Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

There is a big ugly black plastic thing where there should be an engine.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM:


One more thing…

Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is glaringly 
wrong:



If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site:

http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0






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Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 21 May 2019 22:32:34 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Whew!
> 
> Refilled the cooling system with water and closed it up. Moved the
> vehicle back into the driveway and called it a night.

Whew! is right!


> One more thing…
> 
> Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is
> glaringly wrong:
>
> If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site:
> 
> http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0

I presume you mean

http://penoff.com/Photo_Dump_files/Media/2002 ML500 - 1 (1)/2002 ML500 -
1 (1).jpg

And, no, I don't see anything glaringly wrong. I see some little grey
oddities on the two vertical pipes on the A/C condenser, some odd stuff
on the body behind the right headlight, and, I presume, the sound
encapsulation on the garage floor. Of course, not being there is a
handicap.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Oh, yeah, I’m not messing with the drain valve again, that’s for sure. Lower 
hose in the future.

-D


> On May 21, 2019, at 10:41 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Drain?  Don't need no Stnking drain! Be a man!   Pull off the lower 
> hose at the radiator.Drain is OK on the 111, but on 123+ where it is a 
> little plastic thing, Pull the hose!
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM:
>> Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every 
>> time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, 
>> it’s really frustrating.
>> 
>> Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the 
>> garage and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir.
>> 
>> Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the 
>> radiator. Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock 
>> on the front left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that.
>> 
>> Not.
>> 
>> I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to 
>> unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the 
>> front behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully 
>> turn, fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely 
>> a trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more 
>> coolant comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had 
>> taken the cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain.
>> 
>> I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a 
>> crescent wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. 
>> Hmm.
>> 
>> So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were 
>> reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. 
>> Installed the new reservoir, not a big deal.
>> 
>> I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, 
>> and it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts 
>> out no problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper 
>> and unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount 
>> the caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of 
>> tension on it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in 
>> anticipation for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some 
>> of the tension on it.
>> 
>> Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight.
>> 
>> Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I 
>> really wanted to bleed the whole brake system, as the fluid looked terrible, 
>> but I had barely half a liter on the shelf so I didn’t want to run out. 
>> Something for the next parts run. Bled out the caliper and put everything 
>> back in place. Back to the cooling system.
>> 
>> So now it’s time to close the valve on the radiator and fill the system up 
>> with some water for now. I’ll run it with straight water in it for a few 
>> miles, then drain and flush it before filling with MB coolant.
>> 
>> So I start turning the valve with my two wrenches, alternating them to get 
>> on the valve tab. I turn a lot. I turn more. I’m thinking that there is no 
>> way I unscrewed this valve that far. So I get into the area around the valve 
>> with a light and a mirror, and notice the valve is sticking out of the 
>> radiator quite a ways. It appeared that I was turning the valve but it was 
>> not engaging whatever means it used to move back into the radiator housing. 
>> Perhaps I unscrewed it too far?
>> 
>> So I go at it again with my wrenches, applying pressure on the valve as I 
>> turn. After a few turns it appears to be moving into the housing. I finally 
>> get it to a point where it seems tight, and put some water in the coolant 
>> reservoir. Then I hear dripping….
>> 
>> Apparently the valve isn’t sealing or all the way closed. But I tightened it 
>> down as far as I dared since it was a plastic valve. I get on it with my 
>> crescent wrench and turn it again as hard as I dare without braking it. The 
>> dripping stops. I had moved it maybe 10-15 degrees, if that. But it seemed 
>> to be sealed.
>> 
>> Whew!
>> 
>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Drain?  Don't need no Stnking drain!     Be a man!   Pull off the 
lower hose at the radiator.    Drain is OK on the 111, but on 123+ where 
it is a little plastic thing, Pull the hose!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 9:32 PM:

Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every 
time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, it’s 
really frustrating.

Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the garage 
and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir.

Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the radiator. 
Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock on the front 
left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that.

Not.

I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to 
unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the front 
behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully turn, 
fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely a 
trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more coolant 
comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had taken the 
cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain.

I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a crescent 
wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. Hmm.

So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were 
reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. Installed 
the new reservoir, not a big deal.

I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, and 
it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts out no 
problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper and 
unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount the 
caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of tension on 
it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in anticipation 
for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some of the tension on 
it.

Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight.

Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I really 
wanted to bleed the whole brake system, as the fluid looked terrible, but I had 
barely half a liter on the shelf so I didn’t want to run out. Something for the 
next parts run. Bled out the caliper and put everything back in place. Back to 
the cooling system.

So now it’s time to close the valve on the radiator and fill the system up with 
some water for now. I’ll run it with straight water in it for a few miles, then 
drain and flush it before filling with MB coolant.

So I start turning the valve with my two wrenches, alternating them to get on 
the valve tab. I turn a lot. I turn more. I’m thinking that there is no way I 
unscrewed this valve that far. So I get into the area around the valve with a 
light and a mirror, and notice the valve is sticking out of the radiator quite 
a ways. It appeared that I was turning the valve but it was not engaging 
whatever means it used to move back into the radiator housing. Perhaps I 
unscrewed it too far?

So I go at it again with my wrenches, applying pressure on the valve as I turn. 
After a few turns it appears to be moving into the housing. I finally get it to 
a point where it seems tight, and put some water in the coolant reservoir. Then 
I hear dripping….

Apparently the valve isn’t sealing or all the way closed. But I tightened it 
down as far as I dared since it was a plastic valve. I get on it with my 
crescent wrench and turn it again as hard as I dare without braking it. The 
dripping stops. I had moved it maybe 10-15 degrees, if that. But it seemed to 
be sealed.

Whew!





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[MBZ] Today's ML500 Abuse

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Don’t know what it is about this vehicle… it seems to want to test me every 
time I touch it, and while everything seems to end well for the most part, it’s 
really frustrating.

Got my Cardone caliper this afternoon, so I figured I would cool off the garage 
and put it on along with the new coolant reservoir.

Go to drain the cooling system and can’t find the darned drain on the radiator. 
Weird. Get on the computer to find that there is a plastic petcock on the front 
left side of the radiator. OK, I can do that.

Not.

I find the petcock, but I can’t turn it. It’s a plastic tab that you turn to 
unscrew the valve out to open it, and it’s in a really tight space in the front 
behind the bumper. I finally get a crescent wrench on it and carefully turn, 
fully expecting it to snap off. It doesn’t. Relief! But there’s barely a 
trickle of coolant coming out of the drain. I turn some more, and more coolant 
comes out, but it’s hardly anything of significance. And yes, I had taken the 
cap off of the reservoir prior to opening the drain.

I turn it a few more times alternating between a monkey wrench and a crescent 
wrench to turn it. Coolant is coming out now, but not a big gush. Hmm.

So I work on replacing the coolant reservoir. Not bad, a few hoses were 
reluctant to come off, but I got them off without damage eventually. Installed 
the new reservoir, not a big deal.

I move to the right rear to do the caliper. I break the hose fitting first, and 
it comes loose without issue (thank you, Kroil!!!) Get the caliper bolts out no 
problem. Disconnect the wear indicator connector. Remove the caliper and 
unscrew it from the hose. Screw the hose into the new caliper and mount the 
caliper back on the backing plate. Tighten hose. It’s got a bit of tension on 
it, so I soaked the hard line fitting where it meets the hose in anticipation 
for breaking this union and rotating the hose to relieve some of the tension on 
it.

Nope, not going to tempt Fate tonight.

Get the rear caliper all tightened down and hook up my power bleeder. I really 
wanted to bleed the whole brake system, as the fluid looked terrible, but I had 
barely half a liter on the shelf so I didn’t want to run out. Something for the 
next parts run. Bled out the caliper and put everything back in place. Back to 
the cooling system.

So now it’s time to close the valve on the radiator and fill the system up with 
some water for now. I’ll run it with straight water in it for a few miles, then 
drain and flush it before filling with MB coolant.

So I start turning the valve with my two wrenches, alternating them to get on 
the valve tab. I turn a lot. I turn more. I’m thinking that there is no way I 
unscrewed this valve that far. So I get into the area around the valve with a 
light and a mirror, and notice the valve is sticking out of the radiator quite 
a ways. It appeared that I was turning the valve but it was not engaging 
whatever means it used to move back into the radiator housing. Perhaps I 
unscrewed it too far?

So I go at it again with my wrenches, applying pressure on the valve as I turn. 
After a few turns it appears to be moving into the housing. I finally get it to 
a point where it seems tight, and put some water in the coolant reservoir. Then 
I hear dripping….

Apparently the valve isn’t sealing or all the way closed. But I tightened it 
down as far as I dared since it was a plastic valve. I get on it with my 
crescent wrench and turn it again as hard as I dare without braking it. The 
dripping stops. I had moved it maybe 10-15 degrees, if that. But it seemed to 
be sealed.

Whew!

Refilled the cooling system with water and closed it up. Moved the vehicle back 
into the driveway and called it a night.

One more thing…

Take a look at this picture of the car and tell me what I *think* is glaringly 
wrong:



If you can’t see the picture, here’s a link to it on my web site:

http://penoff.com/Photo_dump.html#0



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Re: [MBZ] I think the odo might have rolled over

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Maybe not.   Run a carfax.   It HAS been sitting in the sun for 20 
years.   Mighta ran when parked.


Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 8:24 PM:

https://www.copart.com/lot/45039118




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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Hopefully those bees just moved in and will be easy to get back out.

I've had a few cut-outs that turned into nightmares

I greatly prefer catching swarms like my brother and I did this year -- leave 
an old hive out and have the bees move in.  Much less hassle.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Oh OK. That’s what he was describing. I’ll be interested to see what he does. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 8:54 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Nuc" is short for nucleus.  The heart of a full hive.
> 
> -- Jim
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[MBZ] I think the odo might have rolled over

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.copart.com/lot/45039118


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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

"Nuc" is short for nucleus.  The heart of a full hive.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Bees

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 21 May 2019 19:43:53 -0400 archer75--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> A bee keeper in a small town near the UF Med School came in to the
> clinic and was diagnoses with lymphocytic leukemia. Treatment was
> ineffective and he was sent home to die. Probably because of his
> declining health, he fell or knocked over a bee hive and got bitten so
> many times the ambulance drivers thought he would die before they could
> got him to the med school. He survived the bee stings and tests showed
> that his leukemia had disappeared.
> 
> Someone wrote it up, it was published, and since then bee venom has
> been used to treat a number of diseases including cancers:
> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22109081 Gerry

That's really neat! Thanks, Gerry.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Pull it, plug it, then forget it ...

On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 4:52 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I would be worried about sudden catastrophic failure while cruising along
> at 75 miles an hour on the interstate.
>
> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 4:46 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > If it hold air, leave it.   When it starts leaking, plug it.
> >
> > Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 3:16 PM:
> > > I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire
> > for some miles, as the head is well worn.
> > >
> > > The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just leave it
> > alone? After all, as the head wears off I would expect it’s even less
> > likely to come out, as less mass would be that much less affected by the
> > centrifugal forces.
> > >
> > > Hmm.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] Bees

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

A bee keeper in a small town near the UF Med School came in to the clinic and 
was diagnoses with lymphocytic leukemia. Treatment was ineffective and he was 
sent home to die.
Probably because of his declining health, he fell or knocked over a bee hive 
and got bitten so many times the ambulance drivers thought he would die before 
they could got him to the med school.
He survived the bee stings and tests showed that his leukemia had disappeared.

Someone wrote it up, it was published, and since then bee venom has been used 
to treat a number of diseases including cancers:
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22109081
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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I like the sound of that. I love lime juice in almost everything.

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 5:36 PM archer75--- via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Here's something for you beer drinkers to try:
> "
> Belgian monks resurrect 220-year-old beer after finding recipe
>
> Grimbergen Abbey brew incorporates methods found in 12th-century books
>
>
> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/21/belgian-monks-grimbergen-abbey-old-beer
>
> .
> Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > Bud Light. End of story.
> >
> > On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
> > > Spring Minnesota.
> > >
> > > Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A
> > > friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the
> vats.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
> > > > My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> > > >
> > > > Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> > > >
> > > > Rick
> > > >
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

One wonders how the technique of capturing queen bees and moving hives ever
developed in the first place. Trial and error?

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 5:16 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
wrote:

> If you’re moving bees you use what’s called a “package”, which is nothing
> more than a box with open sides and screen over the openings. You put a
> feeding can in the box with sugar syrup so the bees have something to eat
> while in transport. A queen and some of the workers are put in a little
> wooden box with one side open that’s screened so the hive can see and smell
> her but not get to her.
>
> These are usually the means by which you get bees to a new hive. The queen
> is kept separate because the bees in the package are not typically related
> to her.
>
> A “nuc” is a beehive with several frames in it that are already
> established and have a laying queen that’s related to the bees in the hive.
> The advantage to using a nuc is that it’s effectively an established hive.
> Once things are going well in the nuc you can move the frames and queen to
> a full sized hive.
>
> Remember, bees build a colony, so relationship with the queen is
> important. If the queen is unrelated it can take a while (a couple of
> weeks, usually) for the bees to associate with her and for her to start
> laying eggs.
>
> I kept bees in Indiana on a small scale on the property of one of my
> business partners. It was a lot of fun and pretty cool.
>
> -D
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah I’m leaving it to this guy, he seemed to know his stuff. He said
> the ones around here are generally docile but if they worked up and one
> stings you that one releases a pheromone that sets others off then it’s
> time to run. He said a bunch of them chased him once, he had to run about
> 100yd and jump in the creek to get away from them. I’m gonna watch from a
> distance.
> >
> > Interesting technique, he’ll try to find the queen and a coupla workers
> and put them in a little cage then in something he called a “nuke” that
> will draw the others, then he’ll move them to a real hive then take them
> away. It might take a few days for it all to work out.
> >
> > --R
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On May 21, 2019, at 3:56 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Use great care around bees. Almost all bee colony's are now invaded with
> >> Africanized bees, well known as "killer bees". They are VERY aggressive
> >> when messed with, and quite aggressive when not messed with.
> >>
> >> From personal experience I can tell you their stings are WAY more toxic
> >> than "regular bees". I had a colony set up shop at the Ranch that was so
> >> aggressive they pursued me for over a mile across the ranch before I got
> >> away from them. Called in some pro bee guys and even with the big bee
> suits
> >> THEY got stung a bunch.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
> >>> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.When it got hot in the
> >>> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey
> ran
> >>> down into the sanctuary.
> >>>
> >>> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
> >>> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
> >>>
> >>> True story!
> >>>
> >>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
>  Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
>  a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
>  which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
>  our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
>  opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
>  excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
>  responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
>  getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
>  in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
> 
>  This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
>  dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
>  bees from other parts of the world.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

 I would be worried about sudden catastrophic failure while cruising along
at 75 miles an hour on the interstate.

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 4:46 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If it hold air, leave it.   When it starts leaking, plug it.
>
> Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 3:16 PM:
> > I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire
> for some miles, as the head is well worn.
> >
> > The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just leave it
> alone? After all, as the head wears off I would expect it’s even less
> likely to come out, as less mass would be that much less affected by the
> centrifugal forces.
> >
> > Hmm.
> >
> > -D
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

Here's something for you beer drinkers to try:
"
Belgian monks resurrect 220-year-old beer after finding recipe

Grimbergen Abbey brew incorporates methods found in 12th-century books

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/21/belgian-monks-grimbergen-abbey-old-beer

.
Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> Bud Light. End of story.
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
> > Spring Minnesota.
> >
> > Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A
> > friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the vats.
> >
> >
> >
> > Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
> > > My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> > >
> > > Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> >
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: Plugging Tires

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I agree with Mitch on this. Pull it out and repair. Else it is likely to go 
flat at an inconvenient (or even unsafe!) time. I'm a lot fussier about tires 
than I am about paint!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires


> On May 21, 2019 at 4:16 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire for 
> some miles, as the head is well worn.

Nails don't fly out, philips screwdrivers don't even fly out, but once the head 
is gone they can get pushed in. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Strohs was the favorite of the guys from Da Region. They consumed huge 
quantities. It was a constant source of argument. 

Coots was quite exotic. I remember some guys renting a uhaul over thanksgiving, 
drove straight through from Indiana to Colorado and skied a coupla days then 
loaded up the trailer with coors which they then sold for some exorbitant price 
to the marks around campus. They paid for their trip and made a bit of profit. 
Budding (cooring?)ontapanuers. 

--FT
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> On May 21, 2019, at 3:36 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I knew of a nun in KY who loved Stroh's Bohemian beer.   Anyone who headed 
> that way from MI was expected to bring her some Stroh's.   Not a bad beer.
> 
> When I was in kolledge we made runs to KS or CO to get Coors.   Nothing 
> exceptional about it, but if you had some you were "cool."   rocky mountain 
> trout pee.
> 
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:28 PM:
>> There were guys from Pittsburg in my dorm who loved that stuff, would bring 
>> back cases of it when they went home on holidays
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 5/21/19 2:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
>>> My worst beer was Iron City. We used to call it "iron ti**y skunk water".
>>> 
>>> Greg
>>> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

If you’re moving bees you use what’s called a “package”, which is nothing more 
than a box with open sides and screen over the openings. You put a feeding can 
in the box with sugar syrup so the bees have something to eat while in 
transport. A queen and some of the workers are put in a little wooden box with 
one side open that’s screened so the hive can see and smell her but not get to 
her.

These are usually the means by which you get bees to a new hive. The queen is 
kept separate because the bees in the package are not typically related to her.

A “nuc” is a beehive with several frames in it that are already established and 
have a laying queen that’s related to the bees in the hive. The advantage to 
using a nuc is that it’s effectively an established hive. Once things are going 
well in the nuc you can move the frames and queen to a full sized hive.

Remember, bees build a colony, so relationship with the queen is important. If 
the queen is unrelated it can take a while (a couple of weeks, usually) for the 
bees to associate with her and for her to start laying eggs.

I kept bees in Indiana on a small scale on the property of one of my business 
partners. It was a lot of fun and pretty cool.

-D




> On May 21, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I’m leaving it to this guy, he seemed to know his stuff. He said the 
> ones around here are generally docile but if they worked up and one stings 
> you that one releases a pheromone that sets others off then it’s time to run. 
> He said a bunch of them chased him once, he had to run about 100yd and jump 
> in the creek to get away from them. I’m gonna watch from a distance. 
> 
> Interesting technique, he’ll try to find the queen and a coupla workers and 
> put them in a little cage then in something he called a “nuke” that will draw 
> the others, then he’ll move them to a real hive then take them away. It might 
> take a few days for it all to work out. 
> 
> --R
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 3:56 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Use great care around bees. Almost all bee colony's are now invaded with
>> Africanized bees, well known as "killer bees". They are VERY aggressive
>> when messed with, and quite aggressive when not messed with.
>> 
>> From personal experience I can tell you their stings are WAY more toxic
>> than "regular bees". I had a colony set up shop at the Ranch that was so
>> aggressive they pursued me for over a mile across the ranch before I got
>> away from them. Called in some pro bee guys and even with the big bee suits
>> THEY got stung a bunch.
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
>>> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.When it got hot in the
>>> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran
>>> down into the sanctuary.
>>> 
>>> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
>>> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
>>> 
>>> True story!
>>> 
>>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
 Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
 a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
 which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
 our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
 opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
 excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
 responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
 getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
 in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
 
 This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
 dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
 bees from other parts of the world.
 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Not the end. Bud Light Lime. You cannot go further in the story. 

--FT
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> On May 21, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Bud Light. End of story.
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
>> Spring Minnesota.
>> 
>> Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A
>> friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the vats.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
>>> My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
>>> 
>>> Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I’m leaving it to this guy, he seemed to know his stuff. He said the ones 
around here are generally docile but if they worked up and one stings you that 
one releases a pheromone that sets others off then it’s time to run. He said a 
bunch of them chased him once, he had to run about 100yd and jump in the creek 
to get away from them. I’m gonna watch from a distance. 

Interesting technique, he’ll try to find the queen and a coupla workers and put 
them in a little cage then in something he called a “nuke” that will draw the 
others, then he’ll move them to a real hive then take them away. It might take 
a few days for it all to work out. 

--R
Sent from iPhone

> On May 21, 2019, at 3:56 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Use great care around bees. Almost all bee colony's are now invaded with
> Africanized bees, well known as "killer bees". They are VERY aggressive
> when messed with, and quite aggressive when not messed with.
> 
> From personal experience I can tell you their stings are WAY more toxic
> than "regular bees". I had a colony set up shop at the Ranch that was so
> aggressive they pursued me for over a mile across the ranch before I got
> away from them. Called in some pro bee guys and even with the big bee suits
> THEY got stung a bunch.
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
>> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.When it got hot in the
>> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran
>> down into the sanctuary.
>> 
>> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
>> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
>> 
>> True story!
>> 
>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
>>> Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
>>> a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
>>> which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
>>> our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
>>> opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
>>> excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
>>> responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
>>> getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
>>> in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
>>> 
>>> This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
>>> dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
>>> bees from other parts of the world.
>>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

If it hold air, leave it.   When it starts leaking, plug it.

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 3:16 PM:

I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire for 
some miles, as the head is well worn.

The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just leave it alone? 
After all, as the head wears off I would expect it’s even less likely to come 
out, as less mass would be that much less affected by the centrifugal forces.

Hmm.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

In my new nokian, I think one of the regular plugs would have been fine, 
but they spooked me by saying it could not be fixed.   So I ordered the 
mushroom patch/plug to be sure something would hold.   But it was about 
1/4 of the way in from the shoulder, so a plug would have worked just fine.


MG via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:56 PM:
I carry one of those gooey cord plug sets in the car all the time. it 
has helped more than once or twice over the years. No problems, just 
does the job and lasts till the tire gets replaced  because it's worn 
out.


MG




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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 21, 2019 at 4:16 PM Dan--- via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire for 
> some miles, as the head is well worn.

Nails don't fly out, philips screwdrivers don't even fly out, but once the head 
is gone they can get pushed in. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

I’m torn because this is clearly a roofing nail that’s been in the tire for 
some miles, as the head is well worn.

The question is, do I pull it out and plug the hole, or just leave it alone? 
After all, as the head wears off I would expect it’s even less likely to come 
out, as less mass would be that much less affected by the centrifugal forces.

Hmm.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

good one. milk and honey
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 3:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.When it got hot in the
> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran
> down into the sanctuary.
>
> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
>
> True story!
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
> > Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
> > a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
> > which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
> > our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
> > opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
> > excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
> > responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
> > getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
> > in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
> >
> > This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
> > dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
> > bees from other parts of the world.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Big difference north to south I guess. No sign of extra aggressive bees up 
here. This is why I live where it gets cold...
-Curt

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 3:57:40 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Use great care around bees. Almost all bee colony's are now invaded with
Africanized bees, well known as "killer bees". They are VERY aggressive
when messed with, and quite aggressive when not messed with.

From personal experience I can tell you their stings are WAY more toxic
than "regular bees". I had a colony set up shop at the Ranch that was so
aggressive they pursued me for over a mile across the ranch before I got
away from them. Called in some pro bee guys and even with the big bee suits
THEY got stung a bunch.


On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.    When it got hot in the
> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran
> down into the sanctuary.
>
> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
>
> True story!
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
> > Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
> > a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
> > which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
> > our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
> > opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
> > excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
> > responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
> > getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
> > in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
> >
> > This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
> > dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
> > bees from other parts of the world.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I can't stand the smell of any of them. If the only option is a domestic mass 
produced beer I'll have iced tea please...
-Curt

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 3:53:08 PM EDT, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I agree that Bud Light is not good, but I don't put it in the category of 
terrible beers. And Coors Light is worse than Bud.

Greg

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Bud Light. End of story.

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
> Spring Minnesota.
>
> Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.  Made in Warsaw, Il.  A
> friend of mine's dad worked there a while.  He reported rats in the vats.
>
>
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
> > My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> >
> > Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[MG via Mercedes]

I carry one of those gooey cord plug sets in 
the car all the time. it has helped more than 
once or twice over the years. No problems, 
just does the job and lasts till the tire 
gets replaced  because it's worn out.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Use great care around bees. Almost all bee colony's are now invaded with
Africanized bees, well known as "killer bees". They are VERY aggressive
when messed with, and quite aggressive when not messed with.

>From personal experience I can tell you their stings are WAY more toxic
than "regular bees". I had a colony set up shop at the Ranch that was so
aggressive they pursued me for over a mile across the ranch before I got
away from them. Called in some pro bee guys and even with the big bee suits
THEY got stung a bunch.


On Tue, May 21, 2019 at 12:44 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey
> bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.When it got hot in the
> summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran
> down into the sanctuary.
>
> So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey,
> and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"
>
> True story!
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
> > Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see
> > a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave,
> > which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of
> > our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the
> > opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all
> > excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys
> > responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start
> > getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up
> > in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!
> >
> > This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old
> > dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of
> > bees from other parts of the world.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I agree that Bud Light is not good, but I don't put it in the category of 
terrible beers. And Coors Light is worse than Bud.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

Bud Light. End of story.

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
> Spring Minnesota.
>
> Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A
> friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the vats.
>
>
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
> > My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> >
> > Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those >were my grandmother’s 
>favorites.-D

YES

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] ML500 Marthamania!

[MG via Mercedes]

If you want one of the smaller battery 
minders they are on sale right now at 
Northern Hydraulics for $15.99.


MG

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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 They've limited to the two basic styles of beer. Every beer you've ever had is 
fundamentally a lager or ale, those two are the basic styles of brewing. To 
oversimplify a lager is cold brewed (lagered) while an ale is warm brewed. My 
preferred porters and stouts are ales, pilsners are an example of lagers...
-Curt

On Tuesday, May 21, 2019, 3:12:37 PM EDT, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Bah!  Nothing about Pilseners   Nothing about Weissbier, Nothing about 
any of the hundreds of great German beers. (Belgian, Holland, Etc) 
Nothing about St Pauli Girl.   Nothing even about Heiny.   Nothing about 
Canuck, Aussie, Chinee, Japanee Biers, or any other regions.

They need to do a real study with thousands of Biers and millions of people.

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 1:45 PM:
> https://www.studyfinds.org/type-of-beer-you-drink-reveals-much-about-personality/
>
> You are what you drink?
> -
> Max, shaken not stirred
> Charleston SC
>


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Re: [MBZ] OT Bees

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

The little country church my mom went to, when she was young, had honey 
bees in the roof/eaves between the rafters.    When it got hot in the 
summer, a new pastor came to the church, and it got so hot the honey ran 
down into the sanctuary.


So the new preach gets up, introduces himself, notes the running honey, 
and says "Now I KNOW I am in the land of flowing milk and honey!"


True story!

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:35 PM:
Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see 
a whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave, 
which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of 
our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the 
opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all 
excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys 
responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start 
getting them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up 
in the eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!


This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old 
dude's estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of 
bees from other parts of the world.





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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

I knew of a nun in KY who loved Stroh's Bohemian beer.   Anyone who 
headed that way from MI was expected to bring her some Stroh's.   Not a 
bad beer.


When I was in kolledge we made runs to KS or CO to get Coors.   Nothing 
exceptional about it, but if you had some you were "cool."   rocky 
mountain trout pee.


Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 2:28 PM:
There were guys from Pittsburg in my dorm who loved that stuff, would 
bring back cases of it when they went home on holidays


--FT

On 5/21/19 2:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
My worst beer was Iron City. We used to call it "iron ti**y skunk 
water".


Greg




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[MBZ] OT Bees

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Yesterday I noticed a bunch of bees buzzing around, looked up and see a 
whole mess of them, honeybees, at an opening at the end of an eave, 
which was on my roundtuit list...  I posted my dilemma on a coupla of 
our local FB groups, and a guy from up the road jumped on the 
opportunity to come get them.  He came by a while ago and is all 
excited, figures there is a big hive in there.  3 or 4 other guys 
responded too but this one was the first.  He's gonna come start getting 
them organize on Thursday, see how much they have going on up in the 
eave.  I guess I'm gonna get some (very) local honey!


This guy has 13 hives and is looking to buy 30 more from some old dude's 
estate.  Says that guy had a whole bunch of different kinds of bees from 
other parts of the world.


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Re: [MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Bud Light. End of story.

On Tue, May 21, 2019, 1:14 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold
> Spring Minnesota.
>
> Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A
> friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the vats.
>
>
>
> Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:
> > My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> >
> > Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> >
> > Rick
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There were guys from Pittsburg in my dorm who loved that stuff, would 
bring back cases of it when they went home on holidays


--FT

On 5/21/19 2:34 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

My worst beer was Iron City. We used to call it "iron ti**y skunk water".

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:02 AM
To: Dan--- via Mercedes
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

Old Mil  and Meister were about 10 steps UP from Cold Springs.   Can't
comment on Fox.  Was Fox the bottom of the barrel at LaCrosse?   Or was
it made somewhere else.

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:54 PM:

Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those were my grandmother’s favorites.

-D


On May 21, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"

Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew after 
getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...

--FT


On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe it *was* “fox”.

Yum.

-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:


You wasted good beer on a tire?

Who said it was GOOD beer?

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Bah!  Nothing about Pilseners   Nothing about Weissbier, Nothing about 
any of the hundreds of great German beers. (Belgian, Holland, Etc) 
Nothing about St Pauli Girl.   Nothing even about Heiny.   Nothing about 
Canuck, Aussie, Chinee, Japanee Biers, or any other regions.


They need to do a real study with thousands of Biers and millions of people.

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 1:45 PM:

https://www.studyfinds.org/type-of-beer-you-drink-reveals-much-about-personality/

You are what you drink?
-
Max, shaken not stirred
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://www.studyfinds.org/type-of-beer-you-drink-reveals-much-about-personality/

You are what you drink?
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Max, shaken not stirred
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My worst beer was Iron City. We used to call it "iron ti**y skunk water".

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 11:02 AM
To: Dan--- via Mercedes
Cc: Curley McLain
Subject: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

Old Mil  and Meister were about 10 steps UP from Cold Springs.   Can't 
comment on Fox.  Was Fox the bottom of the barrel at LaCrosse?   Or was 
it made somewhere else.

Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:54 PM:
> Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those were my grandmother’s 
> favorites.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 21, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>>
>> Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"
>>
>> Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew after 
>> getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...
>>
>> --FT
>>
>>> On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Maybe it *was* “fox”.
>>>
>>> Yum.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>> You wasted good beer on a tire?
> Who said it was GOOD beer?
 My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

 Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.ratebeer.com/forums/fox-deluxe-new-beer-line-in-illinois-anybody-know-more-about-it_87246.htm

--FT

On 5/21/19 2:01 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Old Mil and Meister were about 10 steps UP from Cold Springs.   Can't 
comment on Fox.  Was Fox the bottom of the barrel at LaCrosse? Or was 
it made somewhere else.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:54 PM:
Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those were my grandmother’s 
favorites.


-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:


Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"

Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew 
after getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...


--FT


On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe it *was* “fox”.

Yum.

-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote:



You wasted good beer on a tire?

Who said it was GOOD beer?

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick
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[MBZ] BAD BEER WUZ: Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Old Mil  and Meister were about 10 steps UP from Cold Springs.   Can't 
comment on Fox.  Was Fox the bottom of the barrel at LaCrosse?   Or was 
it made somewhere else.


Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:54 PM:

Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those were my grandmother’s favorites.

-D


On May 21, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"

Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew after 
getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...

--FT


On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
Maybe it *was* “fox”.

Yum.

-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:


You wasted good beer on a tire?

Who said it was GOOD beer?

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Worse than Old Milwaukee or Meisterbrau? Those were my grandmother’s favorites.

-D

> On May 21, 2019, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"
> 
> Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew after 
> getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe it *was* “fox”.
>> 
>> Yum.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
> You wasted good beer on a tire?
 Who said it was GOOD beer?
>>> My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
>>> 
>>> Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Fox Deluxe -- "It's the Water"

Bad memories of FD, what I can remember.  Buck 9 a six, go to brew after 
getting there on Budweiser which was like $2 a 6...


--FT

On 5/21/19 1:25 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe it *was* “fox”.

Yum.

-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:


You wasted good beer on a tire?

Who said it was GOOD beer?

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Dan--- via Mercedes]

Maybe it *was* “fox”.

Yum.

-D

On May 21, 2019, at 1:03 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

>>> You wasted good beer on a tire?
> 
>> Who said it was GOOD beer?
> 
> My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...
> 
> Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.
> 
> Rick
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[MBZ] Worst beer WUZ:Plugging Tires

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Worst beer I ever had was some rotgut called Cold Spring, made in Cold 
Spring Minnesota.


Burgomeister used to have a bad reputation.   Made in Warsaw, Il.   A 
friend of mine's dad worked there a while.   He reported rats in the vats.




Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote on 5/21/19 12:03 PM:

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick




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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>> You wasted good beer on a tire?

>Who said it was GOOD beer?

My two favorite beers were "cold" and "free"...

Worst beer I ever drank was warm Fox Deluxe.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes]

On Mon, May 20, 2019 at 6:00 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You wasted good beer on a tire?
>

Who said it was GOOD beer?

-MMM-

>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Gender Roles

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I guess I'm not politically incorrect enough not to have appreciated that. Too 
bad I have only been blessed with grandsons (4) or I would certainly buy one of 
those for my granddaughter!

BTW, I have a niece who races and is an automotive parts professional. She used 
to do ice racing up in AK.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2019 2:16 AM
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Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: [MBZ] Gender Roles

Say what you want, but this is cool:

https://www.motor1.com/news/350543/mercedes-benz-mattel-partnership-video/

-D


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[MBZ] OT Movie

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://jalopnik.com/behold-the-probably-tear-inducing-first-trailer-for-the-1834898148

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Re: [MBZ] Gender Roles

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Apparently Matchbox are selling 123 models at El Mercado de Wal. I have not 
been there to check them out though. 

--FT
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> On May 21, 2019, at 5:15 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Say what you want, but this is cool:
> 
> https://www.motor1.com/news/350543/mercedes-benz-mattel-partnership-video/
> 
> -D
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Plugging Tires

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 20, 2019 at 11:13 PM Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> When I had a tire repaired on our '90 E300D in North Carolina a year ago,
> the guy lit the glue on fire ...

I've seen pics of old Monkey Grip kits that included a hot clamp. IIRC, you put 
fuel in the clamp and lit it. 
I can remember my dad helping me patch my bike tire, and he lit the glue. It 
didn't seem to help, maybe he left it burning too long. 

Mitch

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[MBZ] Gender Roles

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Say what you want, but this is cool:

https://www.motor1.com/news/350543/mercedes-benz-mattel-partnership-video/

-D


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