Re: [MBZ] Chebby brakes

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It's rained in MA every week since last June. I don't know how much we've 
exceeded our yearly totals by but it's got to be feet. It's the kind of weather 
that makes people move to California. I was in California a couple weeks ago 
and it rained a little.Right now I'm in Italy and, you guessed it, it's 
rained...
Curt

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  On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:08 PM, Mitch Haley via 
Mercedes wrote:   
> On May 25, 2019 at 1:29 PM Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> We have had a wet spring here, but nothing like having the water plant 
> flooded out.  

Last weekend they said we had 4.3" of our 2.3" average May rainfall already. 
This has been a wet week, I'm sure we're well over 5" for the month, with a 
good chance for 6" by the 31st. 
No serious floods, but I still haven't been able to get the lawnmower on my 
front yard. Tried to venture 20' past where I'd been mowing yesterday, got the 
mower stuck a couple times and decided to just stick to the back and side 
yards. 
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres water rescue

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Yup. It’s straight up called “The Stupid Motorist Law”. Aptly named. 

Bob R

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> On May 26, 2019, at 9:07 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Here, we passed a law about ten years ago that if you are an idiot and
> drive into a flooded area, you have to pay what ever it costs to rescue
> you. It has worked to get the message out not to do that.
> Here in the desert, we have flash floods, pretty violent when you see a
> wall of water coming at you 15 ft high pushing trees and rocks.
> Darwin Award time.
> 
> 
> Virus-free.
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> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
> 
> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 7:32 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> About an hour ago I thought I would go up and check on the water level. It
>> has gone done quite a bit but is far from passable. As I am looking down
>> the road toward the middle with the binoculars I see a pickup truck proceed
>> to drive thru toward us. They got almost to the middle where the fast
>> moving current was which by this time it was about half way up his grille.
>> Truck stopped moving. Uh oh. Later on the fire dept arrived to rescue them.
>> I guess he was not out in the middle though because in the deepest part
>> it’s supposed to be 6-7 feet deep.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres water rescue

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Here, we passed a law about ten years ago that if you are an idiot and
drive into a flooded area, you have to pay what ever it costs to rescue
you. It has worked to get the message out not to do that.
Here in the desert, we have flash floods, pretty violent when you see a
wall of water coming at you 15 ft high pushing trees and rocks.
Darwin Award time.


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> About an hour ago I thought I would go up and check on the water level. It
> has gone done quite a bit but is far from passable. As I am looking down
> the road toward the middle with the binoculars I see a pickup truck proceed
> to drive thru toward us. They got almost to the middle where the fast
> moving current was which by this time it was about half way up his grille.
> Truck stopped moving. Uh oh. Later on the fire dept arrived to rescue them.
> I guess he was not out in the middle though because in the deepest part
> it’s supposed to be 6-7 feet deep.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Okie acres water rescue

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

About 4 years ago we had a freak flood in June, around my house it was no 
wetter than it is right now, but a mile away it washed out a 4' storm drain 
under the road making a hole big enough to lose a car in. That's on the main 
road to town, it was a bit annoying having that road closed for over a month. 
Sort of like right now, that road's been closed for construction since April 22 
this year. 

A couple miles down the road from me, my next door neighbor saw water over the 
road and tried to go through it in his wife's Cherokee. He said when the water 
came over the hood he knew he wasn't going to make it. He waded out and a 
farmer towed him out. He had fun holding his breath while hooking the log chain 
to the trailer hitch. His wife still bitches about that bit of stupidity, she 
mentioned it to me just last week. Amazingly enough the Jeep still ran after 
they got it dried out. 1999 XJ with the straight six. 

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

BA in Geology and 2/3 of a MS.

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:04 PM Mountain Man via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Rick wrote:
> > That would be Peter, who has a doctorate in botany, I believe.
>
> Yes, but also some other science guy is here?  ...what is his sigline?...
> tin
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Re: [MBZ] This is sooooo tempting... 1997 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 420 Sedan 4D,Myrtle Beach, SC ·$700

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Ask the seller to define "fair condition".

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 12:22 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> But it's 2 hour drive up there
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/368009330504775/
>
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[MBZ] Okie acres water rescue

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

About an hour ago I thought I would go up and check on the water level. It has 
gone done quite a bit but is far from passable. As I am looking down the road 
toward the middle with the binoculars I see a pickup truck proceed to drive 
thru toward us. They got almost to the middle where the fast moving current was 
which by this time it was about half way up his grille. Truck stopped moving. 
Uh oh. Later on the fire dept arrived to rescue them. I guess he was not out in 
the middle though because in the deepest part it’s supposed to be 6-7 feet 
deep. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding — some FEMA fun

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

All that should be on file with whatever jurisdiction approved the Development. 
That stuff needs to be approved by planning department 

--R
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> On May 26, 2019, at 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> FEMA has always been a slow moving giant, like most Federal agencies.
> 
> I have a LOMA on file for my property, as my house is built on fill that the 
> developer put in to raise the area above the flood plain that it would have 
> otherwise been in.
> 
> Without getting too far into the weeds, if you go an look at the FEMA flood 
> map for my property it shows that I’m in a flood plain. Base elevation was 
> something like 24 feet before the development. But i”m really 37 feet above 
> MSL, well above the flood plain.
> 
> FEMA does not update base maps. If you make a change to property that affects 
> the elevation and it’s in a flood plain, you file a LOMA with your local 
> government, who submits it to FEMA for approval. Approval comes back and the 
> local government keeps the LOMA on file, so if anyone looks at the property 
> relative to flood maps they’ll see an exception (LOMA) stating that it’s 
> really 37 feet above MSL, NOT 24 feet like the FEMA map shows.
> 
> So anyway, I’m curious as to the work that was done to put the fill in and I 
> know that the developer would have been required to do all sorts of site 
> surveys and core samples to assure the ground was stable both before and 
> after the fill was done. I’ll never get it from the developer, as they have 
> no obligation to give it to me, and that’s if I could find them. However, all 
> of that information had to be submitted to FEMA for the approval of the LOMA, 
> so they’ve got it.
> 
> I file an FOIA request with FEMA for anything and everything related to my 
> property address. I get the obligatory confirmation letter stating they 
> received my request, and a bunch of hooey about how long it’s going to take. 
> Now if you’ve never filed a FOIA request with a Federal agency, you wouldn’t 
> know that there is a statutory requirement for response time, which is 
> something in the order of months.
> 
> A year goes by. Nada. I write them a letter requesting an update. Crickets.
> 
> 18 months. Nothing.
> 
> I call my Congressman’s office and file a complaint. I get a mea culpa letter 
> from FEMA about their HUGE backlog of requests, and that they expect mine 
> will be filled within the next three months. We’re now at the 24 month 
> milepost, I would add.
> 
> Approaching 30 months. I call my Congressman’s office again and raise heck. 
> The intern/staffer I spoke to assured me they would follow up.
> 
> Two weeks later I get my stuff. Nearly 100 pages of engineering reports, core 
> sample reports, surveys, etc., etc. A gold mine of information.
> 
> I am now satisfied that the ground beneath my home is quite stable.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We have a situation here in Charleston regarding FEMA and NFIP and what 
>> appears very strongly to be past and ongoing (federal) fraud by the 
>> Mayor/City going back a number of years involving many many $millions. 3 
>> friends of mine wrote a very detailed letter describing all this over a year 
>> ago and sent it to FEMA. Created a YGE issue. 
>> 
>> One of them had her house flooded and they had to move out. It was one of 
>> the first “Flip This House” properties due to having been flooded. They 
>> bought it after the rehab. Turns out federal law prevents disclosure of 
>> previous flood claims so a buyer has no way to know. They had to abandon the 
>> house and it is now in foreclosure but in abeyance apparently due to a 
>> federal criminal investigation. 
>> 
>> There are several other houses in the same neighborhood that have also 
>> flooded multiple times but the owners have no idea though they are now 
>> living in moldy houses and children are getting sick. Class action?
>> 
>> Turns out they were built below base flood elevation back in the 80s and the 
>> City fraudulently signed off on the elevation certificates, and this was 
>> never remedied nor disclosed to buyers or to FEMA even after multiple 
>> insurance claims. Ruhroh. That would be called “federal fraud.“
>> 
>> My friend has a loong paper trail (30+years) she has shared with the 
>> appropriate agencies. She pinged them Friday to find out what is going on 
>> and got slow-rolled but she was told “other agencies“ are now involved. 
>> Ruhroh. She has been in touch with IG criminal investigators who have been 
>> asking some very pointed and detailed questions. Ruhroh. 
>> 
>> FEMA released the new nationwide ratings May 1 and some jurisdictions got 
>> dropped, including Tulsa maybe? Due to significant issues. Amazingly enough, 
>> Charleston has not yet received anything. This seems to indicate some 
>> significant unresolved issues. 
>> 
>> The City has been slow-rolling some FOIA requests about stuff

Re: [MBZ] Even Martha

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

No loballers I no what I got

--FT
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> On May 26, 2019, at 8:08 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can't save this one. 
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html
> 
> Rick
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

> On May 26, 2019 at 8:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yea I need a generator. Power is fine but the water plant is shut down. 
> Whatever is in the water tower is all there is. We still have water for now 
> but I’m sure that will run out soon. 



https://www.ruralking.com/wen-5500-watt-gas-generator-56551

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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding — some FEMA fun

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

FEMA has always been a slow moving giant, like most Federal agencies.

I have a LOMA on file for my property, as my house is built on fill that the 
developer put in to raise the area above the flood plain that it would have 
otherwise been in.

Without getting too far into the weeds, if you go an look at the FEMA flood map 
for my property it shows that I’m in a flood plain. Base elevation was 
something like 24 feet before the development. But i”m really 37 feet above 
MSL, well above the flood plain.

FEMA does not update base maps. If you make a change to property that affects 
the elevation and it’s in a flood plain, you file a LOMA with your local 
government, who submits it to FEMA for approval. Approval comes back and the 
local government keeps the LOMA on file, so if anyone looks at the property 
relative to flood maps they’ll see an exception (LOMA) stating that it’s really 
37 feet above MSL, NOT 24 feet like the FEMA map shows.

So anyway, I’m curious as to the work that was done to put the fill in and I 
know that the developer would have been required to do all sorts of site 
surveys and core samples to assure the ground was stable both before and after 
the fill was done. I’ll never get it from the developer, as they have no 
obligation to give it to me, and that’s if I could find them. However, all of 
that information had to be submitted to FEMA for the approval of the LOMA, so 
they’ve got it.

I file an FOIA request with FEMA for anything and everything related to my 
property address. I get the obligatory confirmation letter stating they 
received my request, and a bunch of hooey about how long it’s going to take. 
Now if you’ve never filed a FOIA request with a Federal agency, you wouldn’t 
know that there is a statutory requirement for response time, which is 
something in the order of months.

A year goes by. Nada. I write them a letter requesting an update. Crickets.

18 months. Nothing.

I call my Congressman’s office and file a complaint. I get a mea culpa letter 
from FEMA about their HUGE backlog of requests, and that they expect mine will 
be filled within the next three months. We’re now at the 24 month milepost, I 
would add.

Approaching 30 months. I call my Congressman’s office again and raise heck. The 
intern/staffer I spoke to assured me they would follow up.

Two weeks later I get my stuff. Nearly 100 pages of engineering reports, core 
sample reports, surveys, etc., etc. A gold mine of information.

I am now satisfied that the ground beneath my home is quite stable.

-D


> On May 26, 2019, at 6:45 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have a situation here in Charleston regarding FEMA and NFIP and what 
> appears very strongly to be past and ongoing (federal) fraud by the 
> Mayor/City going back a number of years involving many many $millions. 3 
> friends of mine wrote a very detailed letter describing all this over a year 
> ago and sent it to FEMA. Created a YGE issue. 
> 
> One of them had her house flooded and they had to move out. It was one of the 
> first “Flip This House” properties due to having been flooded. They bought it 
> after the rehab. Turns out federal law prevents disclosure of previous flood 
> claims so a buyer has no way to know. They had to abandon the house and it is 
> now in foreclosure but in abeyance apparently due to a federal criminal 
> investigation. 
> 
> There are several other houses in the same neighborhood that have also 
> flooded multiple times but the owners have no idea though they are now living 
> in moldy houses and children are getting sick. Class action?
> 
> Turns out they were built below base flood elevation back in the 80s and the 
> City fraudulently signed off on the elevation certificates, and this was 
> never remedied nor disclosed to buyers or to FEMA even after multiple 
> insurance claims. Ruhroh. That would be called “federal fraud.“
> 
> My friend has a loong paper trail (30+years) she has shared with the 
> appropriate agencies. She pinged them Friday to find out what is going on and 
> got slow-rolled but she was told “other agencies“ are now involved. Ruhroh. 
> She has been in touch with IG criminal investigators who have been asking 
> some very pointed and detailed questions. Ruhroh. 
> 
> FEMA released the new nationwide ratings May 1 and some jurisdictions got 
> dropped, including Tulsa maybe? Due to significant issues. Amazingly enough, 
> Charleston has not yet received anything. This seems to indicate some 
> significant unresolved issues. 
> 
> The City has been slow-rolling some FOIA requests about stuff and denying 
> others for bullsh*t reasons. The Mayor hides when we are around. She has 
> confronted him several times and he is really really uncomfortable about it 
> all. Turns out he has also been hiding this stuff from City Council. I 
> casually mentioned something about a FEMA letter in a meeting where one of 
> the City Council members was, and she went ballis

Re: [MBZ] Even Martha

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

MB Classic Center / Stuttgart has issued an APB for the immediate arrest of
Waleid Wishahi, and instructions for ending the suffering of the abused
automobile by crushing and entombing in cement.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Can't save this one.
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html
>
> Rick
>
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[MBZ] Even Martha

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Can't save this one. 

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-rare-88-mercedes-300ce/6876853300.html

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding — some FEMA fun

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

We have a situation here in Charleston regarding FEMA and NFIP and what appears 
very strongly to be past and ongoing (federal) fraud by the Mayor/City going 
back a number of years involving many many $millions. 3 friends of mine wrote a 
very detailed letter describing all this over a year ago and sent it to FEMA. 
Created a YGE issue. 

One of them had her house flooded and they had to move out. It was one of the 
first “Flip This House” properties due to having been flooded. They bought it 
after the rehab. Turns out federal law prevents disclosure of previous flood 
claims so a buyer has no way to know. They had to abandon the house and it is 
now in foreclosure but in abeyance apparently due to a federal criminal 
investigation. 

There are several other houses in the same neighborhood that have also flooded 
multiple times but the owners have no idea though they are now living in moldy 
houses and children are getting sick. Class action?

Turns out they were built below base flood elevation back in the 80s and the 
City fraudulently signed off on the elevation certificates, and this was never 
remedied nor disclosed to buyers or to FEMA even after multiple insurance 
claims. Ruhroh. That would be called “federal fraud.“

My friend has a loong paper trail (30+years) she has shared with the 
appropriate agencies. She pinged them Friday to find out what is going on and 
got slow-rolled but she was told “other agencies“ are now involved. Ruhroh. She 
has been in touch with IG criminal investigators who have been asking some very 
pointed and detailed questions. Ruhroh. 

FEMA released the new nationwide ratings May 1 and some jurisdictions got 
dropped, including Tulsa maybe? Due to significant issues. Amazingly enough, 
Charleston has not yet received anything. This seems to indicate some 
significant unresolved issues. 

The City has been slow-rolling some FOIA requests about stuff and denying 
others for bullsh*t reasons. The Mayor hides when we are around. She has 
confronted him several times and he is really really uncomfortable about it 
all. Turns out he has also been hiding this stuff from City Council. I casually 
mentioned something about a FEMA letter in a meeting where one of the City 
Council members was, and she went ballistic. Turns out she knew nothing about 
this (a very serious matter) and was all over me, how do you know this, etc. I 
was like, well I’ve got the letters and read them, haven’t you?  I mean these 
are public documents and I have them...  She about had a cow. 3 days later she 
sends around this missive about what she found out, disclosing some very 
damaging information (she was clueless) that had been withheld from FEMA we had 
been trying to get...   ruhroh again...

The fun never ends around here. We aren’t sure what the time frame is here but 
hurricane season starts soon, and if the City gets dropped from NFIP that could 
mean $billions in potential exposure. Not to mention criminal 
indictments...h. 

Oh, and we sicced our congresscritter on the issue and he has been getting the 
slow-roll from these agencies too, which strongly indicates something wicked is 
brewing...

--FT (who lives in a VE flood zone and has FEMA flood insurance)

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> On May 26, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have FEMA sponsored flood insurance even though I barely skirt an AE flood 
> zone. We’ve carried it on every property we’ve owned since a buddy who is an 
> insurance agent explained it to us years ago:
> 
> Falling water/rain - homeowner’s insurance
> 
> Rising water - flood insurance
> 
> It’s cheap when you’re at the top of the chain - I think our policy is less 
> than $400/year.
> 
> All this being said, I think the flood insurance program is stupid, 
> especially when it pays to rebuild properties that have a history of being 
> flooded. I’ve always felt that after one or two claims it’s time to either 
> make the premiums where they cover the expected losses or stop writing 
> policies.
> 
> I’ve got a coworker who’s spouse’s family lives in the Mississippi delta in 
> LA. Their home floods on a regular basis, almost annually. Why anyone would 
> go through this is a whole ’nother discussion, but they’ve been paid out for 
> flood repairs and reconstruction easily 5-6 times over the last ten years. 
> Why wouldn’t we just say enough is enough and give them a settlement to move 
> to another location that’s not flood prone?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> A ripped copy of The Water's Edge ~536mb is available if anyone is 
>> interested.
>> Explanation of Flood Insurance fiasco and examines the 1998 New
>> Braunfels, TX re-flood weeks before Katrina.
>> Someone might might find a link?
>> Here is the description found at:
>> https://www.worldcat.org/title/waters-edge-profits-and-policy-behind-the-rising-catastrophe-of-floods/oclc/77132881
>> A new documentary that tak

Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 26 May 2019 14:28:09 -0500 Mountain Man via Mercedes
 wrote:

> -D wrote:
> > ...they were doing a live feed from Nowata.
> 
> Take that city name apart and that is what you need - no wata, no water
> tin

And there is a city in Oklahoma off of I-40 named Lottawata.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

For a while during the Clinton Administration (I think, could be wrong, might 
have been Bush II) FEMA required relocation, would not restore property flooded 
in a designated flood plain.  Only alternative was structure elevation to 10 ft 
above 100 year flood level.

At least one relative of a co-worker relocated for this reason, family farm is 
in the Ohio River floodplain in extreme SW Indiana, floods ever few years.

There is absolutely no reason whatsoever to rebuild in any area subjected to 
catastrophic flooding, ever.   It will only flood again, and all the damage 
will be done again.

In Ontario, Canada the law was changed after the 1954 hurricane that caused 
terrible flooding through Toronto.  No permanent structures in a designated 
flood plain, not even a garden shed.  No exceptions, no fill, nothing.  The 
result, quite predictably, is that no structures get flooded out, ever.  Far 
better policy that bleeding the populace dry to benefit real estate pirates.

Predictably, FEMA changed the rules back to rebuilding.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's the video series that I found / watched and learned that I needed
more parts...
-
Max
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On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 5:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> Century Bob says "you can do it".
>
> https://youtu.be/sh-KIjAqh-A
>
> https://youtu.be/CD5lLC5v6PE
>
> https://youtu.be/MangGmPZc6g
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Century Bob says "you can do it".

https://youtu.be/sh-KIjAqh-A

https://youtu.be/CD5lLC5v6PE

https://youtu.be/MangGmPZc6g




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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

OK you've talked me into it!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 4:35 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It’s really simple. Probably took me 30 minutes to do, so based on your
> description, an hour. The guy I got it from had a couple of videos on how
> to do it, too.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On May 26, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm leaning toward that, but I'm not sure I want to devote the time.
> Keep
> > in mind that what takes you an hour probably takes me double or more.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I got a complete re-seal kit off eBay with shaft seal, case O ring(s)
> and
> >> stuff for like $20 a year or two ago. It was a real piece of cake to do.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 26, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Yesterday I finally got serious about replacing the shaft seal on the
> >>> compressor in my '95 E300.  Got the clutch off, and expected to see a
> >>> cir-clip underneath that was holding the seal in place, but it wasn't
> >>> there!
> >>>
> >>> Back inside for some You.tube education, and this Denso 10PA15C
> >> compressor
> >>> needs the front cover to come off and the seal is replaced from the
> >> inside.
> >>>
> >>> So I've invested $12 in a seal, but I'd still need another seal kit for
> >> the
> >>> compressor case and manifold, and I managed to bugger up the bearing
> seal
> >>> on the pulley wheel, so I need a new bearing as well.  About $50 in
> parts
> >>> needed, this doesn't include any of the internal wear parts.
> >>>
> >>> Resealing the entire compressor will probably take a few hours, or I
> >> could
> >>> just get a new compressor, $250 or $300 I think.  What to do?
> >>> -
> >>> Max
> >>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s really simple. Probably took me 30 minutes to do, so based on your 
description, an hour. The guy I got it from had a couple of videos on how to do 
it, too.

-D



> On May 26, 2019, at 3:50 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I'm leaning toward that, but I'm not sure I want to devote the time.  Keep
> in mind that what takes you an hour probably takes me double or more.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I got a complete re-seal kit off eBay with shaft seal, case O ring(s) and
>> stuff for like $20 a year or two ago. It was a real piece of cake to do.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I finally got serious about replacing the shaft seal on the
>>> compressor in my '95 E300.  Got the clutch off, and expected to see a
>>> cir-clip underneath that was holding the seal in place, but it wasn't
>>> there!
>>> 
>>> Back inside for some You.tube education, and this Denso 10PA15C
>> compressor
>>> needs the front cover to come off and the seal is replaced from the
>> inside.
>>> 
>>> So I've invested $12 in a seal, but I'd still need another seal kit for
>> the
>>> compressor case and manifold, and I managed to bugger up the bearing seal
>>> on the pulley wheel, so I need a new bearing as well.  About $50 in parts
>>> needed, this doesn't include any of the internal wear parts.
>>> 
>>> Resealing the entire compressor will probably take a few hours, or I
>> could
>>> just get a new compressor, $250 or $300 I think.  What to do?
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I have FEMA sponsored flood insurance even though I barely skirt an AE flood 
zone. We’ve carried it on every property we’ve owned since a buddy who is an 
insurance agent explained it to us years ago:

Falling water/rain - homeowner’s insurance

Rising water - flood insurance

It’s cheap when you’re at the top of the chain - I think our policy is less 
than $400/year.

All this being said, I think the flood insurance program is stupid, especially 
when it pays to rebuild properties that have a history of being flooded. I’ve 
always felt that after one or two claims it’s time to either make the premiums 
where they cover the expected losses or stop writing policies.

I’ve got a coworker who’s spouse’s family lives in the Mississippi delta in LA. 
Their home floods on a regular basis, almost annually. Why anyone would go 
through this is a whole ’nother discussion, but they’ve been paid out for flood 
repairs and reconstruction easily 5-6 times over the last ten years. Why 
wouldn’t we just say enough is enough and give them a settlement to move to 
another location that’s not flood prone?

-D

   
> On May 26, 2019, at 4:01 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A ripped copy of The Water's Edge ~536mb is available if anyone is interested.
> Explanation of Flood Insurance fiasco and examines the 1998 New
> Braunfels, TX re-flood weeks before Katrina.
> Someone might might find a link?
> Here is the description found at:
> https://www.worldcat.org/title/waters-edge-profits-and-policy-behind-the-rising-catastrophe-of-floods/oclc/77132881
> A new documentary that takes a critical look at the systemic failures
> behind the growing catastrophe of floods in this country. Through an
> amazing collection of flood footage and in-depth coverage of
> repetitive flood victims, this movie uncovers the profiteering and
> neglect that ensure increasing devastation for our ever-urbanizing
> society. The precious land at the water' edge, so vital for wildlife
> corridors and open space, is being turned into a federally-subsidized
> disaster zone that brings great fortune to bankers and builders and
> the perpetual debt of the underclass.
> 
> Also:
> www.revealnews.org/episodes/flood-thy-neighbor-levee-update-show/
> tin
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Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> That would be Peter, who has a doctorate in botany, I believe.

Yes, but also some other science guy is here?  ...what is his sigline?...
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

A ripped copy of The Water's Edge ~536mb is available if anyone is interested.
Explanation of Flood Insurance fiasco and examines the 1998 New
Braunfels, TX re-flood weeks before Katrina.
Someone might might find a link?
Here is the description found at:
https://www.worldcat.org/title/waters-edge-profits-and-policy-behind-the-rising-catastrophe-of-floods/oclc/77132881
A new documentary that takes a critical look at the systemic failures
behind the growing catastrophe of floods in this country. Through an
amazing collection of flood footage and in-depth coverage of
repetitive flood victims, this movie uncovers the profiteering and
neglect that ensure increasing devastation for our ever-urbanizing
society. The precious land at the water' edge, so vital for wildlife
corridors and open space, is being turned into a federally-subsidized
disaster zone that brings great fortune to bankers and builders and
the perpetual debt of the underclass.

Also:
www.revealnews.org/episodes/flood-thy-neighbor-levee-update-show/
tin

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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm leaning toward that, but I'm not sure I want to devote the time.  Keep
in mind that what takes you an hour probably takes me double or more.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 3:26 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I got a complete re-seal kit off eBay with shaft seal, case O ring(s) and
> stuff for like $20 a year or two ago. It was a real piece of cake to do.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On May 26, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yesterday I finally got serious about replacing the shaft seal on the
> > compressor in my '95 E300.  Got the clutch off, and expected to see a
> > cir-clip underneath that was holding the seal in place, but it wasn't
> > there!
> >
> > Back inside for some You.tube education, and this Denso 10PA15C
> compressor
> > needs the front cover to come off and the seal is replaced from the
> inside.
> >
> > So I've invested $12 in a seal, but I'd still need another seal kit for
> the
> > compressor case and manifold, and I managed to bugger up the bearing seal
> > on the pulley wheel, so I need a new bearing as well.  About $50 in parts
> > needed, this doesn't include any of the internal wear parts.
> >
> > Resealing the entire compressor will probably take a few hours, or I
> could
> > just get a new compressor, $250 or $300 I think.  What to do?
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

-D wrote:
> ...they were doing a live feed from Nowata.

Take that city name apart and that is what you need - no wata, no water
tin

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Re: [MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I got a complete re-seal kit off eBay with shaft seal, case O ring(s) and stuff 
for like $20 a year or two ago. It was a real piece of cake to do.

-D

 
> On May 26, 2019, at 3:23 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yesterday I finally got serious about replacing the shaft seal on the
> compressor in my '95 E300.  Got the clutch off, and expected to see a
> cir-clip underneath that was holding the seal in place, but it wasn't
> there!
> 
> Back inside for some You.tube education, and this Denso 10PA15C compressor
> needs the front cover to come off and the seal is replaced from the inside.
> 
> So I've invested $12 in a seal, but I'd still need another seal kit for the
> compressor case and manifold, and I managed to bugger up the bearing seal
> on the pulley wheel, so I need a new bearing as well.  About $50 in parts
> needed, this doesn't include any of the internal wear parts.
> 
> Resealing the entire compressor will probably take a few hours, or I could
> just get a new compressor, $250 or $300 I think.  What to do?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That would be Peter, who has a doctorate in botany, I believe.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

Craig is not the only science guy at OkieBenz.
That fact occurred to me after "Send" was executed.
Which OkieBenz member is in FL or IN and is university professor?
tin

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[MBZ] What to do? "Rebuild" AC compressor or replace with new?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Yesterday I finally got serious about replacing the shaft seal on the
compressor in my '95 E300.  Got the clutch off, and expected to see a
cir-clip underneath that was holding the seal in place, but it wasn't
there!

Back inside for some You.tube education, and this Denso 10PA15C compressor
needs the front cover to come off and the seal is replaced from the inside.

So I've invested $12 in a seal, but I'd still need another seal kit for the
compressor case and manifold, and I managed to bugger up the bearing seal
on the pulley wheel, so I need a new bearing as well.  About $50 in parts
needed, this doesn't include any of the internal wear parts.

Resealing the entire compressor will probably take a few hours, or I could
just get a new compressor, $250 or $300 I think.  What to do?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Craig is not the only science guy at OkieBenz.
That fact occurred to me after "Send" was executed.
Which OkieBenz member is in FL or IN and is university professor?
tin

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Re: [MBZ] Grand Solar Minimum [was: Re: Chebby brakes]

[Mountain Man via Mercedes]

Rick wrote:
> ...an increase in the ice caps...

Go ahead, look up flat earth?  It doesn't seem that flat earth (fake)
will accept ice caps?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wieFluwUjs
tin - what do I know?

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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Living here where I am and watching the tides go in and out twice a day 
every day, then the occasional huge rain or hurricane storm surge, I get 
a sense of the flow of water.  It is usually quick to rise in a storm 
but then takes quite a while to drain down.  All depends on the terrain 
and water levels, and rainfall and other factors too I guess.


--FT

On 5/26/19 2:01 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Yea I guess so. What I also observed is on our road which flooded first the 
water is down a little below where it originally was Thursday. But the next 
road over which flooded after our road (it was still passable when ours was 
not) had new areas of flooding and you could not get as far down it as before. 
It is just interesting how flooding happens.

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On May 26, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Takes time for the water to drain down

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On May 26, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I  can look at this website which show the river level by me and it shows to be 
dropping.  With more rain it will go back up of course.  I have never dealt 
with rivers, flooding and such so I am trying to wrap my head around something. 
 Looking at the data here, the river is currently at 34.15 feet.  On Wednesday 
our road was dry and the graph shows the river was at well over the 35ft mark.  
My logic is that since the river appears to be at a lower level now that when 
the flooding here started, I would think the water on the road would be down, 
but it is not so.  So how does that work? Yes, I am stuck at home bored with 
nothing better to do than think about all this stuff.

https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?site_no=07171000


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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I guess so. What I also observed is on our road which flooded first the 
water is down a little below where it originally was Thursday. But the next 
road over which flooded after our road (it was still passable when ours was 
not) had new areas of flooding and you could not get as far down it as before. 
It is just interesting how flooding happens. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 26, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Takes time for the water to drain down
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 1:38 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I  can look at this website which show the river level by me and it shows to 
>> be dropping.  With more rain it will go back up of course.  I have never 
>> dealt with rivers, flooding and such so I am trying to wrap my head around 
>> something.  Looking at the data here, the river is currently at 34.15 feet.  
>> On Wednesday our road was dry and the graph shows the river was at well over 
>> the 35ft mark.  My logic is that since the river appears to be at a lower 
>> level now that when the flooding here started, I would think the water on 
>> the road would be down, but it is not so.  So how does that work? Yes, I am 
>> stuck at home bored with nothing better to do than think about all this 
>> stuff.
>> 
>> https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?site_no=07171000
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

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Takes time for the water to drain down

--FT
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> 
> I  can look at this website which show the river level by me and it shows to 
> be dropping.  With more rain it will go back up of course.  I have never 
> dealt with rivers, flooding and such so I am trying to wrap my head around 
> something.  Looking at the data here, the river is currently at 34.15 feet.  
> On Wednesday our road was dry and the graph shows the river was at well over 
> the 35ft mark.  My logic is that since the river appears to be at a lower 
> level now that when the flooding here started, I would think the water on the 
> road would be down, but it is not so.  So how does that work? Yes, I am stuck 
> at home bored with nothing better to do than think about all this stuff.
> 
> https://waterdata.usgs.gov/nwis/uv?site_no=07171000
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[MBZ] Understanding rivers and flooding

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I  can look at this website which show the river level by me and it 
shows to be dropping.  With more rain it will go back up of course.  I 
have never dealt with rivers, flooding and such so I am trying to wrap 
my head around something.  Looking at the data here, the river is 
currently at 34.15 feet.  On Wednesday our road was dry and the graph 
shows the river was at well over the 35ft mark.  My logic is that since 
the river appears to be at a lower level now that when the flooding here 
started, I would think the water on the road would be down, but it is 
not so.  So how does that work? Yes, I am stuck at home bored with 
nothing better to do than think about all this stuff.


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[MBZ] This is sooooo tempting... 1997 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 420 Sedan 4D,Myrtle Beach, SC ·$700

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

But it's 2 hour drive up there

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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

4 feet high and rising 

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> On May 26, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
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> How high’s the water, Mama?
> 
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>> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway.
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

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How high’s the water, Mama?

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> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway.

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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

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If you have buckets to scoop it up with, it sounds like you have plenty of 
water to flush the toilets with.

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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

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We got 1.7" of rain last night, so it's probably flowing your way now ...
The tornado was 20 miles west and 20 miles south of us.

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 8:50 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Water plant is back up again so we will be good unless water rises again.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 26, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> >
> > Yea I need a generator. Power is fine but the water plant is shut down.
> Whatever is in the water tower is all there is. We still have water for now
> but I’m sure that will run out soon.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 26, 2019, at 7:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You made the national news!
> >>
> >> Was walking through the family room this morning while wife was
> watching national news and they were doing a live feed from Nowata. Talking
> about the utilities going down and the flooding.
> >>
> >> Dude, you need a generator.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway.
> It is basically now fast moving river to our west that covers our road as
> well as the next road to the south.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On May 25, 2019, at 11:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
>  could use it!
> 
>  Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps
> shows
>  a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
>  home.
> 
> 
>  Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Water plant is back up again so we will be good unless water rises again. 

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> On May 26, 2019, at 7:54 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Yea I need a generator. Power is fine but the water plant is shut down. 
> Whatever is in the water tower is all there is. We still have water for now 
> but I’m sure that will run out soon. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 7:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You made the national news!
>> 
>> Was walking through the family room this morning while wife was watching 
>> national news and they were doing a live feed from Nowata. Talking about the 
>> utilities going down and the flooding.
>> 
>> Dude, you need a generator.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway. It is 
>>> basically now fast moving river to our west that covers our road as well as 
>>> the next road to the south. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On May 25, 2019, at 11:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
 wrote:
 
 You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
 could use it!
 
 Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps shows
 a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
 home.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Anyone Going to the PnP?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Better than that…

I came up with a kludge. Crude, but effective…

A 10/32 tee nut with the ‘spikes” ground off of it and a black plastic screw 
cover/cap.

I had to grind the threaded part of the tee nut down a bit as it was too long 
out of the box, but once that was done it fit fine.

Cost me under a buck at the Ace Hardware from their “majik drawers”.

I’m still looking for the official part, however.

-D

> On May 25, 2019, at 7:00 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Isn't someone here doing 3D printing? Sounds like a perfect candidate. Get
> the specs from the one on the other side ...
> Otherwise, find someone to machine one for you from the material of your
> choice ...
> 
> On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 2:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I’m looking for a part for the ML and not having a lot of luck…
>> 
>> On the 99-2005 ML models there are “wing” windows in the rear quarters
>> that can be opened. There’s a little linear actuator that moves the
>> trailing edge of the window in and out as required. The actuator is
>> connected to the window through the use of a threaded rod and a “cap” or
>> mushroom-shaped sort of piece that goes through a hole in the glass and
>> threads onto a threaded rod on the actuator.
>> 
>> I need one of these “mushroom” pieces, as one of mine is missing. This
>> means my window can more or less flap around as it’s not secured to
>> anything. Mercedes does not sell the piece separately, you have to buy a
>> kit that consists of all the hardware that goes from the linear actuator to
>> the window glass, which will set you back about $75.
>> 
>> So if anyone is going to the knackers in the new future and sees an ML of
>> this vintage, could you see if you could snag one of these for me?
>> 
>> Thanks in advance!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea I need a generator. Power is fine but the water plant is shut down. 
Whatever is in the water tower is all there is. We still have water for now but 
I’m sure that will run out soon. 

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> On May 26, 2019, at 7:47 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You made the national news!
> 
> Was walking through the family room this morning while wife was watching 
> national news and they were doing a live feed from Nowata. Talking about the 
> utilities going down and the flooding.
> 
> Dude, you need a generator.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway. It is 
>> basically now fast moving river to our west that covers our road as well as 
>> the next road to the south. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On May 25, 2019, at 11:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
>>> could use it!
>>> 
>>> Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps shows
>>> a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
>>> home.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You made the national news!

Was walking through the family room this morning while wife was watching 
national news and they were doing a live feed from Nowata. Talking about the 
utilities going down and the flooding.

Dude, you need a generator.

-D


> On May 26, 2019, at 8:41 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway. It is 
> basically now fast moving river to our west that covers our road as well as 
> the next road to the south. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 25, 2019, at 11:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
>> could use it!
>> 
>> Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps shows
>> a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
>> home.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There is a small creek to the west of up between us and the highway. It is 
basically now fast moving river to our west that covers our road as well as the 
next road to the south. 

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> On May 25, 2019, at 11:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
> could use it!
> 
> Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps shows
> a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
> home.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] More Okie Acres rain!

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Kaleb is just north of a major lake and surrounded by it’s tributaries. And 
since the Okie server rarely lets me post images, you can see the attached 
image here if it doesn’t show up in the email:

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> On May 26, 2019, at 12:54 AM, Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You are getting a LOT of rain! Wow. Please send some of it our way; we
> could use it!
> 
> Kaleb, where in relation to your house is it flooding? Google Maps shows
> a river to your east, but it isn't obvious how that would trap you at
> home.
> 
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