Re: [MBZ] DEBT WUZ: (no subject)
Banker wants everything you own as collateral. Often done when you have more than one loan, like a home loan and a business loan, or a home and a car loan. Best way to steal a house in states where your home is protected in bankruptcy. I learned of it when our ins. agent went under in 1988. He was a great guy, Navy veteran, mid 50s at the time. They had 3 rental houses. tenants trashed one. THat started a cascade. He relinquished 4 houses to the bank. The Ins co. found out about it, and pulled his franchise. He was out with nothing to show for a lifetime of "doing things the right way." They rented from us for a while, then moved to PHX and ran a self storage place, on duty pretty much 24/7 in exchange for a place to live. He died a few years into it. I am sure his demise was greatly accelerated by the bank's actions. The collateral forfeited was far in excess of the loan. Craig via Mercedes wrote on 10/23/19 9:35 PM: On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:36:49 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: Also beware of blanket collateral. Banker thieves love them. If anything goes wrong, you will regret them for sure. Blanket collateral? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DEBT WUZ: (no subject)
On Wed, 23 Oct 2019 17:36:49 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote: > Also beware of blanket collateral. Banker thieves love them. If > anything goes wrong, you will regret them for sure. Blanket collateral? Craig ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
Andrew, we've owned this car since about 1996. It was originally purchased by a lady doctor when new and she kept it meaning to give it to one of her kids...but they didn't want it. Anyway, right before we got it from a small car lot, she had had it to the local MB dealership in Atlanta for a complete service (around $900 in 1996). We've taken it on numerous trips and my wife drove it daily to work for many years. Now that we are retired, it has been sitting mostly for the past several years. I'm getting ready to reactivate it with new brake lines, hoses, belts, valve adjustment just to start. Later, I plan a complete front suspension work, a new AC kit, and new rear axles. It will cost a little, but the car is still great inside (had the leather seats and pads replaced after we got it) and the body is solid. I replaced the transmission 2 years ago with one that had 95,000 miles on it. The engine starts quickly and it has great power. I installed new tires last year. It's a great road trip car and the mileage is good (28-30mpg). As I tell people, it's just getting broke in. I could see it going to a million. Thanks for asking and pardon my long reply. Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1967 W108 250SE on BAT
Pretty color - despite crank windows - and scarcity leads to bidding madness. These early 108 sedans are more rare than the 280SE sedans. https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1967-mercedes-benz-250se-6/?utm_source=dailymail&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019-10-23 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Thanks! Max Dillon Charleston SC Wed Oct 23 21:17:23 EDT 2019 Peter Frederick via Mercedes : > Jack up the wheel, lock the brakes, and apply significant force on the lug > bolts with a wrench. Any movement in the bushings other that plain rotation > will indicate wear. This works well for the rear links too, by the way. > > Crack in the rubber bushings or obvious dislocation from center or wobbly > steering not due to ball joints or tie rod ends (or drag link bushings) are > also an indication they are bad. > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Jack up the wheel, lock the brakes, and apply significant force on the lug bolts with a wrench. Any movement in the bushings other that plain rotation will indicate wear. This works well for the rear links too, by the way. Crack in the rubber bushings or obvious dislocation from center or wobbly steering not due to ball joints or tie rod ends (or drag link bushings) are also an indication they are bad. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] wretched ricebox WUZ: Re: (no subject)
I like that term: wretched ricebox Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote on 10/23/19 7:06 PM: why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Fear, and/or pride. Various proportions. The Mad Men should be proud... Works in our favor, because it makes an older Mercedes very affordable, often much cheaper than some wretched ricebox. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote on 10/23/19 7:06 PM: why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Fear, and/or pride. Various proportions. The Mad Men should be proud... Works in our favor, because it makes an older Mercedes very affordable, often much cheaper than some wretched ricebox. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
> why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Fear, and/or pride. Various proportions. The Mad Men should be proud... Works in our favor, because it makes an older Mercedes very affordable, often much cheaper than some wretched ricebox. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 380SL project car - $1500 (Charleston)
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/johns-island-1983-mercedes-380sl/7005266867.html Some of the most driving fun I've had was in the cheap 380SL. A large part of the enjoyment _was_ because it didn't cost much. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Beyond a visual check of the inner bushings, what other testing can be done? Max Dillon Charleston SC Wed Oct 23 19:45:15 EDT 2019 Peter Frederick via Mercedes : > Do the normal testing on inner pivots. If they are at all loose, it's easier > to replace the control arm complete if you have a means of getting the > alignment close enough to drive to an alignment shop. Otherwise, replacing > the inner bushings requires making a tool, they are swaged in place and can > be a pain. > > I've not replaced any of mine, even at 400k miles. Ball joints usually last > 200k or so, give or take a bit, but that depends on driving conditions and > the presence or absence of road salt. > > You will need a good, not a cheap, ball joint tool. The cheap one will > bend. > > Peter > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Do the normal testing on inner pivots. If they are at all loose, it's easier to replace the control arm complete if you have a means of getting the alignment close enough to drive to an alignment shop. Otherwise, replacing the inner bushings requires making a tool, they are swaged in place and can be a pain. I've not replaced any of mine, even at 400k miles. Ball joints usually last 200k or so, give or take a bit, but that depends on driving conditions and the presence or absence of road salt. You will need a good, not a cheap, ball joint tool. The cheap one will bend. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Debt WUZ: (no subject)
True, the buttercups are the entitlement generation. What you call the "I deserve it" generation is what I call the buttercup entitlement generation. Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote on 10/23/19 3:57 PM: $20k can buy a brand new car if you're willing to buy a base model. I chalk it up to the "I deserve it" culture where every penny earned ought to go right back out because "I deserve it." I mentioned to Angie the other day that I'd been thinking about buying a new snowmobile, the base model is right in the $8,000 range. She heard "I'm going to buy a new snowmobile" and wants to know why I haven't done it yet. She knows I can afford it but the reason I can afford it is that I've never done it... -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] DEBT WUZ: (no subject)
Because that is what they have been trained to do. Mostly by the media and advertising. I learned long ago to use the NEED test. Do I NEED this? Or do I merely want it? If it is a want, is there a cheaper alternative to achieve the same thing? Also beware of blanket collateral. Banker thieves love them. If anything goes wrong, you will regret them for sure. Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote on 10/23/19 3:10 PM: ... She is all about no payment. He is the fiscal fool in the relationship apparently. I dont know if a v8 w124 is the greatest kid hauler around, but it will only appreciate and one could surely do much worse. Even the headliner is new now, ignition switch, turn stalk, 2.82 diff, yada yada. I think it needs a new toe link in back because it is eating that tire, but my gosh - why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Death by a thousand cuts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
SWMBA thinks along those lines. New cars are “more reliable” so cost less to keep on the road. Steaming Pile She has not taken the thing she drives to the shop for other than oil changes in the past six years and 50k miles. Tossing $20k + paying it off all that time and no visit to keep it running right? She gets the jeep from her co-worker who claims it had all dealer service. The thing comes with close to 140k miles and gets no service these past four years. Now she wants to send it to the crusher, as it is falling apart from lack of service. The solution she came up with was to spend $10k to get a teenaged car with 100k on the clock last autumn. This spring she changes her tune to needing something with less than a decade of wear and maybe $18k. Which has changed to five years old, under 50k miles and maybe $25k this past month. This week the car has to be same new, but under 30k miles and the price has jumped to around $30k. Then add the $2500 to ship it up from teh lower 48. All I wanted was to be allowed to drive my ’82 SD, bring up my tools and spend enough to fix the OM617. clay > On Oct 23, 2019, at 12:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote > > Because, they are unable or unwilling to do any work on vehicles themselves, > and they fear the cost of having anything repaired in a shop. The feel, and > maybe rightly so, that they are better off with a new reliable car and > payments than they will be with an older car that needs upkeep on a regular > basis. If one cannot do the work and does not know enough to avoid being > robbed by repair shops, then one is truly at their mercy. A bad place to be. > > Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
The dark side does have cookies. The truly evil aspect is there is no mention that these same cookies will be shared with you. clay > On Oct 23, 2019, at 9:50 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes > wrote: > > Come to the dark side, we have cookies... > >On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 1:48:53 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Knowledge Is Power > > Power Corrupts > > Study Hard > > Be Evil > > --FT > > On 10/22/19 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Absolutely. As in absolute power corrupts. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 380SL project car - $1500 (Charleston)
I would put money on it. Heck, I have most of the parts it needs on my shelves right now. clay > On Oct 23, 2019, at 6:11 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes > wrote: > > Could be a decent beater or to fix up. Seems to be an actual honest ad! > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/johns-island-1983-mercedes-380sl/7005266867.html > > -- > --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Its on fire!
Pass. Dwight Giles Jr. Wickford RI On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 3:06 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > https://nh.craigslist.org/pts/d/keene-mercedes-ml500/6999101259.html > -Curt > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
$20k can buy a brand new car if you're willing to buy a base model. I chalk it up to the "I deserve it" culture where every penny earned ought to go right back out because "I deserve it." I mentioned to Angie the other day that I'd been thinking about buying a new snowmobile, the base model is right in the $8,000 range. She heard "I'm going to buy a new snowmobile" and wants to know why I haven't done it yet. She knows I can afford it but the reason I can afford it is that I've never done it... -Curt On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 4:45:06 PM EDT, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: I have a friend, a young woman, I saw last night who moved here from up north. She has some sort of Subaru that has bad rust. It’s not that old but she said it is basically shot on the underneath and all the exposed bits. Lot of stuff needs replacing. So she wants to get a “new” car but of course the cost is a big concern. I told her about this $600E320, really nice car now with some minimal work and expense. She says she and her husband can’t deal with that kind of stuff. So I say well buy 2 older cars that are fairly decent and you’ll have a spare around, will cost you less even with occasional repairs. She balked at that. So she’ll probably go spend $15-20k on something 3-4yo and will not like the monthly nut but will just deal with it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 23, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 23/10/2019 3:10 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >> Coworker's car got totalled in a hit and run. It was an older tiguan. Paid >> off, seven years old. So she is looking for transportation. >> >> I told her she could have the 90k 1994 e420 for 5k, and that her husband >> would be jealous because it is faster than his Audi. She was game, but his >> response was 1994? NO WAY. Of course his payment on a used audi is over >> 500/mo and the AC fan whines but is too expensive to fix. >> >> She is all about no payment. He is the fiscal fool in the relationship >> apparently. I dont know if a v8 w124 is the greatest kid hauler around, but >> it will only appreciate and one could surely do much worse. Even the >> headliner is new now, ignition switch, turn stalk, 2.82 diff, yada yada. I >> think it needs a new toe link in back because it is eating that tire, but >> my gosh > > > >> - why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? >> Death by a thousand cuts. >> > > Because, they are unable or unwilling to do any work on vehicles themselves, > and they fear the cost of having anything repaired in a shop. The feel, and > maybe rightly so, that they are better off with a new reliable car and > payments than they will be with an older car that needs upkeep on a regular > basis. If one cannot do the work and does not know enough to avoid being > robbed by repair shops, then one is truly at their mercy. A bad place to be. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
I have a friend, a young woman, I saw last night who moved here from up north. She has some sort of Subaru that has bad rust. It’s not that old but she said it is basically shot on the underneath and all the exposed bits. Lot of stuff needs replacing. So she wants to get a “new” car but of course the cost is a big concern. I told her about this $600E320, really nice car now with some minimal work and expense. She says she and her husband can’t deal with that kind of stuff. So I say well buy 2 older cars that are fairly decent and you’ll have a spare around, will cost you less even with occasional repairs. She balked at that. So she’ll probably go spend $15-20k on something 3-4yo and will not like the monthly nut but will just deal with it. --FT Sent from iPhone > On Oct 23, 2019, at 4:24 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes > wrote: > >> On 23/10/2019 3:10 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: >> Coworker's car got totalled in a hit and run. It was an older tiguan. Paid >> off, seven years old. So she is looking for transportation. >> >> I told her she could have the 90k 1994 e420 for 5k, and that her husband >> would be jealous because it is faster than his Audi. She was game, but his >> response was 1994? NO WAY. Of course his payment on a used audi is over >> 500/mo and the AC fan whines but is too expensive to fix. >> >> She is all about no payment. He is the fiscal fool in the relationship >> apparently. I dont know if a v8 w124 is the greatest kid hauler around, but >> it will only appreciate and one could surely do much worse. Even the >> headliner is new now, ignition switch, turn stalk, 2.82 diff, yada yada. I >> think it needs a new toe link in back because it is eating that tire, but >> my gosh > > > >> - why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? >> Death by a thousand cuts. >> > > Because, they are unable or unwilling to do any work on vehicles themselves, > and they fear the cost of having anything repaired in a shop. The feel, and > maybe rightly so, that they are better off with a new reliable car and > payments than they will be with an older car that needs upkeep on a regular > basis. If one cannot do the work and does not know enough to avoid being > robbed by repair shops, then one is truly at their mercy. A bad place to be. > > Randy > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
Randy nailed it, most people are very reluctant to own an older car as a daily driver. No sense of adventure! Max Dillon Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (no subject)
On 23/10/2019 3:10 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote: Coworker's car got totalled in a hit and run. It was an older tiguan. Paid off, seven years old. So she is looking for transportation. I told her she could have the 90k 1994 e420 for 5k, and that her husband would be jealous because it is faster than his Audi. She was game, but his response was 1994? NO WAY. Of course his payment on a used audi is over 500/mo and the AC fan whines but is too expensive to fix. She is all about no payment. He is the fiscal fool in the relationship apparently. I dont know if a v8 w124 is the greatest kid hauler around, but it will only appreciate and one could surely do much worse. Even the headliner is new now, ignition switch, turn stalk, 2.82 diff, yada yada. I think it needs a new toe link in back because it is eating that tire, but my gosh - why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Death by a thousand cuts. Because, they are unable or unwilling to do any work on vehicles themselves, and they fear the cost of having anything repaired in a shop. The feel, and maybe rightly so, that they are better off with a new reliable car and payments than they will be with an older car that needs upkeep on a regular basis. If one cannot do the work and does not know enough to avoid being robbed by repair shops, then one is truly at their mercy. A bad place to be. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
Where and how did you accumulate 420k miles? On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 4:08 PM ROGER HALE via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Thanks for the kind words on my wife's car. I'm getting ready to do some > much needed normal maintenance. And no Andrew, it would take a lot more > than $500. It only has around 420,000 miles and on dino oil no less. > Thanks again, > Roger > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] (no subject)
Coworker's car got totalled in a hit and run. It was an older tiguan. Paid off, seven years old. So she is looking for transportation. I told her she could have the 90k 1994 e420 for 5k, and that her husband would be jealous because it is faster than his Audi. She was game, but his response was 1994? NO WAY. Of course his payment on a used audi is over 500/mo and the AC fan whines but is too expensive to fix. She is all about no payment. He is the fiscal fool in the relationship apparently. I dont know if a v8 w124 is the greatest kid hauler around, but it will only appreciate and one could surely do much worse. Even the headliner is new now, ignition switch, turn stalk, 2.82 diff, yada yada. I think it needs a new toe link in back because it is eating that tire, but my gosh - why are people so keen to go into debt on depreciating assets? Death by a thousand cuts. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 12:55 PM Karl Wittnebel wrote: > I drive right past BH mercedes twice a day so it is a natural option and > making two trips is easy. > > Of course aftermarket is often best, so it doesnt help for that stuff. > > Tom Hanson gives a nice wholesale discount and ships of course and is very > responsive. > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I haven't tried that, but in the past when I've gone in to our local >> dealer, which is a long drive on the other side of town, their deal was >> pay >> in advance and then make another trip later when the parts arrive to pick >> them up. >> >> No thanks is my reply to that deal, my time is more valuable, I'd rather >> order on line and have them delivered to my home, and the price is usually >> better. >> >> If they were closer or on my usual commute route, I might go down that >> path >> and develop a nice relationship (Dan told me all his secrets, among them >> are pizza and donut deliveries) but given the geography as it stands, not >> worth it to me. >> >> Dealer recently opened a branch location just a few miles away, very >> convenient, I need to stop by and see if they have a parts desk. >> >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> > Just print out the part list with all the prices from whatever website >> you >> > like, walk into the dealer and tell them you want these parts and will >> they >> > match the price. They arent going to say no. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > > Or just get your local dealer to match the discount and dont pay any >> > > shipping at all. >> > > >> > > Good luck with that. >> > > That is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. >> > > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in >> > parts, >> > > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. >> > > >> > > >> > > Rick >> > > ___ >> > > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > > >> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > >> > > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> > >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
Thanks for the kind words on my wife's car. I'm getting ready to do some much needed normal maintenance. And no Andrew, it would take a lot more than $500. It only has around 420,000 miles and on dino oil no less. Thanks again, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
I drive right past BH mercedes twice a day so it is a natural option and making two trips is easy. Of course aftermarket is often best, so it doesnt help for that stuff. Tom Hanson gives a nice wholesale discount and ships of course and is very responsive. On Wed, Oct 23, 2019, 12:07 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I haven't tried that, but in the past when I've gone in to our local > dealer, which is a long drive on the other side of town, their deal was pay > in advance and then make another trip later when the parts arrive to pick > them up. > > No thanks is my reply to that deal, my time is more valuable, I'd rather > order on line and have them delivered to my home, and the price is usually > better. > > If they were closer or on my usual commute route, I might go down that path > and develop a nice relationship (Dan told me all his secrets, among them > are pizza and donut deliveries) but given the geography as it stands, not > worth it to me. > > Dealer recently opened a branch location just a few miles away, very > convenient, I need to stop by and see if they have a parts desk. > > - > Max > Charleston SC > > > On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Just print out the part list with all the prices from whatever website > you > > like, walk into the dealer and tell them you want these parts and will > they > > match the price. They arent going to say no. > > > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Or just get your local dealer to match the discount and dont pay any > > > shipping at all. > > > > > > Good luck with that. > > > That is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. > > > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in > > parts, > > > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. > > > > > > > > > Rick > > > ___ > > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
I haven't tried that, but in the past when I've gone in to our local dealer, which is a long drive on the other side of town, their deal was pay in advance and then make another trip later when the parts arrive to pick them up. No thanks is my reply to that deal, my time is more valuable, I'd rather order on line and have them delivered to my home, and the price is usually better. If they were closer or on my usual commute route, I might go down that path and develop a nice relationship (Dan told me all his secrets, among them are pizza and donut deliveries) but given the geography as it stands, not worth it to me. Dealer recently opened a branch location just a few miles away, very convenient, I need to stop by and see if they have a parts desk. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 2:38 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Just print out the part list with all the prices from whatever website you > like, walk into the dealer and tell them you want these parts and will they > match the price. They arent going to say no. > > On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > > > Or just get your local dealer to match the discount and dont pay any > > shipping at all. > > > > Good luck with that. > > That is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. > > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in > parts, > > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. > > > > > > Rick > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Its on fire!
https://nh.craigslist.org/pts/d/keene-mercedes-ml500/6999101259.html -Curt ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
Mine did. "We can't match that price!". Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: October 23, 2019 1:38 PM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com Cc: atypical...@gmail.com; rickkno...@hotmail.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck Just print out the part list with all the prices from whatever website you like, walk into the dealer and tell them you want these parts and will they match the price. They arent going to say no. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Or just get your local dealer to match the discount and dont pay any > shipping at all. > > Good luck with that. > That is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in parts, > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
Just print out the part list with all the prices from whatever website you like, walk into the dealer and tell them you want these parts and will they match the price. They arent going to say no. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019, 9:25 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Or just get your local dealer to match the discount and dont pay any > shipping at all. > > Good luck with that. > That is difficult. Not impossible, but difficult. > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in parts, > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. > > > Rick > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
Come to the dark side, we have cookies... On Wednesday, October 23, 2019, 1:48:53 PM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote: Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil --FT On 10/22/19 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: > Absolutely. As in absolute power corrupts. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
Knowledge Is Power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil --FT On 10/22/19 7:40 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Absolutely. As in absolute power corrupts. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I Am Living Right
In a word - tyranny. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 7:41 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Absolutely. As in absolute power corrupts. > > The really egregious examples are the associations that are run by the > retirees who have nothing but time on their hands and an axe to burn with > the neighbor they hate the most or is out of favor that day/week. Those are > the worst. > > -D > > > > On Oct 22, 2019, at 10:38 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The key there is "properly run"There has only been one perfect > human. THe rest all have foibles. Some (quite a few) are power hungry. > > > > Dan--- via Mercedes wrote on 10/22/19 5:26 AM: > >> And here is an example of inappropriate control in an HOA. > >> > >> Our design criteria is clearly defined as far as materials and > construction, much of which is dictated by County ordinance, not HOA > bylaws. The president doesn’t have a say in things like this, they’re > addressed by the ACC (architectural control committee) who approves or > denies applications for such things solely on compliance with community > standards and nothing else. Our president may not like something, but > that’s their tough beans as they have no say in matters as an individual > Board member. > >> > >> That being said, since your patio/deck cover is in the rear of the home > and not visible from the street, we wouldn’t much care what/how you did it > as long as it was in compliance with County codes, which is between you and > the County. > >> > >> This is an example where a properly run HOA doesn’t get intrusive. > >> > >> -D > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
Selling it for > $500? On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 10:42 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I sure did enjoy it. What a beautiful car! > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:36 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > Hi guys, my wife thought you might enjoy this short video of her 1980 > 300SD. > > > > Enjoy, > > > > Roger > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be > > > > > > > > Roger Hale > > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > > Monroe, Ga. > > 770-267-0850 > > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] World series
What's wrong with Nats - Astros? The first game was a classic. On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 11:57 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > It looked like we might have had a(n official*) world series this > year. But it is not to be. I was hoping for yankees/cardinals. (Best > team money can buy vs best team beer can buy) > > * The term Official World Series was minted by Pulitzer Prize winning > cartoonist, Frank Miller. I particularly remember his 1976 cartoon > proclaiming an Official World Series. "An official world series looms > on the horizon" > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
I’ll have to check, but I don’t think I got dinged for state tax on my last FCP Euro order. Hmmm. -D > On Oct 23, 2019, at 7:25 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> On October 22, 2019 at 10:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> >> And pay local sales taxes. That’s 8% where I live. > > If the online guys had 200 sales in your state last year, you're paying taxes. > > Mitch. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CDI injector job
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8oaEYjcqsc -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
They are sealed, don't think I can get them with grease fitting. Max Dillon Charleston SC Wed Oct 23 11:18:46 EDT 2019 Randy Bennell via Mercedes : > Are these the sealed type? Can you get ball joints with grease fittings > to that you can add grease? > > Randy who does not think you got poor service out of this set > > On 23/10/2019 10:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: > >> Lasted ~120k miles and 9 years of driving. >> >> Is that a decent service life? I'm thinking that they were Lemforder, have >> to look and see if I have records. Also need to decide if I want to just >> replace the ball joints or go all the way with complete lower control arm >> with new joints and new inner bushings. >> - >> Max >> Charleston SC >> >> > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Are these the sealed type? Can you get ball joints with grease fittings to that you can add grease? Randy who does not think you got poor service out of this set On 23/10/2019 10:07 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote: Lasted ~120k miles and 9 years of driving. Is that a decent service life? I'm thinking that they were Lemforder, have to look and see if I have records. Also need to decide if I want to just replace the ball joints or go all the way with complete lower control arm with new joints and new inner bushings. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 380SL project car - $1500 (Charleston)
That's on your side of town, so I'll give you the honor of giving it a new home. - Max Charleston SC On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 10:12 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Could be a decent beater or to fix up. Seems to be an actual honest ad! > > > https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/johns-island-1983-mercedes-380sl/7005266867.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 124 front ball joints - seems like I just did this job
Lasted ~120k miles and 9 years of driving. Is that a decent service life? I'm thinking that they were Lemforder, have to look and see if I have records. Also need to decide if I want to just replace the ball joints or go all the way with complete lower control arm with new joints and new inner bushings. - Max Charleston SC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
I sure did enjoy it. What a beautiful car! Sent from my iPhone > On Oct 23, 2019, at 10:36 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes > wrote: > > Hi guys, my wife thought you might enjoy this short video of her 1980 300SD. > > Enjoy, > > Roger > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be > > > > Roger Hale > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > Monroe, Ga. > 770-267-0850 > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1980 300SD
Hi guys, my wife thought you might enjoy this short video of her 1980 300SD. Enjoy, Roger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300SD
Beautiful car! --FT On 10/23/19 10:36 AM, ROGER HALE via Mercedes wrote: Hi guys, my wife thought you might enjoy this short video of her 1980 300SD. Enjoy, Roger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTnBWazhKWo&feature=youtu.be Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] could be a perfect daily or slam it and show it off
while smoking your crack https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/707252763111689/ -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1983 Mercedes 380SL project car - $1500 (Charleston)
Could be a decent beater or to fix up. Seems to be an actual honest ad! https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/johns-island-1983-mercedes-380sl/7005266867.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
> On October 22, 2019 at 10:44 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > > And pay local sales taxes. That’s 8% where I live. If the online guys had 200 sales in your state last year, you're paying taxes. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] buying parts is starting to suck
> On October 23, 2019 at 12:24 AM Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > I was able to talk them into 10% after my first thousand dollars in parts, > and 20% after twenty five hundred in parts. I just order online. If you're keeping 2-4 well sorted cars on the road for your family, it feels like you buy a lot but to the dealer you aren't worth a wholesale account. If you're restoring a couple cars a year you might get there. BTW, whatever happened to Northlake? Do they not want to be a top ten seller of MBNA parts any more? Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Online dealer websites
Thanks Dan, good info! - Max Charleston SC On Tue, Oct 22, 2019 at 8:05 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > This is a writeup by Dave Meiman, who runs the “Daveslist” hosted on > Okiebenz. For those of you who don’t know Dave, he’s a very data-driven > sort of guy and this is one of the best explanations of dealer discounts > and pricing there is, I think: > > -D > > > Begin forwarded message: > > > > Subject: Online dealer websites > > Date: October 22, 2019 at 7:48:12 PM EDT > > To: "d...@penoff.com" > > > > Summary below. Some of the info may be out of date. All the dealers are > using the RevolutionParts platform now, I don't know of any Trademotion > sites which are still active: > > > > ___ > > > > I buy primarily from Husker, and occasionally from Naperville if the > free shipping makes it worth it. I also buy from my local dealership, I > talked to them years ago about giving me a price break and I pay list minus > 17% (approximately), plus tax. For oversize or overweight items, or fragile > items that could be damaged in shipping, this is better than buying online. > I used to buy exclusively from the local dealer in the mid-oughts until all > the online places started popping up circa 2011-2012. > > > > WARNING: None of these web sites will show actual part availability. > Inventory is tracked in an MB dealer system called Paragon (aka > Parts-r-gone). The only way to find out if a part is available for purchase > is to call a dealer and have them check stock both in USA warehouses, and > also Germany. Or, place an order, and if a part is not available they'll > remove it from your order and refund your $$$. Plan on 10-14 day delivery > from when the order is placed, especially if the item has to come from a > Germany warehouse. If all parts are in USA (or in stock at the dealer), you > could receive the items in <7 days, but it's best to expect 2 weeks and be > happy if the order arrives early. > > > > Some dealers will update their sites for particular part numbers when a > certain part is permanent NLA (ex: 124-540-31-30 shows as "Discontinued > Part" at Husker) but not many do this. Also, some show "Not for sale" on > items they will not ship, like Group 49 batteries (005-541-10-01). > > > > Sample part numbers with abnormally low dealer cost (half of list), to > check for 'cost plus' pricing: > > 124-811-04-61 - W124 mirror boot (right) > > 129-820-02-56 - 500E bumper fog light (right) > > 124-820-56-66 - E320 Euro headlight lens (right) > > 140-880-05-83 - S600 grille assembly > > > > 304032-010003 - Freakishly low dealer cost. List = $2.20, cost = $0.39 ?? > > __ > > > > NOTE: Sample $100 part pricing is based on standard pricing (wholesale > $80, dealer cost $60). Some parts have non-standard pricing such as tools, > remanufactured transmissions/engines, accessory items (B-, Q-, or BQ- > prefix). Certain lighting items/brands (i.e,., Hella ) have lower than > normal dealer cost which can make the "cost plus" dealers substantially > cheaper than "list minus". > > > > > > > > "Variable" price dealers > > __ > > > > MB of Portland, OR > > Cost plus 14% on expensive items ($500+ list), +15%@ $201, +16% @ > ~$101, +19% @ ~$50, +23% @ ~$30, slides down to +26% on cheap items (few > dollars) > > > https://www.mbpartspros.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156 > < > https://www.mbpartspros.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156 > > > > > > MB of Stevens Creek (San Jose, CA) > > Cost plus 14% on expensive items ($500+ list), +17% at ~$100, +22% at > $50, slides down to +30% on cheap items (few dollars) > > > https://www.mercedesbenzstarparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156/ > < > https://www.mercedesbenzstarparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156/ > > > > > > MB of Daytona Beach (FL) > > Cost plus 15% on expensive items ($200+ list), +17% at ~$100, +23% at > ~$50, slides down to +30% on cheap items (few dollars) > > > https://www.mercedespartshub.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156/ > < > https://www.mercedespartshub.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156/ > > > > > > > > > > > > "Fixed" price dealers > > __ > > > > Mercedes-Benz of Scottsdale, AZ (New site 2019, was OEMMercedesBenzParts > in 2018) > > > https://www.mbpartscenter.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156 > < > https://www.mbpartscenter.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156 > > > > Cost plus 12% ($100 part = $67.20) <-- As of Sept-2019. > > > > RBM of Alpharetta, GA > > List minus 30% ($100 part = $70) > > > https://www.genuinemercedesparts.com/oem-parts/mercedes-benz-fog-lamp-assembly-1298200156 > < > https://www.genuine
