Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 03:36:45 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> I think the transition to the second version happened when they added
> the filters to the HVAC system.

Oh, OK. I guess when I take things apart I will see whether it has air
filters and thus know what version I have. Of course part numbers should
help in determining, too.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

I think the transition to the second version happened when they added the 
filters to the HVAC system.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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Re: [MBZ] Diesel STRONG!!! Wow!! Power, Longevity, Luxury, and Safety rolled up into ONE Awesome Package!!!

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I saw this GLA thing the other day. Tiny. It could be a spare for the GL(S 
these days)

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>  wrote:
> 
> There is a big difference between a GL and a GLK. It’s like comparing a c 
> class to a s class. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I paid 10k less for my GLK 250 so no, that is not a good starting point.
>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It looks pretty nice, that is probably a reasonable price to start
>>> dickering at
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *2014 Mercedes Benz GL350 Blutec *DIESEL Strong!!! Wow! Lw MILES!!
>>> - $22,887(Triad)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/high-point-diesel-strong-wow-lw/7230831678.html
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 01:09:46 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> You can also buy a new motor with fan blades attached, at a much higher
> price.  Note that even though there are two styles of motors and
> blades, the first style is sold in both forms (with or without blades)
> but I could never find the second version without blades.  I have
> successfully modified the first version motor to fit the second version
> cars.

Do you have any idea when the transition from first version to second
version was made?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 00:58:00 + (UTC) Max Dillon via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Chapter 83 of the FSM has the full description.

I looked in Chapter 83 (contents listed below). I see

   83-670 - Removal and installation of electronic blower regulator

I presume this also talks about the blower motor.


> The motor and the power supply for the motor live deep in the cowling
> underneath the windshield wiper.  R & R takes the better part of a day,
> a few fiddly things and plenty of opportunities to drop fasteners into
> deep crevasses.

Thank you for your detailed instructions.


> A special tool is needed to drive the fan blades off the motor shafts:
> I bought mine from Ken Bergsma years ago, it was included in a kit that
> included step by step  instructions.

I'll see what happens with my investigation of the blower motor on Monday.


Craig




83 Climate Control System

Maintenance Jobs - 1986 through 1993

8312 - Checking, correcting A/C refrigerant charge
8381 - Replacing dust filter for heating/ventilation
8382 - Replacing active charcoal filter
8383 - Replacing recirculating air filter 

Maintenance Jobs - 1994 through 1995

8312 - Checking, correcting A/C refrigerant charge
8381 - Replacing dust filter for heating/ventilation
8382 - Replacing active charcoal filter
8383 - Replacing recirculating air filter
8384 - Replacing activated charcoal prefilter
AP83_00-8381 - Replacing dust filter for heater/ventilation 

Service Information

83/83 - Conversion of R12 to environmentally friendly R134a 

General, technical data and Miscellaneous

00-005 - Instructions for use of Service Manual
00-010 - Engine and Vehicle Identification
00-015 - Vehicle Identification Number Locations
83-040 - Grille on air inlet removal and installation
- same as 83-140
83-140 - Grille on air inlet removal and installation
(also see Ian's write-up) 

Section I - Heating and Ventilation

83-522 - Removal and installation of heat exchange
83-525 - Checking oil level in A/C compressor
83-530 - Removal and installation of A/C compressor
83-532 - Removal and installation of speed sensor on
A/C compressor 

Section I - Air Conditioning I

83-534 - Replacing shaft seal on A/C compressor
83-536 - Removal and installation of electromagnetic
clutch, removal, installation and checking
of solenoid coil
83-537 - Removal and installation of series resistor
for auxiliary fan
83-538 - Removal and installation of condenser
83-540 - Removal and installation of fluid reservoir
83-542 - Testing, removal and installation of pressure
switch for A/C compressor in fluid reservoir
83-544 - Testing, removal and installation of pressure
switch for auxiliary fan in fluid reservoir
83-546 - Testing, removal and installation of evaporator
temperature sensor
83-547 - Testing, removal and installation of outside air
temperature sensor
83-552 - Removal and installation of expansion valve
83-554 - Removal and installation of evaporator
83-556 - Removal and installation of blower motor
(also see Ian's write-up)
83-558 - Removal and installation of air conditioning/automatic
temperature control unit (up to 8/87)
83-560 - Removal and replacement of auxiliary fan
83-562 - Testing, removal and installation of switch for air
conditioning/automatic temperature control
(up to 8/87)
83-564 - Testing, removal and installation of switch for fresh
air/recirculated air (up to 8/87)
83-566 - Removal and installation of switch-over valve (Y13/1)
or 4-point valve block (Y11) for fresh
air/recirculated air flap
83-568 - Removal and installation of vacuum elements
83-570 - Testing, removal and installation of speed sensor on
starter ring gear (model 124.1) 

Section II - Air Conditioning II

83-600 - Description of function of automatic climate control
Select page... 
83-601 - Checking functions of automatic climate control
Select page... 
83-602 - Checking regulating quality and heating output
83-603 - Testing the automatic climate control with the impulse
counter (as of 9/87)
83-604 - Checking electric components of the automatic
climate control
Select page... 
83-605 - Checking compressor cutoff and remedial measures
Select page... 
83-606 - Electric circuit diagrams
83-607 - Checking refrigerating capacity (short test)
83-608 - Checking refrigerating capacity and suction/high
pressure
83-620 - Checking flap control vacuum system for leaks
Select page... 
83-622 - Removal and 

Re: [MBZ] Diesel STRONG!!! Wow!! Power, Longevity, Luxury, and Safety rolled up into ONE Awesome Package!!!

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

There is a big difference between a GL and a GLK. It’s like comparing a c class 
to a s class. 

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 7:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I paid 10k less for my GLK 250 so no, that is not a good starting point.
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>  It looks pretty nice, that is probably a reasonable price to start
>>  dickering at
>> 
>> 
>>  *2014 Mercedes Benz GL350 Blutec *DIESEL Strong!!! Wow! Lw MILES!!
>>  - $22,887(Triad)
>> 
>> 
>> https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/high-point-diesel-strong-wow-lw/7230831678.html
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel STRONG!!! Wow!! Power, Longevity, Luxury, and Safety rolled up into ONE Awesome Package!!!

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I paid 10k less for my GLK 250 so no, that is not a good starting point.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:39 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
>   It looks pretty nice, that is probably a reasonable price to start
>   dickering at
>
>
>   *2014 Mercedes Benz GL350 Blutec *DIESEL Strong!!! Wow! Lw MILES!!
>   - $22,887(Triad)
>
>
> https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/high-point-diesel-strong-wow-lw/7230831678.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

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I still have it, although it needs injectors. 

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:51 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> what happened to your big fancy Duramax?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Whatever is on the door. You don’t need that truck, but I do. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On the new to me 2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.9 I got from my old man, 
>>> there are nice, new Michelins. On the tires it reads that they should be 
>>> inflated to 80psi. The sticker on the door reads 60psi front, 70psi rear. 
>>> Who wins?
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

You can also buy a new motor with fan blades attached, at a much higher price.  
Note that even though there are two styles of motors and blades, the first 
style is sold in both forms (with or without blades) but I could never find the 
second version without blades.  I have successfully modified the first version 
motor to fit the second version cars.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 14, 2020 7:58:10 PM Max Dillon :

> Chapter 83 of the FSM has the full description.
> 
> The motor and the power supply for the motor live deep in the cowling 
> underneath the windshield wiper.  R & R takes the better part of a day, a few 
> fiddly things and plenty of opportunities to drop fasteners into deep 
> crevasses.
> 
> Open the hood to 90 degrees, I think you park the wiper at center of 
> windshield,  remove the battery, remove the weather strip at base of 
> windshield, pull the two small white clips out to the front (these little 
> clips, one in each side, connect the outer water drain channels to the center 
> drain channel / intake grill, and they are underneath the channels and hard 
> to see), remove the channels and the center plastic, then the wiper motor 
> assembly, then the plastic cover on top of the blower motor, then you have 
> access to the blower motor.  Buried under the blower motor is the power 
> supply attached to a heat sink.
> 
> The power supply gets a voltage signal from the push button unit, and 
> provides power to the blower motor.
> 
> In my experience, I've replaced two blower motors (I used new Bosch motors 
> that came without the squirrel cage fan blades) and one power supply.  The 
> power supply started making a funny noise (buzzing) so it was replaced.  One 
> motor died suddenly.  One died intermittently.
> 
> A special tool is needed to drive the fan blades off the motor shafts: I 
> bought mine from Ken Bergsma years ago, it was included in a kit that 
> included step by step  instructions.
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> Nov 14, 2020 7:18:13 PM Craig via Mercedes :
> 
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:24:54 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Put your meter on the contacts and see if you are actually getting
>>> power to the motor, then test each component to see if it is passing
>>> electrons to the motor.  Brushes bad?  Bearing seized? Motor burned
>>> out?  Squirrel nuts in the blower?
>> 
>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:57:04 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes it will come on without starting. Most likely is the blower motor
>>> resister under the wiper assembly and fan motor.
>> 
>> So I have been searching through the schematic file and have not found the
>> blower or its wiring, except a mention on the power distribution page
>> which says to look at the fuseblock information -- but that has nothing on
>> it.
>> 
>> I'm totally ignorant about this aspect of W124s. Please bear with me!
>> 
>> Where do I find the blower motor resistor?
>> 
>> Where do I find the blower motor?
>> 
>> Would the pushbutton assembly have anything to do with it?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On 11/14/20 6:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
 On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
> Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch
> on the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those
> fuses can crack and look fine but not transfer current.
 I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
 remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
 they were removed -- and found it OK.
 
 I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
 key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.
 
 H ...
 
 Craig
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

W124 does not have a resistor array, it has a duty cycle switching system (the 
"porcupine" under the blower.

Either or both can be bad, and if the blower has been dragging, when it locks 
up it can kill the switch box.  Expensive, I ended up with a cheap chinese 
version in the wagon -- first one didn't last long, second one is OK.  
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Chapter 83 of the FSM has the full description.

The motor and the power supply for the motor live deep in the cowling 
underneath the windshield wiper.  R & R takes the better part of a day, a few 
fiddly things and plenty of opportunities to drop fasteners into deep crevasses.

Open the hood to 90 degrees, I think you park the wiper at center of 
windshield,  remove the battery, remove the weather strip at base of 
windshield, pull the two small white clips out to the front (these little 
clips, one in each side, connect the outer water drain channels to the center 
drain channel / intake grill, and they are underneath the channels and hard to 
see), remove the channels and the center plastic, then the wiper motor 
assembly, then the plastic cover on top of the blower motor, then you have 
access to the blower motor.  Buried under the blower motor is the power supply 
attached to a heat sink.

The power supply gets a voltage signal from the push button unit, and provides 
power to the blower motor.

In my experience, I've replaced two blower motors (I used new Bosch motors that 
came without the squirrel cage fan blades) and one power supply.  The power 
supply started making a funny noise (buzzing) so it was replaced.  One motor 
died suddenly.  One died intermittently.

A special tool is needed to drive the fan blades off the motor shafts: I bought 
mine from Ken Bergsma years ago, it was included in a kit that included step by 
step  instructions.
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 14, 2020 7:18:13 PM Craig via Mercedes :

> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:24:54 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Put your meter on the contacts and see if you are actually getting
>> power to the motor, then test each component to see if it is passing
>> electrons to the motor.  Brushes bad?  Bearing seized? Motor burned
>> out?  Squirrel nuts in the blower?
> 
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:57:04 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
> 
>> Yes it will come on without starting. Most likely is the blower motor
>> resister under the wiper assembly and fan motor.
> 
> So I have been searching through the schematic file and have not found the
> blower or its wiring, except a mention on the power distribution page
> which says to look at the fuseblock information -- but that has nothing on
> it.
> 
> I'm totally ignorant about this aspect of W124s. Please bear with me!
> 
> Where do I find the blower motor resistor?
> 
> Where do I find the blower motor?
> 
> Would the pushbutton assembly have anything to do with it?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Craig
> 
>> On 11/14/20 6:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
>>> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
 Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch
 on the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those
 fuses can crack and look fine but not transfer current.
>>> I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
>>> remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
>>> they were removed -- and found it OK.
>>> 
>>> I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
>>> key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.
>>> 
>>> H ...
>>> 
>>> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:35:06 -0600 OK Don via Mercedes
 wrote:

> The blower is under the wiper assembly - I had to replace the blower in
> the '90 that I bought from Snook. It gives you an excuse/opportunity to
> clean and lube the wiper assembly while you have it out getting to the
> blower. I don't remember all the steps, but I think I did it in less
> than a full day, unlike the blower in a W115 ...

Thank you, Don.

I remember now someone posting he got a finger/thumb pinched by the wiper
assembly because he did not disconnect the battery ...

I presume I can also change the HVAC filters at the same time.

Seeing how it's now late, I guess I won't be starting the process.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

what happened to your big fancy Duramax?

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 4:51 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Whatever is on the door. You don’t need that truck, but I do. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On the new to me 2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.9 I got from my old man, 
>> there are nice, new Michelins. On the tires it reads that they should be 
>> inflated to 80psi. The sticker on the door reads 60psi front, 70psi rear. 
>> Who wins?
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The blower is under the wiper assembly - I had to replace the blower in the
'90 that I bought from Snook. It gives you an excuse/opportunity to clean
and lube the wiper assembly while you have it out getting to the blower. I
don't remember all the steps, but I think I did it in less than a full day,
unlike the blower in a W115 ...

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 6:18 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:24:54 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Put your meter on the contacts and see if you are actually getting
> > power to the motor, then test each component to see if it is passing
> > electrons to the motor.  Brushes bad?  Bearing seized? Motor burned
> > out?  Squirrel nuts in the blower?
>
> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:57:04 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Yes it will come on without starting. Most likely is the blower motor
> > resister under the wiper assembly and fan motor.
>
>
> So I have been searching through the schematic file and have not found the
> blower or its wiring, except a mention on the power distribution page
> which says to look at the fuseblock information -- but that has nothing on
> it.
>
> I'm totally ignorant about this aspect of W124s. Please bear with me!
>
> Where do I find the blower motor resistor?
>
> Where do I find the blower motor?
>
> Would the pushbutton assembly have anything to do with it?
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Craig
>
>
>
> > On 11/14/20 6:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> > >  wrote:
> > >
> > >> Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch
> > >> on the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those
> > >> fuses can crack and look fine but not transfer current.
> > > I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
> > > remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
> > > they were removed -- and found it OK.
> > >
> > > I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
> > > key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.
> > >
> > > H ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That is the real beauty of a trust. Everything is pretty much transparent to 
the heirs, and it’s a fairly simple matter for the trustee to execute the 
process for probate.

-D

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 7:30 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> When my father died in 2012, I was the trustee. Probate took a little more
> than a year before I could disburse the funds to my siblings. The lawyer
> who helped us with the probate process (an old friend) recommended that we
> get a trust in place to save our kids from the probate hassle. even with
> the "old friend" discount, getting a trust in place, turn-key, with another
> lawyer cost almost exactly the same as the probate process, and it's all
> paid in advance - no cost to our kids to execute the instructions in the
> trust - even the lawyer is paid for, should he be needed. I thought it was
> a heck of a deal.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 5:55 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
>> Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
>> for me too.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Peter Frederick 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson
>> 
>> So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
>> almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.
>> 
>> I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
>> is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
>> nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
>> health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when
>> her
>> father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
>> got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed
>> away
>> 5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.
>> 
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> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[OK Don via Mercedes]

When my father died in 2012, I was the trustee. Probate took a little more
than a year before I could disburse the funds to my siblings. The lawyer
who helped us with the probate process (an old friend) recommended that we
get a trust in place to save our kids from the probate hassle. even with
the "old friend" discount, getting a trust in place, turn-key, with another
lawyer cost almost exactly the same as the probate process, and it's all
paid in advance - no cost to our kids to execute the instructions in the
trust - even the lawyer is paid for, should he be needed. I thought it was
a heck of a deal.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 5:55 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
> Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
> for me too.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson
>
> So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
> almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.
>
> I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
> is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
> nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
> health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when
> her
> father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
> got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed
> away
> 5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

We have a trust set up in order to essentially bypass probate and convey all of 
our belongings, etc., to our children upon our passing. However, I would warn 
anyone considering a trust that they can be expensive and complex to set up. 
Our probate attorney typically doesn’t recommend them unless you’ve got more 
than $500k in assets. We didn’t when ours was set up, but it’s how we wanted 
things done, so we bit the bullet and spent the money for peace of mind.

To give you an idea, our probate attorney charges about $2k to do a husband and 
wife’s wills, durable power of attorney, and all the related paperwork. He has 
a 25 page form you have to fill out in advance of him doing any of the work, 
and you meet at least once after the form is turned in to review everything. 
Don’t rely on a “do it yourself” will or something like that, as it’s not worth 
the potential headaches it could cause for your heirs. We’re comfortable that 
things will go as we want them to when we’re gone.

-D

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 6:55 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
> Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
> for me too. 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson
> 
> So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
> almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.
> 
> I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
> is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
> nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
> health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when her
> father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
> got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed away
> 5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.
> 
> Peter
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 18:24:54 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Put your meter on the contacts and see if you are actually getting
> power to the motor, then test each component to see if it is passing
> electrons to the motor.  Brushes bad?  Bearing seized? Motor burned
> out?  Squirrel nuts in the blower?

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 17:57:04 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Yes it will come on without starting. Most likely is the blower motor
> resister under the wiper assembly and fan motor. 


So I have been searching through the schematic file and have not found the
blower or its wiring, except a mention on the power distribution page
which says to look at the fuseblock information -- but that has nothing on
it.

I'm totally ignorant about this aspect of W124s. Please bear with me!

Where do I find the blower motor resistor?

Where do I find the blower motor?

Would the pushbutton assembly have anything to do with it?

Thank you,


Craig



> On 11/14/20 6:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> > On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> >> Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch
> >> on the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those
> >> fuses can crack and look fine but not transfer current.
> > I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
> > remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
> > they were removed -- and found it OK.
> >
> > I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
> > key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.
> >
> > H ...
> >
> >
> > Craig

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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes it will come on without starting. Most likely is the blower motor resister 
under the wiper assembly and fan motor. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:52 PM, Craig via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> The HVAC blower motor of our '93 300D/2.5 Turbo does not work. I checked
> the strip fuse in front of the fuse box and found it is good.
> 
> Will the blower run before the engine is started? I brought the car into
> the Big Room because the wind is out of the west at 35 gusting to 45
> right now and I definitely do not want to start the engine with the car
> inside. That is, if I turn the key to the normal running position but do
> not turn it one step further to start the engine is the blower supposed
> be able to run?
> 
> Beyond checking the strip fuse, does anyone have any experience
> troubleshooting inoperative blowers?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Thank you all for your kind thoughts.
Peter, good idea on the trust.  My mother did that and it might make sense
for me too. 

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2020 4:53 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is
almost 97, so it's only a matter of time.

I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It
is far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say
nothing of less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home
health care in the future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when her
father passed away (an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and
got everything put the way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed away
5 years ago everything went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.

Peter
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Whatever is on the door. You don’t need that truck, but I do. 

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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the new to me 2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.9 I got from my old man, 
> there are nice, new Michelins. On the tires it reads that they should be 
> inflated to 80psi. The sticker on the door reads 60psi front, 70psi rear. 
> Who wins?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Put your meter on the contacts and see if you are actually getting power 
to the motor, then test each component to see if it is passing electrons 
to the motor.  Brushes bad?  Bearing seized? Motor burned out?  Squirrel 
nuts in the blower?


--FT

On 11/14/20 6:10 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:


Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch on
the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those fuses
can crack and look fine but not transfer current.

I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
they were removed -- and found it OK.

I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.

H ...


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be a step forward?

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Can't say that is the case here. Clipboard and stack of papers when you
check in is still the routine. You're always treated like someone
they've never encountered before.

One office had converted it to a web page that you could fill out from
your phone, but it was so laughably bad I asked for paper after about 5
minutes of struggling with it.

Allan

OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> I now no longer have to fill out complete histories, immunization records,
> medications, etc., etc., every time I'm referred to another doc - they all
> have the electronic record in front of them, and come into the room having
> already read it, knowing what the issue is.
>

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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 16:58:33 -0600 Peter Frederick via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch on
> the ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those fuses
> can crack and look fine but not transfer current.

I removed the strip fuse from its holder to see if it was OK -- I
remembered the stories of W123 glow plug fuses looking good until
they were removed -- and found it OK.

I pressed the defrost button, the high-speed button, and turned the
key so all the dash lights came on: Nothing.

H ...


Craig




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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

Set to defrost at high speed it should come on as soon as you switch on the 
ignition.  Check for voltage going to the fan though, those fuses can crack and 
look fine but not transfer current.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:23:46 -0500 Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Emergency surgery (within hours) repaired the damage but she
> died later that day.  The suddenness of her death stunned me.

I'm very sorry to hear of your loss, Scott. May the Lord draw you to
Himself and comfort you.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[archer75--- via Mercedes]

My deepest sympathies to you and your family, Scott, and thanks for the 
suggestions.
Gerry
 
> > On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> > was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> > after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> > ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> > showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> > part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> > (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> > suddenness of her death stunned me.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> > our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> > service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
> > of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
> > makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> > warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> > final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> > generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> > disagreement over funeral arrangements.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> > trusted local professional to execute my will.  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Scott
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

Craig.
FWIW.
The problems that I experienced were:
Intermittent ignition switch. Wiggling the switch would make the fan run.
Seized fan bearings. they can be freed but don't last all that long.
Porcupine died. (He smelled bad too!)
YMMV.
Fred.


On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 4:52 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The HVAC blower motor of our '93 300D/2.5 Turbo does not work. I checked
> the strip fuse in front of the fuse box and found it is good.
>
> Will the blower run before the engine is started? I brought the car into
> the Big Room because the wind is out of the west at 35 gusting to 45
> right now and I definitely do not want to start the engine with the car
> inside. That is, if I turn the key to the normal running position but do
> not turn it one step further to start the engine is the blower supposed
> be able to run?
>
> Beyond checking the strip fuse, does anyone have any experience
> troubleshooting inoperative blowers?
>
> Thank you,
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

So sorry to hear that Scott. My sincerest condolences.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> suddenness of her death stunned me.
> 
> 
> 
> I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
> of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
> makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
> 
> 
> 
> But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> disagreement over funeral arrangements.  
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> trusted local professional to execute my will.  
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

So saddened to learn of her passing.  Hard lesson to learn.  My parents did as 
your wife had many years ago.  Pretty much contactless process for those left 
to mourn.

Clay


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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

So sorry to hear about your wife's passing.  It's never fun.  My Mom is almost 
97, so it's only a matter of time.

I recommend talking to an estate attorney once you have things settled.  It is 
far better to have a trust set up than to go through probate, to say nothing of 
less expensive.  There are also advantages if you need home health care in the 
future.  A friend of mine had one heck of a time when her father passed away 
(an estate attorney who didn't set up his own) and got everything put the 
way she wanted it.  When she unexpectedly passed away 5 years ago everything 
went fine other than the fact that we all lost her.

Peter
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[MBZ] W124 HVAC blower motor

[Craig via Mercedes]

The HVAC blower motor of our '93 300D/2.5 Turbo does not work. I checked
the strip fuse in front of the fuse box and found it is good.

Will the blower run before the engine is started? I brought the car into
the Big Room because the wind is out of the west at 35 gusting to 45
right now and I definitely do not want to start the engine with the car
inside. That is, if I turn the key to the normal running position but do
not turn it one step further to start the engine is the blower supposed
be able to run?

Beyond checking the strip fuse, does anyone have any experience
troubleshooting inoperative blowers?

Thank you,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] [OT] GM recalling nearly 69,000 Bolt EVs for fire risks

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

https://thecanadian.news/2020/11/14/the-sale-of-gasoline-vehicles-banned-in-2035-in-quebec/
 


That will require a bunch of coal.  Or the construction of more nuke plants.  
And I seem to recall a few years back the grid failed and took out power across 
both Canada and US Atlantic coast.  

Clay


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> On Nov 13, 2020, at 4:05 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On the other hand, all my Diesel Mercedes are perfectly happy and present
> zero risk of self ignition when I fill the fuel tank all the way to the top.
> In fact, I can even let them set for months, un-attended, and self ignition
> never happens.
> 
> Since we live in a world that places high value on "green energy" the
> question is raised.
> "How many green energy miles do you have to drive to offset the pollution
> caused by a percentage of a particular electric car burning uncontrolled
> after self ignition?"
> 
> Asking for a friend.
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[MBZ] Diesel STRONG!!! Wow!! Power, Longevity, Luxury, and Safety rolled up into ONE Awesome Package!!!

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

 It looks pretty nice, that is probably a reasonable price to start
 dickering at


 *2014 Mercedes Benz GL350 Blutec *DIESEL Strong!!! Wow! Lw MILES!!
 - $22,887(Triad)

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/ctd/d/high-point-diesel-strong-wow-lw/7230831678.html

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepchinee plasticrap

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

yeah and you need to have a T45 socket driver in your go-kit as well.  I 
should probably pick up another set of those drivers from HF to keep in 
the toolkit I carry when I am driving, I generally keep the set I have 
in the big toolbox in the truck


I saved the old belt even though it is split a bit, I figure it might do 
in an emergency to get down the road a bit.


--FT

On 11/14/20 4:09 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That and it’s a really common part, too, and not terribly expensive. Sort of 
like keeping a brake light switch on the shelf.

-D


On Nov 14, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Yep, btdt. Probably a good idea to just replace it as soon as you get a car.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
 wrote:

So I was on my way home in the (now) $720 05ML500 and noticed the AC quit 
working and the steering was hard. $h1t. Battery light was on and the temp 
needle was climbing too. I was only like 3mi from home some got on home, temp 
did not get in red but it was up there close. The electric fan was getting a 
workout, glad the battery was good  It was sorta rainy and getting dark but I 
discerned the serpentine belt had let go.

Got a new one today to put on and noticed the little plastic idler pulley had 
lost one side ridge so basically the belt just walked off and ripped itself in 
two for about a foot or so.

I remembered I had a couple I had bought for the $500 99E300 so dug around and 
found them, exact same part. Yay me. Got that on, got the belt on (had to go 
look at the salvage 03E500 to see how it routed) and farred that mutha up, all 
was good.

That was my Benzing so far today. I think I’m going to crawl around under the 
front of it to see if I can tell what the clunk in the front axleS might be. 
The skeeters are vicious today though.

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

The tires are max inflation.
The door is what the vehicle manufacturer recommends.
The former should work fine, but make it ride a little hard.
Mitch.

On 2020-11-14 15:13, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:

On the new to me 2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.9 I got from my old
man, there are nice, new Michelins. On the tires it reads that they
should be inflated to 80psi. The sticker on the door reads 60psi
front, 70psi rear.
Who wins?


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Re: [MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

On the tires it reads that they should be inflated to 80psi. The sticker on the 
door reads 60psi front, 70psi rear. 
> Who wins?

Generally, the door sticker.  Unless it exceeds the tire maximum rating.
Because, that's what it is.  (But too little is also bad, duh.)

On my pickup, when carrying the camper, I run the rear tires up to 80.
The fronts, usually about 65.  Same for the rears when unloaded.  Are
they load range D, or E tires?  That matters, too.  If it says 80, they're
probably Es.  I'll never have Ds on my pickups again, after one catastrophic
tire failure.  (Tread peeled off like a cheap retread, which it was not.)
I learned a lot about tire ratings that day, and not to trust the tire store
to 'just do the right thing.'

Putting a 3000# camper into a 3/4 ton (1500#) truck is fairly common,
and means that you probably need tire-maximum pressure to carry
the load.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Max Dillon via Mercedes]

Thanks for sharing Scott, that is indeed two very valuable lessons.  I'm guilty 
of not writing these thing down and making these final wishes known, the 
reminder is appreciated.

Please accept my condolences for your loss,
Max Dillon
Charleston SC

Nov 14, 2020 3:24:35 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes :

> SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> suddenness of her death stunned me.
> 
> I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
> of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
> makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
> 
> But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> disagreement over funeral arrangements.
> 
> Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> trusted local professional to execute my will.
> 
> Scott
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[MBZ] Tire Inflation WTFs

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

On the new to me 2005 Dodge 2500 SLT Cummins 5.9 I got from my old man, there 
are nice, new Michelins. On the tires it reads that they should be inflated to 
80psi. The sticker on the door reads 60psi front, 70psi rear. 
Who wins?

Bob R

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Re: [MBZ] Cheepchinee plasticrap

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

That and it’s a really common part, too, and not terribly expensive. Sort of 
like keeping a brake light switch on the shelf.

-D

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 4:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep, btdt. Probably a good idea to just replace it as soon as you get a car. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So I was on my way home in the (now) $720 05ML500 and noticed the AC quit 
>> working and the steering was hard. $h1t. Battery light was on and the temp 
>> needle was climbing too. I was only like 3mi from home some got on home, 
>> temp did not get in red but it was up there close. The electric fan was 
>> getting a workout, glad the battery was good  It was sorta rainy and getting 
>> dark but I discerned the serpentine belt had let go. 
>> 
>> Got a new one today to put on and noticed the little plastic idler pulley 
>> had lost one side ridge so basically the belt just walked off and ripped 
>> itself in two for about a foot or so. 
>> 
>> I remembered I had a couple I had bought for the $500 99E300 so dug around 
>> and found them, exact same part. Yay me. Got that on, got the belt on (had 
>> to go look at the salvage 03E500 to see how it routed) and farred that mutha 
>> up, all was good. 
>> 
>> That was my Benzing so far today. I think I’m going to crawl around under 
>> the front of it to see if I can tell what the clunk in the front axleS might 
>> be. The skeeters are vicious today though. 
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Cheepchinee plasticrap

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, btdt. Probably a good idea to just replace it as soon as you get a car. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:49 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So I was on my way home in the (now) $720 05ML500 and noticed the AC quit 
> working and the steering was hard. $h1t. Battery light was on and the temp 
> needle was climbing too. I was only like 3mi from home some got on home, temp 
> did not get in red but it was up there close. The electric fan was getting a 
> workout, glad the battery was good  It was sorta rainy and getting dark but I 
> discerned the serpentine belt had let go. 
> 
> Got a new one today to put on and noticed the little plastic idler pulley had 
> lost one side ridge so basically the belt just walked off and ripped itself 
> in two for about a foot or so. 
> 
> I remembered I had a couple I had bought for the $500 99E300 so dug around 
> and found them, exact same part. Yay me. Got that on, got the belt on (had to 
> go look at the salvage 03E500 to see how it routed) and farred that mutha up, 
> all was good. 
> 
> That was my Benzing so far today. I think I’m going to crawl around under the 
> front of it to see if I can tell what the clunk in the front axleS might be. 
> The skeeters are vicious today though. 
> 
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Dang sorry to hear that. I have also leaned full well this week that life of 
fragile. Even to those of us who are healthy it can all change in an instant. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 2:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> suddenness of her death stunned me.
> 
> 
> 
> I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
> of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
> makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
> 
> 
> 
> But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> disagreement over funeral arrangements.  
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> trusted local professional to execute my will.  
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So sorry to hear about your wife, I’m sure it has been difficult for you losing 
her. 

On a related note, this same thing happened to one of my poodles a coupla years 
ago, blood flow to his esophagus was cut off when his stomach flipped and it 
necrotized very quickly. The docs were not able to save him even though I got 
him to them within a couple hours of noticing his behavior was off.  This is 
fairly common in standard poodles and some other large dog breeds but I had no 
idea It could happen to humans.  

Again so sorry for your loss and thanks for the excellent reminders. 

--FT
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> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:24 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  

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[MBZ] Cheepchinee plasticrap

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

So I was on my way home in the (now) $720 05ML500 and noticed the AC quit 
working and the steering was hard. $h1t. Battery light was on and the temp 
needle was climbing too. I was only like 3mi from home some got on home, temp 
did not get in red but it was up there close. The electric fan was getting a 
workout, glad the battery was good  It was sorta rainy and getting dark but I 
discerned the serpentine belt had let go. 

Got a new one today to put on and noticed the little plastic idler pulley had 
lost one side ridge so basically the belt just walked off and ripped itself in 
two for about a foot or so. 

I remembered I had a couple I had bought for the $500 99E300 so dug around and 
found them, exact same part. Yay me. Got that on, got the belt on (had to go 
look at the salvage 03E500 to see how it routed) and farred that mutha up, all 
was good. 

That was my Benzing so far today. I think I’m going to crawl around under the 
front of it to see if I can tell what the clunk in the front axleS might be. 
The skeeters are vicious today though. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’m so sorry to hear that, Scott. Please accept my condolences.

While it’s little consolation, it’s good to know things were set up in advance 
so as to minimize the hassle and confusion that often occurs when a loved one 
passes. It’s important to make sure the family knows your wishes in advance, as 
people often think a will takes care of this. It does not. Wills don’t come 
into play until well after one passes in most cases.

We both have very detailed instructions for what is to occur upon our passing. 
There are the legal things that our attorney has taken care of as well as more 
informal things we’ve written down and put in a place easily accessible to each 
other and our children. Once these are done it’s easy to maintain them should 
anything change.

We had a similar situation in a previous generation where a surviving sibling 
who was not included in their sister’s estate tied things up in court for 
several years and got almost nothing when it was all said and done. Ironically, 
they were a very successful business owner who had no need for the money - the 
only people who made out well in that situation were the probate attorneys.

-D

> On Nov 14, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> suddenness of her death stunned me.
> 
> 
> 
> I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
> of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
> makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
> 
> 
> 
> But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> disagreement over funeral arrangements.  
> 
> 
> 
> Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> trusted local professional to execute my will.  
> 
> 
> 
> Scott
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Re: [MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[OK Don via Mercedes]

So sorry that you learned that lesson.

On Sat, Nov 14, 2020 at 2:24 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
> was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
> after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
> ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
> showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow
> to
> part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
> (within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
> suddenness of her death stunned me.
>
>
>
> I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
> our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
> service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost
> all
> of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's
> will
> makes me executor which simplifies many things too.
>
>
>
> But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
> warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
> final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
> generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
> disagreement over funeral arrangements.
>
>
>
> Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
> trusted local professional to execute my will.
>
>
>
> Scott
>
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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] OT: A Life Lesson

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

SWMBO recently turned 90 (I'm a few years behind).  Except for A-Fib, she
was in generally good health but experienced nausea a few times a month
after dinner, which usually passed in a few hours or by morning.  Two weeks
ago she got sicker and sicker until she agreed to go to the ER.  A CT scan
showed her stomach had twisted and moved in a way that stopped blood flow to
part of her stomach; that tissue died and ruptured.  Emergency surgery
(within hours) repaired the damage but she died later that day.  The
suddenness of her death stunned me.

 

I learned a few things.  My wife's final wishes were well known (to me and
our children) and she wrote her complete eulogy, obituary, and memorial
service 10 years ago.  This made "first things" incredibly easy.  Almost all
of our assets have survivor rights or named beneficiaries and my wife's will
makes me executor which simplifies many things too.

 

But the lesson is that life is fragile.  The end can come suddenly with no
warning.  You will do your family a huge favor by making provisions for
final arrangements and financial management.  In my own family (a previous
generation) surviving siblings severed ties for life because of a
disagreement over funeral arrangements.  

 

Personally, I will now make pre-need final arrangements and also hire a
trusted local professional to execute my will.  

 

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to be a step forward?

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I now no longer have to fill out complete histories, immunization records,
medications, etc., etc., every time I'm referred to another doc - they all
have the electronic record in front of them, and come into the room having
already read it, knowing what the issue is.

On Fri, Nov 13, 2020 at 9:51 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Don't forget that the Obamacare electronic records requirement also drove
> small, independent doctors either out of business entirely (if they were
> close to retirement) or forced them to "team" with a big healthcare
> business.  A small operation can't afford a dedicated IT staff.  My
> dermatologist retired.  My cardiologist moved to another town and teamed
> with Rex.  My internist stayed put and teamed with Duke.  None of this
> stuff is free.  We (that's you and I) pay for it one way or another.
>
> On the plus side, I like to see my internist come into the exam room with
> his computer AND his paper patient folder.
>
>
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From:  Allan Streib
> > Subject: [MBZ] OT remember when electronic heath records were thought to
> > be a step forward?
> >
> > It's just a complete disaster.
> >
> > Paper has its drawbacks, but it can't be remotely exploited and rendered
> > unreadable or exposed to the world.
> >
> >
> https://healthitsecurity.com/news/security-threat-forces-hendrick-health-to-
> > ehr-downtime-procedures
> >
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