[MBZ] OT: IP Cams, WAS W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Dan,  I think it was you who got me interested in home security cameras so I 
thought I'd share these results.

I did a side-by side comparison of four IP cameras ranging from a cheap (<$50) 
Reolink 5M cam to a new (>$150) 4M Dahua HDW5442TM-AS.  They are all "eyeball" 
style IP cameras.  Here is a link to day and night images (zoom in for detail):

https://ipcamtalk.com/threads/reolink-ip-cameras.41590/page-3#post-414681

IMO, all the daylight pics are OK but the 2M and 4M Dahua starlight cams were 
significantly sharper at night, especially for a moving person (although not in 
these images).

Scott

> -Original Message-
> From: Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2020 5:59 PM
> 
> Cold front moving in Thursday night. Lows in the 50s on Friday, highs will 
> only
> be in the low 70s this weekend.
> 
> Looks like I better get up in the attic and get that security camera wiring 
> done
> before it gets roasty.
> 
> -D


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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

I'm never rejected !

There is one at Harry's in Charlottesville, VA for $150.   Sez 101 miles 
from Rockville Md.   Easy.  call em up, drive down. haul it back, and 
put it on.


If you call around, you might find one closer or cheaper. but that is a 
fair one to start with.



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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

did you try car-part.com as suggested?


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 9:30 PM
My search parameters were rejected.


            Hahaha!
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
My search parameters were rejected.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:10 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Take a look at www.Row52.com.  There should be a yard within reasonable
> distance with a w123 you can snag a door from.  If you are not able to do
> the job yourself, there are pickers who will do it for you
>
> clay
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would doubt their expertise. 99.9% of body shops do not know how to or
> care to know how to fix rust. And FYI the outer and lower door bottoms are
> available from fixmyrust.com for cheap. Problem is that the monkey at the
> body shop is incapable of properly welding in the patch panels in a manner
> that would prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...
> >>
> >> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
> >>> whole door.
> >>>
> >>> RB
> >>>
>  On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>  Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a
> relatively
>  decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
> >>> million
>  miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
> 
>  Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
> 
>  Andrew
>  300TD
>  White/blue
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D

2020-02-12 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Yes, the window switches are paired in the later cars.  Front left, rear right, 
and vice versa.  Could be dirty switches or degraded wiring.  Door open and 
close a bunch on the rear doors tends to tweek the wires on the w126 cars I 
worked with.

clay

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 6:12 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Or dirty switches. I like that car but alas...
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 10:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> "Two windows not working."  Could this be a fuse?  Were they paired in
>> later models?


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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Bid price doubled toward the end of the auction to $5750 due to furious
competition.  I don't feel so bad now.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:05 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> There may be trouble in minds of bidders over the DJetronic system.  Very
> fiddly if touched by an idiot and there is diminished stock of people able
> to set the early electronic injection right.  That and the rarity of new
> injectors with attendant high cost.  I scored the last six that the CC had
> when I was having the SL rejuvenated.  Two injectors had massive leakage,
> and I thought it best to resolve it in one step instead of going back in
> multiple times later.  IIRC, I was charged around $280 per unit.  I had
> replaced two injectors a few years before when I had my indy defornicate
> the work done by a “Euro” shoppe the local section had a tech event at.  I
> made the mistake of having them do a tune/misfire job at the 25% “savings”
> offered.  Cost me $4k for their ham handed work and the proper resolution.
>
> clay
>
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 6:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I don't normally like the chrome wheel arches but with that red
> everything really pops.
> > I have a soft spot for 116 cars.
> > -Curt
> >
> >On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 10:20:39 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel
> via Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> > Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> > ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes
> launched
> > a national media campaign.
> >
> > I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were
> on
> > the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> >
> >
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D

2020-02-12 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
Or dirty switches. I like that car but alas...

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020, 10:10 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> "Two windows not working."  Could this be a fuse?  Were they paired in
> later models?
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > $2k looks fairly nice
> >
> > 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
> >
> > 300d,driven daily with no issues,fluid change and filters up to date,2
> > windows not working,sunroof works. Very reliable for a 30 year old
> > car.tough diesel car. Read Less
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1225134611008365/
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >
> > --R
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Take a look at www.Row52.com.  There should be a yard within reasonable 
distance with a w123 you can snag a door from.  If you are not able to do the 
job yourself, there are pickers who will do it for you

clay


> On Feb 12, 2020, at 1:25 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would doubt their expertise. 99.9% of body shops do not know how to or care 
> to know how to fix rust. And FYI the outer and lower door bottoms are 
> available from fixmyrust.com for cheap. Problem is that the monkey at the 
> body shop is incapable of properly welding in the patch panels in a manner 
> that would prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
>>> whole door.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
 decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
>>> million
 miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
 
 Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
 
 Andrew
 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
"Two windows not working."  Could this be a fuse?  Were they paired in
later models?

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 3:34 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> $2k looks fairly nice
>
> 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D
>
> 300d,driven daily with no issues,fluid change and filters up to date,2
> windows not working,sunroof works. Very reliable for a 30 year old
> car.tough diesel car. Read Less
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1225134611008365/
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>
> --R
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Clay via Mercedes
There may be trouble in minds of bidders over the DJetronic system.  Very 
fiddly if touched by an idiot and there is diminished stock of people able to 
set the early electronic injection right.  That and the rarity of new injectors 
with attendant high cost.  I scored the last six that the CC had when I was 
having the SL rejuvenated.  Two injectors had massive leakage, and I thought it 
best to resolve it in one step instead of going back in multiple times later.  
IIRC, I was charged around $280 per unit.  I had replaced two injectors a few 
years before when I had my indy defornicate the work done by a “Euro” shoppe 
the local section had a tech event at.  I made the mistake of having them do a 
tune/misfire job at the 25% “savings” offered.  Cost me $4k for their ham 
handed work and the proper resolution.

clay

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 6:23 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I don't normally like the chrome wheel arches but with that red everything 
> really pops.
> I have a soft spot for 116 cars.
> -Curt
> 
>On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 10:20:39 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
> a national media campaign.
> 
> I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
> the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

2020-02-12 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I still mourn the demise of my /8 220D.  Other than the floor cancer and other 
tin worm issues, she was a joy to drive.  Manual, no options, just worked.  I 
did take her on the freeway quite a bit and she had no issue keeping up with 
traffic and even hit her near redline of 84mph for ten miles on a barren 
stretch of road.  She was much happier at 70.

clay

> On Feb 11, 2020, at 9:32 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> My W115 diesel (manual transmission) was eminently drivable!  _No_ complaints
> about acceleration, etc.  And, a reliable 30+ MPG.  Never took a highway 
> trip, so
> I don't know if it could have beat that.
> 
> -- Jim

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[MBZ] mexican beer flu WUZ: OT Stock Market

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
This info is a week or 10 days old now, but I saw a map of the 
infections, and as of that time all of south china was without flu, so 
it is possible that the norks have none.   However we all know the 
chicomms are lying about numbers infected and dead.   We also know kim 
jung dead's son is lying if his mouth moves.  Coffee empty!


Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 2/12/20 8:19 PM:

Read an article to today about the norks, they are denying that they have
any cases of Kung Flu to report, so that doesn't portend well given that
they share a border with China.
-
Max
Charleston SC



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Re: [MBZ] OT Stock Market

2020-02-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So I think you are right about the winds last Friday, on Saturday I noted
there was a lot of trucks pulling containers again.  However today, no
wind, and truck traffic was down again.

Market keeps going up up up, new highs nearly every day.  Maybe I was
pre-mature, but I'm still going to keep the cash that I took out last week,
which was a small percentage of my portfolio.

Read an article to today about the norks, they are denying that they have
any cases of Kung Flu to report, so that doesn't portend well given that
they share a border with China.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I think it is high winds today. I drove my truck across the Stono bridge
> yesterday afternoon and it was kinda scary
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
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> > On Feb 7, 2020, at 10:16 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Today on my way to work, there was a significant reduction in the
> number of
> > trucks pulling shipping containers.  The Port of Charleston is one of the
> > largest on the East Coast of the US.
> >
> > During the big crash in 2000, I noted that this traffic dropped of
> > significantly a week or so before the stock market tanked.
> >
> > Perhaps today's reduction is due to the high winds and the bridges these
> > trucks have to cross, and a big portion of the drivers are staying off
> the
> > road for safety reasons.
> >
> > I'm probably going to pull back today, sell off some of my index funds
> and
> > park that money in cash, maybe buy some GLD (a gold index).  Nothing
> > radical, maybe 5% or 10%.  If the drop in shipping container traffic
> > continues into next week, I'll probably sell off more.
> >
> >
> > -
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> > Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Contact from NZ

2020-02-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Euan sent a picture of his wagon, it is a beautiful bluish-silver color.
Really a sharp looking wagon, the BaT crack folks would really go nuts over
it.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 9:13 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> cool!  Howdy to him. I've maintained contact with Henifay, and kept
> track of John Greene. Fay is a Kiwi also, but has been living in OZ for
> a long time.
>
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
> > February 12, 2020 at 7:50 PM
> > A short while back Randy was asking about past list participants.
> Recently
> > I was contacted by Euan from New Zealand, he's still got his 123 wagon
> > (non-turbo, right-hand drive, 5 speed manual trans) and is about to
> > retire.
> > Says hello, may be joining us on the list again.
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Re: [MBZ] Contact from NZ

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
cool!  Howdy to him. I've maintained contact with Henifay, and kept 
track of John Greene. Fay is a Kiwi also, but has been living in OZ for 
a long time.



Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 7:50 PM
A short while back Randy was asking about past list participants. Recently
I was contacted by Euan from New Zealand, he's still got his 123 wagon
(non-turbo, right-hand drive, 5 speed manual trans) and is about to 
retire.

Says hello, may be joining us on the list again.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] 380SL BAT wuz: Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

1985 R107 M116 engine. 380SL.

I think if you took out the booster you might be able to get the valve 
cover off.  I can't remember the impediments now.   I did change the 
booster, but it was a pig of a job.  I was not about to take the booster 
out to get the valve cover off.  I didn't HAVE to take it off.  I took 
it loose, and then discovered there was no way to get it out.   Put it 
back on.



OK Don via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 6:14 PM
Are you talking about the R107? Because if you are, I had no problems with
R either the valve covers or the vacuum brake booster in the 450 SLC ---

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[MBZ] Contact from NZ

2020-02-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
A short while back Randy was asking about past list participants.  Recently
I was contacted by Euan from New Zealand, he's still got his 123 wagon
(non-turbo, right-hand drive, 5 speed manual trans) and is about to retire.
Says hello, may be joining us on the list again.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT1990 Land Rover 110 6x6

2020-02-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
That looks cool, but not $44k cool.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Nicknamed Perentie, this 1990 Land Rover 110 6x6 was purpose built for the
> Australian Army by JRA Limited in the UK.  Powering the Perenties 6 wheels
> is a smooth running 3.9L Isuzu 4BD1-T Turbo Diesel mated to a four-speed
> LT95A transmission.  The special built chassis allows for the Defender to
> sustain being hung frame a helicopter by one corner without distorting the
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread MG via Mercedes
Then when you add the cost of the used door and 
the freight shipping, it might be a bit more then 
you thought. Depending on where it came from.


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Repair cost would exceed installation/replacement with a less rusty door.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:


It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
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How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
whole door.

RB

On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1

million

miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).

Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.

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Re: [MBZ] Patching -was: Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Butt weld the panels into place taking care to achieve good fit. Metal finish 
the seam as best as possible considering obstructions inside door,  use weld 
thru primer where appropriate, protect the backside of the weld using an epoxy 
primer or por-15, use seam sealer, spray the inside of the repair area with 
body cavity wax or fluid film.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 12, 2020, at 6:50 PM, fmiser via Mercedes  wrote:

>> Dimitri wrote:
> 
>> Problem is that the monkey at the body shop is incapable of
>> properly welding in the patch panels in a manner that would
>> prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.
> 
> So what is the proper manner of welding patch panel to avoid that
> problem?
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Thank you for all your advice and as always, I was cursing the whole time and 
telling myself how much I prefer bodywork!

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 6:44 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Waytago!   glad it worked out well for you!   (no welding needed)
> 
>> Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>> February 12, 2020 at 3:32 PM
>> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems 
>> to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. 
>> And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so 
>> much easier to deal with than regular belts!
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 380SL BAT wuz: Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Are you talking about the R107? Because if you are, I had no problems with
R either the valve covers or the vacuum brake booster in the 450 SLC ---

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> because it is nearly impossible to remove and replace with the engine in
> place.One of the valve covers is also impossible to get off with the
> engine in the car.The left one also.
>
> > Max Dillon via Mercedes 
> > February 12, 2020 at 5:47 PM
> >
> > I give up, share the secret.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 380SL BAT wuz: Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
because it is nearly impossible to remove and replace with the engine in 
place.    One of the valve covers is also impossible to get off with the 
engine in the car.    The left one also.



Max Dillon via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 5:47 PM

I give up, share the secret.

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Re: [MBZ] Patching -was: Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread fmiser via Mercedes
> Dimitri wrote:

> Problem is that the monkey at the body shop is incapable of
> properly welding in the patch panels in a manner that would
> prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.

So what is the proper manner of welding patch panel to avoid that
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Re: [MBZ] 380SL BAT wuz: Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes


I give up, share the secret.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 12, 2020 6:39:17 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :

> Anyone wanna guess why the brake booster looks 35 years old, not factory
> fresh? I know the seret.
> 
> 
> > Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> > February 12, 2020 at 9:26 AM
> > Talk about no love:
> > 
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-380sl-63/
> > 
> > -D
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

Waytago!   glad it worked out well for you!   (no welding needed)


Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 3:32 PM
Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car 
seems to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm 
February days. And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you 
are right, they are so much easier to deal with than regular belts!




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[MBZ] 380SL BAT wuz: Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Anyone wanna guess why the brake booster looks 35 years old, not factory 
fresh?   I know the seret.



Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 9:26 AM
Talk about no love:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-380sl-63/

-D


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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I meant to say outer and inner lower door patch panels.

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:25 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would doubt their expertise. 99.9% of body shops do not know how to or care 
> to know how to fix rust. And FYI the outer and lower door bottoms are 
> available from fixmyrust.com for cheap. Problem is that the monkey at the 
> body shop is incapable of properly welding in the patch panels in a manner 
> that would prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...
>> 
>> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
>>> whole door.
>>> 
>>> RB
>>> 
 On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
 decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
>>> million
 miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
 
 Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
No, just charged the battery before I set out, didn’t use heat or headlights 
and didn’t turn the thing off!

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> Did you take any special precautions during the trip home, like pull fuses or 
> unplug things?
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Feb 12, 2020 4:34:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems 
>> to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. 
>> And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so 
>> much easier to deal with than regular belts!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it.
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
 trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
 week sometime.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 
> On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
> 
> does no good for the serp belt. All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 12" 
> socket extension, or the lug wrench. But some of the MB lug wrenches are 
> too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the extension.
> 
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Cold front moving in Thursday night. Lows in the 50s on Friday, highs will only 
be in the low 70s this weekend.

Looks like I better get up in the attic and get that security camera wiring 
done before it gets roasty.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:56 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Meh. It’s all relative.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
>> 
>> Haha by warm I meant 40 degrees, not 80!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Atta boy!
>>> 
>>> Yes, serpentine belts are wonderful things.
>>> 
>>> I just finished changing oil, filter and the interior charcoal filters on 
>>> my S210 wagon. Charcoal cabin filters were the originals! Nearly 200k on 
>>> them and they were like desiccated bricks.
>>> 
>>> And it was one of those not so rare, warm February days here, too. Looks 
>>> like it got up to 80F, and I don’t have a garage with AC any more. I miss 
>>> that.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car 
 seems to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February 
 days. And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they 
 are so much easier to deal with than regular belts!
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it. 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
>> trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator 
>> this week sometime.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
>>> 
>>> does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
>>> 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug 
>>> wrenches are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the 
>>> extension.
 Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
 https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Meh. It’s all relative.

-D


> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:50 PM, Dimitri Seretakis  wrote:
> 
> Haha by warm I meant 40 degrees, not 80!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Atta boy!
>> 
>> Yes, serpentine belts are wonderful things.
>> 
>> I just finished changing oil, filter and the interior charcoal filters on my 
>> S210 wagon. Charcoal cabin filters were the originals! Nearly 200k on them 
>> and they were like desiccated bricks.
>> 
>> And it was one of those not so rare, warm February days here, too. Looks 
>> like it got up to 80F, and I don’t have a garage with AC any more. I miss 
>> that.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car 
>>> seems to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February 
>>> days. And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they 
>>> are so much easier to deal with than regular belts!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
 
 Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it. 
 Dwight E. Giles Jr.
 Wickford RI
 
 
> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
> trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
> week sometime.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
>> 
>> does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
>> 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug 
>> wrenches are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the 
>> extension.
>>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>>> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
>>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Did you take any special precautions during the trip home, like pull fuses or 
unplug things?

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Feb 12, 2020 4:34:01 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes :

> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems 
> to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. 
> And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so 
> much easier to deal with than regular belts!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> 
> > On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> > 
> > Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it.
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Wickford RI
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
> > >  wrote:
> > > I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
> > > trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
> > > week sometime.
> > > 
> > > Sent from my iPhone
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
> > > >  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
> > > > 
> > > > does no good for the serp belt. All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
> > > > 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench. But some of the MB lug 
> > > > wrenches are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the 
> > > > extension.
> > > > 
> > > > > Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> > > > > February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
> > > > > https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
> > > > > 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Haha by warm I meant 40 degrees, not 80!

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 5:29 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Atta boy!
> 
> Yes, serpentine belts are wonderful things.
> 
> I just finished changing oil, filter and the interior charcoal filters on my 
> S210 wagon. Charcoal cabin filters were the originals! Nearly 200k on them 
> and they were like desiccated bricks.
> 
> And it was one of those not so rare, warm February days here, too. Looks like 
> it got up to 80F, and I don’t have a garage with AC any more. I miss that.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems 
>> to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. 
>> And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so 
>> much easier to deal with than regular belts!
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it. 
>>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>>> Wickford RI
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
 trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
 week sometime.
 
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> On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
> 
> does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
> 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug 
> wrenches are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the 
> extension.
>> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
>> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Atta boy!

Yes, serpentine belts are wonderful things.

I just finished changing oil, filter and the interior charcoal filters on my 
S210 wagon. Charcoal cabin filters were the originals! Nearly 200k on them and 
they were like desiccated bricks.

And it was one of those not so rare, warm February days here, too. Looks like 
it got up to 80F, and I don’t have a garage with AC any more. I miss that.

-D

> On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems 
> to charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. 
> And to all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so 
> much easier to deal with than regular belts!
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>> 
>> Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it. 
>> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
>> Wickford RI
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
>>> trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
>>> week sometime.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
 
 does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug wrenches 
 are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the extension.
> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I would doubt their expertise. 99.9% of body shops do not know how to or care 
to know how to fix rust. And FYI the outer and lower door bottoms are available 
from fixmyrust.com for cheap. Problem is that the monkey at the body shop is 
incapable of properly welding in the patch panels in a manner that would 
prevent the doors from rusting through again in one year.

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 12:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...
> 
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
>> whole door.
>> 
>> RB
>> 
>>> On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
>>> decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
>> million
>>> miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
>>> 
>>> Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
>>> 
>>> Andrew
>>> 300TD
>>> White/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes

car-part.com is still your friend


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 9:01 AM
Mine has given way to the tin worm. Anyone have or know of a relatively
decent W123 LF door for my 300TD? It is getting ever so close to 1 million
miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).

Contact me privately. I an in hiding.

Andrew
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White/blue


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Re: [MBZ] W124 300D alternator replacement?

2020-02-12 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Successfully replaced the alternator today in the driveway and the car seems to 
charging well. It was one of those rare, relatively warm February days. And to 
all those serpentine belt fans out there, you are right, they are so much 
easier to deal with than regular belts!

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 10, 2020, at 9:38 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Good Job Dimitri. What a great car-so glad you have it. 
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> 
>> On Sun, Feb 9, 2020 at 11:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> I drove the car home today without replacing the alternator. It made the 
>> trip from RI to Boston just fine. I’ll try to replace the alternator this 
>> week sometime.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Feb 7, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>> >  wrote:
>> > 
>> > That long tool, with a stubby 3/8 drive 8mm socket.
>> > 
>> > does no good for the serp belt.   All you need is 2 13mm wrenches and a 
>> > 12" socket extension, or the lug wrench.   But some of the MB lug wrenches 
>> > are too fat to fit in the hole, so I always just use the extension.
>> >> Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
>> >> February 7, 2020 at 3:19 PM
>> >> https://www.harborfreight.com/search?q=serpentine%20belt%20tools
>> >> 
>> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 For the conservation hunt (specifically to remove snow geese) you don't need 
one, just need a hunting license in some state. You also don't need a federal 
waterfowl stamp although I've got one anyway.
During the conservation hunt there are no limits on geese shot, no limit on 
shells in the gun which is normally limited to 3. Hunting starts 30 minutes 
before sunrise and continues until 30 minutes after sunset when its normally 
sunrise to sunset.
Obviously this hunt is not for conservation of snow geese, its conservation of 
everything else by eliminating snow geese...
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 3:44:24 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 19:23:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>  I'm thinking about a trip to Arkansas next year for the snow goose
> conservation hunt. Looks like just under 1500 miles each way, about 48
> hours of driving total round trip. Probably do it in 2 days each way
> with a friend. I should look into flying too, not sure how much the
> airline would charge me to ship a cooler full of goose meat. -Curt

How much does Arkansas charge for an out-of-state hunting permit?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 19:23:09 + (UTC) Curt Raymond
 wrote:

>  I'm thinking about a trip to Arkansas next year for the snow goose
> conservation hunt. Looks like just under 1500 miles each way, about 48
> hours of driving total round trip. Probably do it in 2 days each way
> with a friend. I should look into flying too, not sure how much the
> airline would charge me to ship a cooler full of goose meat. -Curt

How much does Arkansas charge for an out-of-state hunting permit?


Craig

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[MBZ] OT1990 Land Rover 110 6x6

2020-02-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Nicknamed Perentie, this 1990 Land Rover 110 6x6 was purpose built for the 
Australian Army by JRA Limited in the UK.  Powering the Perenties 6 wheels is a 
smooth running 3.9L Isuzu 4BD1-T Turbo Diesel mated to a four-speed LT95A 
transmission.  The special built chassis allows for the Defender to sustain 
being hung frame a helicopter by one corner without distorting the chassis.  
The chassis is also more than strong enough to support the fully functional PTO 
winch.  Perfect overlanding vehicle capable of going places many others can't 
while having the cargo space to sleep comfortably.  Air conditioning in the 
rear box works great with the original cots still intact in addition to seating 
for 8 plus.  Fully serviced, new batteries, and rebuilt brake system.We 
purchased this Defender in 2018 and have being enjoying it since.

Car Cave USA Read Less

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/3442864372453673/


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[MBZ] 1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D

2020-02-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
$2k looks fairly nice

1991 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D

300d,driven daily with no issues,fluid change and filters up to date,2 windows 
not working,sunroof works. Very reliable for a 30 year old car.tough diesel 
car. Read Less

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1225134611008365/

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[MBZ] This would better than a Maybach for $25k

2020-02-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You could put a table, couch, recliners, fridge, and head in it

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/614039256057233/

2005 Cadi Profes

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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

2020-02-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The fins look wimpy to me - it either needs more, or none. I like the
Ponton and earlier bodies better - I've always wanted one with suicide
doors.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I don't mind the fins. I think I prefer the fins to the round look of
> the ponton.


-- 
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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

2020-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I don't mind the fins. I think I prefer the fins to the round look of 
the ponton.


RB

On 12/02/2020 1:26 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

Me too! I don't like the fins, but that speedo makes up for it.

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Yes I  loved that vertical bar speedo.






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Re: [MBZ] Local 1970 220 doing well on BAT

2020-02-12 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
Me too! I don't like the fins, but that speedo makes up for it.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yes I  loved that vertical bar speedo.
>


-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I'm thinking about a trip to Arkansas next year for the snow goose 
conservation hunt. Looks like just under 1500 miles each way, about 48 hours of 
driving total round trip. Probably do it in 2 days each way with a friend.
I should look into flying too, not sure how much the airline would charge me to 
ship a cooler full of goose meat.
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 2:03:04 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:49:25 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What is the big risk, and how much holiday time to you get? A drive 
> across country in a car like that sounds to me like a great holiday. I 
> drove from Winnipeg, to Minneapolis, to Chicago, to Mansfield, Ohio and 
> back in July last summer and enjoyed it all. I hadn't done a long road 
> trip in many years so it was great fun.

We drove 7125.5 miles in 2018 going from New Mexico to the east coast,
down and up the east coast, through the midwest, and back to New Mexico.

Newport Beach, CA, to Washington, D.C., is only 2648 miles or 2675 miles
depending upon whether he goes the northern route or the southern route.

If he pushes it, he could do it in three days. Relaxed driving could take
a week.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
The websites must be linked somehow. Probably down for maintenance. They are up 
now c 

Rick



  Original Message  


From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: February 12, 2020 10:29 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts


You are not allowed to buy parts

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> Is it just my phone, or has every Mercedes Benz dealership that sells online 
> parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up at every 
> single one I have tried.
>
>
> Rick
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Craig via Mercedes
On Wed, 12 Feb 2020 11:49:25 -0600 Randy Bennell via Mercedes
 wrote:

> What is the big risk, and how much holiday time to you get? A drive 
> across country in a car like that sounds to me like a great holiday. I 
> drove from Winnipeg, to Minneapolis, to Chicago, to Mansfield, Ohio and 
> back in July last summer and enjoyed it all. I hadn't done a long road 
> trip in many years so it was great fun.

We drove 7125.5 miles in 2018 going from New Mexico to the east coast,
down and up the east coast, through the midwest, and back to New Mexico.

Newport Beach, CA, to Washington, D.C., is only 2648 miles or 2675 miles
depending upon whether he goes the northern route or the southern route.

If he pushes it, he could do it in three days. Relaxed driving could take
a week.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yes, but that was not in a 47 year old dodgy Mercedes

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> What is the big risk, and how much holiday time to you get? A drive
> across country in a car like that sounds to me like a great holiday. I
> drove from Winnipeg, to Minneapolis, to Chicago, to Mansfield, Ohio and
> back in July last summer and enjoyed it all. I hadn't done a long road
> trip in many years so it was great fun.
>
> RB
>
> On 12/02/2020 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I'm not that much of a risk taker plus I have a day job.
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
What is the big risk, and how much holiday time to you get? A drive 
across country in a car like that sounds to me like a great holiday. I 
drove from Winnipeg, to Minneapolis, to Chicago, to Mansfield, Ohio and 
back in July last summer and enjoyed it all. I hadn't done a long road 
trip in many years so it was great fun.


RB

On 12/02/2020 11:43 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I'm not that much of a risk taker plus I have a day job.




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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Repair cost would exceed installation/replacement with a less rusty door.

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...
>
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 12:42 PM Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
>> whole door.
>>
>> RB
>>
>> On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> > Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
>> > decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
>> million
>> > miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
>> >
>> > Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
>> >
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>> > 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm not that much of a risk taker plus I have a day job.

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> You are not serious. If you truly wanted it, you would buy it, fly out
> to get it, and enjoy the drive back home.
>
> 'RB
>
> On 12/02/2020 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> > ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes
> launched
> > a national media campaign.
> >
> > I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were
> on
> > the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
It's at the body shop.  I have no reason to doubt their expertise...

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> How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the
> whole door.
>
> RB
>
> On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
> > decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1
> million
> > miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).
> >
> > Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.
> >
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> > 300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
How bad is it? Maybe you can have it repaired rather than replacing the 
whole door.


RB

On 12/02/2020 9:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1 million
miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).

Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.

Andrew
300TD
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
You are not serious. If you truly wanted it, you would buy it, fly out 
to get it, and enjoy the drive back home.


'RB

On 12/02/2020 9:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
a national media campaign.

I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Yeah that’ll go for cheap maybe  Would be nice to have

--Fat
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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:20 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
> a national media campaign.
> 
> I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
> the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
You are not allowed to buy parts 

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> On Feb 12, 2020, at 4:18 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
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> 
> Is it just my phone, or has every Mercedes Benz dealership that sells online 
> parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up at every 
> single one I have tried. 
> 
> 
> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I think 380s don’t get much love anyway, much like the W114s. I’ve always 
thought they were an easy way into the R107 chassis as long as you avoided the 
single row chain models.

-D



> On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> Yeah, that's a nicely preserved car.  Maybe gray market is a turn off for 
> those seeking collectability?
> 
> On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Talk about no love:
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-380sl-63/ 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> > ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
> > a national media campaign.
> > 
> > I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
> > the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> > 
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-450se-9/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-02-12
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Yeah, that's a nicely preserved car.  Maybe gray market is a turn off for
those seeking collectability?

On Wed, Feb 12, 2020 at 10:27 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Talk about no love:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-380sl-63/
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> > ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes
> launched
> > a national media campaign.
> >
> > I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were
> on
> > the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Talk about no love:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-380sl-63/

-D


> On Feb 12, 2020, at 10:19 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
> ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
> a national media campaign.
> 
> I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
> the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I don't normally like the chrome wheel arches but with that red everything 
really pops.
I have a soft spot for 116 cars.
-Curt

On Wednesday, February 12, 2020, 10:20:39 AM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
a national media campaign.

I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.

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[MBZ] Why no love for a RED 1973 450SE?

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Inaugural year of this famous W116 flagship car.  I remember the magazine
ads when it first appeared.  IIRC this was the first time Mercedes launched
a national media campaign.

I drool over the color combination.  It will sell for NR and if it were on
the east coast I would do something stupid, like buy it impulsively.

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[MBZ] Desperately need a W123 driver's door or door shell

2020-02-12 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Mine has given way to the tin worm.  Anyone have or know of a relatively
decent W123 LF door for my 300TD?  It is getting ever so close to 1 million
miles (currently 378 K and climbing, although slowly...).

Contact me privately or publicly. I have nothing to hide.

Andrew
300TD
White/blue
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Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Try a different browser?  I use FireFox on my Moto G5+, site comes up just
fine.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> online parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up at
> every single one I have tried.
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Re: [MBZ] Commiefornia

2020-02-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
At Hobby airport in Houston I would park at the rental car lot for a few 
$$ a day then ride the shuttle over, less than half the price of the 
terminal garage and door-door service.


--FT

On 2/11/20 8:48 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
yeah, don't rent a car at a kollyfonia airport.   They add on $150 a 
week in extra charges, (taxes and environmental payments, and medical 
and social services for illegal
aliens charges )   Rent from the local toada stealer.  you'll save 
~$30 a day or ~150 a week.   The toada stealer sent their courtesy van 
to pick us up at the airport, and since we returned the car at a time 
the driver was out, they paid for the u ber driver to take us back to 
the airport.   Best of all the people were great.  Better than I've 
ever been treated at an MB dealer, other than the long defunct 
Bickelhaupt Motors.


Yeah, I know... .friends don't let friends buy a toada.   But for 
years a lot of the 9 zip codes have had rental fleets that are 
heavily toada, so we kind of expect to see toada rentals.   I called 
Mossy Ford, and they transferred me to the rental dept. That turned 
out to be the rentatoada department.   The manager, Pete, told me that 
toada highly encourages their stealers to rent cars at rates that 
undercut the #1 and #2 rentacar companies.   If you ever need to fly 
into San Diego, call up mossy's rental office and save money.



G Mann via Mercedes 
February 11, 2020 at 10:41 AM
California: $285 a night the room is $15 a night... the rest of the
charge is taxes and environmental payments, and social services for 
illegal

aliens charges...
Welcome to California...



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Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

works on my dumputer

--FT

On 2/12/20 7:17 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Is it just my phone, or has every Mercedes Benz dealership that sells online 
parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up at every single 
one I have tried.


Rick



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Re: [MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Curley McLain via Mercedes
Must be you.  It came up ok for  me.    Maybe they are blocking the evil 
spyfones?



Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
February 12, 2020 at 6:17 AM
Is it just my phone, or has every Mercedes Benz dealership that sells 
online parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up 
at every single one I have tried.



Rick



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[MBZ] Discount OE MB Parts

2020-02-12 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Is it just my phone, or has every Mercedes Benz dealership that sells online 
parts at a discount been blocked??? Screenshot of what comes up at every single 
one I have tried. 


Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Commiefornia

2020-02-12 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes


That's a great tip!


Feb 11, 2020 8:49:30 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes :

> yeah, don't rent a car at a kollyfonia airport. They add on $150 a
> week in extra charges, (taxes and environmental payments, and medical
> and social services for illegal
> aliens charges ) Rent from the local toada stealer. you'll save
> ~$30 a day or ~150 a week. The toada stealer sent their courtesy van
> to pick us up at the airport, and since we returned the car at a time
> the driver was out, they paid for the u ber driver to take us back to
> the airport. Best of all the people were great. Better than I've ever
> been treated at an MB dealer, other than the long defunct Bickelhaupt
> Motors.
>
> Yeah, I know... .friends don't let friends buy a toada. But for years
> a lot of the 9 zip codes have had rental fleets that are heavily
> toada, so we kind of expect to see toada rentals. I called Mossy Ford,
> and they transferred me to the rental dept. That turned out to be the
> rentatoada department. The manager, Pete, told me that toada highly
> encourages their stealers to rent cars at rates that undercut the #1 and
> #2 rentacar companies. If you ever need to fly into San Diego, call up
> mossy's rental office and save money.
>
>

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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