date:20191227

#1 daughter just walked in.  She cleaned out one pop shop in Columbia, 
NC (reportedly) of all the Maisel's Weisse they had!  2 6pks of 
hefeweisen in merkun 12 oz bottles, 3 half liters of dunkel and 3 half 
liters of crystal.


We'll have a tasting manaña!

been 16.5 yrs since I had any!

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

> > > fmiser wrote:
> > >
> > > If you care about things like security updates, you don't
> > > really have an option.  In a few weeks, Win7 is being
> > > dropped by Microsoft.

> > Curley wrote:
> >
> > means little other than winders defender will die.

> Craig wrote:
> 
> So if Windows Defender is the only thing which will go out of
> date, will having a good third party antivirus/etc. be the
> ticket?

If you use the computer on the internet, you can take your
chances.  The folks hacking system and encrypting them and holding
the data hostage is a real threat.  That is what my friend who
knows and uses MSWin says.  One of the things he does is fix the
systems (re-install) so infected.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

That is all I saw when M$ "killed XP"   I'm still running xp with 
avast.   I've seen no problems, but then I don't receive email, so no 
phishing on any xp machine.   It would have to be a hard targeted hack, 
and no reason for anyone to do that.



Craig via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 8:30 PM
On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:49:16 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes

So if Windows Defender is the only thing which will go out of date,
will having a good third party antivirus/etc. be the ticket?


Craig


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 16:07:52 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What's a sub or ship reactor put out?  A few megawatts?   Ah, here the 
> wikis tell us:
>
> While land-based *reactors* in *nuclear power plants* produce up to 
> around 1600 megawatts of electrical power, a typical marine propulsion 
> *reactor* produces no more than a few hundred megawatts. Space 
> considerations dictate that a marine *reactor* must be physically
> small, so it must generate higher power per unit of space.

There was a discussion of the floating Russian reactor ship on my other
email list:

 The US Navy already has nuclear powered ships that can produce
 many times the electrical power that the new Russian ship does.

 Gerald R. Ford class aircraft carriers use the new A1B reactors
 from Bechtel which reportedly produce enough steam to generate
 125 megawatts (168,000 hp) of electricity, plus 350,000 shaft
 horsepower (260 MW) to power the four propeller shafts.  Each
 aircraft carrier has two of these, and they will run for twenty
 years before needing to be refueled.

> A few hundred MW might be too much for the AK outback, but I'm sure
> they could be derated to something more reasonable for the loads.  Plus
> you get steam and hot water from cooling which might be nice to heat 
> buildings with.  A nuke package cogen plant?

Yes.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 19:49:16 -0600 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> means little other than winders defender will die.
> 
> > fmiser via Mercedes 
> > December 27, 2019 at 7:26 PM
> >
> > If you care about things like security updates, you don't really
> > have an option.  In a few weeks, Win7 is being dropped by
> > Microsoft.

So if Windows Defender is the only thing which will go out of date,
will having a good third party antivirus/etc. be the ticket?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

> Mitch wrote:

> +14F is pretty much the safe minimum for a Leaf battery. 

14F = -10C.  So -17C is quite a bit colder.  About 1F.

> How many hours of daylight are you getting in AK this week?

Today I saw sunrise 8:08, set 5:13, duration 9:05.

Official daylight - with the sun above the horizon?  Or the sky
isn't dark?  Sunrise and sunset get really long as you get closer
to the poles.  For PV electric generation, true sunrise and sunset
may be valid.  But for "it's dark outside", civil or nautical
twilight is probably more viable.

In Lansing, the length of daylight is just over an hour more when
including civil twilight and a bit over 2 hours if it includes
nautical twilight.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

> Clay wrote:

> Seattle is getting around 8 hours
> 
> Anchorage the sun went up after 1014 and will be down and dark
> 1530.   Most of that time is twilight.  yeah, the YA vampire
> thing.  It does get better, as the light will get above
> nightlite bright at almost 15 minutes a day.

Twilight is when the sky is not dark, but the sun is not above the
horizon.   10:14 to 15:30 does not include twilight.

Civil twilight adds 2 hours to the 5:30 of daylight in Anchorage.

Nautical twilight adds another 2 hours.

So 5.5 hours of direct sun (if the horizons are visible) and 9.5
hours of it being bright enough to see what you are about to bump
into when walking.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7


means little other than winders defender will die.


fmiser via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 7:26 PM

Larry wrote:
Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread
about downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.
But I was wondering if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing
would be helped in any way or am I just wasting time.

If you care about things like security updates, you don't really
have an option.  In a few weeks, Win7 is being dropped by
Microsoft.




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Re: [MBZ] 1963 Mercedes Unimog 404 - collectibles - by owner - sale


$600 maybe...


Kevin Kraly via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 7:16 PM
Anyone up for a Mog project??

https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/clt/d/husum-1963-mercedes-unimog-404/7045315127.html
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 192 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

I had to move ours to 10.13 also.  I was not happy about it, but so far 
no different than 10.11, only some websites quit whining about safari 
being out of date and not supported.   Now the tables are turned, and it 
is apfel who forces you to update and arbitrarily tells you your 
hardware is not good, even though the new computers sell with 
essentially the same processors; while microshaft arbitrarily quits 
supporting an OS, but does not prevent you from running it on a 
machine.  RIght now I think M$ does a better job of supporting older 
hdw, than apfel.   Bah!  Fie on them all!



Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 6:53 PM
I've found an SSD will speed boot times and precious little else but 
then again I tend to have access to pretty high end drives.
Some of my customers claim Win10 is considerably faster than 7. I'm 
not a fan but due to end of support I'm moving my classrooms to 
it.Rather than using the start menu in 10 I just hit the windows key 
and start typing what I want. It finds it way faster than I could go 
through the bloated start menu.
Sadly MacOS really isn't any better. I had to update my Mac Pro to 
High Sierra to get away from the reboot bug and it just won't shut up 
about going to Mojave. Actually I'm surprised it still wants me to go 
to Mojave and not Catalina...

-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] 1963 Mercedes Unimog 404 - collectibles - by owner - sale



Project is putting it lightly.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 27, 2019 8:17:18 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes :

> Anyone up for a Mog project??
> 
> https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/clt/d/husum-1963-mercedes-unimog-404/7045315127.html
> Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 192 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 06 MB E350 W211 w/electr issue

Major juice draw with ign off is alternator, in my experience.   No easy 
fix, change alternator.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 6:55 AM
yeah, there are 3 fuse boxes I know of - trunk, engine compart, near 
drivers seat.  There are also a number of what I think are relays near 
the battery/spare tire in the trunk.  I have a MB workshop manual and 
as usual,  it takes a while to learn how to navigate it. I'm still 
learning.


re Aux Battery - yep, replaced it with no change.  The dash display 
shows a battery symbol  and something saying it needs to be serviced.  
I need to buy a proper battery for the trunk and retest everything.  
At one point I had a fully charged battery and all the comfort extras 
seemed to wake up and the tranny and everything else worked as they 
should - things like cruise control, and some other things I don't 
recall at the moment.  I haven't been able to spend time chasing 
problems properly recently but hope to get a correct primary battery 
and check things more completely.


It's a beautiful car and the engine runs great even with the CEL on. 
Had that checked and there is a common problem with the balance shaft. 
Spoke with two techs at MB and both said the same thing - spending 
$3-$5K on a engine rebuild (MB prices).  They have had customers who 
did have the engine repaired, reinstalled and couldn't tell a 
difference in the way the engine behaved.  It seems the only thing 
different was the CEL was off.  SO I'm not worried about the engine.  
The AT is different.  It has 2 driving modes: Sport and Comfort which 
are accessed using a button on the console.  Much of the time 
recently, it was impossible to change modes.  Also, to put it in Park, 
you must turn the ign off to remove the key.


Cudo's to MB for extending the warranty +20 or 25 years (!) for the 
fuel system.  When we had fuel smell they replaced everything around 
the fuel tank - pumps, filters, etc.


Let's see, what else?  When the AT goes bonkers, it will not shift out 
of 2nd making the engine run much higher than normal rpm's.  Not a 
major flaw IMO but my wife is uncomfortable with such things ;-) Since 
she's the primary driver I need to cater to her needs. Anyway, Battery 
1st, then we'll see.  But I fear the Alternator may be the reason for 
the short causing the battery to drain quickly. But I need to jack the 
car up so I can crawl under and disconnect a wire then test for the 
power drain before I'll know.


Thx for the comments  --

LarryT
06 E350  (from a perfect MB - exc for that little rust problem ;-) to 
one with major problems)  Duh...






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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland



Here you go Andrew, watch the whole thing, it is in there somewhere.

https://youtu.be/mtHreJbr2WM



> On Friday, December 27, 2019, 4:07:15 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> Sounds like complete and utter BS/propaganda. Provide a peer reviewed
> article to that effect please.
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 4:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
> >
> > I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th
> > parallel were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production
> > and installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of
> > the other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace
> > electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of
> > CO2 released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north
> > of 35 degrees.
> >
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
>

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

> Larry wrote:

> Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread
> about downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.
> But I was wondering if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing
> would be helped in any way or am I just wasting time.

If you care about things like security updates, you don't really
have an option.  In a few weeks, Win7 is being dropped by
Microsoft.

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[MBZ] 1963 Mercedes Unimog 404 - collectibles - by owner - sale

2019-12-27 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes

Anyone up for a Mog project??

https://portland.craigslist.org/grg/clt/d/husum-1963-mercedes-unimog-404/7045315127.html
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
2019 Sprinter 192 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

 I've found an SSD will speed boot times and precious little else but then 
again I tend to have access to pretty high end drives.
Some of my customers claim Win10 is considerably faster than 7. I'm not a fan 
but due to end of support I'm moving my classrooms to it.Rather than using the 
start menu in 10 I just hit the windows key and start typing what I want. It 
finds it way faster than I could go through the bloated start menu.
Sadly MacOS really isn't any better. I had to update my Mac Pro to High Sierra 
to get away from the reboot bug and it just won't shut up about going to 
Mojave. Actually I'm surprised it still wants me to go to Mojave and not 
Catalina...
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 7:35:09 PM EST, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 In my experience, a SSD is the easiest way to speed up a PC,

I had 3 PCs (2 notebooks and a desktop) still running Win 7.  The desktop and 
one (newer) notebook upgraded to Win 10 just fine.  The older notebook was 
incompatible in some way and defaulted back to Win 7 (and still runs fine in 
7).  

I'd recommend trying the free Win 10 upgrade.  Worst case it goes back to Win 
7.  Without security fixes, orphan Win 7 systems may (or may not) become a 
serious security problem in the future.  Why take the chance?

You may (like me) dislike the Win 10 start menu.  If that's the case, try 
"Classic Shell" which provides a (customizable) Win 7-like start menu.

Scott

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> Larry Turner via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 27, 2019 4:54 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Larry Turner 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7
> 
> Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread about
> downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.  But I was wondering
> if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing would be helped in any way or am I
> just wasting time.  It has a 2TB HDD  but the processor should probably be
> upgraded.  Anyway, suggestions?
> 
> LarryT
> 06 E350
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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland


Andy knows that has no influence on solar lektrick production.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 6:44 PM
Are you forgetting maybe that in the far north its dark half the 
time?Not just "poor solar" dark but "can't see because its perpetually 
nighttime" dark.


-Curt



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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

 The payback on solar hot water is way better than photovoltaic. Last I 
read photovoltaic was 25 years, solar hot water is like 5.My 5 year plan 
includes us replacing the boiler in the house and adding solar hot water.
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 7:32:06 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Almost every house on Oahu has passive solar water heating, or at least 
they did 1988-1993.   On the other islands, it was hit or miss.  Mostly 
not.  Those living offgrid (mostly NOT  on Oahu) had solar water heating 
and some form of generation.

> Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
> December 27, 2019 at 4:31 PM
> There is much discussion of how to power the tiny villages and such up 
> there. Very few places are close enough to make sense putting out much 
> power, as the cost to run wires is huge compared to how much demand 
> for wattage there is. I think Kodiak has almost enough demand 
> (powering three other population centers) to make 25 megawatt. That is 
> rather large. Nome has a demand around 8MW and powers a few villages 
> down about 10 miles of wire in a few directions.
>
> The Alaskan villagers really need to either step back from western 
> luxury, or invest heavily in CO2 producing generation. Trouble is, 
> fuel flies in or comes on a barge. Very expensive to live in the lap 
> of western tech goodness in such a desolate place. Much more 
> reasonable to be on a sheep station in the outback. At least you have 
> sun, it is warm, and all you need is to keep the beer cold.
>
>
> clay
>
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

 Heh, you're almost a full hour behind us. Interesting to be on the extreme 
edges of the same time zone. 

-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 6:00:34 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 +14F is pretty much the safe minimum for a Leaf battery. 
They have emergency heaters but no battery cooling, at least they didn't have 
battery cooling a few years ago. 

How many hours of daylight are you getting in AK this week?
Today I saw sunrise 8:08, set 5:13, duration 9:05.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

 Are you forgetting maybe that in the far north its dark half the time?Not just 
"poor solar" dark but "can't see because its perpetually nighttime" dark.

-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 4:07:15 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Sounds like complete and utter BS/propaganda.  Provide a peer reviewed
article to that effect please.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 4:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th
> parallel were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production
> and installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of
> the other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace
> electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of
> CO2 released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north
> of 35 degrees.
>
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

 Problem is I haven't been able to find a part number on the alternator and its 
an odd application so I haven't been able to look it up. The book that came 
with the ASV just calls it "Alternator, 120A"
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 5:49:01 PM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 yeah, it may be better to just get a reman alternator.

> OK Don via Mercedes 
> December 27, 2019 at 11:38 AM
> dirty/burnt commutator can also give the same symptoms, though that 
> usually
> is the result of worn brushes ...
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

2019-12-27 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes

In my experience, a SSD is the easiest way to speed up a PC,

I had 3 PCs (2 notebooks and a desktop) still running Win 7.  The desktop and 
one (newer) notebook upgraded to Win 10 just fine.  The older notebook was 
incompatible in some way and defaulted back to Win 7 (and still runs fine in 
7).  

I'd recommend trying the free Win 10 upgrade.  Worst case it goes back to Win 
7.  Without security fixes, orphan Win 7 systems may (or may not) become a 
serious security problem in the future.   Why take the chance?

You may (like me) dislike the Win 10 start menu.  If that's the case, try 
"Classic Shell" which provides a (customizable) Win 7-like start menu.

Scott

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> Cc: Larry Turner 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7
> 
> Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread about
> downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.  But I was wondering
> if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing would be helped in any way or am I
> just wasting time.  It has a 2TB HDD  but the processor should probably be
> upgraded.  Anyway, suggestions?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

Almost every house on Oahu has passive solar water heating, or at least 
they did 1988-1993.   On the other islands, it was hit or miss.  Mostly 
not.  Those living offgrid (mostly NOT  on Oahu) had solar water heating 
and some form of generation.



Clay Monroe via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 4:31 PM
There is much discussion of how to power the tiny villages and such up 
there. Very few places are close enough to make sense putting out much 
power, as the cost to run wires is huge compared to how much demand 
for wattage there is. I think Kodiak has almost enough demand 
(powering three other population centers) to make 25 megawatt. That is 
rather large. Nome has a demand around 8MW and powers a few villages 
down about 10 miles of wire in a few directions.


The Alaskan villagers really need to either step back from western 
luxury, or invest heavily in CO2 producing generation. Trouble is, 
fuel flies in or comes on a barge. Very expensive to live in the lap 
of western tech goodness in such a desolate place. Much more 
reasonable to be on a sheep station in the outback. At least you have 
sun, it is warm, and all you need is to keep the beer cold.



clay




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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

THe propaganda when Los10 was new was that it would make older machines 
run faster.  I doubt it is true now as they continue to add layers of 
patches and bloatware. Most the type and generation of processor, speed, 
and amount of RAM and the brains here can help more.



Larry Turner via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 3:54 PM
Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread about 
downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.  But I was 
wondering if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing would be helped 
in any way or am I just wasting time.  It has a 2TB HDD  but the 
processor should probably be upgraded.  Anyway, suggestions?


LarryT


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

THey just need to buy a mothballed nuke sub from uncle.   Pull it up  to 
a pier  and run power lines ashore.



Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 3:07 PM
What's a sub or ship reactor put out?  A few megawatts?   Ah, here the 
wikis tell us:


While land-based *reactors* in *nuclear power plants* produce up to 
around 1600 megawatts of electrical power, a typical marine propulsion 
*reactor* produces no more than a few hundred megawatts. Space 
considerations dictate that a marine *reactor* must be physically 
small, so it must generate higher power per unit of space.


A few hundred MW might be too much for the AK outback, but I'm sure 
they could be derated to something more reasonable for the loads.  
Plus you get steam and hot water from cooling which might be nice to 
heat buildings with.  A nuke package cogen plant?


--FT




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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

Seattle is getting around 8 hours

Anchorage the sun went up after 1014 and will be down and dark 1530.   Most of 
that time is twilight.  yeah, the YA vampire thing.  It does get better, as the 
light will get above nightlite bright at almost 15 minutes a day.


clay monroe

> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for what I'm 
> looking for didn't fall out.



> On Dec 27, 2019, at 2:59 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> +14F is pretty much the safe minimum for a Leaf battery. 
> They have emergency heaters but no battery cooling, at least they didn't have 
> battery cooling a few years ago. 
> 
> How many hours of daylight are you getting in AK this week?
> Today I saw sunrise 8:08, set 5:13, duration 9:05.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

+14F is pretty much the safe minimum for a Leaf battery. 
They have emergency heaters but no battery cooling, at least they didn't have 
battery cooling a few years ago. 

How many hours of daylight are you getting in AK this week?
Today I saw sunrise 8:08, set 5:13, duration 9:05.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator


yeah, it may be better to just get a reman alternator.


OK Don via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 11:38 AM
dirty/burnt commutator can also give the same symptoms, though that 
usually

is the result of worn brushes ...

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <



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Re: [MBZ] HF work lights

2019-12-27 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes

I ordered some, along with some of the magnetic parts holders someone 
recommended as a base for the lights. The parts holders came right away, no 
notice of the lights themselves. I called and got a nice American lady. She 
said they had them in stock, but something messed up my order. She said she 
corrected it. Another week or so and I received 4 gigantic boxes, with one 
light each. So, for a grand total of $5.99 in shipping fees, they sent 5 
separate FedEx packages, each of which was large enough to contain the entire 
order. I can't imagine they made much profit on this transaction.

That said, I'm very happy with the lights. With the magnetic parts dishes they 
will attach vertically or overhead, plus hold the lamp onto a flat non-metallic 
surface.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] HF work lights

The HF lights are on sale now. This is the cheapest I have seen them. 

https://www.harborfreight.com/390-lumen-magnetic-slim-bar-folding-led-work-light-63958.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

There is much discussion of how to power the tiny villages and such up there.  
Very few places are close enough to make sense putting out much power, as the 
cost to run wires is huge compared to how much demand for wattage there is.  I 
think Kodiak has almost enough demand (powering three other population centers) 
to make 25 megawatt.  That is rather large.  Nome has a demand around 8MW and 
powers a few villages down about 10 miles of wire in a few directions.  

The Alaskan villagers really need to either step back from western luxury, or 
invest heavily in CO2 producing generation.  Trouble is, fuel flies in or comes 
on a barge.  Very expensive to live in the lap of western tech goodness in such 
a desolate place.  Much more reasonable to be on a sheep station in the 
outback.  At least you have sun, it is warm, and all you need is to keep the 
beer cold.

clay

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:07 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What's a sub or ship reactor put out?  A few megawatts?   Ah, here the wikis 
> tell us:
> 
> While land-based *reactors* in *nuclear power plants* produce up to around 
> 1600 megawatts of electrical power, a typical marine propulsion *reactor* 
> produces no more than a few hundred megawatts. Space considerations dictate 
> that a marine *reactor* must be physically small, so it must generate higher 
> power per unit of space.
> 
> A few hundred MW might be too much for the AK outback, but I'm sure they 
> could be derated to something more reasonable for the loads.  Plus you get 
> steam and hot water from cooling which might be nice to heat buildings with.  
> A nuke package cogen plant?
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

It does seem silly to me to see the high end homes here plastered with solar 
panels (48th parallel) and plug in for the Tesla or Leaf parked in the 
driveway.  I did learn that Seattle gets the same amount of insolation as 
Alaska (as a whole).  Seattle gets light year round of the same effective 
wattage as Alaska, being light only half the time there.  First week of 
November past some idiot (AK) who just put panels on his roof was crowing about 
how he had generated 4kw that week.  He was all excited to rush down to Seattle 
to purchase a used Leaf for $10k (there is a reason the off lease car was 
cheap).  I kept my mouth shut about how I hoped he would be walking or riding 
his bike all winter, as the panels were not going to power his car.  Not in the 
-17c cold that Anchorage is having this week.

clay


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:00 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th 
> parallel were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production and 
> installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of the 
> other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace 
> electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of 
> CO2 released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north 
> of 35 degrees.
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

How much memory does the computer have?  That is usually the best way to 
speed things up, besides another processor


-_FT

On 12/27/19 4:54 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes wrote:
Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread about 
downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.  But I was 
wondering if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing would be helped 
in any way or am I just wasting time.  It has a 2TB HDD but the 
processor should probably be upgraded.  Anyway, suggestions?


LarryT
06 E350
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Re: [MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...

There,were,some issues with 4matic in tha,era. Long answer depending on
year h vin. Can look it up but also some simpler issues not on recall.

Dwight Giles Jr.
1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic
Wickford RI

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 3:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals to me.
>
> she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be
> well taken care of, service records and such she says...
>
> $3k? $2500?  Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with
> 220kmi.  Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit, though the
> 211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/
>
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[MBZ] OT - Win10 Va Win 7

Running an older Lenovo desktop with Win 7.  Saw the thread about 
downloading W10 for free and thought I've give it a shot.  But I was 
wondering if the sluggishness my Win7 is experiencing would be helped in 
any way or am I just wasting time.  It has a 2TB HDD  but the processor 
should probably be upgraded.  Anyway, suggestions?


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Re: [MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...


We could take a road trip this weekend

--FT

On 12/27/19 4:06 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I should get that for SWMBO, she would love that and I wouldn't mind driving it 
either.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 27, 2019 3:11:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :


Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals to me.

she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be
well taken care of, service records and such she says...

$3k? $2500? Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with
220kmi. Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit, though the
211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

What's a sub or ship reactor put out?  A few megawatts?   Ah, here the 
wikis tell us:


While land-based *reactors* in *nuclear power plants* produce up to 
around 1600 megawatts of electrical power, a typical marine propulsion 
*reactor* produces no more than a few hundred megawatts. Space 
considerations dictate that a marine *reactor* must be physically small, 
so it must generate higher power per unit of space.


A few hundred MW might be too much for the AK outback, but I'm sure they 
could be derated to something more reasonable for the loads.  Plus you 
get steam and hot water from cooling which might be nice to heat 
buildings with.  A nuke package cogen plant?


--FT

On 12/27/19 2:36 PM, Clay Monroe via Mercedes wrote:

The fools in Alaska are getting heavy into wind and solar.  Recent story about 
how one utility is making a giant investment in TESLA batteries to take over 
the short load bumps from their NG plant.  CO2 reduction and all.  Stupidity of 
an extreme degree, given that the state does not have a linked grid.  Almost 
all the power is produced in isolated cells, so when your plant goes down, you 
are SOL.  Even the patched together grid from Fairbanks to the Kenia peninsula 
is a mash up of six separate utilities with their own fiefdoms charging each 
other carrier fees.  Hard to get your “cheap” wind power anywhere when, by the 
time it gets where it is needed, the cost has quintupled with all the fees.

AK is a place that could benefit from micro nuke plants.  I think there was 
interest in Toshiba closet nukes

clay


On Dec 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes  
wrote:

Unfortunately, the US has a number of Nukes that will require retirement or 
refueling in the near term.  Without a program to build more we will depend on 
coal/fossil fuel plants to provide power.  Else, the US may have some dark days 
and cold nights

I was hopeful we might see Va start it's Nuke Power industry with Vepco looking 
at a new reactor in the Western part of the state.  Haven't heard anything 
lately.

LarryT

On 12/20/2019 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

SWITZERLAND47-year-old nuclear power plant shuts down on live TVPublished:
Friday, December 20, 2019

Switzerland today shut down one of its oldest nuclear power plants, part of
a plan to end the domestic production of atomic energy before the middle of
the century.

Operator BKW took the Mühleberg Nuclear Power Plant, located 25 miles west
of the capital Bern, off the grid shortly after midday in a ceremony
broadcast live by Switzerland's main public TV station.

BKW, which is majority owned by the canton of Bern, said it plans to begin
dismantling the plant in January, a process that will take until 2034.
Decommissioning and deposing of radioactive remains is estimated to cost 3
billion Swiss francs ($3.1 billion).

Mühleberg is the smallest of Switzerland's four remaining nuclear power
plants. It began operation in 1972.

After the 2011 Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster in Japan, Switzerland
decided to gradually phase out nuclear power.

Switzerland is home to the world's oldest still-operating nuclear power
plant, Beznau, which will be shut down toward the end of 2029.

The remaining two nuclear plants, Gösgen and Leibstadt, will be shuttered
around 2040 and 2045, respectively.

Switzerland plans to significantly increase the production of renewable
energy from solar and wind over the coming decades to meet its power needs.
As part of the European grid, Switzerland also buys electricity from
neighboring countries such as France, which has numerous nuclear power
plants.

Earlier this week, campaigners submitted enough signatures to force a
referendum on incorporating the goal of making Switzerland "climate
neutral" by 2050 in the country's constitution. Doing so would require
ending virtually all burning of fossil fuels by midcentury. *— Associated
Press*
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Re: [MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...



I should get that for SWMBO, she would love that and I wouldn't mind driving it 
either.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 27, 2019 3:11:52 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes :

> Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals to me.
> 
> she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be
> well taken care of, service records and such she says...
> 
> $3k? $2500? Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with
> 220kmi. Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit, though the
> 211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

Sounds like complete and utter BS/propaganda.  Provide a peer reviewed
article to that effect please.

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 4:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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>
> I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th
> parallel were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production
> and installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of
> the other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace
> electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of
> CO2 released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north
> of 35 degrees.
>
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
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I recently saw an analysis that solar installations north of the 35th parallel 
were a net CO2 loss, when all the CO2 emitted during production and 
installation were compared to the same power provided by coal or one of the 
other fossil fuels. In other words, installing solar panels to replace 
electricity currently generated by fossil fuels will INCREASE the amount of CO2 
released into the atmosphere, when the solar panels are installed north of 35 
degrees.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland


I recently saw an analysis that

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 27, 2019 2:37:33 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes :

> The fools in Alaska are getting heavy into wind and solar. Recent story about 
> how one utility is making a giant investment in TESLA batteries to take over 
> the short load bumps from their NG plant. CO2 reduction and all. Stupidity of 
> an extreme degree, given that the state does not have a linked grid. Almost 
> all the power is produced in isolated cells, so when your plant goes down, 
> you are SOL. Even the patched together grid from Fairbanks to the Kenia 
> peninsula is a mash up of six separate utilities with their own fiefdoms 
> charging each other carrier fees. Hard to get your “cheap” wind power 
> anywhere when, by the time it gets where it is needed, the cost has 
> quintupled with all the fees.
> 
> AK is a place that could benefit from micro nuke plants. I think there was 
> interest in Toshiba closet nukes
> 
> clay
> 
> 
> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Unfortunately, the US has a number of Nukes that will require retirement or 
> > refueling in the near term. Without a program to build more we will depend 
> > on coal/fossil fuel plants to provide power. Else, the US may have some 
> > dark days and cold nights
> > 
> > I was hopeful we might see Va start it's Nuke Power industry with Vepco 
> > looking at a new reactor in the Western part of the state. Haven't heard 
> > anything lately.
> > 
> > LarryT
> > 
> > On 12/20/2019 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > 
> > > SWITZERLAND47-year-old nuclear power plant shuts down on live TVPublished:
> > > Friday, December 20, 2019
> > > 
> > > Switzerland today shut down one of its oldest nuclear power plants, part 
> > > of
> > > a plan to end the domestic production of atomic energy before the middle 
> > > of
> > > the century.
> > > 
> > > Operator BKW took the Mühleberg Nuclear Power Plant, located 25 miles west
> > > of the capital Bern, off the grid shortly after midday in a ceremony
> > > broadcast live by Switzerland's main public TV station.
> > > 
> > > BKW, which is majority owned by the canton of Bern, said it plans to begin
> > > dismantling the plant in January, a process that will take until 2034.
> > > Decommissioning and deposing of radioactive remains is estimated to cost 3
> > > billion Swiss francs ($3.1 billion).
> > > 
> > > Mühleberg is the smallest of Switzerland's four remaining nuclear power
> > > plants. It began operation in 1972.
> > > 
> > > After the 2011 Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster in Japan, 
> > > Switzerland
> > > decided to gradually phase out nuclear power.
> > > 
> > > Switzerland is home to the world's oldest still-operating nuclear power
> > > plant, Beznau, which will be shut down toward the end of 2029.
> > > 
> > > The remaining two nuclear plants, Gösgen and Leibstadt, will be shuttered
> > > around 2040 and 2045, respectively.
> > > 
> > > Switzerland plans to significantly increase the production of renewable
> > > energy from solar and wind over the coming decades to meet its power 
> > > needs.
> > > As part of the European grid, Switzerland also buys electricity from
> > > neighboring countries such as France, which has numerous nuclear power
> > > plants.
> > > 
> > > Earlier this week, campaigners submitted enough signatures to force a
> > > referendum on incorporating the goal of making Switzerland "climate
> > > neutral" by 2050 in the country's constitution. Doing so would require
> > > ending virtually all burning of fossil fuels by midcentury. *— Associated
> > > Press*
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Re: [MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...

Yeah there's that to consider, the E320 gets a reliable 26-28 mostly 
around town and semi-rural driving.  Maybe keep an eye out for a 210 wagon.


--FT

On 12/27/19 3:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

14 - 18 mpg?  Buy a W123 wagon instead and get 20+ mpg + flip value..

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals
to me.

she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be
well taken care of, service records and such she says...

$3k? $2500?  Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with
220kmi.  Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit,
though the
211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/

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Re: [MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...

14 - 18 mpg?  Buy a W123 wagon instead and get 20+ mpg + flip value..

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 3:11 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals to me.
>
> she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be
> well taken care of, service records and such she says...
>
> $3k? $2500?  Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with
> 220kmi.  Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit, though the
> 211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/
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[MBZ] So this girl is trying to unload this car...


Not that I am totally motivated but... the idea of a wagon appeals to me.

she got another car she says and doesn't drive this one, seems to be 
well taken care of, service records and such she says...


$3k? $2500?  Seems like that would be reasonable for a 15yo car with 
220kmi.  Could sell the E320 for maybe $2k and upgrade a bit, though the 
211 wagon 4matic might be nothing but a headache?


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/496043154602120/

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Re: [MBZ] HF click torque wrenches

never mind my last post - my question about calibration has been
answered... ;-)

LarryT

On 12/18/2019 11:56 AM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

I bought one of these -
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009MBG4MG/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1
and use it to calibrate my old click type torque wrenches every time I use
them. It does match the beam wrench I have, so I trust it.

On Wed, Dec 18, 2019 at 10:53 AM dan--- via Mercedes
wrote:

Don’t buy a HF inch pound torque wrench. I don’t like the way they click
(or don’t). The click doesn’t seem to be very positive.

When I did the injector reseal on the W211 I needed a 1/4” drive torque
wrench that would do 7 inch-pounds. I got this one and was very pleased
with it:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M12284X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

Not quite a HF price, but the quality seems very good as was the accuracy
checked against a beam type wrench that has been calibrated.

-D

On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <

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Hmm, I might get one of the smaller ones. I've never had anything that

could deal with inch pounds. I've got 3/8" and 1/2" beam and a 1/2" clicker
that all work well. I think the beam ones are both Craftsman, the clicker I
got at a yard sale. I wouldn't trust it for anything truly sensitive but it
works for tightening lug nuts...

-Curt

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 11:16:30 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via

Mercedes wrote:

I saw an ad in Sunday paper that HF has the 1/4 3/8 1/2 click torque
wrenches on sale for $10 any size. I wonder if they are any good, seems
like cheap enough to have a set in the tool box. I have a pretty good
1/2" Craftsman I got years ago.

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Re: [MBZ] HF click torque wrenches

who do you get to calibrate a Torq Wrench?

On 12/18/2019 11:52 AM, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

Don’t buy a HF inch pound torque wrench. I don’t like the way they click (or
don’t). The click doesn’t seem to be very positive.who do you get to calibrate a

When I did the injector reseal on the W211 I needed a 1/4” drive torque wrench
that would do 7 inch-pounds. I got this one and was very pleased with it:

https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01M12284X/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8=1

Not quite a HF price, but the quality seems very good as was the accuracy
checked against a beam type wrench that has been calibrated.

-D

On Dec 18, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
wrote:

Hmm, I might get one of the smaller ones. I've never had anything that could deal with inch
pounds. I've got 3/8" and 1/2" beam and a 1/2" clicker that all work well. I
think the beam ones are both Craftsman, the clicker I got at a yard sale. I wouldn't trust it
for anything truly sensitive but it works for tightening lug nuts...

-Curt

On Wednesday, December 18, 2019, 11:16:30 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap '94 E320 wagon



I need the right front on this car, and left front on my '95 sedan, both are 
the clear version.

Let me know what you'd like for your trouble, and I can either PayPal or mail a 
check.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Dec 27, 2019 12:53:42 PM Larry Turner via Mercedes :

> which turn signal do you need? I ended up with a OEM fixture and have
> nothing to put it on... I have the stock color lens and also a clear
> lens, take your pick for the shipping cost... good condition iirc.
> 
> Larry
> 
> On 12/8/2019 8:35 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > Got it for a Caleb price. Needs a radiator, front turn signal, third brake 
> > light, some paint, plus ... TBD.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

I have not purchased in three years, so am not sure how much change to fabric 
has taken place.  The trousers are made in a host of nations and I have found 
some plants do a poor job with QC.  The Canadian made 501 shrinks are top 
quality, with thick material, sturdy stitching and tight button holes.  Only 
thing to have “failed” was the label after five years.  

Once the jeans get super soft and fade out at the thighs, I demote them to 
“work” duty where they are assaulted with motor oil, chemicals, and yard work.  
Even then it takes a few years for that “fashion” distressed cuts to show up.  
I am too large for the resulting britches to fit the fashion forward set in 
Japan

clay 


> 
> I wear those, but wonder if I got a counterfeit pair last time (bought
> online from Walmart.com, which I assumed was safe from that). Either
> that or they may have started cutting back on the fabric quality.
> 
> Squatting to pick something up, the entire crotch ripped open. Not on a
> seam, in the middle of the fabric. Glad I was not going commando at the
> time! That pair were only a few months old when that happened.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: End of the Nuke Era in Switzerland

The fools in Alaska are getting heavy into wind and solar.  Recent story about 
how one utility is making a giant investment in TESLA batteries to take over 
the short load bumps from their NG plant.  CO2 reduction and all.  Stupidity of 
an extreme degree, given that the state does not have a linked grid.  Almost 
all the power is produced in isolated cells, so when your plant goes down, you 
are SOL.  Even the patched together grid from Fairbanks to the Kenia peninsula 
is a mash up of six separate utilities with their own fiefdoms charging each 
other carrier fees.  Hard to get your “cheap” wind power anywhere when, by the 
time it gets where it is needed, the cost has quintupled with all the fees.

AK is a place that could benefit from micro nuke plants.  I think there was 
interest in Toshiba closet nukes

clay

> On Dec 26, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Unfortunately, the US has a number of Nukes that will require retirement or 
> refueling in the near term.  Without a program to build more we will depend 
> on coal/fossil fuel plants to provide power.  Else, the US may have some dark 
> days and cold nights
> 
> I was hopeful we might see Va start it's Nuke Power industry with Vepco 
> looking at a new reactor in the Western part of the state.  Haven't heard 
> anything lately.
> 
> LarryT
> 
> On 12/20/2019 2:03 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> SWITZERLAND47-year-old nuclear power plant shuts down on live TVPublished:
>> Friday, December 20, 2019
>> 
>> Switzerland today shut down one of its oldest nuclear power plants, part of
>> a plan to end the domestic production of atomic energy before the middle of
>> the century.
>> 
>> Operator BKW took the Mühleberg Nuclear Power Plant, located 25 miles west
>> of the capital Bern, off the grid shortly after midday in a ceremony
>> broadcast live by Switzerland's main public TV station.
>> 
>> BKW, which is majority owned by the canton of Bern, said it plans to begin
>> dismantling the plant in January, a process that will take until 2034.
>> Decommissioning and deposing of radioactive remains is estimated to cost 3
>> billion Swiss francs ($3.1 billion).
>> 
>> Mühleberg is the smallest of Switzerland's four remaining nuclear power
>> plants. It began operation in 1972.
>> 
>> After the 2011 Fukushima nuclear power plant disaster in Japan, Switzerland
>> decided to gradually phase out nuclear power.
>> 
>> Switzerland is home to the world's oldest still-operating nuclear power
>> plant, Beznau, which will be shut down toward the end of 2029.
>> 
>> The remaining two nuclear plants, Gösgen and Leibstadt, will be shuttered
>> around 2040 and 2045, respectively.
>> 
>> Switzerland plans to significantly increase the production of renewable
>> energy from solar and wind over the coming decades to meet its power needs.
>> As part of the European grid, Switzerland also buys electricity from
>> neighboring countries such as France, which has numerous nuclear power
>> plants.
>> 
>> Earlier this week, campaigners submitted enough signatures to force a
>> referendum on incorporating the goal of making Switzerland "climate
>> neutral" by 2050 in the country's constitution. Doing so would require
>> ending virtually all burning of fossil fuels by midcentury. *— Associated
>> Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: We talked about socks, how about blue jeans?

2019-12-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:

> Since 1978 I have been using Levi’s 501 shrink to fit button fly.  Had
> a minor error time with designer jeans for a year in 1980, then
> returned to Levi’s 501.  There are four or five in rotation at a time.
> This gives them a lifetime wear of around 4 years.  Best fit I have
> found for any trousers to date for my lumpy form

I wear those, but wonder if I got a counterfeit pair last time (bought
online from Walmart.com, which I assumed was safe from that). Either
that or they may have started cutting back on the fabric quality.

Squatting to pick something up, the entire crotch ripped open. Not on a
seam, in the middle of the fabric. Glad I was not going commando at the
time! That pair were only a few months old when that happened.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

 Thanks Craig that's how I'd guessed it'd be even if I didn't know how it 
worked.
So that suggests that if the contact points on my spare more or less match the 
original then it *should* work at least some.
Maybe I'll just order that other one before I do anything, its not terribly 
expensive.
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 1:44:23 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:18:17 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Are these somewhat interchangable? I've got an alternator from a 190D
> that has a 1 197 311 009 EL 14V 4C regulator. I presume thats a 55a
> alternator which would probably be underpowered. Its got the wrong
> connector anyway but the regulator looks as if it would fit. All the
> connectors on the alt are crusty so my first plan of attack is to clean
> those.I can't find a Bosch replacement regulator but this one looks
> mostly right:
> https://www.amazon.com/Alternator-Equipment-Tractors-0120488293-0120488205/dp/B07H9HDQJM

> I *think* the regulator just sets the voltage, the alternator is
> responsible for the current but my knowledge here is sketchy at best...

Yes, that is true.

The armature (output) coil and diodes are the parts which supply the
current.

There is a secondary effect of load because the output coil and diodes
will have more voltage drop due to the increased current. This will cause
the regulator to supply more excitation current to the armature to offset
the increased drop. If, however, the low-load excitation current is
sufficiently conducted through the brush(es), it is likely the (slightly)
increased excitation current required for high load will be sufficiently
conducted as well.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Ice jet

2019-12-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Pretty cool.

-D


> On Dec 27, 2019, at 1:06 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26vCEWVNFYI=200
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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 18:18:17 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

>  Are these somewhat interchangable? I've got an alternator from a 190D
> that has a 1 197 311 009 EL 14V 4C regulator. I presume thats a 55a
> alternator which would probably be underpowered. Its got the wrong
> connector anyway but the regulator looks as if it would fit. All the
> connectors on the alt are crusty so my first plan of attack is to clean
> those.I can't find a Bosch replacement regulator but this one looks
> mostly right:
> https://www.amazon.com/Alternator-Equipment-Tractors-0120488293-0120488205/dp/B07H9HDQJM

> I *think* the regulator just sets the voltage, the alternator is
> responsible for the current but my knowledge here is sketchy at best...

Yes, that is true.

The armature (output) coil and diodes are the parts which supply the
current.

There is a secondary effect of load because the output coil and diodes
will have more voltage drop due to the increased current. This will cause
the regulator to supply more excitation current to the armature to offset
the increased drop. If, however, the low-load excitation current is
sufficiently conducted through the brush(es), it is likely the (slightly)
increased excitation current required for high load will be sufficiently
conducted as well.

Craig

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Re: [MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time

Possibly, but that is risky and what is the reward?

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 12:17 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Either that or he was a shill, and after it went past 30k he was saying
> 'please outbid me one more time'.
> Mitch.
> > On December 27, 2019 at 11:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Yeah, not a bright boy when it came to bidding. Definitely tipped his
> hand and did exactly the opposite of what you want to do. Bid incrementally
> with your top price in mind. Chip, chip, chip away and watch the less
> serious bidders fall by the wayside. Now you have your competition in sight
> if there is any, and you can ratchet up your bids slightly to see if the
> competition will follow.
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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

On Fri, 27 Dec 2019 11:12:14 -0500 (EST) Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> 
> > On December 27, 2019 at 12:10 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > I always thought the PO sticker concerning weapons was ambiguous.  It 
> > sounded like they were "banned except for lawful purposes". 
> There's federal law, and there's federal regulations which contradict
> federal law but appellate courts uphold them anyway:
> https://www.usacarry.com/carrying-concealed-post-office/ Most people
> can agree it’s illegal to carry concealed inside a Post Office.
> 
> I say “most,” because there are a good number of people who think it is
> legal. You see, the United States Code (18 U.S.C. 930) that deals with
> firearms in federal buildings has a section that says there are certain
> times you can carry concealed in a federal building… “The lawful
> carrying of firearms or other dangerous weapons in a Federal facility
> incident to hunting or other lawful purposes.”
> 
> People argue that “other lawful purposes” means we can carry for
> personal protection because we have a valid concealed carry permit.
> From what my lawyer has told me and from all of the research I have
> done this is NOT true.
> 
> In fact, the Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named
> “Conduct on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property
> may carry firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives,
> either openly or concealed, or store the same on postal property,
> except for official purposes.” So hopefully you understand that you
> cannot carry concealed inside the Post Office…
> 
> But that’s not my main concern and not why I wrote this today. The
> reason I wrote this and the big mistake people make is that you’re not
> even allowed to have your gun on Post Office Property. In other words,
> when you pull into the parking lot and toss your gun into the glove
> compartment while you go mail a letter, you are breaking the law.
> 
> I realize that may sound “dumb” and hard to believe, but the above
> Title 39 paragraph clearly states “on postal property, except for
> official purposes.” Now, I had a student who told me that a friend of
> theirs got arrested in the Post Office parking lot when a police
> officer watched him put his gun in his glove box…
> 
> But the most significant proof I found is what actually happened to a
> postal employee. A fellow named Clarence Dorosan used to store his gun
> in his car while he went to work each day. Somehow, one of this
> supervisors found out he had a gun in his car, and he was arrested and
> fired for having a gun on the property. I’ve added appellate ruling
> where the judges upheld his original conviction below this article.

The last paragraph of the article at
https://www.usacarry.com/carrying-concealed-post-office/ says,

So since you cannot even carry onto the Post Office parking lot,
what should you do? Obviously, one option is to leave your gun
at home if you know you’ve got to stop by the Post Office. But
where I live there is a restaurant next to the Post Office, so
I always park in the restaurant parking lot and stash my gun in
the glove box and then walk over when I need to send a package
or mail a letter. Yes, it’s nonsense, but unfortunately, many
laws are.


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

 Are these somewhat interchangable? I've got an alternator from a 190D that has 
a 1 197 311 009 EL 14V 4C regulator. I presume thats a 55a alternator which 
would probably be underpowered. Its got the wrong connector anyway but the 
regulator looks as if it would fit.
All the connectors on the alt are crusty so my first plan of attack is to clean 
those.I can't find a Bosch replacement regulator but this one looks mostly 
right: 
https://www.amazon.com/Alternator-Equipment-Tractors-0120488293-0120488205/dp/B07H9HDQJM
I *think* the regulator just sets the voltage, the alternator is responsible 
for the current but my knowledge here is sketchy at best...

-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 12:39:31 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 dirty/burnt commutator can also give the same symptoms, though that usually
is the result of worn brushes ...

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I take it back. Yesterday I was searching from my tablet, having much
> better luck using my laptop...
> -Curt
>
>
>    On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:25:05 AM EST, Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>  That was my first thought, not having much luck finding one...
> -Curt
>
>    On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:03:01 AM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  worn out brushes.  try replacing the reg/brush pkg.
>
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > December 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM
> > The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years
> > of ham handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
> > I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been
> > watching it, we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow,
> > and I noticed that voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low
> > 11s. If I shut something off (the heater, some lights) voltage would
> > rise. Once we were done for the night I let the machine cool down and
> > voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
> > So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run
> > everything we need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a
> > alternator and with LED lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy
> > the lights so these are estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w
> > lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
> > So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the
> > incandescent lights that were there before.
> > Fortunately its a Bosch alternator:
> > https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
> > EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic
> > "group" or type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
> > Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch
> > regulators, need to dig them out and see the part number.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)

Yup. Might even be rusty  from reverse direction.
Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 12:33 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Probably a Yankee transplant
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Dec 27, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Here w210 is code for rust.
> >
> > Dwight Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:04 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Would want to at least inspect while the car is on a lift...
> >>
> >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:57 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Otherwise looks pretty nice
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html
> >>>
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[MBZ] OT: Ice jet

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)

2019-12-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

If you got it cheap enough and could swap out the fenders it might not be too 
bad

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> 
> Otherwise looks pretty nice
> 
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html
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Re: [MBZ] Cheap '94 E320 wagon

which turn signal do you need?  I ended up with a OEM fixture and have 
nothing to put it on...  I have the stock color lens and also a clear 
lens, take your pick for the shipping cost...  good condition iirc.


Larry

On 12/8/2019 8:35 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Got it for a Caleb price. Needs a radiator, front turn signal, third brake 
light, some paint, plus ... TBD.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

2019-12-27 Thread OK Don via Mercedes

dirty/burnt commutator can also give the same symptoms, though that usually
is the result of worn brushes ...

On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:27 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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>  I take it back. Yesterday I was searching from my tablet, having much
> better luck using my laptop...
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:25:05 AM EST, Curt Raymond <
> curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>   That was my first thought, not having much luck finding one...
> -Curt
>
> On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:03:01 AM EST, Curley McLain via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  worn out brushes.  try replacing the reg/brush pkg.
>
> > Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> > December 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM
> > The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years
> > of ham handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
> > I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been
> > watching it, we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow,
> > and I noticed that voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low
> > 11s. If I shut something off (the heater, some lights) voltage would
> > rise. Once we were done for the night I let the machine cool down and
> > voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
> > So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run
> > everything we need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a
> > alternator and with LED lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy
> > the lights so these are estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w
> > lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
> > So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the
> > incandescent lights that were there before.
> > Fortunately its a Bosch alternator:
> > https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
> > EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic
> > "group" or type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
> > Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch
> > regulators, need to dig them out and see the part number.
> > -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)

2019-12-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

Probably a Yankee transplant 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here w210 is code for rust.
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019, 11:04 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Would want to at least inspect while the car is on a lift...
>> 
>> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:57 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Otherwise looks pretty nice
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time

Either that or he was a shill, and after it went past 30k he was saying 'please 
outbid me one more time'. 
Mitch. 
> On December 27, 2019 at 11:53 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Yeah, not a bright boy when it came to bidding. Definitely tipped his hand 
> and did exactly the opposite of what you want to do. Bid incrementally with 
> your top price in mind. Chip, chip, chip away and watch the less serious 
> bidders fall by the wayside. Now you have your competition in sight if there 
> is any, and you can ratchet up your bids slightly to see if the competition 
> will follow.

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Re: [MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time

2019-12-27 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Yeah, not a bright boy when it came to bidding. Definitely tipped his hand and 
did exactly the opposite of what you want to do. Bid incrementally with your 
top price in mind. Chip, chip, chip away and watch the less serious bidders 
fall by the wayside. Now you have your competition in sight if there is any, 
and you can ratchet up your bids slightly to see if the competition will follow.

-D

> On Dec 27, 2019, at 11:43 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
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> 
> buybid22 was using 5-10k jump bids to demonstrate he was not at his limit. 
> The problem with that is when he later raised the bid from 32k to 33k he was 
> signaling that he was running out of money. So the opposition took it to 35k 
> and he had to bow out. 
> Mitch. 
>> On December 27, 2019 at 11:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> The bids were strange
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Re: [MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time

buybid22 was using 5-10k jump bids to demonstrate he was not at his limit. 
The problem with that is when he later raised the bid from 32k to 33k he was 
signaling that he was running out of money. So the opposition took it to 35k 
and he had to bow out. 
Mitch. 
> On December 27, 2019 at 11:22 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> The bids were strange

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Re: [MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time


The bids were strange

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On 12/27/19 10:55 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

BMW 320is from the 80s for $35K.  Hold the nostalgia and drop your jaw.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-bmw-320is/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-12-26
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Re: [MBZ] Whinging

> On December 27, 2019 at 12:10 AM Larry Turner via Mercedes 
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> 
> 
> I always thought the PO sticker concerning weapons was ambiguous.  It 
> sounded like they were "banned except for lawful purposes". 
There's federal law, and there's federal regulations which contradict federal 
law but appellate courts uphold them anyway:
https://www.usacarry.com/carrying-concealed-post-office/
Most people can agree it’s illegal to carry concealed inside a Post Office.

I say “most,” because there are a good number of people who think it is legal. 
You see, the United States Code (18 U.S.C. 930) that deals with firearms in 
federal buildings has a section that says there are certain times you can carry 
concealed in a federal building… “The lawful carrying of firearms or other 
dangerous weapons in a Federal facility incident to hunting or other lawful 
purposes.”

People argue that “other lawful purposes” means we can carry for personal 
protection because we have a valid concealed carry permit. From what my lawyer 
has told me and from all of the research I have done this is NOT true.

In fact, the Code of Federal Regulations – Title 39 – which is named “Conduct 
on Postal Property” says “No person while on postal property may carry 
firearms, other dangerous or deadly weapons, or explosives, either openly or 
concealed, or store the same on postal property, except for official purposes.”
So hopefully you understand that you cannot carry concealed inside the Post 
Office…

But that’s not my main concern and not why I wrote this today. The reason I 
wrote this and the big mistake people make is that you’re not even allowed to 
have your gun on Post Office Property. In other words, when you pull into the 
parking lot and toss your gun into the glove compartment while you go mail a 
letter, you are breaking the law.

I realize that may sound “dumb” and hard to believe, but the above Title 39 
paragraph clearly states “on postal property, except for official purposes.” 
Now, I had a student who told me that a friend of theirs got arrested in the 
Post Office parking lot when a police officer watched him put his gun in his 
glove box…

But the most significant proof I found is what actually happened to a postal 
employee. A fellow named Clarence Dorosan used to store his gun in his car 
while he went to work each day. Somehow, one of this supervisors found out he 
had a gun in his car, and he was arrested and fired for having a gun on the 
property. I’ve added appellate ruling where the judges upheld his original 
conviction below this article.

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Re: [MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)

Here w210 is code for rust.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> Would want to at least inspect while the car is on a lift...
>
> On Fri, Dec 27, 2019 at 9:57 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Otherwise looks pretty nice
> >
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)

Would want to at least inspect while the car is on a lift...

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> Otherwise looks pretty nice
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html
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[MBZ] The most mind boggle-ing BAT transaction of all time

BMW 320is from the 80s for $35K.  Hold the nostalgia and drop your jaw.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1982-bmw-320is/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2019-12-26
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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

 I take it back. Yesterday I was searching from my tablet, having much better 
luck using my laptop...
-Curt


On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:25:05 AM EST, Curt Raymond 
 wrote:  
 
  That was my first thought, not having much luck finding one...
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:03:01 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 worn out brushes.  try replacing the reg/brush pkg.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> December 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM
> The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years 
> of ham handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
> I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been 
> watching it, we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow, 
> and I noticed that voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low 
> 11s. If I shut something off (the heater, some lights) voltage would 
> rise. Once we were done for the night I let the machine cool down and 
> voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
> So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run 
> everything we need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a 
> alternator and with LED lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy 
> the lights so these are estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w
> lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
> So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the 
> incandescent lights that were there before.
> Fortunately its a Bosch alternator: 
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
> EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic 
> "group" or type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
> Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch 
> regulators, need to dig them out and see the part number.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

 That was my first thought, not having much luck finding one...
-Curt

On Friday, December 27, 2019, 10:03:01 AM EST, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 worn out brushes.  try replacing the reg/brush pkg.

> Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> December 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM
> The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years 
> of ham handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
> I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been 
> watching it, we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow, 
> and I noticed that voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low 
> 11s. If I shut something off (the heater, some lights) voltage would 
> rise. Once we were done for the night I let the machine cool down and 
> voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
> So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run 
> everything we need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a 
> alternator and with LED lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy 
> the lights so these are estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w
> lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
> So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the 
> incandescent lights that were there before.
> Fortunately its a Bosch alternator: 
> https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
> EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic 
> "group" or type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
> Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch 
> regulators, need to dig them out and see the part number.
> -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: ASV alternator


worn out brushes.  try replacing the reg/brush pkg.


Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
December 27, 2019 at 8:37 AM
The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years 
of ham handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been 
watching it, we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow, 
and I noticed that voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low 
11s. If I shut something off (the heater, some lights) voltage would 
rise. Once we were done for the night I let the machine cool down and 
voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run 
everything we need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a 
alternator and with LED lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy 
the lights so these are estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w

lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the 
incandescent lights that were there before.
Fortunately its a Bosch alternator: 
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic 
"group" or type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch 
regulators, need to dig them out and see the part number.

-Curt


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[MBZ] Mercedes 1983 240D Manual - $2675 (Hilton Head Island)


Looks fairly nice

https://hiltonhead.craigslist.org/cto/d/hilton-head-island-mercedes-d-manual/7042035885.html

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[MBZ] Rusty fenders 1999 Mercedes E300 turbodiesel - $2300 (Summerville)


Otherwise looks pretty nice

https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/summerville-1999-mercedes-e300/7044842504.html

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[MBZ] OT: ASV alternator

The electric system in the ASV snowmobile trail groomer is sick. Years of ham 
handed bodging (pre-me) have taken their toll.
I bought a 12 volt meter that plugs into the 12v socket. I've been watching it, 
we made a run a few weeks ago when we had 2 feet of snow, and I noticed that 
voltage would sag, I saw it get down into the low 11s. If I shut something off 
(the heater, some lights) voltage would rise. Once we were done for the night I 
let the machine cool down and voltage climbed over a few minutes into the 13s.
So the alternator works but isn't putting out enough power to run everything we 
need which is weird, this is supposed to be a 120a alternator and with LED 
lights the demand isn't so high. I didn't buy the lights so these are 
estimates.front lights 40w x4 - 160w
lightbar - 120wrear light - 20w
So about 300w or about 25 amps. This has got to be down from the incandescent 
lights that were there before.
Fortunately its a Bosch alternator: 
https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49281208846_436b7df6f3_b.jpg
EE 14v3 brings up all sorts of hits, thats apparently the generic "group" or 
type of alternator. 9 191 067 041 doesn't bring up much...
Will a bad regulator cause my problems? I've got some Bosch regulators, need to 
dig them out and see the part number.
-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] Oddities

Excellent naming

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Dec 26, 2019, 11:26 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Since the 240D is High Mileage Hildegard, the Sprinter has now been dubbed
> Low Mileage Lutgard AKA Der Doodlewagen.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 26, 2019, at 1:27 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't know about tours at Vulvo or Sprinterland, but the BMW factory
> in Greer do tours and there is a museum some cool old beemers.  Neither
> offer samples.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> >> On 12/26/19 3:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Factory tours?   Free samples?
> >>
> >>> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>> December 26, 2019 at 2:21 PM
> >>> Correct
> >>>
> >>> --FT
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] 06 MB E350 W211 w/electr issue

2019-12-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes

No this is an 03 W211 E500 in full squat mode right now

--FT
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> On Dec 27, 2019, at 7:57 AM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> BTW, is that E500 the W124 MB worked with Porsche on?   They're incredible 
> cars I'm told...
> 
> LarryT
> 
>> On 12/27/2019 7:13 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> Are there multiple fuse blocks in the 211. This E500 I have i vaguely recall 
>> has 2 or 3 scattered here and there. Also the aux battery can go bad and 
>> cause issues.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:11 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Gang,
>>> I hope all is well?  My '06 E350 has been sitting long enough - I need to 
>>> find a short. I discovered the battery was being drained.  I connected a 
>>> Test Light between the Neg Term and the the disconnected neg cable - the 
>>> light was on full bright.
>>> 
>>> I started pulling each fuse one after the other hoping one would cause the 
>>> test light to go out.  I checked all I know of and none changed the test 
>>> light. - I pulled those in the truck, drivers area and engine compartment.
>>> 
>>> My next step to to disconnect the wiring  (B+ maybe ??) on the Alternator 
>>> to see if that's the problem.  Assuming that tells me nothing,  is there 
>>> any other circuit checks I can try that might be draining the battery?
>>> 
>>> I need to test it some more - but it's a new battery, I can charge it to 
>>> ~13.4V, disconnect the charger and connect the + & - cables, attach my DMM 
>>> and I can watch the V's drop .04v every 2-4 seconds.  Last time I checked 
>>> it, I think it stopped draining when it go to ~10 Vs if that tells us 
>>> anything?  Maybe it's a DOA?
>>> 
>>> I'm going to take the battery back to the store and have it tested on the 
>>> off chance it's a bad battery.  What else can I check and which wire do I 
>>> disconnect on the Alternator?
>>> 
>>> Thanks ya'll, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
>>> LarryT
>>> 06 E350
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Re: [MBZ] 124 emergency brake shoes

BTW, I bought a tool - T Handle with a hook on the end - didn't seem 
very useful to me but you're welcome to it?


LarryT

On 12/20/2019 4:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
has anyone come up with tools that really work to R the 
parking/emergency brake shoes and cable?  (W124)    I've done it using 
vice grips and other made up solutions, but it is awful and results in 
lots of wasted time and skinned hands.


The right side had no shoes or guts whatsoever.   THe left side has 
shoes and I think it has all the parts.   Both sides need cables.   I 
have those.


Decided I Need to put in all new everything in the rear before it goes 
on the road again.  Ouch

wheel bearings, too...


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Re: [MBZ] 124 emergency brake shoes

Are you talking about "my" 91 300D?  If so, all the PB parts are in the 
trunk.  Pretty sure they were all in very god condition.


Larry

On 12/20/2019 4:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
has anyone come up with tools that really work to R the 
parking/emergency brake shoes and cable?  (W124)    I've done it using 
vice grips and other made up solutions, but it is awful and results in 
lots of wasted time and skinned hands.


The right side had no shoes or guts whatsoever.   THe left side has 
shoes and I think it has all the parts.   Both sides need cables.   I 
have those.


Decided I Need to put in all new everything in the rear before it goes 
on the road again.  Ouch

wheel bearings, too...


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Re: [MBZ] 06 MB E350 W211 w/electr issue

BTW, is that E500 the W124 MB worked with Porsche on?   They're 
incredible cars I'm told...


LarryT

On 12/27/2019 7:13 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Are there multiple fuse blocks in the 211. This E500 I have i vaguely recall 
has 2 or 3 scattered here and there. Also the aux battery can go bad and cause 
issues.

--FT
Sent from iPhone


On Dec 26, 2019, at 11:11 PM, Larry Turner via Mercedes  
wrote:

Hi Gang,
I hope all is well?  My '06 E350 has been sitting long enough - I need to find 
a short. I discovered the battery was being drained.  I connected a Test Light 
between the Neg Term and the the disconnected neg cable - the light was on full 
bright.

I started pulling each fuse one after the other hoping one would cause the test 
light to go out.  I checked all I know of and none changed the test light. - I 
pulled those in the truck, drivers area and engine compartment.

My next step to to disconnect the wiring  (B+ maybe ??) on the Alternator to 
see if that's the problem.  Assuming that tells me nothing,  is there any other 
circuit checks I can try that might be draining the battery?

I need to test it some more - but it's a new battery, I can charge it to ~13.4V, 
disconnect the charger and connect the + & - cables, attach my DMM and I can 
watch the V's drop .04v every 2-4 seconds.  Last time I checked it, I think it 
stopped draining when it go to ~10 Vs if that tells us anything?  Maybe it's a DOA?

I'm going to take the battery back to the store and have it tested on the off 
chance it's a bad battery.  What else can I check and which wire do I 
disconnect on the Alternator?

Thanks ya'll, Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!
LarryT
06 E350
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Re: [MBZ] 06 MB E350 W211 w/electr issue