Re: [MBZ] Bi-turbo V12

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

>
> Two bits sez the speedo, tach et cetera don't work worth shit.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Euroiffic

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Does anybody recall seeing John Lennons TD on BAT?

I am reading the December issue of Sports Car Market.  It sold for $31.900 at 
Worldwide Auctioneers in Auburn IN 9/1/18.  13x k miles on a taxi yellow rig


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> On Feb 22, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> 1980 Mercedes Benz 280TE Wagon / manual transmission
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Curley, Peter.
The Neutral Safety Switch has a setting hole for a drill blank to line-up
the switch and selector position.
When you look at it, it will be obvious how it goes. Cannot remember
off-hand if it is Park or N position for alignment.
Replacing the bushings moves the lever in relation to the switch.
YMMV.
Fred

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 11:17 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Ok, thanks!  I guess I need one.  I can't see how putting a bushing in
> the shift lever could have screwed up the backup light switch.   Maybe
> it did.
>
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 2/24/19 10:03 PM:
> > Neutral lockout switch contains the contacts for the back-up lights,
> just one swtich, one connection.  It's on the side of the transmission,
> prevents starting in gear AND turns on the back-up lights in reverse.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Ok, thanks!  I guess I need one.  I can't see how putting a bushing in 
the shift lever could have screwed up the backup light switch.   Maybe 
it did.


Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 2/24/19 10:03 PM:

Neutral lockout switch contains the contacts for the back-up lights, just one 
swtich, one connection.  It's on the side of the transmission, prevents 
starting in gear AND turns on the back-up lights in reverse.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Neutral lockout switch contains the contacts for the back-up lights, just one 
swtich, one connection.  It's on the side of the transmission, prevents 
starting in gear AND turns on the back-up lights in reverse.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Who is in CA...Paperwork

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I had issue with a Kali car almost 30 years ago.  Somehow that state wanted 
money for me to purchase the car from an Oregon seller who had not titled the 
car properly.  That was a giant PITA because on the way home with the car, I 
caught the attention of the local WA Mounties who gave me a ticket for driving 
a car with out of state plates.  I  had purchased the thing not an hour before, 
and now the clock was ticking to avoid a bigger fine should I be found driving 
the car.  The idiots from golden state dmv drug their feet for near three weeks 
getting it cleared up.

Never going to purchase a kolifornia car again.


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> 
> No, you have to make California happy or you won’t get a pink slip. No pink 
> slip, no title. I had to deal with this on my former 62 300SE. Granted, it 
> was a very different situation, but CA was enough of a PITA that I had to 
> wash the title through Alabama to get a clear title to the car.
> 
> Since this is a running example, the paperwork should be in order.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 22, 2019, at 2:25 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Good luck!  Check your local DMV website, they are who you need to make 
>> happy, not CA.
>> -- 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> On February 21, 2019 10:51:59 PM EST, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>> So I’m going to go by that 300 D tomorrow. What paperwork needs to be
>>> done? I can’t remember what I had to do when I bought a car in San
>>> Diego once. Does the title need to be notarized? Is there any other
>>> weird California paperwork that needs to be filled out? I can find
>>> plenty of information when I would have to do if I lived in California
>>> and I was buying a car, but not so much about an out-of-state dude like
>>> me buying a car in California.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

same as which switch?

neutral lockout?


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 2/24/19 9:14 PM:

It’s the same switch.





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[MBZ] Bill Gates Slams Unreliable Wind and Solar Energy

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Carbon and renewables seem not to make sense to the almost richest man in the 
world.  That may point to just how much magical thinking is going on in the 
marketing of these products to the public

clay monroe

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Re: [MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s the same switch. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 24, 2019, at 9:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was under the impression that a switch on the back of the auto transmission 
> turned on the backup lights when the trans was shifted to R.   What I am 
> reading says that the neutral lockout switch also is the reverse switch.  
> Anyone know for sure where the switch is for the backup lights?
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[MBZ] W124 backup light switch

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I was under the impression that a switch on the back of the auto 
transmission turned on the backup lights when the trans was shifted to 
R.   What I am reading says that the neutral lockout switch also is the 
reverse switch.  Anyone know for sure where the switch is for the backup 
lights?


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Re: [MBZ] 129 SL Code reader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

We read the codes on the 124 gassers by the flashes and/voltmeter.  I 
don't remember how many pins the connector had, but #1 daughter figured 
them out, so I would read the flashes or voltage per pin and she would 
read the "code" meaning to me.  We made a good team.


Thanks for posting this info.  If I ever get a newer car, I'll have to 
learn this eventually.




Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/24/19 5:21 PM:

This afternoon I made a code reader for the SL

http://www.mercedes.gen.in/mercedes-older-series-diagnostic-fault-code-reading-w124-r129-others/ 
(BTW this page is a PITA, you can't copy anything from it, I had to 
"print" it as a pdf then I could print out certain pages of the pdf 
that I wanted)


This pdf linked in the page

http://www.mercedes.gen.in/Downloads/cs1000_mb.pdf

has all the codes, some are specific to particular cars/engines, I 
went through and extracted all the tables for the SL600/V12 so when I 
start reading stuff (and particular pins) I will be able to figure out 
what it means.  There are still some parts of the system that this 
simple method will not read, for that I would need a code reader 
device that can talk to the system.  I could probably make on to plug 
into each of the particular sockets that show data, then have a switch 
for each, with my single pin reader you have to each one separately.  
No big deal.  Got dark so I have not tested it on the car yet, but it 
worked with a 9V battery.


I am afraid of what I might find!

I found the bits to solder it up in my electronics box -- a momentary 
switch, an LED, wires, and a resister of about the right size.  I have 
tons of this "junk" I have scavenged from old printers and scanners 
and whatever, they are a treasure trove of electronic and small 
mechanical bits of various kinds.  I have used a heat gun or little 
torch to melt useful components off circuit boards -- switches, LEDs, 
capacitors, transistors, other things of utility -- and have them more 
or less organized in those square plastic jars rice comes in.


I shall report on my efforts, it's kinda interesting.




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Re: [MBZ] 129 SL Code reader

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 2/24/19 5:21 PM:

organized in those square plastic jars rice comes in.

Sheesh!   "plastic jars rice comes in"???
We usta buy Riceland rice in 100 lb bags.  Now the biggest I can find is 
25 lb.


But the best buy now is when the LA rice harvest comes in, you can by 5 
lb bags for around $1.50 each.  (in LA and adjoining states, at least)


I got Zebra brand basmati rice in nice 10 lb zipper bags with handles at 
the Paki store in Rochester, MN..  They are great for Jumper cables. One 
set fits nicely in a rice bag, which in turn fits inside the spare 
wheel  of your MB.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQbj9uvYL8I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMhYl74vw2c

--FT

On 2/24/19 6:13 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
"arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:


Pilot asleep at controls of 747.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/


Gerry wrote:
I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play
games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.

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[MBZ] 129 SL Code reader

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This afternoon I made a code reader for the SL

http://www.mercedes.gen.in/mercedes-older-series-diagnostic-fault-code-reading-w124-r129-others/ 
(BTW this page is a PITA, you can't copy anything from it, I had to 
"print" it as a pdf then I could print out certain pages of the pdf that 
I wanted)


This pdf linked in the page

http://www.mercedes.gen.in/Downloads/cs1000_mb.pdf

has all the codes, some are specific to particular cars/engines, I went 
through and extracted all the tables for the SL600/V12 so when I start 
reading stuff (and particular pins) I will be able to figure out what it 
means.  There are still some parts of the system that this simple method 
will not read, for that I would need a code reader device that can talk 
to the system.  I could probably make on to plug into each of the 
particular sockets that show data, then have a switch for each, with my 
single pin reader you have to each one separately.  No big deal.  Got 
dark so I have not tested it on the car yet, but it worked with a 9V 
battery.


I am afraid of what I might find!

I found the bits to solder it up in my electronics box -- a momentary 
switch, an LED, wires, and a resister of about the right size.  I have 
tons of this "junk" I have scavenged from old printers and scanners and 
whatever, they are a treasure trove of electronic and small mechanical 
bits of various kinds.  I have used a heat gun or little torch to melt 
useful components off circuit boards -- switches, LEDs, capacitors, 
transistors, other things of utility -- and have them more or less 
organized in those square plastic jars rice comes in.


I shall report on my efforts, it's kinda interesting.

--
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yeah, excitement is NEVER something to hope for.

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 5:08 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
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> On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
> "arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:
>
> > Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> >
> > https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> >
> Gerry wrote:
> I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the
> autopilots flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play
> games? Seems like a boring job most of the time.
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[MBZ] OT: Pilot asleep at controls of 747

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On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 15:28:45 -0500
"arche...@embarqmail.com"  wrote:

> Pilot asleep at controls of 747.
> 
> https://www.instagram.com/p/BuHB1AyHpUM/
> 
Gerry wrote:
I don't see how airline pilots stay awake on long flights with the autopilots 
flying the plane. Do they take turns napping? Read books? Play games? Seems 
like a boring job most of the time.

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Re: [MBZ] Bi-turbo V12

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ha!
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On February 24, 2019 10:43:53 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This is the antidote for those SBC's installed in W123's:
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/check-out-this-buick-regal-powered-by-a-biturbo-mercedes-v12/ar-BBTYTJV#image=BBTYW1t|1
>
>
>-- 
>OK Don
>
>*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>of
>our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
>"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>for themselves."
>
>WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>2013 F150, 18 mpg
>2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Bi-turbo V12

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Ha!
-- 
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Charleston SC

On February 24, 2019 10:43:53 AM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:
>This is the antidote for those SBC's installed in W123's:
>https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/check-out-this-buick-regal-powered-by-a-biturbo-mercedes-v12/ar-BBTYTJV#image=BBTYW1t|1
>
>
>-- 
>OK Don
>
>*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many
>of
>our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>
>"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
>who
>learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
>fence
>for themselves."
>
>WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>2013 F150, 18 mpg
>2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] Finnie Fun!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do you take a wire brush to it (hand, drill, or angle grinder) and go at 
the rust to get it down to cleaner metal?  Or just let the chemicals do 
work?


--FT

On 2/24/19 12:20 AM, Dimitri via Mercedes wrote:

While not strictly necessary, I find that a POR-15 repair lasts longer if the 
rust is completely removed with multiple applications of naval jelly. Over a 
period of 1-2 days, the rust can be completely dissolved giving you a nice rust 
free, pickled surface which is optimal for POR-15 adhesion.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 23, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
wrote:

Yup, no rest for the wicked. Got the trunk cleaned out in preparation for some 
POR-15 and some more trim work done.

http://penoff.com/1965_220SEb_Blog/Entries/2019/2/23_No_Junk_in_this_Trunk_Part_2.html

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Re: [MBZ] M112/W210 Water Pump

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Thanks, guys.

I’ll be getting an MB rebuilt pump from the stealership tomorrow, since they’re 
only about $150. Anything else to watch out for?

My crank pulley seal leaks, too, so this might be a good time to do it. Anyone 
know if I need a puller to get the crank pulley off?

-D


> On Feb 24, 2019, at 12:44 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It’s super easy on a non fan clutch one. Should be easy after pulling the fan 
> and clutch 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Feb 24, 2019, at 11:31 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone done one of these? Are they a PITA or not bad?
>> 
>> And this would be on my 1998 wagon, so there’s a fan and fan clutch involved.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] M112/W210 Water Pump

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s super easy on a non fan clutch one. Should be easy after pulling the fan 
and clutch 

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> 
> And this would be on my 1998 wagon, so there’s a fan and fan clutch involved.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] M112/W210 Water Pump

[Rich Thomas via Mercedes]

I did the water pump on the $500E300, I took out the radiator to have 
some room to work.  had to take the fan off too.  It wasn't a terribly 
bad job, just annoying to have to take out other stuff to get to the WP, 
which it turned out was OK, it was that stupid alternator clutch 
pulley.  Replaced the hoses while I had the radiator out, figured it was 
reasonable to do that too.  Was good, because the top one had a long 
tear in it I couldn't see about ready to let go.


--FT

On 2/24/19 12:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Anyone done one of these? Are they a PITA or not bad?

And this would be on my 1998 wagon, so there’s a fan and fan clutch involved.

Thanks,

-D
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[MBZ] M112/W210 Water Pump

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Anyone done one of these? Are they a PITA or not bad?

And this would be on my 1998 wagon, so there’s a fan and fan clutch involved.

Thanks,

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Bi-turbo V12

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

fun times!  Wonder how he got the tranny to work without all the MB 
nannies keeping track of everything.  The engine management was probably 
an interesting challenge too.


--FT

On 2/24/19 10:43 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

This is the antidote for those SBC's installed in W123's:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/check-out-this-buick-regal-powered-by-a-biturbo-mercedes-v12/ar-BBTYTJV#image=BBTYW1t|1



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--FT


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[MBZ] Bi-turbo V12

[OK Don via Mercedes]

This is the antidote for those SBC's installed in W123's:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/enthusiasts/check-out-this-buick-regal-powered-by-a-biturbo-mercedes-v12/ar-BBTYTJV#image=BBTYW1t|1


-- 
OK Don

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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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