Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

What color?

Rick
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From: Mountain Man via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 8:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

A guy at mercedeslist just today said he has full set of seat
re-upholstery for CD for 4hundred in original shipping boxes. Walt
Parce. Just the solution to this auction? The company hame sounded
european.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Frustrating.   My guess is that he overheated it the first time, and 
that is why the new cheep chinee radiator blew. The second radiator 
looked like an overpressure blowout to me.  The two new radiators were 
good money after bad.



Craig via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 10:11 PM
On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:17:13 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"

That sounds like a good idea.


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] And back out to the heat....

[MG via Mercedes]

I bought four of those back when they were $6 on sale. None of 
them worked after 2 years and none of them were outside in the 
rain. They were all used sitting on the dash. Thats if you are 
talking about those red plastic cased ones.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Good idea!

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On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:

Suggestion: Look at Harbor Freight for their solar battery tender/charger.
They can be mounted most anywhere you will get sun exposure on the trailer,
and generate just enough charge current to maintain battery charge.
Usually on sale for less than $15...

Unless you keep the trailer parked inside, should keep it all ready to hook
and go.


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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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I need to get the trailer hooked up and loaded for the trip out west
tomorrow to deliver a car to its new owner. I have not used the trailer in
quite a while and of course the battery was dead that runs the winch and
the power jack. It's on the charger now. And of course none of the lights
worked. I'm sure I need to mess with the ground as I have to nearly every
time I get ready to use it.

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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 15 Jun 2017 16:17:13 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I told the kid I have no more cars for him, he is on his own to figure
> it out now. 

That sounds like a good idea.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] And back out to the heat....

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Good idea!

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:10 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Suggestion: Look at Harbor Freight for their solar battery tender/charger.
> They can be mounted most anywhere you will get sun exposure on the trailer,
> and generate just enough charge current to maintain battery charge.
> Usually on sale for less than $15...
> 
> Unless you keep the trailer parked inside, should keep it all ready to hook
> and go.
> 
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> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I need to get the trailer hooked up and loaded for the trip out west
>> tomorrow to deliver a car to its new owner. I have not used the trailer in
>> quite a while and of course the battery was dead that runs the winch and
>> the power jack. It's on the charger now. And of course none of the lights
>> worked. I'm sure I need to mess with the ground as I have to nearly every
>> time I get ready to use it.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's hot

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You should come south to get away from the heat!  It is nice on the 
coast!  85-87,  alternating sun and Hilo Rain.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 2:15 PM
Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in 
this car and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can 
only work out for about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside 
to cool off, which I am doing now. For the record, the radiator is out 
of the 210. Took less than 10 minutes. Maybe 5.




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Re: [MBZ] And back out to the heat....

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Suggestion: Look at Harbor Freight for their solar battery tender/charger.
They can be mounted most anywhere you will get sun exposure on the trailer,
and generate just enough charge current to maintain battery charge.
Usually on sale for less than $15...

Unless you keep the trailer parked inside, should keep it all ready to hook
and go.


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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 2:31 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I need to get the trailer hooked up and loaded for the trip out west
> tomorrow to deliver a car to its new owner. I have not used the trailer in
> quite a while and of course the battery was dead that runs the winch and
> the power jack. It's on the charger now. And of course none of the lights
> worked. I'm sure I need to mess with the ground as I have to nearly every
> time I get ready to use it.
>
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Re: [MBZ] It's hot

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This is why I don't mind snow. Its been right pleasant the last two days, highs 
in the high 70s. Monday/Tuesday was in the mid-90s...
-Curt


  From: Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] It's hot
   
It's gonna be 120 here on Tuesday. That's Banned words hot. 
I recall in 1990, June 26 if I recall, I found out it was 122 degrees while 
listening to the radio whilst driving home from the old nuke plant driving my 
1968 280 SE. It was really stupid hot. Like hurt your eyelids hot. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need to get that shop insulated and some AC running in it.
> 
> I don’t like doing any kind of car related work between may and September.  
> It’s way too hot, even with a fan.
> 
> I replaced the driver’s door weatherstripping on the 95 E300D on Sunday.  
> It’s been overcast and raining here almost every day for the last week, so 
> while it’ “cool”, it oppressively humid.  I was soaking wet after ten minutes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in this 
>> car and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can only work 
>> out for about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside to cool off, 
>> which I am doing now. For the record, the radiator is out of the 210. Took 
>> less than 10 minutes. Maybe 5. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

A guy at mercedeslist just today said he has full set of seat
re-upholstery for CD for 4hundred in original shipping boxes.  Walt
Parce.  Just the solution to this auction?  The company hame sounded
european.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer wheel bearings

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

1.   Set em, tack weld the nut to the spindle.   Be an okie redneck
2.  Or file a flat, drill e hole for the cotter key, buy 2 castle nuts. 
Put em on and key em.



Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 5:42 PM
Ok I figured it out. You install the clip before the nut, then bend 
the tab over. Makes sense. I still don't trust this design as much as 
the old fashioned cotter pin.




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Re: [MBZ] MBCA survey

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max & Dan wrote:
> I had a rather lengthy discussion about the MBCA and its history with Pierre 
> Hedary a couple of weeks ago. Based on what he described to me I don't think 
> you're going to see any changes.

Probably not unlike what we see in politics today?  Old guys? -
meaningless gummers making sense to each other while the rest of the
country wants gummers to disappear.  Too bad there are soo many of the
gummers still yammering on.  Not unlike the MBCA in that it takes new
blood, just like politics needs new blood, but there is no acceptance
by the gummers for any youth.  gummers = old boomers without teeth, if
there are any boomers without teeth, nonetheless, all boomers are
gummers.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Trailer wheel bearings

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well with these axles supposedly you won't have to remove anything to grease 
them. They have a zerk fitting on the end that you pump in new grease and the 
old grease pumps out.

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Cotter pins are cheaper to replace than those tab washers when you repack 
> your bearings. 
> I prefer the plain nut with the 12pt socket that slips over it and accepts 
> the cotter. Easier to get the bearing preload just right than with the castle 
> nut. 
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On June 15, 2017 at 6:42 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Ok I figured it out. You install the clip before the nut, then bend the tab 
>> over. Makes sense. I still don't trust this design as much as the old 
>> fashioned cotter pin.
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer wheel bearings

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Cotter pins are cheaper to replace than those tab washers when you repack your 
bearings. 
I prefer the plain nut with the 12pt socket that slips over it and accepts the 
cotter. Easier to get the bearing preload just right than with the castle nut. 

Mitch.

> On June 15, 2017 at 6:42 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Ok I figured it out. You install the clip before the nut, then bend the tab 
> over. Makes sense. I still don't trust this design as much as the old 
> fashioned cotter pin.

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Re: [MBZ] It's hot

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well I'm done for the day. Trailer bearings are squared away, car is loaded for 
the trip, trailer lights are working. I'm heading in to take a shower and deal 
with my heat headache.

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 6:05 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It's gonna be  120 here on Tuesday. That's Banned words hot. 
> I recall in 1990, June 26 if I recall, I found out it was 122 degrees while 
> listening to the radio whilst driving home from the old nuke plant driving my 
> 1968 280 SE. It was really stupid hot. Like hurt your eyelids hot. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to get that shop insulated and some AC running in it.
>> 
>> I don’t like doing any kind of car related work between may and September.  
>> It’s way too hot, even with a fan.
>> 
>> I replaced the driver’s door weatherstripping on the 95 E300D on Sunday.  
>> It’s been overcast and raining here almost every day for the last week, so 
>> while it’ “cool”, it oppressively humid.  I was soaking wet after ten 
>> minutes.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in this 
>>> car and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can only work 
>>> out for about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside to cool off, 
>>> which I am doing now. For the record, the radiator is out of the 210. Took 
>>> less than 10 minutes. Maybe 5. 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's hot

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

It's gonna be 120 here on Tuesday. That's Banned words hot. 
I recall in 1990, June 26 if I recall, I found out it was 122 degrees while 
listening to the radio whilst driving home from the old nuke plant driving my 
1968 280 SE. It was really stupid hot. Like hurt your eyelids hot. 

Bob R

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You need to get that shop insulated and some AC running in it.
> 
> I don’t like doing any kind of car related work between may and September.  
> It’s way too hot, even with a fan.
> 
> I replaced the driver’s door weatherstripping on the 95 E300D on Sunday.  
> It’s been overcast and raining here almost every day for the last week, so 
> while it’ “cool”, it oppressively humid.  I was soaking wet after ten minutes.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in this 
>> car and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can only work 
>> out for about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside to cool off, 
>> which I am doing now. For the record, the radiator is out of the 210. Took 
>> less than 10 minutes. Maybe 5. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Trailer wheel bearings

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Ok I figured it out. You install the clip before the nut, then bend the tab 
over. Makes sense. I still don't trust this design as much as the old fashioned 
cotter pin.

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:35 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had to replace an axle on the trailer a while back and the new one has 
> those bearings that just has a metal clip that slips in the end of the 
> spindle instead of a cotter pin thru the spindle. I must be not placing it 
> correctly or something as I keep having problems with the bearings loosening 
> up on that axle. I am in the process of checking and sure enough it's way way 
> loose. I don't want it coming loose on a 1200 mile round trip and need to 
> figure this out now.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I can see the bite marks from here!


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 1:04 PM

Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of 
them, so there's that too.


Kleb has infected me.

--R




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[MBZ] Trailer wheel bearings

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I had to replace an axle on the trailer a while back and the new one has those 
bearings that just has a metal clip that slips in the end of the spindle 
instead of a cotter pin thru the spindle. I must be not placing it correctly or 
something as I keep having problems with the bearings loosening up on that 
axle. I am in the process of checking and sure enough it's way way loose. I 
don't want it coming loose on a 1200 mile round trip and need to figure this 
out now.

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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes hope so

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 5:03 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Hoping to do better with Spencer?
> 
>> On June 15, 2017 at 5:49 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Yes, that is what I am indicating. He is not by kid by blood though, he is 
>> my step kid. He father also has a bad habit of running vehicles out of oil 
>> and such and blowing them up. 
>> 
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>> 
 On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 On 15/06/2017 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 Hahaha. He can't even figure out not to drive a 210 with low coolant even 
 when it comes up on the dash in big red letters and says LOW COOLANT
 
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>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

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Hoping to do better with Spencer?

> On June 15, 2017 at 5:49 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yes, that is what I am indicating. He is not by kid by blood though, he is my 
> step kid. He father also has a bad habit of running vehicles out of oil and 
> such and blowing them up. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 15/06/2017 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Hahaha. He can't even figure out not to drive a 210 with low coolant even 
> >> when it comes up on the dash in big red letters and says LOW COOLANT
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> > 
> > So, are you suggesting that he takes after his mother's side of the family?
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

It's all on your shoulders to save this generation (read: step kid) and
stop the curse from destroying more cars

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 5:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes, that is what I am indicating. He is not by kid by blood though, he is
> my step kid. He father also has a bad habit of running vehicles out of oil
> and such and blowing them up.
>
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes, that is what I am indicating. He is not by kid by blood though, he is my 
step kid. He father also has a bad habit of running vehicles out of oil and 
such and blowing them up. 

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:44 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 15/06/2017 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Hahaha. He can't even figure out not to drive a 210 with low coolant even 
>> when it comes up on the dash in big red letters and says LOW COOLANT
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
> 
> So, are you suggesting that he takes after his mother's side of the family?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/06/2017 4:39 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Hahaha. He can't even figure out not to drive a 210 with low coolant even when 
it comes up on the dash in big red letters and says LOW COOLANT

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So, are you suggesting that he takes after his mother's side of the family?

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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hahaha. He can't even figure out not to drive a 210 with low coolant even when 
it comes up on the dash in big red letters and says LOW COOLANT

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Let him work his way into a rusty 240D. Pick one of your worst cars, he can 
> fix it up to driveable enough. When it craps out repeat. Slowly clean up Okie 
> Acres one heap at a time.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
>  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
> 
> Oh I could come up with a car to sell him but I do not want to sell him 
> another one of my cars for him to tear up. He needs a Chevy or honda or 
> something. I sold him this e430 on a payment plan after he wrecked his first 
> car I gave him. I really should not have done that. A 430 is way more car 
> than a kid needs. They will get up and haul some serious ass. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Is it that you have no more cars or no more cars for him?
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
>> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
>> 
>> It seemed like it was ok, was not bubbling. Took it for about a 3 mile 
>> drive, got back and coolant was flowing out of the water pump. Removed the 
>> cap, added more water and we get the bubbles. It seems to start blowing out 
>> of the water pump when the cap is on. I suspect it might have been blown 
>> when I first worked on it to patch the original radiator. Shortly after it 
>> literally blew out the side of the tank. I'm thinking now it was presssure. 
>> You can see exhaust gasses coming out of the overflow tank and when you shut 
>> it down you can hear it hissing and boiling within the engine. I told the 
>> kid I have no more cars for him, he is on his own to figure it out now. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between 
 going to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video 
 for the result
 
 http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
 
>>> 
>>> So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling of 
>>> air out of the system?
>>> Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?
>>> 
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Let him work his way into a rusty 240D. Pick one of your worst cars, he can fix 
it up to driveable enough. When it craps out repeat. Slowly clean up Okie Acres 
one heap at a time.

-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
   
Oh I could come up with a car to sell him but I do not want to sell him another 
one of my cars for him to tear up. He needs a Chevy or honda or something. I 
sold him this e430 on a payment plan after he wrecked his first car I gave him. 
I really should not have done that. A 430 is way more car than a kid needs. 
They will get up and haul some serious ass. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Is it that you have no more cars or no more cars for him?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
> 
> It seemed like it was ok, was not bubbling. Took it for about a 3 mile drive, 
> got back and coolant was flowing out of the water pump. Removed the cap, 
> added more water and we get the bubbles. It seems to start blowing out of the 
> water pump when the cap is on. I suspect it might have been blown when I 
> first worked on it to patch the original radiator. Shortly after it literally 
> blew out the side of the tank. I'm thinking now it was presssure. You can see 
> exhaust gasses coming out of the overflow tank and when you shut it down you 
> can hear it hissing and boiling within the engine. I told the kid I have no 
> more cars for him, he is on his own to figure it out now. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between 
> >> going to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video 
> >> for the result
> >> 
> >> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
> >> 
> > 
> > So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling of 
> > air out of the system?
> > Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?
> > 
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I had massively overheated it around Christmas, it seemed okay until we got 
some warm weather in April then it acted just like your video. It'd bubble like 
that forever.
Fred, Dimitri, Dwight and I replaced the head gasket and it was fine until I 
got it out on the highway the first time, then it was back to the bubbles. I 
think theres a crack somewhere but we never saw one and we looked pretty hard.
Dimitri found if he forced the thermostat open that he could continue driving 
it and the coolant wouldn't come out. I think he kept the cap loose too. I know 
a lot of you will say you can't do that but I'm just a reporter...
-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:26 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
   
When it blew?

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Thats what my '78 240D did...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:04 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] E430 radiator
> 
> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going 
> to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the 
> result
> 
> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
> 
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[MBZ] And back out to the heat....

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I need to get the trailer hooked up and loaded for the trip out west tomorrow 
to deliver a car to its new owner. I have not used the trailer in quite a while 
and of course the battery was dead that runs the winch and the power jack. It's 
on the charger now. And of course none of the lights worked. I'm sure I need to 
mess with the ground as I have to nearly every time I get ready to use it.

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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh I could come up with a car to sell him but I do not want to sell him another 
one of my cars for him to tear up. He needs a Chevy or honda or something. I 
sold him this e430 on a payment plan after he wrecked his first car I gave him. 
I really should not have done that. A 430 is way more car than a kid needs. 
They will get up and haul some serious ass. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:22 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Is it that you have no more cars or no more cars for him?
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: Mercedes Discussion List  
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
> 
> It seemed like it was ok, was not bubbling. Took it for about a 3 mile drive, 
> got back and coolant was flowing out of the water pump. Removed the cap, 
> added more water and we get the bubbles. It seems to start blowing out of the 
> water pump when the cap is on. I suspect it might have been blown when I 
> first worked on it to patch the original radiator. Shortly after it literally 
> blew out the side of the tank. I'm thinking now it was presssure. You can see 
> exhaust gasses coming out of the overflow tank and when you shut it down you 
> can hear it hissing and boiling within the engine. I told the kid I have no 
> more cars for him, he is on his own to figure it out now. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> >> On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between 
> >> going to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video 
> >> for the result
> >> 
> >> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
> >> 
> > 
> > So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling of 
> > air out of the system?
> > Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?
> > 
> > RB
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

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Is it that you have no more cars or no more cars for him?
-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:17 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator
   
It seemed like it was ok, was not bubbling. Took it for about a 3 mile drive, 
got back and coolant was flowing out of the water pump. Removed the cap, added 
more water and we get the bubbles. It seems to start blowing out of the water 
pump when the cap is on. I suspect it might have been blown when I first worked 
on it to patch the original radiator. Shortly after it literally blew out the 
side of the tank. I'm thinking now it was presssure. You can see exhaust gasses 
coming out of the overflow tank and when you shut it down you can hear it 
hissing and boiling within the engine. I told the kid I have no more cars for 
him, he is on his own to figure it out now. 

Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going 
>> to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the 
>> result
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
>> 
> 
> So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling of 
> air out of the system?
> Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

When it blew?

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:21 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Thats what my '78 240D did...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:04 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] E430 radiator
> 
> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going 
> to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the 
> result
> 
> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
> 
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Thats what my '78 240D did...
-Curt


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 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 5:04 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] E430 radiator
   
So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going to 
the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the result

http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk

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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

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Well heck he has his address listed I will just swing by next time I'm over 
there. 

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Understood. No biggie.  I’ll continue to call him.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I have not tried, I have been tied up all day.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Kaleb,
>>> 
>>> Did you ever get ahold of this guy?  I haven’t.
>>> 
>>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

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Yes. But no telling what kind of shape that engine is in. It's in the pick and 
pull for some reason. Can't look at the oil because they knock a hole in the 
oil pan to drain out all the oil before they put them out. Besides I would not 
attempt to pull a v8 out of a 210 at a pick and pull as I have not pulled one 
before and no telling what I would run into. If it was a 61x or a 60x maybe. 

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:11 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes   
> wrote:
> 
> Ouch.  Go back to pick-n-pull, get the engine e that goes with the radiator?  
> Tell heads on that, V8, right?
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On June 15, 2017 5:04:34 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between
>> going to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this
>> video for the result
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Understood. No biggie.  I’ll continue to call him.

Thanks,

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have not tried, I have been tied up all day.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Kaleb,
>> 
>> Did you ever get ahold of this guy?  I haven’t.
>> 
>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html


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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

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It seemed like it was ok, was not bubbling. Took it for about a 3 mile drive, 
got back and coolant was flowing out of the water pump. Removed the cap, added 
more water and we get the bubbles. It seems to start blowing out of the water 
pump when the cap is on. I suspect it might have been blown when I first worked 
on it to patch the original radiator. Shortly after it literally blew out the 
side of the tank. I'm thinking now it was presssure. You can see exhaust gasses 
coming out of the overflow tank and when you shut it down you can hear it 
hissing and boiling within the engine. I told the kid I have no more cars for 
him, he is on his own to figure it out now. 

Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 4:10 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
>> On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going 
>> to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the 
>> result
>> 
>> http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
>> 
> 
> So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling of 
> air out of the system?
> Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?
> 
> RB
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ouch.  Go back to pick-n-pull, get the engine that goes with the radiator?  
Tell heads on that, V8, right?
-- 
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'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 15, 2017 5:04:34 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between
>going to the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this
>video for the result
>
>http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk
>
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Re: [MBZ] E430 radiator

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 15/06/2017 4:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going to 
the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the result

http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk



So, are you suggesting there is a head gasket issue due to the bubbling 
of air out of the system?

Might it not settle down if you give it a bit of time?

RB

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[MBZ] E430 radiator

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So after spending nearly all day in the heat on this kids e430 between going to 
the pick and pull and installing it in the car, watch this video for the result

http://youtu.be/0jw2puDlJQk

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Re: [MBZ] Tire Fun

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Is your wife interested in a job testing tire longevity?  :)  Maybe she can get 
free tires to test...

How long did those Hankook tires last?  Did you go to Bridgestone tires to see 
if they'll last longer?
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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have not tried, I have been tied up all day.

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:27 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Kaleb,
> 
> Did you ever get ahold of this guy?  I haven’t.
> 
> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess he doesn't want to sell it that bad. I will try calling him.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.
>>> 
>>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Maybe. If you talk to the guy and want me to check it out let me know.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What do you think o cyou can get it for? $3500?
> 
> They need more pictures and to explain what the “electrical issues” were… 
> otherwise it looks like a pretty nice car.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[clay via Mercedes]

More than scrap value, but if they are able to be made to run, would sell for 
$1200 ea.

clay

> On Jun 14, 2017, at 7:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go look 
> at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
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> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] A Somewhat Timely Video

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The “Space Coast”, otherwise known as Melbourne, FL or thereabouts.  His actual 
location is a secret and cannot be revealed by those who have visited it.  If 
you saw what he had in the place at any given time you would understand why.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Where's his home base?
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max and Floyd!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

1968 or earlier

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> 1978
> Mitch
> > On June 14, 2017 at 11:06 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just the thing for your Buggered and Bent Benz Barn(TM)
> >
> > https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/6166609736.html
> >
> > IT'LL  make andrew cry!
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Re: [MBZ] A Somewhat Timely Video

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Where's his home base?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:34 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pierre is a good guy and has probably forgotten more about older MBs that
> anyone else knows collectively.  He’s the only technical (MB) person who
> openly praises and accepts the early electronic ignitions as being well
> designed and worth operating, as opposed to putting a “Pertronix” or some
> other aftermarket unit in place of it.  When he told me this a while back I
> knew he was the real deal.
>
> He is considered to be one of, if not the best technician there is on the
> older models.  He actually spends a fair amount of his time traveling
> around at owner’s expense to work on people’s cars.  Last time we talked he
> was coming to Tampa for the weekend to work on a couple of different cars
> for the owners.
>
> Very personable guy, too.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I like this guy!  Might be worth moving down to FL to cultivate his
> > expertise.
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPCddTn7shY=em
> >>
> >> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

OK so it seems like it is not worth fooling with the engine unless I can 
get it to fire off and run OK.  I guess I could just do the swap and 
unload the half-decent car then and knacker the turd and buggered 
engine, or sell the whole package to Curley.


I know where there is a dead 560SEL too, I'm trying to track that down.

--FT


On 6/15/17 3:24 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting it 
out.

-D



On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

If the bolts strip out while removing then yes.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special jig 
and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when you 
try to torque them.

-D




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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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[MBZ] Tire Fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wife calls me on her way to work this morning.

“There’s a belt loose on the car (SL500) and it’s hitting the back of the car.”

< confused >

“What do you mean a belt loose?”

There is a belt on the right rear wheel that’s loose and it’s whipping around, 
hitting the underside of the car.”

“Can you drive the car?”

“Yes, but I’ll have to do it slowly”

“OK. And send me a picture if you can.”

So I get a picture from her.  The inner edge of the right rear tire has come 
loose and started to break off, leaving a strip of rubber hanging off the tire 
about 2’ long.  Now I know what she’s talking about - I was trying to figure 
out how a belt (engine) got around the rear tire….

The car needed new skins anyway.  With the 17” 2003 SLK staggered wheels it’s a 
small fortune for tires.  So the SL500 gets a new set of tires today along with 
an alignment.  I am now about $1200 lighter.  Even so, if I amortize that over 
three years that they typically last, it’s about $40/month.  Wth minimal 
maintenance and no car payment, I can handle that.

And I put Bridgestones on it this time.  It used to have Hankooks.  Very, very 
limited choices in the rear sizes, unfortunately.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Attn poos

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Kaleb,

Did you ever get ahold of this guy?  I haven’t.

https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html



> On Jun 14, 2017, at 9:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess he doesn't want to sell it that bad. I will try calling him.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 14, 2017, at 8:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’ve called this guy twice today and left messages.  He’s never called back.
>> 
>> https://tulsa.craigslist.org/cto/6175447231.html
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 13, 2017, at 8:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Maybe. If you talk to the guy and want me to check it out let me know.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 13, 2017, at 7:39 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What do you think o cyou can get it for? $3500?
 
 They need more pictures and to explain what the “electrical issues” were… 
 otherwise it looks like a pretty nice car.
 
 -D
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Another reason why I would never touch a W126 420SEL.  Unless I was parting it 
out.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If the bolts strip out while removing then yes. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special 
>> jig and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when 
>> you try to torque them.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

If the bolts strip out while removing then yes. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special 
> jig and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when 
> you try to torque them.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
>>> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't 
>>> know much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
>>> helpful.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It's hot

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You need to get that shop insulated and some AC running in it.

I don’t like doing any kind of car related work between may and September.  
It’s way too hot, even with a fan.

I replaced the driver’s door weatherstripping on the 95 E300D on Sunday.  It’s 
been overcast and raining here almost every day for the last week, so while it’ 
“cool”, it oppressively humid.  I was soaking wet after ten minutes.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:15 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in this 
> car and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can only work 
> out for about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside to cool off, which 
> I am doing now. For the record, the radiator is out of the 210. Took less 
> than 10 minutes. Maybe 5. 
> 
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[MBZ] It's hot

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Summer hit all the sudden. Im working outside to get this radiator in this car 
and get trailer ready for a cross country hauling trip. I can only work out for 
about 20-30 minutes at a time before coming inside to cool off, which I am 
doing now. For the record, the radiator is out of the 210. Took less than 10 
minutes. Maybe 5. 

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And this is the one that needs the head bolt holes drilled with the special jig 
and then Heilicoiled, right?  Tat’s because the head bolts pull out when you 
try to torque them.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 3:11 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
>> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't know 
>> much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
>> helpful.
>> 
>> --FT
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The heads will need to be pulled and a valve job done for sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 2:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
> stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't know 
> much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be very 
> helpful.
> 
> --FT
> 
> 
>> On 6/15/17 3:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Not bad, not bad at all.
>> 
>> 
>> Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the 
>> chain the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the 
>> guides, and chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a 
>> maintenance item.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one 
>>> the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year 
>>> ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't 
>>> look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint 
>>> is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would 
>>> help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or 
>>> two, he went and got it and a week later something happened, there is a 
>>> hole in the front of the left bank valve cover that looks like the timing 
>>> chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from what I could see there.  
>>> Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and parks it out front.  He knows 
>>> some other guy with a 420SEL with a supposedly good motor, and buys it.  
>>> This car is a turd. The PO lost the key when his trailer burned down, so no 
>>> key to try to spin it but the guy says it was running.  The place where it 
>>> is parked was supposed to swap engines but it never happened, now both are 
>>> dead and he has to unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least 
>>> one good engine if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am 
>>> crazy but I can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap 
>>> the turd.  They both had good wheels so there's that.
>>> 
>>> Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
>>> Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so 
>>> there's that too.
>>> 
>>> Kleb has infected me.
>>> 
>>> --R
>>> 
>>> 
 On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
 Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
 Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
 combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
 once?
 
 -
 Max
 Charleston SC
 
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 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
> 
> --
> --FT
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of 
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> Winston 

Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You think the engine is trashed?  Could it be salvaged?  Would the valve 
stems look bent or something if it jumped timing on that bank?  I don't 
know much of anything about these gassers so some suggestions would be 
very helpful.


--FT


On 6/15/17 3:02 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Not bad, not bad at all.


Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the chain 
the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the guides, and 
chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a maintenance item.

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On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one the 
guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year ago when 
it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't look too bad, 
he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint is faded but the 
interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would help a lot.  He took 
it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or two, he went and got it and 
a week later something happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank 
valve cover that looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked 
OK from what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a supposedly 
good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost the key when his 
trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the guy says it was 
running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to swap engines but it 
never happened, now both are dead and he has to unload them.  I got them both 
for $425, maybe at least one good engine if not both, one half-decent car, the 
other a turd.  I am crazy but I can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or 
so and scrap the turd.  They both had good wheels so there's that.

Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so there's 
that too.

Kleb has infected me.

--R



On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Not bad, not bad at all. 


Btw what happen is a guide rail broke and jumped time, which caused the chain 
the bust the valve cover. All the shop needed to do was replace the guides, and 
chain and tensioner while at it. This is pretty much a maintenance item.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:04 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black one the 
> guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a year ago 
> when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It doesn't look 
> too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now and the paint is 
> faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on the paint would help a 
> lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with it for a week or two, he 
> went and got it and a week later something happened, there is a hole in the 
> front of the left bank valve cover that looks like the timing chain punched 
> it, but the chain looked OK from what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it 
> some guy in the hood and parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 
> 420SEL with a supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO 
> lost the key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but 
> the guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
> swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to unload 
> them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine if not both, 
> one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I can pick off some 
> parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd.  They both had good 
> wheels so there's that.
> 
> Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow and 
> Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, so 
> there's that too.
> 
> Kleb has infected me.
> 
> --R
> 
> 
>> On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
>> Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
>> combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
>> once?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
>>> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>>> 
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>>> 
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>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
>>> the enemy.”
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Hey Max and Floyd!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

1978
Mitch
> On June 14, 2017 at 11:06 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Just the thing for your Buggered and Bent Benz Barn(TM)
> 
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/ndf/cto/6166609736.html
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

That'll be my lunch time work out, loading a car on a trailer...
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On June 15, 2017 2:04:49 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black 
>one the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until
>a 
>year ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It
>
>doesn't look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now 
>and the paint is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on
>
>the paint would help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with
>
>it for a week or two, he went and got it and a week later something 
>happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank valve cover
>that 
>looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from 
>what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
>parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a 
>supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost
>the 
>key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the 
>guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
>swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to 
>unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine 
>if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I 
>can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd. 
>
>They both had good wheels so there's that.
>
>Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
>and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of
>them, 
>so there's that too.
>
>Kleb has infected me.
>
>--R
>
>
>On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there
>for
>> Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
>> combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we
>went to
>> once?
>>
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to
>go
>>> look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.
>>>
>>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html
>>>
>>> --
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>>> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or
>small,
>>> large or petty,
>>> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
>>> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming
>might of
>>> the enemy.”
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] Temptation

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

So I went and looked at these two cars, both are 420SELs.   The black 
one the guy bought a year old in 1989 and has driven it since up until a 
year ago when it started having engine problems of some vague sort.  It 
doesn't look too bad, he took fairly good care of it.  It's dirty now 
and the paint is faded but the interior was half nice.  Some poosing on 
the paint would help a lot.  He took it to a local indy who fooled with 
it for a week or two, he went and got it and a week later something 
happened, there is a hole in the front of the left bank valve cover that 
looks like the timing chain punched it, but the chain looked OK from 
what I could see there.  Anyway he takes it some guy in the hood and 
parks it out front.  He knows some other guy with a 420SEL with a 
supposedly good motor, and buys it.  This car is a turd. The PO lost the 
key when his trailer burned down, so no key to try to spin it but the 
guy says it was running.  The place where it is parked was supposed to 
swap engines but it never happened, now both are dead and he has to 
unload them.  I got them both for $425, maybe at least one good engine 
if not both, one half-decent car, the other a turd.  I am crazy but I 
can pick off some parts worth a $100 or $200 or so and scrap the turd.  
They both had good wheels so there's that.


Max doesn't know it yet but he is going to help me load them tomorrow 
and Saturday.  And Curley might have some interest in some bits of them, 
so there's that too.


Kleb has infected me.

--R


On 6/14/17 10:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Looks to me like both are gassers, wonder if there is an engine there for
Curly?  Not to far from my work, maybe a fifteen minute drive, we can
combine with lunch at that soul food place in North Chuck that we went to
once?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 10:17 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


What say you Max?  I wonder what these things are.  I might have to go
look at them, I need to become the Kleb of Charleston.

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6171901835.html

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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[G Mann via Mercedes]

CD's had leather seats Texas sun damage and no treatment to the
leather... Leather got dry and hard.. cracked and turned to dust when sat
upon...

Winning argument for that posit is "look at condition of the rear seat". It
is very intact, by comparison.


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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 8:37 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> A pair of spoiled, frisky golden retrievers?
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > WOW!  How does someone destroy the interior like that?  An 83 with
> 200,000
> > miles has only been driven 6,000 miles a year.  It should be in excellent
> > condition.  This is shameful.  The 300CD is such a handsome car usually.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:11 PM
> > To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> > Subject: [MBZ] coupe for Rick
> >
> > https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6163291067.html
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap radiators

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

He says he didn't and I didn't see any damage. I might have just not been 
fitting exactly right or something. 

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> On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:33 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> If he hit something again it might be time for the shoe leather express for 
> awhile...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:30 PM
> Subject: [MBZ] Cheap radiators
> 
> Well the cheap eBay radiator lasted less than  a week. Looks like the stupid 
> boy may have hit something again because when I looked at the car the 
> radiator was loose from the top clips and pushed back. It does not appear the 
> fan contacted the radiator though as I don't see any damage. There is a huge 
> stream pissing out near the top next to the passenger side tank. I can't tell 
> for sure but depending on how long he drove it could have blown a head 
> gasket. It did start right up and seems to run fine and I don't see any water 
> in oil or oil in coolant. I guess I'm going to raise hell with the eBay guy 
> and tell the kid he is going to have to pay for the real deal. I should have 
> known better but was trying to save him money. 
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[MBZ] Pick a part trip

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I went to the pick a part praying they happen to have a radiator for the e430. 
I did not want to spend the money on a new one if the head is blown. Bingo, 
they had one. It was a Nissens but I guess it will do. Some moron put the trans 
cooler lines on so tight I ended up having to just cut them. 

While I was there I noticed what appeared to be a fairly intact 83 240d manny, 
still had engine, manual trans etc. if a person wanted to pull the manual parts 
out could be a money maker. Car looked decent with no rust so not sure why it 
was there.

I also spotted a 78 280se that had a really nice looking metal bodied acc servo 
in it. I probably should have snagged that. By that time it was getting hot and 
I was getting tired. 

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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[G Mann via Mercedes]

In the Aviation world, we call such an event "deferred maintenance"
which translates as "it won't fall out of the sky before we can fix it
somewhere there are tools and equipment to get it done."

Drive it to where ever you have power and a welder, jackstand said
offending corner of the car, remove wheel, weld nut, remove stud...
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> Excellent advice.  Now I need to get a welder ($$) and learn how to use it
> (time).  Oh, and the barn will need the power turned back on ($$).  There
> probably aren't any 220V outlets so I will need to get into the box to wire
> something up ($$, time).
>
> Or maybe I will just leave it until I might really need to deal with it.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 6/14/17 7:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> I have had incredible success with welding a nut on a broken bolt using a
>> wire feed welder with the nut held in position with pliers and the wire
>> inserted inside the nut so the weld is captured within the nut. Then pull
>> the weld trigger and make a weld puddle inside the nut.
>>
>> I've used this trick on broken bolts that were overhead and in impossible
>> positions to drill. So far.. the welding heat traveled down the broken
>> seized bolt and broke the rust bond on the threads allowing the bolt to be
>> turned out with a socket on the "new nut".
>>
>> One trick that really seems to help is a quick quench with water while the
>> weld is still glowing hot. Seems to shrink the bolt in place and break the
>> bond better.
>>
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>> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> On 14/06/2017 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
>>> This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to
 get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which will
 be
 after I get it running, if I get it running.

 --FT

 Sounds like a good opportunity to weld a nut on the end and use that to

>>> turn it out.
>>> Heat from the weld will loosen the threads as well.
>>> More difficult to do if the bolt is broken off below the surface but
>>> should be fairly easy if it is flush.
>>>
>>> RB
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

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When I was first starting out in the working world in he early 1980s and the 
token “shop boy” running around looking for buckets of prop wash, I was given 
the chance to paint the cab of a big old International flat bed truck we had.  
I think we got it from a customer who couldn’t pay us for something and ended 
up giving us the truck to settle a bill.  It wasn’t in bad shape at all, just 
really weathered.

I think I got elected to paint it because I had a professional paint gun that 
had been my Dad’s.

It got painted sort of a Ford engine blue.  Turned out pretty well, as the 
surface was good and required little prep.  I spent a long time masking and 
prepping before painting it.  Single stage acrylic, I believe.

When I went back into business with the same guys in 2008, the truck was still 
there and the paint was intact.  So I guess that says something for my painting 
skills…

-D

 
> On Jun 15, 2017, at 1:18 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The bottom line is that none of us are likely to become show car painters.
> But, if one is working on a bottom feeder beater, then the paint will likely 
> be better than it was and will provide enough film to better protect the 
> metal under it.
> 
> I painted a Mercury back in about 87. I struggled but it did not end up too 
> bad. I had the biggest issue with the hood. It was difficult to get a smooth 
> finish as I may not have overlapped enough. A bit of overspray left me with 
> sort of lines in the paint. It was a white car so did not look too bad unless 
> the light was right. The sides, roof and trunk turned out pretty decent. 
> Probably a good thing it was not a black car.
> 
> RB


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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The bottom line is that none of us are likely to become show car painters.
But, if one is working on a bottom feeder beater, then the paint will 
likely be better than it was and will provide enough film to better 
protect the metal under it.


I painted a Mercury back in about 87. I struggled but it did not end up 
too bad. I had the biggest issue with the hood. It was difficult to get 
a smooth finish as I may not have overlapped enough. A bit of overspray 
left me with sort of lines in the paint. It was a white car so did not 
look too bad unless the light was right. The sides, roof and trunk 
turned out pretty decent. Probably a good thing it was not a black car.


RB

On 15/06/2017 12:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s a good idea, I may try that.

I lump painting/bodywork and drywall/plastering as art forms.  Can I do it? 
Sure!  Are the results acceptable?  Rarely.

I have watched professional paint guys do their thing and have learned that 
learned that you never stop moving, you move in long strokes and go past the 
ends/sides of the work, and lighter coats are always better.  That being said, 
I don’t do it often enough to be well accomplished.

When the times comes that I have time to burn, say retirement time, I might be 
tempted to take a bodywork class at a local trade school for fun.

-D


On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

Spray paint is a matter of practice practice practice.
I've been painting lanterns for a few years now, I usually do one a year. The 
first couple took many attempts and didn't look great. These days I can spend 
less time and get a pretty good finish. The trick for me is to hold the can 
farther away than I think it needs to be and more more slowly than seems 
natural. I'm not sure why but the tendency is to flick the wrist which is 
completely wrong and results in not enough paint where you want it and too much 
at the edges.
Getting the spray can warm before painting is a big help, I soak it in a pot of 
hot water, it thins the paint and it applies much more smoothly.
-Curt




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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s a good idea, I may try that.

I lump painting/bodywork and drywall/plastering as art forms.  Can I do it? 
Sure!  Are the results acceptable?  Rarely.

I have watched professional paint guys do their thing and have learned that 
learned that you never stop moving, you move in long strokes and go past the 
ends/sides of the work, and lighter coats are always better.  That being said, 
I don’t do it often enough to be well accomplished.

When the times comes that I have time to burn, say retirement time, I might be 
tempted to take a bodywork class at a local trade school for fun.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Spray paint is a matter of practice practice practice.
> I've been painting lanterns for a few years now, I usually do one a year. The 
> first couple took many attempts and didn't look great. These days I can spend 
> less time and get a pretty good finish. The trick for me is to hold the can 
> farther away than I think it needs to be and more more slowly than seems 
> natural. I'm not sure why but the tendency is to flick the wrist which is 
> completely wrong and results in not enough paint where you want it and too 
> much at the edges.
> Getting the spray can warm before painting is a big help, I soak it in a pot 
> of hot water, it thins the paint and it applies much more smoothly.
> -Curt
> 
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Mayan Gold

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm looking forward to those pix!

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:37 AM, clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
> Pix will be posting on BW.
>
> link to follow
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Spray paint is a matter of practice practice practice.
I've been painting lanterns for a few years now, I usually do one a year. The 
first couple took many attempts and didn't look great. These days I can spend 
less time and get a pretty good finish. The trick for me is to hold the can 
farther away than I think it needs to be and more more slowly than seems 
natural. I'm not sure why but the tendency is to flick the wrist which is 
completely wrong and results in not enough paint where you want it and too much 
at the edges.
Getting the spray can warm before painting is a big help, I soak it in a pot of 
hot water, it thins the paint and it applies much more smoothly.
-Curt


  From: Donald Snook via Mercedes 
 To: Andrew Strasfogel ; Mercedes Discussion List 
 
Cc: Donald Snook 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:46 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] someone needs this
   
Skill, time, tools, attention to detail, 5 children (including a 6 year old), 
etc.  But, mostly skill.  I’m not even very good with spray paint.

Don Snook  (who knows his limitations)

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby ; Donald Snook 

Subject: Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

What's stopping you?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> wrote:
Beautiful car.  I can almost feel the tugging on my wallet from the 
maintenance/repair costs not to mention the increase in insurance.  It is an 
amazing car and it would be fun to drive it for the weekend!

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby 
[mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>
Subject: [MBZ] someone needs this

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html


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petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”



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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That is the first and most important thing, Donald.  Knowing when to walk away 
or call in a professional is one of the smartest things one can do.  It’s so 
much more messy and expensive otherwise…

And to add insult to injury, this is a W220 and one of the worst possible 
years.  I would buy a W140 V12 long before I would buy a W220 V12.  And even 
that would be stupid.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 11:46 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Skill, time, tools, attention to detail, 5 children (including a 6 year old), 
> etc.  But, mostly skill.  I’m not even very good with spray paint.
> 
> Don Snook  (who knows his limitations)
> 


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Re: [MBZ] A Somewhat Timely Video

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Pierre is a good guy and has probably forgotten more about older MBs that 
anyone else knows collectively.  He’s the only technical (MB) person who openly 
praises and accepts the early electronic ignitions as being well designed and 
worth operating, as opposed to putting a “Pertronix” or some other aftermarket 
unit in place of it.  When he told me this a while back I knew he was the real 
deal.

He is considered to be one of, if not the best technician there is on the older 
models.  He actually spends a fair amount of his time traveling around at 
owner’s expense to work on people’s cars.  Last time we talked he was coming to 
Tampa for the weekend to work on a couple of different cars for the owners.

Very personable guy, too.

-D


> On Jun 15, 2017, at 10:02 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I like this guy!  Might be worth moving down to FL to cultivate his
> expertise.
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPCddTn7shY=em
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Skill, time, tools, attention to detail, 5 children (including a 6 year old), 
etc.  But, mostly skill.  I’m not even very good with spray paint.

Don Snook  (who knows his limitations)

From: Andrew Strasfogel [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 10:44 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Floyd Thursby ; Donald Snook 

Subject: Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

What's stopping you?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
> wrote:
Beautiful car.  I can almost feel the tugging on my wallet from the 
maintenance/repair costs not to mention the increase in insurance.   It is an 
amazing car and it would be fun to drive it for the weekend!

Don Snook

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby 
[mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>
Subject: [MBZ] someone needs this

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html


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petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

What's stopping you?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:42 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Beautiful car.  I can almost feel the tugging on my wallet from the
> maintenance/repair costs not to mention the increase in insurance.   It is
> an amazing car and it would be fun to drive it for the weekend!
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:38 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] someone needs this
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html
>
>
> --
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> large or petty, never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
> the enemy.”
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Beautiful car.  I can almost feel the tugging on my wallet from the 
maintenance/repair costs not to mention the increase in insurance.   It is an 
amazing car and it would be fun to drive it for the weekend! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Floyd Thursby [mailto:buggeredbenzm...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:38 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] someone needs this

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”



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Re: [MBZ] Mayan Gold

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

That is really impressive! I have wondered if a rookie (like me) could ever 
successfully attempt paint work.   

ATTABOY! 

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: clay [mailto:redgh...@comcast.net] 
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:37 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List ; Harold Monroe 
; Alexander Monroe 
Subject: [MBZ] Mayan Gold

… is not the gold I thought it would be.  Very red, into orange.

Summit racing had a deal on single stage gold paint for $130/gal.  I was not 
interested in paying twice that for a two stage base and then getting clear as 
well.  But, I ended up ordering clear anyway, just in case.

So, Allen came to me in original MB gold for 1982.  Not sure the code, but the 
clear was trashed and there was much damage to paint as well as pitting and 
scratches.  I did not want to get crazy or go overboard in making the car a DD. 
 The paint would need attention, since the body and interior are in rather good 
form.  No rust at all, most systems working, spare parts came with the free 
car, engine runs and transmission shifts.  It was really just a bunch of PnP 
updating.

The paint. though, was another game altogether.  I had done rattle can on 
Polei, and that was not going to play for a DD.  I learned all the what not to 
do with that car.  A real gun spray was the only solution.  Would I send it out 
or do it my own self was the question.  I looked into cost for pro job as well 
as pro paint.  Maaco single stage was about the same cost as a gallon of base 
coat, but I did not want to pay that much for a half donkey job. I am able to 
do that level for less.

Except, I ended up spending about what I would have paid them to do the job 
myself.

I had to source all my own tools and the prep items, which made for a pretty 
good chunk of change.  Upgrades to the compressor set up, guns, paint, prep 
items.  Then I needed a paint booth.  Rent one for a couple days, or ask mother 
if her garage might do?  The bottom feeder in me went with Mom’s two car garage.

Tape, staples, 7 mil visquine, a box fan, some furnace filters, old bedsheets, 
a heater, a pair of Ikea lights, paper suit, full face chemical respirator, and 
the paint stuff, and  I was good to go.  I spent most of the day setting up the 
paint area and masking off the car.  By the time I got it all put right, it was 
past dinner, but still light enough for a novice idiot to attempt a spray.

Turned out it was too dark to see properly and lighting is really key to being 
able to tell what you are doing.  Space is another thing you can never have 
enough of.  Wetting the floor is a very smart thing to do, otherwise your feet 
and socks end up stuck to the floor after a while.  The paper monkey suits are  
not built with sturdy zippers, so you have to tape yourself in and then do the 
pee-pee dance the rest of the spray and clean up, until you can escape.  If you 
remove all the dangly bits and extraneous matter, you are less likely to have 
bald spots or need to clean paint off things later.  Use a primer coat all over 
the car and do not attempt last minute spot fixes, as you will be fixing drips, 
runs and smears, as well as finding that the stuff below telegraphs.  Plastic 
is a crap wall and will ripple and flap, such that it contacts your freshest 
paint.  Somehow, a drip/drop will plop in the middle of your largest or least 
accessible horizontal surface.

The car came out looking good.  A veritable 15 footer if looked at in low 
light.  I am sure that I could have paid less for a class on how to do it 
properly, but I know I would not have learned as much that way. Should I do 
this again (which may be more likely than I am going to admit right now) I will 
rent the booth so that I have the best environment to do a poor execution.  It 
might just be worth $80 a day to be able to strip down the car, mask it well, 
and then take less than an hour to spray it in the best possible way I can.  
Then I can clean up at a bench instead of sitting on the cement patio in the 
dark, blindly trying to clean my gun.  The next morning, I can be fresh and 
carefully put the car all back together.  A person really does need to pretty 
much tear the thing apart so you can put paint in all the places it needs to be.

Pix will be posting on BW.

link to follow



clay 

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV POS 1987 SDL - 
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A pair of spoiled, frisky golden retrievers?

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 11:35 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> WOW!  How does someone destroy the interior like that?  An 83 with 200,000
> miles has only been driven 6,000 miles a year.  It should be in excellent
> condition.  This is shameful.  The 300CD is such a handsome car usually.
>
> Don Snook
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:11 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Subject: [MBZ] coupe for Rick
>
> https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6163291067.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

WOW!  How does someone destroy the interior like that?  An 83 with 200,000 
miles has only been driven 6,000 miles a year.  It should be in excellent 
condition.  This is shameful.  The 300CD is such a handsome car usually.  

Don Snook 

-Original Message-
From: Curley McLain [mailto:126die...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 10:11 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

https://dallas.craigslist.org/ftw/cto/6163291067.html



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Re: [MBZ] Not quite up to Martha standards

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

DB 226 is moss green.  I had a moss green 111 coupe - different color
entirely.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I believe it is original
>
> http://www.heckflosse.nl/excol4.htm
> perhaps DB226
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> June 15, 2017 at 8:58 AM
>> If that's an OEM Benz color I'd like to know what it's called. Very
>> pretty.
>>
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[MBZ] Secret message for Andrew WUZ: Not quite up to Martha standards

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

http://www.paintscratch.com/touch_up_paint/Mercedes-Benz/1964-Mercedes-Benz-All-Models-Moss-Green-DB-226.html

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Re: [MBZ] Not quite up to Martha standards

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I believe it is original

http://www.heckflosse.nl/excol4.htm
perhaps DB226


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
June 15, 2017 at 8:58 AM
If that's an OEM Benz color I'd like to know what it's called. Very 
pretty.




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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

110v welder, I think I paid $250 for my Lincoln Handy Mig. Someday I'll get a 
bottle of gas for it, for now flux core is usable. Also at some point I'll get 
a sub panel in my garage so I've got a proper circuit to run it off of. Right 
now if I weld more than about 1 minute straight the breaker trips.
For your purposes a 3kw generator would suit.

-Curt


  From: Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Floyd Thursby 
 Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 7:54 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt
   
Excellent advice.  Now I need to get a welder ($$) and learn how to use 
it (time).  Oh, and the barn will need the power turned back on ($$).  
There probably aren't any 220V outlets so I will need to get into the 
box to wire something up ($$, time).

Or maybe I will just leave it until I might really need to deal with it.

--FT


On 6/14/17 7:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> I have had incredible success with welding a nut on a broken bolt using a
> wire feed welder with the nut held in position with pliers and the wire
> inserted inside the nut so the weld is captured within the nut. Then pull
> the weld trigger and make a weld puddle inside the nut.
>
> I've used this trick on broken bolts that were overhead and in impossible
> positions to drill. So far.. the welding heat traveled down the broken
> seized bolt and broke the rust bond on the threads allowing the bolt to be
> turned out with a socket on the "new nut".
>
> One trick that really seems to help is a quick quench with water while the
> weld is still glowing hot. Seems to shrink the bolt in place and break the
> bond better.
>
> Good luck. Play safe.
>
> 
> Virus-free.
> www.avast.com
> 
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>
> On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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>> On 14/06/2017 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to
>>> get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which will be
>>> after I get it running, if I get it running.
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>> Sounds like a good opportunity to weld a nut on the end and use that to
>> turn it out.
>> Heat from the weld will loosen the threads as well.
>> More difficult to do if the bolt is broken off below the surface but
>> should be fairly easy if it is flush.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] A Somewhat Timely Video

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I like this guy!  Might be worth moving down to FL to cultivate his
expertise.

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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPCddTn7shY=em
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

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Is that a good year for the S600?  Seems like a cheap price to pay for
unbridled luxury.

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> Sorry, no bullet proof windows, no deal.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Winston Churchill:
> > “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small,
> > large or petty,
> > never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> > Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

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One of my favorites. Surprised the video isn't online.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:52 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> I had forgotten that sketch.  Very funny.
> 
>> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 9:38 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> The Vandals:
>> 
>> http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79avandals.phtml
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> >
>> > I was told once by a Canadian prospector with extensive bush experience
>> > that wolverines were Nature's vandals.
>> >
>> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
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>> >> Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
>> >> man!
>> >>
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[MBZ] A Somewhat Timely Video

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPCddTn7shY=em

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Re: [MBZ] Not quite up to Martha standards

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If that's an OEM Benz color I'd like to know what it's called.  Very pretty.

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 8:34 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> call me ablo espanol
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 6/14/17 11:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
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>>
>> https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6173396689.html
>>
>>
>> Or:  Why punctuation doesnt matter
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Re: [MBZ] 1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles - $1995

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Literary overkill.

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> An honest seller
>
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>
>
> On 6/14/17 9:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
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>>
>> 1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles -
>> http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6155104641.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

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I had forgotten that sketch.  Very funny.

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> The Vandals:
>
> http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79avandals.phtml
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>
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> >
> > On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 7:34 AM, Ed Booher via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
> >> man!
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

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The Vandals:

http://snltranscripts.jt.org/79/79avandals.phtml

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 9:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> I was told once by a Canadian prospector with extensive bush experience
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>> Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
>> man!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap radiators

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If he hit something again it might be time for the shoe leather express for 
awhile...
-Curt


  From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com 
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:30 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Cheap radiators
   
Well the cheap eBay radiator lasted less than  a week. Looks like the stupid 
boy may have hit something again because when I looked at the car the radiator 
was loose from the top clips and pushed back. It does not appear the fan 
contacted the radiator though as I don't see any damage. There is a huge stream 
pissing out near the top next to the passenger side tank. I can't tell for sure 
but depending on how long he drove it could have blown a head gasket. It did 
start right up and seems to run fine and I don't see any water in oil or oil in 
coolant. I guess I'm going to raise hell with the eBay guy and tell the kid he 
is going to have to pay for the real deal. I should have known better but was 
trying to save him money. 

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Re: [MBZ] MBCA survey

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I had a rather lengthy discussion about the MBCA and its history with Pierre 
Hedary a couple of weeks ago. Based on what he described to me I don't think 
you're going to see any changes.

-D

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> 
> I do believe I shall complete their survey (which arrived yesterday),
> hopefully there will be a "free form" entry for text.  Tilting at
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

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I was told once by a Canadian prospector with extensive bush experience
that wolverines were Nature's vandals.

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> Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
> man!
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[MBZ] MBCA survey

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I let my MBCA membership lapse years ago, after they killed the forum
(twice) and deleted every single post by Marshall Booth (RIP).

I do believe I shall complete their survey (which arrived yesterday),
hopefully there will be a "free form" entry for text.  Tilting at
windmills, but if they want to know, I'll be glad to tell 'em what I think
of their club.
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Re: [MBZ] Not quite up to Martha standards

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call me ablo espanol

--FT


On 6/14/17 11:13 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:


https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/6173396689.html


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Re: [MBZ] Mayan Gold

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Strong work.

--FT


On 6/15/17 1:37 AM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

… is not the gold I thought it would be.  Very red, into orange.

Summit racing had a deal on single stage gold paint for $130/gal.  I was not 
interested in paying twice that for a two stage base and then getting clear as 
well.  But, I ended up ordering clear anyway, just in case.

So, Allen came to me in original MB gold for 1982.  Not sure the code, but the 
clear was trashed and there was much damage to paint as well as pitting and 
scratches.  I did not want to get crazy or go overboard in making the car a DD. 
 The paint would need attention, since the body and interior are in rather good 
form.  No rust at all, most systems working, spare parts came with the free 
car, engine runs and transmission shifts.  It was really just a bunch of PnP 
updating.

The paint. though, was another game altogether.  I had done rattle can on 
Polei, and that was not going to play for a DD.  I learned all the what not to 
do with that car.  A real gun spray was the only solution.  Would I send it out 
or do it my own self was the question.  I looked into cost for pro job as well 
as pro paint.  Maaco single stage was about the same cost as a gallon of base 
coat, but I did not want to pay that much for a half donkey job. I am able to 
do that level for less.

Except, I ended up spending about what I would have paid them to do the job 
myself.

I had to source all my own tools and the prep items, which made for a pretty 
good chunk of change.  Upgrades to the compressor set up, guns, paint, prep 
items.  Then I needed a paint booth.  Rent one for a couple days, or ask mother 
if her garage might do?  The bottom feeder in me went with Mom’s two car garage.

Tape, staples, 7 mil visquine, a box fan, some furnace filters, old bedsheets, 
a heater, a pair of Ikea lights, paper suit, full face chemical respirator, and 
the paint stuff, and  I was good to go.  I spent most of the day setting up the 
paint area and masking off the car.  By the time I got it all put right, it was 
past dinner, but still light enough for a novice idiot to attempt a spray.

Turned out it was too dark to see properly and lighting is really key to being 
able to tell what you are doing.  Space is another thing you can never have 
enough of.  Wetting the floor is a very smart thing to do, otherwise your feet 
and socks end up stuck to the floor after a while.  The paper monkey suits are  
not built with sturdy zippers, so you have to tape yourself in and then do the 
pee-pee dance the rest of the spray and clean up, until you can escape.  If you 
remove all the dangly bits and extraneous matter, you are less likely to have 
bald spots or need to clean paint off things later.  Use a primer coat all over 
the car and do not attempt last minute spot fixes, as you will be fixing drips, 
runs and smears, as well as finding that the stuff below telegraphs.  Plastic 
is a crap wall and will ripple and flap, such that it contacts your freshest 
paint.  Somehow, a drip/drop will plop in the middle of your largest or least 
accessible horizontal surface.

The car came out looking good.  A veritable 15 footer if looked at in low 
light.  I am sure that I could have paid less for a class on how to do it 
properly, but I know I would not have learned as much that way. Should I do 
this again (which may be more likely than I am going to admit right now) I will 
rent the booth so that I have the best environment to do a poor execution.  It 
might just be worth $80 a day to be able to strip down the car, mask it well, 
and then take less than an hour to spray it in the best possible way I can.  
Then I can clean up at a bench instead of sitting on the cement patio in the 
dark, blindly trying to clean my gun.  The next morning, I can be fresh and 
carefully put the car all back together.  A person really does need to pretty 
much tear the thing apart so you can put paint in all the places it needs to be.

Pix will be posting on BW.

link to follow



clay

2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers








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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Sorry, no bullet proof windows, no deal.

-
Max
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On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 8:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html
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Re: [MBZ] someone needs this

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

And a bank account with at least five zeros.

-D

> On Jun 15, 2017, at 8:38 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html
> 
> 
> -- 
> --FT
> Winston Churchill:
> “Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large 
> or petty,
> never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
> Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
> enemy.”
> 
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[MBZ] someone needs this

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/6176895849.html


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Winston Churchill:
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petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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Re: [MBZ] 1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles - $1995

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

An honest seller

--FT


On 6/14/17 9:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1996 Mercedes E300 Diesel - 315,XXX miles -
http://kansascity.craigslist.org/cto/6155104641.html

via cPro for Craigslist
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/cPro-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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or petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”

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Re: [MBZ] buggered lug bolt

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Excellent advice.  Now I need to get a welder ($$) and learn how to use 
it (time).  Oh, and the barn will need the power turned back on ($$).  
There probably aren't any 220V outlets so I will need to get into the 
box to wire something up ($$, time).


Or maybe I will just leave it until I might really need to deal with it.

--FT


On 6/14/17 7:21 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I have had incredible success with welding a nut on a broken bolt using a
wire feed welder with the nut held in position with pliers and the wire
inserted inside the nut so the weld is captured within the nut. Then pull
the weld trigger and make a weld puddle inside the nut.

I've used this trick on broken bolts that were overhead and in impossible
positions to drill. So far.. the welding heat traveled down the broken
seized bolt and broke the rust bond on the threads allowing the bolt to be
turned out with a socket on the "new nut".

One trick that really seems to help is a quick quench with water while the
weld is still glowing hot. Seems to shrink the bolt in place and break the
bond better.

Good luck. Play safe.


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On Wed, Jun 14, 2017 at 2:46 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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On 14/06/2017 4:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:


This one sheared off basically flush, I can probably centerpunch it to
get a hole to start drilling if I ever need to deal with it, which will be
after I get it running, if I get it running.

--FT

Sounds like a good opportunity to weld a nut on the end and use that to

turn it out.
Heat from the weld will loosen the threads as well.
More difficult to do if the bolt is broken off below the surface but
should be fairly easy if it is flush.

RB


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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] coupe for Rick

[Ed Booher via Mercedes]

Did the owner let a wolverine loose in the car? I want a W123 coupe, but
man!

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