Re: [MBZ] How to get off way over tight lug bolts

2020-06-28 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Blue wrench. Heat up the head of the bolt, it will come off like butter.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Jun 28, 2020 5:53:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes :

> I was needing to pull the rear wheels off a wagon to replace the tires and 
> whoever last installed them WAY overt ightened them. Standing on the MB lug 
> wrench would not budget it.  Put a long cheater pipe on it and got one loose. 
>  Moved on to the next one and it actually started twisting the wrench.  Broke 
> out the air impact gun, would not budget it.  I guess I may need to go buy a 
> bigger impact gun.  Any ideas?
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I”m assuming the pressure is being measured at the output of the SBC module. Or 
are there pressure transducers at the calipers?

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 6:36 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A kink or other partial blockage in the line?
> 
> Greg
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
> via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 3:29 PM
> To: Okie Benz
> Cc: Dan Penoff
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania
> 
> No visible leaks.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I guess it could be low if the caliper is leaking and not building enough 
>> pressure.  I guess maybe the pump sends pressure individually rather than an 
>> all or nothing situation.
>> 
>> On 6/28/2020 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>>> The error was specifically low pressure to that wheel and it gave me the 
>>> option to disable SBC. I’m not sure how you would have low pressure to a 
>>> caliper and the caliper be at fault - the SBC system went through all of 
>>> the diagnostics and flagged the system as being bad. Max pressure on the 
>>> left  front was 64 bar, and the minimum was 69 bar, so it failed the pump.
>>> 
>>> He’s still got brakes, but he said the left front definitely feels weird if 
>>> he gets on the brakes. Even if the caliper was stuck the pressure should 
>>> still be at or above spec, correct?
>>> 
>>> This is my first run in with SBC, so I’m not that familiar with it as far 
>>> as failure mode.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is 
 covered under the SBC warranty or not.
 
 On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake 
> has been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.
> 
> Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, 
> some we expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. 
> Ran the SBC diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below 
> spec. Explained the 25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of 
> the DAS errors, and wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership 
> tomorrow to get the car in for the SBC to be replaced under warranty.
> 
> He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the 
> glow plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s 
> bolted to the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from 
> below. He wasn’t able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he 
> unplugged it, plugged in the new one and zip tied it to some components 
> in the general vicinity. Not ideal and certainly not what I would have 
> done, but you know, he’s a grown ass man so he can make his own decisions 
> and suffer the consequences, if any.
> 
> So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I 
> also replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that 
> looked like it was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm 
> in the dash saying that the battery is low and the battery monitor is 
> cutting off power to “convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked 
> me out a little, so we threw it back on the DAS to run another set of 
> diagnostics while we went inside and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat 
> index here today.)
> 
> While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that 
> there are two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. 
> I immediately figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the 
> DAS with no charger on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it 
> up with full glow plugs with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the 
> battery down considerably, I’m sure.
> 
> So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about 
> low battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.
> 
> He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.
> 
> I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, 
> battery nanny has retreated and no more alarms.
> 
> The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] ***SPAM*** RE: W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
A kink or other partial blockage in the line?

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 3:29 PM
To: Okie Benz
Cc: Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

No visible leaks.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess it could be low if the caliper is leaking and not building enough 
> pressure.  I guess maybe the pump sends pressure individually rather than an 
> all or nothing situation.
> 
> On 6/28/2020 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The error was specifically low pressure to that wheel and it gave me the 
>> option to disable SBC. I’m not sure how you would have low pressure to a 
>> caliper and the caliper be at fault - the SBC system went through all of the 
>> diagnostics and flagged the system as being bad. Max pressure on the left  
>> front was 64 bar, and the minimum was 69 bar, so it failed the pump.
>> 
>> He’s still got brakes, but he said the left front definitely feels weird if 
>> he gets on the brakes. Even if the caliper was stuck the pressure should 
>> still be at or above spec, correct?
>> 
>> This is my first run in with SBC, so I’m not that familiar with it as far as 
>> failure mode.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is 
>>> covered under the SBC warranty or not.
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake 
 has been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.
 
 Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, 
 some we expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. 
 Ran the SBC diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below 
 spec. Explained the 25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of 
 the DAS errors, and wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership 
 tomorrow to get the car in for the SBC to be replaced under warranty.
 
 He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the 
 glow plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s 
 bolted to the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from 
 below. He wasn’t able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he 
 unplugged it, plugged in the new one and zip tied it to some components in 
 the general vicinity. Not ideal and certainly not what I would have done, 
 but you know, he’s a grown ass man so he can make his own decisions and 
 suffer the consequences, if any.
 
 So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I 
 also replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that 
 looked like it was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm 
 in the dash saying that the battery is low and the battery monitor is 
 cutting off power to “convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked 
 me out a little, so we threw it back on the DAS to run another set of 
 diagnostics while we went inside and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat 
 index here today.)
 
 While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there 
 are two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I 
 immediately figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS 
 with no charger on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up 
 with full glow plugs with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery 
 down considerably, I’m sure.
 
 So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about 
 low battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.
 
 He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.
 
 I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, 
 battery nanny has retreated and no more alarms.
 
 The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
No visible leaks.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 6:04 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I guess it could be low if the caliper is leaking and not building enough 
> pressure.  I guess maybe the pump sends pressure individually rather than an 
> all or nothing situation.
> 
> On 6/28/2020 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> The error was specifically low pressure to that wheel and it gave me the 
>> option to disable SBC. I’m not sure how you would have low pressure to a 
>> caliper and the caliper be at fault - the SBC system went through all of the 
>> diagnostics and flagged the system as being bad. Max pressure on the left  
>> front was 64 bar, and the minimum was 69 bar, so it failed the pump.
>> 
>> He’s still got brakes, but he said the left front definitely feels weird if 
>> he gets on the brakes. Even if the caliper was stuck the pressure should 
>> still be at or above spec, correct?
>> 
>> This is my first run in with SBC, so I’m not that familiar with it as far as 
>> failure mode.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is 
>>> covered under the SBC warranty or not.
>>> 
>>> On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake 
 has been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.
 
 Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, 
 some we expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. 
 Ran the SBC diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below 
 spec. Explained the 25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of 
 the DAS errors, and wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership 
 tomorrow to get the car in for the SBC to be replaced under warranty.
 
 He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the 
 glow plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s 
 bolted to the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from 
 below. He wasn’t able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he 
 unplugged it, plugged in the new one and zip tied it to some components in 
 the general vicinity. Not ideal and certainly not what I would have done, 
 but you know, he’s a grown ass man so he can make his own decisions and 
 suffer the consequences, if any.
 
 So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I 
 also replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that 
 looked like it was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm 
 in the dash saying that the battery is low and the battery monitor is 
 cutting off power to “convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked 
 me out a little, so we threw it back on the DAS to run another set of 
 diagnostics while we went inside and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat 
 index here today.)
 
 While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there 
 are two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I 
 immediately figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS 
 with no charger on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up 
 with full glow plugs with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery 
 down considerably, I’m sure.
 
 So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about 
 low battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.
 
 He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.
 
 I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, 
 battery nanny has retreated and no more alarms.
 
 The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.
 
 -D
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Re: [MBZ] How to get off way over tight lug bolts

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I did soak them in PB blaster.  I am not sure if it actually gets down 
in there though.  Will try it again tomorrow.  I probably need a new 
impact anyway.


On 6/28/2020 4:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Kroil first. Lots cheaper than a new impact.

-D


On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I was needing to pull the rear wheels off a wagon to replace the tires and 
whoever last installed them WAY overt ightened them. Standing on the MB lug 
wrench would not budget it.  Put a long cheater pipe on it and got one loose.  
Moved on to the next one and it actually started twisting the wrench.  Broke 
out the air impact gun, would not budget it.  I guess I may need to go buy a 
bigger impact gun.  Any ideas?


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Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I guess it could be low if the caliper is leaking and not building 
enough pressure.  I guess maybe the pump sends pressure individually 
rather than an all or nothing situation.


On 6/28/2020 4:53 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

The error was specifically low pressure to that wheel and it gave me the option 
to disable SBC. I’m not sure how you would have low pressure to a caliper and 
the caliper be at fault - the SBC system went through all of the diagnostics 
and flagged the system as being bad. Max pressure on the left  front was 64 
bar, and the minimum was 69 bar, so it failed the pump.

He’s still got brakes, but he said the left front definitely feels weird if he 
gets on the brakes. Even if the caliper was stuck the pressure should still be 
at or above spec, correct?

This is my first run in with SBC, so I’m not that familiar with it as far as 
failure mode.

-D




On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is covered 
under the SBC warranty or not.

On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake has 
been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.

Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, some we 
expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. Ran the SBC 
diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below spec. Explained the 
25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of the DAS errors, and 
wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership tomorrow to get the car in for 
the SBC to be replaced under warranty.

He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the glow 
plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s bolted to 
the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from below. He wasn’t 
able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he unplugged it, plugged in the 
new one and zip tied it to some components in the general vicinity. Not ideal 
and certainly not what I would have done, but you know, he’s a grown ass man so 
he can make his own decisions and suffer the consequences, if any.

So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I also 
replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that looked like it 
was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm in the dash saying 
that the battery is low and the battery monitor is cutting off power to 
“convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked me out a little, so we 
threw it back on the DAS to run another set of diagnostics while we went inside 
and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat index here today.)

While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there are 
two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I immediately 
figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS with no charger 
on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up with full glow plugs 
with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery down considerably, I’m 
sure.

So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about low 
battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.

He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.

I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, battery 
nanny has retreated and no more alarms.

The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] How to get off way over tight lug bolts

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Kroil first. Lots cheaper than a new impact.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:53 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was needing to pull the rear wheels off a wagon to replace the tires and 
> whoever last installed them WAY overt ightened them. Standing on the MB lug 
> wrench would not budget it.  Put a long cheater pipe on it and got one loose. 
>  Moved on to the next one and it actually started twisting the wrench.  Broke 
> out the air impact gun, would not budget it.  I guess I may need to go buy a 
> bigger impact gun.  Any ideas?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The error was specifically low pressure to that wheel and it gave me the option 
to disable SBC. I’m not sure how you would have low pressure to a caliper and 
the caliper be at fault - the SBC system went through all of the diagnostics 
and flagged the system as being bad. Max pressure on the left  front was 64 
bar, and the minimum was 69 bar, so it failed the pump.

He’s still got brakes, but he said the left front definitely feels weird if he 
gets on the brakes. Even if the caliper was stuck the pressure should still be 
at or above spec, correct?

This is my first run in with SBC, so I’m not that familiar with it as far as 
failure mode.

-D



> On Jun 28, 2020, at 5:47 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is 
> covered under the SBC warranty or not.
> 
> On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake has 
>> been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.
>> 
>> Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, some 
>> we expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. Ran the 
>> SBC diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below spec. 
>> Explained the 25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of the DAS 
>> errors, and wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership tomorrow to get 
>> the car in for the SBC to be replaced under warranty.
>> 
>> He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the glow 
>> plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s bolted 
>> to the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from below. He 
>> wasn’t able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he unplugged it, 
>> plugged in the new one and zip tied it to some components in the general 
>> vicinity. Not ideal and certainly not what I would have done, but you know, 
>> he’s a grown ass man so he can make his own decisions and suffer the 
>> consequences, if any.
>> 
>> So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I also 
>> replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that looked like 
>> it was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm in the dash 
>> saying that the battery is low and the battery monitor is cutting off power 
>> to “convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked me out a little, so 
>> we threw it back on the DAS to run another set of diagnostics while we went 
>> inside and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat index here today.)
>> 
>> While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there 
>> are two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I 
>> immediately figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS 
>> with no charger on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up with 
>> full glow plugs with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery down 
>> considerably, I’m sure.
>> 
>> So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about low 
>> battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.
>> 
>> He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.
>> 
>> I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, 
>> battery nanny has retreated and no more alarms.
>> 
>> The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.
>> 
>> -D
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[MBZ] How to get off way over tight lug bolts

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I was needing to pull the rear wheels off a wagon to replace the tires 
and whoever last installed them WAY overt ightened them. Standing on the 
MB lug wrench would not budget it.  Put a long cheater pipe on it and 
got one loose.  Moved on to the next one and it actually started 
twisting the wrench.  Broke out the air impact gun, would not budget 
it.  I guess I may need to go buy a bigger impact gun.  Any ideas?



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Re: [MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That almost sounds like a caliper issue to me, I am not sure if that is 
covered under the SBC warranty or not.


On 6/28/2020 3:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake has 
been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.

Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, some we 
expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. Ran the SBC 
diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below spec. Explained the 
25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of the DAS errors, and 
wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership tomorrow to get the car in for 
the SBC to be replaced under warranty.

He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the glow 
plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s bolted to 
the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from below. He wasn’t 
able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he unplugged it, plugged in the 
new one and zip tied it to some components in the general vicinity. Not ideal 
and certainly not what I would have done, but you know, he’s a grown ass man so 
he can make his own decisions and suffer the consequences, if any.

So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I also 
replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that looked like it 
was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm in the dash saying 
that the battery is low and the battery monitor is cutting off power to 
“convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked me out a little, so we 
threw it back on the DAS to run another set of diagnostics while we went inside 
and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat index here today.)

While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there are 
two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I immediately 
figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS with no charger 
on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up with full glow plugs 
with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery down considerably, I’m 
sure.

So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about low 
battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.

He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.

I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, battery 
nanny has retreated and no more alarms.

The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Just fill out a bill of sale, does not matter what name you put on it, 
and get somebody to sign it.


On 6/28/2020 3:19 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On Sun, June 28, 2020 3:50 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Or, fill out a form, mail a check to Vermont and get a registration and
plates, then transfer to your state later.

What do you put on the form when you fill it out?
"This car belongs to a title loan company, but I'd sure appreciate it if
you'd issue a title for it in my name..."

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Great. Thanks for clarifying this. That’s why I was looking for a stock line 
set that I wouldn’t have to cut or flare if necessary.

I was looking at the install information for the Pioneer unit and it’s not 
clear if the line set has to come into the back of the indoor unit and follow 
the length to make the connection at one end, or if there are short lines in 
the wall unit that project out of the hole in the wall (outside) and are 
terminated at that point.

I’ve got to go back and read it closely. They talk about being able to exit the 
wall unit on either side, one being preferred over the other. 

Sorry about all the questions, I’m just trying to understand this as best as 
possible so I am 100% comfortable with doing this myself. Doesn’t look 
difficult at this point.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:40 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Correct.  The lines come with both ends flared and the b-nuts on the tube.  
> Both lines are insulated and need to be, unlike a normal central split system 
> where only the vapor line is normally insulated.  I forgot to mention that 
> the 5/16 in adapter fits a standard 1/4 inch hose fitting.  Vapor and liquid 
> are correct terminology but "high-side" and "low side" is wrong because (with 
> expansion devices in the outdoor unit) both refrigerant lines are at the same 
> pressure (low for cooling and high for heating). 
> 
> The outdoor unit has two service valves where the flared refrigerant lines 
> attach.  After evacuating the lines and indoor unit you open those valves to 
> release the R410a.  The larger one also has the fitting for the 5/16 charging 
> adapter.  As someone noted, R410a systems run at much higher pressure than 
> R22 or R12.
> 
> The indoor unit includes short refrigerant lines that you poke through the 
> big hole when you  mount the indoor unit to the bracket.  Typically you 
> carefully fold these lines (on the outside)  against the building.  The other 
> end of lineset attaches to these pigtails.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 4:25 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other words, is the 
> line set not already flared with the fittings in place for the provided 
> length? Presuming that if it was and you wanted it shorter you would cut it 
> down to length and move the fittings while doing so.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a 
>> hack saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a 
>> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the 
>> lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't 
>> vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb 
>> vibration.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
>> 
>> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall 
>> a few feet to take up the extra length?
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
 
 On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
 slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
 to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>>> 
>>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
>>> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it 
>>> might pay to download and read the install manual before you order the 
>>> lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] cv boots

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I'm guessing Karl got his here:
https://www.cvjreman.com/mercedes/

On Sun, June 28, 2020 4:27 pm, Michael Esh via Mercedes wrote:
> I bought one for the 83 240d  from Autozone for about $95. It’s been
> running about a year with no issues. I bought front one for 91 Honda Civic
> from NAPA last month for $64.
>
> Where did get your last one?


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Correct.  The lines come with both ends flared and the b-nuts on the tube.  
Both lines are insulated and need to be, unlike a normal central split system 
where only the vapor line is normally insulated.  I forgot to mention that the 
5/16 in adapter fits a standard 1/4 inch hose fitting.  Vapor and liquid are 
correct terminology but "high-side" and "low side" is wrong because (with 
expansion devices in the outdoor unit) both refrigerant lines are at the same 
pressure (low for cooling and high for heating). 

The outdoor unit has two service valves where the flared refrigerant lines 
attach.  After evacuating the lines and indoor unit you open those valves to 
release the R410a.  The larger one also has the fitting for the 5/16 charging 
adapter.  As someone noted, R410a systems run at much higher pressure than R22 
or R12.

The indoor unit includes short refrigerant lines that you poke through the big 
hole when you  mount the indoor unit to the bracket.  Typically you carefully 
fold these lines (on the outside)  against the building.  The other end of 
lineset attaches to these pigtails.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 4:25 PM
To: Okie Benz 
Cc: Dan Penoff 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other words, is the 
line set not already flared with the fittings in place for the provided length? 
Presuming that if it was and you wanted it shorter you would cut it down to 
length and move the fittings while doing so.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a 
> hack saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a 
> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the 
> lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't 
> vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb 
> vibration.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall 
> a few feet to take up the extra length?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
>>> to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>> 
>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
>> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it 
>> might pay to download and read the install manual before you order the 
>> lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] cv boots

2020-06-28 Thread Michael Esh via Mercedes
I bought one for the 83 240d  from Autozone for about $95. It’s been running 
about a year with no issues. 
I bought front one for 91 Honda Civic from NAPA last month for $64. 

Where did get your last one?  

Michael E. Esh


> On Jun 28, 2020, at 2:12 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My cvjreman half shaft outer boot is cracked pretty much all the way
> through in maybe 6 months of around town driving. Who makes good boots?
> Going to have to reboot myself or send it back and complain.
> 
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020, 10:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So at least that aspect should be basically bulletproof, the rest
>> however...
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2842612089157632/
>> 
>> 1989 Bentley Eight
>> $9,950
>> Dealership· Listed 9 weeks ago in Savannah, GA
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>About This Vehicle…
>> 
>> Driven 95,258 miles
>> Automatic transmission
>> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Black
>> VIN: SCBZE02B9KCX24751
>> Fuel type: Other
>> 
>> 
>>Seller's description…
>> 
>> We are pleased to present this 1989 Bentley Eight. The Bentley Eight was
>> introduced in 1984 as a lower priced and less well appointed option to
>> the Mulsanne. Fuel injection and anti-lock brakes were added in 1986,
>> leather upholstery and power memory seats were added in 1987. These
>> upgrades as well as other minor changes all added to the popularity of
>> the Eight. Of course, it has all the appointments expected in a luxury
>> car: power steering, power disc brakes, air conditioning, power remote
>> side mirrors and an upgraded AM/FM CD player. With what we believe to be
>> the original 5.7L fuel injected engine and 3 speed automatic
>> transmission, the vehicle runs and drives as expected. The interior and
>> exterior are both in good shape for its age and non-restored condition.
>> We can coordinate shipping. For more information call us at [hidden
>> information] or email [hidden information].
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
So do you have to flare the line set no matter what? In other words, is the 
line set not already flared with the fittings in place for the provided length? 
Presuming that if it was and you wanted it shorter you would cut it down to 
length and move the fittings while doing so.

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 4:12 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a 
> hack saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a 
> pro he'll have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the 
> lines slowly and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't 
> vibrate much but it will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb 
> vibration.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
> Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall 
> a few feet to take up the extra length?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
>>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
>>> to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>> 
>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
>> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might 
>> pay to download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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[MBZ] W211 Nanny Mania

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Worked on the oldest boy’s E320 CDI today. He said the left front brake has 
been making noise, but it works and the pads aren’t worn down. Hmm.

Put the car on the DAS and ran a full set of diagnostics. A few bangs, some we 
expected, like EGR which is disabled, but a couple for the SBC. Ran the SBC 
diagnostics and sure enough, left front pressure is below spec. Explained the 
25 year warranty to son, had him do a screen grab of the DAS errors, and 
wrapped things up. He’s calling the stealership tomorrow to get the car in for 
the SBC to be replaced under warranty.

He decided after many months of it sitting on the shelf to install the glow 
plug controller to replace the one on the car that has failed. It’s bolted to 
the bottom of the intake manifold and has to be removed from below. He wasn’t 
able to get to the fasteners on the old one, so he unplugged it, plugged in the 
new one and zip tied it to some components in the general vicinity. Not ideal 
and certainly not what I would have done, but you know, he’s a grown ass man so 
he can make his own decisions and suffer the consequences, if any.

So he fires the car up and it’s running much better. I would add that I also 
replaced some really sketchy wiring on one of the injectors that looked like it 
was the old self-destructing stuff. But - he get an alarm in the dash saying 
that the battery is low and the battery monitor is cutting off power to 
“convenience systems”. Whatever. It sort of freaked me out a little, so we 
threw it back on the DAS to run another set of diagnostics while we went inside 
and cooled off a bit (nearly 100F heat index here today.)

While inside, I did some research on this battery nanny to find that there are 
two levels of alert based on how low the battery voltage gets. I immediately 
figured it fired off because we had the car sitting on the DAS with no charger 
on it for a good 45 minutes, after which he fires it up with full glow plugs 
with the new controller, I’m sure. Dogged the battery down considerably, I’m 
sure.

So we look at the results of the diagnostics and find a bang in it about low 
battery voltage. I’m sure that’s it.

He takes the car for a short spin and gets it again. Grrr.

I told him to take the car out for a decent drive. He does. Comes back, battery 
nanny has retreated and no more alarms.

The W211s are nice cars, but sometimes they make a W123 look attractive.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, June 28, 2020 3:50 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Or, fill out a form, mail a check to Vermont and get a registration and
> plates, then transfer to your state later.

What do you put on the form when you fill it out?
"This car belongs to a title loan company, but I'd sure appreciate it if
you'd issue a title for it in my name..."

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[MBZ] Blaupunkt

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
Supposedly on clearance for $35, but it's regular ($50) price or out of
stock near me.

I assume Blaupunkt = Germasian/Chinesium these days?
$50 for a 7" touchscreen indash with speakers included doesn't sound like
the Blaupunkt I remember.

https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory-checker?sku=584899671

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Cutting and flaring is not that big a deal but use a tubing cutter (not a hack 
saw) and a decent flare tool (not a bargain bin tool).  If you hire a pro he'll 
have the right tools and it only takes a few minutes.  Do bend the lines slowly 
and carefully so they don't kink.  The outside unit doesn't vibrate much but it 
will vibrate so route lines in a way they can absorb vibration.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Kaleb Striplin 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall a 
few feet to take up the extra length?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:42 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s 
>> slightly longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it 
>> to take up the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> 
> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop 
> might be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might 
> pay to download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Or, fill out a form, mail a check to Vermont and get a registration and plates, 
then transfer to your state later. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:52 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> TitleMax has the lien on it.  I need to call the guy again and find out if 
> they have moved on it, done whatever they had to do to track down the 
> deadbeat lendee, or are willing to give it up.  If they give up on it then I 
> need to find a tame mechanic to get a hold on it for 30d then they can get a 
> mechanic lien title or something, then "sell" it to me.  It's just a PITA to 
> deal with but I should, it is a really nice truck.
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 6/28/20 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> If you foster it for a year they should let you adopt the car and give you
>> all the papers.
>> 
>> On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:26 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Have you tried the Vermont thing?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 with 104k but still don't have the title for...
 
 
>>> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2005-mercedes-benz-ml350/7149810500.html
 --
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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
So it seems. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 2:41 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 3:13 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Ain’t me. I use Safari and Duck Duck Go. None of my stuff is getting
>> out there.
> 
> Fakebook's been reading Kleb's emails via his iPhone.
> His email was full of mini splits this weekend.
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Re: [MBZ] It looks worse in person than in pictures

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
And it looks pretty damn bad in the photos 

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> 
> An honest FB seller!
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1522197291309490/
> 
> 1985 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> $1,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 2 days ago in Ravenel, SC 
> 
> 
> 
>   About This Vehicle…
> 
> Driven 220,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
> Fuel type: Gasoline
> 
> 
>   Seller's description…
> 
> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 380 SE 4 Spd Auto 3.8 M116 V8 Idles poorly but am working 
> on fixing it Needs new front tires Scratch down left side Interior is in poor 
> shape Ran just fine with a high idle until I redid vacuum lines A/C blower 
> motor works intermittently and A/C needs to be recharged Grille is off 
> because I am working on it LH turn signal bracket is broken Not dying to get 
> rid of it, but don't be afraid to make an offer if you think I'm asking too 
> much, worst I can do is counter offer Ask me for more pics if you want It 
> looks worse in person than in pictures
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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, June 28, 2020 3:13 pm, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> Ain’t me. I use Safari and Duck Duck Go. None of my stuff is getting
> out there.

Fakebook's been reading Kleb's emails via his iPhone.
His email was full of mini splits this weekend.

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Re: [MBZ] Fakebook

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Ain’t me. I use Safari and Duck Duck Go. None of my stuff is getting out there.

-D

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> Now when I get on Fakebook I get ads for mini splits. Thanks Poos. 
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Re: [MBZ] cv boots

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, June 28, 2020 2:11 pm, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> My cvjreman half shaft outer boot is cracked pretty much all the way
> through in maybe 6 months of around town driving. Who makes good boots?
> Going to have to reboot myself or send it back and complain.

There's a crack that goes almost all the way through the material, or
there's a split that almost separates the boot into two pieces?

In the latter case, it can be difficult to impossible to get the joint
clean enough to last when you reboot it.

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[MBZ] cv boots

2020-06-28 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
My cvjreman half shaft outer boot is cracked pretty much all the way
through in maybe 6 months of around town driving. Who makes good boots?
Going to have to reboot myself or send it back and complain.

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> So at least that aspect should be basically bulletproof, the rest
> however...
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2842612089157632/
>
> 1989 Bentley Eight
> $9,950
> Dealership· Listed 9 weeks ago in Savannah, GA
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 95,258 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Black
> VIN: SCBZE02B9KCX24751
> Fuel type: Other
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> We are pleased to present this 1989 Bentley Eight. The Bentley Eight was
> introduced in 1984 as a lower priced and less well appointed option to
> the Mulsanne. Fuel injection and anti-lock brakes were added in 1986,
> leather upholstery and power memory seats were added in 1987. These
> upgrades as well as other minor changes all added to the popularity of
> the Eight. Of course, it has all the appointments expected in a luxury
> car: power steering, power disc brakes, air conditioning, power remote
> side mirrors and an upgraded AM/FM CD player. With what we believe to be
> the original 5.7L fuel injected engine and 3 speed automatic
> transmission, the vehicle runs and drives as expected. The interior and
> exterior are both in good shape for its age and non-restored condition.
> We can coordinate shipping. For more information call us at [hidden
> information] or email [hidden information].
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[MBZ] OT I think these were GM 350s and trannies?

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

So at least that aspect should be basically bulletproof, the rest however...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/2842612089157632/

1989 Bentley Eight
$9,950
Dealership· Listed 9 weeks ago in Savannah, GA 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 95,258 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Silver · Interior color: Black
VIN: SCBZE02B9KCX24751
Fuel type: Other


   Seller's description…

We are pleased to present this 1989 Bentley Eight. The Bentley Eight was 
introduced in 1984 as a lower priced and less well appointed option to 
the Mulsanne. Fuel injection and anti-lock brakes were added in 1986, 
leather upholstery and power memory seats were added in 1987. These 
upgrades as well as other minor changes all added to the popularity of 
the Eight. Of course, it has all the appointments expected in a luxury 
car: power steering, power disc brakes, air conditioning, power remote 
side mirrors and an upgraded AM/FM CD player. With what we believe to be 
the original 5.7L fuel injected engine and 3 speed automatic 
transmission, the vehicle runs and drives as expected. The interior and 
exterior are both in good shape for its age and non-restored condition. 
We can coordinate shipping. For more information call us at [hidden 
information] or email [hidden information].


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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
TitleMax has the lien on it.  I need to call the guy again and find out 
if they have moved on it, done whatever they had to do to track down the 
deadbeat lendee, or are willing to give it up.  If they give up on it 
then I need to find a tame mechanic to get a hold on it for 30d then 
they can get a mechanic lien title or something, then "sell" it to me.  
It's just a PITA to deal with but I should, it is a really nice truck.


--FT

On 6/28/20 1:39 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

If you foster it for a year they should let you adopt the car and give you
all the papers.

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Have you tried the Vermont thing?

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

with 104k but still don't have the title for...



https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2005-mercedes-benz-ml350/7149810500.html

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Re: [MBZ] It looks worse in person than in pictures

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
ROFL. It's not like it looks even half ways decent in the pictures.

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> An honest FB seller!
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1522197291309490/
>
> 1985 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
> $1,500
> Vehicles 
> Listed 2 days ago in Ravenel, SC
> 
>
>
> About This Vehicle…
>
> Driven 220,000 miles
> Automatic transmission
> Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
> Fuel type: Gasoline
>
>
> Seller's description…
>
> 1985 Mercedes-Benz 380 SE 4 Spd Auto 3.8 M116 V8 Idles poorly but am
> working on fixing it Needs new front tires Scratch down left side
> Interior is in poor shape Ran just fine with a high idle until I redid
> vacuum lines A/C blower motor works intermittently and A/C needs to be
> recharged Grille is off because I am working on it LH turn signal
> bracket is broken Not dying to get rid of it, but don't be afraid to
> make an offer if you think I'm asking too much, worst I can do is
> counter offer Ask me for more pics if you want It looks worse in person
> than in pictures
>
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[MBZ] It looks worse in person than in pictures

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

An honest FB seller!

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1522197291309490/

1985 Mercedes-Benz S-Class
$1,500
Vehicles 
Listed 2 days ago in Ravenel, SC 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 220,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Blue · Interior color: Grey
Fuel type: Gasoline


   Seller's description…

1985 Mercedes-Benz 380 SE 4 Spd Auto 3.8 M116 V8 Idles poorly but am 
working on fixing it Needs new front tires Scratch down left side 
Interior is in poor shape Ran just fine with a high idle until I redid 
vacuum lines A/C blower motor works intermittently and A/C needs to be 
recharged Grille is off because I am working on it LH turn signal 
bracket is broken Not dying to get rid of it, but don't be afraid to 
make an offer if you think I'm asking too much, worst I can do is 
counter offer Ask me for more pics if you want It looks worse in person 
than in pictures


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[MBZ] I'm guessing this could turn into a money pit right quick

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Or probably already is

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1205976633128231/

2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D
$7,900


   Seller's description…

This luxury driving experience 2007 Mercedes S550 4matic is loaded power 
windows power door locks navigation system night vision cruise control 
cold AC cuz were four brand new tires have not installed yet interior is 
perfect no tears What needs addressing Needs an alternator I have it but 
have not installed it Needs a front output shaft sensor and my mechanic 
said the vibration in the front is due to. OutPut shaft sensor cuz the 
front axle and bearings have already been replaced about a year ago 
Sunroof off-track does not leak and motorworks. If you know Mercedes 
come and driving it price is negotiable


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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
If you foster it for a year they should let you adopt the car and give you
all the papers.

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> Have you tried the Vermont thing?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 28, 2020, at 12:25 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > with 104k but still don't have the title for...
> >
> >
> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2005-mercedes-benz-ml350/7149810500.html
> >
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[MBZ] mechanically the card is sound

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Just the thing for your nocturnal pharmaceutical sales

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/270100624427088/

2003 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
$3,000
Vehicles 
Listed 21 hours ago in Orlando, FL 




   About This Vehicle…

Driven 171,000 miles
Automatic transmission
Exterior color: Black · Interior color: Black
Fuel type: Gasoline
17.0 MPG city · 24.0 MPG highway · 20.0 MPG combined


   Typical Features…

 *
   Moon Roof
 *
   Alloy Wheels
 *
   ABS
 *
   AM/FM Stereo
 *


   Seller's description…

2003 Mercedes E320 with 171 miles , runs and drives . Cold ac ,radio , 
new brakes and oil change recently done. Few cosmetic flaws but 
mechanically the card is sound. No leaks or anything like that Clean 
Title $3000 obo

Orlando, FL
Location is approximate

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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Realtor Car -- 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Blue Tec - $16500 (Savannah)

2020-06-28 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
Kaleb says:

>I want one of those

No, your actions say you don't. If you did want one you would take the 
following steps.

Step 1. Stop buying scrappers from copart.

Step 2. Take the money you would've spent on a copart car you were tempted to 
bid on and put it in the bank/coffee can in the back forty/somewhere it won't 
get pissed away.

Step 3. Read these books.

https://www.amazon.com/Buried-Treasures-Compulsive-Acquiring-Treatments/dp/0199329257/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?dchild=1=hoarding+books=1593365458=8-3

https://www.amazon.com/Stuff-Compulsive-Hoarding-Meaning-Things-ebook/dp/B003JAO0QI/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1=hoarding+books=1593365458=8-4


Step 4. Sell most cars. Advertise nationally for more exposure. Take that 
cabriolet in and get it repaired and detailed. Sell on BaT. Likewise for 
anything else rare and exclusive. Part out the parts only cars. Hire some 
"guest workers" if need be. If they don't have enough value to pay folks to 
part them, let them go.

Step 5. Buy SWMBO a newer Camry. Put a tristar on it.

Step 6. At this point you'll have over $50k to purchase whatever you desire.

Step 7. Get Rick to listen to his own advice, get moving and get some things 
done and gone. 

You're welcome.

To quote the G-man, "too harsh?"

Rick
Who puts stuff off, and is a bit of a hoarder too. 

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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Realtor Car -- 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Blue Tec - $16500 (Savannah)

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I paid thousands less for my 2014 GLK 250 bluetec SUV, but it had over 135k
miles.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2020 at 1:20 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Looks pretty nice for boring white, and I suppose that price is not
> particularly unreasonable for a newer car
>
> --FT
>
> On 6/28/20 1:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I want one of those
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >>
> >> 
> https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-2014-mercedes-benz-e250-blue/7149590423.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Speaking of crackish

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Crusher-friendly POS.

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> Premium price, needs tranny. It is thistle green though
>
>
> https://eastoregon.craigslist.org/cto/d/baker-city-w-tdt-mercedes-wagon-euro/7149717233.html
>
> W123 300TDT Mercedes Wagon Euro Spec - $2800 (Baker City, OR)
>
>
> 1983 mercedes benz 300td
>
> condition: fair
> cylinders: 5 cylinders
> fuel: diesel
> odometer: 191446
> title status: clean
> transmission: automatic
>
> Hey there,
>
> I have a W123 300 touring diesel turbo Mercedes wagon European spec. OM617
> engine, automatic, thistle green with dark green cloth interior.
> It runs but does not upshift to third. A certified Mercedes mechanic says
> it does indeed need a new transmission. I have owned her for four years and
> done a lot of work to get her running, but needing a new transmission is
> out of my league both time and money-wise. So I'm putting out the feelers.
> If you have knowledge of this vehicle, are looking to burn some cash, and
> need a project, this would be a great car.
>
> It has manual windows and manual climate control. It has a US front bumper
> and Euro back bumper with the option for self-leveling lights. Manual
> sunroof works. The third-row seat is almost pristine. Oh, did I mention the
> horn? There is a country horn and city horn setting.
>
> The good:
> -Recent valve adjustment
> -All new filters (including tank)
> -New primer pump
> -New glow plugs
> -New shaft seal of the power steering pump
> -New door actuators and vacuum connectors (locks work, turns off with key)
> -New hood insulation
> -Interior is nice, minus rip in the driver's seat
> -No blow by, cap doesn't dance
>
> The bad:
> -The vacuum pump is reading at 17.5hg, should be at around 20hg - so a new
> pump would also be good.
> -There are small spots of rust, especially under the battery
> -The back was hit at some point, is dented, and has rust
> -Needs a paint job
> -Needs new tires
> -No AC
>
> The ugly:
> -Needs a new transmission (I have checked everything - modulator, kick
> down switch, solenoid, bowden cable) When I changed the transmission fluid
> and filter it smelled burnt and there were many chunks of metal in the pan.
> If you buy it and fix it without putting in a new transmission you win all
> the things.
>
> If you are interested, send me an email. I have more photos if needed.
>
>
> tags; mercedes, wagon, w123, seattle, california, portland, oregon, 300TD,
> euro spec
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[MBZ] 22 inch staggered Ashanti rims 4, 000 is this available messages will be ignored

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

rollin on rubber bands yo

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/545653083027513/

2003 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 430 Sedan 4D
$4,000
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Re: [MBZ] Holy CRACK

2020-06-28 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
The Iranian body shop where I had 6 cars restored had one of those.  Will
pay for itself in 2 years I bet.

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wrote:

> Seems like someone with a magic printer could make the set for a whole lot
> less.
>
> Or, a CNC machine shop cut from sheet plastic.
>
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Re: [MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Have you tried the Vermont thing?

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> with 104k but still don't have the title for...
> 
> https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2005-mercedes-benz-ml350/7149810500.html
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[MBZ] This is like the $675 ML500 I got

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

with 104k but still don't have the title for...

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/myrtle-beach-2005-mercedes-benz-ml350/7149810500.html

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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Realtor Car -- 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Blue Tec - $16500 (Savannah)

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Looks pretty nice for boring white, and I suppose that price is not 
particularly unreasonable for a newer car


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I want one of those

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https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-2014-mercedes-benz-e250-blue/7149590423.html

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Re: [MBZ] Perfect Realtor Car -- 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Blue Tec - $16500 (Savannah)

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I want one of those 

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[MBZ] Perfect Realtor Car -- 2014 Mercedes Benz E250 Blue Tec - $16500 (Savannah)

2020-06-28 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-2014-mercedes-benz-e250-blue/7149590423.html

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[MBZ] Fakebook

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Now when I get on Fakebook I get ads for mini splits. Thanks Poos. 

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, June 28, 2020 10:20 am, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> If I get their adapter I presume I can use my automotive vacuum pump to
> pull a vacuum?

I bought an adapter and used my automotive manifold (low pressure gauge
side) and HF two stage pump. You don't want to use automotive gauges/hoses
on the high pressure side of a R410A system, but most mini splits only
have the low pressure gauge tap.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Maybe instead of looping it you can just move the outside unit down the wall a 
few feet to take up the extra length?

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> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly
>> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up
>> the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> 
> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop might
> be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might pay to
> download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Better yet, they have it on their web site with a number of different 
installation kits:

https://www.pioneerminisplit.com/collections/all-products/products/12-000-btu-ductless-dc-inverter-mini-split-air-conditioner-heat-pump-115-vac?variant=14703001534506
 


I would have to do some measuring, but I might get away with a 10’ line set. I 
could mount the condensor higher up on the exterior wall rather than on a pad 
to decrease the distance.

If I get their adapter I presume I can use my automotive vacuum pump to pull a 
vacuum?

-D


> On Jun 28, 2020, at 10:11 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The Pioneer unit I was looking at had a 16’ line set included with it. I’ll 
> see if I can find the docs for it and determine if there’s a minimum length.
> 
> I’m guessing the actual length I’l need will be maybe 10-12 feet at the most.
> 
> This is one that I was considering if you can see the image - if not I’ll 
> link to it.
> 
> 
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/201259284452836/
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly
>>> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up
>>> the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
>> 
>> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop might
>> be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might pay to
>> download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
The Pioneer unit I was looking at had a 16’ line set included with it. I’ll see 
if I can find the docs for it and determine if there’s a minimum length.

I’m guessing the actual length I’l need will be maybe 10-12 feet at the most.

This is one that I was considering if you can see the image - if not I’ll link 
to it.



https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/201259284452836/

Thanks!

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly
>> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up
>> the slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> 
> It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop might
> be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might pay to
> download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
On Sun, June 28, 2020 8:43 am, dan--- via Mercedes wrote:

>
> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly
> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up
> the slack rather than have to cut and flare?

It shouldn't, although some possibility of oil trapping in the loop might
be there. Many units have a 15' minimum on line length, it might pay to
download and read the install manual before you order the lineset.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
You can just loop it if you don’t want to cut/flare it. I think 15’ is a 
standard “short” length. 

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> On Jun 28, 2020, at 8:44 AM, dan--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Thanks for all the information, Mitch, appreciate it.
> 
> My install will be pretty straightforward. Interior unit high on side of 
> interior block (garage) wall, condensor on the outside of same wall, probably 
> 8’-10’ below the level of the interior unit. Around here code requires a 
> precast or composite pad of some sort, which I can buy from any number of 
> suppliers. If I do this myself I’ll make every effort to meet or exceed code 
> so that if I get busted inspection will go easy, as well as to give the 
> impression the install was done professionally.
> 
> On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly 
> longer than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up the 
> slack rather than have to cut and flare?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> What I did to mount the outdoor unit in cold climate:
>> 3 treated 2x4s.
>> Handful of coated nails.
>> 4 lag bolts.
>> Exterior paint.
>> 
>> Cut two 2x4s in half. Paint the 4 pieces and bury them so that the tops
>> are where you want the feet of the condenser unit.
>> Cut the other 2x4 into four pieces, the long ones 4" longer than the
>> condenser, the short ones 1" longer than the condenser is wide. Paint them
>> and nail them together to make a box 1" bigger than the condenser.
>> Nail the box to the four vertical 2x4s. I set the box so that the posts
>> were 1/2" lower than the top of the box.
>> Set the condenser in the box, and screw it to the tops of the posts with
>> the lag bolts.
>> 
>> In Florida, I might make the verticals 2-3' long and bury them so that the
>> condenser sits 6-12" above ground level. No need for snow clearance or
>> putting posts below the frost line. Only worry is ripping the posts out of
>> the ground in a hurricane.
>> 
>> I located it in front of the indoor wall unit, ran a CPVC gravity drain
>> down the wall and out the side of the house, and affixed the drain pipe to
>> the outdoor uprights with PVC pipe hangers. It looks slightly silly
>> sticking out 6" past the outdoor unit, but that puts the condensate where
>> it doesn't run down along the posts.
>> At my house I had the condensate outlet dead center under the stand, which
>> looked neater.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
Thanks for all the information, Mitch, appreciate it.

My install will be pretty straightforward. Interior unit high on side of 
interior block (garage) wall, condensor on the outside of same wall, probably 
8’-10’ below the level of the interior unit. Around here code requires a 
precast or composite pad of some sort, which I can buy from any number of 
suppliers. If I do this myself I’ll make every effort to meet or exceed code so 
that if I get busted inspection will go easy, as well as to give the impression 
the install was done professionally.

On thing I wondered about: If I get a pre-made line set that’s slightly longer 
than what I need, does it matter if I just looped it to take up the slack 
rather than have to cut and flare?

-D

> On Jun 28, 2020, at 7:51 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> What I did to mount the outdoor unit in cold climate:
> 3 treated 2x4s.
> Handful of coated nails.
> 4 lag bolts.
> Exterior paint.
> 
> Cut two 2x4s in half. Paint the 4 pieces and bury them so that the tops
> are where you want the feet of the condenser unit.
> Cut the other 2x4 into four pieces, the long ones 4" longer than the
> condenser, the short ones 1" longer than the condenser is wide. Paint them
> and nail them together to make a box 1" bigger than the condenser.
> Nail the box to the four vertical 2x4s. I set the box so that the posts
> were 1/2" lower than the top of the box.
> Set the condenser in the box, and screw it to the tops of the posts with
> the lag bolts.
> 
> In Florida, I might make the verticals 2-3' long and bury them so that the
> condenser sits 6-12" above ground level. No need for snow clearance or
> putting posts below the frost line. Only worry is ripping the posts out of
> the ground in a hurricane.
> 
> I located it in front of the indoor wall unit, ran a CPVC gravity drain
> down the wall and out the side of the house, and affixed the drain pipe to
> the outdoor uprights with PVC pipe hangers. It looks slightly silly
> sticking out 6" past the outdoor unit, but that puts the condensate where
> it doesn't run down along the posts.
> At my house I had the condensate outlet dead center under the stand, which
> looked neater.
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[MBZ] Speaking of crackish

2020-06-28 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Premium price, needs tranny. It is thistle green though

https://eastoregon.craigslist.org/cto/d/baker-city-w-tdt-mercedes-wagon-euro/7149717233.html

W123 300TDT Mercedes Wagon Euro Spec - $2800 (Baker City, OR)


1983 mercedes benz 300td 

condition: fair 
cylinders: 5 cylinders 
fuel: diesel 
odometer: 191446 
title status: clean 
transmission: automatic 

Hey there,

I have a W123 300 touring diesel turbo Mercedes wagon European spec. OM617 
engine, automatic, thistle green with dark green cloth interior.
It runs but does not upshift to third. A certified Mercedes mechanic says it 
does indeed need a new transmission. I have owned her for four years and done a 
lot of work to get her running, but needing a new transmission is out of my 
league both time and money-wise. So I'm putting out the feelers. If you have 
knowledge of this vehicle, are looking to burn some cash, and need a project, 
this would be a great car. 

It has manual windows and manual climate control. It has a US front bumper and 
Euro back bumper with the option for self-leveling lights. Manual sunroof 
works. The third-row seat is almost pristine. Oh, did I mention the horn? There 
is a country horn and city horn setting. 

The good:
-Recent valve adjustment
-All new filters (including tank)
-New primer pump 
-New glow plugs
-New shaft seal of the power steering pump
-New door actuators and vacuum connectors (locks work, turns off with key)
-New hood insulation 
-Interior is nice, minus rip in the driver's seat
-No blow by, cap doesn't dance 

The bad:
-The vacuum pump is reading at 17.5hg, should be at around 20hg - so a new pump 
would also be good.
-There are small spots of rust, especially under the battery 
-The back was hit at some point, is dented, and has rust
-Needs a paint job
-Needs new tires
-No AC 

The ugly:
-Needs a new transmission (I have checked everything - modulator, kick down 
switch, solenoid, bowden cable) When I changed the transmission fluid and 
filter it smelled burnt and there were many chunks of metal in the pan. If you 
buy it and fix it without putting in a new transmission you win all the things. 

If you are interested, send me an email. I have more photos if needed. 


tags; mercedes, wagon, w123, seattle, california, portland, oregon, 300TD, euro 
spec


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


What I did to mount the outdoor unit in cold climate:
3 treated 2x4s.
Handful of coated nails.
4 lag bolts.
Exterior paint.

Cut two 2x4s in half. Paint the 4 pieces and bury them so that the tops
are where you want the feet of the condenser unit.
Cut the other 2x4 into four pieces, the long ones 4" longer than the
condenser, the short ones 1" longer than the condenser is wide. Paint them
and nail them together to make a box 1" bigger than the condenser.
Nail the box to the four vertical 2x4s. I set the box so that the posts
were 1/2" lower than the top of the box.
Set the condenser in the box, and screw it to the tops of the posts with
the lag bolts.

In Florida, I might make the verticals 2-3' long and bury them so that the
condenser sits 6-12" above ground level. No need for snow clearance or
putting posts below the frost line. Only worry is ripping the posts out of
the ground in a hurricane.

I located it in front of the indoor wall unit, ran a CPVC gravity drain
down the wall and out the side of the house, and affixed the drain pipe to
the outdoor uprights with PVC pipe hangers. It looks slightly silly
sticking out 6" past the outdoor unit, but that puts the condensate where
it doesn't run down along the posts.
At my house I had the condensate outlet dead center under the stand, which
looked neater.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units

2020-06-28 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
Dan,  My Pioneer kit came with everything (lineset, wire, etc) needed to 
install except a line cover (recommended), wall brackets/pad, and 
disconnect/romex.  What kind of wall do you have?  Studs/sheetrock/sheething is 
easy to drill through (2 1/4 in hole) but you need to find the studs to attach 
the bracket.  Cement block is fine but harder to drill the big hole and 
tapcon-style fasteners needed.  The 110/220v wiring can be easy or hard 
depending on where to need to go to get to a breaker.  Code usually requires a 
disconnect outside very near the compressor.  There are many good how-to videos 
on YouTube.  Mechanical installation of the indoor and outdoor units id fast 
and easy unless you have oddball constraints like I did.  If you mount the 
outside unit on the wall get the kind of bracket with a horizontal bar that 
screws to the studs and brackets that slide left-right on the bar to match the 
evaporator feet (not an issue with cement block).  You'll need a quality flare 
tool if you need to cut and re-flare the refrigerant lines.

The refrigerant is in the evaporator but before releasing it into the system 
you'll want to do a leak check (preferably with dry nitrogen) and pump down the 
system with a vacuum pump (and again be sure it doesn’t leak).  In my case, my 
vacuum pump was ancient, I had no nitrogen/regulator, and no flare tool.  
That's why I hired a pro for these steps.  

If you have all the tools and no oddball considerations install is an easy one 
day job.  In my case it always seemed I needed some additional tool, drill bit, 
etc. so I probably installed in 8-10 hours spread over many days..

I am only conditioning about 600 sf but it is very leaky:  zero insulation, 
poor fitting doors, single-pane windows, and tongue and groove ceiling and 
floor (built in the 50s).  But the 1200BTU unit does fine in summer and keeps 
it above 60 degrees even when it's 20-30 degrees outside.  Unlike an old-style 
(on-off) system, it doesn't hurt (except in the wallet) to oversize there 
inverter systems because the motor speeds regulate to deliver the needed 
heat/cool.

> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
> Penoff via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, June 27, 2020 3:52 PM
> To: Okie Benz 
> Cc: Dan Penoff 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Mini Split AC Units
> 
> In my case this won’t be used a great deal, that is, maybe one day a week for 
> 6-
> 8 hours, worst case scenario. I’m not sure that dropping $1000 on even an LG
> makes sense in my case. I notice that you’ve also got to buy a lot of 
> additonal
> stuff, too, like a line set, cover for the lines, mounting pad or wall mount
> brackets for the condensor, etc…
> 
> Sounds like Scott had some luck with the Pioneer, which is one of the brands I
> see offered locally.I could probably do one of those installed for under 
> $1000.
> Considering the limited duty cycle, I’m thinking I could roll the dice on one 
> of
> these and probably come out OK.
> 
> One thing I did note - some of the cheap weird brand name mini splits
> apparently have SEER ratings in the low teens, like 13. According to one
> advertiser these are not legal for sale in the US. Interesting - gray market 
> AC
> units!
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 27, 2020, at 3:25 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> >
> > I put a 9k Fujitsu in my living room, still needed a 5k window unit in
> > the master bedroom to sleep in the worst weather as the bedroom door was
> 30'
> > away from the heat pump. In the winter I put a thermostat in the
> > bedroom, set it at 62 for sleeping, and ran the Fujitsu to heat the
> > living room and kitchen to daytime living temps. It worked, sort of, a
> > central air heat pump is more effective but less efficient.
> >
> > I've got 1200 well insulated square feet, with a 18k heat pump and 40k
> > furnace. The fixed speed heat pump can heat the house down to about 25
> > degrees. Below that the furnace needs to take over. But with
> > electricity over 15 cents and propane under $1, I don't use the heat
> > pump at all. I figure I put about $200-250 a year worth of electricity
> > through it cooling the house, so the payback on a more efficient more
> > expensive unit would exceed the expected lifespan.
> >
> > That original Fujitsu is still working fine, currently in the master
> > bedroom of my parents' house.
> >
> > This would probably work nicely in the areas near it, but you'd
> > probably want another for the bedroom. It's the new and improved
> > version of the one I had.
> > https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-09LMAS1/p106473.html
> >
> > This would do your whole house, but it's not cheap.
> > https://www.acwholesalers.com/Fujitsu-AOU24RLXFZ-2-ASU7RLF1-
> ASU9RLF1/p
> > 65951.html
> >
> > On Sat, June 27, 2020 11:17 am, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Me three. Our aged wall unit has finally irritated the wife. I
> >> suspect we can get by with something quite small, the house is only
>