Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Well said. The good news is Uncle Sam has a pipeline to develop pilots with skill, experience, and intuition. Other countries, not so much. > -Original Message- > From: Curley McLain via Mercedes > > And therein is the problem with software trying to run airplanes.I prefer > a >

Re: [MBZ] Lifter Noise

2019-08-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Might be 10W-30. Not exactly sure cause I was using up two jugs I had sitting around. I reckon I’ll change the oil this weekend and pay attention. I suppose I should be more clear...ambient temps are 115F, engine temps are 95C to 105C. Maybe go old school Delo 15w-40... Bob R Sent from my

Re: [MBZ] Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
15W-50 M1 is still like cold honey at -20.   the engine will start easier at -20 or below with a high zinc 10-40 M1 that is NLA.   For Dwight's situation if he insists on M1, then 15w-50 is the only way to go. Delo or Delvac with an annual oil change would be best for his situation.  10-40 in

Re: [MBZ] OT: More Apple annoyance

2019-08-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
Account 'recovery' is deliberately slow and cumbersome, to impede account theft. I'm still using my wife's cast-off iPhone 4S, running iOS 7. That 4S, unlike anything newer, can have its battery replaced DIY, for next to nothing. And, next to _every_ other smart phone made since, is _tiny_.

Re: [MBZ] Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
5w-40 is too light and does not have enough zinc for that engine. Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote on 8/5/19 8:29 PM: Thanks Mitch. You are right about viscosity now vs. 40. years,ago. Actually probably either 5w40 or 15w50 would work for how little i drive this car. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford

Re: [MBZ] Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
15w-50 is the only M1 that should be in a OM61x or OM601/2/3.   Except in extreme cold.  (under -10ºF) you can use a 10w 30 or 10W40.   All the others have too low zinc, and You would be better of running Delo or Delvac dino oil with a more frequent change. Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on

Re: [MBZ] Lifter Noise

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You didn't say WHAT M1. You probably need a heavier weight.   Are you running 15w-50?  Anything less , and your lifters will rattle at those temps.   I think this year (or quarter, as the case may be) the 15W-50 is in the truck oil label. You maybe better off to start using amsoil or

Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Peter sez: "up or out", "internal competition", and similar backstabbing systems replace actual teamwork, and wooden heads abound, driving all the smart and capable young bright people off. YEP! For instance, the genius at the time in charge of IH decides to have some "football" in the

[MBZ] Lifter Noise

2019-08-07 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
My OM603 is making ridiculous lifter noise, at idle, after it reaches 95 to 105 degrees. I’m on my third oil change since I bought it. M1 is in it now. This noise is borderline embarrassing at a stop light. It didn’t start this until after the M1 was in it for about 200 miles or so. What’s the

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Yes, I have ifone 4. Works fine.  Camera is better than the Nikon I bought a couple years ago.  THe Nikon was a huge disappointment.  Every picture was dark, like the old HP camera I had years ago.  I do not want to sit and edit thousands of pictures to make them usable.   Now I just carry the

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
You don't have to use icloud.  In theory, it is great.  As implemented, there are serious problems, no user manual and so, it sucks.   Just turn it off and use another online backup. for the Mac(s) My iphone refuses to backup on the MBP, it says some gobbledygook name file is missing. 

Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sadly the Asian culture, while it has it's own quirks, hasn't taken to the US style management structures. It would greatly reduce the competition if they did, as Toyota would be making the same poorly designed and built cars that GM does. Not that junky cars are a good outcome A few

Re: [MBZ] M1 = Castrol "Syntec" = junk WUZ: Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Did you see the MSDS I posted a few days ago? M1 EP 0W20 and AP 0W20 are 2/3-3/4 Group 4. Plain M1 0w20 is not, but it has more G-IV in it than 5W30 does. 5W20 can be successfully made of cheaper stuff than 0W20, you can even buy 5W20 dino and synthetic blend, but AFAIK all 0W20 is still 'fully

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread ROGER HALE via Mercedes
Hey guys, well, I have an iphone 5SE. I purchased it a couple of years ago on eBay. The seller is a company in Florida that refurbs and sells iphones. I got it for under $100. I have it tethered to my ipad 4, setup for WIFI calling when I'm home, Bluetooth connection to a keyboard, etc. I

Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Amen!  Hear Here!~ It was said a couple decades ago that the way to bring down the chicoms was to export American MBAs to the chinee.   It was a grand idea, but unfortunately, never implemented. Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 8/6/19 5:09 PM: For some reason modern American Management

Re: [MBZ] M1 = Castrol "Syntec" = junk WUZ: Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Thanks Curley, It has been run on MI for last 20k miles. Any issue with switching to dino? On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 9:59 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The last 2 runs, (oil changes) I had M1 5w-20 in the van, as > recommended. Apparently now the M1 is the same

Re: [MBZ] Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The wounds to M1 are self inflicted by Mobil, trying to sell cheap crap based on the formerly stellar reputation of M1. Herr Doktor is turning in his grave to see what crap M1 has become. OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 8/5/19 6:49 PM: Sheesh - Marshal is turning over in his grave ...

Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
And therein is the problem with software trying to run airplanes.    I prefer a real, experienced pilot to get to the destination intact rather than becoming human sausage packed in a tube. Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 8/5/19 6:04 PM: Fast processors and giant look-up tables do not

[MBZ] M1 = Castrol "Syntec" = junk WUZ: Triggering an Oil Thread [was: Re: W123 FB Idiot]

2019-08-07 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
The last 2 runs, (oil changes) I had M1 5w-20 in the van, as recommended.   Apparently now the M1 is the same as the castrol syntec crap.   I never used to add any oil in the van between changes, but now with the year ago (roughly) M1 reformulations, it is as crappy as the Castrol Syntec.   It

[MBZ] OT: More Apple annoyance

2019-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Got a response from Apple today about recovering my account. They'll consider it on August 20. Great service that... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think there are MacBook Airs in that price range. I have a 13” 2013 MBA that I really like, which has 8GB of RAM and a 100GB SSD. I think I paid $400 for it used. I wouldn’t buy anything newer than 2015 myself. -D > On Aug 7, 2019, at 4:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Does

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
So long as we are on the subject of iPhones, let me ask a question of you knowledgeable folks. I cannot get my iPhone to cooperate with the hands free system in my 2013 F150. It uses the earlier version of Sync so that may be an issue but I cannot help but wonder if I just have some setting

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Does Apple even make a $1200 laptop anymore? The 2010 Macbook Pro I got for Angie is surprisingly good for a 9 year old machine. It takes a long time to boot though, I'm thinking an SSD is in its future. OWC has a 250GB for $44. Actually now that I think of it I think I have a 120GB, I wonder

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
5SE? I have an SE, which is a 6S brain inside a 5S housing with I think a 6 camera in it. Is that what you have? I bought a couple in March for under $210 with tax, but that source dried up and I have no idea where to buy a $100 iPhone now. A retired friend was selling his house and going

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That's exactly what I don't like. Twice I've had to install iTunes on my Windows laptops, and it was like purposely installing a virus. The latest problem is that the optical drive checks for a disc everytime the machine is started or logged into. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On August 7,

Re: [MBZ] On the trail of the E300D's electrical drain ...

2019-08-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Tue, 6 Aug 2019 21:19:18 -0700 G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > Yes, Disconnect the relay and watch what stops working. Then wring that > item out for short or rubs or electrical leak. On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 06:51:18 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: > I expect it to be the alarm and the

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I still paid less for my new MotoG7, I got a bigger screen, more RAM, more internal storage and a battery that amazes me. If I don't use it a whole lot for anything other than audio playback it'll go 3 days. With a lot of use its more like 2. I got mine on Amazon and used it as a BYOD on

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
I have three brand new iPhone 5SEs that were purchased through the Apple refurb store for $250.00/each. They were dumping these off and on for the last year, so I snagged a bunch at one time. They’re all in use as BYOD devices on my Verizon account. None have failed or acted up. I’ve never had

Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity

2019-08-07 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > Randy highjacked my thread. > > Any comments on the original article? The original article needs to be more broad? We cannot continue to think energy will never have affects all around. How about rejection of energy, distribution systems, devices as much as possible. An

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I agree on the voice recognition although Siri has gotten much better recently. I had an iPhone 5 about 6 years ago that didn't understand a word that I said. I play with Siri on my laptop occasionally and it seems to understand me okay. Google is kind of spooky for understanding even very

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I'm on my 3rd Motorola/Lenovo phone. I've been happy with them all and can't imagine why I'd spend 3x more for an iPhone. Other than the latest each one suffered a hardware failure around the 3 year mark. Actually the last one (MotoX 3) survived being thrown across the street onto pavement

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Absurd price so far. Won't come close to the reserve. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 1:35 PM Craig via Mercedes wrote: > On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 10:38:04 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > There’s an Adenauer sedan that’s ending tomorrow, and as of last night > > it was only at $8700 or thereabouts.

[MBZ] Diesel Volkswagen Van

2019-08-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1992-volkswagen-eurovan-t4-transporter-california-westfalia/ Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
How do you do that, do you have to open an Apple account and install iTunes malware? Mitch. > On August 7, 2019 at 1:30 PM Dan--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > > The issues presented can be easily avoided if you forego iCloud and manage > the device yourself, which is an option. After .mac went

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 7 Aug 2019 10:38:04 -0400 Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > There’s an Adenauer sedan that’s ending tomorrow, and as of last night > it was only at $8700 or thereabouts. I was kind of surprised it was so > low. It has some minor issues, I think, but amazing it’s so cheap right > now...

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
The issues presented can be easily avoided if you forego iCloud and manage the device yourself, which is an option. After .mac went away, I took over the management of my devices and their backups. There’s nothing in my iCloud account and never will be. My phone gets synced and backed up daily

Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> On August 6, 2019 at 9:39 PM fmiser via Mercedes > wrote: > Nice! That's sure a more durable option that cotton or nylon if > it's in the sun. > > I wanted more tension and have 2" pipe in concrete for the end > poles. So I have 1/8" GAC, PVC coated. > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I have one of each. The android voice recognition is superior, but the design IPhone is cooler. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:43 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The Apple hardware is fine, the philosophy is what I can't handle. Her > school requires Google classroom /

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Link please so I have the opportunity to do something I will regret. On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 12:26 PM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > It looked interesting, but if I was going to go back that far, I want a > 170. And it has the central lubrication system, too. > > -D > > > On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:52

Re: [MBZ] I wonder what the bio hazard is?

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Picture #9, is that blood on the left side of the console? What's funny is they say it's enhanced/detailed. Blood and flood/mold usually gets you a biohazard flag. Mitch. > On August 6, 2019 at 7:35 PM "Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > https://www.copart.com/lot/42596159 >

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
The Apple hardware is fine, the philosophy is what I can't handle. Her school requires Google classroom / cloud, so Android or Chrome OS work great. Making Apple play well with those and Windows is a challenge I don't need. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On August 7, 2019 12:36:44 PM EDT, Randy

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
On 07/08/2019 11:31 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Wow! My daughter is pressing to replace her current Android phone with an Apple product. I'll share this story as a prime example of why that is a bad idea. However, she is very stubborn (wonder which parent she inherited that from?)

Re: [MBZ] OT Boing 787 Investigation in SC

2019-08-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That was my first thought, leadership issue. People / employees can be screened and trained, takes leadership to make it happen. -- Max Dillon Charleston SC On August 6, 2019 3:47:16 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: >A friend is a team leader on a build section on the 787 line in

Re: [MBZ] OT: iCloud sucks

2019-08-07 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Wow! My daughter is pressing to replace her current Android phone with an Apple product. I'll share this story as a prime example of why that is a bad idea. However, she is very stubborn (wonder which parent she inherited that from?) so experience may be the best teacher. -- Max Dillon

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
It looked interesting, but if I was going to go back that far, I want a 170. And it has the central lubrication system, too. -D > On Aug 7, 2019, at 10:52 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > The 53 Adenauer looks really cool... a car you and I could do a lot with, > Dan. But I

Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery powered ocean ships

2019-08-07 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
It remains, the "holy grail" in EV is battery. To date, battery capacity and weight is the limit factor and all design engineering is wrapped around those hard limit issues. Until the battery / recharge issue is broken, EV is broken... or "broke back"... as the movie title says. ie, stuck mid

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The 53 Adenauer looks really cool... a car you and I could do a lot with, Dan. But I think they're undervalued. The later cars did have some significant improvements, so I'm sure thats a big factor. Jaime On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 10:38 AM Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: > There’s an Adenauer sedan

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
Thats a pretty amazing car... to take an engine as complex and uncommon as the M189 is and successfully modify it. I'd love to see a video of a full throttle acceleration. After all, thats the whole point of the modifications, right?! Jaime On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:23 AM Floyd Thursby via

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Dan--- via Mercedes
There’s an Adenauer sedan that’s ending tomorrow, and as of last night it was only at $8700 or thereabouts. I was kind of surprised it was so low. It has some minor issues, I think, but amazing it’s so cheap right now... -D > On Aug 7, 2019, at 9:45 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes >

Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity

2019-08-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Can you say "Maunder Minimum"? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 7, 2019 9:12 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity It looks like the idea is to

Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery powered ocean ships

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
My neighbor has a big Viking propane cooktop and a wall mount electric double oven. I agree with him that electric ovens are superior. With gas clothes dryers, I can't help but wonder if the acidic water produced in combustion interferes with the drying. Mitch. > On August 7, 2019 at 10:10 AM

Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
It looks like the idea is to export energy. Which sounds good, unless you're worried about the possibility of making an ice age worse. Mitch. > On August 7, 2019 at 9:53 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > > Randy highjacked my thread. > > Any comments on the original article?

Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery powered ocean ships

2019-08-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I heard this thing on NPR yesterday about how in California there is a move to ban gas appliances in houses because of the pollution or something.  The rationale is that a lot of California electricity comes from renewable sources.  I guess that makes sense, but I hate electric cooktops. 

Re: [MBZ] OT: WAS Cooling w/o electricity NOW drying clothes w/o electricity

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Randy highjacked my thread. Any comments on the original article? On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:41 PM fmiser via Mercedes wrote: > > Curt wrote: > > > We have a clothes line outdoors. I had trouble keeping line on > > it... > > > I finally upped my game: > >

Re: [MBZ] OT: Battery powered ocean ships

2019-08-07 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I wonder how they get recharged at sea... A tow-behind barge with a coal-fired plant on it? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Nice looking 560 but the aftermarket radio is a huge turn off for me

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What's so terrible about the radio? On Tue, Aug 6, 2019 at 9:06 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > That’s a heck of a deal. It’s got heated and power rear seats, too. > > -D > > > > On Aug 6, 2019, at 8:58 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com>

[MBZ] OT: Battery powered ocean ships

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I wonder how they get recharged at sea... TRANSPORTATIONBattery-powered ships next up in battle to tackle emissionsPublished: Wednesday, August 7, 2019 The electric battery boom has a new target: ships. Four Japanese companies have teamed up to build the world's first zero-emission tanker by

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
What - you don't already own one of these? On Wed, Aug 7, 2019 at 9:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1960-mercedes-benz-300d-cabriolet-d > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > >

Re: [MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
A supercharged Adenauer with a 700R4? > On August 7, 2019 at 9:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1960-mercedes-benz-300d-cabriolet-d ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] I'm pretty sure I need this

2019-08-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1960-mercedes-benz-300d-cabriolet-d -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Call Helen it's mom's car 1500 takes it

2019-08-07 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/588627038211244/ -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 124 fan

2019-08-07 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Oh God. You're going to try to kicked off of that group too? Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: August 7, 2019 7:05 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: ka...@striplin.net Subject: [MBZ] 124 fan On your 124, you can just completely eliminate the engine fan and

[MBZ] 124 fan

2019-08-07 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
On your 124, you can just completely eliminate the engine fan and just have the aux fan come on. It is more than enough to keep the engine cool. Sent from my iPhone ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To

Re: [MBZ] On the trail of the E300D's electrical drain ...

2019-08-07 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
I expect it to be the alarm and the anti-theft on the radio (which should be unplugged now anyway) Open and close a door while troubleshooting to make sure the interior light relay goes to very low current draw as well, it's known to fail and run the battery down fairly quickly.