Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Here, here.

> -Original Message-
> From:  Curley McLain via Mercedes
> 
> Buying parts started to suck when Q quit.   It STILL sucks.
> 


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Re: [MBZ] Saturday funny

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ISU's dancing sharks made national TV a few weeks ago. (and also last 
year)   But that was no accident.


OKU's wagon is funny because some budding young engineers got a lesson 
in physics.


OK Don via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 11:35 PM:

I'm surprised it took this long, and that it made national news -





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Re: [MBZ] Saturday funny

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I'm surprised it took this long, and that it made national news -

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:27 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Did y'all see this?  Flyin Okies!
>
>
> https://sports.yahoo.com/oklahomas-sooner-schooner-tips-over-while-celebrating-td-172912119.html
>
> It is hilarious. (fortunately nobody got hurt)
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[MBZ] Saturday funny

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Did y'all see this?  Flyin Okies!

https://sports.yahoo.com/oklahomas-sooner-schooner-tips-over-while-celebrating-td-172912119.html

It is hilarious. (fortunately nobody got hurt)

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Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Gator ate 'im.    Then it croaked!

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 10:36 PM:

Is Jabba still around?





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Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

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Is Jabba still around?

--FT
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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:10 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Buying parts started to suck when Q quit.   It STILL sucks.
> 
> Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 8:50 PM:
>> So now that importec is out of business, I am stuck with either FCP Euro or 
>> Autohauz AZ.  FCP seems to not carry items I am looking for.  Or only 
>> carries genuine MB parts that cost a lot more than a cheaper alternative for 
>> shift bushings for example. Autohaus carries the cheaper versions of some 
>> parts that are not critical such as antenna seal, but other items are a lot 
>> more expensive.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Buying parts started to suck when Q quit.   It STILL sucks.

Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 8:50 PM:
So now that importec is out of business, I am stuck with either FCP 
Euro or Autohauz AZ.  FCP seems to not carry items I am looking for.  
Or only carries genuine MB parts that cost a lot more than a cheaper 
alternative for shift bushings for example. Autohaus carries the 
cheaper versions of some parts that are not critical such as antenna 
seal, but other items are a lot more expensive.






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Re: [MBZ] This is the car that was for sale from somebody else for $700 a while back.

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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 10:27 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/527342724750571/
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[MBZ] This is the car that was for sale from somebody else for $700 a while back.

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/527342724750571/


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Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

I have found that any item that is MB genuine on FCP I can get cheaper 
from several of the online dealer parts sites.


On 10/20/2019 8:59 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I found that the MB dealer in Daytona had lower prices than FCP and Peach Parts 
and Auto Haus, for small stuff like O-rings and fuel return line hose.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sun Oct 20 21:51:07 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
:
  

So now that importec is out of business, I am stuck with either FCP Euro
or Autohauz AZ. FCP seems to not carry items I am looking for. Or only
carries genuine MB parts that cost a lot more than a cheaper alternative
for shift bushings for example. Autohaus carries the cheaper versions of
some parts that are not critical such as antenna seal, but other items
are a lot more expensive.


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Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I found that the MB dealer in Daytona had lower prices than FCP and Peach Parts 
and Auto Haus, for small stuff like O-rings and fuel return line hose.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Sun Oct 20 21:51:07 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
:
 
> So now that importec is out of business, I am stuck with either FCP Euro 
> or Autohauz AZ. FCP seems to not carry items I am looking for. Or only 
> carries genuine MB parts that cost a lot more than a cheaper alternative 
> for shift bushings for example. Autohaus carries the cheaper versions of 
> some parts that are not critical such as antenna seal, but other items 
> are a lot more expensive.
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

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On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 20:46:20 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> As an aside, I made sure nothing got into the cylinders while I was
> cleaning and cutting by removing the glow plugs and blowing compressed
> air into the glow plug ports while I was working in the injector bores.

Great idea, Dan!


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[MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

So now that importec is out of business, I am stuck with either FCP Euro 
or Autohauz AZ.  FCP seems to not carry items I am looking for.  Or only 
carries genuine MB parts that cost a lot more than a cheaper alternative 
for shift bushings for example. Autohaus carries the cheaper versions of 
some parts that are not critical such as antenna seal, but other items 
are a lot more expensive.



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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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Yeah I pulled that out and put it on the charger. If it doesn’t charge up I’ll 
put it back in and put the charger on those cables, or maybe just jump it with 
another battery, maybe that will juice things up. 

--FT
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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:48 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does it help if you could get to the little motorcycle battery under the 
> hood? Does that power up any of the systems such as the doors?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can you get to the battery wire connection on the solenoid? If so, you
>> should be able to charge it from there ---
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 7:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good point. Hadn’t thought about that.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from
>>> the trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the
>>> back seat.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up?
>>> Don’t these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for
>>> jumping/charging?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  &
>>> turning
>> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the
>>> electric
>> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
>>> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the
>>> car, I
>>> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one
>>> and put
>>> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out
>>> anyway.
>>> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it
>>> up, no
>>> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open
>>> the
>>> trunk if it takes a charge?
>>> 
>>> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from
>>> the
>>> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t
>>> release
>>> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
>>> 
>>> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the
>>> big
>>> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those.
>>> Maybe put
>>> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
>>> 
>>> These newer cars are a total PITA
>>> 
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>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
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>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right - LONG

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Wow, that’s steep. My new house is getting inspected by the same guys that 
inspected my current home for me on Tuesday. $475. And that includes a wind 
mitigation survey, which is critical here as it guarantees to your insurer that 
your roof is up to code. My insurance last year with a 20 year old roof was 
around $1700. When I got my roof replaced and had a wind mitigation study done, 
my new insurance dropped to $1200.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 9:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You should get licensed as a home inspector.  They charge $750 per house
> around here.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 8:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Great story!
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Not the house I built in Florida with a spec home builder. We were their
>> worst nightmare as we’ve built several houses, some ourselves, some using a
>> general contractor who subbed much of it out to us.
>>> 
>>> Read some of the anecdotes. You’ll understand why I said what I did:
>>> 
>>> We red-lined medicine cabinets in all the bathrooms. Interior framers
>> went ahead and framed in for them anyway. Not a big deal as long as the
>> finish carpenters don’t cut them out. Again, we went around and marked the
>> drywall so the finish carpenters knew not to cut out the openings for
>> medicine cabinets. They cut one out before we could stop them. Builder said
>> they would have the hole patched. No you won’t, we told them. It’s MR
>> (moisture resistant or “greenboard”) board and there can’t be any holes in
>> it. Fast forward several days and nothing is done with it. One morning I
>> get a call from the job super in a huge panic. "Someone is vandalizing your
>> home!!!" I pause and give it some thought. “I doubt it. I suspect that’s
>> the wife providing some nonverbal feedback.” Yup, they had patched the
>> hole. She saw it on her daily morning walk through, went out to her car,
>> got a hammer and punched holes in the rest of the drywall sheet so it had
>> to be replaced as we specified.
>>> 
>>> I was looking at the interior framing one evening when we were doing our
>> twice daily inspections. I noticed that the wall between out dining room
>> and laundry room, which had the dryer vent going up to the roof through it,
>> was a standard 2x4 wall. So there’s a 4” metal vent pipe in a wall that’s
>> 3-1/2” thick. Yeah, I don’t think so. Job super says “Yeah, we do them all
>> that way. It’s not a problem, the vent pipe just flattens out a little.
>> Nope. Better comply with code, guys, and put in a 2x6 wall to accommodate
>> the 4” pipe. They did.
>>> 
>>> Same wall was curved. I mean curved. I don’t recall what spec was,
>> something like no more than 3/8” deviation in a 6 foot run, something like
>> that. I took my 8’ carpenter’s level and struck a line to show the wall was
>> well outside the spec. They tore it out and did it again, and the new wall
>> was square/plumb. Amazing!
>>> 
>>> Doing the final punch list we pointed out that there were no switches
>> for the spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai like there was in the
>> model. “Oh, we don’t do those, they’re only in the model.” Pull out copy of
>> the construction contract. “Spa pump and heater with all wiring and
>> installation, as shown in model.” Yeah, sorry, but you’re doing them in
>> this house. Two days later an electrician came out and wired the switches
>> for our spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai. The punctuation on
>> this - when we did the final-final punch list, the job super gave us the
>> switch box from the model labeled “spa pump/heater”. It was empty. It was a
>> dummy and had never been connected to anything.
>>> 
>>> Lastly, not long after we moved in, we received a bill from the local
>> propane supplier. It was for the initial fill and also had a line for the
>> tank lease on it. We never signed a lease for a propane tank. We had a 100
>> gallon propane tank buried in the front yard to feed our gas appliances,
>> fireplace and spa heater. It was an addendum to the construction contract
>> done at the time of purchase. Contract stated, “Builder shall provide 100
>> gallon propane tank and all related piping, valves and hardware for spa
>> heater, fireplace, etc., etc.” We called the builder and asked them what
>> was up. “Oh, all the tanks are leased.” Yeah, I’m afraid not, as we paid
>> for this tank as a part of the contract." They had to buy out the lease
>> from the propane supplier.
>>> 
>>> These are just a small sample of the crazy sh*t that took place the one
>> time we used a spec home builder. They handed out these little carbonless
>> forms that you could fill out and turn in to the office if you found
>> something wrong. They ended up giving us a whole box of the forms.
>>> 
>>> And the really sad part is that we didn’t do anything but hold them to
>

Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right - LONG

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You should get licensed as a home inspector.  They charge $750 per house
around here.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 8:35 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Great story!
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Not the house I built in Florida with a spec home builder. We were their
> worst nightmare as we’ve built several houses, some ourselves, some using a
> general contractor who subbed much of it out to us.
> >
> > Read some of the anecdotes. You’ll understand why I said what I did:
> >
> > We red-lined medicine cabinets in all the bathrooms. Interior framers
> went ahead and framed in for them anyway. Not a big deal as long as the
> finish carpenters don’t cut them out. Again, we went around and marked the
> drywall so the finish carpenters knew not to cut out the openings for
> medicine cabinets. They cut one out before we could stop them. Builder said
> they would have the hole patched. No you won’t, we told them. It’s MR
> (moisture resistant or “greenboard”) board and there can’t be any holes in
> it. Fast forward several days and nothing is done with it. One morning I
> get a call from the job super in a huge panic. "Someone is vandalizing your
> home!!!" I pause and give it some thought. “I doubt it. I suspect that’s
> the wife providing some nonverbal feedback.” Yup, they had patched the
> hole. She saw it on her daily morning walk through, went out to her car,
> got a hammer and punched holes in the rest of the drywall sheet so it had
> to be replaced as we specified.
> >
> > I was looking at the interior framing one evening when we were doing our
> twice daily inspections. I noticed that the wall between out dining room
> and laundry room, which had the dryer vent going up to the roof through it,
> was a standard 2x4 wall. So there’s a 4” metal vent pipe in a wall that’s
> 3-1/2” thick. Yeah, I don’t think so. Job super says “Yeah, we do them all
> that way. It’s not a problem, the vent pipe just flattens out a little.
> Nope. Better comply with code, guys, and put in a 2x6 wall to accommodate
> the 4” pipe. They did.
> >
> > Same wall was curved. I mean curved. I don’t recall what spec was,
> something like no more than 3/8” deviation in a 6 foot run, something like
> that. I took my 8’ carpenter’s level and struck a line to show the wall was
> well outside the spec. They tore it out and did it again, and the new wall
> was square/plumb. Amazing!
> >
> > Doing the final punch list we pointed out that there were no switches
> for the spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai like there was in the
> model. “Oh, we don’t do those, they’re only in the model.” Pull out copy of
> the construction contract. “Spa pump and heater with all wiring and
> installation, as shown in model.” Yeah, sorry, but you’re doing them in
> this house. Two days later an electrician came out and wired the switches
> for our spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai. The punctuation on
> this - when we did the final-final punch list, the job super gave us the
> switch box from the model labeled “spa pump/heater”. It was empty. It was a
> dummy and had never been connected to anything.
> >
> > Lastly, not long after we moved in, we received a bill from the local
> propane supplier. It was for the initial fill and also had a line for the
> tank lease on it. We never signed a lease for a propane tank. We had a 100
> gallon propane tank buried in the front yard to feed our gas appliances,
> fireplace and spa heater. It was an addendum to the construction contract
> done at the time of purchase. Contract stated, “Builder shall provide 100
> gallon propane tank and all related piping, valves and hardware for spa
> heater, fireplace, etc., etc.” We called the builder and asked them what
> was up. “Oh, all the tanks are leased.” Yeah, I’m afraid not, as we paid
> for this tank as a part of the contract." They had to buy out the lease
> from the propane supplier.
> >
> > These are just a small sample of the crazy sh*t that took place the one
> time we used a spec home builder. They handed out these little carbonless
> forms that you could fill out and turn in to the office if you found
> something wrong. They ended up giving us a whole box of the forms.
> >
> > And the really sad part is that we didn’t do anything but hold them to
> the terms of their contract. We asked for nothing that wasn’t stated or
> defined in the contract. What’s worse is the thought about how bad they
> hosed other people’s homes up who either weren't involved in the
> construction or didn’t know any better. G-d forbid if you bought an
> inventory home from them!
> >
> > This is typical spec home builder behavior, I might add. They were so
> upset with us that when the house was almost finished out they banned us
> from the property and hired a security guard to sit in front of the place
> after hours. Dipsh*t never got out of his c

Re: [MBZ] A W115 300D!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Painted in Unfortunate Yellow.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 6:30 PM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Might be worth it but something is off with the interior.  Seats and
> door panels are black and carpet is tan.  I bet it is supposed to have
> tan interior and the seats etc were swapped in.
>
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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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If it were a Diesel there would be a big fat B+ in the glow relay.

Otherwise, there is a big B+ somewhere under the fuse box.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 7:48 PM:

Does it help if you could get to the little motorcycle battery under the hood? 
Does that power up any of the systems such as the doors?

-D





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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

85 380SL has Battree in the trunk, and a terminal block on the Rt inner 
fender, that you jump to.   Not rocket science, but the MBean counters 
probably took it out of the 211.


Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 6:09 PM:

My W140 has battery in trunk, no jumper hookups under the hood that I know of.

My Saturn has battery in the trunk.
Very obvious jumper terminals under the hood.
In MBZ's defense, the Saturn is ten years newer, but still, it'd be nice if you 
could easily jump the W140 within ten feet of the starter.





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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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Does it help if you could get to the little motorcycle battery under the hood? 
Does that power up any of the systems such as the doors?

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Can you get to the battery wire connection on the solenoid? If so, you
> should be able to charge it from there ---
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 7:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Good point. Hadn’t thought about that.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from
>> the trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the
>> back seat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up?
>> Don’t these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for
>> jumping/charging?
 
 -D
 
 
> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  &
>> turning
> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the
>> electric
> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
>> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the
>> car, I
>> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one
>> and put
>> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out
>> anyway.
>> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it
>> up, no
>> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open
>> the
>> trunk if it takes a charge?
>> 
>> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from
>> the
>> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t
>> release
>> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
>> 
>> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the
>> big
>> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those.
>> Maybe put
>> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
>> 
>> These newer cars are a total PITA
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

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The OM648 has flat seats where the copper sealing ring goes between the head 
and the injector. Much like the “heat shield” of the OM617, only copper, and 
the injector is held in place with a forked clamp that goes around recesses on 
each side of the injector body and has a hold down bolt threaded into the head.

You use a seat cutting tool like this:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B07HH9MDF7/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 


It works for a number of different common rail engines like the OM648, which in 
this case, has 17mm flat seats.

In this case it would appear that no one had cut the seats in some time. They 
were clearly “dished” in shape as the old copper washers indicated when they 
were removed. The sealing washers/rings should have been flat. In this case the 
condition just contributed to the leaking of the injectors, as the copper 
washer wasn’t sealing properly. When I ran the seat cutter the first few turns 
only the very outer portion of the seat was cut, like maybe a millimeter or so 
around the outside. I had to cut for a bit to get the seats flat again.

Consider that if the seats aren’t flat that combustion gasses will quickly find 
a way past the sealing ring. I suspect this contributed to the seat wear or 
distortion, especially based on the mileage on this engine (+327k).

Interestingly, some owners in Europe have had good results using a slightly 
thicker copper washer that is used by Honda in some of their over the road 
diesels. It looks like these might have been used in this car, as the copper 
washers I removed from the engine were definitely thicker than the washers 
supplied by Mercedes.

In other words, someone down the line was cutting corners and not seats. This 
was just on cylinders #3 and #4, the remaining cylinders are not seeping or 
leaking, so I’m not touching them. At least now I know what’s required to do 
the job should it occur again.

As an aside, I made sure nothing got into the cylinders while I was cleaning 
and cutting by removing the glow plugs and blowing compressed air into the glow 
plug ports while I was working in the injector bores.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:30 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just curious, should I ever have to deal with one of these Lektronic demons, 
> How do you "cut the seat?"   MFI OM engines have tapered seals, as you know.
> 
> I never heard of this.
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 1:45 PM:
>> It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

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Waytago!    Sumpin has ta justify your back 40!

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 3:50 PM:

I checked the sensor in another 201 out back and it was open. Discovered the 
harness was damaged so I pulled it out and spliced it and it tested fine. Put 
it in the car and compressor is now cycling as it should.





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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

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They put that in just for you!

On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.


type shimmy into your phone (or fakebuch) and see what it changes the 
word to.


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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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Can you get to the battery wire connection on the solenoid? If so, you
should be able to charge it from there ---

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 7:03 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Good point. Hadn’t thought about that.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from
> the trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the
> back seat.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up?
> Don’t these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for
> jumping/charging?
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  &
> turning
> >>> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the
> electric
> >>> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
> >>>
> >>> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >>> Wickford RI
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
>  release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the
> car, I
>  think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one
> and put
>  it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out
> anyway.
>  Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it
> up, no
>  idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open
> the
>  trunk if it takes a charge?
> 
>  There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from
> the
>  fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t
> release
>  the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
> 
>  Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the
> big
>  battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those.
> Maybe put
>  it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
> 
>  These newer cars are a total PITA
> 
>  --FT
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

President of Vice!  That is good!

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 3:49 PM:

Actually, I’m the vice president this year. I was president for a couple of 
years and the state dictates that you can’t hold the same office for a term of 
more than two years unless no one else will step up.

Yeah, those board members are real assh*les. I think my wife is sleeping with 
one of them.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right - LONG

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Great story!

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 8:01 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Not the house I built in Florida with a spec home builder. We were their 
> worst nightmare as we’ve built several houses, some ourselves, some using a 
> general contractor who subbed much of it out to us.
> 
> Read some of the anecdotes. You’ll understand why I said what I did:
> 
> We red-lined medicine cabinets in all the bathrooms. Interior framers went 
> ahead and framed in for them anyway. Not a big deal as long as the finish 
> carpenters don’t cut them out. Again, we went around and marked the drywall 
> so the finish carpenters knew not to cut out the openings for medicine 
> cabinets. They cut one out before we could stop them. Builder said they would 
> have the hole patched. No you won’t, we told them. It’s MR (moisture 
> resistant or “greenboard”) board and there can’t be any holes in it. Fast 
> forward several days and nothing is done with it. One morning I get a call 
> from the job super in a huge panic. "Someone is vandalizing your home!!!" I 
> pause and give it some thought. “I doubt it. I suspect that’s the wife 
> providing some nonverbal feedback.” Yup, they had patched the hole. She saw 
> it on her daily morning walk through, went out to her car, got a hammer and 
> punched holes in the rest of the drywall sheet so it had to be replaced as we 
> specified.
> 
> I was looking at the interior framing one evening when we were doing our 
> twice daily inspections. I noticed that the wall between out dining room and 
> laundry room, which had the dryer vent going up to the roof through it, was a 
> standard 2x4 wall. So there’s a 4” metal vent pipe in a wall that’s 3-1/2” 
> thick. Yeah, I don’t think so. Job super says “Yeah, we do them all that way. 
> It’s not a problem, the vent pipe just flattens out a little. Nope. Better 
> comply with code, guys, and put in a 2x6 wall to accommodate the 4” pipe. 
> They did.
> 
> Same wall was curved. I mean curved. I don’t recall what spec was, something 
> like no more than 3/8” deviation in a 6 foot run, something like that. I took 
> my 8’ carpenter’s level and struck a line to show the wall was well outside 
> the spec. They tore it out and did it again, and the new wall was 
> square/plumb. Amazing!
> 
> Doing the final punch list we pointed out that there were no switches for the 
> spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai like there was in the model. 
> “Oh, we don’t do those, they’re only in the model.” Pull out copy of the 
> construction contract. “Spa pump and heater with all wiring and installation, 
> as shown in model.” Yeah, sorry, but you’re doing them in this house. Two 
> days later an electrician came out and wired the switches for our spa pump 
> and heater on the wall of the lanai. The punctuation on this - when we did 
> the final-final punch list, the job super gave us the switch box from the 
> model labeled “spa pump/heater”. It was empty. It was a dummy and had never 
> been connected to anything.
> 
> Lastly, not long after we moved in, we received a bill from the local propane 
> supplier. It was for the initial fill and also had a line for the tank lease 
> on it. We never signed a lease for a propane tank. We had a 100 gallon 
> propane tank buried in the front yard to feed our gas appliances, fireplace 
> and spa heater. It was an addendum to the construction contract done at the 
> time of purchase. Contract stated, “Builder shall provide 100 gallon propane 
> tank and all related piping, valves and hardware for spa heater, fireplace, 
> etc., etc.” We called the builder and asked them what was up. “Oh, all the 
> tanks are leased.” Yeah, I’m afraid not, as we paid for this tank as a part 
> of the contract." They had to buy out the lease from the propane supplier.
> 
> These are just a small sample of the crazy sh*t that took place the one time 
> we used a spec home builder. They handed out these little carbonless forms 
> that you could fill out and turn in to the office if you found something 
> wrong. They ended up giving us a whole box of the forms.
> 
> And the really sad part is that we didn’t do anything but hold them to the 
> terms of their contract. We asked for nothing that wasn’t stated or defined 
> in the contract. What’s worse is the thought about how bad they hosed other 
> people’s homes up who either weren't involved in the construction or didn’t 
> know any better. G-d forbid if you bought an inventory home from them!
> 
> This is typical spec home builder behavior, I might add. They were so upset 
> with us that when the house was almost finished out they banned us from the 
> property and hired a security guard to sit in front of the place after hours. 
> Dipsh*t never got out of his car, so it made it easy for us to go through the 
> place from the back...
> 
> -D who could write a book about building houses….
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Mitch Haley via M

Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Just curious, should I ever have to deal with one of these Lektronic 
demons, How do you "cut the seat?"   MFI OM engines have tapered seals, 
as you know.


I never heard of this.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 10/20/19 1:45 PM:

It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.



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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good point. Hadn’t thought about that.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:36 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from the 
> trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the back 
> seat. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up? Don’t 
>> these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for 
>> jumping/charging?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  & turning
>>> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the electric
>>> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
>>> 
>>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
 release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the car, I
 think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one and put
 it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway.
 Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it up, no
 idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open the
 trunk if it takes a charge?
 
 There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from the
 fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t release
 the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
 
 Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big
 battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe put
 it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
 
 These newer cars are a total PITA
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right - LONG

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Not the house I built in Florida with a spec home builder. We were their worst 
nightmare as we’ve built several houses, some ourselves, some using a general 
contractor who subbed much of it out to us.

Read some of the anecdotes. You’ll understand why I said what I did:

We red-lined medicine cabinets in all the bathrooms. Interior framers went 
ahead and framed in for them anyway. Not a big deal as long as the finish 
carpenters don’t cut them out. Again, we went around and marked the drywall so 
the finish carpenters knew not to cut out the openings for medicine cabinets. 
They cut one out before we could stop them. Builder said they would have the 
hole patched. No you won’t, we told them. It’s MR (moisture resistant or 
“greenboard”) board and there can’t be any holes in it. Fast forward several 
days and nothing is done with it. One morning I get a call from the job super 
in a huge panic. "Someone is vandalizing your home!!!" I pause and give it some 
thought. “I doubt it. I suspect that’s the wife providing some nonverbal 
feedback.” Yup, they had patched the hole. She saw it on her daily morning walk 
through, went out to her car, got a hammer and punched holes in the rest of the 
drywall sheet so it had to be replaced as we specified.

I was looking at the interior framing one evening when we were doing our twice 
daily inspections. I noticed that the wall between out dining room and laundry 
room, which had the dryer vent going up to the roof through it, was a standard 
2x4 wall. So there’s a 4” metal vent pipe in a wall that’s 3-1/2” thick. Yeah, 
I don’t think so. Job super says “Yeah, we do them all that way. It’s not a 
problem, the vent pipe just flattens out a little. Nope. Better comply with 
code, guys, and put in a 2x6 wall to accommodate the 4” pipe. They did.

Same wall was curved. I mean curved. I don’t recall what spec was, something 
like no more than 3/8” deviation in a 6 foot run, something like that. I took 
my 8’ carpenter’s level and struck a line to show the wall was well outside the 
spec. They tore it out and did it again, and the new wall was square/plumb. 
Amazing!

Doing the final punch list we pointed out that there were no switches for the 
spa pump and heater on the wall of the lanai like there was in the model. “Oh, 
we don’t do those, they’re only in the model.” Pull out copy of the 
construction contract. “Spa pump and heater with all wiring and installation, 
as shown in model.” Yeah, sorry, but you’re doing them in this house. Two days 
later an electrician came out and wired the switches for our spa pump and 
heater on the wall of the lanai. The punctuation on this - when we did the 
final-final punch list, the job super gave us the switch box from the model 
labeled “spa pump/heater”. It was empty. It was a dummy and had never been 
connected to anything.

Lastly, not long after we moved in, we received a bill from the local propane 
supplier. It was for the initial fill and also had a line for the tank lease on 
it. We never signed a lease for a propane tank. We had a 100 gallon propane 
tank buried in the front yard to feed our gas appliances, fireplace and spa 
heater. It was an addendum to the construction contract done at the time of 
purchase. Contract stated, “Builder shall provide 100 gallon propane tank and 
all related piping, valves and hardware for spa heater, fireplace, etc., etc.” 
We called the builder and asked them what was up. “Oh, all the tanks are 
leased.” Yeah, I’m afraid not, as we paid for this tank as a part of the 
contract." They had to buy out the lease from the propane supplier.

These are just a small sample of the crazy sh*t that took place the one time we 
used a spec home builder. They handed out these little carbonless forms that 
you could fill out and turn in to the office if you found something wrong. They 
ended up giving us a whole box of the forms.

And the really sad part is that we didn’t do anything but hold them to the 
terms of their contract. We asked for nothing that wasn’t stated or defined in 
the contract. What’s worse is the thought about how bad they hosed other 
people’s homes up who either weren't involved in the construction or didn’t 
know any better. G-d forbid if you bought an inventory home from them!

This is typical spec home builder behavior, I might add. They were so upset 
with us that when the house was almost finished out they banned us from the 
property and hired a security guard to sit in front of the place after hours. 
Dipsh*t never got out of his car, so it made it easy for us to go through the 
place from the back...

-D who could write a book about building houses….






> On Oct 20, 2019, at 5:48 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On October 20, 2019 at 5:01 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Then don’t come to Florida, as the majority of newer communities are “deed 
>> restricted”, as in having an HOA.
> 
> I can't imagine wanting to live in a "communit

Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

That's right.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 7:37 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from
> the trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the
> back seat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up?
> Don’t these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for
> jumping/charging?
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  &
> turning
> >> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the electric
> >> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
> >>
> >> Dwight Giles Jr.
> >> Wickford RI
> >>
> >> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
> >>> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the
> car, I
> >>> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one and
> put
> >>> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway.
> >>> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it
> up, no
> >>> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open
> the
> >>> trunk if it takes a charge?
> >>>
> >>> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from
> the
> >>> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t
> release
> >>> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
> >>>
> >>> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big
> >>> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe
> put
> >>> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
> >>>
> >>> These newer cars are a total PITA
> >>>
> >>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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I don’t think the 211 does because the battery is easily accessible from the 
trunk. The 210 has then under the hood because the battery is under the back 
seat. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 6:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up? Don’t 
> these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for 
> jumping/charging?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  & turning
>> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the electric
>> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
>> 
>> Dwight Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
>>> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the car, I
>>> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one and put
>>> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway.
>>> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it up, no
>>> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open the
>>> trunk if it takes a charge?
>>> 
>>> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from the
>>> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t release
>>> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
>>> 
>>> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big
>>> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe put
>>> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
>>> 
>>> These newer cars are a total PITA
>>> 
>>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

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Why can’t you access the terminals under the hood to charge things up? Don’t 
these cars have the B+ and ground terminals under the hood for jumping/charging?

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 7:29 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  & turning
> the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the electric
> key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
>> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the car, I
>> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one and put
>> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway.
>> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it up, no
>> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open the
>> trunk if it takes a charge?
>> 
>> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from the
>> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t release
>> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
>> 
>> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big
>> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe put
>> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
>> 
>> These newer cars are a total PITA
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

I had that issue on my 211 &  found that with a lot of fiddling  & turning
the steel key i could open the trunk. It didn't pop it like the electric
key but finally let me squeeze the latch to open trunk.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 6:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric
> release. Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the car, I
> think I put in another one to get it running then charged that one and put
> it back. Battery dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway.
> Took out the aux battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it up, no
> idea what its status is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open the
> trunk if it takes a charge?
>
> There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from the
> fob and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t release
> the trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.
>
> Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big
> battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe put
> it on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?
>
> These newer cars are a total PITA
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

My W140 has battery in trunk, no jumper hookups under the hood that I know of.

My Saturn has battery in the trunk. 
Very obvious jumper terminals under the hood.
In MBZ's defense, the Saturn is ten years newer, but still, it'd be nice if you 
could easily jump the W140 within ten feet of the starter.

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[MBZ] This $500E500 W211

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Went out to get something from the trunk. No happy. It has an electric release. 
Battery is in trunk. The one in it was flat when I got the car, I think I put 
in another one to get it running then charged that one and put it back. Battery 
dead it seems, was probably mostly crapped out anyway. Took out the aux 
battery, like a lawn mower battery, and charging it up, no idea what its status 
is. Maybe that will provide enough juice to open the trunk if it takes a charge?

There’s a key lock too up under the lid so I took the metal key from the fob 
and turned it. Maybe that locked it I don’t know but it didn’t release the 
trunk. Now it won’t turn back. Bugger.

Is there another place to put a charger on this thing to charge the big 
battery?  I don’t see a terminal anywhere, some cars have those. Maybe put it 
on the aux battery and let the electrons flow?

These newer cars are a total PITA

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] A W115 300D!

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Might be worth it but something is off with the interior.  Seats and 
door panels are black and carpet is tan.  I bet it is supposed to have 
tan interior and the seats etc were swapped in.


On 10/20/2019 5:14 PM, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/416618315901642/


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[MBZ] A W115 300D!

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/416618315901642/


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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Misspelling of shiny in that car  ad.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> > Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.
>
> I used to shinny up trees when I was a boy.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

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> Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.

I used to shinny up trees when I was a boy.


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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

They do.  Usually a fractured wire, but occasionally they just read goofy.

I had to replace the evaporator sensor on the TE, read wild.  Didn't fix the AC 
because I had a small hole in the condenser that took forever to find, along 
with the cracked evaporator.
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

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On Sun, 20 Oct 2019 15:55:26 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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> I can’t imagine anyone wanting to live somewhere with a HOA. 

Agreed.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Then don’t come to Florida, as the majority of newer communities are “deed 
restricted”, as in having an HOA.

The area I live in consists of two very distinct groups of neighborhoods 
bisected by a major thoroughfare. The western half was built out in the mid to 
late 1980s. The eastern half, where I live, started in the late 1980s and my 
neighborhood was one of the last to be built out in the late 1990s.

The western (older) part did not have HOA or deed restrictions. Some of the 
neighborhoods in the western part of the newer (eastern) section did not have 
HOAs.

You can drive through and tell what communities have them and which ones don’t. 
That’s all I have to say. To each his or her own, of course. Given the choice I 
would rather live in a rural area like you and have a decent sized piece of 
land I could do whatever I want on. Not my choice.

-D




> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:55 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> I can’t imagine anyone wanting to live somewhere with a HOA. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil 
>> stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> strong work.  Go have a beer, you deserve one
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 10/20/19 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 At least today I am….
 
 Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which were 
 bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull the 
 injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why they 
 were leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.
 
 Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first and 
 maybe 45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I 
 chickened out. With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty 
 confident they’re sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage 
 afterwards, so we should be  good.
 
 As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in 
 anticipation of having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector 
 was disconnected. I plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting 
 glow plugs bases on the light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a 
 stone cold start.
 
 I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was going 
 to break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on my 
 hands. I followed the book and made sure everything was done as described 
 and all went well - as it should have.
 
 Ah.
 
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

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I have honestly never heard of one going bad before. 

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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> You should check the value of it so you know what it is when this one cacks. 
> That way you can find a replacement.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I checked the sensor in another 201 out back and it was open. Discovered the 
>> harness was damaged so I pulled it out and spliced it and it tested fine. 
>> Put it in the car and compressor is now cycling as it should. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's a good bet, maybe you can swap housings, or at least maybe it will
>>> be "close enough".  Sometimes you can add a resistor in series to shift the
>>> values higher up, or add a resistor in parallel to move them down a bit.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Is Everyone on FB Marketplace an Idiot?

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Yep

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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Put a set of Arlo WiFi security cameras and a base station on my local FB 
> Marketplace. Was very detailed in the description, said the price was firm, I 
> would mark it sold when it was no longer available.
> 
> Holy mother of pearl. I have counted 47 canned “Is this item still available” 
> PMs and 14 “I’ll offer you $xxx for this” (usually a stupid low number half 
> of what it’s worth and I’m asking.)
> 
> I think I’ve found the Fountain of Stupid, and it is Facebook.
> 
> That being said, I just scored a truckload of really nice moving boxes that 
> filled the back of the ML. Nice.
> 
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[MBZ] Is Everyone on FB Marketplace an Idiot?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Put a set of Arlo WiFi security cameras and a base station on my local FB 
Marketplace. Was very detailed in the description, said the price was firm, I 
would mark it sold when it was no longer available.

Holy mother of pearl. I have counted 47 canned “Is this item still available” 
PMs and 14 “I’ll offer you $xxx for this” (usually a stupid low number half of 
what it’s worth and I’m asking.)

I think I’ve found the Fountain of Stupid, and it is Facebook.

That being said, I just scored a truckload of really nice moving boxes that 
filled the back of the ML. Nice.

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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I can’t imagine anyone wanting to live somewhere with a HOA. 

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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 2:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil 
> stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> strong work.  Go have a beer, you deserve one
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 10/20/19 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> At least today I am….
>>> 
>>> Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which were 
>>> bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull the 
>>> injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why they 
>>> were leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.
>>> 
>>> Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first and 
>>> maybe 45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I 
>>> chickened out. With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty 
>>> confident they’re sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage afterwards, 
>>> so we should be  good.
>>> 
>>> As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in 
>>> anticipation of having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector 
>>> was disconnected. I plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting 
>>> glow plugs bases on the light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a 
>>> stone cold start.
>>> 
>>> I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was going 
>>> to break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on my 
>>> hands. I followed the book and made sure everything was done as described 
>>> and all went well - as it should have.
>>> 
>>> Ah.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You should check the value of it so you know what it is when this one cacks. 
That way you can find a replacement.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:50 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I checked the sensor in another 201 out back and it was open. Discovered the 
> harness was damaged so I pulled it out and spliced it and it tested fine. Put 
> it in the car and compressor is now cycling as it should. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's a good bet, maybe you can swap housings, or at least maybe it will
>> be "close enough".  Sometimes you can add a resistor in series to shift the
>> values higher up, or add a resistor in parallel to move them down a bit.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 


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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Like “loose” for “lose”. Makes me crazy when I see it. Am I wrong to expect 
proper word usage?



-D

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:11 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.
> 
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2637219549674876/
>> 
>> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
>> Gaston, SC· about an hour ago
>> <
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2637219549674876/?ref=product_details>·
>> 
>> 
>> $2,500
>> 
>>  * About This Vehicle
>> 
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Driven 320,000 miles
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Automatic transmission
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Silver
>>  *
>>  o
>> 
>>  o Good condition
>>
>> 
>> Seller's Description
>> 
>> 1983 Mercedes Benz 300sd, 321k Miles, sliver/blueish but paint is faded
>> on hood and top is car, sides of car are pretty shinny still, runs and
>> drives great, new motor mounts, new tires and alignment, interior is
>> worn pretty good has newer front seats out of another Benz , new brake
>> master cylinder, lights all work, has been a daily driver . $2500
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 201 evap temp sensor

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I checked the sensor in another 201 out back and it was open. Discovered the 
harness was damaged so I pulled it out and spliced it and it tested fine. Put 
it in the car and compressor is now cycling as it should. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:36 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's a good bet, maybe you can swap housings, or at least maybe it will
> be "close enough".  Sometimes you can add a resistor in series to shift the
> values higher up, or add a resistor in parallel to move them down a bit.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:33 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> I will check it again tomorrow. It’s probably the same values as a 201
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 19, 2019, at 6:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Do your test values match those in the attached screenshot?  These are
>> for
>>> a 124 car with OM603 engine, and maybe other engines as well.
>>> -
>>> Max
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:00 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Yes that is correct
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:53 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> It's probably a simple thermistor, I'll bet, in a nice housing that
>> fits
 in place. You may be able to open up the housing and replace the
>> thermistor.
> 
> What are the test parameters? Measure the resistance and compare to a
 table or chart that has resistance at different temperatures?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Sat Oct 19 18:49:48 EDT 2019 Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> 
>> This 190D I have been working on the AC compressor runs non stop and
>> does not cycle like it should and freezes up the evaporator stopping
 air
>> flow. I tested the evap temp sensor and it tests bad. I will probably
>> check it again to make sure. The sensor appears to be no longer
>> available anywhere. Does anybody have one laying around they want to
>> part with?
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, I’m the vice president this year. I was president for a couple of 
years and the state dictates that you can’t hold the same office for a term of 
more than two years unless no one else will step up.

Yeah, those board members are real assh*les. I think my wife is sleeping with 
one of them.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:20 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Aren't you the president of the HOA? Look in the mirror and tell yourself to 
> p*ss off
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 20, 2019 2:58 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
> 
> Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil 
> stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] AC compressor engage signal on a euro 123 wagon

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> It is the older style unit with the vertical buttons in the middle.

That's the [Evil] Chrysler system, is it not?

http://formicapeak.com/~jimc/chryaccfh/chryaccfh.html

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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

There loosers trying to sale there cars

--FT
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> On Oct 20, 2019, at 4:28 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But it's so unusual. I've never come across it anywhere else but in used
> Mercedes ads.
> 
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 4:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Ignorance, it's rampant.
>> 
>> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:12 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
>> for themselves."
>> 
>> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Two b**rd since January 1?

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 4:21 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Aren't you the president of the HOA? Look in the mirror and tell yourself
> to p*ss off
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 20, 2019 2:58 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
>
> Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil
> stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.
>
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I think there are two MB stealers.  They are both young and have no clue how to 
service old cars.  I see their seeking employee adverts on CL all the time.  
The turnover there must be huge.  It is a family of small market new car 
floggers out of back water towns in Oregon, Idaho, and Alaska.  Around here 
they cover almost everything but the Chrysler/Chebby/Honda market.

I have gone to four of their outlets to attempt test drives since April.  Only 
once was the car actually on the lot.  And that was because it was stashed 
behind the building where all the recent trades await transport to the large 
detail/inspection warehouse.  Other times I was put into something I was not 
interested in on the lot.  May as well use the opportunity to play with fit and 
feel.  I am pretty sure they bait and switch to get people in and then end up 
just putting the things that do not get a bite into the auction yards.  There 
is a thriving secondary and third tier used car market in the state.

clay

> On Oct 20, 2019, at 11:58 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there an MB dealer in ANC? I presume there must be. Probably the only one 
> in the state.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> SWMBA is on auto purchase path for the jeep replacement, which means a 
>> ‘Yota, not this.  I made the mistake of mentioning the Daimler and was 
>> swiftly shut down.  Just as well, I have no tools or goodies to work on it, 
>> nor a heated space in ANC.
>> 
>> clay monroe
>> 
>>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what 
>>> I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> The paint is likely pretty dry so it will need some "love" to get it to
>>> shine properly... it has some damage places from sun and environment, with
>>> care I wager it would take a nice shine with "patina"...
>>> Lovely car... how is interior?
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:35 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 
 https://anchorage.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairbanks-1965-daimler-250-saloon/6989425931.html
 
 Nice enough project car that I could spiff up and put onto BaT
 
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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

But it's so unusual. I've never come across it anywhere else but in used
Mercedes ads.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019, 4:21 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Ignorance, it's rampant.
>
> On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:12 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.
> >
>
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Aren't you the president of the HOA? Look in the mirror and tell yourself to 
p*ss off


Rick

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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil 
stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.

-D

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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Ignorance, it's rampant.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 3:12 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.
>


-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[OK Don via Mercedes]

No, you should swab the entire drive with used oil so it all matches - then
no worries about future leaks.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 2:58 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil
> stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > strong work.  Go have a beer, you deserve one
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 10/20/19 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >> At least today I am….
> >>
> >> Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which
> were bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull
> the injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why
> they were leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it
> done.
> >>
> >> Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first
> and maybe 45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I
> chickened out. With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty
> confident they’re sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage afterwards,
> so we should be  good.
> >>
> >> As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in
> anticipation of having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector
> was disconnected. I plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting
> glow plugs bases on the light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a
> stone cold start.
> >>
> >> I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was
> going to break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on
> my hands. I followed the book and made sure everything was done as
> described and all went well - as it should have.
> >>
> >> Ah.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Meth is the drug of choice in rural areas -- sides of car are pretty shinny still

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Where does "shinny" come from? I see this a lot.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019, 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2637219549674876/
>
> 1983 Mercedes-Benz 300 SD
> Gaston, SC· about an hour ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2637219549674876/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $2,500
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 320,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Silver
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Good condition
> 
>
> Seller's Description
>
> 1983 Mercedes Benz 300sd, 321k Miles, sliver/blueish but paint is faded
> on hood and top is car, sides of car are pretty shinny still, runs and
> drives great, new motor mounts, new tires and alignment, interior is
> worn pretty good has newer front seats out of another Benz , new brake
> master cylinder, lights all work, has been a daily driver . $2500
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Re: [MBZ] wow

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

If he has records for annual services and rubber bit replacements, I suspect 
that is a good price.  18k miles in 30 years suggests fluids not getting 
attention if you are only driving 500 miles a year.  I have to force myself to 
do the annual servicing with only 2500 miles logged each season.  I put 8-10 
tanks of fuel through, that car is getting maybe 2 fillings per season.  Gummed 
up injectors and filters.   A good PPI will tell the tale



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> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/yadkinville-mercedes-benz-560-sl-1988/7001469725.html
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

Shipping would run $900+

It would need to go to auction to find a buyer, as the thing is rare enough to 
garner attention that way.  CL probably not going to find more than some scrap 
car buyer.  I have seen a few oddities that end up headed to the crusher more 
than I see them listed for sale.  The Daimler would need new interior by a pro, 
and the market for Jag derived cars in SEA is slack.  There are too many people 
there who want new stuff, not the older cars desiring rebuilds.  

Maybe I get $3k?

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> What's that worth on the mainland if you ferry it to Washington?
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

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Is there an MB dealer in ANC? I presume there must be. Probably the only one in 
the state.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> SWMBA is on auto purchase path for the jeep replacement, which means a ‘Yota, 
> not this.  I made the mistake of mentioning the Daimler and was swiftly shut 
> down.  Just as well, I have no tools or goodies to work on it, nor a heated 
> space in ANC.
> 
> clay monroe
> 
>> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
>> looking for didn't fall out.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> The paint is likely pretty dry so it will need some "love" to get it to
>> shine properly... it has some damage places from sun and environment, with
>> care I wager it would take a nice shine with "patina"...
>> Lovely car... how is interior?
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:35 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> https://anchorage.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairbanks-1965-daimler-250-saloon/6989425931.html
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>>> Nice enough project car that I could spiff up and put onto BaT
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, I’ve only had two this year. After I finish pressure washing the oil 
stains on the driveway so the HOA will get off my back.

-D


> On Oct 20, 2019, at 3:10 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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> 
> strong work.  Go have a beer, you deserve one
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 10/20/19 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> At least today I am….
>> 
>> Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which were 
>> bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull the 
>> injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why they 
>> were leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.
>> 
>> Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first and 
>> maybe 45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I 
>> chickened out. With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty 
>> confident they’re sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage afterwards, 
>> so we should be  good.
>> 
>> As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in anticipation 
>> of having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector was 
>> disconnected. I plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting glow 
>> plugs bases on the light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a stone 
>> cold start.
>> 
>> I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was going to 
>> break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on my hands. 
>> I followed the book and made sure everything was done as described and all 
>> went well - as it should have.
>> 
>> Ah.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Think this will buff out?

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

SWMBA is on auto purchase path for the jeep replacement, which means a ‘Yota, 
not this.  I made the mistake of mentioning the Daimler and was swiftly shut 
down.  Just as well, I have no tools or goodies to work on it, nor a heated 
space in ANC.

clay monroe

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> On Oct 18, 2019, at 10:15 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The paint is likely pretty dry so it will need some "love" to get it to
> shine properly... it has some damage places from sun and environment, with
> care I wager it would take a nice shine with "patina"...
> Lovely car... how is interior?
> 
> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 9:35 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> https://anchorage.craigslist.org/cto/d/fairbanks-1965-daimler-250-saloon/6989425931.html
>> 
>> Nice enough project car that I could spiff up and put onto BaT
>> 
>> clay
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

strong work.  Go have a beer, you deserve one

--FT

On 10/20/19 2:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

At least today I am….

Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which were 
bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull the 
injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why they were 
leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.

Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first and maybe 
45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I chickened out. 
With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty confident they’re 
sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage afterwards, so we should be  good.

As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in anticipation of 
having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector was disconnected. I 
plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting glow plugs bases on the 
light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a stone cold start.

I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was going to 
break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on my hands. I 
followed the book and made sure everything was done as described and all went 
well - as it should have.

Ah.

Dan
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[MBZ] I Am Living Right

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

At least today I am….

Did the injector reseal on #3 and #4 on the the W221, both of which were 
bubbling slightly. Fairly easy with the injector slide hammer to pull the 
injectors. The seats hadn’t been cut in years, which was probably why they were 
leaking. It took me a while to cut the seats flat, but I got it done.

Tightening the stretch bolts was scary. I got a 90 degree turn first and maybe 
45 degrees (spec is two 90 degree turns) on the second before I chickened out. 
With freshly cut seats and new copper washers I’m pretty confident they’re 
sealing well. A test drive yielded no leakage afterwards, so we should be  good.

As a bonus, I was poking around for the glow plug controller in anticipation of 
having to replace it and found that the big B+ connector was disconnected. I 
plugged it back in and it appears that we were getting glow plugs bases on the 
light. Tomorrow morning will tell for sure with a stone cold start.

I have been losing sleep over this job, paranoid that something was going to 
break like a hold down bolt and I would have a major repair job on my hands. I 
followed the book and made sure everything was done as described and all went 
well - as it should have.

Ah.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Thanks, what I was thinking

--FT

On 10/19/19 11:32 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

Yes the little suction fan is under the passenger side of the dash and the
tube runs up the A pillar and across. Apparently they disintegrate over
time. My little fan honked like a goose, but that noise was from under the
dash. If it is coming from the visor area it must be a suction phenomenon
related to the tube falling apart.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 7:52 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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It sounds like a kazoo. I’ll try to check it out

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Oct 19, 2019, at 9:54 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

The 126 had such an arrangement.  A hose from the blower sucked air past

the thermistor by the rear-view mirror.

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Subject: [MBZ] Buzzing sound in $600E320

There is this constant buzzing sound coming from up around the
mirror/lights/air sensor? thingie. I’m not sure what the little vent

thing does. Is

air sucked into it as a thermometer function?  It sorta sounds like it

could be

like that and there’s some constriction in it.

Or maybe some relays for the lights?

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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> Kaleb wrote:

> Did you use power or gel?  I am going to have the wife pick
> something up while she is in town.

I would expect the gel to dissolve quicker, but I don't really
know.  When I used powder, I mixed it with hot water (about a
gallon) to get it all dissolved before dumping it in.

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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

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> Kaleb wrote:

> What is a good method to use to degrease a cooling system?  Dawn
> dish soap and run it for a while then flush it out?  Cascade
> powder?

You probably don't want suds.  So I would not use Dawn.  Laundry
or dish washer soap should do nicely.

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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

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I used powder - dissolved it in water before pouring into the radiator.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 11:41 AM Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
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> Did you use power or gel?  I am going to have the wife pick something up
> while she is in town.
>
> On 10/20/2019 11:39 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> > Dishwashing and dishwasher detergents are not the same - one foams and
> the
> > other doesn't. I used Cascade several times in several OM6xx engines with
> > no bad effects.
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 8:32 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Do not use detergent, it will take at least an eon to get it to quit
> >> foaming (dishwashing detergents have foaming agents)
> >>
> >> Daskade, plain washing soda, or something similar.  Finish with a citric
> >> acid flush as noted, this will remove scale and rust as well.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] degrease cooling system

[Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes]

Did you use power or gel?  I am going to have the wife pick something up 
while she is in town.


On 10/20/2019 11:39 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Dishwashing and dishwasher detergents are not the same - one foams and the
other doesn't. I used Cascade several times in several OM6xx engines with
no bad effects.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Do not use detergent, it will take at least an eon to get it to quit
foaming (dishwashing detergents have foaming agents)

Daskade, plain washing soda, or something similar.  Finish with a citric
acid flush as noted, this will remove scale and rust as well.

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Re: [MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: degrease cooling system

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Dishwashing and dishwasher detergents are not the same - one foams and the
other doesn't. I used Cascade several times in several OM6xx engines with
no bad effects.

On Sun, Oct 20, 2019 at 8:32 AM Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Do not use detergent, it will take at least an eon to get it to quit
> foaming (dishwashing detergents have foaming agents)
>
> Daskade, plain washing soda, or something similar.  Finish with a citric
> acid flush as noted, this will remove scale and rust as well.
>
> Peter
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** Re: degrease cooling system

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Do not use detergent, it will take at least an eon to get it to quit foaming 
(dishwashing detergents have foaming agents)

Daskade, plain washing soda, or something similar.  Finish with a citric acid 
flush as noted, this will remove scale and rust as well.

Peter


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Re: [MBZ] AC compressor engage signal on a euro 123 wagon

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

OK thanks Curley. Will let you know how it goes.

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 9:04 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Mit Klima, or Sans Klima?If it has Klima, that is where you start.
> Klima relay fails often.
>
> Otherwise, I'd start at the plug closest to the clutch.   Likely if you
> have voltage there when the clutch should be engaged, the clutch coil is
> bad.   If no volts there, every case I have encountered has been a Klima
> relay gone over the hill.
>
> Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 10/19/19 9:33 PM:
> > OK hypothetically if I needed to pull the climate control signal for the
> > A/C compressor clutch off a euro 123 wagon control unit, where would I
> > begin looking for the signal?
> >
> > WDB 123 193 120 14388
> >
> > It is the older style unit with the vertical buttons in the middle. I
> guess
> > I need to do some reading on how these control units typically fail and
> how
> > to test/troubleshoot them.
> >
> > This motor is from a 2006 320 cdi, so it is a bit of a hybrid.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Karl
> >
> >
> >
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