Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> > > Mitch wrote:
> > >
> > > Does the work related stuff work with the "safe" derivation
> > > of Chrome, I think it's called Chromium or somesuch?

Chromium is the all open source port.  So it won't do Flash, and
there are a few other bits that won't fit under an open license.
It is what's available in most sensible Linux distributions.

> > And late Mitch wrote:
> >
> > Oops, it appears that Chromium phones home to our Goolag
> > Overlords too. Safari, anyone?

> Craig wrote:
> 
> No, it's called Iron,

>From what I can tell, Chrome or chromium can be set to be just as
leak-proof as Iron - without requiring another software porting
project.

https://www.technadu.com/how-to-optimize-google-chrome-for-maximum-privacy/19797/


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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!

2019-09-25 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Attaboy

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 8:32 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Discovered that the $600E320 does indeed have a drain plug in the torque
> converter which made it easy to drain out the old nasty fluid.  The
> fluid is black and nasty and smells bad, probably never been changed.
> Of course in finding it if I had turned it one way the plug would have
> been about an inch away, as it was I rotated it almost 360deg, of
> course... I read where they had the drain up until a certain build, this
> car was built mid 98 I guess (sold almost exactly 21 yr ago right now
> according to docs in the manual case).
>
> Dropped the valve body and pulled the solenoids and conductor plate,
> cleaned everything very well with break kleener, there was still fluid
> draining out of the valve body, I think most of it came out.  I'll try
> to get it back together tomorrow if I have time.  There a 10 or so
> screws holding it in, not a big deal. There is some plastic slider
> piston kind of thing in the valve body, I'll have to pay attention to
> what that grabs.  I'm wondering if that is supposed to have a spring on
> it?  There isn't one.  I'll have to check on that.  Looks like not, it
> hooks to something.
>
> I'm hoping that a new dose of fluid and the conductor plate and
> connector cures the issue.  And getting the fancy computer to talk to
> the tranny nanny.  Will know soon.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 20:32:06 -0400 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Discovered that the $600E320 does indeed have a drain plug in the
> torque converter which made it easy to drain out the old nasty fluid.

Congratulations!


> I'm hoping that a new dose of fluid and the conductor plate and 
> connector cures the issue.  And getting the fancy computer to talk to 
> the tranny nanny.  Will know soon.

I which you success in getting the fancy computer to talk to the tranny
nanny. Did the manufacturer of the device have anything to say about the
problems you were experiencing?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Yay me!

2019-09-25 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Up thru 99 they had a drain plug. After that they did not. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Discovered that the $600E320 does indeed have a drain plug in the torque 
> converter which made it easy to drain out the old nasty fluid.  The fluid is 
> black and nasty and smells bad, probably never been changed.  Of course in 
> finding it if I had turned it one way the plug would have been about an inch 
> away, as it was I rotated it almost 360deg, of course... I read where they 
> had the drain up until a certain build, this car was built mid 98 I guess 
> (sold almost exactly 21 yr ago right now according to docs in the manual 
> case).
> 
> Dropped the valve body and pulled the solenoids and conductor plate, cleaned 
> everything very well with break kleener, there was still fluid draining out 
> of the valve body, I think most of it came out.  I'll try to get it back 
> together tomorrow if I have time.  There a 10 or so screws holding it in, not 
> a big deal. There is some plastic slider piston kind of thing in the valve 
> body, I'll have to pay attention to what that grabs.  I'm wondering if that 
> is supposed to have a spring on it?  There isn't one.  I'll have to check on 
> that.  Looks like not, it hooks to something.
> 
> I'm hoping that a new dose of fluid and the conductor plate and connector 
> cures the issue.  And getting the fancy computer to talk to the tranny nanny. 
>  Will know soon.
> 
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[MBZ] Yay me!

2019-09-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Discovered that the $600E320 does indeed have a drain plug in the torque 
converter which made it easy to drain out the old nasty fluid.  The 
fluid is black and nasty and smells bad, probably never been changed.  
Of course in finding it if I had turned it one way the plug would have 
been about an inch away, as it was I rotated it almost 360deg, of 
course... I read where they had the drain up until a certain build, this 
car was built mid 98 I guess (sold almost exactly 21 yr ago right now 
according to docs in the manual case).


Dropped the valve body and pulled the solenoids and conductor plate, 
cleaned everything very well with break kleener, there was still fluid 
draining out of the valve body, I think most of it came out.  I'll try 
to get it back together tomorrow if I have time.  There a 10 or so 
screws holding it in, not a big deal. There is some plastic slider 
piston kind of thing in the valve body, I'll have to pay attention to 
what that grabs.  I'm wondering if that is supposed to have a spring on 
it?  There isn't one.  I'll have to check on that.  Looks like not, it 
hooks to something.


I'm hoping that a new dose of fluid and the conductor plate and 
connector cures the issue.  And getting the fancy computer to talk to 
the tranny nanny.  Will know soon.


--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 17:58:58 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> > On September 25, 2019 at 5:40 PM Craig via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
>  
> > No, it's called Iron, as I previously mentioned.
> 
> What I've read says that both Iron and Chromium are based on Goolag
> code and pass info to Goolag's databases.

The good and the bad:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SRWare_Iron

SRWare Iron is a Chromium-based web browser developed by the German
company SRWare.[6] It primarily aims to eliminate usage tracking and
other privacy-compromising functionality that the Google Chrome browser
includes.[7] While Iron does not provide extra privacy compared to
Chromium after proper settings are altered in the latter, it does
implement some additional features that distinguish it from Google Chrome.
[1][7] 

   

  Differences from Chrome
See also: Google Chrome user tracking

The following Google Chrome features are not present in Iron:[12][13][14]

RLZ identifier, an encoded string sent together with all queries
   to Google.[15] Google search access on startup for users with
   Google as default search.[15][16] Google-hosted error pages
   when a server is not present. Google Updater automatic
   installation.

DNS pre-fetching,[17] because it could potentially be used by
   spammers.[18][19][20] Automatic address bar search suggestions.

Opt-in sending of both browser usage statistics and crash information
   to Google. Google Native Client.[21]

  Added features include:

An ad blocker.

A user agent switcher.

Opt-in blocking of other background communications, such as
extension, GPU blacklist, and certificate revocation updates.[22]
Increased number of recent page thumbnails shown on the New Tab
page.


Criticism

According to Lifehacker, Iron offers little that is not available by
simply configuring Google Chrome's privacy settings.[23] According to
others, it is scamware or scareware,[24] since the developers bring up
non-existent issues about Chrome to claim Iron solves it.[12]

Although SRWare has been claiming "Iron is free and OpenSource",[25] this
wasn't true from at least version 6 on until mid 2015, as the links given
by them for the source code were hosted in RapidShare and blocked by the
uploader.[26][27][28] SRWare Iron "is entirely closed source and has been
since at least version 6".[21] According to Lifehacker, as of October
2014 SRWare Iron was "supposedly open source but haven't released their
source for years".[23] In 2015, SRWare resumed releasing what they claim
is the source code for the browser, although not stating on their page
what version the source code is from.[29] 


Craig

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[MBZ] FAA misled Congress on Boeing 737 MAX, probe finds

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
Rich's link to the Seattle Times had some interesting other articles.

Given previous interest in the 737 MAX problems, I thought these might be
useful to post.


Craig

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https://www.seattletimes.com/business/boeing-aerospace/faa-misled-congress-on-boeing-737-max-probe-
finds/

FAA misled Congress on Boeing 737 MAX, probe finds
Sep. 23, 2019 at 5:02 pm Updated Sep. 24, 2019 at 2:16 pm

WASHINGTON – Investigators examining a whistleblower complaint have
concluded that safety inspectors who worked on training requirements for
Boeing 737 MAX pilots were themselves “underqualified” – and that the
Federal Aviation Administration provided misleading information about the
issue to Congress.

The article continues for 20 more paragraphs on the website.

--

https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/times-watchdog/the-inside-story-of-mcas-how-boeings-737-max-system-gained-power-and-lost-safeguards/

The inside story of MCAS: How Boeing’s 737 MAX system gained power and
lost safeguards
June 22, 2019 at 2:00 pm Updated June 24, 2019 at 5:25 pm

WASHINGTON – Investigators examining a whistleblower complaint have
concluded that safety inspectors who worked on training requirements for
Boeing 737 MAX pilots were themselves “underqualified” – and that the
Federal Aviation Administration provided misleading information about the
issue to Congress.

This article also continues for 20 more paragraphs on the website.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
I have read that Brave browser has the Chromium engine but has been deFAANGed.

Greg

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> On September 25, 2019 at 5:40 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
 
> No, it's called Iron, as I previously mentioned.

What I've read says that both Iron and Chromium are based on Goolag code and 
pass info to Goolag's databases.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT video about our flooding issues

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Mon, 23 Sep 2019 15:31:59 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Except you are exactly wrong in the case of the Charleston area coast.
> It is well documented (you know, “science”) that the sea level here has
> risen significantly in the last few decades, and will likely continue
> to do so. The primary cause seems to be a very slight slowing of the
> Gulf Stream, which apparently is due to more freshwater from the
> arctic. The water “backs up” a bit. 
> 
> One can argue the reasons for this increased fresh water but it is fact
> that it is happening whether one believes it or not. 

One should also consider the effect of the last ice age stopping. There
was a tremendous amount of ice over the northern portions of the U.S.
This caused the land there to be pushed down and land to the south to be
pushed up. With the ice gone, the land in the north is rebounding and the
land in the south is subsiding, all from causes totally unrelated to CO2,
which is what the alarmists try to say it is.

A counter perspective of the Gulf Stream is at
http://ocp.ldeo.columbia.edu/res/div/ocp/gs/. That, unfortunately,
addresses heat transport to northern European climes and not sea level.
I'll ask on my other list to see what they say about sea levels.


> One thing we observed in our data from the hurricane, about 6” in a
> fairly short time, is a very rapid increased fresh water rain runoff,
> and hence very low dissolved oxygen levels, that derives from a runoff
> pulse from the developed areas, and runs into the marsh creeks and
> river. This is Very Bad for the marsh life, which sustains everything
> in the oceans. It essentially creates desert conditions for the marsh.
> The runoff from forested and agricultural areas is higher in oxygen
> which seems to reflect mixing from slower seepage and release from
> spongier areas. This provides a much better input to the marsh and
> creeks. 

That would say development around marsh areas should be curtailed, just
as your post of the Seattle Times article says, but for other reasons.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


> On September 25, 2019 at 5:40 PM Craig via Mercedes  
> wrote:
 
> No, it's called Iron, as I previously mentioned.

What I've read says that both Iron and Chromium are based on Goolag code and 
pass info to Goolag's databases.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 14:59:36 -0400 (EDT) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Oops, it appears that Chromium phones home to our Goolag Overlords too.
> Safari, anyone?
> Mitch.
> > On September 25, 2019 at 2:48 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > Does the work related stuff work with the "safe" derivation of
> > Chrome, I think it's called Chromium or somesuch?

No, it's called Iron, as I previously mentioned.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 25/09/2019 3:25 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

Seems Hawai’i lets you plant homes in lava flows.


clay monroe



Land cost is low but insurance is not applicable.

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Clay Monroe via Mercedes
Same sort of idiocy is going on nationwide.  The build out of homes in clearly 
stupid locations is rampant.  SWMBA took me for a drive up the side of a 
foothill (technically mountain) with giant grades, small roadway, large scrub 
covered lots and homes lacking access to fire plugs.  The whole thing reminded 
me of Laguna Beach/Blue Bird Canyon in the early 70’s where scrubland was being 
turned into denser and denser homesites.  Then a bunch of years later the whole 
place went up in flames.

Seems Hawai’i lets you plant homes in lava flows.



clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Sep 25, 2019, at 8:45 AM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:01:09 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/builders-profit-owners-worry-amid-disaster-area-development/
> 
> But it's happening in San Diego ...
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
We define "affordable" differently.  I had 7 happy and trouble free years
driving on $45.00 non-Michelin tires.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 12:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Michelin Defenders are the only affordable worthwhile tire for the w123.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a set I could pull off my TD and send to him, I have some snows
> from one of the SDs too that I think are the same size. Shipping and a
> small handling fee, we're all good!
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 9/25/19 10:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Maybe you can find a place that sells re-treads?  I'll bet they would
> be a
> >> lot cheaper!
> >> -
> >> Max
> >> Charleston SC
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:11 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I'm a corporate instructor, the company sez "You will use Chrome for this 
purpose" so I use Chrome for that purpose.
I can't very well say "Well my employer suggests Chrome but I'm worried about 
Google collecting my information so I suggest you use this other thing we've 
never tested."

-Curt

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 2:49:17 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Does the work related stuff work with the "safe" derivation of Chrome, I think 
it's called Chromium or somesuch?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Oops, it appears that Chromium phones home to our Goolag Overlords too.
Safari, anyone?
Mitch.
> On September 25, 2019 at 2:48 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Does the work related stuff work with the "safe" derivation of Chrome, I 
> think it's called Chromium or somesuch?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


Does the work related stuff work with the "safe" derivation of Chrome, I think 
it's called Chromium or somesuch?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

On 25/09/2019 11:44 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

What? You'd install Chrome on a work machine? A home machine is bad enough.
There are SO many browser alternatives out there, why intentionally use
spyware? OK - maybe there aren't so many alternative browsers for Macs, I
don't know, but anything else is better than Google spyware ...


So, you recommend, Microsoft spyware??

Randy


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[MBZ] Dealership for parts

2019-09-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
https://www.mercedespartshub.com/

Seems like a decent option for a dealership, their prices were among the
lower end and they are located in Daytona FL so not too far for shipping
for me.  I sent a query about a different part (the plastic cable bracket
on the strut that holds the ABS wire and the brake pad sensor wire) and
they responded after two days.  Ordered that part from them for a couple
bucks each side, we'll see if they gave me the right part number when that
arrives.

Saturday I ordered a set of new ARB brackets for The White Whale.  You may
recall that this car seems to be eating these at a rapid rate, I've tried a
few aftermarket parts and they don't last but a year or two.  So I'll see
if the star mark will make them last a bit longer.  Today the ARB brackets
arrived, maybe this afternoon I'll have some time to install them.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Now I see why my flood insurance is over 3k a year. This house went through
the 1938 and '54 hurricanes.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Wickford RI


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> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/builders-profit-owners-worry-amid-disaster-area-development/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
But that only happens when you install a web browser from the world's leading 
spyware producer?

It sounds like it violates your privacy even when you aren't using it, as 
that's the only way it could crash your computer before you launch the browser.

Mitch

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  Chrome is actually a required browser for my workflow. One of our
>  products requires it as does the VMWare Web interface...

Some people didn't learn anything from the history of Internet Explorer.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 If you read through the article referenced it has instructions for booting 
into recovery mode and removing the offending parts through the terminal. I'll 
then upgrade to Sierra which includes SIP which prevents the problem.
-Curt

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 12:58:05 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:44:56 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What? You'd install Chrome on a work machine? A home machine is bad
> enough. There are SO many browser alternatives out there, why
> intentionally use spyware? OK - maybe there aren't so many alternative
> browsers for Macs, I don't know, but anything else is better than
> Google spyware ...

I use Iron on Linux and our laptop, which currently runs only Windows.

Can you, Curt, boot your Mac with a rescue disk and remove the offending
parts of Chrome, and then boot it normally and remove the rest of it?


Craig



> > Have you guys seen this?
> > https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262?hl=en
> > Its been a BIG problem at work, in a nutshell Macs on versions before
> > SIP (System Integrity Protection) all of a sudden don't boot. They
> > boot up a little bit and shut back off.Google says this is from 10.9
> > back but my MacPro is 10.10 and is doing it.Guess tonight after work
> > I'll be fixing mine and upgrading. I think the other two Macs we have
> > are both on Sierra... -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Chrome is actually a required browser for my workflow. One of our products 
requires it as does the VMWare Web interface...
I didn't think I had Chrome on my Mac at home but I must be incorrect.

-Curt

On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, 12:45:54 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 What? You'd install Chrome on a work machine? A home machine is bad enough.
There are SO many browser alternatives out there, why intentionally use
spyware? OK - maybe there aren't so many alternative browsers for Macs, I
don't know, but anything else is better than Google spyware ...

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Have you guys seen this?
> https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262?hl=en
> Its been a BIG problem at work, in a nutshell Macs on versions before SIP
> (System Integrity Protection) all of a sudden don't boot. They boot up a
> little bit and shut back off.Google says this is from 10.9 back but my
> MacPro is 10.10 and is doing it.Guess tonight after work I'll be fixing
> mine and upgrading. I think the other two Macs we have are both on Sierra...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:44:56 -0500 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What? You'd install Chrome on a work machine? A home machine is bad
> enough. There are SO many browser alternatives out there, why
> intentionally use spyware? OK - maybe there aren't so many alternative
> browsers for Macs, I don't know, but anything else is better than
> Google spyware ...

I use Iron on Linux and our laptop, which currently runs only Windows.

Can you, Curt, boot your Mac with a rescue disk and remove the offending
parts of Chrome, and then boot it normally and remove the rest of it?


Craig



> > Have you guys seen this?
> > https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262?hl=en
> > Its been a BIG problem at work, in a nutshell Macs on versions before
> > SIP (System Integrity Protection) all of a sudden don't boot. They
> > boot up a little bit and shut back off.Google says this is from 10.9
> > back but my MacPro is 10.10 and is doing it.Guess tonight after work
> > I'll be fixing mine and upgrading. I think the other two Macs we have
> > are both on Sierra... -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:45:01 -0600 Craig via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:01:09 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
> > https://www.seattletimes.com/business/builders-profit-owners-worry-amid-disaster-area-development/
> 
> But it's happening in San Diego ...

Reading farther, I also see it's happening on Johns Island, SC!


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
What? You'd install Chrome on a work machine? A home machine is bad enough.
There are SO many browser alternatives out there, why intentionally use
spyware? OK - maybe there aren't so many alternative browsers for Macs, I
don't know, but anything else is better than Google spyware ...

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 11:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Have you guys seen this?
> https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262?hl=en
> Its been a BIG problem at work, in a nutshell Macs on versions before SIP
> (System Integrity Protection) all of a sudden don't boot. They boot up a
> little bit and shut back off.Google says this is from 10.9 back but my
> MacPro is 10.10 and is doing it.Guess tonight after work I'll be fixing
> mine and upgrading. I think the other two Macs we have are both on Sierra...
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 08:01:09 -0400 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
 wrote:

> https://www.seattletimes.com/business/builders-profit-owners-worry-amid-disaster-area-development/

But it's happening in San Diego ...


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: Google breaks Macs

2019-09-25 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Have you guys seen this? https://support.google.com/chrome/thread/15235262?hl=en
Its been a BIG problem at work, in a nutshell Macs on versions before SIP 
(System Integrity Protection) all of a sudden don't boot. They boot up a little 
bit and shut back off.Google says this is from 10.9 back but my MacPro is 10.10 
and is doing it.Guess tonight after work I'll be fixing mine and upgrading. I 
think the other two Macs we have are both on Sierra...
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Michelin Defenders are the only affordable worthwhile tire for the w123.
Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 25, 2019, at 10:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a set I could pull off my TD and send to him, I have some snows from 
> one of the SDs too that I think are the same size. Shipping and a small 
> handling fee, we're all good!
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 9/25/19 10:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
>> Maybe you can find a place that sells re-treads?  I'll bet they would be a
>> lot cheaper!
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:11 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
I have a set I could pull off my TD and send to him, I have some snows 
from one of the SDs too that I think are the same size. Shipping and a 
small handling fee, we're all good!


--FT

On 9/25/19 10:34 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Maybe you can find a place that sells re-treads?  I'll bet they would be a
lot cheaper!
-
Max
Charleston SC


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You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.




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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread archer75--- via Mercedes
On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 10:34:07 -0400
Meade Dillon via Mercedes  wrote:

> Maybe you can find a place that sells re-treads?  I'll bet they would be a
> lot cheaper!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Wed, Sep 25, 2019 at 10:11 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Maybe you can find a place that sells re-treads?  I'll bet they would be a
lot cheaper!
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
You can relax, Dimitri. Nankang tires in that size are out of stock.

On Wed, Sep 25, 2019, 9:53 AM Dimitri Seretakis 
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> Nankang? Seriously? Don’t cheap out on tires!!!
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The $45 Go Forms are starting to deteriorate after 8 years - not bad for
> an
> > off brand.
> >
> > I found some decent Nankang H rated all weather tires online @$50, all
> > inclusive.  I will ask Costco to mount/balance them.  If all goes well, I
> > will share my experience with the selling website.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 4:19 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>> Costco doesn't carry any 195/70/14 tires for my 300TD
> >>
> >> Sure they do. See the attached screenshot. They aren't your cheap,
> >> Pro-form, $25 a tire, but they sell that size tire. Order a set and
> call it
> >> good. Or go to Discount Tire and have them mount your cheapies.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Nankang? Seriously? Don’t cheap out on tires!!!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 23, 2019, at 10:25 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The $45 Go Forms are starting to deteriorate after 8 years - not bad for an
> off brand.
> 
> I found some decent Nankang H rated all weather tires online @$50, all
> inclusive.  I will ask Costco to mount/balance them.  If all goes well, I
> will share my experience with the selling website.
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On Sun, Sep 22, 2019 at 4:19 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>>> Costco doesn't carry any 195/70/14 tires for my 300TD
>> 
>> Sure they do. See the attached screenshot. They aren't your cheap,
>> Pro-form, $25 a tire, but they sell that size tire. Order a set and call it
>> good. Or go to Discount Tire and have them mount your cheapies.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to jump on this quick

2019-09-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Slammed, stacked, patina — what more could you want for $270?

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[MBZ] OT Today in Seattle!!!

2019-09-25 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
https://www.seattletimes.com/business/builders-profit-owners-worry-amid-disaster-area-development/

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Re: [MBZ] Somebody needs to jump on this quick

2019-09-25 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Jump as in jump on a hand grenade and "take one for the boys"?  No thanks,
someone else can be the hero today...
-
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Re: [MBZ] Costco tires

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I believe Rick pointed out that Costco could get at least one Michelin model in 
the W123 size.
And I just noticed that Costco has $110 off on 4 Michelins thru 10/1/2019, 
making them about $27 per tire more palatable than usual.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 91 300D Needs to go

2019-09-25 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
While I'd love some to have a spare OM602, VA is just too far for me.
I was thinking of Curley (Loren), who I believe wanted to pick it up in 
December.
You said wife wanted $200 and car gone. I wondered if she'd settle for one of 
those now and the other in 2-3 months.

> On September 24, 2019 at 9:47 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
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> Are you asking me to store it for a while?
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