Re: [MBZ] My indy closed

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I missed the last time he cleared the shelves.  He had parts stacked and 
shelved a dozen feet high in a storage section of the shop.  Two stories, 24x30 
of parts for Pontons to W140.  Pretty much just hauled it to the dump.  
Complete interiors in a host of colors, along with electronics, controls, most 
anything he might have needed that had been scoured off cars over a 30 year 
period.  He wanted to focus more on newer cars, as well as having  a more 
secure place to park his collection of muscle cars.

Example of cost and labor saving in the collection.  The E300D driver seat 
cacked the motor.  Instead of ordering the replacement, he had the exact seat 
in the exact color, so it was swapped in for a few hundred bucks, labor 
included.

Yes, you do wish you were there.


clay monroe

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:49 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Wish I was there!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

I’ll try again when I get home. I find the odd little sun visor thingy gets in 
the way. 
I’ll try the bulldog clip thingy. 

Bob R

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 2:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess I have forgotten about that. But yes I usually get them in with one 
> whack. Sometimes I forget the trick and it takes me a while to refresh my 
> memory. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I fought the re-installation of a 124 rear view mirror for most of a day,
>> just could not get it in with hands, 2x4 piece, hammer, mallet, and most
>> combinations of the above. Kaleb stopped by and popped it in with one try,
>> bare hands - he has the magic touch ...
>> 
>> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:23 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh!  Learn something every day.  I don't think I have done a 124...
>>> Maybe i did... if so, it was the armstrong method I guess.
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:22 PM:
 Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the
>>> pins.
 
 Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One
>>> could drill a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a
>>> little fiddly but only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a
>>> pliers.
 
 The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL
>>> YOU DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.
>>> Put mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the
>>> handle butt against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the
>>> head of the mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into
>>> place.
>>> 
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>> 
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>> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
>> 
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>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
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>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap '83 240D in Central FL

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Poos should get over there and get it.  He could martha it up a little 
bit and sell it for $2k


On 3/31/2019 2:21 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/398272-1983-240d-auto-sale-central-fl-best-offer-over-%24250-4-15-19-takes.html

$251.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I guess I have forgotten about that. But yes I usually get them in with one 
whack. Sometimes I forget the trick and it takes me a while to refresh my 
memory. 

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I fought the re-installation of a 124 rear view mirror for most of a day,
> just could not get it in with hands, 2x4 piece, hammer, mallet, and most
> combinations of the above. Kaleb stopped by and popped it in with one try,
> bare hands - he has the magic touch ...
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:23 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh!  Learn something every day.  I don't think I have done a 124...
>> Maybe i did... if so, it was the armstrong method I guess.
>> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:22 PM:
>>> Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the
>> pins.
>>> 
>>> Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One
>> could drill a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a
>> little fiddly but only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a
>> pliers.
>>> 
>>> The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL
>> YOU DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.
>> Put mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the
>> handle butt against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the
>> head of the mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into
>> place.
>> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
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> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] My indy closed

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Wish I was there!

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:31 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> This being a Sunday I got a very strange call this morning.  The phone has 
> bespoke ringtones for callers, and this was from my indy who is not open on 
> the weekends.  At 0800 Alaska time.  I let it ring through, maybe he leaves a 
> message.
> 
> A few hours later when I had gotten some coffee, he rung again.  He wanted to 
> know if I was still going to assist in the sale of a front end damage w129.  
> I had been roped into trying to move it last year, but it was too far gone to 
> put on CL or anywhere else.
> 
> Then he tells me he closed up his shop two weeks ago.  His tech had packed up 
> and gone to Vegas to work on Benz there.  That yesterday another shop had 
> rolled up with a huge trailer and hauled off all manner of motors, parts and 
> w126 carcass.  He wanted to gift me a bunch of W126 parts, as he did not see 
> being able to sell them on.
> 
> Very sad day.
> 
> I told him I am trapped in Alaska
> 
> 
> 
> clay 
> 
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> 1082 SD - Allen
> 1986 SDL - Polei
> 
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> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
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Re: [MBZ] Tar Pressure WUZ:The FB idiocy is appalling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

On the w210 the normal pressure is 27/29 and max load is 28/34 iirc. 

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 1:17 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It is certainly true for most cars up to 1990 or so.  Particularly those that 
> came out with 78 profile tars from the factory.  36psi cold is about right 
> for most. I've never had car tars wear out in the center from overinflation.  
> At factory inflation on 110/115 etc, the tar wear underinflated quickly. 
> Factory was 28/30 or 28/32 on most of those.
> 
> Ya gotta remember too, what a deetriot barge rode and drove like in the 68-80 
> era.  Think full size frod or shovey wagon...   Do you remember wallow?   The 
> factoies deliberately underinflated tars for that wandering wallowing ride.
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 11:11 AM:
>> There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you should run 
>> your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason being is tires 
>> now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run the factory 
>> pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges faster. I call BS 
>> but now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not.
>> 
>> 
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[MBZ] scrapyard diesels

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Warning, "Enhanced" means "we polished the turd so you don't notice what was 
wrong with it".
https://www.copart.com/lot/30527849

Non-turbo W210:
https://www.copart.com/lot/28835239

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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> So maybe I should be running mine higher.  Would it affect the
> ride quality?

I have a chart that is great if the only consideration is tire
load.

I think this is the same one I have.  Helpful to figure out what
pressure to run with a non-stock tire.



Very useful for light truck, trailer, and truck tires.  I haven't
looked up the numbers for any of my cars.

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Re: [MBZ] BAT video? - really?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

He is White man Splaining to her.

clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Mar 31, 2019, at 11:34 AM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> and, another video of ... PCB fab factory in China.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljOoGyCso8s&t=4s



clay monroe

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> looking for didn't fall out.




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[MBZ] BAT video? - really?

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Nice video - RUF not MB - how come nobody has posted BAT video, this is a first.
https://bringatrailer.com/2019/03/30/bat-video-inspiration-faszination-am-nurburgring/

and, another video of ... PCB fab factory in China.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljOoGyCso8s&t=4s

tin

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I think the issue was between rubber band tars and normal tars on the car.  The 
low profiles wanted more psi, so the door placard (or where ever it lived) was 
disregarded for the specification given on the rubber itself.

clay monroe

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[MBZ] Cheap '83 240D in Central FL

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/398272-1983-240d-auto-sale-central-fl-best-offer-over-%24250-4-15-19-takes.html

$251.
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Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Last one I purchased two years ago was all of $60.  I had over torqued the 
little bolts and warped the pan.  No amount of fiddling was able to get the pan 
to seal right after that.


clay monroe

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 6:45 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Craig, if you have over-tightened the pan bolts, you may have warped the pan. 
>  I think a new pan is not too expensive?
> 
> Be prepared for more leaking if the pan is warped.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

No holes in the pins. There’s a flat washer on each end of the spring. Compress 
the pins with a channellock pliers and stick a straightened out piece of wire 
from a bulldog clip in between the washer and the casting. Do it on both sides 
and bend a hook or “L” in the wire so you can pull it out.

Works like a charm every time.

-D

> On Mar 31, 2019, at 2:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I fought the re-installation of a 124 rear view mirror for most of a day,
> just could not get it in with hands, 2x4 piece, hammer, mallet, and most
> combinations of the above. Kaleb stopped by and popped it in with one try,
> bare hands - he has the magic touch ...
> 
> On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:23 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Oh!  Learn something every day.  I don't think I have done a 124...
>> Maybe i did... if so, it was the armstrong method I guess.
>> 
>> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:22 PM:
>>> Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the
>> pins.
>>> 
>>> Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One
>> could drill a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a
>> little fiddly but only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a
>> pliers.
>>> 
>>> The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL
>> YOU DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.
>> Put mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the
>> handle butt against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the
>> head of the mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into
>> place.
>> 
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> 
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> our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain
> 
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
> 
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Dummy me was running the larger low profile tires from an SLK230 at the 
pressures for the stock R129 tires. It was a total doofus thing and a very 
expensive lesson, not to mention I’m sure it directly affected the handling. 
Looking back I’m not sure how I managed such a rectal-cranial inversion, other 
than I’ve never swapped out non-stock tires and wheels on a car like this 
before.

When I put the new set of tires on the car I checked the pressures for the 
SLK230 and found they were like 35 psi in the fronts and 39 psi in the backs. 
Tires are wearing well now and handling is greatly improved according to the 
driver.

-D

> On Mar 31, 2019, at 3:01 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Car manufacturers tend to aim to the low side to minimize NVH. 
> They care more how comfy you are on the test drive than how long your tires 
> last. 
> Just pump it up 3-5psi per week until you decide you liked it better last 
> week. 
> 
> Some cars, like W140, you need a lot of air just to handle the weight. 
> 
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Car manufacturers tend to aim to the low side to minimize NVH. 
They care more how comfy you are on the test drive than how long your tires 
last. 
Just pump it up 3-5psi per week until you decide you liked it better last week. 

Some cars, like W140, you need a lot of air just to handle the weight. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I fought the re-installation of a 124 rear view mirror for most of a day,
just could not get it in with hands, 2x4 piece, hammer, mallet, and most
combinations of the above. Kaleb stopped by and popped it in with one try,
bare hands - he has the magic touch ...

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 1:23 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Oh!  Learn something every day.  I don't think I have done a 124...
> Maybe i did... if so, it was the armstrong method I guess.
>
> Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:22 PM:
> > Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the
> pins.
> >
> > Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One
> could drill a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a
> little fiddly but only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a
> pliers.
> >
> > The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL
> YOU DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.
> Put mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the
> handle butt against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the
> head of the mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into
> place.
>
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[MBZ] My indy closed

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

This being a Sunday I got a very strange call this morning.  The phone has 
bespoke ringtones for callers, and this was from my indy who is not open on the 
weekends.  At 0800 Alaska time.  I let it ring through, maybe he leaves a 
message.

A few hours later when I had gotten some coffee, he rung again.  He wanted to 
know if I was still going to assist in the sale of a front end damage w129.  I 
had been roped into trying to move it last year, but it was too far gone to put 
on CL or anywhere else.

Then he tells me he closed up his shop two weeks ago.  His tech had packed up 
and gone to Vegas to work on Benz there.  That yesterday another shop had 
rolled up with a huge trailer and hauled off all manner of motors, parts and 
w126 carcass.  He wanted to gift me a bunch of W126 parts, as he did not see 
being able to sell them on.

Very sad day.

I told him I am trapped in Alaska



clay 


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Oh!  Learn something every day.  I don't think I have done a 124...   
Maybe i did... if so, it was the armstrong method I guess.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:22 PM:

Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the pins.

Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One could drill 
a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a little fiddly but 
only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a pliers.

The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL YOU 
DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.  Put 
mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the handle butt 
against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the head of the 
mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into place.



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Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

i've straightened several MB trans pans.

Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 11:19 AM:

Used to see that on Borg-Warner transaxles in Saabs all the time.
Guy I worked for had a bunch of Napoleon hat shaped thick washers made up to 
spread out the clamping forces so he could torque them down without denting 
them.
I preferred to just tap them flat with a 8oz ball pein (ball end) and torque 
them to (barely snug) spec. It's not that hard to knock the overtorque dents 
out of a thin pan rim with the ball pein.
Just carefully taptaptap until it looks good.
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[MBZ] Tar Pressure WUZ:The FB idiocy is appalling

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

It is certainly true for most cars up to 1990 or so.  Particularly those 
that came out with 78 profile tars from the factory.  36psi cold is 
about right for most. I've never had car tars wear out in the center 
from overinflation.  At factory inflation on 110/115 etc, the tar wear 
underinflated quickly. Factory was 28/30 or 28/32 on most of those.


Ya gotta remember too, what a deetriot barge rode and drove like in the 
68-80 era.  Think full size frod or shovey wagon...   Do you remember 
wallow?   The factoies deliberately underinflated tars for that 
wandering wallowing ride.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 11:11 AM:

There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you should run 
your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason being is tires 
now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run the factory 
pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges faster. I call BS but 
now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not.





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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Or do it the right way with a wire through the pin hole. I've done 
it both ways, and the right way is much easier.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 10:57 AM:

  Grit your teeth and prepare to break it. I haven't broken one yet but it sure 
feels like it.
I've never done a 124 but a couple 201s which are probably the same...
-Curt





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Re: [MBZ] Clay!!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Dan sez:  "I’m quite familiar with the heater valves on the 
W110/111/112" If so, then you know there are 4 ways the operator can be 
put on the barrel.


the valve cylinders have a square end for the operating tab.  Note the 
positions of the operator.  Down for off, out for heat.  When you pull 
the barrels for lube and new orings, note the position of the hole and 
the slots in the barrel.  You can put the tabs one way for low heat, but 
it wont fully open the hole at full "on."  The other way (90º) you get 
full on in "on" but not full off.


But if you know where it is now, you can change the seasonal setting 
without draiining the heater core.  I assume you already pulled the 
barrels, cleaned, lubed and installed new orings already.   So on the 
driver side, for example, IF you now can't shut OFF the heat for FL. 
turn the heater lever to full off; Pull the operator tab off the barrel; 
turn the heater lever to full on  reattach tab.   Now, when you turn the 
heat off, it is really off, but you still have sufficient heat for FL 
and defrost.


for Winter operation (outside the deep south), you would want to do the 
opposite.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 6:01 AM:

Curley,

Please elaborate.  , I wasn’t aware of such a setting.

Thanks!

-D



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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

PO of the last SL I bought ran about 50psi.  He'd gone for a brisk drive and 
then measured
the tire temperatures across the face of the tread, and kept inflating until it 
was even.
The Falken (?) tires were rated for the pressure he'd ended up with.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

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Yes, ride is a little harder, I think braking distance may increase (smaller 
contact patch), but the tires will last a lot longer.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On March 31, 2019 12:47:22 PM EDT, "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:
>So maybe I should be running mine higher.  Would it affect the ride
>quality?
>
>On 3/31/2019 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On March 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you
>should run your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said.
>Reason being is tires now days are different and need higher pressure.
>If you run the factory pressure tires are under inflated and wear out
>the edges faster. I call BS but now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not.
>> Dan said something about the 18s needing higher pressure than the 16s
>and his wife wearing them fast when he inflated them to placard
>pressures.
>> I tend to run closer to sidewall max than to placard pressure just
>because it lowers rolling resistance and wear. Never had them wear the
>centers out from 'overpressure', but have worn edges from being too
>low. Wayne Gertes of cleanmpg.com got something like 120k from the
>factory installed tires on his Accord and posted pics, they were worn
>but not quite to the wear bars, I think he said 3/32-4/32 tread left.
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Well forget that.  I just checked the spare 124 mirror, no holes in the pins.

Just for grins, I pulled out the spring, so the pins came out.  One could drill 
a nice hole in a pin easily.  Putting the spring back was a little fiddly but 
only took a few minutes with a flat screwdriver and a pliers.

The last time I installed a mirror, I used a rubber mallet.  BE CAREFUL YOU 
DON'T SLIP AND CRACK THE WINDSHIELD! Grease the pins to aid insertion.  Put 
mirror base in place with one pin inserted, the other out.  Put the handle butt 
against the high side of the base, head pointed down.  Hit the head of the 
mallet with your free hand to knock the high side pin into place.
-- 
Max Dillon
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On March 31, 2019 10:48:03 AM EDT, Max Dillon  wrote:
>Bob, Dan recently shared the trick.  Compress the spring with a slip
>wrench.  Insert a stiff wire or something similar in the retaining hole
>on the pin.  Install mirror, pull out wire.

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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

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In my case I run all factory wheels and sizes

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Depends on the tire.  For low profile tires (18" rims, for instance), use 
> 40-45.  Better wear, better handling, and greatly reduced road damage.
> 
> I set mine pretty much by the wear profile -- if the inner section is wearing 
> faster than the edges, it' too hard, if the outer is wearing faster, it's 
> under inflated.Adjust as required.
> 
> Usually the factory recommendation for the listed tire sizes are correct, but 
> when you don't have the original size installed, you have to figure it out.
> 
> I raised the pressure in the Golf (18" rims) to 45 front 40 rear and fixed a 
> large number of issues, including excess tire wear.  Far less road damage 
> too, but that is partially because the State finally fixed most of the 
> highway to work and there are far fewer craters to dodge.
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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

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Higher pressure will ride a little harder, but handling will be crisper. I
always run 2-5 psi higher than factory recommendations.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 11:47 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So maybe I should be running mine higher.  Would it affect the ride
> quality?
>
> On 3/31/2019 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
> >> On March 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you
> should run your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason
> being is tires now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run
> the factory pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges
> faster. I call BS but now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not.
> > Dan said something about the 18s needing higher pressure than the 16s
> and his wife wearing them fast when he inflated them to placard pressures.
> > I tend to run closer to sidewall max than to placard pressure just
> because it lowers rolling resistance and wear. Never had them wear the
> centers out from 'overpressure', but have worn edges from being too low.
> Wayne Gertes of cleanmpg.com got something like 120k from the factory
> installed tires on his Accord and posted pics, they were worn but not quite
> to the wear bars, I think he said 3/32-4/32 tread left.
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Re: [MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

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Depends on the tire.  For low profile tires (18" rims, for instance), use 
40-45.  Better wear, better handling, and greatly reduced road damage.

I set mine pretty much by the wear profile -- if the inner section is wearing 
faster than the edges, it' too hard, if the outer is wearing faster, it's under 
inflated.Adjust as required.

Usually the factory recommendation for the listed tire sizes are correct, but 
when you don't have the original size installed, you have to figure it out.

I raised the pressure in the Golf (18" rims) to 45 front 40 rear and fixed a 
large number of issues, including excess tire wear.  Far less road damage too, 
but that is partially because the State finally fixed most of the highway to 
work and there are far fewer craters to dodge.
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[MBZ] Tire pressure was Re: The FB idiocy is appalling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So maybe I should be running mine higher.  Would it affect the ride quality?

On 3/31/2019 11:27 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On March 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
 wrote:


There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you should run 
your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason being is tires 
now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run the factory 
pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges faster. I call BS but 
now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not.

Dan said something about the 18s needing higher pressure than the 16s and his 
wife wearing them fast when he inflated them to placard pressures.
I tend to run closer to sidewall max than to placard pressure just because it 
lowers rolling resistance and wear. Never had them wear the centers out from 
'overpressure', but have worn edges from being too low. Wayne Gertes of 
cleanmpg.com got something like 120k from the factory installed tires on his 
Accord and posted pics, they were worn but not quite to the wear bars, I think 
he said 3/32-4/32 tread left.

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Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[OK Don via Mercedes]

You can usually straighten out the pan with strategic hammering over a
large heavy plate of steel or something. A straight edge will show you
where the highs and lows are.

On Sun, Mar 31, 2019 at 11:19 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Used to see that on Borg-Warner transaxles in Saabs all the time.
> Guy I worked for had a bunch of Napoleon hat shaped thick washers made up
> to spread out the clamping forces so he could torque them down without
> denting them.
> I preferred to just tap them flat with a 8oz ball pein (ball end) and
> torque them to (barely snug) spec. It's not that hard to knock the
> overtorque dents out of a thin pan rim with the ball pein.
> Just carefully taptaptap until it looks good.
> Mitch.
> > On March 31, 2019 at 10:45 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Craig, if you have over-tightened the pan bolts, you may have warped the
> pan.
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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> On March 31, 2019 at 12:11 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you should run 
> your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason being is tires 
> now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run the factory 
> pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges faster. I call BS 
> but now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not. 

Dan said something about the 18s needing higher pressure than the 16s and his 
wife wearing them fast when he inflated them to placard pressures. 
I tend to run closer to sidewall max than to placard pressure just because it 
lowers rolling resistance and wear. Never had them wear the centers out from 
'overpressure', but have worn edges from being too low. Wayne Gertes of 
cleanmpg.com got something like 120k from the factory installed tires on his 
Accord and posted pics, they were worn but not quite to the wear bars, I think 
he said 3/32-4/32 tread left.

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Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Used to see that on Borg-Warner transaxles in Saabs all the time. 
Guy I worked for had a bunch of Napoleon hat shaped thick washers made up to 
spread out the clamping forces so he could torque them down without denting 
them. 
I preferred to just tap them flat with a 8oz ball pein (ball end) and torque 
them to (barely snug) spec. It's not that hard to knock the overtorque dents 
out of a thin pan rim with the ball pein. 
Just carefully taptaptap until it looks good. 
Mitch. 
> On March 31, 2019 at 10:45 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Craig, if you have over-tightened the pan bolts, you may have warped the pan.

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

There is a long discussion going on the fruit forum about how you should run 
your tires at 40 psi instead of what the factory said. Reason being is tires 
now days are different and need higher pressure. If you run the factory 
pressure tires are under inflated and wear out the edges faster. I call BS but 
now I’m not so sure if it is BS or not. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 31, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah there was one of those yesterday. There’s always “what oil should I use, 
> what’s on the sticker or something else?”  Then you say, “how about the 
> Mobil1 like the sticker says” then you get a whole bunch of experts saying 
> it’s no good. Stupid question to begin with and even stupider answers. 
> 
> I guess they’re smarter than a bunch of automotive and chemical engineers 
> with billion dollar (euro) research budgets. But what do I know. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:48 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> What crazy thing are they saying now?
>> 
>> 
>> "Why use Mobil1 turbodiesel and truck oil? It's terrible." Paraphrasing. 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Grit your teeth and prepare to break it. I haven't broken one yet but it sure 
feels like it.
I've never done a 124 but a couple 201s which are probably the same...
-Curt

On Sunday, March 31, 2019, 10:40:12 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Any tricks or best practice is in reinstalling her rearview mirror on my 124? 
I got the old one out but the new one I got from Loren I’m having a hard time 
getting it in. I’m giving it pretty aggressive whacks with the dead blow hammer 
to no avail. Am I just a pussy?I mean specifically about putting the mirror 
back again am I a pussy, not one in general. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah there was one of those yesterday. There’s always “what oil should I use, 
what’s on the sticker or something else?”  Then you say, “how about the Mobil1 
like the sticker says” then you get a whole bunch of experts saying it’s no 
good. Stupid question to begin with and even stupider answers. 

I guess they’re smarter than a bunch of automotive and chemical engineers with 
billion dollar (euro) research budgets. But what do I know. 

--FT
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> wrote:
> 
> 
>> What crazy thing are they saying now?
> 
> 
> "Why use Mobil1 turbodiesel and truck oil? It's terrible." Paraphrasing. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Pretty soon they will probably be bored with the 123 and either flood the 
market selling them or take them to the crusher. Sort of like how the wvo craze 
ruined many good old diesels. 

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> 
> The FB generation is not mechanically inclined, so I am not really very 
> surprised.
> Many of them don't have the necessary attention span to be successful.
> Setting up a flash (or lynch?) mob seems to be more their speed.
> 
> -- Jim
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[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The FB generation is not mechanically inclined, so I am not really very 
surprised.
Many of them don't have the necessary attention span to be successful.
Setting up a flash (or lynch?) mob seems to be more their speed.

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

For Alex supposedly having his own shop, he seems like he does not know 
all that much for supposedly being a professional.  I am sure he is a 
nice guy but it just seems to me like his a DIY learning about these 
cars and also trying to do it professionally at the same time.  I bought 
a 123 line from him for this 240D I have sitting in the shop.  For $15 I 
figured it was easier than me going out to the back 40 and pulling on off.


On 3/31/2019 10:01 AM, Rdeafboy via Mercedes wrote:

I joined to see what it was like and I lucked out finding a rear bumper for my 1983 
240D ...$80 DELIVERED to Pa. from Kentucky !!  It had a San Fran transit sticker on 
it ..No galvanization of the alum. attachments at supports. Alex Vaughn made a road 
trip up my way thru to Long Island,NY.  Has his own shop & works on 123s only 
..Has used parts and very knowledgeable being a young guy ..he's the only one who I 
watch on that 123FB ...Scary how many dumb 123 owners are on that list.

Bob[Alex even took the time to show me how to repair the odometer on my extra 
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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I joined to see what it was like and I lucked out finding a rear bumper for my 
1983 240D ...$80 DELIVERED to Pa. from Kentucky !!  It had a San Fran transit 
sticker on it ..No galvanization of the alum. attachments at supports. Alex 
Vaughn made a road trip up my way thru to Long Island,NY.  Has his own shop & 
works on 123s only ..Has used parts and very knowledgeable being a young guy 
..he's the only one who I watch on that 123FB ...Scary how many dumb 123 owners 
are on that list.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Sometimes it can be a trick. You have to get in just the right position then 
whack it with the palm of your hand.

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Any tricks or best practice is in reinstalling her rearview mirror on my 124? 
> I got the old one out but the new one I got from Loren I’m having a hard time 
> getting it in. I’m giving it pretty aggressive whacks with the dead blow 
> hammer to no avail. Am I just a pussy?I mean specifically about putting the 
> mirror back again am I a pussy, not one in general. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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Yep

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:49 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last I knew, you could buy them on Amazon for $80, but that was several years 
> ago. 
> You told him to put a bumper between the cleaner housing and the valve cover?
> Can he sell his old air cleaner to Andrew?
> Mitch.
> 
>> On March 31, 2019 at 9:36 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Their great master mechanic is going to swap out his air cleaner for the 85 
>> cal version so the mounts won’t break anymore. I gave him the solution for 
>> that problem but doubt he takes the advise. Instead he will find he will be 
>> paying quite a bit more for air filters, if he can find them.
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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I guess I missed that. 

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:48 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
>> What crazy thing are they saying now?
> 
> 
> "Why use Mobil1 turbodiesel and truck oil? It's terrible." Paraphrasing. 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

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Bob, Dan recently shared the trick.  Compress the spring with a slip wrench.  
Insert a stiff wire or something similar in the retaining hole on the pin.  
Install mirror, pull out wire.
-- 
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

On March 31, 2019 10:39:26 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
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>Any tricks or best practice is in reinstalling her rearview mirror on
>my 124? I got the old one out but the new one I got from Loren I’m
>having a hard time getting it in. I’m giving it pretty aggressive
>whacks with the dead blow hammer to no avail. Am I just a pussy?I mean
>specifically about putting the mirror back again am I a pussy, not one
>in general. 
>
>Bob R
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Re: [MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Craig, if you have over-tightened the pan bolts, you may have warped the pan.  
I think a new pan is not too expensive?

Be prepared for more leaking if the pan is warped.
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Re: [MBZ] Mazcedes ready to move on

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

How about this time I paste it in from the browser, rather than
just type it in from my faulty head?

http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/mazdadt.html


The truck failed its test drive, the front left brake got very hot.

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[MBZ] W124 Rearview Mirror

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Any tricks or best practice is in reinstalling her rearview mirror on my 124? I 
got the old one out but the new one I got from Loren I’m having a hard time 
getting it in. I’m giving it pretty aggressive whacks with the dead blow hammer 
to no avail. Am I just a pussy?I mean specifically about putting the mirror 
back again am I a pussy, not one in general. 

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] E320

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

The dolly idea sounds like a winner.  Less money than the professionals, and 
offers
son-training opportunities.  The V10 Dodge is rumored to know how to tow.

Son is vaguely interested in earning a few shekels helping on the tranny swap.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

The W124 sites are pictures of their whips, yo, and discussions on how to get 
some gaudy-ass wheels stuffed into the fender wells. Some are worse than 
others. All are useless. 

Bob R

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 6:49 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Last I knew, you could buy them on Amazon for $80, but that was several years 
> ago. 
> You told him to put a bumper between the cleaner housing and the valve cover?
> Can he sell his old air cleaner to Andrew?
> Mitch.
> 
>> On March 31, 2019 at 9:36 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Their great master mechanic is going to swap out his air cleaner for the 85 
>> cal version so the mounts won’t break anymore. I gave him the solution for 
>> that problem but doubt he takes the advise. Instead he will find he will be 
>> paying quite a bit more for air filters, if he can find them.
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[MBZ] OFFLIST Re: HELP!!!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 30 Mar 2019 23:44:59 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Pour a pint on the same floor and see how far it spreads in the same 
> time.  Or, start a drip and measure how much is gone when the puddle 
> equals the same size as your car's puddle.    A pint of ATF goes a LONG
> way!

Did you see both pictures?


> 7-8 nm   Translation: barely snug.

Now I will have to borrow the inch-pound torque wrench again and reset
the torque of the bolts I tightened to 100 - 120 inch-pounds ...


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Clay!!!

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

If fixing the blower didn't result in good cabin heat at all times,
something else was wrong.  My W115 heated well, and I'm
pretty sure it's colder here than there.

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Re: [MBZ] HELP!!!

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> What went wrong?!

Engine must be running to fill beyond 50% (?) point.
Pretty much true of all automatic transmissions.

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Last I knew, you could buy them on Amazon for $80, but that was several years 
ago. 
You told him to put a bumper between the cleaner housing and the valve cover?
Can he sell his old air cleaner to Andrew?
Mitch.

> On March 31, 2019 at 9:36 AM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Their great master mechanic is going to swap out his air cleaner for the 85 
> cal version so the mounts won’t break anymore. I gave him the solution for 
> that problem but doubt he takes the advise. Instead he will find he will be 
> paying quite a bit more for air filters, if he can find them.

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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>What crazy thing are they saying now?


"Why use Mobil1 turbodiesel and truck oil? It's terrible." Paraphrasing. 

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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Their great master mechanic is going to swap out his air cleaner for the 85 cal 
version so the mounts won’t break anymore. I gave him the solution for that 
problem but doubt he takes the advise. Instead he will find he will be paying 
quite a bit more for air filters, if he can find them. 

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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:31 AM, Michael Esh via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It is pretty entertaining!  And it’s nice to think im alot way smarter then 
> most of them inbeciles ?  (@:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah that’s pretty much it, though often cringeworthy 
>> 
>> There’s a group for 124 and for 210, mostly guys post pics of their cars. 
>> The 123 group has a lot of issues though, with mostly wrong advice given. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> it might be entertaining to laugh at their lunacy.
>>> 
>>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 1:41 AM:
 Yeah. I guess I better log on and have a look see.. .
 BTW, what is a good 124 group on FB? 210?
 
 
 Rick
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] wow this is sure nice

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Yes price is silly, and I suspect it could be a polished turd.

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> I truly doubt the seller is being honest in the description. It looks nice 
> but it has a lot of Armorall sprayed on it.Look at the last photo. Is that 
> rust on the edge under the trunk seal?The price is silly.Sent from my Galaxy 
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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It is pretty entertaining!  And it’s nice to think im alot way smarter then 
most of them inbeciles ?  (@:





> On Mar 31, 2019, at 8:56 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah that’s pretty much it, though often cringeworthy 
> 
> There’s a group for 124 and for 210, mostly guys post pics of their cars. The 
> 123 group has a lot of issues though, with mostly wrong advice given. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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>> On Mar 31, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> it might be entertaining to laugh at their lunacy.
>> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 1:41 AM:
>>> Yeah. I guess I better log on and have a look see.. .
>>> BTW, what is a good 124 group on FB? 210?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] wow this is sure nice

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I truly doubt the seller is being honest in the description. It looks nice but 
it has a lot of Armorall sprayed on it.Look at the last photo. Is that rust on 
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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Most of those guys are pretty stupid. Even the so called expert that supposedly 
runs a shop of some sort. What crazy thing are they saying now?

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> Looking at the crazy stuff that gets posted in the FB 123 group just makes ME 
> crazy
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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

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> On March 31, 2019 at 8:56 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah that’s pretty much it, though often cringeworthy 
> 
> There’s a group for 124 and for 210, mostly guys post pics of their cars. The 
> 123 group has a lot of issues though, with mostly wrong advice given. 

How do you say "Your experience brings nothing of value to the discussion when 
you have no training and keep doing it wrong again and again"?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that’s pretty much it, though often cringeworthy 

There’s a group for 124 and for 210, mostly guys post pics of their cars. The 
123 group has a lot of issues though, with mostly wrong advice given. 

--FT
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> On Mar 31, 2019, at 4:08 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> it might be entertaining to laugh at their lunacy.
> 
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 1:41 AM:
>> Yeah. I guess I better log on and have a look see.. .
>> BTW, what is a good 124 group on FB? 210?
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Clay!!!

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Curley,

Please elaborate. I’m quite familiar with the heater valves on the 
W110/111/112, I wasn’t aware of such a setting.

Thanks!

-D

> On Mar 31, 2019, at 4:06 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> maybe the heater valves were not set right.  On the 110/111/112 the heater 
> valves have 2 settings.  One is warm climates.  it is good to about 30º.   
> the other is for frigid zones.  It will cook you out when it is 20 below on 
> full heat.  But when it is in the off position, there is still some heat. 
> (Not fun when it is 90+ without air conditioning.)  But you can switch over 
> spring and fall.  run the warm climate setting in summer and run the frigid 
> zone  setting in the winter.  Maybe the 115 has similar settings?
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:38 AM:
>> My w115 seemed to need forward motion to encourage the warm air to flow into 
>> the cabin.  Then, again, I was driving winters in PNW with cold moist air.  
>> The defog was not an issue, as the engine would warm up within a mile of 
>> lighting off.  Warm would travel to the windscreen and clear it with ease.
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what 
>>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 30, 2019, at 3:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I did it twice - always successful - never had an issue with the cabin heat
>>> once the blower was working.
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Re: [MBZ] wow this is sure nice

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Needs Euro bumpers.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

it might be entertaining to laugh at their lunacy.

Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 1:41 AM:

Yeah. I guess I better log on and have a look see.. .
BTW, what is a good 124 group on FB? 210?


Rick





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Re: [MBZ] Clay!!!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

maybe the heater valves were not set right.  On the 110/111/112 the 
heater valves have 2 settings.  One is warm climates.  it is good to 
about 30º.   the other is for frigid zones.  It will cook you out when 
it is 20 below on full heat.  But when it is in the off position, there 
is still some heat. (Not fun when it is 90+ without air conditioning.)  
But you can switch over spring and fall.  run the warm climate setting 
in summer and run the frigid zone  setting in the winter.  Maybe the 115 
has similar settings?


Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:38 AM:

My w115 seemed to need forward motion to encourage the warm air to flow into 
the cabin.  Then, again, I was driving winters in PNW with cold moist air.  The 
defog was not an issue, as the engine would warm up within a mile of lighting 
off.  Warm would travel to the windscreen and clear it with ease.

clay monroe


I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
looking for didn't fall out.




On Mar 30, 2019, at 3:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:

I did it twice - always successful - never had an issue with the cabin heat
once the blower was working.


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Re: [MBZ] The FB idiocy is appalling

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

so!   Why look?  They don't want to know what's true.

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/31/19 12:08 AM:

Looking at the crazy stuff that gets posted in the FB 123 group just makes ME 
crazy

--FT



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