Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I really don't care for Joe Rogan. However, this guest is particularly 
knowledgeable about infectious disease. A good listen. 

https://youtu.be/E3URhJx0NSw

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

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I know that this isn't from Fox "news", but it is from the perspective of a
Dr. in Italy sharing her experiences treating this virus:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/voices/young-and-unafraid-of-the-pandemic-good-for-you-now-stop-killing-people/ar-BB113BXB?li=BBnb7Kz



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> It will be clear well before November whether this is blown out of
> proportion.
>
> I happen to think it is, not because of any special knowledge but
> because going back to the earliest virus panic I remember, which was the
> swine flu in the mid 1970s, the news was always more dire than the
> reality.
>
> Also, as time has gone by the news has become infused with drama and
> overt partisanship. This is further amplified now by social media.
>
> But I may be wrong this time. We'll know soon enough.
>
> Allan
>
> Craig via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:42:40 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot
> >> of business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the
> >> month has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things
> >> out or proportion?
> >
> > "The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the
> > economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Silicon valley coronavirus Update #3

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My boy is doing his fellowship at Stanford in pulmonary critical care. ICU type 
stuff. He’ll probably catch these cases. H. I checked in with him 
yesterday, he didn’t seem too perturbed but that is how he is now. 

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> 
> Silicon Valley Coronavirus update #3: I don't know where to begin. We are one 
> of the hotspots in the nation. We have community transmission with 
> exponential growth, locally. TSA workers in San Jose airport have tested 
> positive. Passengers from that cruise ship now docked in Oakland have been 
> transferred to a hotel in San Carlos, just down the street from me. There is 
> no traffic driving to and from work - I've been driving 75 mph and the 
> commute is less than half the time. Stanford is doing classes and finals 
> on-line. We have people just returned from Europe and South Korea that are 
> quarantined at home. Stanford hospital has their own test, but won't look at 
> you unless your fever is over 100 degrees. I have people in my directorate 
> that are not taking this seriously and seem more worried about continuing 
> their work than saving lives. NASA-Ames has their first case, and there are 3 
> cases amongst Stanford faculty. None at SLAC yet, but it will happen soon. We 
> are encouraging work from home. John started working from home today and I 
> will start tomorrow, as will Tom (despite how much fun it is to actually be 
> able to DRIVE instead of crawl to work). The guy at Costco said you had to be 
> there the first 30 mins they were open to get toilet paper...I admit that I 
> have hoarded food. I am so so worried about my Dad. I feel like I am living 
> in a science fiction movie.
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[MBZ] Silicon valley coronavirus Update #3

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Again, from my friend, who is highly placed at Stanford: SLAC

Silicon Valley Coronavirus update #3: I don't know where to begin. We 
are one of the hotspots in the nation. We have community transmission 
with exponential growth, locally. TSA workers in San Jose airport have 
tested positive. Passengers from that cruise ship now docked in Oakland 
have been transferred to a hotel in San Carlos, just down the street 
from me. There is no traffic driving to and from work - I've been 
driving 75 mph and the commute is less than half the time. Stanford is 
doing classes and finals on-line. We have people just returned from 
Europe and South Korea that are quarantined at home. Stanford hospital 
has their own test, but won't look at you unless your fever is over 100 
degrees. I have people in my directorate that are not taking this 
seriously and seem more worried about continuing their work than saving 
lives. NASA-Ames has their first case, and there are 3 cases amongst 
Stanford faculty. None at SLAC yet, but it will happen soon. We are 
encouraging work from home. John started working from home today and I 
will start tomorrow, as will Tom (despite how much fun it is to actually 
be able to DRIVE instead of crawl to work). The guy at Costco said you 
had to be there the first 30 mins they were open to get toilet paper...I 
admit that I have hoarded food. I am so so worried about my Dad. I feel 
like I am living in a science fiction movie.

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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car!!

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Those ‘73 steering wheels annoy me. 

Bob R

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> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Arabian gray with a red interior - not bad for an entry level diesel.
>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Here you go, buddy:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
>>> <
>>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
 
>>> 
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[MBZ] This is interesting WUZ:It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Craig via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 10:32 PM:


"The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the
economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue.


Craig

Note the date is 2016.   This was predicted.   We've had a "sky is 
falling" event each year since y2k in 1999.   It has become a very 
predictable pattern.  This particular event is not heavy on the #5 "one 
condition = one cause", but the others sure seem to be right on; 
particularly numbers 6 through 10.


More Americans need to throw out the tv and stop watching/listening 
to/reading the propaganda channels.



 Ebola, Swine Flu, Zika, SARS – The Anatomy of a False Flag Disease

Ebola-Swine-Flu-Zika-SARS-The-Anatomy-of-a-False-Flag-Disease-1 



6th April 2016

ByPaul A. Philips 

Guest writer forWake Up World 



There’s no better example of the deceptive world we live in than 
the/manufacture/of a disease. Epidemic or pandemic, whether it’s the 
zika virus or others such as ebola, swine flu, bird flu, SARS… all these 
diseases share a number of common repetitive patterns throughout their 
deceptive histories.


So, here are 10 common repetitive patterns making up the anatomy of a 
manufactured, ‘false flag’ disease.


**


   1. A disease outbreak suddenly finds its way into the spotlight of
   mass media attention.

Through unquestioning blind acceptance, going into agreement with the 
general consensus through mass media spin the sheep-like public 
immediately assume that the official authoritative view regarding the 
disease outbreak is correct…



   2. Questioning at the early stages reveals suspicious circumstances.

Those not readily accepting the official view, able to think for 
themselves, through questioning suspect that a deception may be at work:


For starters, something to immediately arouse suspicion at least at the 
early stages of the scare is the fact that these diseases have existed 
before and had only produced temporary mild feverish, flu-like 
symptoms. So why the sudden epidemic outbreak of a so-called deadly virus?



   3. Unfounded assertions, errors and contradictions.

As with other false flag diseases, the zika deadly virus claim was found 
by independent investigative journalists such as Jon Rappoport 
 to have a number of unfounded 
assertions, irreconcilable errors and contradictions:


The first stage when proving that a particular virus is responsible for 
an epidemic is to show its presence in every case or prove 
overwhelmingly by percentage. But in the realm of a false flag disease 
this doesn’t happen.


With, for example, the recent Zika pandemic outbreak In Brazil it was 
discovered that there were 404 cases not the suspected 4783: Then only 
17 of these 404 claimed cases could confirm the zika virus! But the 
Brazilian authorities ignored this and just went onto falsely claim that 
zika was responsible for microcephaly 
 (children 
born with abnormally small heads due to incomplete brain development).


Wasn’t this a case of bad science and bad lies? The Emperor has no clothes.

Then there was the case of the 2014 Ebola outbreak in West Africa. 
Here’s some good armoury for your false flag/false claims detection kit. 
Beware of 2 unreliable and untrustworthy tests: The PCR (Polymerise 
Chain Reaction) and antibody tests.


As with other diseases these tests were used to falsely claim that Ebola 
was responsible for the 2014 outbreak 
.


The PCR test is prone to mis-identification and contamination errors as 
it relies on growing such a tiny amount of viral fragment sample and can 
only produce qualitative results not quantitative, meaning that it 
cannot indicate whether or not a person has enough virus in them to get 
sick…


The antibody test if carried out correctly (as this test is frequently 
prone to errors) has the same problems in that it can only produce 
qualitative results. It can only tell if the person tested has 
antibodies for the specific virus. This would at least indicate that the 
person had at one time contracted the virus. However, it cannot tell 
whether or not the person presently has enough of the virus to get sick 
or have any virus in them at all.


Thus in both cases highly questionable results have been used to 
indicate sickness and disease.


Why does the Rockefeller Foundation hold a patent on the Zika virus 



/Why does the Rockefeller Foundation hold a patent on the Zika virus?/


   4. 

Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

It will be clear well before November whether this is blown out of
proportion.

I happen to think it is, not because of any special knowledge but
because going back to the earliest virus panic I remember, which was the
swine flu in the mid 1970s, the news was always more dire than the
reality.

Also, as time has gone by the news has become infused with drama and
overt partisanship. This is further amplified now by social media.

But I may be wrong this time. We'll know soon enough.

Allan

Craig via Mercedes  writes:

> On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:42:40 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
>> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot
>> of business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the
>> month has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things
>> out or proportion?
>
> "The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the
> economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

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On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:42:40 -0500 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot
> of business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the
> month has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things
> out or proportion?

"The powers that be" are blowing things out of proportion to destroy the
economy and rob Donald Trump of a campaign issue.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

>Gonna be a rough one 

I agree, but IMO it's going to be rough because of the overreaction and 
outright panic of the masses.  

>in fact, the major outbreak of novel disease many >epidemiologists have been 
>losing sleep over for th >last couple decades

This isn't it. Since the press has cried "fire!", the next time there is an 
outbreak of a deadly virus, and it's real, people won't respond because they 
won't believe the press. 

Rick


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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car!!

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Damn too far away

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> 
> Arabian gray with a red interior - not bad for an entry level diesel.
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 6:51 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Here you go, buddy:
>> 
>> 
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
>> <
>> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

While you're earnestly trying to "separate fact from fiction", every major
sporting event has been canceled or postponed, and the Smithsonian and
Kennedy Center in DC have closed their doors through the end of March.

I was told that all Fed government workers will be told to stay home and
telework starting Monday.  Not sure that will happen everywhere, but
probably in DC. at the least

The hope is that growth in new cases slows or reverses course after these
draconian measures have been underway.



On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:01 PM Curley McLain via Mercedes <
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> BTW, I am NOT saying it is not serious.  just trying to separate the
> facts from the fiction.
>
> There is a bit of the "boy who cried wolf" effect also and it is real.
> Since 1999, every year we have had a "Sky is Falling" event every year.
> So far, the sky is still above, and the sun comes up each day.
>
> Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 9:33 PM:
> > I'm afraid it's too late.  We just started restricting travel and
> banning large groups in the last couple days instead of eight weeks ago.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling that we already have more cases
> than Europe, we just don't know it yet.
> >
> > No way to tell because we didn't start producing test kits until last
> week instead of at the beginning of February, or better yet, mid January
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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The epicenter of PA avenue is Trump Inernational.

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> Hahaha!   Great one! Well, Don't forget the street the lobbyists are
> on.  Kst or something.
>
> Well by the time you consider all the critters, the staff, bureaucrats,
> cleptocrats,  etc, etc, it encompases all of DC and a 50-100 mile radius
> around.
>
> AKA the swamp...
>
> Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 6:28 PM:
> > Pennsylvania Avenue or whatever street the capitol building is on
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

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I bet that sorting the "moonroof" could easily cost more than the $1400
selling price.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 7:40 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Beats me. I know nothing of the “Sport” version. Kleb might, he gets all
> moist over the E430s.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yeah I see that, the lights are different?  Fascia difference from the
> basic E320?
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
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> >> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> It’s a Sport version - the badge is in one of the pictures.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Oh no, I see 216k.  Not too bad.  It has a weird front fascia though,
> my E320 has these sorta rectangular fog lights, these are round.  I wonder
> if it is the E430 or Sport version
> >>>
> >>> -_FT
> >>>
>  On 3/12/20 7:06 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>  yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably
> get it.  No miles listed though
> 
>  -_FT
> 
>  On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
> <
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb Car!!

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Arabian gray with a red interior - not bad for an entry level diesel.

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> Here you go, buddy:
>
>
> http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
> <
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

BTW, I am NOT saying it is not serious.  just trying to separate the 
facts from the fiction.


There is a bit of the "boy who cried wolf" effect also and it is real. 
Since 1999, every year we have had a "Sky is Falling" event every year. 
So far, the sky is still above, and the sun comes up each day.


Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 9:33 PM:

I'm afraid it's too late.  We just started restricting travel and banning large 
groups in the last couple days instead of eight weeks ago.

Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling that we already have more cases than 
Europe, we just don't know it yet.

No way to tell because we didn't start producing test kits until last week 
instead of at the beginning of February, or better yet, mid January when things 
started going out of control in China.
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

hmmm.

washington compost and nytimes both say that travel was restricted Jan 31.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/31/business/china-travel-coronavirus.html
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2020/01/31/trump-weighs-tighter-china-travel-restrictions-response-coronavirus/ 



And then there is
https://www.kpbs.org/news/2020/jan/31/trump-declares-coronavirus-a-public-health/ 



None of these sources are famous for supporting the President.

Seems to me that control measures started at least 6 weeks ago. You say 
we should have shut down everything 8 weeks ago.  At that time (Jan12) 
there were on ly 41 cases in China, and we were just starting to learn 
about it, despite the chicoms efforts to hide the disease.   The doctor 
who blew the whistle was "diseased" on Jan 10, but still alive.


"


 " 11 January[edit
 
]

The first two patients in Shenzhen city transferred into negative 
pressure room in Third People's Hospital of Shenzhen City due to 
matching lab test result, symptoms, and epidemiology and are being 
listed as suspected cases. The cases was not confirmed at the time, 
because requirement from the Chinese government at the time was that 
first case in each individual cities need to be submitted to provincial 
CDC, verified by national CDC, and then evaluated and confirmed by a 
specific diagnostic team in national CDC.^[67] 
" 



(wikipedia)   woohoofloo timeline.

Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 9:33 PM:
I'm afraid it's too late.  We just started restricting travel and banning large groups in the last couple days instead of eight weeks ago. 



Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling that we already have more cases than Europe, we just don't know it yet. 



No way to tell because we didn't start producing test kits until last week instead of at the beginning of February, or better yet, mid January when things started going out of control in China. 



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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Michael Esh via Mercedes]

Well said.  My son was just told to go home from his Michigan state college 
until further notice.  All classes will be online.
My take is they are trying to slow the process down so the hospitals are not 
overrun. 
  
Michael E. Esh


> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> This is actually real.  Very contagious, more so that flu (3.5 persons 
> infected on average by every contagious person) and a death rate from 2 to 
> 5%, heavily skewed to older (60 +) individuals.
> 
> Serious disease rate is around 20% -- that, requiring hospitalization.
> 
> China managed to stop it by putting the entire population of some fairly 
> large cities essentially on house arrest
> 
> My personal estimation is that a very large number of people are already 
> infected in the US, this particular disease is at the exponential increase 
> stage since we are doing essentially nothing to control it yet, with the 
> potential to infect a million or so people, put 200,000 extra people in the 
> hospital in the next few weeks, and end up with 30,000 extra deaths IF we get 
> moving and stop the spread.
> 
> If we don't figure millions infected, tens of thousands of extra deaths, 
> hospitals unable to treat patients for anything, extra deaths from flu and 
> all sorts of other things, and a MAJOR economic recession.
> 
> Gonna be a rough one -- in fact, the major outbreak of novel disease many 
> epidemiologists have been losing sleep over for th last couple decades.
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

I'm afraid it's too late.  We just started restricting travel and banning large 
groups in the last couple days instead of eight weeks ago.

Unfortunately, I have a sinking feeling that we already have more cases than 
Europe, we just don't know it yet.

No way to tell because we didn't start producing test kits until last week 
instead of at the beginning of February, or better yet, mid January when things 
started going out of control in China.
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Surely you would admit that without the travel bans, increased 
handwashing, decreased travel, closing many gatherings that attract 
large groups, and other precautions that Americans have implemented, that

"something" has been done to "control it."

Without these controls, i would speculate that it would be as bad as or 
worse here now as it is now in Yurp?


Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 9:12 PM:

since we are doing essentially nothing to control it yet



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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Xackly!    Why don't we shut down the mouse, the NBA and all the 
tournaments every winter for the flu, which kills 30,000 to 60,000 each 
year?    "IF WE COULD SAVE JUST  ONE LIFE"    that works for 
everything else, except the flu, medical error, cancer, heart disease, 
etc, that really kill real people.    Now, with 38 dead, and 2/3 of 
those from one nursing home, the mediaocrats are hyping this as their 
last hope to get a cranky old commie or a hopelessly befuddled old man 
elected as prez.


I, for one, would much rather listen to Armed American radio or Big 
Billy Kinder Outdoors on the radio rather than the endless fooball, 
basketball and yes, even kollege baseball on the radio.   And what is 
way worse, is the endless hours of 2 morons babbling for hours on end 
about nothing, so long as it related to some team or some player, or 
their brother's mother in laws uncles kid.


Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 8:39 PM:

I think we're seeing a nasty feedback loop. The media and the democrats (but I 
repeat myself) are hyping this really hard, trying to drive panic that will 
cause a recession, and hope that helps their election odds. Trump is 
over-reacting in order to show that he's doing something, to help his 
re-election. If both sides would focus on a measured appropriate response, in 
the best interests of the country, we'd be just fine. Instead they are making a 
mountain from a mole hill.

Normal seasonal flu is still more deadly.

The swine flu killed over a thousand Americans before barry declared an 
emergency, no panic back then.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

This is actually real.  Very contagious, more so that flu (3.5 persons infected 
on average by every contagious person) and a death rate from 2 to 5%, heavily 
skewed to older (60 +) individuals.

Serious disease rate is around 20% -- that, requiring hospitalization.

China managed to stop it by putting the entire population of some fairly large 
cities essentially on house arrest

My personal estimation is that a very large number of people are already 
infected in the US, this particular disease is at the exponential increase 
stage since we are doing essentially nothing to control it yet, with the 
potential to infect a million or so people, put 200,000 extra people in the 
hospital in the next few weeks, and end up with 30,000 extra deaths IF we get 
moving and stop the spread.

If we don't figure millions infected, tens of thousands of extra deaths, 
hospitals unable to treat patients for anything, extra deaths from flu and all 
sorts of other things, and a MAJOR economic recession.

Gonna be a rough one -- in fact, the major outbreak of novel disease many 
epidemiologists have been losing sleep over for th last couple decades.
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

YES!   absolutly!    Wodka reference intended

Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 7:42 PM:

With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or proportion?





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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

Hahaha!   Great one! Well, Don't forget the street the lobbyists are 
on.  Kst or something.


Well by the time you consider all the critters, the staff, bureaucrats, 
cleptocrats,  etc, etc, it encompases all of DC and a 50-100 mile radius 
around.


AKA the swamp...

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 6:28 PM:

Pennsylvania Avenue or whatever street the capitol building is on

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

They are making it political that’s for sure. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I think we're seeing a nasty feedback loop. The media and the democrats (but 
> I repeat myself) are hyping this really hard, trying to drive panic that will 
> cause a recession, and hope that helps their election odds. Trump is 
> over-reacting in order to show that he's doing something, to help his 
> re-election. If both sides would focus on a measured appropriate response, in 
> the best interests of the country, we'd be just fine. Instead they are making 
> a mountain from a mole hill.
> 
> Normal seasonal flu is still more deadly.
> 
> The swine flu killed over a thousand Americans before barry declared an 
> emergency, no panic back then.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Mar 12, 2020 8:43:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :
> 
>> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
>> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month 
>> has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
>> proportion?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Pandemic or Dempanic?  You decide! 

--FT
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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 9:40 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The media and the democrats (but I repeat myself) are hyping this really 
> hard, trying to drive panic

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Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yes I found the political stuff a bit distracting also. But public health
is inherently political and this will become a huge campaign issue.

I have not heard any other first hand accounts out of Italy. They get high
marks for the coverage at least.



On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 10:42 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> A bit too left leaning for my taste. Some good facts presented.
>
>
> Rick
>
>
>
>   Original Message
>
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: March 11, 2020 10:28 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: atypical...@gmail.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)
>
>
> For the "it's like the flu" crowd, a little RWN interview with a guy
> currently quarantined in Italy. Link will self destruct in a day or so.
> Good listen.
>
> https://s.amsu.ng/jPVevF5rAg3N
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think we're seeing a nasty feedback loop. The media and the democrats (but I 
repeat myself) are hyping this really hard, trying to drive panic that will 
cause a recession, and hope that helps their election odds. Trump is 
over-reacting in order to show that he's doing something, to help his 
re-election. If both sides would focus on a measured appropriate response, in 
the best interests of the country, we'd be just fine. Instead they are making a 
mountain from a mole hill.

Normal seasonal flu is still more deadly.

The swine flu killed over a thousand Americans before barry declared an 
emergency, no panic back then.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Mar 12, 2020 8:43:30 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
> been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
> proportion?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

As far as I can tell it's a fairly mild illness. The people who die were 
waiting for something like the flu to get them. Young people don't seem to be 
effected at all.
At this point I'm bored with all the yapping from those that know nothing but 
want to buy toilet paper anyway...
Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:07 PM, archer75--- via 
Mercedes wrote:   On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:42:40 -0500
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
> been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
> proportion?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
...
I've been trolling most of the day trying to figure out just how serious this 
thing is.
Bloomberg, which is usually pretty accurate, says the stock market is the 
lowest since the 1987 bust, and that the chances of a recession are 80 percent.
Probably 90-95% of large gatherings nationwide have been closed down. Air 
travel from Europe (the EU) has been suspended. I could write several pages 
about the public and private businesses and gatherings that have been closed to 
the public.
Some of this is obviously panic and hype, but IMO most of it is valid. I would 
love for someone to tell me I'm wrong. 
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Today I bought more stocks, my plan is to keep buying into this weakness over 
the next couple or three weeks until all my cash is in the market, then ride it 
back up for a year or two.

I think with today's losses, the indexes are set back about one year in time.

Mar 12, 2020 8:56:30 PM Craig via Mercedes :
>
> I had a bond come due yesterday and will have a CD come due next week.
>
> I told my broker to keep the proceeds in cash.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

The answer lies somewhere in between. I have decided to just go about my 
business. If I don’t get snakebit or hit by a truck or t-boned at an 
intersection I might or might not be infected. Right now it would be hard to 
tell in amongst the pollen whack on my respiratory system and eyes if I have 
the coronavid19 or not. 

--FT
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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 9:07 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Some of this is obviously panic and hype, but IMO most of it is valid. I 
> would love for someone to tell me I'm wrong. 
> Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Good one 藍

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020, 7:29 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Pennsylvania Avenue or whatever street the capitol building is on
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The other contender for crookedest street is
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 19:42:40 -0500
Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  wrote:

> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
> been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
> proportion?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
...
I've been trolling most of the day trying to figure out just how serious this 
thing is.
Bloomberg, which is usually pretty accurate, says the stock market is the 
lowest since the 1987 bust, and that the chances of a recession are 80 percent.
Probably 90-95% of large gatherings nationwide have been closed down. Air 
travel from Europe (the EU) has been suspended. I could write several pages 
about the public and private businesses and gatherings that have been closed to 
the public.
Some of this is obviously panic and hype, but IMO most of it is valid. I would 
love for someone to tell me I'm wrong. 
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Never been there. Maybe it will be a ghost town around there. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> They just announced that it was Disney World, too.
> 
> If you’ve never been to Orlando, you can’t begin to grasp how much literally 
> everything there hinges on the Mouse. It drives their economy.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> World too? I thought I was just land. The impact to the economy will be far 
>> worse than the danger from the virus 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Disney World is closing down. That’s serious. The Mouse closes for no man. 
>>> This will put a HUGE ding in the economy in Orlando. Everything revolves 
>>> around the Mouse.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
 business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month 
 has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
 proportion?
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

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On Wed, 11 Mar 2020 13:14:34 -0400 Meade Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I'm making smaller moves, just 2% or so, buying on weakness.
> 
> I think we've gotten all the bad news we can get, or anticipated all the
> bad news that might happen, so the market has priced all that in now.
> 
> The other 'possible' bad news that we won't know until later is who the
> next President will be.  Trump, and markets will keep climbing.
> Democrat, and I'm betting the markets will level off or even drop.  I
> won't sell in the case of the latter, the stock market will still be
> the best investment vehicle out there in my opinion.  However in the
> case of the former, I may move some of my cash back into the market for
> a few months or so to ride the wave up.

I had a bond come due yesterday and will have a CD come due next week.

I told my broker to keep the proceeds in cash.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They just announced that it was Disney World, too.

If you’ve never been to Orlando, you can’t begin to grasp how much literally 
everything there hinges on the Mouse. It drives their economy.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:52 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> World too? I thought I was just land. The impact to the economy will be far 
> worse than the danger from the virus 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Disney World is closing down. That’s serious. The Mouse closes for no man. 
>> This will put a HUGE ding in the economy in Orlando. Everything revolves 
>> around the Mouse.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
>>> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month 
>>> has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
>>> proportion?
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

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World too? I thought I was just land. The impact to the economy will be far 
worse than the danger from the virus 

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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:49 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Disney World is closing down. That’s serious. The Mouse closes for no man. 
> This will put a HUGE ding in the economy in Orlando. Everything revolves 
> around the Mouse.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
>> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month 
>> has been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
>> proportion?
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Re: [MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

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Disney World is closing down. That’s serious. The Mouse closes for no man. This 
will put a HUGE ding in the economy in Orlando. Everything revolves around the 
Mouse.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:42 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
> business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
> been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or 
> proportion?
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[MBZ] It’s hard to tell fact from fiction

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

With all of these places closing down, our company is suspending a lot of 
business travel and our scheduled company meeting at the end of the month has 
been postponed is this actually real or people blowing things out or proportion?

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Beats me. I know nothing of the “Sport” version. Kleb might, he gets all moist 
over the E430s.

-D



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:26 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah I see that, the lights are different?  Fascia difference from the basic 
> E320?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> It’s a Sport version - the badge is in one of the pictures.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh no, I see 216k.  Not too bad.  It has a weird front fascia though, my 
>>> E320 has these sorta rectangular fog lights, these are round.  I wonder if 
>>> it is the E430 or Sport version
>>> 
>>> -_FT
>>> 
 On 3/12/20 7:06 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
 yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably get 
 it.  No miles listed though
 
 -_FT
 
 On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
>  
> 
>  
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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Pennsylvania Avenue or whatever street the capitol building is on

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:05 AM, Curley McLain via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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> The other contender for crookedest street is

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah I see that, the lights are different?  Fascia difference from the basic 
E320?

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:17 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> It’s a Sport version - the badge is in one of the pictures.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh no, I see 216k.  Not too bad.  It has a weird front fascia though, my 
>> E320 has these sorta rectangular fog lights, these are round.  I wonder if 
>> it is the E430 or Sport version
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>>> On 3/12/20 7:06 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>>> yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably get 
>>> it.  No miles listed though
>>> 
>>> -_FT
>>> 
>>> On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
  
 
  
 
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s a Sport version - the badge is in one of the pictures.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2020, at 7:09 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Oh no, I see 216k.  Not too bad.  It has a weird front fascia though, my E320 
> has these sorta rectangular fog lights, these are round.  I wonder if it is 
> the E430 or Sport version
> 
> -_FT
> 
> On 3/12/20 7:06 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
>> yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably get it. 
>>  No miles listed though
>> 
>> -_FT
>> 
>> On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
>>>  
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Oh no, I see 216k.  Not too bad.  It has a weird front fascia though, my 
E320 has these sorta rectangular fog lights, these are round.  I wonder 
if it is the E430 or Sport version


-_FT

On 3/12/20 7:06 PM, Floyd Thursby wrote:
yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably 
get it.  No miles listed though


-_FT

On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html 
 



-D

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Re: [MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah that looks pretty good if it runs OK, $1200 cash would probably get 
it.  No miles listed though


-_FT

On 3/12/20 6:59 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
 


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[MBZ] Here's a Good Deal

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/saint-petersburg-1999-mercedes-e430/7092315149.html
 


-D

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[MBZ] Kleb Car!!

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Here you go, buddy:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-benz-cars-sale/404169-1973-220d.html
 


-D
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Re: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

PM me the VIN.

-D


> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
> making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front
> suspension is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like
> big GM iron from the 70s and 80s.
> 
> Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and
> get them from a dealership?
> -
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> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

If you go aftermarket (e.g. FCP) try to find out where the parts are made.
Brand names (e.g. LEMFÖRDER, Mahle, etc.) don't seem to mean much anymore.
But parts made in EU should be OK.  

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Subject: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front suspension
is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like big GM iron
from the 70s and 80s.

Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and get
them from a dealership?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[Curley McLain via Mercedes]

FCP  lifetime

Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote on 3/12/20 2:20 PM:

Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front
suspension is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like
big GM iron from the 70s and 80s.

Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and
get them from a dealership?
-
Max
Charleston SC




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Re: [MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Dealership only, and they’re not that much more expensive. Better hurry, 
though, as some have recently become NLA.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 3:20 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
> making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front
> suspension is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like
> big GM iron from the 70s and 80s.
> 
> Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and
> get them from a dealership?
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] crookedest street WUZ Good spots for lunch and dinner in SF

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> Dan wrote:

> That’s the sucky part of business travel. It’s fun that you get
> to see all of this cool stuff, but it sucks that you can’t enjoy
> it with a friend or family. I used to think about that a lot
> when I traveled, as in “The kids would really like this”, or, "I
> wish the wife could see this.”

Yeah...

Truck driving is worse.  Most of the cool stuff is only seen from
just out of reach - due to roads and/or time.  There sure have
been a lot of really cool places to visit that I got to drive
past...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

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The airports should sell the slots to the highest bidder, let the airlines
(market) decide who get's 'em.
-
Max
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On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 3:17 PM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> What?? The FAA, an arm of the government, making an idiotic rule?
> How could that be possible?
> "We are the FAA and we are not happy until you are not happy."
> [sarcasm off]
> My good friend who is a top level FAA accident investigator drives a
> Mercedes, just for Mercedes content.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:11 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This sounds like an idiotic rule from the getgo, designed to protect
> > airlines at the expense of passengers.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished:
> > Thursday,
> > > March 12, 2020
> > >
> > > Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to
> > fly
> > > nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
> > > major airports.
> > >
> > > The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule
> > through
> > > May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
> > > coronavirus outbreak.
> > >
> > > The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
> > > congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots
> > or
> > > risk forfeiting them.
> > >
> > > The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big
> > planes
> > > flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called
> on
> > > regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes
> > carrying
> > > few passengers.
> > >
> > > The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
> > > airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
> > > Washington.
> > >
> > > The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights
> > through
> > > May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
> > > Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
> > > Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San
> > Francisco
> > > International Airport.
> > >
> > > The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's
> > announcement
> > > came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to
> > waive
> > > its similar rule.
> > >
> > > The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the
> > slot-use
> > > rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for
> air
> > > travel.
> > >
> > > "Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
> > > official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *—
> > David
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[MBZ] Source for 124 front lower control arms?

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Driving the $500 '94 wagon this morning, I realized that the front end is
making too many clunks, I'm guessing that at 195k miles the front
suspension is ripe for overhaul.  Front struts are shot, car floats like
big GM iron from the 70s and 80s.

Are any of the aftermarket worth a look, or should I bite the bullet and
get them from a dealership?
-
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Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

[G Mann via Mercedes]

What?? The FAA, an arm of the government, making an idiotic rule?
How could that be possible?
"We are the FAA and we are not happy until you are not happy."
[sarcasm off]
My good friend who is a top level FAA accident investigator drives a
Mercedes, just for Mercedes content.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:11 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> This sounds like an idiotic rule from the getgo, designed to protect
> airlines at the expense of passengers.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished:
> Thursday,
> > March 12, 2020
> >
> > Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to
> fly
> > nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
> > major airports.
> >
> > The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule
> through
> > May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
> > coronavirus outbreak.
> >
> > The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
> > congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots
> or
> > risk forfeiting them.
> >
> > The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big
> planes
> > flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called on
> > regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes
> carrying
> > few passengers.
> >
> > The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
> > airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
> > Washington.
> >
> > The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights
> through
> > May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
> > Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
> > Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San
> Francisco
> > International Airport.
> >
> > The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's
> announcement
> > came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to
> waive
> > its similar rule.
> >
> > The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the
> slot-use
> > rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for air
> > travel.
> >
> > "Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
> > official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *—
> David
> > Koenig, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

This sounds like an idiotic rule from the getgo, designed to protect
airlines at the expense of passengers.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:49 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished: Thursday,
> March 12, 2020
>
> Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to fly
> nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
> major airports.
>
> The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule through
> May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
> coronavirus outbreak.
>
> The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
> congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots or
> risk forfeiting them.
>
> The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big planes
> flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called on
> regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes carrying
> few passengers.
>
> The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
> airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
> Washington.
>
> The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights through
> May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
> Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
> Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San Francisco
> International Airport.
>
> The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's announcement
> came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to waive
> its similar rule.
>
> The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the slot-use
> rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for air
> travel.
>
> "Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
> official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *— David
> Koenig, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's good to know Dan, maybe I can fix this pump then.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 1:34 PM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Yeah, that’s one of the “smart” pumps. They can be opened and serviced. No
> electronics to speak of if they like the W140 and W210 versions, but some
> contacts that can be adjusted to control state change (pressure/vacuum) and
> high/low pressure/vacuum thresholds.
>
> Lots of info on BW on these as I recall.
>
> -D
>
> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looks like this pump was common to all the 124 cars as well as others.
> >
> >
> https://www.programainc.com/item_detail.aspx?idproduct=107=0=124%20800%2021%2048
> >
> > I've got the pump from Wilton's sedan, should be able to swap that in and
> > have an answer.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

That did cross my mind, but naaah.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:56 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So now they will be free to cancel flights easier that are not nearly
> completely full.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished:
> Thursday,
> > March 12, 2020
> >
> > Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to
> fly
> > nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
> > major airports.
> >
> > The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule
> through
> > May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
> > coronavirus outbreak.
> >
> > The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
> > congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots
> or
> > risk forfeiting them.
> >
> > The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big
> planes
> > flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called on
> > regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes
> carrying
> > few passengers.
> >
> > The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
> > airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
> > Washington.
> >
> > The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights
> through
> > May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
> > Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
> > Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San
> Francisco
> > International Airport.
> >
> > The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's
> announcement
> > came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to
> waive
> > its similar rule.
> >
> > The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the
> slot-use
> > rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for air
> > travel.
> >
> > "Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
> > official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *—
> David
> > Koenig, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

He's like the schoolyard bully who had a BB gun to counter your slingshot.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:55 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> AKA "The Brirriant Reader"
>
> --FT
>
> On 3/12/20 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
> > "Rocket Man" is the code name for the exalted leader of N. Korea... ie...
> > he keeps sending up "test rockets" which can or will be used for delivery
> > of his nuke warheads... and refuses to stop his nuke weapon program...
> thus
> > "Rocket Man".
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the
> >> ayatollah
> >>> within the week.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
>  Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
> 
>  On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> > Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and
> >>> chuck-u
> > schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be
> >> there
>  to
> > advise.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
>  President
> >> Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for
> >> coronavirus.
> > Fabio
> >> Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,
> >>> tested
> >> positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood
> >>> next
>  to
> >> Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> > “isn’t
> >> concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
> > report*.
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> >>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >>>
> >>> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> >> who
> >>> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric
> fence
> >>> for themselves."
> >>>
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> >>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> >>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] Norfolk was not a big airport....

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

But it sure a long time to get thru baggage check because they move at snails 
pace. 

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

So now they will be free to cancel flights easier that are not nearly 
completely full. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished: Thursday,
> March 12, 2020
> 
> Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to fly
> nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
> major airports.
> 
> The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule through
> May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
> coronavirus outbreak.
> 
> The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
> congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots or
> risk forfeiting them.
> 
> The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big planes
> flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called on
> regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes carrying
> few passengers.
> 
> The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
> airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
> Washington.
> 
> The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights through
> May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
> Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
> Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San Francisco
> International Airport.
> 
> The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's announcement
> came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to waive
> its similar rule.
> 
> The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the slot-use
> rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for air
> travel.
> 
> "Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
> official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *— David
> Koenig, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

AKA "The Brirriant Reader"

--FT

On 3/12/20 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

"Rocket Man" is the code name for the exalted leader of N. Korea... ie...
he keeps sending up "test rockets" which can or will be used for delivery
of his nuke warheads... and refuses to stop his nuke weapon program... thus
"Rocket Man".

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com>
wrote:


He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the

ayatollah

within the week.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and

chuck-u

schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be

there

to

advise.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


*BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice

President

Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for

coronavirus.

Fabio

Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,

tested

positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood

next

to

Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he

“isn’t

concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool

report*.

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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few

who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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[MBZ] OT: Prepare for fewer empty plane flights

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

FAA waives rules that led airlines to fly empty planesPublished: Thursday,
March 12, 2020

Federal regulators waived a rule yesterday that was causing airlines to fly
nearly empty planes just to avoid losing takeoff and landing rights at
major airports.

The Federal Aviation Administration said it would suspend the rule through
May 31 to help airlines that are canceling flights because of the new
coronavirus outbreak.

The FAA assigns takeoff and landing rights, or "slots," at a few big,
congested airports. Airlines must use 80% of their highly coveted slots or
risk forfeiting them.

The slot-use rule has led to the phenomenon of "ghost flights" — big planes
flying around with eerily empty cabins. Environmental activists called on
regulators to waive the rule to limit carbon emissions from planes carrying
few passengers.

The FAA's decision affects flights at John F. Kennedy and LaGuardia
airports in New York and Reagan Washington National Airport outside
Washington.

The FAA said it also would not punish airlines that cancel flights through
May 31 at four other airports where the agency approves schedules:
Chicago's O'Hare International Airport, Newark Liberty International
Airport in New Jersey, Los Angeles International Airport and San Francisco
International Airport.

The FAA waiver covers U.S. and foreign airlines. The agency's announcement
came a day after the European Commission promised to move quickly to waive
its similar rule.

The president of United Airlines said it was crazy to enforce the slot-use
rule in the middle of a virus outbreak that has devastated demand for air
travel.

"Flying empty airplanes to protect slots? How ridiculous is that?" the
official, Scott Kirby, said during an investor conference Tuesday. *— David
Koenig, Associated Press*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Corona virus deaths in Iran vastly understated

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Yes, but my point is that Iranian government has obviously covered this up
while the virus spread like wildfire.  Same thing happened in China before
they clamped down.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 2:15 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Sounds scary but (to date) there are only 39 deaths in US and most of
> those were from one nursing home in Seattle area.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:03 PM
>
> Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space Iranian
> authorities began digging a pair of trenches for victims just days after
> the government disclosed the initial outbreak. Together, their lengths are
> that of a football field.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Corona virus deaths in Iran vastly understated

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Sounds scary but (to date) there are only 39 deaths in US and most of those 
were from one nursing home in Seattle area.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 2:03 PM

Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space Iranian authorities 
began digging a pair of trenches for victims just days after the government 
disclosed the initial outbreak. Together, their lengths are that of a football 
field.



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[MBZ] OT: Corona virus deaths in Iran vastly understated

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Coronavirus burial pits so vast they’re visible from space Iranian
authorities began digging a pair of trenches for victims just days after
the government disclosed the initial outbreak. Together, their lengths are
that of a football field.

*  March 12, 2020   *

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graphic requires JavaScript. Please enable JavaScript for the best
experience. amp;amp;lt;/divamp;amp;gt;

* Two days after Iran declared its first cases of the novel coronavirus —
in what would become one of the largest outbreaks of the illness outside of
China — evidence of unusual activity appeared at a cemetery near where the
infections emerged. At the Behesht-e Masoumeh complex in Qom, about 80
miles south of Tehran, the excavation of a new section of the graveyard
began as early as Feb. 21, satellite images show, and then rapidly expanded
as the virus spread. By the end of the month, two large trenches — their
lengths totaling 100 yards — were visible at the site from space. According
to expert analysis, video testimony and official statements, the graves
were dug to accommodate the rising number of virus victims in Qom. *
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[dan--- via Mercedes]

We used to have a “Rocketman” on the old lists. A very sage and knowledgeable 
contributor whose comments often ended up on the “Quotes” page.

I have often wondered what happened to him. I don’t believe anyone ever met him 
in person.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:40 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> "Rocket Man" is the code name for the exalted leader of N. Korea... ie...
> he keeps sending up "test rockets" which can or will be used for delivery
> of his nuke warheads... and refuses to stop his nuke weapon program... thus
> "Rocket Man".
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?
>> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the
>> ayatollah
>>> within the week.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
 Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
 
 On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
> Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and
>>> chuck-u
> schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be
>> there
 to
> advise.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
 President
>> Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for
>> coronavirus.
> Fabio
>> Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,
>>> tested
>> positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood
>>> next
 to
>> Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> “isn’t
>> concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
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>>> 
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>> who
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>>> for themselves."
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[G Mann via Mercedes]

"Rocket Man" is the code name for the exalted leader of N. Korea... ie...
he keeps sending up "test rockets" which can or will be used for delivery
of his nuke warheads... and refuses to stop his nuke weapon program... thus
"Rocket Man".

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 9:23 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the
> ayatollah
> > within the week.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and
> > chuck-u
> > > > schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be
> there
> > > to
> > > > advise.
> > > > -
> > > > Max
> > > > Charleston SC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
> > > President
> > > > > Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for
> coronavirus.
> > > > Fabio
> > > > > Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,
> > tested
> > > > > positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood
> > next
> > > to
> > > > > Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> > > > “isn’t
> > > > > concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
> > > > report*.
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> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few
> who
> > learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> > for themselves."
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Yeah, that’s one of the “smart” pumps. They can be opened and serviced. No 
electronics to speak of if they like the W140 and W210 versions, but some 
contacts that can be adjusted to control state change (pressure/vacuum) and 
high/low pressure/vacuum thresholds.

Lots of info on BW on these as I recall.

-D

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:02 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Looks like this pump was common to all the 124 cars as well as others.
> 
> https://www.programainc.com/item_detail.aspx?idproduct=107=0=124%20800%2021%2048
> 
> I've got the pump from Wilton's sedan, should be able to swap that in and
> have an answer.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM dan--- via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later
>> models, or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?
>> 
>> I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure
>> actuated snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to
>> pressure and vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or
>> less junk.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
 ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the
>> faulty component.
>>> 
>>> Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this
>> point diving into the
>>> pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but
>> re-capping too while
>>> you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in
>> case the operation
>>> is not successful.
>>> 
>>> -- Jim
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[MBZ] Drugs for Covid

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

South Korea experts recommend anti-HIV, anti-malaria drugs for COVID-19

March 12 (UPI) -- South Korean disease experts have begun to recommend the use 
of a combination of antiviral and anti-malaria drugs for patients of the new 
strain of coronavirus.

Kwon Jun-wook, deputy head of the Korea Centers for Disease Control and 
Prevention, said Thursday at a regular press briefing the recommendations come 
from multiple groups, and that the government is ready to apply the 
recommendations to patients "where necessary," Newsis reported. 

https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/12/South-Korea-experts-recommend-anti-HIV-anti-malaria-drugs-for-COVID-19/6961584012321/?ds=4

Also:  
https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/a-promising-antiviral-is-being-tested-for-the-coronavirus-but-results-are-not-yet-out/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

And don't forget Boris Johnson.  Who is rocket man?

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:19 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the ayatollah
> within the week.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and
> chuck-u
> > > schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be there
> > to
> > > advise.
> > > -
> > > Max
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
> > President
> > > > Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for coronavirus.
> > > Fabio
> > > > Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro,
> tested
> > > > positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood
> next
> > to
> > > > Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> > > “isn’t
> > > > concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
> > > report*.
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> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> "There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
> learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
> for themselves."
>
> WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[OK Don via Mercedes]

He should have in person meetings with rocket man, putin, and the ayatollah
within the week.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:17 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and chuck-u
> > schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be there
> to
> > advise.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice
> President
> > > Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for coronavirus.
> > Fabio
> > > Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, tested
> > > positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood next
> to
> > > Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> > “isn’t
> > > concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
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-- 
OK Don

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

"There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few who
learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves."

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Don't forget Eric and Donnie Jr.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:06 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and chuck-u
> schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be there to
> advise.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:55 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice President
> > Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for coronavirus.
> Fabio
> > Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, tested
> > positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood next to
> > Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he
> “isn’t
> > concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool
> report*.
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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

The stripped lower receiver is the serial-numbered part, which the ATF treats 
as a gun, so it must be shipped to a licensed, in-state gun dealer (the kit can 
be shipped to your door).  That dealer will charge a fee ($20-40 typical) for 
the federal "instant" background check and Form 4473 (plus whatever your state 
requires) when he transfers the lower receiver to you.  Same as buying any 
other gun.

The upper receiver/barrel in the kit is already assembled, which is good 
because you would need a few special tools to assemble one and alignment is 
critical (e.g. headspace).  

Assembling the lower receiver is not hard, maybe an hour the first time (and 10 
minutes after that).  The main thing is not to lose any of the small parts that 
are under spring pressure, like the detents for the takedown and pivot pins.  
There are many good instructional videos online but I like to print a set 
instructions so I can consult them as I go.  Here is one tried-and true set: 
https://www.ar15.com/guides/files/tutorials/assembly/lower/index.html?gid=183

The hype about AR-15s is as bad as COVID-19, or worse.  AR-15 is a standardized 
design (interchangeable parts from many suppliers) at a reasonable cost.  Some 
brands are better than others but you will never notice unless you shoot 
thousands of rounds.  Anybody who can work on a Benz can build and maintain one 
(Mercedes content).  The AR-15 is easy to shoot, especially compared to a real 
battle rifle (30-06 or .308).  Ammo is cheap and less powerful than any deer 
rifle.  There are many, many reasons why it is the most popular rifle in the 
US.  I assume it is vilified for the same reason: there are so many of them.

-Original Message-
From: Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2020 8:03 AM

...
Yes, it seems one can be purchased for $50 or so. Will need to get that too. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good deal indeed.  I've paid up to $500 for these. The kit still requires 
> lower receiver.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: Mercedes 
>> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!
>> 
>> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the 
>> zombie apocalypse.
>> 
>> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes 
>> in finish.
>> 
>> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-
>> 7- nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Trump should immediately request a meeting with peloski, RBG, and chuck-u
schummer, in order to talk about succession.  Cruz should also be there to
advise.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> *BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice President
> Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for coronavirus. Fabio
> Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, tested
> positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood next to
> Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he “isn’t
> concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool report*.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Looks like this pump was common to all the 124 cars as well as others.

https://www.programainc.com/item_detail.aspx?idproduct=107=0=124%20800%2021%2048

I've got the pump from Wilton's sedan, should be able to swap that in and
have an answer.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM dan--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later
> models, or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?
>
> I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure
> actuated snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to
> pressure and vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or
> less junk.
>
> -D
>
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the
> faulty component.
> >
> > Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this
> point diving into the
> > pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but
> re-capping too while
> > you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in
> case the operation
> > is not successful.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I don't think so, I think 529 contributions have to be made by Dec. 31.

Allan

Meade Dillon via Mercedes  writes:

> Is a 529 like in IRA with respect to making contributions by 15 April for
> past tax year?  If yes, then you can make double contributions now during
> the big stock sale of 2020.
> -
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[MBZ] OT: I wonder how this will pan out

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

*BREAKING A Brazilian official who met President Trump and Vice President
Pence at Mar-a-Lago on Saturday has tested positive for coronavirus. Fabio
Wajngarten, a spokesman for Brazilian President Jair Bolsonaro, tested
positive for covid-19, Brazilian officials said. Wajngarten stood next to
Trump and Pence, a photograph taken in Florida shows. Trump said he “isn’t
concerned” about the development, according to a White House pool report*.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

There was an early Hella 126 pump that was quite stupid, but I've only ever
seen one of those.  As one might expect, the diaphragm on the snap switch
failed.  The later pumps are bidirectional motor/pumps, with electronics.  Far
fewer moving parts.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Don't know the answer to that, I'm speculating now.  I've got some research
to do about which pumps are shared and which are unique.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 11:09 AM dan--- via Mercedes 
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> Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later
> models, or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?
>
> I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure
> actuated snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to
> pressure and vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or
> less junk.
>
> -D
>
> On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the
> faulty component.
> >
> > Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this
> point diving into the
> > pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but
> re-capping too while
> > you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in
> case the operation
> > is not successful.
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[dan--- via Mercedes]

Are the pumps on the late W124s a separate unit like PSE pumps on later models, 
or the “dumb” kind like the “football” found in W126 models?

I ask because the “dumb” pumps don’t have any logic, just a pressure actuated 
snap switch that reverses rotation, changing from vacuum to pressure and 
vice-versa. If the pressure switch fails the pump is more or less junk.

-D

On Mar 12, 2020, at 10:35 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:

>> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the faulty 
>> component.
> 
> Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this 
> point diving into the
> pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but 
> re-capping too while
> you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in case 
> the operation
> is not successful.
> 
> -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1999 mercedes-benz slk230 kompressor 5 speed mannytranny

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Absolutely the right color.

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:23 AM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Andrew needs that, finally a Mercedes in the right color!
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:10 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > There was some discussion about these a week or two ago, this one is the
> > "rare" 5 speed
> >
> >
> >
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/ladson-mercedes-convertible-hardtop/7091594885.html
> >
> > --
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[MBZ] Clean 1985 300D on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Very nice smoke silver/palomino car, with just 143K miles, yet the bidding
remains calm (currently at $5200).

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-mercedes-benz-300d-turbo-31/?utm_source=dailymail_medium=email_campaign=2020-03-12
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Re: [MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> ...the CLS control circuit, which ... is integral to the pump, is the faulty 
> component.

Yes, if the signal from the door lock is indeed correct, it is.  At this point 
diving into the
pump can't hurt.  My first suspicion would be bad solder joints, but re-capping 
too while
you're there couldn't hurt.  Meanwhile, try to scare up another pump in case 
the operation
is not successful.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 124 central locking system fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Last night I had some time to diagnose the central locking system (CLS) on
the '94 E320 wagon that Floyd helped me "rescue" a couple months ago.

The LF door lock, when turned with the key to lock or unlock, would
physically lock that door, but no activation of the CLS.  The RF door, upon
locking, would activate the CLS but just cycle to lock and then immediately
back to unlock state.  The tailgate would lock and then go into a loop of
locking and unlocking and locking.

I tested the signals that each door lock is sending to the CLS pump
'brain', and indeed each lock is sending the correct ground or power
signal.  I can only conclude that the CLS control circuit, which I suspect
is integral to the pump, is the faulty component.  Maybe a re-cap is in
order?
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 1999 mercedes-benz slk230 kompressor 5 speed mannytranny

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Andrew needs that, finally a Mercedes in the right color!
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 10:10 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> There was some discussion about these a week or two ago, this one is the
> "rare" 5 speed
>
>
> https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/ladson-mercedes-convertible-hardtop/7091594885.html
>
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[MBZ] 1999 mercedes-benz slk230 kompressor 5 speed mannytranny

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There was some discussion about these a week or two ago, this one is the 
"rare" 5 speed


https://charleston.craigslist.org/cto/d/ladson-mercedes-convertible-hardtop/7091594885.html

--
--FT


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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

But where’s the fun in that?  Better to build your own Scary Black Assault 
Weapon. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Mar 12, 2020, at 8:20 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was reading the comments, and saw that they have been cheaper in the past.
> 
> Sure enough, watching a little TV last night and there's a PSA commercial
> for an assembled rifle with a magazine on sale for $479.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 12:48 AM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Good deal indeed.  I've paid up to $500 for these. The kit still requires
>> lower receiver.
>> 
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:30 PM
>>> To: Mercedes 
>>> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>>> Subject: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!
>>> 
>>> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
>>> apocalypse.
>>> 
>>> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
>>> finish.
>>> 
>>> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-
>>> nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
>>> 
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT Keep Calm and Carry On (Mexican beer virus)

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There is a local couple here on the Island who are a band called Shovels and 
Rope. They were doing a European tour, I saw the woman at the library a few 
weeks ago, she said they were going to be gone until sometime in April. They 
are really sweet kids so I was happy for their success and exposure there. 

Talking to a friend yesterday who plays with her in another band a bunch of 
women have, she said they had to come back last week and cancel the rest of the 
tour which was going to Italy and wherever else. They had been in UK, France, 
and Germany and maybe a coupla other countries. 

This involves the loss of several hundred thousands $$$ in revenues and such 
and a big hit to them on their income, and that of the whole circus associated 
with their tour and business. I guess they’ll be OK but it is Not Fun for them. 

They put on a big festival here every year in late April, I hope that doesn’t 
get canceled as it is always a wonderful event, great bands and nice crowd. 
I’ll see her Saturday evening at another little show here, will get the latest 
word. 

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 11:28 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> interview with a guy
> currently quarantined in Italy.

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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I was reading the comments, and saw that they have been cheaper in the past.

Sure enough, watching a little TV last night and there's a PSA commercial
for an assembled rifle with a magazine on sale for $479.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> Good deal indeed.  I've paid up to $500 for these. The kit still requires
> lower receiver.
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
> > Meade Dillon via Mercedes
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:30 PM
> > To: Mercedes 
> > Cc: Meade Dillon 
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!
> >
> > This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
> > apocalypse.
> >
> > PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
> > finish.
> >
> > https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-
> > nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
> >
> >
> > -
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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'm exercising my 2nd amendment, and it feels great.  These AR-style rifles
have an action which really reduces recoil, so teaching the next generation
how to hit what they're aiming for is much easier.

I was watching a bit of World War Z the other night.  I think a flame
thrower or grenade launcher would be my first choice vs. the zombies, and
then a shotgun after that.
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Wed, Mar 11, 2020 at 11:44 PM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wouldnt one want a shotgun? Or are you hunting deer?
>
> On Wed, Mar 11, 2020, 1:30 PM Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
> > apocalypse.
> >
> > PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
> > finish.
> >
> >
> >
> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT stocks on sale

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Is a 529 like in IRA with respect to making contributions by 15 April for
past tax year?  If yes, then you can make double contributions now during
the big stock sale of 2020.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I bought some 529 when it was down a little over 10%. Good time to get a
> vanguard account going for the other kid I think.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!

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Yes, it seems one can be purchased for $50 or so. Will need to get that too. 

--FT
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> On Mar 12, 2020, at 12:48 AM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Good deal indeed.  I've paid up to $500 for these. The kit still requires 
> lower receiver.
> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
>> Meade Dillon via Mercedes
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2020 4:30 PM
>> To: Mercedes 
>> Cc: Meade Dillon 
>> Subject: [MBZ] OT guns on sale too!
>> 
>> This is tempting.  Just in case this wu flu virus turns into the zombie
>> apocalypse.
>> 
>> PSA 16" M4 Carbine kit for $310, marked down from $500, has blemishes in
>> finish.
>> 
>> https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-16-m4-carbine-length-5-56-nato-1-7-
>> nitride-freedom-rifle-kit-5076171.html
>> 
>> 
>> -
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>> Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Really, really bad timing by the DOE

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Back in the 70s when we had the “oil shortage” I had a friend who worked for 
BATX (I think it was called), company that owned a lot of tank cars and storage 
facilities and such. He told me they had zero capacity to store or move any 
more oil or refined products as all their tanks and tank cars were completely 
full, tankers sitting on sidings everywhere they could park them. Producers 
were holding product waiting for the prices to go up to where they could make 
huge profits, which eventually they did. 

It was the Jimmuh Cahtah MEOW (Moral Equivalent Of War) gas line alternating 
purchase days...  I miss him so much, he was the best president ever!

--FT
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> On Mar 11, 2020, at 9:56 PM, Clay via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Pretty soon there will be no more empty oil cars, as they will all be fully 
> laden and sitting on abandoned track spurs throughout the nation.  

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Re: [MBZ] UF Students Exposed to coronavirus

[Clay via Mercedes]

Lord only knows with this pack of morons.  A bunch of staunch conservatives in 
their own minds but rabid socialists when it comes to having government hand 
out cash for any and all civic or social needs as well as to attempt to get 
anything done.  AOC and Burnie would love it.  

clay


> On Mar 11, 2020, at 6:28 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> So no dividend checks
> 
> Sent from my iPhone


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