Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Russ Williams via Mercedes]

Kaleb if you want to bid on it I have a spot I can store it for you 
until you can pick it up.

If it's drive able and they will let you have somebody else pick it up.

Russ

On Wed,1/17/18 21:48, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

The auction is the 23rd, so pickup date won't be later than the 30th no matter 
what you do.
I'd talk to Russ. It's clean title so he should be allowed to drive it home if 
you give him the pickup papers.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Thank God that car is so far away from me!



clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 17, 2018, at 3:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Buy it now pricing:
> https://www.copart.com/lot/50632867
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

Sorry for the loss.  I was just contemplating how BMW cars have retained their 
unique presences.  A benz has no distinctiveness.

By all means part out the car for those items you know will be expensive to 
procure for another ride.  A spare part is always welcome, and if  you plan 
repairs or upgrades, you can do it to the spare and then swap it in.  Make sure 
you have space to store it and strip it.

The return on time invested to scour the carcass for items of value on the open 
market is minimal at best.  You will need a bunch of free time that would be 
better spent billing time.  Marketing the items involves truck loads of time 
and effort, months at times and then needing  to make sure it stays sold.


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

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1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 17, 2018, at 1:11 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my 
> new job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know 
> I have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.  
>  The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
> catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and 
> they typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail 
> sooner.  Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and 
> there is almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 
> series is done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with 
> experience parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and 
> have already removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering 
> if it is worth the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for 
> mine AND also to sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.
> 
> Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] secret message for Andrew

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Thanks.  Beautiful but likely a money pit!

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> https://www.copart.com/lot/46157397
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Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

[clay monroe via Mercedes]

>From the diagrams, the lines were where they belong.


clay 

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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen

retired models-
2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored crap
1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers







> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:08 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Were the brown tubes on the wrong way around? That at least should be the 
> same on all the cars. There are so many diagrams, even for the same engine 
> that it's sometimes hard to tell which to use.
> 
> MG
> 
> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
>> The lines were hooked up prior to transmission work.  All vac lines were 
>> hooked back up following official diagram by the tech.  Car came back to me 
>> with starting issue that was not there before.  I used another diagram from 
>> interweb (BW) to trace lines.  Used the data provided here to attempt fix 
>> and solutions.  I plucked brown tubes and checked them for goodness, then 
>> installed them according to the diagram.  Then I pulled the EGR hose.
>> clay 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1986 SDL - Polei
>> 1982 300 SD - Allen
>>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:53 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Explain please. If they were unhooked all the time then you would not be 
>>> able to shut the engine off with the key. How, where, when were they 
>>> unhooked and what were the results of that before any other changes.
>>> 
>>> MG
>>> 
>>> clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:
 Brown lines were unhooked and messed with
 
> On Jan 15, 2018, at 6:10 AM, MG via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> IF it failed in the open position wouldn't it be open all the time even 
> without the vac hooked up? The only thing I can see the vac doing is 
> opening it up after the first start as the vac is building up. Then it 
> gets held open all the time, till the vac all goes away, which would give 
> power problems when driving also. It also shows that all the vac line 
> routing on the engine is screwed up cause the EGR isn't supposed to get 
> vac except at specific times controlled by the valves on top of the valve 
> cover. At least on the 617.
> 
> What I want to know is did Clay change the brown lines around?
> 
> I can't really see enough exhaust getting through that small hole in the 
> EGR to cause hard starting but then the proof seems to be there. Also 
> gives another reason to block the EGR.
> 
> MG
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[MBZ] HF Battery Charger Coupon

[Craig via Mercedes]

Kaleb was asking last week about maintaining a bunch of batteries.

I ran across the attached coupon.


Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The auction is the 23rd, so pickup date won't be later than the 30th no matter 
what you do. 
I'd talk to Russ. It's clean title so he should be allowed to drive it home if 
you give him the pickup papers.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So in this particular case do you think it would be best to bid on it 
and see what happens, make a lower offer, buy it now? Unless somebody 
was close that could get the car for me and park it at their place I 
don't see how I could get down there until next Month.



On 1/17/2018 9:27 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On January 17, 2018 at 10:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:

So if I want to bid on this or BIN, do I setup an account, pay online?
How does all that work?

Click the 'register' button at the upper right.
Once you're registered, you can see the fees and 'upgrades and deposits' in the 
'my account' pulldown. They've got a fee for everything. Final value fee and 
gate fee are unavoidable, and internet bid fee is unavoidable if you aren't at 
the yard. Then there's the $50 fee to process the title for a non-dealer, and 
sales tax. In Michigan, they pay the $15 state title fee, so the processing fee 
is really only $35.

You're allowed to bid up to $1000 on up to one car at a time without a deposit.
Payment has to be made by credit card online (there's a fee for that), by cash 
(they only accept up to $400 cash, and only at the location where the car is) 
or money order (at the same yard as the car).
If you want to be able to bid more than $100, you can make a deposit with 
credit card for no fee.
I'm not sure what would happen if you made a $1000 deposit by credit card, then 
bought a car for $900-1000 with tax. It's possible you could use that as a back 
door to paying by credit card without getting hit with a credit card fee, if 
they're just taking the money for the car out of funds you have on deposit.

Pickup within one week of purchase, I think it's sooner if you use buy it now, 
$20 per day for late pickup. The yards near me are open 8am-5pm, five days a 
week. The tow companies that they deal with have the key code for the front 
gate, so they can move the car out to the front parking lot during business 
hours and the transporter can pick up at night. I don't think they'd give you 
the gate code, but maybe they would. You could just pay the $700 or whatever 
they want for delivery, but that would nearly double the price of the car.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 10:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So where do cars come from that they are selling? 

My ML came from state farm insurance but the carfax was clean when I bought it. 
Now it says 'salvage auction' on carfax. 
Since it was a comprehensive claim (deer collision), it doesn't have a 
collision history. 

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 10:12 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> So if I want to bid on this or BIN, do I setup an account, pay online?  
> How does all that work?

Click the 'register' button at the upper right. 
Once you're registered, you can see the fees and 'upgrades and deposits' in the 
'my account' pulldown. They've got a fee for everything. Final value fee and 
gate fee are unavoidable, and internet bid fee is unavoidable if you aren't at 
the yard. Then there's the $50 fee to process the title for a non-dealer, and 
sales tax. In Michigan, they pay the $15 state title fee, so the processing fee 
is really only $35.

You're allowed to bid up to $1000 on up to one car at a time without a deposit. 
Payment has to be made by credit card online (there's a fee for that), by cash 
(they only accept up to $400 cash, and only at the location where the car is) 
or money order (at the same yard as the car). 
If you want to be able to bid more than $100, you can make a deposit with 
credit card for no fee. 
I'm not sure what would happen if you made a $1000 deposit by credit card, then 
bought a car for $900-1000 with tax. It's possible you could use that as a back 
door to paying by credit card without getting hit with a credit card fee, if 
they're just taking the money for the car out of funds you have on deposit. 

Pickup within one week of purchase, I think it's sooner if you use buy it now, 
$20 per day for late pickup. The yards near me are open 8am-5pm, five days a 
week. The tow companies that they deal with have the key code for the front 
gate, so they can move the car out to the front parking lot during business 
hours and the transporter can pick up at night. I don't think they'd give you 
the gate code, but maybe they would. You could just pay the $700 or whatever 
they want for delivery, but that would nearly double the price of the car. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] I have found the next Klebmobile

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

What a beast!


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 Original message From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 Date: 2018-01-17  6:59 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: Mercedes 
List  Cc: Dan Penoff  Subject: [MBZ] I 
have found the next Klebmobile 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Cadillac-Fleetwood-limousine/152869206810?hash=item2397b6fb1a:g:p7MAAOSwN2VZXTT0&vxp=mtr

Discuss.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Update on the cab

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

yep


On 1/17/2018 9:16 PM, tyee165 via Mercedes wrote:

When and if you go to look at it, take along a magnet so you can check to see 
how much bondo  has been applied to that spot.


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 Original message From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 Date: 2018-01-17  6:52 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: mercedes@okiebenz.com, 
davesl...@okiebenz.com Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin"  Subject: [MBZ] Update on 
the cab
The guy said it’s not getting totaled and the insurance is fixing it. He will 
let me know when it’s done.

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Update on the cab

[tyee165 via Mercedes]

When and if you go to look at it, take along a magnet so you can check to see 
how much bondo  has been applied to that spot.


Sent from my Galaxy Tab® A
 Original message From: "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 Date: 2018-01-17  6:52 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
mercedes@okiebenz.com, davesl...@okiebenz.com Cc: "Kaleb C. Striplin" 
 Subject: [MBZ] Update on the cab 
The guy said it’s not getting totaled and the insurance is fixing it. He will 
let me know when it’s done.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So where do cars come from that they are selling?  I always thought they 
were wrecked cars or insurance claim cars.  This one shows nothing at 
least not on the carfax.


So if I want to bid on this or BIN, do I setup an account, pay online?  
How does all that work?



On 1/17/2018 9:11 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On January 17, 2018 at 9:57 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:


The grille shell and hood ornament are missing but I do not see any
damage.  The plastic cover over the aux fans is even in tact.

I guess I should have looked at the hood open picture.
I think the main thing wrong with it is the odometer reading and/or model year.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 9:57 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> The grille shell and hood ornament are missing but I do not see any 
> damage.  The plastic cover over the aux fans is even in tact.

I guess I should have looked at the hood open picture. 
I think the main thing wrong with it is the odometer reading and/or model year. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The grille shell and hood ornament are missing but I do not see any 
damage.  The plastic cover over the aux fans is even in tact. What is 
the brown looking mark in the drivers side headlight?  The carfax does 
show it registered in a fema flood area from 2005 but does not say it 
was flood damaged, just that it was registered in the area.



On 1/17/2018 8:54 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On January 17, 2018 at 9:49 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:


I wonder what the deal is with this car?

Looks like it got hit in the grille.
Don't know what the condenser and radiator look like.

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 9:49 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> I wonder what the deal is with this car?  

Looks like it got hit in the grille. 
Don't know what the condenser and radiator look like.

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Re: [MBZ] I have found the next Klebmobile

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

a mexican cadillac


On 1/17/2018 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Cadillac-Fleetwood-limousine/152869206810?hash=item2397b6fb1a:g:p7MAAOSwN2VZXTT0&vxp=mtr

Discuss.

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I wonder what the deal is with this car?  I ran the carfax and it shows 
its a 1 owner vehicle has had extensive dealer service it appears.  
Engine looks very clean.  This might be a deal.



On 1/17/2018 7:04 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

No but I do

Sent from my iPhone


On Jan 17, 2018, at 5:58 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

Buy it now pricing:
https://www.copart.com/lot/50632867

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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 8:40 PM Russ Williams via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Mailing address is Denham Springs but I really live north side of the 
> Watson community.

So you're within 5 miles of that CoPart yard?
The rodbender has a clean title and you can buy it without a business license. 
Buyer's fees for Buy-It-Now are $294, plus $39 if you bid on the internet, the 
$39 fee doesn't apply if you bid from the kiosk at the yard. 
It looks like a decent $900 car to me, if it's not burning oil yet. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Curley sez :

>‎Take out the windows and sell them on >fleabay as "bulletproof."

On this car, they are.

https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2041698-Security-Protection-glass-strength-question


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Re: [MBZ] I have found the next Klebmobile

[OK Don via Mercedes]

He does, but that car perfectly matches Regina's driving style. She needs
this car to start a limo service for rural OK . . .

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:50 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> OMG I hope Kleb has more,taste,than that.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 17, 2018 7:59 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
> wrote:
>
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Cadillac-Fleetwood-limousine/
> 152869206810?hash=item2397b6fb1a:g:p7MAAOSwN2VZXTT0&vxp=mtr
>
> Discuss.
>
> -D
>
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

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If he hasn't had time to read our totally engrossing missives, he certainly
doesn't have time to part out and sell a car . . .

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 7:05 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> “Time and inclination” are the key terms here.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Maybe you are supposed to replace the rails before they break.
> >
> > Anyway, if you have the time and inclination I would think you could
> make some money selling parts off it. Then haul the rest to the crusher
> when you are done.
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Re: [MBZ] I have found the next Klebmobile

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OMG I hope Kleb has more,taste,than that.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 17, 2018 7:59 PM, "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" 
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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Cadillac-Fleetwood-limousine/
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

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Car is located in Baton Rouge, La.

On Wed,1/17/18 19:40, Russ Williams via Mercedes wrote:
Mailing address is Denham Springs but I really live north side of the 
Watson community.



On Wed,1/17/18 19:04, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Where do you live?

Sent from my iPhone

On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
 wrote:


That's not far from where I live.


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Buy it now pricing:
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

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Mailing address is Denham Springs but I really live north side of the 
Watson community.



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Where do you live?

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That's not far from where I live.


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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

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“Time and inclination” are the key terms here.

-D


> On Jan 17, 2018, at 7:59 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Maybe you are supposed to replace the rails before they break.
> 
> Anyway, if you have the time and inclination I would think you could make 
> some money selling parts off it. Then haul the rest to the crusher when you 
> are done.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

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Where do you live?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jan 17, 2018, at 6:34 PM, Russ Williams via Mercedes 
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> That's not far from where I live.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

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No but I do

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

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Maybe you are supposed to replace the rails before they break.

Anyway, if you have the time and inclination I would think you could make some 
money selling parts off it. Then haul the rest to the crusher when you are done.

Sent from my iPhone

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> 
> Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my 
> new job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know 
> I have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.  
>  The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
> catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and 
> they typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail 
> sooner.  Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and 
> there is almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 
> series is done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with 
> experience parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and 
> have already removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering 
> if it is worth the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for 
> mine AND also to sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.
> 
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[MBZ] I have found the next Klebmobile

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https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Cadillac-Fleetwood-limousine/152869206810?hash=item2397b6fb1a:g:p7MAAOSwN2VZXTT0&vxp=mtr

Discuss.

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[MBZ] Update on the cab

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

The guy said it’s not getting totaled and the insurance is fixing it. He will 
let me know when it’s done.

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Make a you-tuber video demonstrating the bullet-proof-ness, maybe some IED 
action, viral video will maybe net you a few bucks from advertising?
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Re: [MBZ] Regina needs this

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That's not far from where I live.

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[MBZ] Regina needs this

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[MBZ] secret message for Andrew

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https://www.copart.com/lot/46157397

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

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Snook owns/owned a 740iL Protection. It was the highest mileage BMW he had a 
couple of years ago. 

Maybe he should BAT it and see if he can get $3-4k from somebody willing to do 
a drivetrain swap.
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2001-bmw-750li-2/
Mitch. 

> On January 17, 2018 at 6:12 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> HAHAHA  Take out the windows and sell them on fleabay as "bulletproof."

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

wheels


Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 17, 2018 at 3:35 PM
Agree with Dan. I'd say grab the starter, alternator, battery (assuming
they fit the 1999 model) and anything else that commonly fails like 
relays,

or really expensive things like the engine computer. If the headlights,
tail lights, and signal lights are compatible, those are easy to take off
and store. Radio? Speakers? Rear view mirror(s)? Window regulators and
motors? Antenna? Dash instrument cluster? Get a plastic storage bin,
fill it up and write the inventory on the top lid and store that away.
I'll bet that you may only need one or two of the items, but I could be
wrong.

If you want to sell the parts, find an online forum and advertise the
entire car for parts, local pick up only. If you have a place away from
your house to store it, advertise on your local Craigs list.

-
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

HAHAHA  Take out the windows and sell them on fleabay as "bulletproof."


Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
January 17, 2018 at 3:34 PM
Is this the one that you can sell windows for thousands each?

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT FOR WILTON -- Prisoners of War in the US

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I knew of a couple of camps in OK, but had no idea there were so many!

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 3:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> G Mann rocks.
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Here is a list of ALL the POW camps in USA, also, some details of a few
> of
> > the camps, with dates.
> >
> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-
> > of-war_camps_in_the_United_States
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Not actually southie but south of there
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2018 11:53 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Wait, what?  Guineas in Southie?  WTF?  That ain’t right!  I guess
> they
> > > > would know better than to try to escape. Likely be worse getting out
> of
> > > > Southie than fighting in yurp and their survival chances would be
> > lowah.
> > > >
> > > > --R
> > > > Sent from iPhone
> > > >
> > > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > There,was,an Italian internment camp in Boston near where,UMass
> > Boston
> > > is
> > > > > now on Columbia Point.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > > > Wickford RI
> > > > >
> > > > > On Jan 16, 2018 10:23 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> I found this one, documenting Italian POWs at Ackley, IA  I am not
> > > sure
> > > > >> what camp they were housed at.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/7fxxpr/italian_
> > > > >> pows_on_my_grandfathers_farm_summer_1944/
> > > > >>
> > > > >> The first article I linked said some Italians were sent to
> Clarinda,
> > > but
> > > > >> the algona camp would have been a lot closer to Ackley.  There
> was a
> > > > >> vegetable canning plant in Ackley so it is likely a branch camp
> was
> > > > there,
> > > > >> but I did not find any reference to it.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Lots of lost memory as that generation dies off.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > > > >>> January 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
> > > > >>> There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods south of Kenora during
> > the
> > > > war
> > > > >>> too. I am told that they even gave the prisoners guns and let
> them
> > go
> > > > >>> hunting. No worries I guess as these guys had it made in the
> shade.
> > > No
> > > > way
> > > > >>> they wanted to escape and go back to the war. They spent the rest
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > >>> war being treated pretty well.
> > > > >>> There was, until only a few years ago, one of the former
> prisoners
> > > who
> > > > >>> owned a cottage in the area and came back every summer from
> > Germany.
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>> RB
> > > > >>>
> > > > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[OK Don via Mercedes]

With your love of trying all sorts of different cars, I would consider
whether or not you will want to keep the '99 running for the long term or
not. If not, don't bother stocking up on spare parts that you will only
have to get rid of later. If so, grab everything you can.
Have you moved, or are you still commuting from Wichita?

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry to hear of your bad luck.
>
> My immediate thought is: How many miles on the 1999 and has it had the
> guides replaced? If not, you have another ticking time bomb and not much
> point in saving parts if the 2nd car is going to end up like the 1st.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 17/01/2018 3:11 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with
>> my new job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you
>> know I have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999
>> 740IL.   The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car
>> experienced a catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing
>> chain guides and they typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.
>> Sometimes they fail sooner.  Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They
>> apparently let go and there is almost no time to stop the damage from
>> occurring.  So, my 2000 7 series is done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My
>> question is for you all with experience parting out cars.  I needed the
>> radiator for the other car and have already removed it.  I know this is a
>> Mercedes list, but I'm wondering if it is worth the trouble to start
>> scavenging parts off the car to use for mine AND also to sell for $.  I
>> have never tried to do this.
>>
>> I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.
>>
>> Don Snook
>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT cyber warfare and self-driving cars

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Way back in the NT4 days, I wrote in a Microsoft customer survey (I had 300
servers and 10,000 PCs running their software) that the hacking of our
boxes was akin to driving your car down the freeway at 70 and having a
hacker take remote control of your car, turn the wheel hard left and floor
the gas. I got all kinds of excuses, etc., and a call from Redmond execs
apologizing and promising to do better. We all know how that turned out.

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> That Jeep hacking is mentioned in the article.  A point that I like is that
> national security "trumps" free trade (China recently passed legislation
> which effectively bans foreign car makers from selling autonomous cars in
> China).  See how I did that?
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There was a video a coupla years ago of some guys who hacked into the
> > control system of a Jeep (I think) through some sort of on-board wi-fi
> > thing it had as a "feature," and were able to override the driver
> > application of brakes and other controls.  It was pretty scary.
> >
> > If these things get connected among themselves to enable "road trains"
> > with acceleration, steering, and braking, then it would be very simple to
> > control them from afar to do all kinds of mayhem. Welcome Skynet!
> >
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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You need a contest to guess the source, with an appropriate reward.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:25 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Take a couple paper towels and tape them flat over the injectors, the
> metal lines and the return lines. Run the engine for a couple minutes, it
> should help narrow down the issue pretty quick.
> Are the clamps in place on the metal lines? They'll vibrate and break if
> not. Thats pretty obvious when its happening, in the dark shine a light
> over the engine bay, the rainbow is pretty easy to spot.
> -Curt
>
>
> On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 2:15:16 PM EST, Karl Wittnebel via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  85 300td is leaking diesel somewhere, but motor and pump are dry under
> hood.  Have been noticing smell for a week or so. Parking at work today I
> noticed a vapor coming up out of the left-sided Fender Hood joint which
> smelled like unburned diesel but looked like smoke. This is the same smell
> I've been noticing on the road. Seem to potentially be a small fuel puddle
> under where the injection pump is also when left running in park, but I
> dont see the dripping . I don't see anything coming off the filter
> associated fittings nothing off the return lines on the injectors nothing
> off the hard injector lines on the pump, and I'm a bit confused as to where
> this is all coming from. It almost must be one of the main supply lines to
> the injection pump. Anybody have this syndrome before? Maybe a high
> pressure line leak vaporizing the diesel? It is running fine, no miss.
>
> Thanks for any thoughts,
> Karl
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Sorry to hear of your bad luck.

My immediate thought is: How many miles on the 1999 and has it had the 
guides replaced? If not, you have another ticking time bomb and not much 
point in saving parts if the 2nd car is going to end up like the 1st.


RB

On 17/01/2018 3:11 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:

Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my new 
job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know I 
have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.   
The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and they 
typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail sooner.  
Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and there is 
almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 series is 
done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with experience 
parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and have already 
removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering if it is worth 
the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for mine AND also to 
sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.

I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.

Don Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT FOR WILTON -- Prisoners of War in the US

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

G Mann rocks.

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 2:16 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Here is a list of ALL the POW camps in USA, also, some details of a few of
> the camps, with dates.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-
> of-war_camps_in_the_United_States
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Not actually southie but south of there
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2018 11:53 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Wait, what?  Guineas in Southie?  WTF?  That ain’t right!  I guess they
> > > would know better than to try to escape. Likely be worse getting out of
> > > Southie than fighting in yurp and their survival chances would be
> lowah.
> > >
> > > --R
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There,was,an Italian internment camp in Boston near where,UMass
> Boston
> > is
> > > > now on Columbia Point.
> > > >
> > > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > > Wickford RI
> > > >
> > > > On Jan 16, 2018 10:23 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >> I found this one, documenting Italian POWs at Ackley, IA  I am not
> > sure
> > > >> what camp they were housed at.
> > > >>
> > > >> https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/7fxxpr/italian_
> > > >> pows_on_my_grandfathers_farm_summer_1944/
> > > >>
> > > >> The first article I linked said some Italians were sent to Clarinda,
> > but
> > > >> the algona camp would have been a lot closer to Ackley.  There was a
> > > >> vegetable canning plant in Ackley so it is likely a branch camp was
> > > there,
> > > >> but I did not find any reference to it.
> > > >>
> > > >> Lots of lost memory as that generation dies off.
> > > >>
> > > >>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > > >>> January 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
> > > >>> There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods south of Kenora during
> the
> > > war
> > > >>> too. I am told that they even gave the prisoners guns and let them
> go
> > > >>> hunting. No worries I guess as these guys had it made in the shade.
> > No
> > > way
> > > >>> they wanted to escape and go back to the war. They spent the rest
> of
> > > the
> > > >>> war being treated pretty well.
> > > >>> There was, until only a few years ago, one of the former prisoners
> > who
> > > >>> owned a cottage in the area and came back every summer from
> Germany.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> RB
> > > >>>
> > > >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Things that are somewhat consumable like AC compressor, alternator, PS 
pump, injection stuff, transmission, computers, brake booster, wiper 
motor and bits, etc. and whatever else might be easy (I guess tranny 
isn't so easy, but a high $$ item) like the radio, headlights, 
taillights, grill, etc.


I took the 420SEL apart, other than the engine/tranny for which you need 
a hoist, the rest is pretty easy and even the engine wasn't that hard.  
You wouldn't want the engine itself but you could pick all the other 
bits off it.  You'd need some place to put whatever you get off, but 
aside from the tranny the rest of it would fit in a couple bins or 
crates.  If you had more room get the doors and seats and maybe trunk 
lid and hood.  Even fenders if they are removable.


Then call someone to haul off the carcass, you might or might not get a 
few $$ from them for it as scrap values are pretty low right now.


--FT


On 1/17/18 4:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry for your loss, Donald.

As for parting, take what you can use off of it as log as you have a place to 
store it, and scrap the car.  Parting it to sell off parts requires a 
significant commitment of time and resources, and unless there are a few items 
that have significant value, isn’t worth the effort to do so.

Considering your current situation, I don’t see how you could possibly benefit 
from parting it out except to get the parts you can use yourself for your other 
car.

-D



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wrote:

Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my new 
job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know I 
have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.   
The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and they 
typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail sooner.  
Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and there is 
almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 series is 
done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with experience 
parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and have already 
removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering if it is worth 
the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for mine AND also to 
sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.

I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.

Don Snook

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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Agree with Dan.  I'd say grab the starter, alternator, battery (assuming
they fit the 1999 model) and anything else that commonly fails like relays,
or really expensive things like the engine computer.  If the headlights,
tail lights, and signal lights are compatible, those are easy to take off
and store.  Radio?  Speakers?  Rear view mirror(s)? Window regulators and
motors?  Antenna?  Dash instrument cluster?  Get a plastic storage bin,
fill it up and write the inventory on the top lid and store that away.
I'll bet that you may only need one or two of the items, but I could be
wrong.

If you want to sell the parts, find an online forum and advertise the
entire car for parts, local pick up only.  If you have a place away from
your house to store it, advertise on your local Craigs list.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sorry for your loss, Donald.
>
> As for parting, take what you can use off of it as log as you have a place
> to store it, and scrap the car.  Parting it to sell off parts requires a
> significant commitment of time and resources, and unless there are a few
> items that have significant value, isn’t worth the effort to do so.
>
> Considering your current situation, I don’t see how you could possibly
> benefit from parting it out except to get the parts you can use yourself
> for your other car.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with
> my new job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you
> know I have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999
> 740IL.   The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car
> experienced a catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing
> chain guides and they typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.
> Sometimes they fail sooner.  Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They
> apparently let go and there is almost no time to stop the damage from
> occurring.  So, my 2000 7 series is done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My
> question is for you all with experience parting out cars.  I needed the
> radiator for the other car and have already removed it.  I know this is a
> Mercedes list, but I'm wondering if it is worth the trouble to start
> scavenging parts off the car to use for mine AND also to sell for $.  I
> have never tried to do this.
> >
> > I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.
> >
> > Don Snook
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Is this the one that you can sell windows for thousands each?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT cyber warfare and self-driving cars

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That Jeep hacking is mentioned in the article.  A point that I like is that
national security "trumps" free trade (China recently passed legislation
which effectively bans foreign car makers from selling autonomous cars in
China).  See how I did that?

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 4:01 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There was a video a coupla years ago of some guys who hacked into the
> control system of a Jeep (I think) through some sort of on-board wi-fi
> thing it had as a "feature," and were able to override the driver
> application of brakes and other controls.  It was pretty scary.
>
> If these things get connected among themselves to enable "road trains"
> with acceleration, steering, and braking, then it would be very simple to
> control them from afar to do all kinds of mayhem. Welcome Skynet!
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Take a couple paper towels and tape them flat over the injectors, the metal 
lines and the return lines. Run the engine for a couple minutes, it should help 
narrow down the issue pretty quick.
Are the clamps in place on the metal lines? They'll vibrate and break if not. 
Thats pretty obvious when its happening, in the dark shine a light over the 
engine bay, the rainbow is pretty easy to spot.
-Curt
 

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 2:15:16 PM EST, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 85 300td is leaking diesel somewhere, but motor and pump are dry under
hood.  Have been noticing smell for a week or so. Parking at work today I
noticed a vapor coming up out of the left-sided Fender Hood joint which
smelled like unburned diesel but looked like smoke. This is the same smell
I've been noticing on the road. Seem to potentially be a small fuel puddle
under where the injection pump is also when left running in park, but I
dont see the dripping . I don't see anything coming off the filter
associated fittings nothing off the return lines on the injectors nothing
off the hard injector lines on the pump, and I'm a bit confused as to where
this is all coming from. It almost must be one of the main supply lines to
the injection pump. Anybody have this syndrome before? Maybe a high
pressure line leak vaporizing the diesel? It is running fine, no miss.

Thanks for any thoughts,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry for your loss, Donald.

As for parting, take what you can use off of it as log as you have a place to 
store it, and scrap the car.  Parting it to sell off parts requires a 
significant commitment of time and resources, and unless there are a few items 
that have significant value, isn’t worth the effort to do so.

Considering your current situation, I don’t see how you could possibly benefit 
from parting it out except to get the parts you can use yourself for your other 
car.

-D


> On Jan 17, 2018, at 4:11 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my 
> new job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know 
> I have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.  
>  The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
> catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and 
> they typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail 
> sooner.  Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and 
> there is almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 
> series is done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with 
> experience parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and 
> have already removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering 
> if it is worth the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for 
> mine AND also to sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.
> 
> I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.
> 
> Don Snook
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Re: [MBZ] OT cyber warfare and self-driving cars

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On January 17, 2018 at 4:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> If these things get connected among themselves to enable "road trains" 
> with acceleration, steering, and braking, then it would be very simple 
> to control them from afar to do all kinds of mayhem. Welcome Skynet!
>

Skynet?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sb_uw2KbPUo

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[MBZ] Catastrophic Failure

[Donald Snook via Mercedes]

Its been a while since I emailed.  I am still receiving digest, but with my new 
job I haven't had much time to respond to any.   I think many of you know I 
have two BMW 7 series.  One is a 2000 740IL and the other is a 1999 740IL.   
The 2000 has almost 240,000 miles.   Last week the poor car experienced a 
catastrophic failure.  These engines have plastic timing chain guides and they 
typical fail between 150,000 and 200,000 miles.  Sometimes they fail sooner.  
Well, mine lasted almost 240,000 miles.  They apparently let go and there is 
almost no time to stop the damage from occurring.  So, my 2000 7 series is 
done.  It is going to BMW heaven.  My question is for you all with experience 
parting out cars.  I needed the radiator for the other car and have already 
removed it.  I know this is a Mercedes list, but I'm wondering if it is worth 
the trouble to start scavenging parts off the car to use for mine AND also to 
sell for $.  I have never tried to do this.

I hope everyone is doing well and staying warm in this nasty weather.

Don Snook

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Re: [MBZ] OT cyber warfare and self-driving cars

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There was a video a coupla years ago of some guys who hacked into the 
control system of a Jeep (I think) through some sort of on-board wi-fi 
thing it had as a "feature," and were able to override the driver 
application of brakes and other controls.  It was pretty scary.


If these things get connected among themselves to enable "road trains" 
with acceleration, steering, and braking, then it would be very simple 
to control them from afar to do all kinds of mayhem. Welcome Skynet!


--FT


On 1/17/18 2:52 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Some interesting insights and connecting of dots.  Curly will love this!

-or-

Inspiration to keep driving our old analog non-connected and un-hackable
cars.

Short version for most of us:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/terrorists-could-use-teslas-to-kill-us/article/2011171


Long version for STEM nerds:
https://www.zachaysan.com/writing/2018-01-17-self-crashing-cars



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Re: [MBZ] OT FOR WILTON -- Prisoners of War in the USA

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Or ID.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:02 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> http://www.iptv.org/iowapathways/mypath/world-war-ii-prisoners-war-iowa
> Germans at Algona and Clarinda.
>
> http://articles.chicagotribune.com/2002-10-07/news/
> 0210070179_1_pow-camps-german-soldiers-traveling
>
> http://ir.uiowa.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1554&context
> =annals-of-iowa   Italian and German POWs.
>
> I also read a thing that said Italians were housed at "Fairwiew, Iowa"  I
> did not find any other info t  confirm this.  Fairview is an unincorporated
> settlement.  Probably either FairFIELD IA, or the IA was a typo and it was
> Fairview, LA, just downstream from Natchez.
>
> http://www.prisonersinparadise.com/history.html
>
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> January 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
>> There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods south of Kenora during the war
>> too. I am told that they even gave the prisoners guns and let them go
>> hunting. No worries I guess as these guys had it made in the shade. No way
>> they wanted to escape and go back to the war. They spent the rest of the
>> war being treated pretty well.
>> There was, until only a few years ago, one of the former prisoners who
>> owned a cottage in the area and came back every summer from Germany.
>>
>> RB
>>
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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

if raw fuel is smoking, it is almost always time to change the return 
lines.  it is possible for the injector holder to leak, if the seal was 
reused or not properly torqued.  Both will result in fuel surrounding 
the injector holder, getting hot and smoking off.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
January 17, 2018 at 1:56 PM
My first thought is that the return lines from the injectors are failing.
Given Randy's caution re: high pressure leak, shut off engine and feel the
return lines with naked fingers, smell them afterwards if you can't 
feel or

see fuel on them. Check the cigar hose and other rubber hoses as well.

Get a black light and inspect for leaks tonight in a dark area, engine
running. Diesel fuel has some additive that fluoresces under ultraviolet
light.

-
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Fla Duh Idians?

RB


On 17/01/2018 2:11 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
it is Fla Duh.   Em FA sis on the last syllable, and drow out the last 
syllable when referring to people.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM
"New Englanders don't seem to have any pet names."
Wha? I live in the land of Massholes. Mainers (the proper term) are 
often referred to as "Maniacs" which we consider derogatory from you 
flatlanders.
Do Floridians have a pet name? The state does, its God's Waiting Room 
after all but I've never heard of one for the people...


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

it is Fla Duh.   Em FA sis on the last syllable, and drow out the last 
syllable when referring to people.



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
January 17, 2018 at 12:51 PM
"New Englanders don't seem to have any pet names."
Wha? I live in the land of Massholes. Mainers (the proper term) are 
often referred to as "Maniacs" which we consider derogatory from you 
flatlanders.
Do Floridians have a pet name? The state does, its God's Waiting Room 
after all but I've never heard of one for the people...


-Curt


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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My first thought is that the return lines from the injectors are failing.
Given Randy's caution re: high pressure leak, shut off engine and feel the
return lines with naked fingers, smell them afterwards if you can't feel or
see fuel on them.  Check the cigar hose and other rubber hoses as well.

Get a black light and inspect for leaks tonight in a dark area, engine
running.  Diesel fuel has some additive that fluoresces under ultraviolet
light.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] OT cyber warfare and self-driving cars

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Some interesting insights and connecting of dots.  Curly will love this!

-or-

Inspiration to keep driving our old analog non-connected and un-hackable
cars.

Short version for most of us:
http://www.weeklystandard.com/terrorists-could-use-teslas-to-kill-us/article/2011171


Long version for STEM nerds:
https://www.zachaysan.com/writing/2018-01-17-self-crashing-cars



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Re: [MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

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If you think it could be a high pressure line leak, then be very careful 
looking for it. Do not run your fingers around in there when the motor 
is running.


If you cannot find it, you likely will when it gets a bit worse.

RB

On 17/01/2018 1:15 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

85 300td is leaking diesel somewhere, but motor and pump are dry under
hood.  Have been noticing smell for a week or so. Parking at work today I
noticed a vapor coming up out of the left-sided Fender Hood joint which
smelled like unburned diesel but looked like smoke. This is the same smell
I've been noticing on the road. Seem to potentially be a small fuel puddle
under where the injection pump is also when left running in park, but I
dont see the dripping . I don't see anything coming off the filter
associated fittings nothing off the return lines on the injectors nothing
off the hard injector lines on the pump, and I'm a bit confused as to where
this is all coming from. It almost must be one of the main supply lines to
the injection pump. Anybody have this syndrome before? Maybe a high
pressure line leak vaporizing the diesel? It is running fine, no miss.

Thanks for any thoughts,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] How much is this worth?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Perhaps, the timing chain clatters so much, it "sounds like a diesel" and
being ignorant of what he actually has posted it as "diesel".

You know, because it's "Mercedes" and they are "all diesels".

Guess the air blows cold and it ran when parked, also?

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:30 AM, MG via Mercedes 
wrote:

> It does have the manifold vacuum/fuel mileage gauge for whatever that is
> worth. Someone should contact him and find out.
>
> MG
>
> OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Maybe he put Diesel fuel in it, and now it won't run, so his "mechanic
>> buddy" said it needs a "timing belt" - we all know about all those Diesel
>> Mercedes . . . .
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Just did a search on the inter-web and found nothing about a diesel engine
>>> ever being available for a "380 SL"  only listing says it came with
>>> V8
>>> Gas engine
>>>
>>> Soo... if it really IS diesel. it's a Unicorn of Cars... grab
>>> it..
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> If the chain had been updated, then it would not need a "timing belt."

 Dwight Giles via Mercedes 

> January 16, 2018 at 5:26 PM
> A million dollars? Diesel sl has to be rare.
> Seriously My MB Indy said 80 & 81,380sl's have single chain. Those,are
> problematic? If chain has been updated 2k sounds right?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT FOR WILTON -- Prisoners of War in the US

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Here is a list of ALL the POW camps in USA, also, some details of a few of
the camps, with dates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_World_War_II_prisoner-of-war_camps_in_the_United_States

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 5:14 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not actually southie but south of there
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
>
> On Jan 16, 2018 11:53 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Wait, what?  Guineas in Southie?  WTF?  That ain’t right!  I guess they
> > would know better than to try to escape. Likely be worse getting out of
> > Southie than fighting in yurp and their survival chances would be lowah.
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> > > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > There,was,an Italian internment camp in Boston near where,UMass Boston
> is
> > > now on Columbia Point.
> > >
> > > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > > Wickford RI
> > >
> > > On Jan 16, 2018 10:23 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I found this one, documenting Italian POWs at Ackley, IA  I am not
> sure
> > >> what camp they were housed at.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/7fxxpr/italian_
> > >> pows_on_my_grandfathers_farm_summer_1944/
> > >>
> > >> The first article I linked said some Italians were sent to Clarinda,
> but
> > >> the algona camp would have been a lot closer to Ackley.  There was a
> > >> vegetable canning plant in Ackley so it is likely a branch camp was
> > there,
> > >> but I did not find any reference to it.
> > >>
> > >> Lots of lost memory as that generation dies off.
> > >>
> > >>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > >>> January 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
> > >>> There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods south of Kenora during the
> > war
> > >>> too. I am told that they even gave the prisoners guns and let them go
> > >>> hunting. No worries I guess as these guys had it made in the shade.
> No
> > way
> > >>> they wanted to escape and go back to the war. They spent the rest of
> > the
> > >>> war being treated pretty well.
> > >>> There was, until only a few years ago, one of the former prisoners
> who
> > >>> owned a cottage in the area and came back every summer from Germany.
> > >>>
> > >>> RB
> > >>>
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[MBZ] unburned diesel vapor

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

85 300td is leaking diesel somewhere, but motor and pump are dry under
hood.  Have been noticing smell for a week or so. Parking at work today I
noticed a vapor coming up out of the left-sided Fender Hood joint which
smelled like unburned diesel but looked like smoke. This is the same smell
I've been noticing on the road. Seem to potentially be a small fuel puddle
under where the injection pump is also when left running in park, but I
dont see the dripping . I don't see anything coming off the filter
associated fittings nothing off the return lines on the injectors nothing
off the hard injector lines on the pump, and I'm a bit confused as to where
this is all coming from. It almost must be one of the main supply lines to
the injection pump. Anybody have this syndrome before? Maybe a high
pressure line leak vaporizing the diesel? It is running fine, no miss.

Thanks for any thoughts,
Karl
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My grandmother is 98, last I knew she was 5th oldest in the assisted living 
facility...

-Curt






On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 12:08:07 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote: 






> On January 17, 2018 at 11:45 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerry sez:
> 
> >‎New Englanders don't seem to have any >pet names.
> 
> Damn Yankees.

When you get to be Gerry's age, I think your pet name in Maine is Young Feller. 

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

A few years ago I went to a TV station in South Carolina. They offered to take 
me to "The best BBQ in South Carolina". I figured in a state known for BBQ this 
ought to be great.So they take me to this Morton building that used to be a 
machine shop, you could still smell the machine oil. The BBQ was great, not the 
best I've ever had but top 10 for sure.After lunch they asked "Wasn't that the 
best BBQ you've ever had?" I should have just said yes but I let the truth get 
the better of me."Well where is the best BBQ you've ever had?"Honestly its 
Buck's Naked BBQ, Freeport, Maine.
Thats when I became the "Gawd damn Yankee, don't know a gawd damn thing about 
BBQ!"
-Curt


On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 11:45:27 AM EST, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Gerry sez:

>‎New Englanders don't seem to have any >pet names.

Damn Yankees.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 "New Englanders don't seem to have any pet names."
Wha? I live in the land of Massholes. Mainers (the proper term) are often 
referred to as "Maniacs" which we consider derogatory from you flatlanders.
Do Floridians have a pet name? The state does, its God's Waiting Room after all 
but I've never heard of one for the people...

-Curt

On Wednesday, January 17, 2018, 3:14:33 AM EST, archer75--- via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:26:08 -0600
Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

> On 16/01/2018 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
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> >
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> 
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Curt can sit on the bike; he's tough. Maine people are immune to cold wind.

BTW, what do you call someone from Maine? Wisconsinites are cheeseheads, people 
from Ohio are Buckeyes, Hoosiers live in Indiana; but New Englanders don't seem 
to have any pet names.
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Re: [MBZ] OT cutting and installing Formica

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

For something that spins at constant speed HF is probably fine. I bought one of 
their <$20 grinders last summer, the switch is kinda cheap and crappy but the 
rest of the grinder is great, nearly as good as my $100+ Makita. I've also got 
one of their 6" grinders which I think is the same motor as the smaller one, 
that one is a bit under-powered but also a good grinder.
-Curt
 

On Tuesday, January 16, 2018, 11:45:55 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Just get the little 1/4” router. You don’t need a big one, it would be more of 
a problem. The HF will be fine for a small quick job. If you want a better one 
the dewalt or Bosch Colt is good. Porter cable probably make one too, they are 
like $100 compared to the $20 HF. 

The bits are where you spend the money. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On Jan 16, 2018, at 5:54 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> there used to be (a lot of) special laminate trimmer routers sold.  With even 
> a double wide having rock installed, there is not much market for laminate 
> trimmers any more.  But that is the right tool for the job.
> 
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>> January 16, 2018 at 4:20 PM
>> Well now I have a great excuse - er, PROJECT for which to buy a router! HF
>> trip tomorrow...
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brings back inline 6

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Straight 8's cool-flatheads in Pontiacs, overhead valves n Buicks.
IIRC we had a big Continental one in our 1939 Seagraves ladder truck.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 12:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

> One can only hope that a straight eight is next . . .
>
> On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
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> bow
> > ties and hire some good German engineers, and go back to the DIN in place
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> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brings back inline 6

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> On January 17, 2018 at 12:32 PM OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> One can only hope that a straight eight is next . . .

The whole point of an I6, IMO, is the perfect primary and secondary balance of 
the design, something shared with V-12s and 90° V-Twins. Nothing else is like 
being able to set a coin on top of a running engine and having it stay put. 

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brings back inline 6

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One can only hope that a straight eight is next . . .

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes <
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> Hopefully it’s not churned out in that Nissan plant in Tennessee!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> >
> > That is nothing but positive.  Now if they could manage to fire some bow
> ties and hire some good German engineers, and go back to the DIN in place
> of that awful ISO, things would improve in MB land.
> >
> >> Dimitri via Mercedes 
> >> January 16, 2018 at 7:36 PM
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

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> On January 17, 2018 at 11:45 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Gerry sez:
> 
> >‎New Englanders don't seem to have any >pet names.
> 
> Damn Yankees.

When you get to be Gerry's age, I think your pet name in Maine is Young Feller. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Gerry sez:

>‎New Englanders don't seem to have any >pet names.

Damn Yankees.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Abbey Road driver

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Speaking of Abbey Road, there is/was a rather pleasant gentlemen's club 
right near where the studios are/were.  They would run your credit card 
as a restaurant name so your corporate expense account looked kosher.


(Details related to me by a friend)

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Re: [MBZ] How much is this worth?

[MG via Mercedes]

It does have the manifold vacuum/fuel mileage gauge for whatever 
that is worth. Someone should contact him and find out.


MG

OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe he put Diesel fuel in it, and now it won't run, so his "mechanic
buddy" said it needs a "timing belt" - we all know about all those Diesel
Mercedes . . . .

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:39 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:


Just did a search on the inter-web and found nothing about a diesel engine
ever being available for a "380 SL"  only listing says it came with V8
Gas engine

Soo... if it really IS diesel. it's a Unicorn of Cars... grab
it..

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 6:15 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


If the chain had been updated, then it would not need a "timing belt."

Dwight Giles via Mercedes 

January 16, 2018 at 5:26 PM
A million dollars? Diesel sl has to be rare.
Seriously My MB Indy said 80 & 81,380sl's have single chain. Those,are
problematic? If chain has been updated 2k sounds right?

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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Re: [MBZ] OT FOR WILTON -- Prisoners of War in the US

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Not actually southie but south of there

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Jan 16, 2018 11:53 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wait, what?  Guineas in Southie?  WTF?  That ain’t right!  I guess they
> would know better than to try to escape. Likely be worse getting out of
> Southie than fighting in yurp and their survival chances would be lowah.
>
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:48 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > There,was,an Italian internment camp in Boston near where,UMass Boston is
> > now on Columbia Point.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> > On Jan 16, 2018 10:23 PM, "Curley McLain via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I found this one, documenting Italian POWs at Ackley, IA  I am not sure
> >> what camp they were housed at.
> >>
> >> https://www.reddit.com/r/wwiipics/comments/7fxxpr/italian_
> >> pows_on_my_grandfathers_farm_summer_1944/
> >>
> >> The first article I linked said some Italians were sent to Clarinda, but
> >> the algona camp would have been a lot closer to Ackley.  There was a
> >> vegetable canning plant in Ackley so it is likely a branch camp was
> there,
> >> but I did not find any reference to it.
> >>
> >> Lots of lost memory as that generation dies off.
> >>
> >>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> >>> January 16, 2018 at 4:47 PM
> >>> There were POW camps on Lake of the Woods south of Kenora during the
> war
> >>> too. I am told that they even gave the prisoners guns and let them go
> >>> hunting. No worries I guess as these guys had it made in the shade. No
> way
> >>> they wanted to escape and go back to the war. They spent the rest of
> the
> >>> war being treated pretty well.
> >>> There was, until only a few years ago, one of the former prisoners who
> >>> owned a cottage in the area and came back every summer from Germany.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Turbo hose

[MG via Mercedes]

Were the brown tubes on the wrong way around? That at least 
should be the same on all the cars. There are so many diagrams, 
even for the same engine that it's sometimes hard to tell which 
to use.


MG

clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

The lines were hooked up prior to transmission work.  All vac lines were hooked 
back up following official diagram by the tech.  Car came back to me with 
starting issue that was not there before.  I used another diagram from interweb 
(BW) to trace lines.  Used the data provided here to attempt fix and solutions. 
 I plucked brown tubes and checked them for goodness, then installed them 
according to the diagram.  Then I pulled the EGR hose.



clay 


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1986 SDL - Polei
1982 300 SD - Allen



On Jan 16, 2018, at 4:53 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

Explain please. If they were unhooked all the time then you would not be able 
to shut the engine off with the key. How, where, when were they unhooked and 
what were the results of that before any other changes.

MG

clay monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Brown lines were unhooked and messed with


On Jan 15, 2018, at 6:10 AM, MG via Mercedes  wrote:

IF it failed in the open position wouldn't it be open all the time even without 
the vac hooked up? The only thing I can see the vac doing is opening it up 
after the first start as the vac is building up. Then it gets held open all the 
time, till the vac all goes away, which would give power problems when driving 
also. It also shows that all the vac line routing on the engine is screwed up 
cause the EGR isn't supposed to get vac except at specific times controlled by 
the valves on top of the valve cover. At least on the 617.

What I want to know is did Clay change the brown lines around?

I can't really see enough exhaust getting through that small hole in the EGR to 
cause hard starting but then the proof seems to be there. Also gives another 
reason to block the EGR.

MG


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Re: [MBZ] OT cutting and installing Formica

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks again guys, have harbor freight coupon, heading that way after work 
today.
-- 
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'95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] OT cutting and installing Formica

[MG via Mercedes]

Get the clamp on saw guide. That will work as an easy to use 
router guide. Look in magazines for 20% off coupons if you don't 
have any.


Mg

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Well now I have a great excuse - er, PROJECT for which to buy a router!  HF
trip tomorrow...

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:06 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Put blue tape on both sides of the cut line to make the cut cleaner.  If
it is an "inside" cut I would clamp a straightedge to the laminate on a
flat surface (sheet of plywood or something fairly stiff on some sawhorses
for a "bench" top so you can clamp all around it) and run a router with a
straight bit along the guide to get an exact clean cut.  Just offset your
straightedge guide from cut line by whatever distance from the edge of the
router base to the bit  and clamp it all with the cut line just hanging
over the edge of your "bench" so it is mostly supported. A router cut is
very clean and will be dead straight (or as straight as your guide).  I
find a saw does tear the cut line a bit, even a fine tooth blade, so I have
always used a router for the cuts.

--FT



On 1/16/18 4:43 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


OK thanks for all the input guys, keep 'em coming if anything else comes
to
mind.

Rick - question on the meaning of "both sides".  Do you mean tape on the
top (visible side) and on the back of the formica, or something else?
Tape
down, draw the line over the tape, and make cut through the tape, right?

I'm pretty sure that all the pieces I'm considering will either be on a
cabinet side (end of the kitchen island) or inside (under the kitchen
sink)
so I won't have the luxury of finishing the edge with a router.  Flip side
of that coin is that the edges will be either caulked or covered with
trim.

-
Max
Charleston SC

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 3:53 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Max asks:

‎My main question right now is cutting >the stuff, do I need a special
saw /


saw blade or technique?


Use a fine crosscut blade (like for veneer plywood), and apply tape to
both sides of the area to be cut.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Abbey Road driver

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I would be more interested in Lennon’s 300TD.  For the diesel wagon aspect, 
that is.

-D

> On Jan 16, 2018, at 11:57 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Speaking of gaga, Lady Gaga drives a 300D.  Beautiful blue, it was her 
> granddad’s. She’s kinda cute too 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 10:19 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I understand how some people might go gaga over him but as far as I’m 
>> concerned he’s just another scummy rockstar. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jan 16, 2018, at 9:30 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Is that a joke?  Millions care about Lennon.  He was an icon who achieved 
>>> martyrdom.
>>> 
 On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 Classic center is selling a fully restored 65 for $250k. I’d rather buy 
 that. Who really cares about John Lennon.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jan 16, 2018, at 6:57 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> John Lennon's Pagoda is in Hemmings for $295k. 1965 230sl  custom order 
> rhd.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Curt needs a new snowmobile hauler

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 16:26:08 -0600
Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:

> On 16/01/2018 3:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> > https://78.media.tumblr.com/e535f45b89e71c61921706d72ea9e096/tumblr_p23l828PGa1ttxfeno1_1280.jpg
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> You think there is enough room in that cab for Angie to sit on Curt's knee?
> 
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Curt can sit on the bike; he's tough. Maine people are immune to cold wind.

BTW, what do you call someone from Maine? Wisconsinites are cheeseheads, people 
from Ohio are Buckeyes, Hoosiers live in Indiana; but New Englanders don't seem 
to have any pet names.
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