Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The Kienzle (sp?) clock is electric, not electronic.  Nothing uses
electrons in it but a solenoid and a switch.  The rest is all mechanical,
and, unlike the later electronic clocks in the same form factor, they're
easy to open.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] will these work on a 300td 82?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 23:45:49 -0400 Rick Hawkins via Mercedes
 wrote:

> will these work on a 300td 1982?
> 
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6012-H6014-H6015-H6024-7-White-Halo-LED-Diamond-Seal-Beam-Headlights-Pair-H4-/262635503006?hash=item3d264bbd9e:g:FHEAAOSwmmxW5lWy&vxp=mtr
> 

I ran it through their Compatibility checker and got:

-
Compatibility
Please choose your vehicle year, make and model for specific results.
Year  Make   ModelTrim Engine
1982  Mercedes-Benz  300TD  Base Wagon 4-Door  3.0L 3055CC I5 Diesel

This part is not compatible with 1982 Mercedes-Benz 300TD Base Wagon
4-Door 3.0L 3005CC l5 DIESEL SOHC Turbocharged.
-

Why it is not compatible, I cannot say. After all, isn't a 7" round
headlight a 7" round headlight?

Then again, when I tried to put some Cibié halogen headlights in our '72
220D/8, they fit, but the thickness of the part to be clamped by the
fastening ring was too thick and I had to improvise.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Question about A/C gauges

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Well, you could rig up a T and valves to cylinder and vac pump to hook 
to the center (yellow) hose.  In the old days,  you pulled a vacuum, 
closed the valves, unhooked the pump, then hook up the tank, blow the 
lines and proceed.


Probably the HVAC supply house will have a t/valves setup for sale.   
Now that I think about It, I have seen that on some of the pro's pump 
setups.



Craig via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 10:56 PM
On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:54:30 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
  wrote:


You hook refrigerent to the middle line. (Yellow)  Loosen the hose to
the charging valve, open the refrigerant vale a bit to blow the air,
tighten the hose connection, close the refr valve.  Open the low valve.
proceed


Oh. I thought one evacuated the line to the refrigerant before opening
the refrigerant valve and couldn't figure out how to do that with only
three hoses.




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Re: [MBZ] will these work on a 300td 82?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It appears they should.  Let us know how they work if you get some.  
They say they are 7" singles.  6012, I believe was the US number for 
sealed beams for 110, 123 and probably US 114/5



Rick Hawkins via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 10:45 PM
will these work on a 300td 1982?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6012-H6014-H6015-H6024-7-White-Halo-LED-Diamond-Seal-Beam-Headlights-Pair-H4-/262635503006?hash=item3d264bbd9e:g:FHEAAOSwmmxW5lWy&vxp=mtr


thanks,

xx rick
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Re: [MBZ] Question about A/C gauges

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The middle hose. When you have the tank or can connected I just loosen the hose 
slightly for a half a second to vent any air.

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> On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:44 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Some of the gauge/hose sets I have seen have three valves on the manifold
> and three hoses.
> 
> I presume one connects
> 
>- one hose to the low side,
>- one hose to the high side, and,
>- one hose to the vacuum pump
> 
> to evacuate the system.
> 
> How does one then connect the refrigerant cylinder to the system to add
> freon to it without introducing air somewhere.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Question about A/C gauges

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 04 Jul 2017 22:54:30 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You hook refrigerent to the middle line. (Yellow)  Loosen the hose to 
> the charging valve, open the refrigerant vale a bit to blow the air, 
> tighten the hose connection, close the refr valve.  Open the low valve. 
> proceed

Oh. I thought one evacuated the line to the refrigerant before opening
the refrigerant valve and couldn't figure out how to do that with only
three hoses.


Craig

> > Craig via Mercedes 
> > July 4, 2017 at 10:44 PM
> > Some of the gauge/hose sets I have seen have three valves on the
> > manifold and three hoses.
> >
> > I presume one connects
> >
> > - one hose to the low side,
> > - one hose to the high side, and,
> > - one hose to the vacuum pump
> >
> > to evacuate the system.
> >
> > How does one then connect the refrigerant cylinder to the system to
> > add freon to it without introducing air somewhere.

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Re: [MBZ] Question about A/C gauges

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You hook refrigerent to the middle line. (Yellow)  Loosen the hose to 
the charging valve, open the refrigerant vale a bit to blow the air, 
tighten the hose connection, close the refr valve.  Open the low valve. 
proceed



Craig via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 10:44 PM
Some of the gauge/hose sets I have seen have three valves on the manifold
and three hoses.

I presume one connects

- one hose to the low side,
- one hose to the high side, and,
- one hose to the vacuum pump

to evacuate the system.

How does one then connect the refrigerant cylinder to the system to add
freon to it without introducing air somewhere.


Craig



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[MBZ] will these work on a 300td 82?

[Rick Hawkins via Mercedes]

will these work on a 300td 1982?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/H6012-H6014-H6015-H6024-7-White-Halo-LED-Diamond-Seal-Beam-Headlights-Pair-H4-/262635503006?hash=item3d264bbd9e:g:FHEAAOSwmmxW5lWy&vxp=mtr


thanks,

xx rick
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[MBZ] Question about A/C gauges

[Craig via Mercedes]

Some of the gauge/hose sets I have seen have three valves on the manifold
and three hoses.

I presume one connects

- one hose to the low side,
- one hose to the high side, and,
- one hose to the vacuum pump

to evacuate the system.

How does one then connect the refrigerant cylinder to the system to add
freon to it without introducing air somewhere.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Whoo-Hoo!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Some e420 is pining for that 2.82 diff. It alone is worth more than $90.
Major performance improvement.

On Jul 4, 2017 6:39 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Uh, yeah, that would not be a good idea…
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'll bid $100 tomorrow.
> > If I win it, I'll have it delivered to Dan's driveway.
> > Mitch.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Whoo-Hoo!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Uh, yeah, that would not be a good idea…

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:35 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I'll bid $100 tomorrow.
> If I win it, I'll have it delivered to Dan's driveway. 
> Mitch. 
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Re: [MBZ] Whoo-Hoo!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I'll bid $100 tomorrow.
If I win it, I'll have it delivered to Dan's driveway. 
Mitch. 

> On July 4, 2017 at 8:29 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> https://www.copart.com/lot/31870427/
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Jul 4, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> > wrote:
> > 
> > The S420 auction ends at Coparts on Friday.  Someone finally bid something 
> > on it tonight - $90!
> > 
> > Guess this won’t be like a BAT auction.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Whoo-Hoo!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://www.copart.com/lot/31870427/

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The S420 auction ends at Coparts on Friday.  Someone finally bid something on 
> it tonight - $90!
> 
> Guess this won’t be like a BAT auction.
> 
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[MBZ] Whoo-Hoo!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The S420 auction ends at Coparts on Friday.  Someone finally bid something on 
it tonight - $90!

Guess this won’t be like a BAT auction.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] HF Bummer

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan asks:

>‎Does that set include hoses?

Yes. It's got hoses and valves . 


Rick
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Re: [MBZ] HF Bummer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hmm.  Good point,  Hadn’t thought about that.

Thanks!

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You may be able to buy just the valve at FLAPS.  It unscrews from the hose.
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> July 4, 2017 at 6:39 PM
>> Noticed the high side service valve that has the quick release for the port 
>> on my manifold gauge set was leaking while I was working on the 350SDL 
>> today. Nothing significant, but there was some wetness around the knob on 
>> the valve, and it was definitely AC oil.
>> 
>> Emailed HF about a replacement. Got a response in under 30 minutes (on a 
>> holiday?) Nothing available.
>> 
>> Poo. Now I have to buy another cheap Chinee manifold gauge set if I want to 
>> be able to check high side pressures.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not even an appearance as a "guest speaker?" to promote the book/neke expert


Mountain Man via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 6:49 PM

That is correct. But his latest book was just released. He talked a
little about that. You don't think he would do okiebenz, correct?
tin.manOkiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist. Many threads at
mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues. No problem
with those topics. They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
that might rival okiebenz.
tin.man



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Re: [MBZ] HF Bummer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can’t complain, because my HF set is easily five years old if not older, and 
I’ve definitely gotten a lot of use out of it.

Does that set include hoses?  I don’t see them.  I could just use the set from 
my HF gauges, they’re fine.

Looks like the service valves are down in the corner of the package?

Thanks!

Dan


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> wrote:
> 
> I was going to buy HF gauges years ago, but all the negative  reviews said‎ 
> they leak. I bought these five years ago (time flies) and I have loaned them 
> out (people seldom treat your stuff as well as you) and they still work fine. 
> My only complaint is I don't have a molded case for them. 
> 
> ‎https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001D003AS/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1
> 
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Re: [MBZ] HF Bummer

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

You may be able to buy just the valve at FLAPS.  It unscrews from the hose.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 6:39 PM
Noticed the high side service valve that has the quick release for the 
port on my manifold gauge set was leaking while I was working on the 
350SDL today. Nothing significant, but there was some wetness around 
the knob on the valve, and it was definitely AC oil.


Emailed HF about a replacement. Got a response in under 30 minutes (on 
a holiday?) Nothing available.


Poo. Now I have to buy another cheap Chinee manifold gauge set if I 
want to be able to check high side pressures.


-D


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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, he did.  But otherwise I don’t see him posting very often.

And no, I don’t see him participating here for a number of reasons.

-D



> On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:49 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> -D wrote:
>> I don’t see Jim posting there often.
> 
> That is correct.  But his latest book was just released.  He talked a
> little about that.  You don't think he would do okiebenz, correct?
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Max wrote:
> They need to mix in politics and guns, with some cooking and beer brewing.

Politics is verboten.  Guns is okay.
Cooking and beer brewing is fine.  In fact Chuck is the brewmaster at
North Coast Brewing.  Nice hefty craft beer.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] HF Bummer

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I was going to buy HF gauges years ago, but all the negative  reviews said‎ 
they leak. I bought these five years ago (time flies) and I have loaned them 
out (people seldom treat your stuff as well as you) and they still work fine. 
My only complaint is I don't have a molded case for them. 

‎https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001D003AS/ref=ya_aw_oh_bia_dp?ie=UTF8&psc=1

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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> I don’t see Jim posting there often.

That is correct.  But his latest book was just released.  He talked a
little about that.  You don't think he would do okiebenz, correct?
tin.man

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[MBZ] HF Bummer

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Noticed the high side service valve that has the quick release for the port on 
my manifold gauge set was leaking while I was working on the 350SDL today.  
Nothing significant, but there was some wetness around the knob on the valve, 
and it was definitely AC oil.

Emailed HF about a replacement.  Got a response in under 30 minutes (on a 
holiday?)  Nothing available.

Poo.  Now I have to buy another cheap Chinee manifold gauge set if I want to be 
able to check high side pressures.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Trust me, you’re not missing anything.  Today’s topics:

“Being retired”
“Question on mobile phones”
“Driving on treacherous roads”

I did see one MB related topic:

"Dirty drained engine oil” (Mobil 1 or dino juice?)

zz

-D




> On Jul 4, 2017, at 7:01 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I have several fake accounts subscribed but I have not bother to ready any of 
> their messages in years.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Not to mention homebuilts, smokin food, huntin, B52s and other military 
aircraft, a few war stories, etc.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 6:25 PM
They need to mix in politics and guns, with some cooking and beer brewing.


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[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

They need to mix in politics and guns, with some cooking and beer brewing.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On July 4, 2017 6:32:37 PM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
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>Yes, their subject matter is quite mundane.  Lots of threads about the
>weather.  I don’t see Jim posting there often.
>
>-D
>
>
>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Curley wrote:
>>> So we should invite him to the list.
>> 
>> Not gonna happen.
>> Jim is more straitlaced than Poos.
>> Okiebenz is offlimits, i.e. mercedeslist does not acknowledge its
>existence.
>> Okiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist.  Many threads at
>> mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
>> cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues.  No problem
>> with those topics.  They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
>> that might rival okiebenz.
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[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have several fake accounts subscribed but I have not bother to ready any of 
their messages in years.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 5:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yes, their subject matter is quite mundane.  Lots of threads about the 
> weather.  I don’t see Jim posting there often.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Curley wrote:
>>> So we should invite him to the list.
>> 
>> Not gonna happen.
>> Jim is more straitlaced than Poos.
>> Okiebenz is offlimits, i.e. mercedeslist does not acknowledge its existence.
>> Okiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist.  Many threads at
>> mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
>> cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues.  No problem
>> with those topics.  They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
>> that might rival okiebenz.
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Okiebenz is more the real world, working man sort of deal. The Hitler list is 
more cheese and caviar ala MBCA sort of deal. 

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> On Jul 4, 2017, at 5:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curley wrote:
>> So we should invite him to the list.
> 
> Not gonna happen.
> Jim is more straitlaced than Poos.
> Okiebenz is offlimits, i.e. mercedeslist does not acknowledge its existence.
> Okiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist.  Many threads at
> mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
> cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues.  No problem
> with those topics.  They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
> that might rival okiebenz.
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yes, their subject matter is quite mundane.  Lots of threads about the weather. 
 I don’t see Jim posting there often.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Curley wrote:
>> So we should invite him to the list.
> 
> Not gonna happen.
> Jim is more straitlaced than Poos.
> Okiebenz is offlimits, i.e. mercedeslist does not acknowledge its existence.
> Okiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist.  Many threads at
> mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
> cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues.  No problem
> with those topics.  They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
> that might rival okiebenz.
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Curley wrote:
> So we should invite him to the list.

Not gonna happen.
Jim is more straitlaced than Poos.
Okiebenz is offlimits, i.e. mercedeslist does not acknowledge its existence.
Okiebenz has a lower reader age than mercedeslist.  Many threads at
mercedeslist involve joint replacement, hearing aids, pain meds,
cataracts, and other more typically retired folk issues.  No problem
with those topics.  They have a depth of knowledge about the marque
that might rival okiebenz.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

So we should invite him to the list.  He could tell us how to move the 
small nukie plants forward.  Free Lektric for all!



Mountain Man via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 3:46 PM

Totally - big time author about Atomic things.
Atomic Adventures, Atomic Awakening, Atomic Accidents, Nuclear Power,
Nuclear Power, Nuclear Power, Nuclear Power.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Kaleb wrote:
> Is he still around?

Totally - big time author about Atomic things.
Atomic Adventures, Atomic Awakening, Atomic Accidents, Nuclear Power,
Nuclear Power, Nuclear Power, Nuclear Power.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

--FT wrote:
> Election hacking!  Election hacking!  Election hacking!

Who does that?
Rooskies!
Evidence?
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Andrew wrote:
> Or Russia.

For years, Chernobyl seems fascinating.  There are people that live in
the no-go zone.  Passive radiation treatment to stimulate body
dynamics...
Vlad doesn't sound half-bad... maybe?
Too many probable issues for me to ever consider in reality,
immunizations probably the biggest, etc.
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Election hacking!  Election hacking!  Election hacking!

--FT


On 7/4/17 2:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Or Russia.

On Jul 4, 2017 1:03 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:


Bunch'o' people I can thing of should go live in Venezuela for the rest of
their lives.  Let them live in their "paradise"

USA:  at 241 years old, just a toddler.




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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Or Russia.

On Jul 4, 2017 1:03 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> Bunch'o' people I can thing of should go live in Venezuela for the rest of
> their lives.  Let them live in their "paradise"
>
> USA:  at 241 years old, just a toddler.
>
>> Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>> July 4, 2017 at 11:06 AM
>> Happy Birthday America!
>>
>> Greg, who became a born again American by living in Canada for 5 years.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

I do not change it back and forth because I never drive the car in the 
winter.



On 04/07/2017 1:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
The self winding clocks are self adjusting.  Keep setting it back to 
the right time, and it should regulate itself after a few resets.


They are very elegant and wonderful clocks in parts of the world that 
did not succumb to the lunacy of "Daylight Savings Time"  I often just 
leave them on one time or the other to preserve the accuracy


If the battery was out of the car and it completely ran down, it may 
reset itself to as fast as it will go.  I am not sure if I ever 
heard.  I don't  know how the self correcting feature works. It is 
still possible the self correcting part is broken.  But, I'd reset it 
a few times and see if the error lessens.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
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76 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Must be all the heavy stuff you smuggle!  I never had any problem in my 
124 wagons with frame cracks.  Early frod vans,  (60s) yes.  Half 
million mile abused SDL, yes!



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 1:04 PM
Kaleb, here you go, plenty of reading if you click on the link to the 
whole

thread, this is just one post that details the issue:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1585861-post42.html

Looks like MB fixed the problem around 1989, so all the face-lift wagons
should be good.

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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The self winding clocks are self adjusting.  Keep setting it back to the 
right time, and it should regulate itself after a few resets.


They are very elegant and wonderful clocks in parts of the world that 
did not succumb to the lunacy of "Daylight Savings Time"  I often just 
leave them on one time or the other to preserve the accuracy


If the battery was out of the car and it completely ran down, it may 
reset itself to as fast as it will go.  I am not sure if I ever heard.  
I don't  know how the self correcting feature works.  It is still 
possible the self correcting part is broken.  But, I'd reset it a few 
times and see if the error lessens.



Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 11:58 AM
76 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Max! Donor W124 Wagon?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Kaleb, here you go, plenty of reading if you click on the link to the whole
thread, this is just one post that details the issue:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/1585861-post42.html

Looks like MB fixed the problem around 1989, so all the face-lift wagons
should be good.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 9:24 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have never heard of that before
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jul 3, 2017, at 7:46 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I prefer the upgrade in the later years, with the Euro lights and more
> > chrome, but another critical difference is the strengthened rear subframe
> > mounts.  Early years were prone to cracking (my '87 wagon has these
> cracks)
> > but that steel was thicker/stronger in later years.  I need to dig up the
> > research to find out what year that happened, but I am pretty sure it was
> > in place by '93.
> >
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 7:07 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> He said he was looking for a 1995, but I don't know that a 1994 is any
> >> different, and it sounds like this one has ASD.
> >>
> >>> On July 3, 2017 at 6:24 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I can’t recall what you are looking for exactly, but I just saw this on
> >> BW:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/sale-wanted-trade-
> >> giveaway/2848562-1994-e320-wagon-dmv-maryland.html
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Can't see if that has 2 rows but if it says 4 pass I guess it does since 
each loop goes back and forth X2.  It looks like the retrofit on my car 
was done right, there is a sticker there and everything, so maybe I can 
get by with just the compressor and flush, etc. though it was starting 
to leak down.  Rings?  It BLEW ICE COLD before it gakked.


--FT


On 7/4/17 1:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This is what I put in:

http://www.klimakit.com/product/parallel-flow-condenser-upgrade-kit-w126/ 


If your condenser fittings are at the upper right corner looking at the car 
from the front, this fits.  You can probably find one of these for less from 
some of the hot rod AC retrofit places, but you would have to fabricate your 
own brackets.

-D



On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

SO I was looking at the condenser in the SD that the compressor munched on and 
it has 2 rows of tubes -- is that standard or like the one you put in?

--FT


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“Never give in--never, never, never, never, in nothing great or small, large or 
petty,
never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This is what I put in:

http://www.klimakit.com/product/parallel-flow-condenser-upgrade-kit-w126/ 


If your condenser fittings are at the upper right corner looking at the car 
from the front, this fits.  You can probably find one of these for less from 
some of the hot rod AC retrofit places, but you would have to fabricate your 
own brackets.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:50 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SO I was looking at the condenser in the SD that the compressor munched on 
> and it has 2 rows of tubes -- is that standard or like the one you put in?
> 
> --FT
> 

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Re: [MBZ] 560SEL STEAL for Andrew

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

He's up in PVD now and bought a boring CRV that the rats ate the FI 
cable on and left a bag of chocolates on the manifold.  That was an 
expensive repair, I think he got some insurance payment for it.


--FT


On 7/4/17 1:49 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Wow, fantastic deal, but a boring color so I doubt Andrew will take it.

Rich - you should have your son snag that, you need this model to round out
your collection of 126 cars.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Right in your back yard.  He’s down to $1200.  You can’t skip a deal like
this.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/
2749377-clean-1990-560-sel-178k-odo.html#post15352065 <
http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/
2749377-clean-1990-560-sel-178k-odo.html#post15352065>

-D

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never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.
Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That a boy, Max.  My ability to fix stuff saves lots and allows me to justify 
spending money on cars….

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Speaking of which, I was marveling this a.m. about how I fixed our in-wall
> microwave with a $10 fuse, thanks to Jim's help and his sharing this
> website:
> 
> http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/micfaq.htm
> 
> Which led me to this one, another gem:
> 
> http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tshoot.htm
> 
> Replacement costs for a built-in-wall combination microwave / oven start at
> about $1500 and go up.  Avoiding that cost, I've got a lot more money for
> cheap MBs...
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 


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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

SO I was looking at the condenser in the SD that the compressor munched 
on and it has 2 rows of tubes -- is that standard or like the one you 
put in?


--FT


On 7/4/17 11:06 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s the whole idea behind the parallel flow condenser in a (former) R12 
system.  The stock condenser is a single pass condenser and doesn’t have enough 
surface area for R134a to properly condense.  The stock condenser has a very 
different internal design which is ineffective for R134a to condense, so in a 
conversion you’re getting both gas and liquid out of the (stock) condenser.  
The parallel flow (four pass versus the stock single pass) is about 30% more 
efficient than the stock condenser with R134a, and typical of current designs 
for R134a systems.

-D




On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Do you think the new condenser is better suited to 134 than 12?

--FT



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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

There's a repair technique I hadn't considered, irradiation

-
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Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 1:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yup.  Little solenoid inside that “kicks” the spring to wind it.  Near
> impossible to disassemble without damage.
>
> Send to Jim Mahaffey in Atlanta for rebuilding or irradiation.
>
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sure is.  Just ordered a copy of his latest book:

https://smile.amazon.com/dp/1681774216/_encoding=UTF8?coliid=I1P1KIQDTJZR31&colid=3581QJB5T4CDE
 


Don’t know if he still fixes clocks, though.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Is he still around?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yup.  Little solenoid inside that “kicks” the spring to wind it.  Near 
>> impossible to disassemble without damage.
>> 
>> Send to Jim Mahaffey in Atlanta for rebuilding or irradiation.
>> 
>> That’s why I asked.
>> 
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] 560SEL STEAL for Andrew

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Wow, fantastic deal, but a boring color so I doubt Andrew will take it.

Rich - you should have your son snag that, you need this model to round out
your collection of 126 cars.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Right in your back yard.  He’s down to $1200.  You can’t skip a deal like
> this.
>
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/
> 2749377-clean-1990-560-sel-178k-odo.html#post15352065 <
> http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/
> 2749377-clean-1990-560-sel-178k-odo.html#post15352065>
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Is he still around?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:21 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yup.  Little solenoid inside that “kicks” the spring to wind it.  Near 
> impossible to disassemble without damage.
> 
> Send to Jim Mahaffey in Atlanta for rebuilding or irradiation.
> 
> That’s why I asked.
> 
> 
>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 115  Self winding
>> 
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> July 4, 2017 at 12:08 PM
>>> W123 or W116?
>>> 
>>> I believe it’s an electrical clock - if so, there are capacitors to 
>>> replace. Pretty straightforward repair.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Speaking of which, I was marveling this a.m. about how I fixed our in-wall
microwave with a $10 fuse, thanks to Jim's help and his sharing this
website:

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/micfaq.htm

Which led me to this one, another gem:

http://www.repairfaq.org/sam/tshoot.htm

Replacement costs for a built-in-wall combination microwave / oven start at
about $1500 and go up.  Avoiding that cost, I've got a lot more money for
cheap MBs...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew sez:
>
> >World's shortest list: Problems Dan can 't >solve.
>
> Or Jaime, or Peter Frederick, or Jim, or
>
> We have more than several very intelligent, informed persons on this list,
> ready to share their knowledge and experience with a simple inquiry.
> Listening to said advice and implementing it, for some of us, is quite
> difficult it seems sometimes
>
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

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115


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 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-07-04  12:08 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
List  Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: Re: 
[MBZ] clock? 
W123 or W116?

I believe it’s an electrical clock - if so, there are capacitors to replace. 
Pretty straightforward repair.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 76 300D
> 
> On 04/07/2017 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> What car?
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just recently. It 
>>> now gains time.
>>> 
>>> I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? Is 
>>> there a relatively easy fix?
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yup.  Little solenoid inside that “kicks” the spring to wind it.  Near 
impossible to disassemble without damage.

Send to Jim Mahaffey in Atlanta for rebuilding or irradiation.

That’s why I asked.


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 1:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 115  Self winding
> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> July 4, 2017 at 12:08 PM
>> W123 or W116?
>> 
>> I believe it’s an electrical clock - if so, there are capacitors to replace. 
>> Pretty straightforward repair.
>> 
>> -D
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

115  Self winding


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 12:08 PM
W123 or W116?

I believe it’s an electrical clock - if so, there are capacitors to 
replace. Pretty straightforward repair.


-D




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July 4, 2017 at 11:58 AM
76 300D




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Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 11:56 AM
What car?



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Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 11:55 AM
The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just 
recently. It now gains time.


I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? 
Is there a relatively easy fix?




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[MBZ] 560SEL STEAL for Andrew

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Right in your back yard.  He’s down to $1200.  You can’t skip a deal like this.

http://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/2749377-clean-1990-560-sel-178k-odo.html#post15352065
 


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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

W123 or W116?

I believe it’s an electrical clock - if so, there are capacitors to replace. 
Pretty straightforward repair.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 76 300D
> 
> On 04/07/2017 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> What car?
>> 
>>> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just recently. It 
>>> now gains time.
>>> 
>>> I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? Is 
>>> there a relatively easy fix?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Bunch'o' people I can thing of should go live in Venezuela for the rest 
of their lives.  Let them live in their "paradise"


USA:  at 241 years old, just a toddler.

Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 11:06 AM
Happy Birthday America!

Greg, who became a born again American by living in Canada for 5 years.


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[MBZ] Rock Auto Discount Code

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

6526921633575605

Good for 5% off your order.  Can be used multiple times until September 3, 
2017.  Enter the code above in the "How Did You Hear About Us?" space on the 
checkout page (above your payment information).

-D
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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

76 300D

On 04/07/2017 11:56 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

What car?


On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  
wrote:

The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just recently. It now 
gains time.

I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? Is there 
a relatively easy fix?



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Re: [MBZ] clock?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

What car?

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:55 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just recently. It 
> now gains time.
> 
> I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? Is 
> there a relatively easy fix?
> 
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[MBZ] clock?

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

The clock in my car has always kept perfect time - until just recently. 
It now gains time.


I think I recall something about issues with capacitors. Am I correct? 
Is there a relatively easy fix?




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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thank you, Rick.  There’s nothing magical or unique about repairing cars or 
anything else, for that matter.  It just takes time, initiative and tools.

Plenty of far more skilled folks in this group than I.

-D


> On Jul 4, 2017, at 12:23 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
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> Andrew sez:
> 
>> World's shortest list: Problems Dan can 't >solve.
> 
> Or Jaime, or Peter Frederick, or Jim, or
> 
> We have more than several very intelligent, informed persons on this list, 
> ready to share their knowledge and experience with a simple inquiry. 
> Listening to said advice and implementing it, for some of us, is quite 
> difficult it seems sometimes
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Andrew sez:

>World's shortest list: Problems Dan can 't >solve.

Or Jaime, or Peter Frederick, or Jim, or

We have more than several very intelligent, informed persons on this list, 
ready to share their knowledge and experience with a simple inquiry. Listening 
to said advice and implementing it, for some of us, is quite difficult it seems 
sometimes

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

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Happy Birthday America!

Greg, who became a born again American by living in Canada for 5 years.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2017 7:35 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

Ponder how you can make your life more independent.

Hooray for the Red, White and Blue!

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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

Must have been the prev owner... thought it was just the headrest that was
swapped! Good eyes 👀


On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:33 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Looks good. I assume you swapped out the drivers seat with one from a
> newer car?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM Darren Marshall 
> > wrote:
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> >> The color is very unique, I think it helps diffuse situations when
> others
> >> hear you coming. It comes off very friendly when lots of these around
> town
> >> are dark blue with poorly tinted windows.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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>  Typical Craigslist only 1 photo ad.
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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

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Looks good. I assume you swapped out the drivers seat with one from a newer car?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:15 AM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes 
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> Added a bunch of photos.
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> https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/6199917417.html
> 
> On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM Darren Marshall 
> wrote:
> 
>> The color is very unique, I think it helps diffuse situations when others
>> hear you coming. It comes off very friendly when lots of these around town
>> are dark blue with poorly tinted windows.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> But very CUTE!  :)
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Typical Craigslist only 1 photo ad.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
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Re: [MBZ] Less than pristine 1978 240D on BAT

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You should talk to them about setting up an “Okie Benz” section for bottom 
feeders.  “Stupid cars at stupid prices”.

-D



> On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> That car is a turd. I guess they are lowering their standards now. I have got 
> to get some cars listed there. 
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Re: [MBZ] Less than pristine 1978 240D on BAT

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That car is a turd. I guess they are lowering their standards now. I have got 
to get some cars listed there. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:08 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> This 240D has some startling imperfections to challenge the limits of an
> insane market.
> 
> http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-mercedes-benz-240d-5/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-07-04h
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

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Because there is no “proper charge” in a conversion.  The best way is to work 
off pressures and temperatures.

If you look around you’ll see percentages of R12 to R134a running from 70%-95% 
suggested for converted systems.

-D
 
> On Jul 4, 2017, at 11:22 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> Holy crap man, why didn't you just put in the proper charge at the get go and 
> be done with it?
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

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Holy crap man, why didn't you just put in the proper charge at the get go and 
be done with it?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 4, 2017, at 9:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some observations after a drive this morning:
> 
> 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures.  Note that I only filled the system 
> to about 60-70% initially.  I’ll continue to sneak up on the refrigerant fill 
> as I continue to drive and the ambients get higher - it will be in the 90s 
> today, for sure.
> 
> While it’s difficult to nail it down to any particular component, I have to 
> believe the parallel flow contributes significantly to the efficiency of the 
> system.  I say that because with the original condenser the cooling capacity 
> would drop off noticeably at idle or when the vehicle was stopped.  During my 
> drive today I noticed no difference in vent temperatures at idle to when 
> stopped.
> 
> I’ll continue to observe and report as I drive the car more.  Tomorrow is a 
> work day and means that I’ll be doing my normal commute at both surface 
> street and highway speeds.  All I all I’m very pleased with the way things 
> are working at this point. As I see how well the system cools at higher 
> ambients I’ll continue to add refrigerant in small amounts.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

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Added a bunch of photos.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/6199917417.html

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 8:31 AM Darren Marshall 
wrote:

> The color is very unique, I think it helps diffuse situations when others
> hear you coming. It comes off very friendly when lots of these around town
> are dark blue with poorly tinted windows.
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 7:59 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> But very CUTE!  :)
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s the whole idea behind the parallel flow condenser in a (former) R12 
system.  The stock condenser is a single pass condenser and doesn’t have enough 
surface area for R134a to properly condense.  The stock condenser has a very 
different internal design which is ineffective for R134a to condense, so in a 
conversion you’re getting both gas and liquid out of the (stock) condenser.  
The parallel flow (four pass versus the stock single pass) is about 30% more 
efficient than the stock condenser with R134a, and typical of current designs 
for R134a systems.

-D



> On Jul 4, 2017, at 10:27 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> Do you think the new condenser is better suited to 134 than 12?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 4 Jul 2017 09:38:36 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No, Austin (containment area for liberals) complains about the rest of 
> Texas.

Austin: 90 square miles surrounded by reality.


Craig
(who attended the University of Texas at Austin)

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[MBZ] Happy Independence Day!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ponder how you can make your life more independent.

Hooray for the Red, White and Blue!

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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

GOOD info!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
July 4, 2017 at 9:02 AM
Some observations after a drive this morning:

74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures. Note that I only filled the 
system to about 60-70% initially. I’ll continue to sneak up on the 
refrigerant fill as I continue to drive and the ambients get higher - 
it will be in the 90s today, for sure.


While it’s difficult to nail it down to any particular component, I 
have to believe the parallel flow contributes significantly to the 
efficiency of the system. I say that because with the original 
condenser the cooling capacity would drop off noticeably at idle or 
when the vehicle was stopped. During my drive today I noticed no 
difference in vent temperatures at idle to when stopped.


I’ll continue to observe and report as I drive the car more. Tomorrow 
is a work day and means that I’ll be doing my normal commute at both 
surface street and highway speeds. All I all I’m very pleased with the 
way things are working at this point. As I see how well the system 
cools at higher ambients I’ll continue to add refrigerant in small 
amounts.


-D



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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do you think the new condenser is better suited to 134 than 12?

--FT


On 7/4/17 10:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Some observations after a drive this morning:

74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures.  Note that I only filled the system to 
about 60-70% initially.  I’ll continue to sneak up on the refrigerant fill as I 
continue to drive and the ambients get higher - it will be in the 90s today, 
for sure.

While it’s difficult to nail it down to any particular component, I have to 
believe the parallel flow contributes significantly to the efficiency of the 
system.  I say that because with the original condenser the cooling capacity 
would drop off noticeably at idle or when the vehicle was stopped.  During my 
drive today I noticed no difference in vent temperatures at idle to when 
stopped.

I’ll continue to observe and report as I drive the car more.  Tomorrow is a 
work day and means that I’ll be doing my normal commute at both surface street 
and highway speeds.  All I all I’m very pleased with the way things are working 
at this point. As I see how well the system cools at higher ambients I’ll 
continue to add refrigerant in small amounts.

-D


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petty,
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Never yield to force; never yield to the apparently overwhelming might of the 
enemy.”


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[MBZ] Less than pristine 1978 240D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This 240D has some startling imperfections to challenge the limits of an
insane market.

http://bringatrailer.com/listing/1978-mercedes-benz-240d-5/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2017-07-04h
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

World's shortest list:  Problems Dan can 't solve.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 10:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Some observations after a drive this morning:
>
> 74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures.  Note that I only filled the
> system to about 60-70% initially.  I’ll continue to sneak up on the
> refrigerant fill as I continue to drive and the ambients get higher - it
> will be in the 90s today, for sure.
>
> While it’s difficult to nail it down to any particular component, I have
> to believe the parallel flow contributes significantly to the efficiency of
> the system.  I say that because with the original condenser the cooling
> capacity would drop off noticeably at idle or when the vehicle was
> stopped.  During my drive today I noticed no difference in vent
> temperatures at idle to when stopped.
>
> I’ll continue to observe and report as I drive the car more.  Tomorrow is
> a work day and means that I’ll be doing my normal commute at both surface
> street and highway speeds.  All I all I’m very pleased with the way things
> are working at this point. As I see how well the system cools at higher
> ambients I’ll continue to add refrigerant in small amounts.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Fuel Mileage Premium v. Regular Experiment

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not to mention that the gasoline ruins the taste in my martinis.

On Tue, Jul 4, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since ethanol has been added for gasoline as an oxygen carrier for more
> than 40 years, it's not very likely that it causes damage to fuel systems
> unless they are very poorly designed (take note GM, this isn't 1955, eh?)
>
> Flex fuel vehicles can run on 85% ethanol, most "non flexfuel" vehicles
> computers and injection systems will not deliver enough fuel to run  on
> gasoline with more than 15% or so -- ethanol is less dense, has much more
> oxygen, so a larger volume of fuel is required for proper combustion.
>
> The real problem with ethanol is that it accelerates oxidative degradation
> of gasoline, and the resultant mess is what eats fuel system parts,
> particularly mild organic acids.  Use fuel stabilizer if it's going to sit
> very long.
>
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] W126 AC Rebuild

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Some observations after a drive this morning:

74F ambient, 55F-60F vent temperatures.  Note that I only filled the system to 
about 60-70% initially.  I’ll continue to sneak up on the refrigerant fill as I 
continue to drive and the ambients get higher - it will be in the 90s today, 
for sure.

While it’s difficult to nail it down to any particular component, I have to 
believe the parallel flow contributes significantly to the efficiency of the 
system.  I say that because with the original condenser the cooling capacity 
would drop off noticeably at idle or when the vehicle was stopped.  During my 
drive today I noticed no difference in vent temperatures at idle to when 
stopped.

I’ll continue to observe and report as I drive the car more.  Tomorrow is a 
work day and means that I’ll be doing my normal commute at both surface street 
and highway speeds.  All I all I’m very pleased with the way things are working 
at this point. As I see how well the system cools at higher ambients I’ll 
continue to add refrigerant in small amounts.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Okie Acres Miami?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

No, Austin (containment area for liberals) complains about the rest of 
Texas.


--FT


On 7/3/17 11:10 PM, fmiser via Mercedes wrote:

Does Houston and Dallas/Fort Worth do the same for the rest of
Texas?


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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

The color is very unique, I think it helps diffuse situations when others
hear you coming. It comes off very friendly when lots of these around town
are dark blue with poorly tinted windows.

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> But very CUTE!  :)
>
> On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:27 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Typical Craigslist only 1 photo ad.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:23 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/6199917417.html
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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

Palomino I think? I'll get more pics on the ad today.

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> What color is the inteior?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 1, 2017, at 10:57 AM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Things have been slow over here and need the space and the cash. Sold the
> > 280se about a month ago.
> >
> > Hope to move it in the next few days. It's parked at the end of my street
> > in the city, I'll be in the burbs until tomorrow but if anyone on the
> list
> > wants to come check her out, just holler.
> >
> >
> https://post.craigslist.org/k/kKklmP1d5xGYVxvZrhYBeA/isizy?lang=en&cc=us&s=preview
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Re: [MBZ] Listed my green '77 240D on CL

[Darren Marshall via Mercedes]

No, I'm up by Western/Diversey!

On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 11:03 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> Is the address on your driver’s license 1040 West Addison?
>
> Dan not currently at Bob’s Country Bunker
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 1, 2017, at 11:57 AM, Darren Marshall via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Things have been slow over here and need the space and the cash. Sold the
> > 280se about a month ago.
> >
> > Hope to move it in the next few days. It's parked at the end of my street
> > in the city, I'll be in the burbs until tomorrow but if anyone on the
> list
> > wants to come check her out, just holler.
> >
> >
> https://post.craigslist.org/k/kKklmP1d5xGYVxvZrhYBeA/isizy?lang=en&cc=us&s=preview
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