Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

"It uses a nitrogen air battery that recharges while in flight."

I'd like to see how that this works.  Nitrogen gas is all but inert.  Many 
Nitrogen compounds are, well, unstable.



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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[G Mann via Mercedes]

There are two courses of action in humanity.
Those who plan and execute.
and
Those who react to whatever just happened.

Each individual chooses his own course.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 9:24 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I doubt the "thinking about the answer later" part ... it's just open
> mouths.
>
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  Or does crappy (rushed) testing result in false negatives where people
> > think they're no longer infected when they actually are and the
> > "reinfection" is just the original infection part 2.
> > The biggest problem in the whole epidemic is people opening their mouths
> > first and thinking about the answer later...
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I doubt the "thinking about the answer later" part ... it's just open
mouths.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 8:19 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  Or does crappy (rushed) testing result in false negatives where people
> think they're no longer infected when they actually are and the
> "reinfection" is just the original infection part 2.
> The biggest problem in the whole epidemic is people opening their mouths
> first and thinking about the answer later...
> -Curt
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

YES

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020, 9:58 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Yep. What he said. If you’re not in biz or first be back by the galley and
> heads. You can chat up the FAs and get treats and get to the head faster.
>
> And you can watch what is going on forward.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 9:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > When I was an international road warrior, I started out trying to be the
> > first guy off the plane... then run to the baggage area and stand waiting
> > for baggage to finally come up the ramp, then run for the car rental and
> > wait in line again...
> > Finally, it dawned on me... "Head Slap" ... why ride in the front, the
> > stewardess hang out on the back by the food carts, I get better and
> quicker
> > service during the flight, the tail is what usually survives the crash [I
> > hope] and by the time the plane is empty, the bags are ready, and the
> > rental car folks aren't flooded... [always had a car reserved, so no
> fight
> > there].
> >
> > YMMV.. good luck... just my accumulated experience...
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I sort of like the back due to what you say, but prefer the front due to
> >> getting off the plane first when landing. I have liked bulkheads but
> >> sometimes you can’t stretch your legs as much. If you are the next row
> or 2
> >> back in the main cabin you xtra you can stretch your legs up under the
> seat
> >> in front of you.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as
> >> close to
> >>> the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
> >>> door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
> >>> historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
> >>> generally..
> >>>
> >>> I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can
> be
> >>> first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them]
> as
> >>> soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind
> me
> >>> to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
> >>>
>  On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
>  someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch
> >> out.
> 
>  I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or
> business
>  class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re
> >> one
>  in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
> 
>  -D
> 
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>  mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid
> >> them?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yep. What he said. If you’re not in biz or first be back by the galley and 
heads. You can chat up the FAs and get treats and get to the head faster. 

And you can watch what is going on forward. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 9:29 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When I was an international road warrior, I started out trying to be the
> first guy off the plane... then run to the baggage area and stand waiting
> for baggage to finally come up the ramp, then run for the car rental and
> wait in line again...
> Finally, it dawned on me... "Head Slap" ... why ride in the front, the
> stewardess hang out on the back by the food carts, I get better and quicker
> service during the flight, the tail is what usually survives the crash [I
> hope] and by the time the plane is empty, the bags are ready, and the
> rental car folks aren't flooded... [always had a car reserved, so no fight
> there].
> 
> YMMV.. good luck... just my accumulated experience...
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I sort of like the back due to what you say, but prefer the front due to
>> getting off the plane first when landing. I have liked bulkheads but
>> sometimes you can’t stretch your legs as much. If you are the next row or 2
>> back in the main cabin you xtra you can stretch your legs up under the seat
>> in front of you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as
>> close to
>>> the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
>>> door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
>>> historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
>>> generally..
>>> 
>>> I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
>>> first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
>>> soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
>>> to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
>>> 
 On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
 
 They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
 someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch
>> out.
 
 I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
 class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re
>> one
 in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
 
 -D
 
> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
 mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid
>> them?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Airbus A320 and derivatives have the window seat in the second exit row with 
no seat directly in front of it. Glorious spot...When I used to fly Southwest a 
lot I made their business select or whatever it was called that always got me 
an A 1-15 spot, I snagged that seat frequently...I used to get free drinks 
tickets too, usually gave them to the center seat, last row person. Worst seat 
on the plane, I figured he/she deserved/earned it.

-Curt

On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 9:29:44 PM EDT, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On several trips my Mom and I were moved to bulkhead seats when we got to the 
gate (Delta).  Never available when I was making reservations, but for someone 
with limited mobility -- Mom needed a wheelchair in the terminal -- they are 
great.

No seat tray in front of you on a DC-9 or whatever it was called by then 
though, so that can be an issue.

My favorite seat was the emergency exit row over the wing on a 747 -- one row 
of seats missing there, infinite leg room.  Wonderful on a trans-Atlanitc 
flight.  Worst seat ever is the second to last row, window seat, on the same 
plane.  Fuselage shape gives you a triangle of foot space just large enough for 
your feet.  Seemed like forever before I could get off, stuck next to a chain 
smoker, too!  Which should tell you how long ago that was!
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I suspect most road warriors either learn that or get off the road... I 
usually stop for a snack before heading to baggage claim, there's no real rush.
I did a class at Tulane University about 10 years ago, the student was an older 
lady prof (well Doctorate actually) who picked me up at the airport. We're 
waiting for my bag when she declares "Well we'll have a long wait I'm sure, my 
bag never comes out first." I'm not kidding when at that very moment the first 
bag comes onto the belt and its mine...
-Curt

On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 9:29:31 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 When I was an international road warrior, I started out trying to be the
first guy off the plane... then run to the baggage area and stand waiting
for baggage to finally come up the ramp, then run for the car rental and
wait in line again...
Finally, it dawned on me... "Head Slap" ... why ride in the front, the
stewardess hang out on the back by the food carts, I get better and quicker
service during the flight, the tail is what usually survives the crash [I
hope] and by the time the plane is empty, the bags are ready, and the
rental car folks aren't flooded... [always had a car reserved, so no fight
there].

YMMV.. good luck... just my accumulated experience...

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I sort of like the back due to what you say, but prefer the front due to
> getting off the plane first when landing. I have liked bulkheads but
> sometimes you can’t stretch your legs as much. If you are the next row or 2
> back in the main cabin you xtra you can stretch your legs up under the seat
> in front of you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as
> close to
> > the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
> > door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
> > historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
> > generally..
> >
> > I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
> > first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
> > soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
> > to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
> >> someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch
> out.
> >>
> >> I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
> >> class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re
> one
> >> in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid
> them?
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

On several trips my Mom and I were moved to bulkhead seats when we got to the 
gate (Delta).  Never available when I was making reservations, but for someone 
with limited mobility -- Mom needed a wheelchair in the terminal -- they are 
great.

No seat tray in front of you on a DC-9 or whatever it was called by then 
though, so that can be an issue.

My favorite seat was the emergency exit row over the wing on a 747 -- one row 
of seats missing there, infinite leg room.  Wonderful on a trans-Atlanitc 
flight.  Worst seat ever is the second to last row, window seat, on the same 
plane.  Fuselage shape gives you a triangle of foot space just large enough for 
your feet.  Seemed like forever before I could get off, stuck next to a chain 
smoker, too!  Which should tell you how long ago that was!
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

When I was an international road warrior, I started out trying to be the
first guy off the plane... then run to the baggage area and stand waiting
for baggage to finally come up the ramp, then run for the car rental and
wait in line again...
Finally, it dawned on me... "Head Slap" ... why ride in the front, the
stewardess hang out on the back by the food carts, I get better and quicker
service during the flight, the tail is what usually survives the crash [I
hope] and by the time the plane is empty, the bags are ready, and the
rental car folks aren't flooded... [always had a car reserved, so no fight
there].

YMMV.. good luck... just my accumulated experience...

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 6:17 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I sort of like the back due to what you say, but prefer the front due to
> getting off the plane first when landing. I have liked bulkheads but
> sometimes you can’t stretch your legs as much. If you are the next row or 2
> back in the main cabin you xtra you can stretch your legs up under the seat
> in front of you.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as
> close to
> > the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
> > door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
> > historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
> > generally..
> >
> > I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
> > first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
> > soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
> > to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
> >
> >> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
> >> someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch
> out.
> >>
> >> I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
> >> class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re
> one
> >> in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid
> them?
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Depends on how long the flight is. If its over say 3 hours the bulkhead is 
good. If its over 8 hours its a requirement. For a short hop its annoying to 
not have my bag within reach...
-Curt

On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 7:57:02 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?

Sent from my iPhone

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Re: [MBZ] Things made in USA

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've used "made in USA" as an Amazon search term in the past but many of the 
results were doubtful.
There is also a "Made in USA" subreddit that lists many choices.I don't really 
need so many things anymore so I spend more time considering purchases. "Can I 
get made in USA?" If no, "Can I get made in Canada?" or made in Europe?
My rubber duck hunting boots were made in Canada, the second cheapest ones at 
Wal-Mart. They've been through 4 seasons now, still in perfect shape.

On Thursday, July 16, 2020, 10:06:14 AM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 A while back, we had discussions on things which were well made and were
a good value -- I specifically remember Curt and his socks.

I ran across this today:

https://clark.com/shopping-retail/american-made-in-the-usa/
    Here Are 100+ Brands That Are Made in the USA

    These 100+ brands and stores are 100% made in the USA. If you’re in
    the patriotic spirit, or just want to support American small business,
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Or does crappy (rushed) testing result in false negatives where people think 
they're no longer infected when they actually are and the "reinfection" is just 
the original infection part 2.
The biggest problem in the whole epidemic is people opening their mouths first 
and thinking about the answer later...
-Curt

On Wednesday, July 15, 2020, 6:50:46 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 And then the crisis will be over, regardless of the efficacy (or
longevity) of the vaccine.

Question for Karl: Are people really getting re-infected within 3 months?
Is it because the disease mutated or because the body didn't feel like
keeping the antibodies for future usage? I'm thinking mutation, because
the latter just doesn't compute.

Do reinfections tend to be less of a problem than the initial infection,
since the body has already dealt with a related infection before?

Mitch.

On Wed, July 15, 2020 6:07 pm, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> I predict we will get rushed approval on a vaccine (Moderna most likely).


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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I sort of like the back due to what you say, but prefer the front due to 
getting off the plane first when landing. I have liked bulkheads but sometimes 
you can’t stretch your legs as much. If you are the next row or 2 back in the 
main cabin you xtra you can stretch your legs up under the seat in front of 
you. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 8:12 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as close to
> the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
> door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
> historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
> generally..
> 
> I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
> first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
> soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
> to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
> 
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
>> someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch out.
>> 
>> I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
>> class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re one
>> in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Good points. We were taught in an aircraft survival course I took to count seat 
backs to each emergency exit in each direction. When the lights are out or the 
cabin is filled with smoke vision isn’t going to be a lot of help.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 9:11 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as close to
> the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
> door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
> historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
> generally..
> 
> I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
> first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
> soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
> to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].
> 
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
>> someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch out.
>> 
>> I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
>> class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re one
>> in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[G Mann via Mercedes]

After millions of air miles, I gravitate towards always setting as close to
the rear of the airplane as I can get, and as near to a cockpit exit
door... When airliners crash... the greatest number of survivors is
historically at the tail of the aircraft... impact starts at the nose,
generally..

I strongly prefer an aisle seat so that on landing, or crashing, I can be
first to the exit. I ALWAYS identify where the exits are [all of them] as
soon as I take the seat and count the number of seats ahead and behind me
to gain those exits.. [plan ahead to get ahead].

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 5:02 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have
> someone’s seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch out.
>
> I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business
> class. The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re one
> in front of the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Costco diesel oil

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I saw NAPA "synthetic" on sale for $16/gal last week. Considered getting some 
but they didn't have any I was interested in for the tractor at camp. It was 
all 5w20 or 5w30. I've been using 15w40 conventional in the tractor to get some 
ZDDP to protect the flat tappets.
All my small equipment gets M1 5w40 Turbo Diesel truck. Although I did notice 
that NAPA had Delvac 1 which I haven't seen for many years...
-Curt

On Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 2:09:14 PM EDT, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 On Tue, July 14, 2020 1:59 pm, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> 3gal $27

I got 2 gal of WallyWorld Supertech (straight 30W) for $5 last week.
That'll keep the lawn mowers filled for several years. Don't dare put 30W
in the generator, never know when I'll get another December ice storm.

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Re: [MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

They’re a double edged sword in my book. Nice because you don’t have someone’s 
seat back in your face, but suck because you can’t stretch out.

I always went for exit rows when I wasn’t upgraded to first or business class. 
The second exit row, I would add, as the first one (if they’re one in front of 
the other) doesn’t have reclining seat backs.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 7:56 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Plane broke down

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I mean, you do that at Burbank. The good thing about it is the load and unload 
from both ends of the plane at the same time...

-Curt

On Monday, July 13, 2020, 7:24:35 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes  writes:

> I just landed. This is smallest airport I have ever been to. It’s literally 
> in some farmers pasture. It has 1 jet bridge. 

If it has a jet bridge it's not too bad.

At the local airport here you would be going down stairs and walking
across the apron to the terminal.

Allan

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[MBZ] Frequent fliers thoughts on bulkhead seats?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

For those who have flown a lot, do you like bulkhead seats or avoid them?

Sent from my iPhone

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[MBZ] Fwd: 240D parts Mercedes

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Not mine.

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Re: [MBZ] Finnie coupe BATmobile

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Well beyond Martha’ing. Someone already referenced it as a parts car.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> 
> Finnie needs Marthaing
> 
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-300se-coupe/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Perpetual motion!

--FT

On 7/16/20 1:37 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

It uses a nitrogen air battery that recharges while in flight.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


“Who’s got the extension cord? Did you bring the 50 meter one”

-D


On Jul 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 

wrote:

Refueling mid air could be tricky ---

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM Craig via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com>

wrote:


On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:10:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 wrote:


On the cutting edge of warfare...

Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries

Wars are not won with fads.


Craig

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"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”

Wernher

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[fmiser via Mercedes]

> > Andrew wrote:

> > Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries

> Craig wrote:
> 
> Wars are not won with fads.

Well, they might be, but it's a risky gamble

My first thought was "Jet?  Electric?  Huh???"  Ducted fan - yes.
Jet - I don't see how it could possibly be.  

By strict definition, a jet's thrust is from jet propulsion.  I am
not aware of any method of using electricity to generate jet
propulsion.

That said, most subsonic "jet" aircraft engines are turbofans and
generate most of their thrust from the bypass fans driven by a
turbine rather than from jet propulsion - thus making it more of a
ducted fan than a jet.

For supersonic flight, a jet is more effective.  And generally a
fighter is required to achieve speeds greater than Mach 2.

And that's just the engine - ignoring the problem of batteries,
weight, and refueling.

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[MBZ] Finnie coupe BATmobile

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Finnie needs Marthaing

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1965-mercedes-benz-300se-coupe/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

It uses a nitrogen air battery that recharges while in flight.

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:37 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> “Who’s got the extension cord? Did you bring the 50 meter one”
>
> -D
>
> > On Jul 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Refueling mid air could be tricky ---
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:10:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
> >>  wrote:
> >>
> >>> On the cutting edge of warfare...
> >>>
> >>> Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries
> >>
> >> Wars are not won with fads.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
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> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] Lightly optioned 1973 280 gets lots of love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The green '75 240D sold for $9k

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:34 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> Just another W115. And not even green.
>
> But you don't see a 1957 Vega every day:
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-facel-vega-fv2b/
>
> And there's a Westie today:
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-volkswagen-westfalia-camper-second-generation-t2/
>
> Plain Jane 2002s are worth how much?
> And it's the 50th time somebody's listed a 1972 on BAT?
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002-50/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

“Who’s got the extension cord? Did you bring the 50 meter one”

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 1:33 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Refueling mid air could be tricky ---
> 
> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> 
>> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:10:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> On the cutting edge of warfare...
>>> 
>>> Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries
>> 
>> Wars are not won with fads.
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
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> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Refueling mid air could be tricky ---

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:30 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:10:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > On the cutting edge of warfare...
> >
> > Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries
>
> Wars are not won with fads.
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] Lightly optioned 1973 280 gets lots of love on BAT

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Just another W115. And not even green.

But you don't see a 1957 Vega every day:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1957-facel-vega-fv2b/

And there's a Westie today:
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1971-volkswagen-westfalia-camper-second-generation-t2/

Plain Jane 2002s are worth how much?
And it's the 50th time somebody's listed a 1972 on BAT?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1972-bmw-2002-50/

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:10:47 -0400 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 wrote:

> On the cutting edge of warfare...
> 
> Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries

Wars are not won with fads.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 11:56:09 -0400 Mitch Haley via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Dealer maintained, so if the balance shaft chain has been done a dealer
> should be able to pull up the history for it.

The balance shaft issue was with vergasser engines.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

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On Thu, 16 Jul 2020 12:11:55 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
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> Not a bad deal for what it is. I wonder if it’s got Black Death?
> Definitely want to pull the cover off the top of the engine and look.

I should think the black-colored body could also be called the Black
Death in Arizona.  :-)


Craig

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[MBZ] Lightly optioned 1973 280 gets lots of love on BAT

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I sold my blue /blue '73 280 in 1983 for $4850.
Imagine a black interior in FL...

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1973-mercedes-benz-280-7/?utm_source=dm&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2020-07-16
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Do yourself a favor and buy a scanner -- $150 -- get the 38-pin adapter 
cable too.  If you are serious about looking at these newer cars you can 
see a lot of stuff in the nannies and decide if the are fatal errors or 
old errors or something you can clear and see what the car does.  This 
unit will do a lot of what the Star/DAS computer system will do


https://www.amazon.com/iCarsoft-Professional-Multi-System-V2-0-Mercedes-Benz/dp/B0791CDHS1/ref=pd_lpo_263_t_2/144-0287792-7885340H

https://www.amazon.com/iCarsoft-Benz-38-Diagnostic-Adapter-diagnose/dp/B07ML5ZM9D?th=1

--FT

On 7/16/20 10:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this.

Bob R



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

I keep forgetting 2006 was still I-6 not V6.
Mitch.

On Thu, July 16, 2020 12:16 pm, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> Never heard of a balance shaft issue on these.
>


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

That's the 350?

--FT

On 7/16/20 12:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Never heard of a balance shaft issue on these.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
wrote:

Dealer maintained, so if the balance shaft chain has been done a dealer
should be able to pull up the history for it.

Brakes could be the normal 'I didn't do any maintenance so now it needs
pads, rotors and calipers'.


On Thu, July 16, 2020 10:43 am, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this.



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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I don’t think they have one, do they?

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 12:16 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Never heard of a balance shaft issue on these. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Dealer maintained, so if the balance shaft chain has been done a dealer
>> should be able to pull up the history for it.
>> 
>> Brakes could be the normal 'I didn't do any maintenance so now it needs
>> pads, rotors and calipers'.
>> 
>>> On Thu, July 16, 2020 10:43 am, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Never heard of a balance shaft issue on these. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:57 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dealer maintained, so if the balance shaft chain has been done a dealer
> should be able to pull up the history for it.
> 
> Brakes could be the normal 'I didn't do any maintenance so now it needs
> pads, rotors and calipers'.
> 
>> On Thu, July 16, 2020 10:43 am, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The alert in the display is due to the auxiliary battery (about $50-$100 
depending on who you buy it from) and possibly the high current battery relay 
being bad. My oldest son’s former E320 CDI has the same issue.

ESP could be any number of things, but if it’s the SBC (brakes) there’s a 25 
year warranty on it from Mercedes.

Not a bad deal for what it is. I wonder if it’s got Black Death? Definitely 
want to pull the cover off the top of the engine and look.

-D

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 10:43 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> 
>> 
>> 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI
>> 
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[MBZ] OT: Britain's next fighter jet?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

On the cutting edge of warfare...

Britain's next fighter jet could be powered by batteries

Published: Thursday, July 16, 2020

BAE Systems PLC, the developer of Britain's next fighter jet, said it's
considering powering the planned warplane using alternative propulsion such
as hybrid or fully electric systems.

BAE, which is working with engine-maker Rolls-Royce Holdings PLC and
others, is "examining all options" to power the plane, manufacturing
director Dave Holmes said on a webcast yesterday. The Tempest is due to
join the Royal Air Force fleet from 2035.

"I wouldn't rule anything out," he said. "If you're looking at something
that's going to be in service out to 2050 to 2060 and beyond, all of those
options are very feasible."

Electric flight is still in its infancy. One of the biggest challenges
remains the weight of the batteries required to get anything other than a
very small plane into the air. Rolls-Royce developed a hybrid-electric
commercial-aircraft concept called E-Fan X with European planemaker Airbus
SE, though the project was suspended this year as the coronavirus pandemic
weighed on the sector.

BAE envisions using newer manufacturing techniques such as 3D printing on
the Tempest. It said yesterday it will also work with Williams Advanced
Engineering to adapt battery-management and cooling technologies used in
Formula E race cars. The company, part of Formula 1 supplier Williams Grand
Prix Holdings PLC, aims to deliver energy at lighter weights, according to
its technical director, Paul McNamara.
Drone fleet

Technology has transformed aerial warfare since the Tempest's predecessor,
the Typhoon, first came into service in the early 2000s. While plans are
fluid, the U.K.'s Ministry of Defence has said it's looking at designs for
unmanned drones that can fly alongside fighters like the Tempest.

Drones have helped to speed electrification, though battery power is
usually used on smaller craft requiring stealth. Larger ones typically have
conventional turbofan engines.

The E-Fan X demonstrator replaced one of four jet engines with an electric
motor and has a high power battery pack to provide energy storage.

Airbus is working on a French-German rival to the British Tempest project
with Dassault Aviation SA. The European planemaker has said its next
narrow-body commercial aircraft, also targeted for the mid-2030s, will use
alternative power.

BAE, which is also working with Italy's Leonardo SpA and missile maker
MBDA, said it's not focused on the competition but on meeting its own
goals, and continues active discussions with other potential partners.

Sweden's Saab AB signed a memorandum of understanding to join the Tempest
project last July. *— Charlotte Ryan, Bloomberg*
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

Dealer maintained, so if the balance shaft chain has been done a dealer
should be able to pull up the history for it.

Brakes could be the normal 'I didn't do any maintenance so now it needs
pads, rotors and calipers'.

On Thu, July 16, 2020 10:43 am, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this.



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[MBZ] Fwd: 2006 Mercedes 320 CDI

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Clearly he didn’t do the brake recall. May have to look at this. 

Bob R


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[MBZ] Things made in USA

[Craig via Mercedes]

A while back, we had discussions on things which were well made and were
a good value -- I specifically remember Curt and his socks.

I ran across this today:

https://clark.com/shopping-retail/american-made-in-the-usa/
Here Are 100+ Brands That Are Made in the USA

These 100+ brands and stores are 100% made in the USA. If you’re in
the patriotic spirit, or just want to support American small business,
here’s a list of companies to consider! If you want to shop American
at Amazon, go to
https://www.amazon.com/s?i=merchant-items&me=A1JM9QYIP9JCGO&tag=clarkmainsite-20
 ,
but remember to double-check the seller before purchase.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Don’t go to New Mexico

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Hey, what a great idea!  Those at high risk that don't want to catch the virus 
can simply wear an N95 mask.  Doesn't matter what everyone else does, you're 
covered!

Jul 15, 2020 8:51:42 PM OK Don via Mercedes :

I
> don't like to wear a mask anymore than anyone else, but I've taken to
> wearing the N95 in stores as so few others are wearing any kind of mask.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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