Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

A bit too left leaning for my taste. Some good facts presented. 


Rick



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For the "it's like the flu" crowd, a little RWN interview with a guy
currently quarantined in Italy. Link will self destruct in a day or so.
Good listen.

https://s.amsu.ng/jPVevF5rAg3N


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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Good deal indeed.  I've paid up to $500 for these. The kit still requires lower 
receiver.

> -Original Message-
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> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:30 PM
> To: Mercedes 
> Cc: Meade Dillon 
> Subject: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!
> 
> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
> apocalypse.
> 
> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
> finish.
> 
> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-
> nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Ordered one

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
> apocalypse.
> 
> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
> finish.
> 
> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Wouldnt one want a shotgun? Or are you hunting deer?

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 1:30 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
> apocalypse.
>
> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
> finish.
>
>
> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I bought some 529 when it was down a little over 10%. Good time to get a
vanguard account going for the other kid I think.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 3:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I would neither buy nor sell with market conditions like this.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 6:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > TD Ameritrade trades are free, as are most brokerages these days. They
> > also have some plans where you can invest in fractional shares, too. That
> > usually works better than employer managed accounts, as they typically
> only
> > allow full share purchases, meaning your money can site for a bit and not
> > do anything until you accrue enough to buy a share.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > That's smart, but even TSP will let you make a couple trades per month.
> > >
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > > Mar 11, 2020 4:39:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel :
> > >
> > >> I contribute to the market every payday through my payroll deduction
> so
> > I don't even have to think about it.
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Max Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com
> > [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > wrote:
> > >>
> > >>>
> > >>> Won't catch it if you don't even try!
> > >>>
> > >>> Max Dillon
> > >>> Charleston SC
> > >>>
> > >>> Mar 11, 2020 12:08:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel < astrasfo...@gmail.com
> > [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] >:
> > >>>
> >  There's an old expression about what you're doing - catch a falling
> > knife.
> > 
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> > > Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

For the "it's like the flu" crowd, a little RWN interview with a guy
currently quarantined in Italy. Link will self destruct in a day or so.
Good listen.

https://s.amsu.ng/jPVevF5rAg3N

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 8:30 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And he of course is NEVER wrong.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:53 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Hannity said 95% of all antibiotics in the US come from China.
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > > Curley McLain via Mercedes
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:07 AM
> > > To: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> > > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)
> > >
> > > Yep, I've often wondered about this.   The US used to keep industries
> > like sugar
> > > and textile/clothing industries alive because they were considered
> > critical
> > > defense industries.   This was stopped in the clinton era and the big 5
> > sugar
> > > companies in HI collapsed, and C Brewer died.   Brewer was one of the
> > first to
> > > diversify, but that still did not keep them out of trouble.   C Brewer
> > had been in
> > > existence since 1826 and was one of the oldest companies in the world.
> > The
> > > textile/clothing industries remaining died about the same time.
> > >
> > > Drug manufacturing is such a high profit biz, I was unaware that we
> > depended
> > > on the chicoms for drugs.  I was aware that a lot were being made in
> > india,
> > > along with a lot of fakes being made in india.  I was not aware that
> the
> > usa has
> > > pretty much no drug mfg capacity.   That is dangerous for such a drug
> > addicted
> > > country.
> > > > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  March 10,
> > > > 2020 at 12:19 AM This scenario has highlighted our (US)
> > > > over-dependence on medical supplies (like drugs) from China. When I
> > > > was in the military procurement business, we had to source everything
> > > > for critical systems from the US or other non-interruptible sources.
> > > > IMO, we need similar policies for critical medical supplies.
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So no dividend checks

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:43 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> State of AK instituted a hiring freeze and no more work travel.  Beer flu 
> has destroyed the major source of revenue.  Tax on oil extracted.  The most 
> recent budget was calculated on $70/bbl and it was short by about 30% of 
> meeting the need.  Also, there are funds socked away in market investments.  
> That tanked massively, oil dropped by over 50%, and when the ice melts, small 
> time miners are going to be hitting the rivers looking for gold which is 
> becoming a much better investment in these trying times.
> 
> Maybe now is the time to roll the rappers and snag their chains.
> 
> clay
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I’m seeing a mild panic on the part of the County as it considers allowing 
>> remote work. While we have ASAs and VPN concentrators (the hardware that 
>> handles remote connections) that are licensed for thousands of users, but 
>> there has never been a situation where there have been massive amounts of 
>> users attempting to log in remotely, even during events like hurricanes.
>> 
>> If things continue in this direction, it could get ugly for our network 
>> team. Management just suspended all business travel effective immediately, 
>> too.
>> 
>> My boss was going on a cruise with his family on Thursday, but they’ve 
>> bailed. They were going with a group of people and some of them backed out. 
>> He said the cruise line refunded their money, no questions asked, and gave 
>> them a credit for a future sailing on top of the refund.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Clay via Mercedes]

The oil business is running out of places to hide the excess.  A bunch of 
refiners are closed or burnt down, so the flow to process it ain’t what it used 
to be.  Toss in 10% corn ethyl, so less processing need.  Electric cars need no 
oil.  Pretty soon there will be no more empty oil cars, as they will all be 
fully laden and sitting on abandoned track spurs throughout the nation.  

clay

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:52 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
> rainy day.
> 
> instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.

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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Clay via Mercedes]

State of AK instituted a hiring freeze and no more work travel.  Beer flu has 
destroyed the major source of revenue.  Tax on oil extracted.  The most recent 
budget was calculated on $70/bbl and it was short by about 30% of meeting the 
need.  Also, there are funds socked away in market investments.  That tanked 
massively, oil dropped by over 50%, and when the ice melts, small time miners 
are going to be hitting the rivers looking for gold which is becoming a much 
better investment in these trying times.

Maybe now is the time to roll the rappers and snag their chains.

clay

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:12 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I’m seeing a mild panic on the part of the County as it considers allowing 
> remote work. While we have ASAs and VPN concentrators (the hardware that 
> handles remote connections) that are licensed for thousands of users, but 
> there has never been a situation where there have been massive amounts of 
> users attempting to log in remotely, even during events like hurricanes.
> 
> If things continue in this direction, it could get ugly for our network team. 
> Management just suspended all business travel effective immediately, too.
> 
> My boss was going on a cruise with his family on Thursday, but they’ve 
> bailed. They were going with a group of people and some of them backed out. 
> He said the cruise line refunded their money, no questions asked, and gave 
> them a credit for a future sailing on top of the refund.
> 
> -D

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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Clay via Mercedes]

The end of the World is on its way.

Washington Governor has banned gatherings of more than 250 people.  That puts 
the brakes on oh so many things.  No more Costco shopping, sporting events, 
schools, plays and operas, as well as ballet.  No more Antifa marches, waiting 
to board airplanes ( moot right now, as most are flying empty)  TSA lines, 
Wallyworld, Mega churches, tourists hanging around places of interest, the 
ferries are making drivers remain in their cars, movie houses are making folks 
sit in checkerboard patterns at the multiplex, table dances by strippers are 
right out, but you can hang out in the wanker booths as long as the girls are 
behind glass.  The homeless are exempt as they gather in scrums and excrete all 
over the place.  No more LGBTQRSTUVWXYZ parades, transit workers will have to 
come on in stages, same with cops being limited at donut shops, and all the 
mall workers already lost their jobs to the River of Large Wimmen, so that 
leaves the box sorters at UPS and the drivers, as well as postal workers.

I am astounded the news people have not gone on a rampage reporting all the 
dead street people.

clay 



> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was just talking with a buddy who is a prof at the College of Charleston.  
> Tomorrow the school is going to have a "remote learning" day or some such 
> where kids can tune in to classes online.  The plan is to test their 
> bandwidth to deliver classes remotely.  He says this will be a sh*tsh*w as 
> the college has like a 56k modem for bandwidth.  He's going to record a 
> lecture and put it on the youtuber.  He's a real smart guy but he buys into 
> all this cable hype about the woohoofloo.
> 
> On another note I went to a concert last night and I noticed that most of the 
> guys in the gents were washing their hands as they were leaving the facility. 
>  The beer of choice was twennies of Bud, Budlite, and Ultra for some 
> outrageous amount.  I did not partake.
> 
> --FT

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Re: [MBZ] A $7k+ belt service was performed in February 2020

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 20:12:08 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Most high line Italian cars require engine removal for major service.
> Maserati, Lamborghini, etc., all have requirements like this. You can’t
> shoehorn an engine into a mid-engined car and expect it to be
> serviceable in any sense of the word. Even some of the the cheap ones,
> like the Fiat X1/9, required engine removal for major service - I know,
> I’ve worked on them.
> 
> I know of Maserati services that are due every 10k-15k that require
> engine removal on some models. If you’ve got the money to own/operate
> one of these cars, it’s expected and just part of the cost of ownership.

Did that apply to Ferraris of 1960s vintage, too?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] A $7k+ belt service was performed in February 2020

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Most high line Italian cars require engine removal for major service. Maserati, 
Lamborghini, etc., all have requirements like this. You can’t shoehorn an 
engine into a mid-engined car and expect it to be serviceable in any sense of 
the word. Even some of the the cheap ones, like the Fiat X1/9, required engine 
removal for major service - I know, I’ve worked on them.

I know of Maserati services that are due every 10k-15k that require engine 
removal on some models. If you’ve got the money to own/operate one of these 
cars, it’s expected and just part of the cost of ownership.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 8:06 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:43:58 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> if it has timing belts, I could see that.
> 
> Why would they design in timing BELTS? Why not chains?
> 
> 
>> Ever read about what it took to adjust the valves on a Bugatti?  It
>> was amazing, even in the 30s.
> 
> No, I never did read about what it took to adjust the valves on a
> Buggati. What all is involved?
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] A $7k+ belt service was performed in February 2020

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 18:43:58 -0500 Curley McLain via Mercedes
 wrote:

> if it has timing belts, I could see that.

Why would they design in timing BELTS? Why not chains?


> Ever read about what it took to adjust the valves on a Bugatti?  It
> was amazing, even in the 30s.

No, I never did read about what it took to adjust the valves on a
Buggati. What all is involved?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Nope have to be in Nashville Friday morning then home Friday night

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:31 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Miss the return and go see the BB-64 in downtown...whatever it is,  around 
> Norfolk.   You can always get  to OK friday night.
> 
> Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 4:37 PM:
>> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time budget 
>> tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and 
>> get thru security.  I have pre check.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] A $7k+ belt service was performed in February 2020

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

if it has timing belts, I could see that.   Might have to take the 
engine out.   Nobody ever said horses were cheap to keep.  This fall 
into the category of "if you have to ask, you can't afford it."  like 
rollers.   Might have cost $5k to fly they guy in from NY, miami or 
somewhere and keep him for a day.


Les Blumner, and to some extent, Pierre are into that biz.   I always 
wondered what the going rate is.  For MB, i;d guess $1000 a day plus 
travel expenses, plus $200 to $300 an hour.   But is you own a 600 or 
other M100, you expect to pay in that range.  They may skip the daily 
rate and raise the hourly.  or have a lower hourly, no daily, but charge 
for travel time.  Endless combinations...


You may have to take the engine out just to change the belts.   Ever 
read about what it took to adjust the valves on a Bugatti?   It was 
amazing, even in the 30s.

Craig via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 5:32 PM:

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-ferrari-550-maranello-10/

More than $7,000 to change the belts?!

Wow.


Craig



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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Miss the return and go see the BB-64 in downtown...whatever it is,  
around Norfolk.   You can always get  to OK friday night.


Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 4:37 PM:

About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time budget 
tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and get 
thru security.  I have pre check.





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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

What a deal!    PSA is coming here on March 24.  I want to see their stuff.

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 3:29 PM:

This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
apocalypse.

PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
finish.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html


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Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

yup.   While our old MBs can run on up to 50% Benzin, it is not 
recommended, except in extremely cold situations.  LIke -30 to -40 ºF.   
A JD, cat,  or Perkins (MF or marine or other) or Allis chalmers of the 
same vintage would blow the head off.


G Mann via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 3:20 PM:

Best advice I can offer is, "IF in doubt, pump it out."

The cost of pumping out the tank and disposal is small compared to trying
to run a late model diesel truck on gasoline.  If it is a computer
controlled diesel with EPA systems, multiple sensors will take damage and
all of the items are expensive to replace and repair costs far exceed just
pumping out the tank.

Suggestion: Purchase a low pressure 12v fuel pump, fittings and polly line
[ace hardware has it in bulk, it's a use one time and discard item anyway...
Connect the aux 12v pump into the tank pickup tube and pump the offending
fuel in to a suitable container.
Refil tank with fresh diesel, change the fuel filter [s] and drive on.

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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

It’s still a pretty small airport. I did see another large runway across the 
bay, maybe for the Navy. 

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:35 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I will let you know how it turns out since I know you are curious. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I thought the same thing when I flew into there back in the late 90s to 
>> pick up a 1970 280S. I was pretty surprised that it was a really small 
>> airport with minimal services. Again, I’m sure much has changed in 20 years.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I kind of figured it might be a large airport with the military stuff 
>>> there. My former employers corporate office is there. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Haven’t been there in 20 years, even then it was a dinky airport. In my 
 case the rental place was a gas station off premises, but it sounds like 
 that’s changed.
 
 Watch out for the po-po in the rural areas. They like ticket revenue.
 
 -D
 
 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 
> hours. Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back 
>> then the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
>> 
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>> :
>> 
>>> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time 
>>> budget tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car 
>>> tuned in and get thru security. I have pre check.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

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I will let you know how it turns out since I know you are curious. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I thought the same thing when I flew into there back in the late 90s to pick 
> up a 1970 280S. I was pretty surprised that it was a really small airport 
> with minimal services. Again, I’m sure much has changed in 20 years.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I kind of figured it might be a large airport with the military stuff there. 
>> My former employers corporate office is there. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Haven’t been there in 20 years, even then it was a dinky airport. In my 
>>> case the rental place was a gas station off premises, but it sounds like 
>>> that’s changed.
>>> 
>>> Watch out for the po-po in the rural areas. They like ticket revenue.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 
 hours. Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
> 
> 
> Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back 
> then the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> :
> 
>> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time 
>> budget tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car 
>> tuned in and get thru security. I have pre check.
>> 
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[MBZ] A $7k+ belt service was performed in February 2020

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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2000-ferrari-550-maranello-10/

More than $7,000 to change the belts?!

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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

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I would neither buy nor sell with market conditions like this.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 6:14 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
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> TD Ameritrade trades are free, as are most brokerages these days. They
> also have some plans where you can invest in fractional shares, too. That
> usually works better than employer managed accounts, as they typically only
> allow full share purchases, meaning your money can site for a bit and not
> do anything until you accrue enough to buy a share.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > That's smart, but even TSP will let you make a couple trades per month.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> > Mar 11, 2020 4:39:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel :
> >
> >> I contribute to the market every payday through my payroll deduction so
> I don't even have to think about it.
> >>
> >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Max Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com
> [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Won't catch it if you don't even try!
> >>>
> >>> Max Dillon
> >>> Charleston SC
> >>>
> >>> Mar 11, 2020 12:08:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel < astrasfo...@gmail.com
> [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] >:
> >>>
>  There's an old expression about what you're doing - catch a falling
> knife.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I thought the same thing when I flew into there back in the late 90s to pick up 
a 1970 280S. I was pretty surprised that it was a really small airport with 
minimal services. Again, I’m sure much has changed in 20 years.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:14 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I kind of figured it might be a large airport with the military stuff there. 
> My former employers corporate office is there. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Haven’t been there in 20 years, even then it was a dinky airport. In my 
>> case the rental place was a gas station off premises, but it sounds like 
>> that’s changed.
>> 
>> Watch out for the po-po in the rural areas. They like ticket revenue.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 
>>> hours. Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
 
 
 Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back then 
 the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
 
 
 Max Dillon
 Charleston SC
 
 Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time 
> budget tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car 
> tuned in and get thru security. I have pre check.
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

TD Ameritrade trades are free, as are most brokerages these days. They also 
have some plans where you can invest in fractional shares, too. That usually 
works better than employer managed accounts, as they typically only allow full 
share purchases, meaning your money can site for a bit and not do anything 
until you accrue enough to buy a share.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:42 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> That's smart, but even TSP will let you make a couple trades per month.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 11, 2020 4:39:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel :
> 
>> I contribute to the market every payday through my payroll deduction so I 
>> don't even have to think about it.
>> 
>> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Max Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com 
>> [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Won't catch it if you don't even try!
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Mar 11, 2020 12:08:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel < astrasfo...@gmail.com 
>>> [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] >:
>>> 
 There's an old expression about what you're doing - catch a falling knife.
 
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> Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I kind of figured it might be a large airport with the military stuff there. My 
former employers corporate office is there. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:10 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Haven’t been there in 20 years, even then it was a dinky airport. In my case 
> the rental place was a gas station off premises, but it sounds like that’s 
> changed.
> 
> Watch out for the po-po in the rural areas. They like ticket revenue.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 hours. 
>> Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back then 
>>> the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Max Dillon
>>> Charleston SC
>>> 
>>> Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>>> 
 About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time 
 budget tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned 
 in and get thru security. I have pre check.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Haven’t been there in 20 years, even then it was a dinky airport. In my case 
the rental place was a gas station off premises, but it sounds like that’s 
changed.

Watch out for the po-po in the rural areas. They like ticket revenue.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 hours. 
> Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back then 
>> the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
>> 
>> 
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
>> 
>>> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time 
>>> budget tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned 
>>> in and get thru security. I have pre check.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Cool, thanks. I have to drive back from Kitty Hawk which is about 1.5 hours. 
Flight leaves at 3:30. I’m trying to leave the dealership by noon.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:59 PM, Max Dillon  wrote:
> 
> 
> Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back then 
> the rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.
> 
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 11, 2020 5:37:23 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time budget 
>> tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and 
>> get thru security. I have pre check.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Norfolk is small, last time I was there was a few years ago, but back then the 
rental place was right at the airport, so it was very quick.


Max Dillon
Charleston SC

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> tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and 
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

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That's smart, but even TSP will let you make a couple trades per month.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 11, 2020 4:39:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel :

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> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 3:10 PM Max Dillon < dillonm...@gmail.com 
> [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] > wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Won't catch it if you don't even try!
> > 
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > Mar 11, 2020 12:08:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel < astrasfo...@gmail.com 
> > [mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com] >:
> > 
> > > There's an old expression about what you're doing - catch a falling knife.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] [mailto: 
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] ] > wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> > > >
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> > > > Charleston SC
> > > >
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Re: [MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Should should has Has anybody. Stupid phone. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 5:37 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time budget 
> tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and 
> get thru security.  I have pre check. 
> 
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[MBZ] Norfolk

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

About flown into or out of Nofolk before? Going to me on a short time budget 
tomorrow and wondered how long it will take to get rental car tuned in and get 
thru security.  I have pre check. 

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[MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
apocalypse.

PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
finish.

https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html


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Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Best advice I can offer is, "IF in doubt, pump it out."

The cost of pumping out the tank and disposal is small compared to trying
to run a late model diesel truck on gasoline.  If it is a computer
controlled diesel with EPA systems, multiple sensors will take damage and
all of the items are expensive to replace and repair costs far exceed just
pumping out the tank.

Suggestion: Purchase a low pressure 12v fuel pump, fittings and polly line
[ace hardware has it in bulk, it's a use one time and discard item anyway...
Connect the aux 12v pump into the tank pickup tube and pump the offending
fuel in to a suitable container.
Refil tank with fresh diesel, change the fuel filter [s] and drive on.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 8:52 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> This is like a Ted seminar.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Mythbusters proved that getting actual gasoline to light is surprisingly
> > difficult. The fumes on the other hand...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 11:53:03 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >  I forgot - you can fill a can with gasoline and drop a match in and
> it'll
> > go out - Dad proved that point once. Liquid fuels need to vaporize to
> burn.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:50 PM OK Don  wrote:
> >
> > > Two things - one, Diesel burns, or our engines wouldn't run. Two, a
> > > neighbor - an old farmer - burns piles of trees that he's cleared by
> > > pouring a couple of quarts of Diesel on the pile, and setting it on
> fire
> > > with one of those long lighters.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> I now remember an instance in which diesel fuel did burn.  There was a
> > >> terrible wreck just outside of DC about 20 years ago involving a
> Diesel
> > >> powered train on the commuter line. The tank ruptured and since it was
> > >> under pressure, the fuel burned fiercely, incinerating 10 people
> inside
> > >> one
> > >> of the cars. It was one of the most awful accidents ever in this area.
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 7:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > I like this.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks!
> > >> >
> > >> > -D
> > >> >
> > >> > > On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> > >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >> > >
> > >> > > OR, with any cylindrical vessel; make a mark, fill with water to
> the
> > >> > mark, weigh. Empty and dry carefully, fill with unknown to line,
> > weigh.
> > >> > Weight of unknown over weight of water= s.g. of unknown.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Greg
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Original Message-
> > >> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > >> Greg
> > >> > Fiorentino via Mercedes
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:51 PM
> > >> > > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> > >> > > Cc: Greg Fiorentino
> > >> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
> > >> > >
> > >> > > I think the best method would be to get a graduated cylinder or
> some
> > >> > other accurate measure and weigh a sample to get the specific
> gravity,
> > >> then
> > >> > check against the values for each fuel. I brew, so have the tools;
> > plus
> > >> > former chem major and lab worker.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Greg
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -Original Message-
> > >> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf
> Of
> > >> > dan--- via Mercedes
> > >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:21 AM
> > >> > > To: Mercedes List
> > >> > > Cc: d...@penoff.com
> > >> > > Subject: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Buddy across the street has a late model diesel pickup truck, a
> > >> Dodge, I
> > >> > believe. He thinks his kid filled it up with gasoline, but is not
> > sure,
> > >> and
> > >> > if so how much.
> > >> > >
> > >> > > Is there any way he can test the fuel to see if it’s got gasoline
> in
> > >> it,
> > >> > and/or the concentration?
> > >> > >
> > >> > > -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Won't catch it if you don't even try!

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 11, 2020 12:08:30 PM Andrew Strasfogel :

> There's an old expression about what you're doing - catch a falling knife.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] > wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> > 
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You're forgetting the flash crash. Down and back up in one day.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 11, 2020 2:26:19 PM Andrew Strasfogel :

> That is yet another reason that I think we are at the
> bottom of this bear market.
> If true, that would be the shortest bear market in history.
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:17 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes < 
> mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] > wrote:
> 
> > That worked, but I was wrong about the cause of the drop-off. On that
> > particular day, high winds on the bridges had reduced the truck traffic.
> > I'd say that traffic has dropped off a little bit, but nothing like the
> > crash back in 2000. That is yet another reason that I think we are at the
> > bottom of this bear market.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:30 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] > wrote:
> > 
> > > I wish I'd have sold when you reported container traffic down. That
> > > appears to have been a very valid indicator.
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Original Message
> > >
> > >
> > > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] 
> > > Sent: March 11, 2020 10:28 AM
> > > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] 
> > > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com] 
> > > Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com [mailto:dillonm...@gmail.com] 
> > > Subject: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> > >
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The hurricanes also took out a lot of the petro distribution and storage
infrastructure too.  For example, our FL panhandle petro came by barge.  So
we were shut down until docks rebuilt and intercoastal waterway restored.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Look what happened after the hurkins down Tejas and Weezeeanna ways

--FT

On 3/11/20 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
> What would happen if someone took out 2 refineries? 

-- 
--FT


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[MBZ] AMG 124 wagon on BaT

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1995-mercedes-benz-e36t/

Bidding war, $34k and climbing.
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*That is yet another reason that I think we are at the bottom of this bear
market.*

If true, that would be the shortest bear market in history.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:17 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That worked, but I was wrong about the cause of the drop-off.  On that
> particular day, high winds on the bridges had reduced the truck traffic.
> I'd say that traffic has dropped off a little bit, but nothing like the
> crash back in 2000.  That is yet another reason that I think we are at the
> bottom of this bear market.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:30 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I wish I'd have sold when you reported container traffic down. That
> > appears to have been a very valid indicator.
> >
> > Rick
> >
> >
> >
> >   Original Message
> >
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: March 11, 2020 10:28 AM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale
> >
> >
> >
> > Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
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Re: [MBZ] DO OVER - Nice W116 Sedan Nearby

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I didn't see any interior photos.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 1:24 PM Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Nice one... I like how these 6 cylinder 116s drive.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Let’s try this again…a little slower...
> >
> >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
> > <
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
> > >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] DO OVER - Nice W116 Sedan Nearby

[Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes]

Nice one... I like how these 6 cylinder 116s drive.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:52 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Let’s try this again…a little slower...
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
> <
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That worked, but I was wrong about the cause of the drop-off.  On that
particular day, high winds on the bridges had reduced the truck traffic.
I'd say that traffic has dropped off a little bit, but nothing like the
crash back in 2000.  That is yet another reason that I think we are at the
bottom of this bear market.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:30 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> I wish I'd have sold when you reported container traffic down. That
> appears to have been a very valid indicator.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>   Original Message
>
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: March 11, 2020 10:28 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: dillonm...@gmail.com
> Subject: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale
>
>
>
> Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm making smaller moves, just 2% or so, buying on weakness.

I think we've gotten all the bad news we can get, or anticipated all the
bad news that might happen, so the market has priced all that in now.

The other 'possible' bad news that we won't know until later is who the
next President will be.  Trump, and markets will keep climbing.  Democrat,
and I'm betting the markets will level off or even drop.  I won't sell in
the case of the latter, the stock market will still be the best investment
vehicle out there in my opinion.  However in the case of the former, I may
move some of my cash back into the market for a few months or so to ride
the wave up.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:20 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Market timing in general is not a great idea. Dollar-cost averaging is
> the way to go.
>
> That's actually how I buy gasoline too. I buy a set dollar amount each
> time, so I buy more gas when it's cheap and less when it's expensive
> without having to think about it.
>
> Allan
>
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > There's an old expression about what you're doing  - catch a falling
> knife.
> >
> > On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
> >>
> >> Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I wish I'd have sold when you reported container traffic down. That appears to 
have been a very valid indicator. 

Rick



  Original Message  


From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: March 11, 2020 10:28 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale



Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.

Max Dillon
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Look what happened after the hurkins down Tejas and Weezeeanna ways

--FT

On 3/11/20 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes wrote:
What would happen if someone took out 2 refineries? 


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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Market timing in general is not a great idea. Dollar-cost averaging is
the way to go.

That's actually how I buy gasoline too. I buy a set dollar amount each
time, so I buy more gas when it's cheap and less when it's expensive
without having to think about it.

Allan

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> There's an old expression about what you're doing  - catch a falling knife.
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
>>
>> Max Dillon
>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT The just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The just make you sound stupid.  He can just flip the pictures, duh.

--FT

On 3/11/20 11:58 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
Make an offer at full price provided the seller moves the steering 
column over to the left.


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:19 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2683189181903161/

1970 Rolls-Royce muliner park ward
Charleston, SC· 20 hours ago

·


$13,500

  * About This Vehicle

  *
      o

      o Driven 50,000 miles
  *
      o

      o Automatic transmission
  *
      o

      o Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Beige

Seller's Description

Nice example of a 1970 Rolls Royce two door coupe - Very very
rare. New
hydraulics including pumps, accumulators, rear calipers, all hoses.
Carburetors have been rebuilt and new fuel pump installed.Many other
parts replaced No trades This car runs and drives. Engine is
fabulous.
Has been resealed on the top, converted to electronica ignition
and has
new plugs and wires, distributor cap and rotor. All parts were either
factory or very high-quality. The car could do with front suspension
bushings which I will include.  I have been driving the car weekly
since January and it’s fabulous No I am not negotiable - this is a
giveaway price. No trades. If you know these cars don’t tell me
that you
have bought many of them for a lot less money because you haven’t.
The
just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are) Mileage is
estimated Less


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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Now if we could just find a source of helium…

The Saudis are really trying to slap Pootie’s bag. They’re clearly quite 
unhappy. Their economy is not in that great of shape, so dumping oil isn’t 
going to help.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 12:07 PM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> we've been over the saud clan for over a year.
> 
> Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
> Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler ran out 
> of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a national 
> defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress of cons is 
> dipping into the cookie jar.
> Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut butter 
> and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel in reserve?
> Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and transport 
> it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts down for 
> maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen if someone 
> took out 2 refineries?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:
>> Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that 
>> what they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the 
>> Pootie/Saudi spat.
>> 
>> I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of 
>> the Saudis.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There are plans in Congress to buy now for the SPR.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:08 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> we've been over the saud clan for over a year.
>
> Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
> Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler
> ran out of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a
> national defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress
> of cons is dipping into the cookie jar.
> Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut
> butter and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel
> in reserve?
> Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and
> transport it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts
> down for maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen
> if someone took out 2 refineries?
>
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:
> > Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least
> that what they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the
> Pootie/Saudi spat.
> >
> > I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output
> of the Saudis.
> >
> > -D
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

There's an old expression about what you're doing  - catch a falling knife.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:28 AM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

we've been over the saud clan for over a year.

Why:  to be able to stabilize the market.
Why:  We stockpile every other component of national defense.  Hitler 
ran out of fuel.   Patton ran out of fuel.   having fuel reserves is a 
national defense issue.   This is the first time I had heard the gress 
of cons is dipping into the cookie jar.
Why:  The gov used to buy up things like milk, cheese, grain, peanut 
butter and so forth.  (I don't know if they still do)  Why not have fuel 
in reserve?
Why:  it takes time and resources to extract crude, refine it and 
transport it to where it is needed.  Right now, if one refinery shuts 
down for maintenance, we get a price spike in fuels.  What would happen 
if someone took out 2 refineries?


Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:55 AM:

Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that what 
they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the Pootie/Saudi 
spat.

I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of the 
Saudis.

-D




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Re: [MBZ] OT The just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Make an offer at full price provided the seller moves the steering column
over to the left.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:19 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2683189181903161/
>
> 1970 Rolls-Royce muliner park ward
> Charleston, SC· 20 hours ago
> <
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2683189181903161/?ref=product_details>·
>
>
> $13,500
>
>   * About This Vehicle
>
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Driven 50,000 miles
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Automatic transmission
>   *
>   o
>
>   o Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Beige
>
> Seller's Description
>
> Nice example of a 1970 Rolls Royce two door coupe - Very very rare. New
> hydraulics including pumps, accumulators, rear calipers, all hoses.
> Carburetors have been rebuilt and new fuel pump installed.Many other
> parts replaced No trades This car runs and drives. Engine is fabulous.
> Has been resealed on the top, converted to electronica ignition and has
> new plugs and wires, distributor cap and rotor. All parts were either
> factory or very high-quality. The car could do with front suspension
> bushings which I will include.  I have been driving the car weekly
> since January and it’s fabulous No I am not negotiable - this is a
> giveaway price. No trades. If you know these cars don’t tell me that you
> have bought many of them for a lot less money because you haven’t. The
> just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are) Mileage is
> estimated Less
> 
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Nothing for me I don't think. Increased people's fear levels though. Somebody 
was on the town facebook page yesterday asking the superintendent of schools to 
"have the schools cleaned". I replied that if the schools aren't already being 
cleaned I'd be pissed, I'm not paying to have dirty schools...
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 11:54:21 AM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote:  
 
 So Curt - what are the practical effects of the Gov's declaration of an 
Emergency in Mass.?

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:48 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:

 I was supposed to give at talk at a conference in April, we've pulled out of 
the conference. Great, it saves me writing the talk, and a bio and getting a 
head shot.We were scheduled to do a class the week before the conference, thats 
in doubt. I'd still go but students are starting to drop so I expect we'll 
cancel it...
-Curt

  

  
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Why, when we’re allegedly the world’s largest producer now? At least that what 
they were saying in the media this weekend when discussing the Pootie/Saudi 
spat.

I knew we were up there, but I didn’t think we had surpassed the output of the 
Saudis.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:52 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
> rainy day.
> 
> instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.
> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:36 AM:
>> The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
>> oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
>> in oil prices that has roiled world markets.
>> 
>> The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
>> the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
>> Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.
>> 
>> "In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
>> Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
>> from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
>> said in the announcement.
>> 
>> Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
>> new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
>> to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
>> *, March 9).
>> 
>> Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
>> to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
>> 
> ...
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

So Curt - what are the practical effects of the Gov's declaration of an
Emergency in Mass.?

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:48 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  I was supposed to give at talk at a conference in April, we've pulled out
> of the conference. Great, it saves me writing the talk, and a bio and
> getting a head shot.We were scheduled to do a class the week before the
> conference, thats in doubt. I'd still go but students are starting to drop
> so I expect we'll cancel it...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:12:55 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>  I’m seeing a mild panic on the part of the County as it considers
> allowing remote work. While we have ASAs and VPN concentrators (the
> hardware that handles remote connections) that are licensed for thousands
> of users, but there has never been a situation where there have been
> massive amounts of users attempting to log in remotely, even during events
> like hurricanes.
>
> If things continue in this direction, it could get ugly for our network
> team. Management just suspended all business travel effective immediately,
> too.
>
> My boss was going on a cruise with his family on Thursday, but they’ve
> bailed. They were going with a group of people and some of them backed out.
> He said the cruise line refunded their money, no questions asked, and gave
> them a credit for a future sailing on top of the refund.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was just talking with a buddy who is a prof at the College of
> Charleston.  Tomorrow the school is going to have a "remote learning" day
> or some such where kids can tune in to classes online.  The plan is to test
> their bandwidth to deliver classes remotely.  He says this will be a
> sh*tsh*w as the college has like a 56k modem for bandwidth.  He's going to
> record a lecture and put it on the youtuber.  He's a real smart guy but he
> buys into all this cable hype about the woohoofloo.
> >
> > On another note I went to a concert last night and I noticed that most
> of the guys in the gents were washing their hands as they were leaving the
> facility.  The beer of choice was twennies of Bud, Budlite, and Ultra for
> some outrageous amount.  I did not partake.
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 3/10/20 5:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
> >> UF students who recently rallied for Israel at a conference with
> government officials were unknowingly exposed to two New York attendees who
> were later confirmed to have coronavirus.
> >>
> >> AIPAC, or American Israel Public Affairs Committee, held its annual
> national policy conference in Washington, D.C, from March 1 to March 3.
> Vice-President Mike Pence and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu
> were among the speakers who attended and discussed developments in the
> American-Israeli relationship.
> >>
> >> Three days after the conference, two attendees tested positive for the
> virus, AIPAC announced in a tweet.
> >>
> >>
> https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-students-exposed-to-coronavirus-at-pro-israel-conference/article_876a4cb2-61c6-11ea-8b5c-4344bc4818d8.html
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

in a sane world, the feds would be buying petroleum to save for the next 
rainy day.


instead the gress of cons stick their fingers in the cookie jar  again.

Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote on 3/11/20 10:36 AM:

The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
in oil prices that has roiled world markets.

The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.

"In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
said in the announcement.

Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
*, March 9).

Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin


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Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

This is like a Ted seminar.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 10:38 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Mythbusters proved that getting actual gasoline to light is surprisingly
> difficult. The fumes on the other hand...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 11:53:03 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  I forgot - you can fill a can with gasoline and drop a match in and it'll
> go out - Dad proved that point once. Liquid fuels need to vaporize to burn.
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:50 PM OK Don  wrote:
>
> > Two things - one, Diesel burns, or our engines wouldn't run. Two, a
> > neighbor - an old farmer - burns piles of trees that he's cleared by
> > pouring a couple of quarts of Diesel on the pile, and setting it on fire
> > with one of those long lighters.
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I now remember an instance in which diesel fuel did burn.  There was a
> >> terrible wreck just outside of DC about 20 years ago involving a Diesel
> >> powered train on the commuter line. The tank ruptured and since it was
> >> under pressure, the fuel burned fiercely, incinerating 10 people inside
> >> one
> >> of the cars. It was one of the most awful accidents ever in this area.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 7:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > I like this.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks!
> >> >
> >> > -D
> >> >
> >> > > On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
> >> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > OR, with any cylindrical vessel; make a mark, fill with water to the
> >> > mark, weigh. Empty and dry carefully, fill with unknown to line,
> weigh.
> >> > Weight of unknown over weight of water= s.g. of unknown.
> >> > >
> >> > > Greg
> >> > >
> >> > > -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> Greg
> >> > Fiorentino via Mercedes
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:51 PM
> >> > > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
> >> > > Cc: Greg Fiorentino
> >> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
> >> > >
> >> > > I think the best method would be to get a graduated cylinder or some
> >> > other accurate measure and weigh a sample to get the specific gravity,
> >> then
> >> > check against the values for each fuel. I brew, so have the tools;
> plus
> >> > former chem major and lab worker.
> >> > >
> >> > > Greg
> >> > >
> >> > > -Original Message-
> >> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> >> > dan--- via Mercedes
> >> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:21 AM
> >> > > To: Mercedes List
> >> > > Cc: d...@penoff.com
> >> > > Subject: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
> >> > >
> >> > > Buddy across the street has a late model diesel pickup truck, a
> >> Dodge, I
> >> > believe. He thinks his kid filled it up with gasoline, but is not
> sure,
> >> and
> >> > if so how much.
> >> > >
> >> > > Is there any way he can test the fuel to see if it’s got gasoline in
> >> it,
> >> > and/or the concentration?
> >> > >
> >> > > -D
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> > who learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on 

[MBZ] DO OVER - Nice W116 Sedan Nearby

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Let’s try this again…a little slower...

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
 


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Re: [MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I made that assumption. Duh!

Again, that’s what happens when one gets in a hurry.

Too bad there aren’t any interior pictures.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> ok, I see where he says coupe.   I don't see where he claims it is a 123.
> 
> 116 280SE
> 
> Should be Dan's next flipper.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 11, 2020 at 10:37 AM
>> And it’s fuel injected, too!
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> Nice BaT flip.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Hahahaha!

I didn’t realize it was a sedan because I was in a hurry to share.

Still a nice car for the money, or so it appears. And the engine starts, too!

-D



> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:44 AM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
> 
> Rare 4 door coupe
> 
> Dwight Giles Jr.
> Wickford RI
> 
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 11:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes  > wrote:
> And it’s fuel injected, too!
> 
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
>  
> 
>  
>   
> >
> 
> Nice BaT flip.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That looks nice.  The next BaT flip?

--FT

On 3/11/20 11:37 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And it’s fuel injected, too!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html 


Nice BaT flip.

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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

among woohoofloos and the little spat between the new Saud strong boy 
and Pootie and the cable "news" channels, our stock market is in gyrations


--FT

On 3/11/20 11:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

No surprise, as the Saudis just dropped their shorts again to beat up on Russia.

Cheap benzine for everyone!

-D


On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
in oil prices that has roiled world markets.

The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.

"In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
said in the announcement.

Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
*, March 9).

Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
Salman this morning about the situation, the White House said.

"The sale was designed to raise revenue for SPR facility maintenance and
upgrades," Szymanski added. "Given current oil markets, this is not the
optimal time for the sale."

She added, "The Department continually monitors and evaluates global oil
markets and will provide updated information as market conditions change."

DOE first announced the sale in a news release at the end of last month.
Bids were due at 2 p.m. EDT today.

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill questioned the timing yesterday, fearing it would
add to the problem by putting more supply into an already saturated
market (*E
Daily *, March 10).

Established in the wake of the 1970s Middle East oil embargo, the SPR
contains 635 million barrels of crude oil.

Nearly half that supply, however, is scheduled for sale in the coming
decade because of congressional mandates.

Lawmakers have used the reserve to offset the cost of legislation like the
2015 highway bill or a health care research effort.
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Re: [MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

ok, I see where he says coupe.   I don't see where he claims it is a 123.

116 280SE

Should be Dan's next flipper.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 11, 2020 at 10:37 AM
And it’s fuel injected, too!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html 



Nice BaT flip.

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Re: [MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Rare 4 door coupe

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 11:38 AM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And it’s fuel injected, too!
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
> >
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> Nice BaT flip.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

No surprise, as the Saudis just dropped their shorts again to beat up on Russia.

Cheap benzine for everyone!

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:36 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
> oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
> in oil prices that has roiled world markets.
> 
> The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
> the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
> Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.
> 
> "In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
> Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
> from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
> said in the announcement.
> 
> Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
> new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
> to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
> *, March 9).
> 
> Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
> to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
> Salman this morning about the situation, the White House said.
> 
> "The sale was designed to raise revenue for SPR facility maintenance and
> upgrades," Szymanski added. "Given current oil markets, this is not the
> optimal time for the sale."
> 
> She added, "The Department continually monitors and evaluates global oil
> markets and will provide updated information as market conditions change."
> 
> DOE first announced the sale in a news release at the end of last month.
> Bids were due at 2 p.m. EDT today.
> 
> Lawmakers on Capitol Hill questioned the timing yesterday, fearing it would
> add to the problem by putting more supply into an already saturated
> market (*E
> Daily *, March 10).
> 
> Established in the wake of the 1970s Middle East oil embargo, the SPR
> contains 635 million barrels of crude oil.
> 
> Nearly half that supply, however, is scheduled for sale in the coming
> decade because of congressional mandates.
> 
> Lawmakers have used the reserve to offset the cost of legislation like the
> 2015 highway bill or a health care research effort.
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[MBZ] Nice W123 Coupe Nearby

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And it’s fuel injected, too!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/parrish-1977-mercedes-280se/7091399222.html
 


Nice BaT flip.

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[MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The Department of Energy this morning postponed its upcoming sale of crude
oil from the nation's Strategic Petroleum Reserve following a historic dip
in oil prices that has roiled world markets.

The move halts the sale of some 12 million barrels of crude from three of
the reserve's locations along the Gulf Coast. That sale was mandated by
Congress as part of the Bipartisan Budget Agreement Act of 2015.

"In light of the recent fluctuations in global oil markets, the U.S.
Department of Energy is suspending the recently announced sale of crude oil
from the Strategic Petroleum Reserve (SPR)," spokeswoman Jess Szymanski
said in the announcement.

Oil markets saw their biggest drop in 29 years yesterday as fears of the
new coronavirus combined with a price war between Russia and Saudi Arabia
to create market uncertainty (*Greenwire
*, March 9).

Prices dropped to as low as $31 per barrel but have seen a slight increase
to $33 today. President Trump spoke with Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin
Salman this morning about the situation, the White House said.

"The sale was designed to raise revenue for SPR facility maintenance and
upgrades," Szymanski added. "Given current oil markets, this is not the
optimal time for the sale."

She added, "The Department continually monitors and evaluates global oil
markets and will provide updated information as market conditions change."

DOE first announced the sale in a news release at the end of last month.
Bids were due at 2 p.m. EDT today.

Lawmakers on Capitol Hill questioned the timing yesterday, fearing it would
add to the problem by putting more supply into an already saturated
market (*E
Daily *, March 10).

Established in the wake of the 1970s Middle East oil embargo, the SPR
contains 635 million barrels of crude oil.

Nearly half that supply, however, is scheduled for sale in the coming
decade because of congressional mandates.

Lawmakers have used the reserve to offset the cost of legislation like the
2015 highway bill or a health care research effort.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)

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And he of course is NEVER wrong.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 2:53 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Hannity said 95% of all antibiotics in the US come from China.
>
> > -Original Message-
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> > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 6:07 AM
> > To: Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)
> >
> > Yep, I've often wondered about this.   The US used to keep industries
> like sugar
> > and textile/clothing industries alive because they were considered
> critical
> > defense industries.   This was stopped in the clinton era and the big 5
> sugar
> > companies in HI collapsed, and C Brewer died.   Brewer was one of the
> first to
> > diversify, but that still did not keep them out of trouble.   C Brewer
> had been in
> > existence since 1826 and was one of the oldest companies in the world.
> The
> > textile/clothing industries remaining died about the same time.
> >
> > Drug manufacturing is such a high profit biz, I was unaware that we
> depended
> > on the chicoms for drugs.  I was aware that a lot were being made in
> india,
> > along with a lot of fakes being made in india.  I was not aware that the
> usa has
> > pretty much no drug mfg capacity.   That is dangerous for such a drug
> addicted
> > country.
> > > Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  March 10,
> > > 2020 at 12:19 AM This scenario has highlighted our (US)
> > > over-dependence on medical supplies (like drugs) from China. When I
> > > was in the military procurement business, we had to source everything
> > > for critical systems from the US or other non-interruptible sources.
> > > IMO, we need similar policies for critical medical supplies.
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Benzin

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Where?  State?  City?  With prices this low I may move there.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 12:19 AM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> Filled up tonight at the Shell.   $30 for 18.77 gallons.
>
> 1.599/gal.
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[MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Market down again today, I'm going to buy some more.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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[MBZ] The A330...

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Is a big damn plane. This flight is practically empty too. 

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] OT The just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2683189181903161/

1970 Rolls-Royce muliner park ward
Charleston, SC· 20 hours ago 
· 


$13,500

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 50,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
 o

 o Exterior color: Red · Interior color: Beige

Seller's Description

Nice example of a 1970 Rolls Royce two door coupe - Very very rare. New 
hydraulics including pumps, accumulators, rear calipers, all hoses. 
Carburetors have been rebuilt and new fuel pump installed.Many other 
parts replaced No trades This car runs and drives. Engine is fabulous. 
Has been resealed on the top, converted to electronica ignition and has 
new plugs and wires, distributor cap and rotor. All parts were either 
factory or very high-quality. The car could do with front suspension 
bushings which I will include.  I have been driving the car weekly 
since January and it’s fabulous No I am not negotiable - this is a 
giveaway price. No trades. If you know these cars don’t tell me that you 
have bought many of them for a lot less money because you haven’t. The 
just make you sound stupid. ( you know who you are) Mileage is 
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[MBZ] This could be some OT fun

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I wonder if I could shove a SBC in there?

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2651278118440189/

1975 Austin Austin
Hardeeville, SC· over a week ago 
· 


$1,458

 * About This Vehicle

 *
 o

 o Driven 78,000 miles
 *
 o

 o Automatic transmission
 *
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 o Exterior color: Black

Seller's Description

1975 Austin , Diesel Engine Runs Excellent Rust on both side 2,000 or 
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[MBZ] What would this thing do that an OBD reader and phone app won't do?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.amazon.com/iCarsoft-Professional-Multi-System-V2-0-Mercedes-Benz/dp/B0791CDHS1

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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Actually, there are two Muni employees on board. A gripman and a conductor. You 
need a conductor to handle the fares of people who get on between the ends of 
the lines.

When I lived there a monthly Muni pass was like $25, meaning you could ride 
unlimited times. A single ticket for the touristas was like $3-$4, if I recall. 
I rode the cable cars every chance I got. They’re a great way to get around 
that part of the city, and the gripmen are pretty entertaining.

I got to talk to them on occasion when things were slow, and the stories they 
would tell about the Muni employees that tried to get on as gripmen (they have 
an open recruitment internally twice a year) were pretty funny. Realize that 
these are Muni employees, the same people who drive city busses. According to 
the things I was was told, the washout rate of applicants was pretty high. 
Length of service for gripmen is the highest in any division of the Muni, that 
is, these are guys and gals who have gotten into this division and stayed for 
much of their careers. Lots of physical wear and tear, like torn ligaments, 
rotator cup stuff, etc. It’s very, very physical.

And they get the exact same pay as a bus driver.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars 
>> do.
>> 
>> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
>> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
>> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
>> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her 
>> out of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably 
>> for that kind of event.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of 
>> these streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens 
>> if one is coming at you and you can’t move over?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
>>> streets served as the ground.
>>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
>>> by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
 They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
 conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>> powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Yup, the gripman. You should have gone to the museum. Seeing the motors that 
run the cars is pretty cool.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:51:28 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
> 
> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her out 
> of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably for 
> that kind of event.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> > one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
> > streets served as the ground.
> > Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> > would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> > the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> > trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
> > by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> > Gerry
> > 
> >> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> >> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> >> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
>  On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
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> >>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> >>> Road.  Guess why.
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>  and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>  powered
>  through the wires.
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>  Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea probably. 

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You could probably find a "companion" there to go around with you...
> 
> --FT
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>> On 3/11/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I would have done more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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So they do have an operator on board. I was not sure. 

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:46 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
> 
> I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
> lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
> "You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the machine.
> Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped her out 
> of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably for 
> that kind of event.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> > one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
> > streets served as the ground.
> > Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> > would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> > the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> > trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
> > by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> > Gerry
> > 
> >> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> >> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> >> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >> 
>  On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> >>> Road.  Guess why.
> >>> 
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>  Penoff via Mercedes
>  
>  Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>  
>  Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>  providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>  Europe
>  and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>  powered
>  through the wires.
>  
>  Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>  1950s,
>  and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>  
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Too right. I don't usually bother to do anything thats too much fun. I don't 
want to spoil it in case we go back someday, so I can share it with Angie.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:18:49 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get to see all of 
this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy it with a friend or family. 
I used to think about that a lot when I traveled, as in “The kids would really 
like this”, or, "I wish the wife could see this.”

Yeah, business travel is cool in that you get to see a lot of neat stuff, but 
it sicks that you’re on your own.

I do not miss it one bit.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have done 
> more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
>> street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
>> 
>> As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere in 
>> the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.  FOr a while it was 
>> closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.  I am not sure what the 
>> current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
>> 
>> SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes to 
>> whorlando, with lost wages as second.
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
>>> Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can see 
>>> why this has been largely ignored.
>>> 
>>> Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
>>> 
>>> I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished granite 
>>> curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto the 
>>> sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in place.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

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 I was supposed to give at talk at a conference in April, we've pulled out of 
the conference. Great, it saves me writing the talk, and a bio and getting a 
head shot.We were scheduled to do a class the week before the conference, thats 
in doubt. I'd still go but students are starting to drop so I expect we'll 
cancel it...
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:12:55 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I’m seeing a mild panic on the part of the County as it considers allowing 
remote work. While we have ASAs and VPN concentrators (the hardware that 
handles remote connections) that are licensed for thousands of users, but there 
has never been a situation where there have been massive amounts of users 
attempting to log in remotely, even during events like hurricanes.

If things continue in this direction, it could get ugly for our network team. 
Management just suspended all business travel effective immediately, too.

My boss was going on a cruise with his family on Thursday, but they’ve bailed. 
They were going with a group of people and some of them backed out. He said the 
cruise line refunded their money, no questions asked, and gave them a credit 
for a future sailing on top of the refund.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was just talking with a buddy who is a prof at the College of Charleston.  
> Tomorrow the school is going to have a "remote learning" day or some such 
> where kids can tune in to classes online.  The plan is to test their 
> bandwidth to deliver classes remotely.  He says this will be a sh*tsh*w as 
> the college has like a 56k modem for bandwidth.  He's going to record a 
> lecture and put it on the youtuber.  He's a real smart guy but he buys into 
> all this cable hype about the woohoofloo.
> 
> On another note I went to a concert last night and I noticed that most of the 
> guys in the gents were washing their hands as they were leaving the facility. 
>  The beer of choice was twennies of Bud, Budlite, and Ultra for some 
> outrageous amount.  I did not partake.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/10/20 5:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> UF students who recently rallied for Israel at a conference with government 
>> officials were unknowingly exposed to two New York attendees who were later 
>> confirmed to have coronavirus.
>> 
>> AIPAC, or American Israel Public Affairs Committee, held its annual national 
>> policy conference in Washington, D.C, from March 1 to March 3. 
>> Vice-President Mike Pence and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were 
>> among the speakers who attended and discussed developments in the 
>> American-Israeli relationship.
>> 
>> Three days after the conference, two attendees tested positive for the 
>> virus, AIPAC announced in a tweet.
>> 
>> https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-students-exposed-to-coronavirus-at-pro-israel-conference/article_876a4cb2-61c6-11ea-8b5c-4344bc4818d8.html
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The cable cars can disengage the cable. The cable never stops but the cars do.
I was on the cable car once when a lady in a Land Rover kept getting in our 
lane. The gripman was ringing the bell like crazy, I remember he called out 
"You're making my day lady!" Its hard work starting and stopping the 
machine.Finally she had the ass end of her car in our lane and he just bumped 
her out of the way. The cable cars are kind of armored on the corners, probably 
for that kind of event.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 10:09:48 AM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
is coming at you and you can’t move over?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
> served as the ground.
> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> Gerry
> 
>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
>>> Road.  Guess why.
>>> 
 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
 Penoff via Mercedes
 
 Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
 
 Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
 providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
 Europe
 and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
 powered
 through the wires.
 
 Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
 1950s,
 and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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You could probably find a "companion" there to go around with you...

--FT

On 3/11/20 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I would have done more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.


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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The DC Metro is one of the nicer/cleaner subways around. That said years ago I 
declared Chicago "pretty clean". My friend who lived there was horrified but 
you have to remember I'm comparing it to filthy Boston which twice a day smells 
like low tide and hasn't been cleaned since the molasses disaster...
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 9:38:42 AM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> DC Metrorail has started spraying the seats with disinfectant.  Smells
> awful but hey, it works [hack, hack].

Doesn't it smell awful all the time? That's my memory of the el in
Chicago -- a sort of oily electric smell with overtones of stale urine
and sweat. I think I'd take the disinfectant.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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It doesn’t seem really busy to me but I do not have a point of reference as I 
have never been here. I do know the flight out is more full than the flight in 
was, but I still have the whole row to myself as of now, and the entire middle 
section in the rear is empty

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:33 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Is there anyone there?
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The one thing I did think about doing was a bay tour, but ended up not since 
>> I was alone. I did see a really cool WW2 submarine and a fully operational 
>> liberty ship down there.  
>> 
>> At the airport now, getting ready to board a big A330 flying to Philly then 
>> connecting to Norfolk.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get to see all 
>>> of this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy it with a friend or 
>>> family. I used to think about that a lot when I traveled, as in “The kids 
>>> would really like this”, or, "I wish the wife could see this.”
>>> 
>>> Yeah, business travel is cool in that you get to see a lot of neat stuff, 
>>> but it sicks that you’re on your own.
>>> 
>>> I do not miss it one bit.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have 
 done more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
> street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
> 
> As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere 
> in the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr a while it 
> was closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I am not sure 
> what the current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
> 
> SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes 
> to whorlando, with lost wages as second.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
>> Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can 
>> see why this has been largely ignored.
>> 
>> Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
>> 
>> I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished 
>> granite curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto 
>> the sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in 
>> place.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Although I'm much too young to have lived in the age of trolleys I have gotten 
to go here: https://trolleymuseum.org/several times. They used to have "Moxie 
Day" and a model train club I was part of would put up a modular model 
railroad. Got to ride the trolleys for free.
-Curt

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020, 6:18:17 AM EDT, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. They 
referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a conductor for 
some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Mythbusters proved that getting actual gasoline to light is surprisingly 
difficult. The fumes on the other hand...

-Curt

On Tuesday, March 10, 2020, 11:53:03 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I forgot - you can fill a can with gasoline and drop a match in and it'll
go out - Dad proved that point once. Liquid fuels need to vaporize to burn.

On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 10:50 PM OK Don  wrote:

> Two things - one, Diesel burns, or our engines wouldn't run. Two, a
> neighbor - an old farmer - burns piles of trees that he's cleared by
> pouring a couple of quarts of Diesel on the pile, and setting it on fire
> with one of those long lighters.
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 9:06 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I now remember an instance in which diesel fuel did burn.  There was a
>> terrible wreck just outside of DC about 20 years ago involving a Diesel
>> powered train on the commuter line. The tank ruptured and since it was
>> under pressure, the fuel burned fiercely, incinerating 10 people inside
>> one
>> of the cars. It was one of the most awful accidents ever in this area.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 7:27 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I like this.
>> >
>> > Thanks!
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> > > On Mar 10, 2020, at 7:00 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > OR, with any cylindrical vessel; make a mark, fill with water to the
>> > mark, weigh. Empty and dry carefully, fill with unknown to line, weigh.
>> > Weight of unknown over weight of water= s.g. of unknown.
>> > >
>> > > Greg
>> > >
>> > > -Original Message-
>> > > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
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>> > Fiorentino via Mercedes
>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 3:51 PM
>> > > To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
>> > > Cc: Greg Fiorentino
>> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
>> > >
>> > > I think the best method would be to get a graduated cylinder or some
>> > other accurate measure and weigh a sample to get the specific gravity,
>> then
>> > check against the values for each fuel. I brew, so have the tools; plus
>> > former chem major and lab worker.
>> > >
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>> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2020 11:21 AM
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>> > > Subject: [MBZ] Gasoline in Diesel
>> > >
>> > > Buddy across the street has a late model diesel pickup truck, a
>> Dodge, I
>> > believe. He thinks his kid filled it up with gasoline, but is not sure,
>> and
>> > if so how much.
>> > >
>> > > Is there any way he can test the fuel to see if it’s got gasoline in
>> it,
>> > and/or the concentration?
>> > >
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Is there anyone there?

-D



> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The one thing I did think about doing was a bay tour, but ended up not since 
> I was alone. I did see a really cool WW2 submarine and a fully operational 
> liberty ship down there.  
> 
> At the airport now, getting ready to board a big A330 flying to Philly then 
> connecting to Norfolk. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get to see all 
>> of this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy it with a friend or 
>> family. I used to think about that a lot when I traveled, as in “The kids 
>> would really like this”, or, "I wish the wife could see this.”
>> 
>> Yeah, business travel is cool in that you get to see a lot of neat stuff, 
>> but it sicks that you’re on your own.
>> 
>> I do not miss it one bit.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have done 
>>> more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
 street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
 
 As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere 
 in the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr a while it 
 was closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I am not sure 
 what the current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
 
 SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes 
 to whorlando, with lost wages as second.
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
> March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
> Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can 
> see why this has been largely ignored.
> 
> Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
> 
> I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished 
> granite curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto 
> the sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in 
> place.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

The one thing I did think about doing was a bay tour, but ended up not since I 
was alone. I did see a really cool WW2 submarine and a fully operational 
liberty ship down there.  

At the airport now, getting ready to board a big A330 flying to Philly then 
connecting to Norfolk. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:18 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get to see all 
> of this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy it with a friend or 
> family. I used to think about that a lot when I traveled, as in “The kids 
> would really like this”, or, "I wish the wife could see this.”
> 
> Yeah, business travel is cool in that you get to see a lot of neat stuff, but 
> it sicks that you’re on your own.
> 
> I do not miss it one bit.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have done 
>> more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
>>> street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
>>> 
>>> As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere 
>>> in the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr a while it 
>>> was closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I am not sure 
>>> what the current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
>>> 
>>> SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes to 
>>> whorlando, with lost wages as second.
 Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
 March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
 Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can 
 see why this has been largely ignored.
 
 Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
 
 I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished granite 
 curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto the 
 sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in place.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I did not. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Either they stop if they can or you get hit. They have accidents with motor 
> vehicles pretty regularly from what I recall.
> 
> Did you ride a cable car? If not, you missed out on a pretty cool experience. 
> Especially if if you did the Powell/Mason line, as it has some seriously 
> steep hills. Riding on the running boards is not for the faint of heart.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of 
>> these streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens 
>> if one is coming at you and you can’t move over?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of 
>>> streets served as the ground.
>>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done 
>>> by a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>>> Gerry
>>> 
 Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
 They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
 conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
 
 -D
 
 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> Road.  Guess why.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
>> Penoff via Mercedes
>> 
>> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
>> 
>> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
>> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
>> Europe
>> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
>> powered
>> through the wires.
>> 
>> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
>> 1950s,
>> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get to see all of 
this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy it with a friend or family. 
I used to think about that a lot when I traveled, as in “The kids would really 
like this”, or, "I wish the wife could see this.”

Yeah, business travel is cool in that you get to see a lot of neat stuff, but 
it sicks that you’re on your own.

I do not miss it one bit.

-D


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have done 
> more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
>> street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
>> 
>> As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere in 
>> the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr a while it was 
>> closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I am not sure what the 
>> current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
>> 
>> SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes to 
>> whorlando, with lost wages as second.
>>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>>> March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
>>> Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can see 
>>> why this has been largely ignored.
>>> 
>>> Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
>>> 
>>> I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished granite 
>>> curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto the 
>>> sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in place.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Either they stop if they can or you get hit. They have accidents with motor 
vehicles pretty regularly from what I recall.

Did you ride a cable car? If not, you missed out on a pretty cool experience. 
Especially if if you did the Powell/Mason line, as it has some seriously steep 
hills. Riding on the running boards is not for the faint of heart.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:09 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
> streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
> is coming at you and you can’t move over?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
>> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
>> served as the ground.
>> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
>> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
>> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
>> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
>> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
>> Gerry
>> 
>>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
> On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
 Road.  Guess why.
 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> 
> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
> 
> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
> Europe
> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
> powered
> through the wires.
> 
> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
> 1950s,
> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

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I’m seeing a mild panic on the part of the County as it considers allowing 
remote work. While we have ASAs and VPN concentrators (the hardware that 
handles remote connections) that are licensed for thousands of users, but there 
has never been a situation where there have been massive amounts of users 
attempting to log in remotely, even during events like hurricanes.

If things continue in this direction, it could get ugly for our network team. 
Management just suspended all business travel effective immediately, too.

My boss was going on a cruise with his family on Thursday, but they’ve bailed. 
They were going with a group of people and some of them backed out. He said the 
cruise line refunded their money, no questions asked, and gave them a credit 
for a future sailing on top of the refund.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 10:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was just talking with a buddy who is a prof at the College of Charleston.  
> Tomorrow the school is going to have a "remote learning" day or some such 
> where kids can tune in to classes online.  The plan is to test their 
> bandwidth to deliver classes remotely.  He says this will be a sh*tsh*w as 
> the college has like a 56k modem for bandwidth.  He's going to record a 
> lecture and put it on the youtuber.  He's a real smart guy but he buys into 
> all this cable hype about the woohoofloo.
> 
> On another note I went to a concert last night and I noticed that most of the 
> guys in the gents were washing their hands as they were leaving the facility. 
>  The beer of choice was twennies of Bud, Budlite, and Ultra for some 
> outrageous amount.  I did not partake.
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 3/10/20 5:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> UF students who recently rallied for Israel at a conference with government 
>> officials were unknowingly exposed to two New York attendees who were later 
>> confirmed to have coronavirus.
>> 
>> AIPAC, or American Israel Public Affairs Committee, held its annual national 
>> policy conference in Washington, D.C, from March 1 to March 3. 
>> Vice-President Mike Pence and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were 
>> among the speakers who attended and discussed developments in the 
>> American-Israeli relationship.
>> 
>> Three days after the conference, two attendees tested positive for the 
>> virus, AIPAC announced in a tweet.
>> 
>> https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-students-exposed-to-coronavirus-at-pro-israel-conference/article_876a4cb2-61c6-11ea-8b5c-4344bc4818d8.html
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So one thing I wondered while out here but didn’t encounter. On some of these 
streets you are driving over the track for the cable car. What happens if one 
is coming at you and you can’t move over?

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:07 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, 
> one trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets 
> served as the ground.
> Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they 
> would pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, 
> the boys would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the 
> trolley and put the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by 
> a cable that wound up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
> Gerry
> 
>> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
>> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
>> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
 On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
>>> Road.  Guess why.
>>> 
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 Penoff via Mercedes
 
 Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
 
 Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
 providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
 Europe
 and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
 powered
 through the wires.
 
 Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
 1950s,
 and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
 
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Re: [MBZ] Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Louisville had the very old fashioned trolleys during the 1930s. One wire, one 
trolley, and I guess the railroad type tracks down the middle of streets served 
as the ground.
Bad boys would hang on the back, and when the trolley stopped again they would 
pull the trolley off the overhead wire. All the lights would go out, the boys 
would run, and the motorman would have to go to the back of the trolley and put 
the little wheel back on the overhead wire. That was done by a cable that wound 
up on a large spring loaded pulley on the back.
Gerry

> Same thing in Indianapolis. South side had “Stop 11, Stop 13", etc., etc. 
> They referred to it as the “interurban”. My maternal grandfather was a 
> conductor for some years on the interurban system there, so I’ve been told.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 3:01 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Had them in Dayton OH too.  There was a road north of town named "Stop 8 
> > Road.  Guess why.
> > 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> >> Penoff via Mercedes
> >> 
> >> Welcome to the way things used to work. And work well.
> >> 
> >> Catenary system, or “overhead wire” as it’s also known. Common method of
> >> providing power to trolleys, trains, and at one time, even busses. Go to 
> >> Europe
> >> and you’ll see most of the trains have these as they’re electric and 
> >> powered
> >> through the wires.
> >> 
> >> Many major cities had this setup for their trolleys or busses until the 
> >> 1950s,
> >> and some later (I recall Cincinnati having them when I was a kid.)
> >> 
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I could see spending a few days in SF doing tourist crap. I would have done 
more but it’s somewhat boring when you are alone.

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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 7:02 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> 
> Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
> street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.
> 
> As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but somewhere in 
> the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr a while it was 
> closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I am not sure what the 
> current status is, but i think it is still one way down.
> 
> SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes to 
> whorlando, with lost wages as second.
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
>> March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
>> Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can see 
>> why this has been largely ignored.
>> 
>> Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?
>> 
>> I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished granite 
>> curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto the 
>> sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in place.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I was just talking with a buddy who is a prof at the College of 
Charleston.  Tomorrow the school is going to have a "remote learning" 
day or some such where kids can tune in to classes online.  The plan is 
to test their bandwidth to deliver classes remotely.  He says this will 
be a sh*tsh*w as the college has like a 56k modem for bandwidth.  He's 
going to record a lecture and put it on the youtuber.  He's a real smart 
guy but he buys into all this cable hype about the woohoofloo.


On another note I went to a concert last night and I noticed that most 
of the guys in the gents were washing their hands as they were leaving 
the facility.  The beer of choice was twennies of Bud, Budlite, and 
Ultra for some outrageous amount.  I did not partake.


--FT

On 3/10/20 5:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

UF students who recently rallied for Israel at a conference with government 
officials were unknowingly exposed to two New York attendees who were later 
confirmed to have coronavirus.

AIPAC, or American Israel Public Affairs Committee, held its annual national 
policy conference in Washington, D.C, from March 1 to March 3. Vice-President 
Mike Pence and Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu were among the 
speakers who attended and discussed developments in the American-Israeli 
relationship.

Three days after the conference, two attendees tested positive for the virus, 
AIPAC announced in a tweet.

https://www.alligator.org/news/uf-students-exposed-to-coronavirus-at-pro-israel-conference/article_876a4cb2-61c6-11ea-8b5c-4344bc4818d8.html

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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Robert Ripley had it in his Believe it or Not books as the crookedest 
street, and he did consider SF.  I don't know what his criteria were.


As for driving, until the late 70s you could go up or down, but 
somewhere in the late 70s or early 80s they made it one way down.   FOr 
a while it was closed off, but then it was opend for one way down.   I 
am not sure what the current status is, but i think it is still one way 
down.


SF is hardly the vacation capital of the USA either.  That probably goes 
to whorlando, with lost wages as second.

Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
March 11, 2020 at 8:26 AM
Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I 
can see why this has been largely ignored.


Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?

I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished 
granite curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb 
onto the sidewalks, or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are 
still in place.


-D





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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

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Actually, the DC Metro is pretty nice as far as rail/subway systems go. Just 
don’t bring anything to eat.

-D

> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:36 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> 
> Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> DC Metrorail has started spraying the seats with disinfectant.  Smells
>> awful but hey, it works [hack, hack].
> 
> Doesn't it smell awful all the time? That's my memory of the el in
> Chicago -- a sort of oily electric smell with overtones of stale urine
> and sweat. I think I'd take the disinfectant.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

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Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  writes:

> DC Metrorail has started spraying the seats with disinfectant.  Smells
> awful but hey, it works [hack, hack].

Doesn't it smell awful all the time? That's my memory of the el in
Chicago -- a sort of oily electric smell with overtones of stale urine
and sweat. I think I'd take the disinfectant.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Yeah, Burlington, IA isn’t exactly the vacation capital of the US…I can see why 
this has been largely ignored.

Cool, though. Do they still let people drive on it?

I noticed the granite or marble curbs. Tampa used to have polished granite 
curbs downtown to keep the gators form being able to climb onto the sidewalks, 
or so I’ve been told. Many of the curbstones are still in place.

-D



> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
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> The other contender for crookedest street is Snake Alley.   I don't remember 
> the criteria, but in the 70s it was deemed the crookedest street.   It 
> appears the bigger clout of a big city has overpowered it for the title other 
> some other criteria.  Snake Alley reminds me of some of the roads in 
> Switzerland.
> 
> I've driven up and down Snake Alley many times.   One time I went down it in 
> a truck with a 16' van body.  That was fun.
> 
>> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>> March 11, 2020 at 7:40 AM
>> I drove on that street once and walked up it once
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

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Clay wrote: 
> > Washington University in St. Louis has banned students from returning to
> > campus who visited Seattle or Westchester, winchester, wensleydale county..
> > .the place in NY.

ROFLMAO!!! Takes me back to grade school!
Gerry

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