirks and provisos that apply
to the F-150 of that year also apply to the Expedition. That being said,
there is a reason that the Ford F-150 has been the number one truck in
America for ... decades really. Regular maintenance to an F-150 /
Expedition means it runs a long time. They are strong, able, and versatile.

But, as Rick says, things like the Spark Plug removal is an issue. However,
my wife drives a Durango with a Hemi. 2 plugs per cylinder, so 16 plugs
overall, that things is ridiculous so it is a problem, but there are worse.
Just don't leave the plugs in for 100K miles, no matter what the plug
manufacturer or Ford might tell you.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Barrister Snook inquires:


Anybody have experience with one of these or something like it. It has

the 5.4L that Ford used in TONS of vehicles.

Google Ford 5.4 Spark Plug removal.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-Curt wrote:
> IIRC Grant has (had?) a couple...

Yes.
In addition to at least one vintage diesel bus?
Q at Grant's compound?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I am in the middle of it.  Started raining here late morning and is 
raining hard, not much wind.  I saw several animal types walking 
two-by-two up toward the marina a little while ago.


--FT


On 9/14/16 4:22 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ?
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a low speed) 
"cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and South Carolina; 
which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are 
easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
Gerry


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[MBZ] Wind and Weather Patterns

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Who posted a link that shows wind movement: www.windyty.com ? 
It's an interesting website. For example, currently it shows (probably a low 
speed) "cyclone" on the east coast at the border between Georgia and South 
Carolina; which are obviously caused by wind from several directions.
The website also shows other aspects of moving weather patterns which are 
easier to understand than the usual static weather bureau notation.
Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 14/09/2016 2:51 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes wrote:

Yes, the Excursion is built off the F-350 Super Duty chassis, and as such
is a thoroughly ridiculous vehicle. However, the first two model years of
Excursion *do* have the International Harvester Diesel available in them.



Do you folks have to get an annual safety done on 1 ton and up lie we do?
I would think that would be a bit of a pain.

RB

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Current revision of Durango is really just a car with tall seating. For a 
Chrysler that can go offroad you need a Jeep or a RAM.
That said my parents have a Cherokee which is really a car but its surprisingly 
good offroad...
-Curt

  From: Ed Booher via Mercedes 
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 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:54 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL
   
On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I definitely don't think of an Expedition EL as a Mommy Wagon.  It's a
> beast.  The Mommy wagons I see around here are the Toyota Sienna Minivan,
> the Honda Odyssey Minivan and the Nissan Quest minivan.  Most of the time
> when I see a Suburban or an Expedition, it has one person in it and no
> kids.  One of the private schools (for the rich kids) is not too far from
> my house and if I drive past it on the way to work, the line of vehicles
> dropping little Jayden, Aiden, Cayden, and Jackson, Jaxson, and Jack are
> all Honda Odysseys.  Now, if I drive by the Country Club where the parents
> are even richer and the kids are older, there are lots of Escalades and
> Lexus RX.
>

My wife's "mommy wagon" is an `06 Hemi Durango, so the Expedition would be
a great fit for her. She isn't really a mini-van type of person.
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

On Tue, Sep 13, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I definitely don't think of an Expedition EL as a Mommy Wagon.  It's a
> beast.  The Mommy wagons I see around here are the Toyota Sienna Minivan,
> the Honda Odyssey Minivan and the Nissan Quest minivan.  Most of the time
> when I see a Suburban or an Expedition, it has one person in it and no
> kids.  One of the private schools (for the rich kids) is not too far from
> my house and if I drive past it on the way to work, the line of vehicles
> dropping little Jayden, Aiden, Cayden, and Jackson, Jaxson, and Jack are
> all Honda Odysseys.   Now, if I drive by the Country Club where the parents
> are even richer and the kids are older, there are lots of Escalades and
> Lexus RX.
>

My wife's "mommy wagon" is an `06 Hemi Durango, so the Expedition would be
a great fit for her. She isn't really a mini-van type of person.
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Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

IIRC Grant has (had?) a couple...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into
   
Dan wrote:
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5781679040.html

Looks like a GD I saw posted in Indianapolis.  Nice, too good to be
true.  Utah plates seems nice.  Pictures look to be from UT, not FL?
Otherwise, yes - Kleb needs this.  Or, Grant could use this to travel
his vast estate to get from his bedroom to the mailbox?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Oh man, that thing is cool. I'd love to have one of those.
Actually I'd just like to have the money to have one of those...
-Curt

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 Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:19 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into
   
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5781679040.html

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Yes, the Excursion is built off the F-350 Super Duty chassis, and as such
is a thoroughly ridiculous vehicle. However, the first two model years of
Excursion *do* have the International Harvester Diesel available in them.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 12:03 AM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

> > Donald wrote:
>
> > I definitely don't think of an Expedition EL as a Mommy Wagon.
>
> Me either.
>
> > It's a beast.
>
> I beg to differ.  The _Excursion_ is a beast.  The Expedition is just
> big.
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of 240d's

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig wrote:
> So, for those of us who don't do facebook, what was it?

Me, now you - no facebook - what is your problem?
Me? - I have zero capacity to watch pictures of people hourly when I
log in.  I never remain logged in to anything.  Nor do I do SmartPhone
or cell phone.  That is luxury beyond food that is not necessary.
Possum Living seems good.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvn79E40VSc
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

The Expedition is a Ford F-150 Wagon, so all quirks and provisos that apply
to the F-150 of that year also apply to the Expedition. That being said,
there is a reason that the Ford F-150 has been the number one truck in
America for ... decades really. Regular maintenance to an F-150 /
Expedition means it runs a long time. They are strong, able, and versatile.

But, as Rick says, things like the Spark Plug removal is an issue. However,
my wife drives a Durango with a Hemi. 2 plugs per cylinder, so 16 plugs
overall, that things is ridiculous so it is a problem, but there are worse.
Just don't leave the plugs in for 100K miles, no matter what the plug
manufacturer or Ford might tell you.

On Sat, Sep 10, 2016 at 5:30 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Barrister Snook inquires:
>
> >Anybody have experience with one of these or something like it. It has
> the 5.4L that Ford used in TONS of vehicles.
>
> Google Ford 5.4 Spark Plug removal.
>
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

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Dan wrote:
> http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5781679040.html

Looks like a GD I saw posted in Indianapolis.  Nice, too good to be
true.  Utah plates seems nice.  Pictures look to be from UT, not FL?
Otherwise, yes - Kleb needs this.  Or, Grant could use this to travel
his vast estate to get from his bedroom to the mailbox?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of 240d's

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On Wed, 14 Sep 2016 09:09:54 -0700 Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Saw it..

So, for those of us who don't do facebook, what was it?


Craig


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> > encounter with a 240D driver this morning
> >
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 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of 240d's

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Bob R wrote:
> Saw it..

Give link - somebody?
FB... don't do me.
... or, is that banned ...
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody need a 1994 320TE?

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clay wrote:
> Will have them up on a CL listing this evening.  Then pop it on FleaBay

Please provide link.
News line heard today - 200k flood damage cars in US, most in FL, TX,
LA, PA.  13k in IL
How many flood damage in WA?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Admin spam filters

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Thnks.

W

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To: 
Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:35 AM
Subject: [MBZ] Admin spam filters


The host has made adjustments so you should not get the bounced messages 
from the spam filters. If anybody does send me an email.


Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] ?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

Yep; twice in a row.  Thanks again.

W

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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?



WOW!   It seems to actually work!  'Hope it holds up.  Thnks.

W
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Cc: "WILTON" 
Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 3:24 PM
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Re: [MBZ] ?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

WOW!   It seems to actually work!  'Hope it holds up.  Thnks.

W
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Re: [MBZ] ?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

?

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] ?

[WILTON via Mercedes]

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[MBZ] Something for Kaleb to put that 240D crate engine into

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ctd/5781679040.html

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

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Man, that Curley guy is poison

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> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

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It came through, twice...
-Curt

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> Plenty of room.  nuthin in OK but a few oel wells, and a couple rows of
> old MBs.  All ya need is somethin that can land in a field.  Stearmans,
> Spitfires, Hurricanes and DC3 all did that well.
>
>> Jon Agne via Mercedes
>> September 9, 2016 at 6:18 PM
>> It made a low pass and could not find adequate room for a landing….
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[MBZ] Fwd: Delivery Status Notification (Delay)

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Plenty of room.  nuthin in OK but a few oel wells, and a couple rows of
old MBs.  All ya need is somethin that can land in a field.  Stearmans,
Spitfires, Hurricanes and DC3 all did that well.


Jon Agne via Mercedes
September 9, 2016 at 6:18 PM
It made a low pass and could not find adequate room for a landing….





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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 16:46:06 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> NPR (of all sources) said the extra emissions from the cheater diesels
> over the life of all the cars will be less than the output of one coal
> fired power plant. Basically a drop in the bucket... -Curt

And think how they compare to a volcano or a forest fire!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of 240d's

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Saw it..

Bob R
On Sep 14, 2016 8:14 AM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If you are on Facebook my wife posted a video on my page of her encounter
> with a 240D driver this morning
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[clay via Mercedes]

Paul Allen, of micro$oft fame has a few

clay

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a guy in Eagle River WI who reportedly refurbs Migs.  I saw him fly 
> one of em there.  So, apparently he is good enough that he risks his own neck 
> before he risks the customer's necks.   I can probably get somebody to find 
> contact info if ya want, or you can call the ER airport and get same.
> 
>> G Mann via Mercedes 
>> September 14, 2016 at 10:00 AM
>> Haha.. I hope you understand what "MiG" stands for... "Money in Guns"...
>> take all the letters in the word AIRPLANE, move them around any way you
>> want, and it will never spell CHEAP...
>> 
>> If you thought putting a Mercedes into roadworthy status was a challenge..
>> try putting a Russian airplane back together with everything written in
>>  well.. Russian.. and taken apart in  well.. Russia... by folks who
>> really hated ... well.. Russians.. then go fly in it..
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Did you see the episode where Clarkson brings home a jet fighter on a 
flatbed and drops it in his front yard?  Mama was not particularly 
amused, but seemed used to his, um, eccentricities.


I would do that with a MiG, put it out by the road.  There is this woman 
Annie Caroline who lives here on this island, whose husband was a pilot 
of some sort at some time in his life, maybe retired airline or 
something.  I think he died a few years ago and she moved into town 
maybe, she had a horse farm/stable/boarding place.  She is pretty 
whack.  Anyway I went over to their house one day for something, it's 
back in the woods off the road pretty far, there was a D-18 on a 
pedestal at their front gate.  I so wanted that thing... it was totally 
awesome.


--FT


On 9/14/16 11:00 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Haha.. I hope you understand what "MiG" stands for... "Money in Guns"...
take all the letters in the word AIRPLANE, move them around any way you
want, and it will never spell CHEAP...

If you thought putting a Mercedes into roadworthy status was a challenge..
try putting a Russian airplane back together with everything written in
 well.. Russian.. and taken apart in  well.. Russia... by folks who
really hated ... well.. Russians.. then go fly in it..

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I could use wunnathem MiGs

--FT



On 9/14/16 12:34 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:


Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?

I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which he
bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his
friends
and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so
he
bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
family here said.. stop now.. he did.

As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives every
indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.

The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know..
Brilliant
yet a bit eccentric..

Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some pics
ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.

I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed condition"
.. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...

Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine"
..
"ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so far..
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[MBZ] Speaking of 240d's

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If you are on Facebook my wife posted a video on my page of her encounter with 
a 240D driver this morning 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I think Harvard is her second choice.  She is looking at Baylor if she goes 
medicine route and Texas (UT) if she decides on law.  She's 16, so things 
change. :) 


Donald H. Snook 



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Sent: Wednesday, September 14, 2016 9:49 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

Don I see an intervention coming here.  NOT Hahvahd

--FT


On 9/13/16 4:01 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
> She is more interested in debate and getting college credit in her classes 
> and going to Harvard.

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Re: [MBZ] Anybody need a 1994 320TE?

[clay via Mercedes]

Will have them up on a CL listing this evening.  Then pop it on FleaBay

clay

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 6:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Pictures?
> 
> Sent from my iPad
> 
>> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:06 AM, clay via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My friend is trying to unload a 1994 TE.  Always serviced by my mechanic.  
>> Just got a good detailing, so it looks nice.  Glass is good, AC works, third 
>> row seats, I saw no rips or tears, all lights complete with no damage.  
>> wagon has 210k miles with some minor clear coat wear (probably will buff out 
>> if Martha did it).  Graphite black, not 040 color with black interior.  The 
>> pop up part of sunroof is wonky, the antenna does not behave, has an 
>> aftermarket CD player.
>> 
>> He is selling this one because he has another, but it is green and his wife 
>> likes the green car more than the black one.
>> 
>> He would be happy to let it go FAST for $3600
>> 
>> 
>> clay 
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 
>> retired models-
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There is a guy in Eagle River WI who reportedly refurbs Migs.  I saw him 
fly one of em there.  So, apparently he is good enough that he risks his 
own neck before he risks the customer's necks.   I can probably get 
somebody to find contact info if ya want, or you can call the ER airport 
and get same.



G Mann via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 10:00 AM
Haha.. I hope you understand what "MiG" stands for... "Money in Guns"...
take all the letters in the word AIRPLANE, move them around any way you
want, and it will never spell CHEAP...

If you thought putting a Mercedes into roadworthy status was a challenge..
try putting a Russian airplane back together with everything written in
 well.. Russian.. and taken apart in  well.. Russia... by 
folks who

really hated ... well.. Russians.. then go fly in it..



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Re: [MBZ] what color is your daily driver?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Kaleb.   Whatcha gonna send 'im?


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
September 14, 2016 at 9:49 AM
Perhaps we need a contest - who owns the largest fleet? Winner gets a used
part from my inventory.



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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Kaleb, Thanks for your interest.  It will be a few days while I get the
whole lot inventoried before I can pull the Mercedes engine out of the
crate, take pics and fill in the details as much as possible. From what I
can see so far.. sweet and clean, ASAP I'll get more details and pics.



On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am interested, send me the details when you have them
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 13, 2016, at 11:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
> > engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?
> >
> > I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
> > with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which
> he
> > bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his
> friends
> > and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so
> he
> > bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
> > like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
> > family here said.. stop now.. he did.
> >
> > As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
> > with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
> > with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
> > which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
> > else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives
> every
> > indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
> > are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.
> >
> > The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
> > fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know..
> Brilliant
> > yet a bit eccentric..
> >
> > Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some
> pics
> > ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.
> >
> > I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
> > valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed
> condition"
> > .. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...
> >
> > Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
> > determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine"
> ..
> > "ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so
> far..
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Haha.. I hope you understand what "MiG" stands for... "Money in Guns"...
take all the letters in the word AIRPLANE, move them around any way you
want, and it will never spell CHEAP...

If you thought putting a Mercedes into roadworthy status was a challenge..
try putting a Russian airplane back together with everything written in
 well.. Russian.. and taken apart in  well.. Russia... by folks who
really hated ... well.. Russians.. then go fly in it..

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I could use wunnathem MiGs
>
> --FT
>
>
>
> On 9/14/16 12:34 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
>> engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?
>>
>> I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
>> with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which he
>> bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his
>> friends
>> and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so
>> he
>> bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
>> like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
>> family here said.. stop now.. he did.
>>
>> As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
>> with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
>> with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
>> which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
>> else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives every
>> indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
>> are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.
>>
>> The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
>> fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know..
>> Brilliant
>> yet a bit eccentric..
>>
>> Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some pics
>> ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.
>>
>> I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
>> valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed condition"
>> .. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...
>>
>> Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
>> determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine"
>> ..
>> "ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so far..
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

What about the MiGs?

--FT


On 9/14/16 10:54 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb, Thanks for your interest.  It will be a few days while I get the
whole lot inventoried before I can pull the Mercedes engine out of the
crate, take pics and fill in the details as much as possible. From what I
can see so far.. sweet and clean, ASAP I'll get more details and pics.



On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 5:01 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


I am interested, send me the details when you have them

Sent from my iPhone


On Sep 13, 2016, at 11:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 

wrote:

Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?

I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which

he

bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his

friends

and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so

he

bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
family here said.. stop now.. he did.

As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives

every

indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.

The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know..

Brilliant

yet a bit eccentric..

Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some

pics

ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.

I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed

condition"

.. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...

Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine"

..

"ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so

far..

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Re: [MBZ] what color is your daily driver?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

79 300TD "Brunnhilde" (I think it needs to cross the rainbow bridge 
soon, at least the corporal body, the other bits are OK) punkin orange

84 300SD Ivory "Mamabenz"
84 300SD Gold
12 ML350 Blueytechie black
76 Cad Eldo convert "Elwood" black
98 Cad Deville dk blue
96 Chebby Sliverado dk blue
00 Chebby Suburban gray
oh and there's a 72 Datsun 510 wagon in a storage bin no one is supposed 
to know about


ohshitbetternotletmamaseethatlistallinoneplace

--FT



On 9/14/16 10:49 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Perhaps we need a contest - who owns the largest fleet?  Winner gets a used
part from my inventory.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Red -2005 Dodge Grand Caravan
Dark Blue - 1984 300D
Champagne - 1985 300D
Maroon - 1982 300D
Carmine Red - 1978 MGB

Michael E. Esh



On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <

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2012 Toyota Sienna Van 21Kmi Blizzard Pearl
2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible, 15Kmi, Moon Rock Silver Metallic(can’t

describe the color, check out some pictures)

Kevin in Hillsboro, OR

On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

I came back to my office this afternoon after a trip to the bank.

I counted 29 vehicles in the parking lot behind the building and noted

that 23 of the 29 were black, grey or silver.

There were a couple of dark red to burgundy and a couple of green - one

dark olive and the other acqua for lack of a better choice. I think 1 white
one.

Cannot recall the last vehicle - might have been a 2nd white one.

Do not know if this is indicative of vehicles as a whole or not.

If so, we have become a drab bunch.

My car was included in the grey bunch as I am driving the Honda Civic I

bought from my mother. However, I have the dark red Mercedes and the ruby
red F150 at home and my wife's car is blue but on the blue-grey side of
blue. If I had purchased the Honda Civic new, it would not have been the
slate grey color.

RB


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Re: [MBZ] what color is your daily driver?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Perhaps we need a contest - who owns the largest fleet?  Winner gets a used
part from my inventory.

On Wed, Sep 14, 2016 at 2:40 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Red -2005 Dodge Grand Caravan
> Dark Blue - 1984 300D
> Champagne - 1985 300D
> Maroon - 1982 300D
> Carmine Red - 1978 MGB
>
> Michael E. Esh
>
>
> > On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 2012 Toyota Sienna Van 21Kmi Blizzard Pearl
> > 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible, 15Kmi, Moon Rock Silver Metallic(can’t
> describe the color, check out some pictures)
> > Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> >> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I came back to my office this afternoon after a trip to the bank.
> >>
> >> I counted 29 vehicles in the parking lot behind the building and noted
> that 23 of the 29 were black, grey or silver.
> >>
> >> There were a couple of dark red to burgundy and a couple of green - one
> dark olive and the other acqua for lack of a better choice. I think 1 white
> one.
> >>
> >> Cannot recall the last vehicle - might have been a 2nd white one.
> >>
> >> Do not know if this is indicative of vehicles as a whole or not.
> >>
> >> If so, we have become a drab bunch.
> >>
> >> My car was included in the grey bunch as I am driving the Honda Civic I
> bought from my mother. However, I have the dark red Mercedes and the ruby
> red F150 at home and my wife's car is blue but on the blue-grey side of
> blue. If I had purchased the Honda Civic new, it would not have been the
> slate grey color.
> >>
> >> RB
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Don I see an intervention coming here.  NOT Hahvahd

--FT


On 9/13/16 4:01 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

She is more interested in debate and getting college credit in her classes and 
going to Harvard.


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Re: [MBZ] Anybody need a 1994 320TE?

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I can appreciate the added value of service records and we all know a cheap MB 
can be a very expensive car.  But, isn't $3600 pretty high for this? Especially 
considering the mileage? 

Don Snook  

-Original Message-
From: clay [mailto:redgh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] Anybody need a 1994 320TE?

My friend is trying to unload a 1994 TE.  Always serviced by my mechanic.  Just 
got a good detailing, so it looks nice.  Glass is good, AC works, third row 
seats, I saw no rips or tears, all lights complete with no damage.  wagon has 
210k miles with some minor clear coat wear (probably will buff out if Martha 
did it).  Graphite black, not 040 color with black interior.  The pop up part 
of sunroof is wonky, the antenna does not behave, has an aftermarket CD player.

He is selling this one because he has another, but it is green and his wife 
likes the green car more than the black one.

He would be happy to let it go FAST for $3600


clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - 
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Re: [MBZ] Chowda Q IX 2016 pics

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I see a far truck in this 
http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/media/ChowdaQ%20IX%202016/DSC_0693_zps5mwke4cr.jpg.html 
piccie.  That wasn't a Ferrari gathering!


--FT


On 9/13/16 3:12 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The long awaited ChowdaQ 2016 pics are 
up:http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%20IX%202016?sort=3=1
it should allow you to see a sub folder, if not you can find 
more:http://s843.photobucket.com/user/curtludwig/library/ChowdaQ%20IX%202016/Sams%20pictures?sort=3=1

We had two photographers, Angie took the shots in the first link, John (Sam) 
Peterson did the second. I'll add some labels to some of the shots as time 
allows.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

You are right.  By comparison to the Excursion, the Expedition and even the 
Suburban are practically reasonable.  

I think there is a business opportunity for someone with the money and time to 
dedicate to it.  There is a huge market for the Excursion.  There is a serious 
loyal fanbase. The folks who want them pay a premium price because they are so 
heavy duty.  When my stepdaughter was into horses and competed at events, the 
parking lots were full of Excursions towing HUGE horse trailers.  I talked to a 
few folks about them.  They liked the V10 for towing the room and the 
sturdiness of the frame.  The V10s with low miles sell well.  But, the big 
money was for the diesels.  I wonder if there is an opportunity for buying up 
used Excursions and fixing them and reselling them for premium prices. It would 
be similar to the guy who does the same thing with the Jeep Grand Wagoneers.   
If I had the time, money and mechanical expertise, I would really consider it.  

A friend of mine drives an Excursion.  It is his daily driver.  I still don't 
understand that.  He doesn't even tow anything.   

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: fmiser [mailto:fmi...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:04 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

> Donald wrote:

> I definitely don't think of an Expedition EL as a Mommy Wagon.

Me either.

> It's a beast.

I beg to differ.  The _Excursion_ is a beast.  The Expedition is just big.



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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

I remember years ago, the conventional wisdom was if the vehicle has a lot of 
miles and the transmission has never been serviced, then its best to leave it 
alone.  Is that still true with much more modern transmissions?  The only 
transmission issue I have ever had was with my 1981 Oldsmobile 98.  But, it had 
the 2004r transmission which was notorious for failure at 100,000 miles.  It 
had 135,000 when it failed.  Of all the other cars I have had, I have never had 
a transmission problem (knocking on wood!).  But, I have done transmission 
services on many on many of them to try to be pro-active about it.  Except of 
course, the BMW's I have had because apparently it is a sealed transmission and 
to service it requires a big ordeal. 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Peter Hertzing [mailto:phertz...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 6:20 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

Not necessarily issues...  But at near 200k in any full size truck your looking 
at tranny replacement unless someone has been fastidious with fluid changes.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2016, at 10:11 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Mitch wrote:  "100,000 mile spark plugs that want to take the threads with 
> them when you finally remove them?
> Or was that a different engine?"
> 
> Rick wrote:
> 
> "Google Ford 5.4 Spark Plug removal."
> 
> Peter wrote:
> 
> "Check the tranny.  If it hasn't been rebuilt it's due."
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.  I knew about the ignition coil issues on the 5.4L.  
> But, I didn't know about seized plugs.  It seems like just about all vehicles 
> with ignition coils will need them replaced at some point at least once they 
> get enough miles on them.  My thinking on it is it is a trade off compared 
> with replacing plugs, wires, distributor caps, etc. like we all used to have 
> to do every 15-30,000 miles on older cars.   I am wondering how to check 
> this.  I guess I could bring some tools and try to try to remove one of the 
> plugs.  And/or see if the seller has service records showing the plugs were 
> replaced already.  Hopefully with 180K they are not original.  Even if they 
> were changed at 100,000 miles, they would need to be done soon.  But, that's 
> not a huge issue.Now, Peter's warning about the transmission has me 
> concerned.  I didn't know these had transmission issues.
> 
> I had a 2001 Expedition previously and it was a great vehicle.  In fact, my 
> wife pretty much claimed it when I brought it home.  It had almost 180,000 
> miles on it when I sold it.  I never had any problems with it, except I had 
> to replace the fuel pump.   I learned later the fuel pump was a weakness on 
> these vehicles and my wife was bad about running it pretty low.
> 
> Don Snook
> 2001 BMW 740iL M Sport 131K miles (for sale soon)
> 2000 BMW 740iL 227K
> 1992 Ford F-150 148K (possibly for sale soon)
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] VW

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Is that a merkin or chinee CFPP?

--FT


On 9/13/16 12:46 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

NPR (of all sources) said the extra emissions from the cheater diesels over the 
life of all the cars will be less than the output of one coal fired power 
plant. Basically a drop in the bucket...
-Curt

   From: Mountain Man via Mercedes 
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Cc: Mountain Man 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:45 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW

Gerry wrote:

VW Dieselgate engineer sings like a canary...

Very interesting story - thanks!

Is there any ability to quantify the amount of emissions bad stuff
that went in to our atmosphere?  That is, emissions outside the
state/federal requirements?  Maybe the defeat only allowed emissions
equal to one car in a hundred cars, i.e. indecipherable.

Perhaps instead of fines and punishment, the VW Dieselgate design team
should be required to sing as federal employees for their punishment.
Their punishment would be to innovate using their defeat mechanism
design skills that defeated the regulations to see other defeat
mechanisms that are probably being used by other companies, i.e. Get
Smart - employ innovation instead of trying to punish/control
multi-national behemoths.  Control of multi-national behemoths
requires a greater innovation than bureaucracy can ever muster - we
the people still rule!
mao

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My boy had the Benz dizzel wagon, then the girl child drove it! I don't 
think either one of them did THAT sort of thing in it, but I don't want 
to know either.


--R


On 9/13/16 12:44 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Did you ride around in your girlfriend's wagon?
Don't give a son a wagon, its not so bad for a daughter to have...
-Curt

   From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Randy Bennell 
  Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2016 11:20 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2007 Ford Expedition EL

You do realize that back seat shenanigans are easier in a wagon?


RB


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Re: [MBZ] Bikers wuz: VW

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's deplorable

--FT


On 9/14/16 10:17 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Last weekend a biker was killed by an 18 yr old illegal alien driver 
in Des moines. 
http://whotv.com/2016/09/13/police-release-name-of-critically-injured-motorcyclist/


The previous week, an 18 yr old illegal alien was driving too fast and 
caused an accident which killed a 12 yr old girl who was a passenger 
in another vehicle.  Her grandfather is still in the hospital in rough 
condition.


http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/lea-phann-fernando-lopez-aguilar-illegal-immigrant-immigration-undocumented-alien-obama-amnesty-executive-order-des-moines-iowa-chuck-grassley-go-fund-me/ 



This one has the local citizenry cranked up.

Citizens being killed by illegal aliens is a much bigger issue to me 
than Dissel smoke, whether from a peecup or a VW.  Nobody is dying 
from Dissel smoke.



dan--- via Mercedes 
September 13, 2016 at 2:39 PM
If it’s any consolation there are lawmakers in a number of states 
attempting to pass laws to allow fining or ticketing these idiots 
when they do this. Some pretty interesting stories about how they 
have injured bikers and others with this stupidity.


Dan





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Re: [MBZ] mac/*nix question

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Yeah, I found the instal package for xcode in the optional stuff of the 
install USB drive.  Right now it is in the make stage.  Also found I 
have to install rosetta as an optional.  did that too.



Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
September 12, 2016 at 9:46 PM
You have to install the Development tools, they're optional.
Or no, you _don't_ have a C compiler.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Bikers wuz: VW

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Last weekend a biker was killed by an 18 yr old illegal alien driver in 
Des moines.   
http://whotv.com/2016/09/13/police-release-name-of-critically-injured-motorcyclist/


The previous week, an 18 yr old illegal alien was driving too fast and 
caused an accident which killed a 12 yr old girl who was a passenger in 
another vehicle.  Her grandfather is still in the hospital in rough 
condition.


http://heavy.com/news/2016/09/lea-phann-fernando-lopez-aguilar-illegal-immigrant-immigration-undocumented-alien-obama-amnesty-executive-order-des-moines-iowa-chuck-grassley-go-fund-me/

This one has the local citizenry cranked up.

Citizens being killed by illegal aliens is a much bigger issue to me 
than Dissel smoke, whether from a peecup or a VW.  Nobody is dying from 
Dissel smoke.



dan--- via Mercedes 
September 13, 2016 at 2:39 PM
If it’s any consolation there are lawmakers in a number of states 
attempting to pass laws to allow fining or ticketing these idiots when 
they do this. Some pretty interesting stories about how they have 
injured bikers and others with this stupidity.


Dan





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Re: [MBZ] Anybody need a 1994 320TE?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

 Pictures?

Sent from my iPad

> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:06 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> My friend is trying to unload a 1994 TE.  Always serviced by my mechanic.  
> Just got a good detailing, so it looks nice.  Glass is good, AC works, third 
> row seats, I saw no rips or tears, all lights complete with no damage.  wagon 
> has 210k miles with some minor clear coat wear (probably will buff out if 
> Martha did it).  Graphite black, not 040 color with black interior.  The pop 
> up part of sunroof is wonky, the antenna does not behave, has an aftermarket 
> CD player.
> 
> He is selling this one because he has another, but it is green and his wife 
> likes the green car more than the black one.
> 
> He would be happy to let it go FAST for $3600
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Admin spam filters Ab34KX27FUFU

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I tried but it bounced

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On 9/14/16 8:35 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

The host has made adjustments so you should not get the bounced messages from 
the spam filters. If anybody does send me an email.

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[MBZ] Admin spam filters

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The host has made adjustments so you should not get the bounced messages from 
the spam filters. If anybody does send me an email.

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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I could use wunnathem MiGs

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On 9/14/16 12:34 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?

I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which he
bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his friends
and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so he
bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
family here said.. stop now.. he did.

As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives every
indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.

The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know.. Brilliant
yet a bit eccentric..

Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some pics
ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.

I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed condition"
.. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...

Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine" ..
"ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so far..
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Re: [MBZ] 240 Mercedes Owners

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am interested, send me the details when you have them 

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> On Sep 13, 2016, at 11:34 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Anyone on the list interested in a nice 48,000 mile, 4 cylinder diesel
> engine complete with all accessories, including automatic transmission?
> 
> I just bought the holdings of a Polish fellow who owned 26 Mig aircraft
> with some 238,000 cubic feet of spare engines and component parts which he
> bought at the fall of the USSR. When Russia stopped being USSR, his friends
> and family called him up and said, "The airbase here is for sale" so he
> bought it... shipped it to USA, and has been selling off new engines and
> like new Mig aircraft since then.. until he turned 84 and his wife and
> family here said.. stop now.. he did.
> 
> As I worked through the layer upon layer of parts, I discovered a crate
> with the engine and a load of other parts taken from the Mercedes, along
> with the dash and speedo from what looks to be a very low mileage wreck,
> which he gathered up while in Europe and shipped along with everything
> else... The engine is Pristine clean, as the transmission, and gives every
> indication it's hardly used.. The shipping docs I've found with the crate
> are in Polish... so will need to translate them ASAP.
> 
> The gentleman was a WW2 veteran, fought the Nazis as a Polish resistance
> fighter, wounded at 15, and a "very interesting fellow" to know.. Brilliant
> yet a bit eccentric..
> 
> Just got the crate pulled out today, and the lid off.. will take some pics
> ASAP if anyone is interested in owning the engine.
> 
> I also now have what looks like a completely refurbished head, with new
> valves and cam.. precups, etc.. AND a used head, in "as removed condition"
> .. no written history on either of them. yet discovered...
> 
> Engine is still in the crate.. will need to pull serial numbers to
> determine exactly for sure what it is.. "looks like that's a 240 engine" ..
> "ok" ... "lets move it to the triage area" .. "done"... That's if so far..
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Re: [MBZ] what color is your daily driver?

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Red -2005 Dodge Grand Caravan
Dark Blue - 1984 300D
Champagne - 1985 300D
Maroon - 1982 300D
Carmine Red - 1978 MGB

Michael E. Esh


> On Sep 14, 2016, at 12:09 AM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 2012 Toyota Sienna Van 21Kmi Blizzard Pearl
> 2014 VW Beetle TDI Convertible, 15Kmi, Moon Rock Silver Metallic(can’t 
> describe the color, check out some pictures)
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
>> On Sep 12, 2016, at 2:37 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I came back to my office this afternoon after a trip to the bank.
>> 
>> I counted 29 vehicles in the parking lot behind the building and noted that 
>> 23 of the 29 were black, grey or silver.
>> 
>> There were a couple of dark red to burgundy and a couple of green - one dark 
>> olive and the other acqua for lack of a better choice. I think 1 white one.
>> 
>> Cannot recall the last vehicle - might have been a 2nd white one.
>> 
>> Do not know if this is indicative of vehicles as a whole or not.
>> 
>> If so, we have become a drab bunch.
>> 
>> My car was included in the grey bunch as I am driving the Honda Civic I 
>> bought from my mother. However, I have the dark red Mercedes and the ruby 
>> red F150 at home and my wife's car is blue but on the blue-grey side of 
>> blue. If I had purchased the Honda Civic new, it would not have been the 
>> slate grey color.
>> 
>> RB
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