Re: [MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Remove screw in middle too

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Listers:
> Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83 240D? 
> I  removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small screw out 
> at the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up out of the 
> slots that hold it, if I remember correctly.
> The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but the 
> right one seems to be stuck.
> This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold in 
> the U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
> I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
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Re: [MBZ] M116 exhaust

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ok!  Thanks all!  I ordered 8 from FCP for $24.   Importec was $4.77 each.


M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 10:33 PM

Yeah, one per cylinder, if memory serves.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 10:30 PM

I think so

And Peter!

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[MBZ] Removing 240D rear Seat Back

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Listers:
Can someone tell me how to remove the back of the back seat from an '83 240D? I 
 removed the seat bottom with no trouble, and took out the small screw out at 
the lower corners of the back, but it doesn't want to slide up out of the slots 
that hold it, if I remember correctly.
The left side seems loose in the slot, and will come up part way, but the right 
one seems to be stuck.
This car was picked up in Germany and has several things that those sold in the 
U.S. don't have, but it seems like the seats would be the same.
I'm trying to do a Martha on it.
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] M116 exhaust

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

Yeah, one per cylinder, if memory serves.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:30 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think so
>
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> > On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > It appears that the exhaust manifold gaskets for the M116/117 are one
> gasket for each cyl, not one left and one right, with 4 cyl each.
> >
> > Is this correct?  OKLAHOMA boys?
> >
> > Anyone else know?
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Re: [MBZ] M116 exhaust

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I think so

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:53 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It appears that the exhaust manifold gaskets for the M116/117 are one gasket 
> for each cyl, not one left and one right, with 4 cyl each.
> 
> Is this correct?  OKLAHOMA boys?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M116 exhaust

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I believe that is so, I'll think a bit.  I replaced a manifold on the 280SE 
4.5, left side.



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Re: [MBZ] With RFS reform bills, Congressmen intend to preserve mark | Hemmings Daily

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

And they put heet, or something similar into the tank to disperse any 
water in the tank or fuel.   Denatured Ethyl Alcohol, or Methyl 
Alcohol.   Thus making their own E-whatever.


Morons.   Using E 10 disperses any water, and works fine without extra 
additives.   E10 can be E 0 up to E 10.





Max Dillon via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 9:13 PM
I noticed the new gas station a few blocks from my neighborhood has 
some ethanol free pumps. Dead motor on a boat is no fun, many boaters 
in the area, they will gladly pay more for E0 fuel.


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[MBZ] M116 exhaust

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It appears that the exhaust manifold gaskets for the M116/117 are one 
gasket for each cyl, not one left and one right, with 4 cyl each.


Is this correct?  OKLAHOMA boys?

Anyone else know?

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Re: [MBZ] With RFS reform bills, Congressmen intend to preserve mark | Hemmings Daily

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I noticed the new gas station a few blocks from my neighborhood has some 
ethanol free pumps.  Dead motor on a boat is no fun, many boaters in the area, 
they will gladly pay more for E0 fuel.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

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 wrote:
>https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/03/19/with-rfs-reform-bills-congressmen-intend-to-preserve-market-for-ethanol-free-fuel/?refer=news
>
>Maybe We can get some 0% EOTH gas,for lawn mowers,& m110 engines.
>(Mercedes
>content)
>Dwight Giles Jr.
>Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Something for Jim

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

clay wrote:
> Or Dan of the mountains.

That's me.
SWMBA is gonna turn the clay residence to rental - maybe a nice touch
for all things clay.
Does anyone else have rental that might be available for Dan of the mountains?
Yes, tin.man is on the edge of existence with adults in the basement
fathered by moi.
Dunno how to think (yes, the birds and the flowers are seen) but
rent/utilities takes all that I get from you workers funding the trust
fund for me.  Adults in basement cover most food.  So, that equals not
much better than has ever been for Dan of the mountains except that
heart/mind is going to plug in to one of those 12v outlets of the fine
generator in SeaTac area these days w/o partner... it really is sad.
Yes, topic robbing by Dan of the maontins.
tin.man

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[MBZ] With RFS reform bills, Congressmen intend to preserve mark | Hemmings Daily

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/2018/03/19/with-rfs-reform-bills-congressmen-intend-to-preserve-market-for-ethanol-free-fuel/?refer=news

Maybe We can get some 0% EOTH gas,for lawn mowers,& m110 engines. (Mercedes
content)
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Custom 123 bumper

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I wonder what power it needs - - -

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 6:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

>
>
> Yeah, but what you really need is this:
>
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/airplane-
> engine-hoist-wwii/6534314079.html
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>

-- 
OK Don

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many of
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learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BTW, I use my horn sparingly.  Too much road rage lurking in a dormant
state..

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> When I got home I noticed I had no seat belt warning buzzer.  Replaced
> blown fuse 14 (similar functions on the same circuit) and horn awoke.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> Be careful what you wish for.
>> Are you sure you want Andrew down there?
>>
>> RB
>>
>>
>>
>> On 19/03/2018 4:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> You need to move further south into more genteel regions where seldom is
>>> heard a discouraging horn...
>>>
>>> Except we are getting flooded now with Ohioans and Massholes who don't
>>> have such genteel ways...
>>>
>>> --FT
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/19/18 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>>
 It's strange driving around without one. Makes me super cautious.  It
 had
 been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.

 On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

 It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>
>> March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
>>
>> My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's
>> called the
>> "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1983 300TD has lost it's voice
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

When I got home I noticed I had no seat belt warning buzzer.  Replaced
blown fuse 14 (similar functions on the same circuit) and horn awoke.




On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:57 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Be careful what you wish for.
> Are you sure you want Andrew down there?
>
> RB
>
>
>
> On 19/03/2018 4:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> You need to move further south into more genteel regions where seldom is
>> heard a discouraging horn...
>>
>> Except we are getting flooded now with Ohioans and Massholes who don't
>> have such genteel ways...
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>
>> On 3/19/18 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>
>>> It's strange driving around without one. Makes me super cautious.  It had
>>> been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.

 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 

> March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
>
> My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called
> the
> "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?
>
> Andrew
> 1983 300TD has lost it's voice
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes I learned that the hard way after I moved to Nashville from NYS.1.
First time I laid on the horn  I  got stares all around. Took me awhile to
learn the culture of politeness. Miss it now commuting into Boston with
Masshole drivers on the expressway. .

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 19, 2018 5:55 PM, "Floyd Thursby via Mercedes" 
wrote:

> You need to move further south into more genteel regions where seldom is
> heard a discouraging horn...
>
> Except we are getting flooded now with Ohioans and Massholes who don't
> have such genteel ways...
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 3/19/18 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> It's strange driving around without one.  Makes me super cautious.  It had
>> been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>> It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.
>>>
>>> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>>
 March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM

 My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called
 the
 "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?

 Andrew
 1983 300TD has lost it's voice

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Re: [MBZ] Custom 123 bumper

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The coyote catcher is worth $1500


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 6:26 PM
1983 Mercedes 240D

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d/6535709260.html



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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Drive it!


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 5:42 PM
Well the car sat since yesterday and it’s cold out today. I went out 
and tried to start the car and it fired right up like it was nothing. 
I guess after the initial start yesterday after sitting a year now 
it’s going to be fine even with the current glow plug setup. Now to 
decide if I want to drive this jalopy for a while or swap the motor 
into my other car.




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Re: [MBZ] Custom 123 bumper

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep 

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 6:50 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:26:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> 1983 Mercedes 240D
>> 
>> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d/6535709260.html
> 
> Yeah, but what you really need is this:
> 
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/airplane-engine-hoist-wwii/6534314079.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The First Law was not implemented in this release of Google Autonomous Vehicle software

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Death Race 2018 starting the ghost of David Carradine!

Curt

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  On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:47 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:   Driver less cars. What could possibly go wrong with that. I routinely 
drive
in Arizona and have observed firsthand how many people are behind the wheel
and NOT paying attention anyway...

Perhaps, we can just make it a national spectator sport and call it
"good". sort of a national version of bumper car only with blood
and death...

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> oops
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverles
> s-fatality.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Custom 123 bumper

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Mon, 19 Mar 2018 18:26:27 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> 1983 Mercedes 240D
> 
> https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d/6535709260.html

Yeah, but what you really need is this:

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/hvo/d/airplane-engine-hoist-wwii/6534314079.html


Craig

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[MBZ] Custom 123 bumper

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

1983 Mercedes 240D

https://albuquerque.craigslist.org/cto/d/1983-mercedes-240d/6535709260.html


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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Well the car sat since yesterday and it’s cold out today. I went out and tried 
to start the car and it fired right up like it was nothing. I guess after the 
initial start yesterday after sitting a year now it’s going to be fine even 
with the current glow plug setup. Now to decide if I want to drive this jalopy 
for a while or swap the motor into my other car. 

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18  Mar 2018 15:05:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
>  wrote:
> 
>> In the parallel style 12 volts go to each one, correct? Will the
>> toaster wires work with the pencil style plugs or does it need the loop
>> style?
> 
> The toaster wires will work only with the loop-style plugs. The wires are
> not copper, they are most likely an alloy of nickle and chrome, like the
> wires that glow in a plug-in-the-wall space heater.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The First Law was not implemented in this release of Google Autonomous Vehicle software

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Thinning the herd - she must not have looked before walking into the
street, or expected any car present to see her and stop - which is very
risky under any circumstance. How many pedestrians are hit and killed every
day?

Well: "In 2015, 5,376 pedestrians were killed in traffic crashes in the
United States.1 This averages to *one crash-related pedestrian death every
1.6 hours*.1"
1. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Traffic Safety Facts
2015 Data – Pedestrians. Washington, DC: US Department of Transportation,
National Highway Traffic Safety Administration; 20175. Publication no.
DOT-HS-812-375. Available at
https://crashstats.nhtsa.dot.gov/Api/Public/ViewPublication/812375
. Accessed May 19, 2017.


On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Driver less cars. What could possibly go wrong with that. I routinely drive
> in Arizona and have observed firsthand how many people are behind the wheel
> and NOT paying attention anyway...
>
> Perhaps, we can just make it a national spectator sport and call it
> "good". sort of a national version of bumper car only with blood
> and death...
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > oops
> >
> > https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverles
> > s-fatality.html
> >
> > --
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The First Law was not implemented in this release of Google Autonomous Vehicle software

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Maybe it will be "innovative" and quick like the building of that 
pedestrian bridge in Florida.


RB

On 19/03/2018 4:46 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Driver less cars. What could possibly go wrong with that. I routinely drive
in Arizona and have observed firsthand how many people are behind the wheel
and NOT paying attention anyway...

Perhaps, we can just make it a national spectator sport and call it
"good". sort of a national version of bumper car only with blood
and death...

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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oops

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverles
s-fatality.html

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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Be careful what you wish for.
Are you sure you want Andrew down there?

RB


On 19/03/2018 4:54 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
You need to move further south into more genteel regions where seldom 
is heard a discouraging horn...


Except we are getting flooded now with Ohioans and Massholes who don't 
have such genteel ways...


--FT


On 3/19/18 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
It's strange driving around without one. Makes me super cautious.  It 
had

been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of 
you.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 

March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM

My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's 
called the

"optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?

Andrew
1983 300TD has lost it's voice


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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You need to move further south into more genteel regions where seldom is 
heard a discouraging horn...


Except we are getting flooded now with Ohioans and Massholes who don't 
have such genteel ways...


--FT


On 3/19/18 4:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It's strange driving around without one.  Makes me super cautious.  It had
been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 

March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM

My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called the
"optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?

Andrew
1983 300TD has lost it's voice


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The First Law was not implemented in this release of Google Autonomous Vehicle software

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Driver less cars. What could possibly go wrong with that. I routinely drive
in Arizona and have observed firsthand how many people are behind the wheel
and NOT paying attention anyway...

Perhaps, we can just make it a national spectator sport and call it
"good". sort of a national version of bumper car only with blood
and death...

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 2:28 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> oops
>
> https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverles
> s-fatality.html
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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The horn it good. It is your ears that went bad. Get hearing aides.

RB


On 19/03/2018 4:09 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, I get it.  You need to take a timeout.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


As I said...

Max Dillon via Mercedes 

March 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM
The optical horn is high beam headlights.



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[MBZ] OT: The First Law was not implemented in this release of Google Autonomous Vehicle software

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

oops

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/19/technology/uber-driverless-fatality.html

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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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Yeah, I get it.  You need to take a timeout.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:00 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As I said...
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2018 at 3:47 PM
>> The optical horn is high beam headlights.
>>
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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As I said...


Max Dillon via Mercedes 
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The optical horn is high beam headlights.



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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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Glad I asked.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:51 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Use your finger. Sunroof is good.
>
> Dwight Giles Jr.
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>
> On Mar 19, 2018 4:43 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It's strange driving around without one.  Makes me super cautious.  It
> had
> > been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of
> you.
> > >
> > > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > >> March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
> > >>
> > >> My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called
> > the
> > >> "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?
> > >>
> > >> Andrew
> > >> 1983 300TD has lost it's voice
> > >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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Use your finger. Sunroof is good.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Mar 19, 2018 4:43 PM, "Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes" <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's strange driving around without one.  Makes me super cautious.  It had
> been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.
> >
> > Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> >> March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
> >>
> >> My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called
> the
> >> "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?
> >>
> >> Andrew
> >> 1983 300TD has lost it's voice
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

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The optical horn is high beam headlights, nothing to do with the "regular" horn.
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It's strange driving around without one.  Makes me super cautious.  It had
been a little hoarse but never silent like this before.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 4:33 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>> March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
>>
>> My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called the
>> "optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?
>>
>> Andrew
>> 1983 300TD has lost it's voice
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is the horn that flashes in the optical nerves of those ahead of you.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 3:30 PM
My horn went completely silent while I was away. Is this what's called the
"optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?

Andrew
1983 300TD has lost it's voice


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[MBZ] W123 horn fuse 1983 300TD

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My horn went completely silent while I was away.  Is this what's called the
"optical horn" that shares the same circuit as the w/s wipers?

Andrew
1983 300TD has lost it's voice
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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Amazing what people will scrounge...

However, I had five 4 foot shop light fixtures, four of them with lamps. I put 
them out the night before trash day twice, and they were left untouched.  I 
forgot to pick them up the second time, and when the lawn guys came by to do my 
neighbor’s lawn the next day they picked them up

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 19:31:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Kind of like the leaking 80 gallon water heater I had in my basement in
>> the house in Indianapolis.  Couldn’t get anyone to remove it when the
>> new one was installed, so I put it on CL for free.  Within an hour I
>> had a scrap guy and his son come get it.  They hauled it up the stairs
>> (which had a bend, making it a real PITA) and didn’t even bang up the
>> walls in the process.
> 
> When we were remodeling our house in Los Alamos, we put the carpeting on
> freecycle and people came to get them. They rolled up the carpets and
> hauled them out of the house and took them away. It worked very well and
> eliminated a lot of work for us (and me, particularly, who had neck
> surgery recently at the time).
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good to know. I knew there was stuff for adhesion, but not to make it flexible. 
Cool!

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 1:05 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Dan sez:
> 
>> I’m not aware of anything that makes it more flexible.
> 
> Yep. 
> 
> https://youtu.be/iQygkSn-rvE
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 19:31:29 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Kind of like the leaking 80 gallon water heater I had in my basement in
> the house in Indianapolis.  Couldn’t get anyone to remove it when the
> new one was installed, so I put it on CL for free.  Within an hour I
> had a scrap guy and his son come get it.  They hauled it up the stairs
> (which had a bend, making it a real PITA) and didn’t even bang up the
> walls in the process.

When we were remodeling our house in Los Alamos, we put the carpeting on
freecycle and people came to get them. They rolled up the carpets and
hauled them out of the house and took them away. It worked very well and
eliminated a lot of work for us (and me, particularly, who had neck
surgery recently at the time).


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT Whirlpool warrant support

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Today was the appointment with the Whirlpool approved technician for the
warranty repair, but they never showed.  Guy from the shop calls me up and
I tell him about the error code and the problem with the serial number.  He
says their database is bad and quite often won't recognize the serial
number.  He asks me to send him a picture of the rating label with the
model and serial number, and a picture of the purchase receipt, and he'll
order the part (control board) under warranty and then come out and install
it and that should take care of the issue with one visit.  Sweet.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 15:05:21 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> In the parallel style 12 volts go to each one, correct? Will the
> toaster wires work with the pencil style plugs or does it need the loop
> style?

The toaster wires will work only with the loop-style plugs. The wires are
not copper, they are most likely an alloy of nickle and chrome, like the
wires that glow in a plug-in-the-wall space heater.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Here's a link to a Dupont PDF for information on it. 


http://www.polybilt.com/pdf/tech_data/Painting-Instructions.pdf

And a brief video tutorial on painting plastic. I don't think he discusses 
flexible additives though. 

https://youtu.be/fmXFTntxUbM

https://youtu.be/X1eM1AtuUKA

Almost went down the rabbit hole...

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 18 Mar 2018 14:56:08 -0500 "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
 wrote:

> I’m sure it probably needs a valve adjustment. All the conversions I
> have seen have the jumper wires installed. The original style had the
> toaster wires which I guess works the same doesn’t it? 

No. The toaster wires drop the battery voltage to what the four
loop-style glow plugs in SERIES can handle.

With the conversion to PARALLEL plugs, the best way to wire is to have a
wire from each plug to the relay (which is what was done on the later
W123s). With the way yours is wired, the jumper from #3 to #4 carries the
current of three plugs.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Dan sez:

>I’m not aware of anything that makes it more flexible.

Yep. 

https://youtu.be/iQygkSn-rvE

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Max.

mojoparts.com $138. (Nov. 29 2016)

Part number. 1248802570

Fred.


Fred Moir.
Lynn MA.
Diesel preferred.



From: Mercedes  on behalf of Max Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 19 March 2018 12:37
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Max Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

Yes please.
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

There are definitely primers or surface preparation chemicals to get paint to 
stick to plastic, I’m not aware of anything that makes it more flexible.

If you’re painting a primered or previously painted surface, it’s not required 
unless you sand down to the plastic.

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 12:08 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I seem to recall there is an additive for painting plastic to make the
> paint "flexible" so it bonds well over the life of the bumper and it's
> flex.
> Might want to speak to your paint supplier about that.
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Max.
>> 
>> For my (late) W124.193 i bought an whole aftermarket bumper for $151
>> delivered.
>> 
>> Parts Train, I think. I could look it up if you are interested?
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> 
>> Fred Moir.
>> Lynn MA.
>> Diesel preferred.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon
>> via Mercedes 
>> Sent: 19 March 2018 09:55
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List
>> Cc: Meade Dillon
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper
>> 
>> My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
>> strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
>> the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?
>> 
>> I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
>> Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
>> parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
>> in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
>> to ship the bumper.
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Kaleb.

Primered.

Fred.


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From: Mercedes  on behalf of Kaleb C. Striplin 
via Mercedes 
Sent: 19 March 2018 12:09
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

Was it already painted or did you have to paint it?

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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Yes please.  
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 19, 2018 11:56:33 AM EDT, Fred Moir via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>Max.
>
>For my (late) W124.193 i bought an whole aftermarket bumper for $151
>delivered.
>
>Parts Train, I think. I could look it up if you are interested?
>
>Fred
>
>
>Fred Moir.
>Lynn MA.
>Diesel preferred.
>
>
>
>From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade
>Dillon via Mercedes 
>Sent: 19 March 2018 09:55
>To: Mercedes Discussion List
>Cc: Meade Dillon
>Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper
>
>My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The
>impact
>strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know
>that
>the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?
>
>I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
>Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
>parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a
>sedan
>in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him
>$100
>to ship the bumper.
>
>-
>Max
>Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Was it already painted or did you have to paint it?

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 10:56 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Max.
> 
> For my (late) W124.193 i bought an whole aftermarket bumper for $151 
> delivered.
> 
> Parts Train, I think. I could look it up if you are interested?
> 
> Fred
> 
> 
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon via 
> Mercedes 
> Sent: 19 March 2018 09:55
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper
> 
> My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
> strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
> the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?
> 
> I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
> Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
> parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
> in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
> to ship the bumper.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[G Mann via Mercedes]

I seem to recall there is an additive for painting plastic to make the
paint "flexible" so it bonds well over the life of the bumper and it's
flex.
Might want to speak to your paint supplier about that.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 8:56 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Max.
>
> For my (late) W124.193 i bought an whole aftermarket bumper for $151
> delivered.
>
> Parts Train, I think. I could look it up if you are interested?
>
> Fred
>
>
> Fred Moir.
> Lynn MA.
> Diesel preferred.
>
>
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon
> via Mercedes 
> Sent: 19 March 2018 09:55
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Cc: Meade Dillon
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper
>
> My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
> strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
> the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?
>
> I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
> Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
> parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
> in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
> to ship the bumper.
>
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Fred Moir via Mercedes]

Max.

For my (late) W124.193 i bought an whole aftermarket bumper for $151 delivered.

Parts Train, I think. I could look it up if you are interested?

Fred


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From: Mercedes  on behalf of Meade Dillon via 
Mercedes 
Sent: 19 March 2018 09:55
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Cc: Meade Dillon
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?

I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
to ship the bumper.

-
Max
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] It’s Green!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

https://tinyurl.com/ybjyezyn

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Check part numbers in the EPC, as the cab’s bumper may be different than the 
sedans.

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:55 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
> strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
> the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?
> 
> I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
> Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
> parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
> in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
> to ship the bumper.
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Max,
>> 
>> I don’t recall it being anything difficult. The eldest son’s bumper strip
>> was sort of rough and I looked into replacing it. The stock part comes in
>> black and isn’t expensive, like maybe $125?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Couldn't you just get one from the junkyard for cheap off an SD or later 
D or something?


Which reminds me I need to put that on the list of things to get next 
time Max and I go to the knackers


--FT


On 3/19/18 10:25 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Weel, about 5 yrs ago, the 1980- relay was $350 up, and the 81+ 
was 75-$125.  I think I got $250-275 for the used 80- relay  on fleabay.


Roger, I'll dig around.  I am sure I  saved a file with the 
instructions also.   Start by scrounging the 2 plugs for the 81+ relay 
at the P    Grab them and the relay and cut 12-24" pigtails on each 
plug.   Generally, the P will only charge you for the relay as long 
as the plugs are still plugged into the relay.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 8:57 AM
Roger - understand that Curley's concept of expensive is any part 
over $20

and any car over $501

;)

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Weel,about 5 yrs ago, the 1980- relay was $350 up, and the 81+ 
was 75-$125.  I think I got $250-275 for the used 80- relay  on fleabay.


Roger, I'll dig around.  I am sure I  saved a file with the instructions 
also.   Start by scrounging the 2 plugs for the 81+ relay at the P
Grab them and the relay and cut 12-24" pigtails on each plug.   
Generally, the P will only charge you for the relay as long as the 
plugs are still plugged into the relay.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
March 19, 2018 at 8:57 AM
Roger - understand that Curley's concept of expensive is any part over $20
and any car over $501

;)

-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Hahahahahahahahaha

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> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:57 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Roger - understand that Curley's concept of expensive is any part over $20
> and any car over $501
> 
> ;)
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:49 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Curley,
>> 
>>   Can you send me the rewire details?  Randy Steele (on the other
>> list) sells parts and years back was going to send me the rewire
>> instructions but he never did.  The last relay I purchased for my 80 300SD
>> I got from one of the parts places everyone seems to hate, but it has
>> worked fine now for about 15 yrs. and it wasn't that much more than the 81+
>> at the time.  Have prices changed that much?  I haven't had a need to
>> look.  I have a spare one for my 83 300D.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Roger - understand that Curley's concept of expensive is any part over $20
and any car over $501

;)

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:49 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Curley,
>
>Can you send me the rewire details?  Randy Steele (on the other
> list) sells parts and years back was going to send me the rewire
> instructions but he never did.  The last relay I purchased for my 80 300SD
> I got from one of the parts places everyone seems to hate, but it has
> worked fine now for about 15 yrs. and it wasn't that much more than the 81+
> at the time.  Have prices changed that much?  I haven't had a need to
> look.  I have a spare one for my 83 300D.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

My cabriolet's front bumper is broken up along the bottom edge.  The impact
strip part is fine, I need the rest of the bumper shell.  Do you know that
the price is for a new shell, minus the impact strip?

I've been watching the local pick-n-pull places and nothing's come up.
Just realized I should call a couple of the indie MB garages that keep
parts cars and see if they've got one.  Guy on Benzworld is parting a sedan
in MN, shipping alone will be about $50-60, so I'll probably offer him $100
to ship the bumper.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Max,
>
> I don’t recall it being anything difficult. The eldest son’s bumper strip
> was sort of rough and I looked into replacing it. The stock part comes in
> black and isn’t expensive, like maybe $125?
>
> -D
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Lt Don Wonko 240d

[ROGER HALE via Mercedes]

Curley,

   Can you send me the rewire details?  Randy Steele (on the other list) 
sells parts and years back was going to send me the rewire instructions but he 
never did.  The last relay I purchased for my 80 300SD I got from one of the 
parts places everyone seems to hate, but it has worked fine now for about 15 
yrs. and it wasn't that much more than the 81+ at the time.  Have prices 
changed that much?  I haven't had a need to look.  I have a spare one for my 83 
300D.

Best Wishes,

Roger

Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Max,

I don’t recall it being anything difficult. The eldest son’s bumper strip was 
sort of rough and I looked into replacing it. The stock part comes in black and 
isn’t expensive, like maybe $125?

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 9:15 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Dan, I should remove the old bumper and figure it out as the next step.
> -- 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
> 
>> On March 19, 2018 9:04:28 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> The impact strip is a separate part.  I’m not sure how it’s attached,
>> as I’ve never had one off, but I know it’s sold as a separate part as
>> I’ve looked at replacing one.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks guys, next question.  The prospective "new" bumper is the
>> middle
>>> version, with painted body and chrome, but near-black impact strip,
>> from a
>>> 1990 sedan.  My cabriolet is a '95 so the bumper is all one color. 
>> Impact
>>> strip on my car is fine, can I move that over to the "new" bumper or
>> is
>>> that part integral to the shell?
>>> 
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 I’ve done bumpers with a couple of custom mixed rattle cans from the
>> paint
 guys in WI.  Just sanded and prepped the surfaces, no big deal. 
>> Turned out
 nice and lasted quite a while.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)
> 
> Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything
>> else is
> hanging ok.
> 
> As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain
>> to
> sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and
>> you're a
> hero waiting to happen.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard
>> would
>> it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking
>> for a
>> white bumper?
>> --
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> '87 300TD
>> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks Dan, I should remove the old bumper and figure it out as the next step.
-- 
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Charleston SC
'87 300TD
'95 E300

On March 19, 2018 9:04:28 AM EDT, Dan--- via Mercedes  
wrote:
>The impact strip is a separate part.  I’m not sure how it’s attached,
>as I’ve never had one off, but I know it’s sold as a separate part as
>I’ve looked at replacing one.
>
>-D
>
>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks guys, next question.  The prospective "new" bumper is the
>middle
>> version, with painted body and chrome, but near-black impact strip,
>from a
>> 1990 sedan.  My cabriolet is a '95 so the bumper is all one color. 
>Impact
>> strip on my car is fine, can I move that over to the "new" bumper or
>is
>> that part integral to the shell?
>> 
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve done bumpers with a couple of custom mixed rattle cans from the
>paint
>>> guys in WI.  Just sanded and prepped the surfaces, no big deal. 
>Turned out
>>> nice and lasted quite a while.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)
 
 Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything
>else is
 hanging ok.
 
 As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain
>to
 sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and
>you're a
 hero waiting to happen.
 
 On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
 wrote:
 
> I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard
>would
> it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking
>for a
> white bumper?
> --
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> '87 300TD
> '95 E300
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

The impact strip is a separate part.  I’m not sure how it’s attached, as I’ve 
never had one off, but I know it’s sold as a separate part as I’ve looked at 
replacing one.

-D

> On Mar 19, 2018, at 8:51 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thanks guys, next question.  The prospective "new" bumper is the middle
> version, with painted body and chrome, but near-black impact strip, from a
> 1990 sedan.  My cabriolet is a '95 so the bumper is all one color.  Impact
> strip on my car is fine, can I move that over to the "new" bumper or is
> that part integral to the shell?
> 
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’ve done bumpers with a couple of custom mixed rattle cans from the paint
>> guys in WI.  Just sanded and prepped the surfaces, no big deal.  Turned out
>> nice and lasted quite a while.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)
>>> 
>>> Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything else is
>>> hanging ok.
>>> 
>>> As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain to
>>> sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and you're a
>>> hero waiting to happen.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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>>> wrote:
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 I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard would
 it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking for a
 white bumper?
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks guys, next question.  The prospective "new" bumper is the middle
version, with painted body and chrome, but near-black impact strip, from a
1990 sedan.  My cabriolet is a '95 so the bumper is all one color.  Impact
strip on my car is fine, can I move that over to the "new" bumper or is
that part integral to the shell?

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Max
Charleston SC

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 5:13 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> I’ve done bumpers with a couple of custom mixed rattle cans from the paint
> guys in WI.  Just sanded and prepped the surfaces, no big deal.  Turned out
> nice and lasted quite a while.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)
> >
> > Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything else is
> > hanging ok.
> >
> > As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain to
> > sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and you're a
> > hero waiting to happen.
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard would
> >> it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking for a
> >> white bumper?
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve done bumpers with a couple of custom mixed rattle cans from the paint guys 
in WI.  Just sanded and prepped the surfaces, no big deal.  Turned out nice and 
lasted quite a while.

-D


> On Mar 19, 2018, at 4:46 AM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)
> 
> Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything else is
> hanging ok.
> 
> As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain to
> sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and you're a
> hero waiting to happen.
> 
> On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard would
>> it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking for a
>> white bumper?
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Painting 124 plastic bumper

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Why repaint? Silver looks good with white :-)

Mine are repainted. The impact strips are flaking, but everything else is
hanging ok.

As for difficulty, it is all in the prep. I can see it being a pain to
sand, but the visible panels not too bad. Cheap top feed gun and you're a
hero waiting to happen.

On Sun, Mar 18, 2018, 8:11 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I need a new front bumper in white for my 124 cabriolet.  How hard would
> it be to repaint a silver bumper in white?  Should I keep looking for a
> white bumper?
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