Re: [MBZ] Overpriced 560 SL on BAT - ends today

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

They just have no curb appeal imho.

On Dec 23, 2016 12:17 AM, "clay via Mercedes"  wrote:

> That is a pretty low price for a car in that condition.  Must be something
> greatly wrong to only pull in 9500.
>
> clay
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>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bidding frenzy has sent the price toward five figures.  What do people
> see
> > in these utterly boring 107s?
> >
> > http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-560sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] Overpriced 560 SL on BAT - ends today

[clay via Mercedes]

That is a pretty low price for a car in that condition.  Must be something 
greatly wrong to only pull in 9500.

clay


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 9:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bidding frenzy has sent the price toward five figures.  What do people see
> in these utterly boring 107s?
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-560sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[clay via Mercedes]

I am aware of his desires.  I was sharing the current state of affairs near me 
and showing the best that could be had.

I would not expect Kyle of being a bottom feeder like the rest of us.

clay


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 5:16 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I think you are slightly missing the point Clay. Kyle isn't looking for a 
> starting point. He is looking for the finished good usable end result. In 
> other words NO PROJECTS.
> 
> Manfred
> 
> Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:59:24 -0800
> From: clay 
> 
> 
> Not as perfect as I would like, but could be very good starting points for a 
> long term DD.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[clay via Mercedes]

I would be glad to post a more viable TD were one to show itself.   PNW has 
been well plucked of great examples.  The BioD revolution sent many good cars 
to early graves.  There are a few really superb cars to be had, but at a 
premium and not all that often.

clay


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 4:36 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville Florida
> tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
> Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
> brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.
> 
> My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something that
> requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
> road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life, but
> right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part time
> school, part time farmer, and full time husband.
> 
> If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!
> 
> Kyle
> 
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The '84 looks nice but has obviously been sadly neglected.  Left the hood
>> open long enough to crack the washer fluid reservoir?  Not safe to drive
>> with current wiper blades?  C'mon, man!
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:59 PM, clay via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Not as perfect as I would like, but could be very good starting points
>> for
>>> a long term DD.
>>> 
>>> clay
>>> 
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/5860013232.html
>>> 
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5895164881.html
>>> 
>>> https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5924964266.html
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] FL Q

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I already gave ya the best offer you are gonna get.

All ya gotta do is ride da dog over to me.  I'll give ya a ride to the Q 
and back.  Then ya only have ta ride da dog back ta house town.


But since you didn't bite right away, now you'll have to buy fuel for 
the first $70.   I already bought a ticket to ride da dog over toward 
Dan.  If you take up the deal now, you cost me $70, thus the reason why 
you have to buy fuel/food to cover my loss.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 22, 2016 at 10:25 PM
Yea well I get no spect from you Yankees

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Re: [MBZ] FL Q

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea well I get no spect from you Yankees 

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 10:22 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not for the ChowdahQ
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4 matic
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Dec 20, 2016 1:16 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> It is customary to get the list owner to the event you are hosting.
>> Normally I charge an appearance fee but I am waiving it this time.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Better send a note to Santa quick.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 20/12/2016 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Who is sending me the ticket on Delta? I do not like flying Delta, I
>> prefer American.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 20/12/2016 11:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So who is hosting this deal? Who is flying me down for my appearance?
>> 
> Delta?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] FL Q

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Not for the ChowdahQ

Dwight Giles Jr.
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On Dec 20, 2016 1:16 PM, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is customary to get the list owner to the event you are hosting.
> Normally I charge an appearance fee but I am waiving it this time.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:55 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Better send a note to Santa quick.
> >
> > RB
> >
> >> On 20/12/2016 11:54 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Who is sending me the ticket on Delta? I do not like flying Delta, I
> prefer American.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Dec 20, 2016, at 11:22 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  On 20/12/2016 11:21 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  So who is hosting this deal? Who is flying me down for my appearance?
> 
> >>> Delta?
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] k: Welcome New Member

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Well I get fed up with politics posts here from time to time but I have
been on this list  & its predecessor since 2002.

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On Dec 20, 2016 7:13 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
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> You'll get fed up with us soon enough!
>
> Kyle Arola via Mercedes 
>> December 20, 2016 at 5:38 PM
>> Thanks Giles! So far so awesome here!
>> Kyle
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Dunno,  you may be able to buy a new or used motherboard, depending on 
how popular the machine was.  I got a board level repair for $200, but 
that makes no sense if the laptop was a $300 wally land special pentium 
when it was new.


Find a computer shop that will replace the machine if they can't return 
it to you in working condition.  Pay em for doing the bios update.  It 
can't cost that much.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
December 22, 2016 at 8:53 PM
Exactly

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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Exactly

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Bricking a machine due to a failed BIOS update won’t affect the data stored 
> on it, you can just take the hard drive out and put it on anything else and 
> get the data.  It hoses the BIOS EEPROM and you can’t boot the machine again. 
>  In a desktop where you could pull the BIOS chip out and replace it you could 
> recover, but in a laptop where the BIOS chip is soldered to the motherboard 
> you’re pretty much screwed.
> 
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
>> 
>> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It's good for the replacement machine that you buy after you bricked the
first one (it was going to die soon anyway ).

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A backup won't do any good if it's bricked and won't even get to the post
> screen
>
>


-- 
OK Don

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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Bricking a machine due to a failed BIOS update won’t affect the data stored on 
it, you can just take the hard drive out and put it on anything else and get 
the data.  It hoses the BIOS EEPROM and you can’t boot the machine again.  In a 
desktop where you could pull the BIOS chip out and replace it you could 
recover, but in a laptop where the BIOS chip is soldered to the motherboard 
you’re pretty much screwed.


Dan


> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

A backup won't do any good if it's bricked and won't even get to the post screen

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:58 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
>> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[OK Don via Mercedes]

That's why you do a full backup before attempting any such operation.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:36 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for
> many years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update
>
>
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I am somewhat scared to do a bios update. I have done them many times for many 
years but had a laptop brick on me once after a failed bios update

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> On Dec 22, 2016, at 6:28 PM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Randy, 
> Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed 
> updates, especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 
> wants that may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. 
> It's good to keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded Win10 on my two 
> old Dell Vostros (200 and 220), I had to update the BIOS on the 200 in order 
> for Win10 to load because the original BIOS was missing a feature. After 
> updating the BIOS, Win10 loaded and has run fine since back in the Summer. 
> Just some extra info to consider. 
> Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, 
> Roger 
> Roger Hale 
> Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
> Monroe, Ga. 
> 770-267-0850 
> www.dinnerwareclassics.com 
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[MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[rogerhga--- via Mercedes]

Randy, 
Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed updates, 
especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 wants that 
may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. It's good to 
keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded Win10 on my two old Dell 
Vostros (200 and 220), I had to update the BIOS on the 200 in order for Win10 
to load because the original BIOS was missing a feature. After updating the 
BIOS, Win10 loaded and has run fine since back in the Summer. Just some extra 
info to consider. 
Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, 
Roger 
Roger Hale 
Dinnerware Classics, Inc. 
Monroe, Ga. 
770-267-0850 
www.dinnerwareclassics.com 


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Re: [MBZ] Question du jour

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Curt MYOB.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 5:55 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I thought I won a jar once for something I got right
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 12/22/16 12:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Hey Curley,
>>
>> I just sent the winner of one of my apolitical contests a jar of artisanal
>> Pepper Jelly.
>>
>> If I did the same for you would you stfu and stay on topic for 6 months?
>>
>> ROFL.
>>
>> Peace,
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> Q:  HOW do you measure "progress" of something that does not exist?
>>>
>>> A;   "progress is measured by how much taxpayer money is spent.
>>>
>>> Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change
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> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] Question du jour

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I thought I won a jar once for something I got right

--FT


On 12/22/16 12:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Hey Curley,

I just sent the winner of one of my apolitical contests a jar of artisanal
Pepper Jelly.

If I did the same for you would you stfu and stay on topic for 6 months?

ROFL.

Peace,

Andrew

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Q:  HOW do you measure "progress" of something that does not exist?

A;   "progress is measured by how much taxpayer money is spent.

Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

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Re: [MBZ] Question du jour

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

You started it...
-Curt

  From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 To: Mercedes Discussion List  
Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 12:33 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Question du jour
   
Hey Curley,

I just sent the winner of one of my apolitical contests a jar of artisanal
Pepper Jelly.

If I did the same for you would you stfu and stay on topic for 6 months?

ROFL.

Peace,

Andrew

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Q:  HOW do you measure "progress" of something that does not exist?
>
> A;  "progress is measured by how much taxpayer money is spent.
>
> Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, Jaime!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 06:44:33 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
 wrote:

> This one:
> http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gear-lube/severe-gear-75w-90/
> Good luck!
> Jaime

Thank you!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor Reseal

[MG via Mercedes]

I wouldn't know on that as the first windows machine I had was a 
256 non IBM. It had a massive 5MB hard drive and 5.5 floppy. Wow, 
I was in heaven! Even had a modem though I think it was only 
2,500 baud. Still another thing the Apple never had and a lot 
more then the 16KB of memory that came with the Apple I think all 
of 650KB. Times sure have changed.


Manfred

Jim Cathey wrote:

I think the last machine to come out with a cassette interface was the IBM
PC.

The modulation and data formats had a lot to do with reliability.  No two
machines
(brand) used the same system.  Some worked better than others.

-- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Thanks Fred. Good to know.

RB

On 22/12/2016 12:00 PM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Randy.

I have  two laptops with first gen I7's running 10 with no issues.

Sony Viao and an HP Pavilion.

YMMV.

Fred


Fred Moir.



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Re: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Randy.

I have  two laptops with first gen I7's running 10 with no issues.

Sony Viao and an HP Pavilion.

YMMV.

Fred


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 22 December 2016 12:48
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Randy Bennell
Subject: [MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

My computer guy was just in and I asked him my question about updating
to 10 from 7.

He initially said he saw no good reason not to do so, but then had a
quick look to see what chip is in this computer.

It is an i7 860 which he says is a 1st generation chip and says he has
encountered problems with running 10 on i5 machines of the 1st generation.

He believes there is a fault in the chip and thus no way to fix it.

He recommended that I not change from 7.

Anyone else run into this scenario?

RB


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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes - the first rule of DIYing is "Do no harm."

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:23 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
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> I had totally forgotten about Hart to Hart!  I loved that show growing
> up maybe that is where this came from.
>
> I am a super duper maintainer of my stuff, and I have an awesome set of
> tools! (inherited from my Grandfather along with his tractor) and I am not
> afraid to use them.  I am old enough to recognize the wisdom of others and
> ask for help when I need it.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5cneCgNA9U
>
> Kyle
>
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Kyle sez:
> >
> > >‎go for the gold with our
> > >favorite of all time...
> > >Drum roll please
> > >The W123 Wagon.
> >
> > You must be hooked on Hart to Hart reruns. A 123 wagon was the star of
> > that show.
> >
> > >‎feel that a quality W123 wagon is well >within our reach and abilities
> > to acquire.
> >
> > Your ability to maintain and repair it depends on your quality of heeding
> > advice to questions asked here... ;)
> >
> > Hint to Andrew.
> >
> > Rick
> > Who cheaps out on spheres...?
> > SMH
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Re: [MBZ] w123 tailgate aquarium

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Well, we'll all be advised to drink and bathe in Trump brand water pretty
soon, lest he sic his legions of deplorables on those individuals who dare
to resist..

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:28 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Never seen water get into a tailgate from the lens seals. At least not on
> my TD. Could be that weird water up there in Washington.
>
> I've changed my thoughts. The foremost probable is the wiper shaft seal.
> Should be easy to check. Just take the trim piece out, run a hose over the
> tailgate glass and have someone watch the shaft area inside to see if it
> leaks. Not too difficult a change though you do have to take out the whole
> carpet panel to get the wiper motor out. Get all the plastic parts at the
> shaft while you are at it. The one piece that has the four prongs on it and
> holds the whole seal in has a tendency to break the prongs off rather
> easily if it is the original.
>
> Manfred
>
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
>> Did he rule out the taillight lens seals?
>>
>> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:13 PM, MG via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I can see it being the window seal or the wiper nozzle seal possibly the
>>> tailgate seal itself at the top. The wiper shaft goes through the glass
>>> and
>>> could cause it but you would notice the carpet on the door is wet so if
>>> that's it it is easy to diagnose but in that case I would think you would
>>> have more water in the third seat footwell then the tailgate itself. I
>>> think the top of the carpet there is pretty tight against the tailgate
>>> itself or at least it is on mine that there shouldn't be significant
>>> water
>>> getting under it.
>>>
>>> Manfred
>>>
>>>
>>> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:36:38 -0800
>>>
 From: Karl Wittnebel 


 I sent this a few days ago, but it never went out.

 The tailgate on my 85 Wagon is filling with water when it rains. A new
 behavior. Is it usually the window seal, the wiper nozzle seal, the
 wiper
 stalk seal, or the main door gasket? Some water in the footwell of the
 3rd
 seat also.

 I guess the first step is reinstall the glass. The door gasket looks
 good,
 but perhaps I could tighten the latch position a bit.

 Thanks.


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[MBZ] OT Windows 10 again

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

My computer guy was just in and I asked him my question about updating 
to 10 from 7.


He initially said he saw no good reason not to do so, but then had a 
quick look to see what chip is in this computer.


It is an i7 860 which he says is a 1st generation chip and says he has 
encountered problems with running 10 on i5 machines of the 1st generation.


He believes there is a fault in the chip and thus no way to fix it.

He recommended that I not change from 7.

Anyone else run into this scenario?

RB


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[MBZ] Overpriced 560 SL on BAT - ends today

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bidding frenzy has sent the price toward five figures.  What do people see
in these utterly boring 107s?

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1986-mercedes-benz-560sl-5/
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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy 280SE 4.5 on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Even I knew that - from bitter experience.

We drove the 1973 280 all the way from D.C. to Cincinnati.  As we got off
the interstate, the oil pressure dropped precipitously.  I reached into the
glove box and frantically called one of the Friends of MBCA listed in the
booklet that the Club handed out in those days (1983).  I had a brief
conversation with a Club member and he informed me that this was entirely
normal - under load the needle needs to be pinned but at idle or cruising
it is permitted to slack off.

A good time was had by all after this misadventure and needless diversion.

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:48 AM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I read the manual on my 450SL (D-jet) and it said that a drop to half bar
> at idle was standard (when new).  AS long as pressure returns to 3 bar when
> you drive, all is well.
>
>
>
> clay
>
> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
> 1986 SDL - Polei
>
> retired models-
> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 21, 2016, at 5:56 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > The M117 engine is very robust, and will run a LONG time with the oil
> > pressure at that level. I didn't see much drop at all with 105F days and
> > A/C running in the M117 in the '78 450SLC. The oil pressure is not an
> > issue, at all.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 7:48 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> In theory, yes, its in spec, but for how much longer?  And what happens
> >> when its 105 outside and you have the AC on?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > *“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
> of
> > our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
> > WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 44 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Question du jour

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Hey Curley,

I just sent the winner of one of my apolitical contests a jar of artisanal
Pepper Jelly.

If I did the same for you would you stfu and stay on topic for 6 months?

ROFL.

Peace,

Andrew

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:21 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Q:  HOW do you measure "progress" of something that does not exist?
>
> A;   "progress is measured by how much taxpayer money is spent.
>
> Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change
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Re: [MBZ] OT A R Gov., who believes in climate change

[Larry Turner via Mercedes]

Exactly!


On 12/21/2016 1:54 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

There is no doubt there is climate change. It all goes in cycles and has 
nothing to do with us. The sun gets hotter, the orbits change a little..

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 21, 2016, at 11:10 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
wrote:

I'm not a denier. I just doubt that we are responsible for it as the evidence 
is not clear. I don't believe in science that is created in order to further a 
political agenda. I think we should do everything within reason to protect our 
planet either way.

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 21, 2016, at 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

And is doing something about it - take note Curt and Dimitri.

GOP climate leader cuts emissions, except from cars

Benjamin Storrow , E News
reporter
Published: Wednesday, December 21, 2016

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker is a rarity among Republicans. He believes
in climate change, and he's doing something about it.

Baker released a proposal

last week to curb greenhouse gas emissions by 7.2 percent of 1990 levels
in four years. The plan calls on power plants to curtail emissions, on the
state government to upgrade its vehicle fleet and on pipeline operators to
patch leaky distribution lines.

The question for Massachusetts: Does Baker's plan go far enough?

[image: E Power Plan Hub Logo]


The answer is legally important. Massachusetts' high court ruled this
summer that the Bay State is bound by a 2008 law requiring it to slash
carbon emissions 25 percent of 1990 levels by 2020 and 80 percent by 2050 (
Climatewire , May
19).

Greens are quick to praise the governor. In the current political
environment, they view any Republican working to combat climate change as a
positive development. But the plan will almost certainly fail to meet the
state's ambitious carbon-cutting goals, they say, noting that it does
little to meaningfully tackle the transportation sector, now the largest
emitter of greenhouse gases.

"I am encouraged that they are taking these steps," said Peter Shattuck,
director of the clean energy initiative at the Acadia Center, an
environmental group. "For the long term, there clearly needs to be a lot
more done to achieve the 2050 reduction and the interim reduction to get
there."

Power generators, for their part, see the plan as piling on. They would be
required to come up with the majority of emission cuts (about 4 percent)
under Baker's proposal.

Utilities have cut their carbon emissions 60 percent in the last 16 years,
said Dan Dolan, president of the New England Power Generators Association.
Transportation, meanwhile, accounted for more than 40 percent of all
statewide greenhouse gas emissions, roughly twice as much as the power
sector.

"We've picked the low-hanging fruit, and the focus needs to be shifted to
the places where the low-hanging fruit hasn't been picked," Dolan said.
Deeper cuts at power plants

State officials say they believe the plan gets Massachusetts to its legal
targets. In 2013, the state had already cut emissions by 19.7 percent of
1990 levels, according figures by the Massachusetts Department of
Environmental Protection.

Martin Suuberg, commissioner of the state Department of Environmental
Protection, said the state tends to err conservatively when proposing
emissions cuts. But he said regulators are open to ideas.
[image: Charlie Baker]

Massachusetts Gov. Charlie Baker (R). Photo courtesy of Wikipedia.

The state's plan, which now goes out for public comment, calls on imposing
an annual emissions cap of 9.1 million tons on power plants starting in
2018. That would fall to 8.6 million tons by 2020 and 1.8 million tons in
2050.

It would also impose emission limits for state-owned vehicles, and it calls
on gas companies to patch leaky distribution lines and institute a clean
energy standard, allowing generators to receive credits for procuring
low-emitting sources of electricity, like hydro. The proposal would
effectively increase the state's renewable portfolio standard, which now
requires that generators receive 11 percent of their power from sources
like wind and solar.

"I think we all recognize that we need to keep making progress,
particularly as we're moving to transportation and other sectors," Suuberg
said in an interview.

Environmentalists are hopeful that they can convince Baker to go further
still. The state's proposed cap on power plant emissions needs to be about
1 million tons lower to meet its legal responsibilities, said David Ismay,
an attorney with the Conservation Law Foundation.

And while addressing state-owned vehicles is a start, "these regulations do
virtually no meaningful work in reducing those transportation 

Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Curt.

I dunno, they probably have the best of everything.

It is may be that our infantile puling that boors them.

I know that I have now probably annoyed everyone, so I shut up.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Curt Raymond via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 22 December 2016 11:56
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Curt Raymond
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

Getting a good ISP on the other side is notoriously difficult.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Getting a good ISP on the other side is notoriously difficult.
-Curt

  From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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Cc: Dan Penoff 
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 5:14 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member
   
I wasn’t going to disturb it.  For all we know he’s still getting the emails 
but just can’t respond in this Earthly plain.

Dan

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:36 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I vote to keep it.  Never know when it may come in handy.  I expect he will 
> return with great founts of Diesel Wisdom.
> 
> clay
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Installing directional snow tires "backwards"

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Last winter the rear tires on Angie's Golf were worn on the inside edge and I 
didn't notice until one day driving home in a light snow the rear of the car 
had a disturbing tendency to try to slide off the road... I put snow tires on 
the next day.
-Curt

  From: fmiser via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: fmiser 
 Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2016 1:12 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Installing directional snow tires "backwards"
   
> Mitch wrote:

> I'm sitting here staring at the stack of chevron treaded
> Pirellis that the UPS man brought me yesterday, and thinking
> "would I get better braking if I put the non-drive wheels on the
> wrong side of the car"? (this is on my FWD Saturn)

Or just mount them "wrong" side out.

> The chevron tread pattern moves water to the sides to prevent
> hydroplaning, and it increases drive traction on soft surfaces.
> I'm guessing that reversing the tires would hamper rain
> performance and increase braking performance on soft surfaces.

Hmm...  Maybe.  Is the performance improved because the tip
touches the ground first?  Or because of the direction of the
slope relative to the direction of force?  Some of each?

I don't know.

But the back tires don't contribute much during heavy braking,
though on a slippery surface, there won't be any heavy braking!

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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

I had totally forgotten about Hart to Hart!  I loved that show growing
up maybe that is where this came from.

I am a super duper maintainer of my stuff, and I have an awesome set of
tools! (inherited from my Grandfather along with his tractor) and I am not
afraid to use them.  I am old enough to recognize the wisdom of others and
ask for help when I need it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5cneCgNA9U

Kyle



On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 11:14 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Kyle sez:
>
> >‎go for the gold with our
> >favorite of all time...
> >Drum roll please
> >The W123 Wagon.
>
> You must be hooked on Hart to Hart reruns. A 123 wagon was the star of
> that show.
>
> >‎feel that a quality W123 wagon is well >within our reach and abilities
> to acquire.
>
> Your ability to maintain and repair it depends on your quality of heeding
> advice to questions asked here... ;)
>
> Hint to Andrew.
>
> Rick
> Who cheaps out on spheres...?
> SMH
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Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor Reseal

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

I think the last machine to come out with a cassette interface was the IBM
PC.

The modulation and data formats had a lot to do with reliability.  No two
machines
(brand) used the same system.  Some worked better than others.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Kyle sez:

>‎go for the gold with our
>favorite of all time...
>Drum roll please
>The W123 Wagon.

You must be hooked on Hart to Hart reruns. A 123 wagon was the star of that 
show.

>‎feel that a quality W123 wagon is well >within our reach and abilities to 
>acquire.

Your ability to maintain and repair it depends on your quality of heeding 
advice to questions asked here... ;)

Hint to Andrew.

Rick 
Who cheaps out on spheres...?
SMH
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Thank you, God!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYlJhi621Q0


> On December 22, 2016 at 8:20 AM Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> I turned to her and said, rather excitedly, "This is where they filmed the
> homecoming parade scenes for Animal House, right?"
> 
> She turned away and said somewhat disgustedly, "Yes."

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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dr. August M. Booth has been mentioned in conjunction with this. 
In honor or his memory, buy the best car you can find, and have a thousand or
two in reserve for making it perfect. 

Beats the heck out of buying a decent car for $3k and having to throw $5k into
it and still not having the best car available. 

Mitch. 

> On December 22, 2016 at 10:15 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> MG sez: 
> 
> >‎In other words NO PROJECTS.
> 
> No projects = BIG 
>  
> Extreme bargains come along about once a year, in my experience, looking in
> one area of the country. Country wide, probably one or two a month. The
> ability to pounce on a deal within hours is needed.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

That is totally true Rick.  The options for us seem to be a used crapbox
modern wagon (heck no), a used W124 or 210 wagon from MB (and we don't care
for these body styles as much as our favorite) or go for the gold with our
favorite of all time...
Drum roll please
The W123 Wagon.
Hence, our search for a solid, complete, and ready to roll daily driver.
We know that extreme bargains are rare as hens teeth, and that is not our
focus here.  We are working on getting a wagon worth the money and are
currently working on a lead or two.  I really don't mind paying somebody
what their car is worth and feel that a quality W123 wagon is well within
our reach and abilities to acquire.
Kyle



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> MG sez:
>
> >‎In other words NO PROJECTS.
>
> No projects = BIG 
>
> Extreme bargains come along about once a year, in my experience, looking
> in one area of the country. Country wide, probably one or two a month. The
> ability to pounce on a deal within hours is needed.
>
> Rick .
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

MG sez: 

>‎In other words NO PROJECTS.

No projects = BIG 
 
Extreme bargains come along about once a year, in my experience, looking in one 
area of the country. Country wide, probably one or two a month. The ability to 
pounce on a deal within hours is needed.

Rick .

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Re: [MBZ] w123 tailgate aquarium

[MG via Mercedes]

Never seen water get into a tailgate from the lens seals. At 
least not on my TD. Could be that weird water up there in 
Washington.


I've changed my thoughts. The foremost probable is the wiper 
shaft seal. Should be easy to check. Just take the trim piece 
out, run a hose over the tailgate glass and have someone watch 
the shaft area inside to see if it leaks. Not too difficult a 
change though you do have to take out the whole carpet panel to 
get the wiper motor out. Get all the plastic parts at the shaft 
while you are at it. The one piece that has the four prongs on it 
and holds the whole seal in has a tendency to break the prongs 
off rather easily if it is the original.


Manfred

Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Did he rule out the taillight lens seals?

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:13 PM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:


I can see it being the window seal or the wiper nozzle seal possibly the
tailgate seal itself at the top. The wiper shaft goes through the glass and
could cause it but you would notice the carpet on the door is wet so if
that's it it is easy to diagnose but in that case I would think you would
have more water in the third seat footwell then the tailgate itself. I
think the top of the carpet there is pretty tight against the tailgate
itself or at least it is on mine that there shouldn't be significant water
getting under it.

Manfred


Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:36:38 -0800

From: Karl Wittnebel 


I sent this a few days ago, but it never went out.

The tailgate on my 85 Wagon is filling with water when it rains. A new
behavior. Is it usually the window seal, the wiper nozzle seal, the wiper
stalk seal, or the main door gasket? Some water in the footwell of the 3rd
seat also.

I guess the first step is reinstall the glass. The door gasket looks good,
but perhaps I could tighten the latch position a bit.

Thanks.



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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

HAHAHA!
I forgot they filmed that there.  Infamy is never really lived down, is
it!  It is an amazing place and most people in the PNW are really nice.  I
loved spending summers up there on my Grandparents farms/ranches and have
great memories.

Love that movie also... Blast from the past!  My college experience is much
different from that tho.



On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 8:20 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I was making reference to the movie "Animal House" being filmed at the U
> of O in Eugene.
>
> I visited there several times as well as Cottage Grove where they filmed
> the homecoming parade scenes just to see some of the locations where the
> movie was shot. Nice towns. I went into this little storefront in Cottage
> Grove where the Chamber of Commerce was located. Lots of pictures on the
> walls, local history, etc. A matronly woman comes up to me and asks, "May I
> help you with something?"
>
> I turned to her and said, rather excitedly, "This is where they filmed the
> homecoming parade scenes for Animal House, right?"
>
> She turned away and said somewhat disgustedly, "Yes."
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Never have, and unless radical changes happen in our lives, never will.
> I
> > am taking classes at Santa Fe College in Gainesville.  The University of
> > Florida has this crazy policy that since they are an educational
> > institution then everyone here should have some kind of degree.  I get
> > their point and since they are paying, I am going! hahaha!
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So does that mean you attended Faber College in Eugene?
> >>
> >> Dan "Knowledge is Good"
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPad
> >>
> >>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville
> >> Florida
> >>> tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
> >>> Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
> >>> brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.
> >>>
> >>> My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something
> that
> >>> requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
> >>> road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life,
> >> but
> >>> right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part
> >> time
> >>> school, part time farmer, and full time husband.
> >>>
> >>> If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!
> >>>
> >>> Kyle
> >>
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[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I was making reference to the movie "Animal House" being filmed at the U of O 
in Eugene.

I visited there several times as well as Cottage Grove where they filmed the 
homecoming parade scenes just to see some of the locations where the movie was 
shot. Nice towns. I went into this little storefront in Cottage Grove where the 
Chamber of Commerce was located. Lots of pictures on the walls, local history, 
etc. A matronly woman comes up to me and asks, "May I help you with something?"

I turned to her and said, rather excitedly, "This is where they filmed the 
homecoming parade scenes for Animal House, right?"

She turned away and said somewhat disgustedly, "Yes."

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 8:05 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Never have, and unless radical changes happen in our lives, never will.  I
> am taking classes at Santa Fe College in Gainesville.  The University of
> Florida has this crazy policy that since they are an educational
> institution then everyone here should have some kind of degree.  I get
> their point and since they are paying, I am going! hahaha!
> 
> On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> So does that mean you attended Faber College in Eugene?
>> 
>> Dan "Knowledge is Good"
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>>> On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville
>> Florida
>>> tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
>>> Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
>>> brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.
>>> 
>>> My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something that
>>> requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
>>> road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life,
>> but
>>> right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part
>> time
>>> school, part time farmer, and full time husband.
>>> 
>>> If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!
>>> 
>>> Kyle
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] AC Compressor Reseal

[MG via Mercedes]

Not dependable? Really? When I first got my Apple II the cassette 
tape was all I had for a couple of years before I saved enough 
money to get the 5.5 floppy drive. I never had the first problem 
with it. Just lucky I guess or a good cassette player.


Manfred



Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 01:31:31 -0600
From: fmiser 



Curt wrote:



... my first computer, the TI99/4A. ...I casually mentioned that
my first computer had 16KB of RAM and we saved programs to audio
tape. ... The younger folks didn't believe you could save
programs to audio tape so we had a learning moment...


Sure!  You could _save_ the program to audio tape - but how often
were you able to _load_ from audio tape?  In that respect, the TI
was pretty weak.  We had better luck with reel-to-reel at higher
tape speeds than with cassette, but it was still not very dependable.




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[MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[MG via Mercedes]

I think you are slightly missing the point Clay. Kyle isn't 
looking for a starting point. He is looking for the finished good 
usable end result. In other words NO PROJECTS.


Manfred

Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 18:59:24 -0800
From: clay 


Not as perfect as I would like, but could be very good starting 
points for a long term DD.


clay

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Re: [MBZ] GP Light in Dash

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

It means you have a glow plug burned out.  Ditto for flashing during  
glow or after.


If the #1 is burned out, sometimes the glow plug lamp does not come on  
at all.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Never have, and unless radical changes happen in our lives, never will.  I
am taking classes at Santa Fe College in Gainesville.  The University of
Florida has this crazy policy that since they are an educational
institution then everyone here should have some kind of degree.  I get
their point and since they are paying, I am going! hahaha!

On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 7:52 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> So does that mean you attended Faber College in Eugene?
>
> Dan "Knowledge is Good"
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville
> Florida
> > tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
> > Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
> > brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.
> >
> > My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something that
> > requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
> > road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life,
> but
> > right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part
> time
> > school, part time farmer, and full time husband.
> >
> > If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!
> >
> > Kyle
>
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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

So does that mean you attended Faber College in Eugene?

Dan "Knowledge is Good" 

Sent from my iPad

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 7:36 AM, Kyle Arola via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville Florida
> tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
> Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
> brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.
> 
> My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something that
> requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
> road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life, but
> right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part time
> school, part time farmer, and full time husband.
> 
> If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!
> 
> Kyle


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Re: [MBZ] Kars For Kyle

[Kyle Arola via Mercedes]

Thanks Clay!!  That is about as far as you can get from Gainesville Florida
tho! hahaha!  I must admit, I miss the PW (family from
Eugene/Springfield/Tualatin areas) but seeing the snow in that one ad,
brr!  Looks cold and wet to me.

My primary goal is to get a daily driver out of the box.  Something that
requires minimal work to finish up, or something truly ready to hit the
road!  Perhaps in my future I would attempt to bring one back to life, but
right now I really don't have time for that with full time work, part time
school, part time farmer, and full time husband.

If you happen across an excellent example/daily driver, let me know!

Kyle

On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 10:05 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> The '84 looks nice but has obviously been sadly neglected.  Left the hood
> open long enough to crack the washer fluid reservoir?  Not safe to drive
> with current wiper blades?  C'mon, man!
>
> On Wed, Dec 21, 2016 at 9:59 PM, clay via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > Not as perfect as I would like, but could be very good starting points
> for
> > a long term DD.
> >
> > clay
> >
> > https://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/5860013232.html
> >
> > https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5895164881.html
> >
> > https://seattle.craigslist.org/sno/cto/5924964266.html
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Hey, Jaime!

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

This one:
http://www.amsoil.com/shop/by-product/gear-lube/severe-gear-75w-90/
Good luck!
Jaime



On Thu, Dec 22, 2016 at 12:04 AM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sun, 4 Dec 2016 11:45:20 -0500 Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I put Amsoil in.  I figure I'll be the last person to do it for a very
> > long time after I sell a car, so its worth the money.
> >
> > Plus their severe duty stuff quieted a noisy diff in a W123 I had.
>
> I went on Amsoil's page and found several severe duty differential lubes.
>
> Which one did you use?
>
> Our Chevy van suddenly developed a noisy differential a few years ago and
> I would like to try quieting it.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Welcome New Member

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I wasn’t going to disturb it.  For all we know he’s still getting the emails 
but just can’t respond in this Earthly plain.

Dan

> On Dec 22, 2016, at 12:36 AM, clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I vote to keep it.  Never know when it may come in handy.  I expect he will 
> return with great founts of Diesel Wisdom.
> 
> clay
> 


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