Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

My God son retired from the Marine Corp 2 years ago as a Lt.Col. He flew 
Hercy Birds

all of his career except the time he was Air Attache in Indonesia.
The jar heads use the for everything that needs to be moved and air to 
air refueling.
He now works for an outfit in Va. Referbs them for our military and 
other countries.
Last time I talked to him he had just returned from Japan after he 
delivered on to the JADF.


Russ

On Sat,11/25/17 23:02, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017 22:30:27 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:

They are still in very active service in the regular Air Force, too. A
friend of ours recently graduated from secondary pilot training on
M-130s (a C-130 variant) at Kirtland AFB in Albuquerque and is now
stationed at Cannon AFB in Clovis, NM, for black ops duty with the plane.

http://www.af.mil/About-Us/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/104517/c-130-hercules/
has a lot of information about the aircraft.


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Amazing statistics - 4 killed, 200 injured.  Unprecedented ratio.

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 5:53 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Regular speed, but a large aircraft tumbles slowly. Watch them all.
>
> Rick
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>
>
> Rick wrote:
> > ‎...
>
> Is one of these the slo-mo Peter mentioned?
> Thanks.
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Re: [MBZ] The Earth is Flat

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Yeah, I pulled a few strings, called in a few chits.

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> Was that you that cancelled this vital launch, Andrew?
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

I sent an email to Palo Alto Speedometer an hour ago requesting additional 
information and they replied already (Sunday night...I am impressed!).  
Unfortunately they do not service my speedometer but recommended 
www.fastoem.com.  Away went another email, stay tuned.



-Original Message-
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Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

Where to send it depends on where you are, and your preferences.  Palo 
Alto Speedometer has been an MBCA advertiser for over 40 years.  
Probably not the cheapest.  MacDan likes performa, as they are in his 
neck of the woods.  There are other companies who advertise in the Star 
too.  I can look them up if you want or I think you can get advertiser 
info from the MBCA.org website.

Or there is Car-part.com for a used one to use; or to use while yours is 
repaired; or to send in and get it reset to match the mileage on the one 
going bad, then install.
> Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
> November 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
> Hi All,
>
>
> I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K. The 
> car has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for 
> the past 3 months while my house undergoes some renovation work. I 
> decided to use it the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting 
> pinkish random lines that are progressively getting longer.
>
>
> I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with 
> the W211 instrument cluster. I will try to attach a picture to show 
> the problem. Any help would be appreciated including any companies 
> that might repair the cluster. I have a feeling the issue will get 
> progressively worse until it is no longer readable.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Thanks for the info guys.  I just sent out a couple of emails requisition 
further information and pricing.  I will search out a few  more vendors and 
report back my results.  More feedback is always welcome.


Bob



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Sent: Sun, Nov 26, 2017 7:41 pm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

Where to send it depends on where you are, and your preferences.  Palo 
Alto Speedometer has been an MBCA advertiser for over 40 years.  
Probably not the cheapest.  MacDan likes performa, as they are in his 
neck of the woods.  There are other companies who advertise in the Star 
too.  I can look them up if you want or I think you can get advertiser 
info from the MBCA.org website.

Or there is Car-part.com for a used one to use; or to use while yours is 
repaired; or to send in and get it reset to match the mileage on the one 
going bad, then install.
> Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
> November 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
> Hi All,
>
>
> I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K. The 
> car has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for 
> the past 3 months while my house undergoes some renovation work. I 
> decided to use it the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting 
> pinkish random lines that are progressively getting longer.
>
>
> I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with 
> the W211 instrument cluster. I will try to attach a picture to show 
> the problem. Any help would be appreciated including any companies 
> that might repair the cluster. I have a feeling the issue will get 
> progressively worse until it is no longer readable.
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Looks like it has a virus growing in it!


Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
November 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Hi All,


I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K. The 
car has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for 
the past 3 months while my house undergoes some renovation work. I 
decided to use it the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting 
pinkish random lines that are progressively getting longer.



I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with 
the W211 instrument cluster. I will try to attach a picture to show 
the problem. Any help would be appreciated including any companies 
that might repair the cluster. I have a feeling the issue will get 
progressively worse until it is no longer readable.



Thanks


Bob K



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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oops!  Sorry, I got mixed up.   I thought you liked them and had used them.


Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
November 26, 2017 at 6:45 PM
I do not like Performa. The only time I’ve used them is to sell them 
cores. They’re turnaround is not great and neither are their prices. I 
use BBA Reman for my stuff when possible. They were the only place 
that could fix/rebuild my R129 top controller - everyone else, 
including Performa, wanted to “look” at it and charge me a bench fee 
for the privilege.


BBA Reman did my 2002 W210 instrument cluster that was suffering from 
the bad pixel issue in under a week. I think it was $110 plus $30 
shipping to cover both directions (they pay both ways.)


-D




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Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
November 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Hi All,


I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K. The 
car has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for 
the past 3 months while my house undergoes some renovation work. I 
decided to use it the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting 
pinkish random lines that are progressively getting longer.



I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with 
the W211 instrument cluster. I will try to attach a picture to show 
the problem. Any help would be appreciated including any companies 
that might repair the cluster. I have a feeling the issue will get 
progressively worse until it is no longer readable.



Thanks


Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I do not like Performa.  The only time I’ve used them is to sell them cores.  
They’re turnaround is not great and neither are their prices.  I use BBA Reman 
for my stuff when possible.  They were the only place that could fix/rebuild my 
R129 top controller - everyone else, including Performa, wanted to “look” at it 
and charge me a bench fee for the privilege.

BBA Reman did my 2002 W210 instrument cluster that was suffering from the bad 
pixel issue in under a week.  I think it was $110 plus $30 shipping to cover 
both directions (they pay both ways.)

-D


> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where to send it depends on where you are, and your preferences.  Palo Alto 
> Speedometer has been an MBCA advertiser for over 40 years.  Probably not the 
> cheapest.  MacDan likes performa, as they are in his neck of the woods.  
> There are other companies who advertise in the Star too.  I can look them up 
> if you want or I think you can get advertiser info from the MBCA.org website.
> 
> Or there is Car-part.com for a used one to use; or to use while yours is 
> repaired; or to send in and get it reset to match the mileage on the one 
> going bad, then install.


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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Where to send it depends on where you are, and your preferences.  Palo 
Alto Speedometer has been an MBCA advertiser for over 40 years.  
Probably not the cheapest.  MacDan likes performa, as they are in his 
neck of the woods.  There are other companies who advertise in the Star 
too.  I can look them up if you want or I think you can get advertiser 
info from the MBCA.org website.


Or there is Car-part.com for a used one to use; or to use while yours is 
repaired; or to send in and get it reset to match the mileage on the one 
going bad, then install.

Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
November 26, 2017 at 6:09 PM
Hi All,


I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K. The 
car has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for 
the past 3 months while my house undergoes some renovation work. I 
decided to use it the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting 
pinkish random lines that are progressively getting longer.



I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with 
the W211 instrument cluster. I will try to attach a picture to show 
the problem. Any help would be appreciated including any companies 
that might repair the cluster. I have a feeling the issue will get 
progressively worse until it is no longer readable.



Thanks


Bob K
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Check with BBA Reman.  They rebuild/repair lots of Mercedes clusters, and in 
most cases, pretty reasonably.  I got my 2002 W210 cluster rebuilt in less than 
a week from them for about $140 including shipping.

Dan


> On Nov 26, 2017, at 7:09 PM, Robert Koziak via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi All,
> 
> 
>  I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K.  The car 
> has been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for the past 3 
> months while my house undergoes some renovation work.  I decided to use it 
> the past week and noticed the speedometer is getting pinkish random lines 
> that are progressively getting longer.  
> 
> 
>  I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with the 
> W211 instrument cluster.  I will try to attach a picture to show the problem. 
>  Any help would be appreciated including any companies that might repair the 
> cluster.  I have a feeling the issue will get progressively worse until it is 
> no longer readable.
> 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> Bob K
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[MBZ] 2004 E320 Speedometer Issue

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Hi All,


  I am having an issue with the speedometer on my 2004 E320 w/88K.  The car has 
been mostly stored in a garage but has been kept outdoors for the past 3 months 
while my house undergoes some renovation work.  I decided to use it the past 
week and noticed the speedometer is getting pinkish random lines that are 
progressively getting longer.  


  I researched the internet and apparently there have been issues with the W211 
instrument cluster.  I will try to attach a picture to show the problem.  Any 
help would be appreciated including any companies that might repair the 
cluster.  I have a feeling the issue will get progressively worse until it is 
no longer readable.


Thanks


Bob K


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[MBZ] Freezer not freezing

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

My 22 cubic foot chest freezer stopped freezing yesterday.  Luckily I went out 
to replenish my supply of frozen blueberries and noticed it was not keeping 
things as frozen as usual.  I have about 1/2 of 1/2 a cow left from a purchase 
this spring. 
The freezer is about 30 years old so I guess it had a good life.  
Does anyone have any thoughts or recommendations on a replacement?  I’ll 
probably get something a little smaller this time as there is only the wife and 
I at home now. I like the coffin style as it is almost impossible to leave it 
open. I had a bad experience with an upright when the door was left open and we 
were gone for about two weeks. We came home to a very nasty rotten meat mess 
that was really awful.  I imagine it was pretty close to the smell of a rotting 
corpse. 
Thanks in advance,
Mike



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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Regular speed, but a large aircraft tumbles slowly. Watch them all.

Rick
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Rick wrote:
> ‎...

Is one of these the slo-mo Peter mentioned?
Thanks.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I live a couple miles down the bay from Quonset airfield & air national
guard is constantly training & practicing landings &  quick ascent
maneuvers with the two C130's stationed there.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Nov 26, 2017 10:24 AM, "tyee165 via Mercedes" 
wrote:

And they are aerobatic


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> Date: 2017-11-25  10:30 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes
Discussion List  Cc: Peter Frederick <
psf...@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747
The C130 is a real horse.

Emergency takeoff procedure is to hold the nose down and keep it on the
runway until V2 (flight speed) is reached, then pull back and climb at 45
degrees.  I don't know of any other aircraft you can do that with,
everything else would be out of runway long before it got to V2.

The amusing thing about them is that they were intended as a stop-gap item
"until the jets were ready".  I believe they entered service in 1954, but I
could be wrong

For some strange reason they are still in service -- a friend of mine's
daughter was flying them for the Alaska National Guard before she graduated
to jets.
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Re: [MBZ] 747

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> ‎...

Is one of these the slo-mo Peter mentioned?
Thanks.
tin.man

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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Scott,

I completely agree that it is a great airplane, that was not my point.

I also need to correct myself, I was mis-remembering this article:

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2013/10/07/new-air-force-planes-go-directly-to-boneyard.html

Which mentions the pork-barrel that I was referring to as the C-27 vice the
C-130.  The C-130 is mentioned as fully adequate and cheaper over the long
term.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Sun, Nov 26, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> -1
> I can't agree.  The C130 design has been a workhorse for the US and many
> other nations for six decades.  It is a good airplane, perhaps in spite of
> political chicanery.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > The C-130 is a fine example of your federal government (the best that
> money
> > can buy) buying too much of what your military doesn't need because some
> > congress critters are "bringing home the bacon".
>
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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

-1
I can't agree.  The C130 design has been a workhorse for the US and many other 
nations for six decades.  It is a good airplane, perhaps in spite of political 
chicanery.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> The C-130 is a fine example of your federal government (the best that money
> can buy) buying too much of what your military doesn't need because some
> congress critters are "bringing home the bacon".
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
> On November 25, 2017 11:30:27 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> >(snip) For some strange reason they are still in service --
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[MBZ] The Earth is Flat

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Was that you that cancelled this vital launch, Andrew?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2017/11/25/mad-mike-hughes-cancels-rocket-launch-prove-earth-flat/894762001/

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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Saw the Blue Angels C-130 do some impressive maneuvers one day 3-4 years 
ago when they were doing some warm-ups for the airshow here a day or two 
later.  They did it again for the airshow, out over Charleston Harbor 
and the new bridge.


--FT


On 11/26/17 10:23 AM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

And they are aerobatic


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 Date: 2017-11-25  10:30 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes Discussion 
List  Cc: Peter Frederick  Subject: Re: 
[MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747
The C130 is a real horse.

Emergency takeoff procedure is to hold the nose down and keep it on the runway 
until V2 (flight speed) is reached, then pull back and climb at 45 degrees.  I 
don't know of any other aircraft you can do that with, everything else would be 
out of runway long before it got to V2.

The amusing thing about them is that they were intended as a stop-gap item "until 
the jets were ready".  I believe they entered service in 1954, but I could be wrong

For some strange reason they are still in service -- a friend of mine's 
daughter was flying them for the Alaska National Guard before she graduated to 
jets.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 block heater has died

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

>
> Has anybody ever broken a block trying to remove the plug, or does it just
> feel like you're going to rip a hole in the side of the block before the
> plug unscrews?


Exactly my experience, the one time I did it.  Pulling a bad heater is MUCH
easier than pulling the freeze plug.  But, the most likely problem is a bad
cord.  It's an easy test, using an ohmmeter.

-- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

The C-130 is a fine example of your federal government (the best that money can 
buy) buying too much of what your military doesn't need because some congress 
critters are "bringing home the bacon".
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On November 25, 2017 11:30:27 PM EST, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>
>(snip) For some strange reason they are still in service -- 

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Re: [MBZ] W123 block heater has died

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

If the cord is good and the element is bad and you do not want to do the in 
block replacement ( or want to put it off for the winter) there are aftermarket 
options. Clamp on heaters, magnetic heaters, inline coolant heaters, battery 
blankets etc.


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 Original message From: Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-11-25  9:47 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Andrew Strasfogel 
 Subject: [MBZ] W123 block heater has died 
The OEM block heater on my 1983 300TD no longer works.  Is it worth
diagnosing/repairing?  Or simpler to just replace it?  Are they a Mercedes
part?  Anyone BTDT?

Andrew
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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

And they are aerobatic 


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 Original message From: Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 Date: 2017-11-25  10:30 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
Discussion List  Cc: Peter Frederick 
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747 
The C130 is a real horse.

Emergency takeoff procedure is to hold the nose down and keep it on the runway 
until V2 (flight speed) is reached, then pull back and climb at 45 degrees.  I 
don't know of any other aircraft you can do that with, everything else would be 
out of runway long before it got to V2.

The amusing thing about them is that they were intended as a stop-gap item 
"until the jets were ready".  I believe they entered service in 1954, but I 
could be wrong  

For some strange reason they are still in service -- a friend of mine's 
daughter was flying them for the Alaska National Guard before she graduated to 
jets.
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Re: [MBZ] C130 Wuz: 747

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

They are still being produced also with a new civilian version getting ready to 
come out. 

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> On Nov 25, 2017, at 10:30 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The C130 is a real horse.
> 
> Emergency takeoff procedure is to hold the nose down and keep it on the 
> runway until V2 (flight speed) is reached, then pull back and climb at 45 
> degrees.  I don't know of any other aircraft you can do that with, everything 
> else would be out of runway long before it got to V2.
> 
> The amusing thing about them is that they were intended as a stop-gap item 
> "until the jets were ready".  I believe they entered service in 1954, but I 
> could be wrong  
> 
> For some strange reason they are still in service -- a friend of mine's 
> daughter was flying them for the Alaska National Guard before she graduated 
> to jets.
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Re: [MBZ] C230 Kompressor

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

That engine is a real big pain to work on, or so I hear. I had a buddy who had 
one who had to do some sort of job on it a couple of times that is very common 
and a real big hassle but I can’t remember what it was. He said he would never 
have another one. 

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> On Nov 25, 2017, at 12:25 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> All:
> 
> 
> 
> DIL is looking at a C230 in HNL:
> 
> 
> 
> https://honolulu.craigslist.org/oah/cto/d/must-go-mercedez-car/6388080974.html
> 
> 
> 
> Opinions? Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> Greg
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Re: [MBZ] W123 block heater has died

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

just seems like it will.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
November 25, 2017 at 10:44 PM
Has anybody ever broken a block trying to remove the plug, or does it 
just feel like you're going to rip a hole in the side of the block 
before the plug unscrews?

Mitch.




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