Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Switches, switches, switches. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Ha! Look up Hilton Coliseum in Ames, IA. I still remember an engineering prof telling the city council that it was built on a big berm on a 500 year floor plain and would never flood. It was barely done before it went underwater in 1974. In the more recent floods, they no longer try

Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Yes. Burial was Sunday at the Naval Academy. Arizona law permits Governor to appoint a replacement, which he did. John Kyle now fills the Senate seat.. he retired from Senate a few h years back, is Conservative Republican and has been sworn in... so we in AZ are now "Senatized" Sen. Flake

Re: [MBZ] MBUGLY

2018-09-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
That is a classic! Oh Kaleb!Put this one in the list of classic quotes! (or open the quote list so Dan can add it.) G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Or, we've reached that apex of civilization where the hero no longer shoots the bad guys, tips his hat to the lady, climbs on his horse and

Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Has McCain resigned his senate seat yet? --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:49 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > In retrospect, I've come to believe one of the high points in history was > during the war of 1812, when the British almost burned Washington DC to the > ground... >

Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-14 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
In retrospect, I've come to believe one of the high points in history was during the war of 1812, when the British almost burned Washington DC to the ground... Since then, the opportunity for British success has been sorely missed. The late John McCain often referred to it as the "District of

Re: [MBZ] South Carolina Mandatory Evacuation Order

2018-09-14 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
too bad it didn't go to DC and hang out there. Plenty if feedstock there. fmiser via Mercedes wrote: G wrote: Hurricanes always follow the path of heat energy, If you want to find the storm track, look for air temperature at altitudes and look for hot air... Hot air!!?! Is congress

[MBZ] Cetane booster

2018-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Found on another forum: https://www.cruzetalk.com/forum/418-gen2-diesel-general-discussion/237001-what-diesel-fuel-best-3.html#post3197429 Nearly all diesel additives have the same basic ingredients. 2-EHN and aromatic hydrocarbons like trimethylbenzenes. If it is a winter formula, it will have

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wish it were intermittent now, it's been dead for a week, so not much hope. It's easy to remove the door panel on a 123. I will do this tomorrow morning and report back what I see. On Sep 14, 2018 7:32 PM, "fmiser via Mercedes" wrote: > > > > Buggered wrote: > > > > > > > > ... push up the

[MBZ] Max is powerless

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
In MtP There's a power outage for more than 700 customers in Mt. Pleasant right now after power lines fell onto Hwy. 17 near Long Point Road. --R Sent from iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Well our power was out from 8:50 p.m. until just a minute ago. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC '87 300TD '95 E300 On September 14, 2018 3:49:42 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >Had the SEC parked by the garage to do brake work. Figured I better >move it before the winds pick up.

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I can check here but shipping a back glass could be a challenge. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Sep 14, 2018 4:12 PM, "Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes" < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It’s a 91 126 SEC. I’m sure all are the same body-wise > > --FT > Sent from iPhone > > > On Sep 14, 2018, at

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Buggered wrote: > > > > > > ... push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is > > > broken.Jam a wedge in the glass at the bottom of the frame > > > to keep it raised until you can fix it. > > Randy wrote: > > > > How about Andrew's statement that there is no sound of the > > motor

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Well good chance to check power and motor too --R Yes, and don't just check with a meter. Use one of the testers with a light bulb in it. Sometimes one will get enough voltage to make the meter show it but not enough to power

[MBZ] Don't trust the hurricane forecase cone

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
FYI. From another list: In response to http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/weather/hurricane/fl-ne-hurricane-forecast-cone-accuracy-20180912-story.html Trust the hurricane cone. It's usually right. David Schutz and David Fleshler South Florida Sun Sentinel No its not usually right and only

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Hmmm you might be correct. It’s been awhile since I’ve done one. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:07 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:36:29 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It’s a 91 126 SEC. I’m sure all are the same body-wise --FT Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:08 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote: > > On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:49:42 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > >> Had the SEC parked by the garage to do brake work. Figured I better >>

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:49:42 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Had the SEC parked by the garage to do brake work. Figured I better > move it before the winds pick up. Too late. Tree branch on the rear > glass. Ouch. Probably unobtainium at this point and in any case I don’t > have

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 15:36:29 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT > UP after removing the various bits so you don’t break the little tabs) > and push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is broken. Isn't

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm betting/hoping that the motor is OK but there is a break in the wiring between the rear door and front console. If the motor is bad then that is at least relatively simple to replace. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:57 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Well good

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Better start calling the junk yards. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:58 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Ouch in deed! > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Had

Re: [MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Ouch in deed! - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:50 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Had the SEC parked by the garage to do brake work. Figured I better move > it before the winds pick up. Too late. Tree branch on the rear glass. Ouch. >

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Well good chance to check power and motor too --R Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 3:42 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 14/09/2018 2:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: >> Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT UP >> after

Re: [MBZ] Carolina

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
A Good Report! New Bern looks to be in about the worst of it. Still no rain here in Mt Pleasant, just nice and windy. I'm probably going to move our cars into the street so they're not under or near any trees, in a little bit here. Predicted gusts could get as high as 50 mph. - Max

[MBZ] Florence first casualty

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Had the SEC parked by the garage to do brake work. Figured I better move it before the winds pick up. Too late. Tree branch on the rear glass. Ouch. Probably unobtainium at this point and in any case I don’t have comp ins coverage only liability on these older vehicles so no glass replacement.

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT UP after removing the various bits so you don’t break the little tabs) and push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is broken. Jam a wedge in the glass

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sliding jaw of death. Pull off the door panel (lift the panel STRAIGHT UP after removing the various bits so you don’t break the little tabs) and push up the glass by hand, you’ll see if the slide is broken. Jam a wedge in the glass at the bottom of the frame to keep it raised until you can fix

[MBZ] Carolina

2018-09-14 Thread Frederick Moir via Mercedes
Report from No. 1 son, New Bern N.C. 1 p.m. today. High and dry Water receding No damage that I know of / no flooding Whole house generator dividing power and AC since 6:30 pm last night Everyone ok -- Fred Moir Lynn MA Diesel preferred ___

Re: [MBZ] Florence's future path a big problem for forecasters

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Checked our sondes this morning at low tide, we have 2.5 days worth of data so far and looking for another 12days. Downloaded data off 2 and got spreadsheets going, good stuff. If we get several inches of rain next coupla days we will have some awesome results. My buddy says we need to write a

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No sound whatsoever as the switch engages in the UP position. This is purely an electrical issue. On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 3:20 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On 14/09/2018 2:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: > > My vote goes to the plastic part in the

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 14/09/2018 2:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote: My vote goes to the plastic part in the regulator that degrades with age. It is a squarish shaped piece of white nylon (?) that slides in a channel. IME that part is the weak point in the regulator on W123 power windows. It seems to me

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Known as the “sliding jaw”. -D > On Sep 14, 2018, at 3:12 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes > wrote: > > My vote goes to the plastic part in the regulator that degrades with age. It > is a squarish shaped piece of white nylon (?) that slides in a channel. IME > that part is the weak point in

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
My vote goes to the plastic part in the regulator that degrades with age. It is a squarish shaped piece of white nylon (?) that slides in a channel. IME that part is the weak point in the regulator on W123 power windows. It seems to me a mechanical rather than electrical issue is more likely to

[MBZ] Florence's future path a big problem for forecasters

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
HURRICANE FLORENCEFor meteorologists, this is a 'horrific nightmare storm'Published: Friday, September 14, 2018 Oddly, the closer Hurricane Florence gets to land, the murkier its future gets. Usually when a storm approaches the coast, forecasters can tell with ever-increasing accuracy who will

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I doubt the switches are the problem - I swapped three of them and cleaned the terminals in each case. In any event, each master switch operates the front left window but not the left rear. The windows on the R side of the car operate normally with the passenger side console switch. On Fri, Sep

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Dirty switches? Did you cycle both switches? Kevin in Hillsboro, OR Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I forgot to mention - that was an early attempt that failed. The grommet is > intact. > > I think for starters I will switch

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 13:22:13 -0400 WILTON via Mercedes wrote: > 1300 14 Sep; doing fairly well here; winds during night and today > 'bout 30 mph w/gusts to 45-50. Lucky to stay fairly well between rain > bands most of night and much of today. Basement still dry. Running > sump pump in

Re: [MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 12:03:01 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > Well since writing that the breeze is freshening and getting cloudy. > Time to move the fleet around, I can hear branches cracking now. > > --R > Sent from iPhone > > > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Buggered Benzmail >

Re: [MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 11:13:37 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > Cloudy and a bit more windy today here in Mt Pleasant. Windy has our > Charleston International Airport reporting winds of 24 mph with gusts > up to 33 mph. No rain yet. Thanks, Max. Craig

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I forgot to mention - that was an early attempt that failed. The grommet is intact. I think for starters I will switch the wires attached to the PW motor and hopefully that will raise the window again. if not, then I may have a bad motor... Could it be a regulator issue?? On Fri, Sep 14, 2018

Re: [MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Try holding the switch in the "up" position while opening and closing the door. That will flex the wires in the accordion joint, which may be broken. You can also open the door and squeeze the accordion joint while holding the switch in the up position. - Max Charleston SC On Fri,

[MBZ] Stubborn w123 electrical glitch

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yet another another pepper jelly challenge. First to solve it gets a free jar of my pepper jelly shipped free to your location in the coterminous 48 states. I can't get the rear driver side power window to lift on my 1983 300td. It is stuck in the half open position. I swapped out several master

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
1300 14 Sep; doing fairly well here; winds during night and today 'bout 30 mph w/gusts to 45-50. Lucky to stay fairly well between rain bands most of night and much of today. Basement still dry. Running sump pump in outside basement well occasionally. Still have power. Center is ashore

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
Two high pressure systems to the north. W - Original Message - From: "Larry Turner via Mercedes" To: Cc: "Larry Turner" Sent: Friday, September 14, 2018 9:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Flo I keep wondering how the forecasters predicted Florence to gain and hold strength until it

Re: [MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Well since writing that the breeze is freshening and getting cloudy. Time to move the fleet around, I can hear branches cracking now. --R Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:17 AM, Buggered Benzmail > wrote: > > Sunny and gorgeous on Johns Island  a bit breezy but quite pleasant >

Re: [MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sunny and gorgeous on Johns Island  a bit breezy but quite pleasant --R Sent from iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 11:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cloudy and a bit more windy today here in Mt Pleasant. Windy has our > Charleston International Airport reporting winds of 24 mph

Re: [MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Cloudy and a bit more windy today here in Mt Pleasant. Windy has our Charleston International Airport reporting winds of 24 mph with gusts up to 33 mph. No rain yet. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:29 AM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > Any updates on you guys

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
I looked into getting the roll down hurricane shutters for the 8 Windows on my second story turret. Too expensive. Probably should change windows to those storm resistant ones like some of my neighbors have but I face the cove not the bay. Real issue here would be water so I pay my flood

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
>> H they are not showing available at my local store. >Nor here. >Maybe Lowe's doesn't think we need hurricane guards in Michigan and Oklahoma? I doubt they have snow fence in Tampa, either. Rick ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I’m betting it will be torn up before you get it home. -D > On Sep 14, 2018, at 10:40 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Nope not for sale. The wife said she wants to drive it, so it will be tore up > by the end of the year. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Sep 14, 2018, at

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb sez: >Nope not for sale. The wife said she wants to drive it, so it will be tore up >by the end of the year. Yup. And it will be your fault. You ought to just buy a used Lexus for her and call it good. (ducking from stuff thrown by Dimitri and Curley). And the other one? For sale? The

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
Definitely. And if you have windows that are recessed into your walls you can use the clips to place the panels inside the recesses. That means you have smaller panels than if you attached them to the outside of the house. -D > On Sep 14, 2018, at 10:14 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On September 14, 2018 at 10:27 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > H they are not showing available at my local store. Nor here. Maybe Lowe's doesn't think we need hurricane guards in Michigan and Oklahoma? Mitch. ___

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Nope not for sale. The wife said she wants to drive it, so it will be tore up by the end of the year. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > So that one's gas, not diesel? > For sale? > > Rick > > > The 05 e320 I just picked up yesterday

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
So that one's gas, not diesel? For sale? Rick The 05 e320 I just picked up yesterday and getting ready to start driving home had the fuel tank replaced 3 times by the PO. It seems it’s going to be ready for a 4th soon. It will be going in for the SBC when it gets back.

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
The 05 e320 I just picked up yesterday and getting ready to start driving home had the fuel tank replaced 3 times by the PO. It seems it’s going to be ready for a 4th soon. It will be going in for the SBC when it gets back. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 7:01 AM, Larry Turner via

[MBZ] Carolina Action Reports?

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Any updates on you guys experiences with the hurricane? Wilton? Max? Rich? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Fri, 14 Sep 2018 09:51:24 -0400 Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote: > I keep wondering how the forecasters predicted Florence to gain and > hold strength until it hit land.  What little I know saw the same with > high water temps and nothing in the way of steering winds to block it. > It started

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
H they are not showing available at my local store. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2018, at 4:55 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is what I have for our windows and doors. Not cheap, but lets light in > and very light so it’s easy to handle and store: > >

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
So they'll fix your fuel system but not your engine? I wonder if the best way around that is to buy a wrecked CDI and do an engine swap after the engine quits. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That's good news. - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 10:02 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Hi Mitch, > > Just got a call from our local dealer - he said the fuel tank and all > components would be replaced under warranty (Yippee!) and the >

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Thanks Dan, I like those. Much nicer than plywood! - Max Charleston SC On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 7:56 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > This is what I have for our windows and doors. Not cheap, but lets light > in and very light so it’s easy to handle and store: > > >

Re: [MBZ] My 06 E350 problems - FYI Warranty Extensions

2018-09-14 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
Hi Mitch, Just got a call from our local dealer - he said the fuel tank and all components would be replaced under warranty (Yippee!) and the Counterbalance shaft was the cause of the CEL as expected.  I told him I'd drive it as long as I could and he enthusiastically agreed that was the

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Look at the hurricane tidbits videos from the past 2 nights for insights into factors that steer and weaken these storms. On Sep 14, 2018 9:52 AM, "Larry Turner via Mercedes" wrote: > I keep wondering how the forecasters predicted Florence to gain and hold > strength until it hit land. What

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Larry Turner via Mercedes
I keep wondering how the forecasters predicted Florence to gain and hold strength until it hit land.  What little I know saw the same with high water temps and nothing in the way of steering winds to block it.  It started at Force 4 and hit at Force 2.  Do we not understand hurricanes?  Are

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
A hair more than 1/2”. I actually install it like plywood into the window opening using clips rather than over the outside of the window. It’s far, far easier, makes for smaller panels, and doesn’t require drilling holes in the exterior walls of the house.

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On September 14, 2018 at 7:55 AM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > This is what I have for our windows and doors. Not cheap, but lets light in > and very light so it’s easy to handle and store: How thick is it? 18lb/32 sq ft seems pretty thin. $118 seems fairly cheap. IIRC, a 4x8x1/4"

Re: [MBZ] OT Flo

2018-09-14 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
This is what I have for our windows and doors. Not cheap, but lets light in and very light so it’s easy to handle and store: https://www.lowes.com/pd/Storm-Busters-48-in-x-96-in-Clear-Polycarbonate-Hurricane-Shutters/3041437 With a 10% off coupon code it cost a little under $1,000 for enough of

Re: [MBZ] MBUGLY

2018-09-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
You forgot the part where Time names the horse "Man of the Year" Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android On Thu, Sep 13, 2018 at 6:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote: Mercedes just did to Mercedes what Nike did to Nike, with exposing that design to public view... Every time I look at it... I throw