[MBZ] Clean 116

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1980 Mercedes Benz 300sd turbo diesel

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Re: [MBZ] Clean but expensive 300SE

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That's an auction price.

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Re: [MBZ] 1998 S420 Engine has a ticking sound that goes away after driving awhile

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Little to none, I suspect, with maybe some accelerated wear on the lifter faces 
and cam lobes. There’s not enough oil flowing at idle to overcome the lack of 
restriction when the end caps are blown out of the tubes, but once you get 
moving things are better. I wouldn’t leave it that way for an extended period, 
though.

I did a writeup of the job on my SL500 in the R129 forum on Benz World if you 
want to see what’s involved. It’s not a difficult job to do, and while you’re 
in there you can replace the timing chain upper guides, too, as they’re cheap 
and they have to come off anyway.

Here’s the old ham operator’s page covering the job:

https://www.k6jrf.com/MB_lifter.html 

He mentions replacing the breather tubes while you’re there, mainly because 
they’ll be hard as a rock and will break or shatter. The whole set of breather 
tubes are around $150 from the dealer, I think. I have a list of all the parts 
for my R129 and E420, but they may be a little different for your car.

-D

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What damage is expected assuming it's been running that way for a while?
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> You need to find a better source - I’ve seen complete sets *with* the new OE 
>> O rings for under $150. I’ve got a set on the shelf that I ultrasonically 
>> cleaned and installed new O rings on. I’m holding them in reserve for the 
>> E420 if it ever needs them or I feel like changing valve cover seals and 
>> have the engine open.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2020-11-18 14:48, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
 Run it with M1 oil for a while to clean the lifters?
>>> 
>>> Needs to have the valve oil feed tubes replaced, about $20 each times 16.
>>> Or you can find a set from one of the early engines that didn't have self 
>>> destructing plastic oil tubes (the end plug falls out because it was not 
>>> cast in one piece)
>>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-V8-16-PIECES-M119-OILER-Oil-TUBES-ALUMINUM-1191870087-OEM/153976240589
>>> Mitch.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

[G Mann via Mercedes]

 Don,
To answer your question about using the Harbor Freight pump to move
gasoline, or fuel.
I routinely use mine to pump diesel and gas at the ranch.
Obviously, you need to observe good safety while doing it with gas... with
diesel, not nearly as likely to touch off a fire, but still possible. ie,
don't spray fuel and atomize it, etc..
Wire the pump with a shut off switch that is non sparking and away from the
pumping area enough to be unlikely to trigger ignition, etc.. Devise a
method to keep the intake and discharge hoses in their respective
containers. etc.

The pump is rated at 290 gallons per hour, so it comfortably moves 4.8
gallons per minute. The body of the pump portion is stainless steel, the
pump uses nylon floating impellers [I ordered and bought spares 5 years
ago, still haven't needed them]

I like to use semi clear poly hose, with nylon braids in the structure. It
is a little stiffer than plain clear poly hose, which gets sucked flat on
the pickup side [not what you want to happen, it shuts off flow].  Semi
clear hose lets me see the fluid being pumped, so I know it's "working"

https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:04 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I wonder about pumping gasoline with it -- would there be a big bang and
> flames? I'm pumping 20 - 50 gallons of gas at a time by hand now. The
> little Facet pumps are too slow.
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM G Mann via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Some years ago, I solved the problem of oil in odd places with a small
> > electric 12 volt pump, a length of low voltage lighting wire and battery
> > clamps with a switch wired in at the pump.  I have used it to evacuate
> oil
> > and to refill both.
> > Totally makes it an easy job, and once you own one, it's painless.
> > Harbor Freight sells one that works nicely. Their price went up when they
> > started carrying a better quality pump, but still worth it as a "Keeper
> > tool". You will need to buy some plumbing fittings and a supply of
> > different size poly hose in bulk to make it truly versatile.
> >
> > https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it
> > > for siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this
> > one
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p
> > >
> > > I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said
> > >
> > > --FT
> > >
> > > On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > > Get one of these from Advance Auto:
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P
> > > >
> > > > Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A
> > little
> > > more tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as
> well
> > as
> > > the tall gear oil bottles.
> > > >
> > > > -D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be
> > > Dexron 3 or Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I
> > think,
> > > somewhere.  VML says nothing about Dexron specs
> > > >>
> > > >> I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.
> > > >>
> > > >> I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech
> > > had a cow inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about
> 2qt,
> > > filled that with the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.
> > > >>
> > > >> --FT
> > > >>
> > > >> On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > >>> Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use
> > Mobil
> > > 1 “multi vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that
> because
> > > there is a big difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original
> > > recommendation) and 236.14 (current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0
> > for
> > > 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the
> > > E320 4Matic and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets
> this
> > > spec.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> -D
> > > >>>
> > >  On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > >  I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and
> > > 211 E, looks like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I
> > suppose
> > > it is the same):
> > > 
> > >  Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90
> > > 
> > >  Front Axle SAE 90
> > > 
> > >  I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff,
> but
> > > no straight 90.  I guess I could find 

[MBZ] At least they were safe from Rona

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Re: [MBZ] 1998 S420 Engine has a ticking sound that goes away after driving awhile

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

What damage is expected assuming it's been running that way for a while?

Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> You need to find a better source - I’ve seen complete sets *with* the new OE 
> O rings for under $150. I’ve got a set on the shelf that I ultrasonically 
> cleaned and installed new O rings on. I’m holding them in reserve for the 
> E420 if it ever needs them or I feel like changing valve cover seals and have 
> the engine open.
>
> -D
>
>> On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-11-18 14:48, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Run it with M1 oil for a while to clean the lifters?
>> 
>> Needs to have the valve oil feed tubes replaced, about $20 each times 16.
>> Or you can find a set from one of the early engines that didn't have self 
>> destructing plastic oil tubes (the end plug falls out because it was not 
>> cast in one piece)
>> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-V8-16-PIECES-M119-OILER-Oil-TUBES-ALUMINUM-1191870087-OEM/153976240589
>> Mitch.
>> 

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[MBZ] Clean but expensive 300SE

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 When you're cleaning the bird you should have a pretty good idea if theres any 
shot holes. Then feel around in that area, they're usually pretty easy to 
find.I did find one steel bb in the fancy duck meal a few weeks ago. I didn't 
crunch down on it but could feel it rubbing on a tooth during one bite. I had 
to work it around a bit in my mouth to get the pellet out.
I've been really lucky with the pheasants I've been shooting, they've taken the 
bulk of the pellets in the head, makes it harder to take a nice picture but 
less destruction of meat.
-Curt

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 2:17:16 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Run a metal detector over it before cooking?

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I don't think that's much of a worry, but for the last 40 years steel 
> and possibly Bismuth shot might be an issue.
>
> On 2020-11-18 08:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>  Plus you had
>> to make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a
>> tooth.

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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 I've got a little battery pump that goes pretty fast. Its a stick with a hose 
coming out of it. The snowmobile shop near my house had one for emptying tanks 
on new machines, 5 gallons in less than a minute.I don't remember why I bought 
mine but its pretty handy. I got it at the hardware store.
-Curt

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 12:04:53 PM EST, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 I wonder about pumping gasoline with it -- would there be a big bang and
flames? I'm pumping 20 - 50 gallons of gas at a time by hand now. The
little Facet pumps are too slow.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Some years ago, I solved the problem of oil in odd places with a small
> electric 12 volt pump, a length of low voltage lighting wire and battery
> clamps with a switch wired in at the pump.  I have used it to evacuate oil
> and to refill both.
> Totally makes it an easy job, and once you own one, it's painless.
> Harbor Freight sells one that works nicely. Their price went up when they
> started carrying a better quality pump, but still worth it as a "Keeper
> tool". You will need to buy some plumbing fittings and a supply of
> different size poly hose in bulk to make it truly versatile.
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it
> > for siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this
> one
> >
> >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p
> >
> > I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Get one of these from Advance Auto:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P
> > >
> > > Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A
> little
> > more tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well
> as
> > the tall gear oil bottles.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be
> > Dexron 3 or Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I
> think,
> > somewhere.  VML says nothing about Dexron specs
> > >>
> > >> I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.
> > >>
> > >> I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech
> > had a cow inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt,
> > filled that with the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >>
> > >> On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use
> Mobil
> > 1 “multi vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because
> > there is a big difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original
> > recommendation) and 236.14 (current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0
> for
> > 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the
> > E320 4Matic and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this
> > spec.
> > >>>
> > >>> -D
> > >>>
> >  On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and
> > 211 E, looks like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I
> suppose
> > it is the same):
> > 
> >  Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90
> > 
> >  Front Axle SAE 90
> > 
> >  I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but
> > no straight 90.  I guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this
> stuff
> > costs but I wonder if the 75W90 would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff
> > on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for it.  I have a bottle or
> two
> > in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the purists say "use
> > the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the latter as
> > this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.
> > 
> >  The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14
> spec
> > transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs)
> so
> > I'm good on that.
> > 
> >  --
> >  --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The problem most people have with wild duck and goose is they try to cook it 
like chicken which results in tough, bad tasting meat.
If we look back at my fancy duck meal from a few weeks ago: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/ULVvaqJiu4Bq4xLL9 notice its just about medium, I was 
aiming for medium rare and overshot a little. It was tender and flavorful 
without that annoying liver flavor you get in over cooked duck.
I think most people that "don't like wild meat" really just don't know how to 
cook wild meat properly.The pheasant I shot Monday got cooked under high heat, 
more like a chicken, and although I did over cook it just a little it was still 
pretty good.

As an aside I went back out to the pheasant lands today. Its cold (just below 
freezing) and windy so I figured there wouldn't be many people out. Yesterday 
there were probably a dozen hunters with dogs. Anyway I took my 1890s vintage 
"King" double barrel muzzle loading 11ga shotgun and managed to bag a limit: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/eKMeWxx6XKcm54Ka9I loaded with 1 1/2oz of shot and 3 
drams of real black powder.

-Curt

On Wednesday, November 18, 2020, 9:38:18 AM EST, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 My FIL used to go to the Eastern Shore every winter and hunt canada 
geese (although I think it was more an excuse to get out with the boys 
for a few days and drink whisky).  He would bring home 6 or 8 cleaned 
and frozen.  MIL would marinate it for a coupla days and cook it up, he 
thought it was great but I found it was like eating an old shoe, tough 
dry and chewy and not particularly tasty.  He gave us one once, I 
brought it home and cooked it and it was pretty awful.  Plus you had to 
make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a tooth.

--FT

On 11/17/20 6:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>  Very tasty. We cooked the one I got last night for dinner last night. Its 
>hard to have fresher food than that.
> Angie told me I can bring as many of those home as I want.
> -Curt
>
>      On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 6:15:51 PM EST, Randy Bennell via 
>Mercedes  wrote:
>  
>  Yes, my thoughts too! Beautiful bird. (But probably rather tasty too,
> and if they put 40,000 out there is no real shortage)
>
> RB
>
> On 17/11/2020 5:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Mean, bird killer.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> The state of MA supposedly stocks 40,000 pheasants into the wild every 
>>> year. They publish an interactive map to show you where and how often (but 
>>> not which days) they stock. I figured this was my year to go get some.
>>> On the way home from deer camp I grabbed my grandfather's Remington model 
>>> 31 pump shotgun. Its a 16ga and I already had some shells (good because all 
>>> the ammunition is sold out) so I took it. I like carrying that gun, its 
>>> nice and light so its easy to keep ready.
>>> I'd been out once already early in the season but the spot I had picked was 
>>> crawling with hunters so this time I chose a less accessible spot. Pulled 
>>> up to park and there was a bird waiting in the road. This presents a 
>>> problem since that bird will probably fly before I get close enough. 
>>> Fortunately there was another, even stupider bird which hung around a 
>>> second too long.https://photos.app.goo.gl/kZ14QLryRDrLSabZ6
>>> There were at least 3 more birds, I should have gotten one of them but held 
>>> off for a better shot. I should know better and just take the shot that 
>>> presents itself. Its kind of amazing how they can disappear into the bush. 
>>> That one ran behind a tree and was just gone...
>>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 S420 Engine has a ticking sound that goes away after driving awhile

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

You need to find a better source - I’ve seen complete sets *with* the new OE O 
rings for under $150. I’ve got a set on the shelf that I ultrasonically cleaned 
and installed new O rings on. I’m holding them in reserve for the E420 if it 
ever needs them or I feel like changing valve cover seals and have the engine 
open.

-D

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 4:55 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-11-18 14:48, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Run it with M1 oil for a while to clean the lifters?
> 
> Needs to have the valve oil feed tubes replaced, about $20 each times 16.
> Or you can find a set from one of the early engines that didn't have self 
> destructing plastic oil tubes (the end plug falls out because it was not cast 
> in one piece)
> https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-V8-16-PIECES-M119-OILER-Oil-TUBES-ALUMINUM-1191870087-OEM/153976240589
> Mitch.
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 S420 Engine has a ticking sound that goes away after driving awhile

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-11-18 14:48, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Run it with M1 oil for a while to clean the lifters?


Needs to have the valve oil feed tubes replaced, about $20 each times 
16.
Or you can find a set from one of the early engines that didn't have 
self destructing plastic oil tubes (the end plug falls out because it 
was not cast in one piece)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-V8-16-PIECES-M119-OILER-Oil-TUBES-ALUMINUM-1191870087-OEM/153976240589
Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] 2002 Mercedes with an inspection. Don't forget this is a Mercedes

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Seller says it is Kelly Blue book price.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020, 11:06 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-11-18 10:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > 2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Sedan 4D
> > $1,483
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1077338752700135/
>
> How often are the cars with odd prices not scams (especially when the
> last two digits are under 50, which doesn't apply here)?
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Re: [MBZ] W201 Radio works and plays 105.5 Christmas music

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you have to use a tomato can or something real metal and some coat 
hanger wahr around the whole thing, maybe some duct tape to hold it, and 
yer good ta go.  hose clamps are good but they also cost money unless 
you can salvage some off an old junker


--FT

On 11/18/20 3:07 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Wonder if you could just wrap a beer can around it with some hose clamps
to get home, if you don't like attention? Probably need some zip ties or
coat hanger wire to hang the tailpipe back up also...

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:


Muffler broke off right at the base (pictured). Needs to be reattached
unless you like attention

Looks like a good $800 winter beater

--FT

On 11/18/20 2:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmore-mercedes-190e-w201/7232741383.html

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Re: [MBZ] W201 Radio works and plays 105.5 Christmas music

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Wonder if you could just wrap a beer can around it with some hose clamps
to get home, if you don't like attention? Probably need some zip ties or
coat hanger wire to hang the tailpipe back up also...

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> Muffler broke off right at the base (pictured). Needs to be reattached 
> unless you like attention
>
> Looks like a good $800 winter beater
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/18/20 2:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmore-mercedes-190e-w201/7232741383.html
>>
>> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Saab high-miler $300

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My model 99 EMS had constant problems with that switch. That, along with
the rear shock towers rusting out were awful problems with that otherwise
wonderful car.

Greg

> That would be an awesome beater, you should snag it
>
> I had this girlfriend for awhile who had some kind of old Saab, it was
> pretty clapped out.  I was with her somewhere in it, we got in the car
> and she went to start it and the ignition switch (which was mounted down
> on the console behind the shifter, or somewhere in there, falls out of
> its hole taking the key with it.  The whole area was pretty rusted out
> so it just let go.  I crawled down under the car and managed to push it
> back up through the hole and she tied something onto it to hold it up
> there.  You had to use both hands to hold it and turn the key but the
> switch still worked.  It stayed that way until she unloaded it to some
> fool in Cambridge.  Totally stoopit idea putting that switch there where
> all kinds of crap fell into it from the top and road crap hit it from
> below.
>
> --FT
>
>
> On 11/18/20 2:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1990-saab-turbo-convertible/7233010569.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] W201 Radio works and plays 105.5 Christmas music

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Muffler broke off right at the base (pictured). Needs to be reattached 
unless you like attention


Looks like a good $800 winter beater

--FT

On 11/18/20 2:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmore-mercedes-190e-w201/7232741383.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT Saab high-miler $300

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That would be an awesome beater, you should snag it

I had this girlfriend for awhile who had some kind of old Saab, it was 
pretty clapped out.  I was with her somewhere in it, we got in the car 
and she went to start it and the ignition switch (which was mounted down 
on the console behind the shifter, or somewhere in there, falls out of 
its hole taking the key with it.  The whole area was pretty rusted out 
so it just let go.  I crawled down under the car and managed to push it 
back up through the hole and she tied something onto it to hold it up 
there.  You had to use both hands to hold it and turn the key but the 
switch still worked.  It stayed that way until she unloaded it to some 
fool in Cambridge.  Totally stoopit idea putting that switch there where 
all kinds of crap fell into it from the top and road crap hit it from below.


--FT


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[MBZ] 1998 S420 Engine has a ticking sound that goes away after driving awhile

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Run it with M1 oil for a while to clean the lifters?

"Check engine light is on because of these issues."

No, probably not, unless it has a oil change interval timer?

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-mercedes-benz/7232661566.html

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[MBZ] W201 Radio works and plays 105.5 Christmas music

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https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/wilmore-mercedes-190e-w201/7232741383.html

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[MBZ] OT Saab high-miler $300

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https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbus-1990-saab-turbo-convertible/7233010569.html


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Switch to Tofurkey.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 2:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Run a metal detector over it before cooking?
>
> Allan
>
> Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:
>
> > I don't think that's much of a worry, but for the last 40 years steel
> > and possibly Bismuth shot might be an issue.
> >
> > On 2020-11-18 08:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >>  Plus you had
> >> to make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a
> >> tooth.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

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Run a metal detector over it before cooking?

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> I don't think that's much of a worry, but for the last 40 years steel 
> and possibly Bismuth shot might be an issue.
>
> On 2020-11-18 08:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>  Plus you had
>> to make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a
>> tooth.

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Re: [MBZ] look at pic 142

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Has even more expensive bells and whistles than the 600 Grand Mercedes from
1966-72.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 1:03 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:37:12 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3znxv2pj/2007-mercedes-benz-s600
>
> Two $1400 coil packs and $500 to replace them ...
>
>
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] 2009 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 320 BLUETEC Sport Utility 4D, $5, 500

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Priced to sell fast.  Don't blink or you'll miss out.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:50 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Looks pretty nice, low price
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/819201825315047/?ref=search_code=undefined
>
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Re: [MBZ] look at pic 142

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On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:37:12 -0500 Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
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> https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3znxv2pj/2007-mercedes-benz-s600

Two $1400 coil packs and $500 to replace them ...


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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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If you had a fleet and were going to be doing it often, get a garden pump 
sprayer and cut the spray head off (or not).

https://www.homedepot.com/b/Outdoors-Garden-Center-Sprayers-Pump-Sprayers/N-5yc1vZ2fkoqg6


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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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Talked to people who have, and they suggest that it’s no better than a bottle.

I like my little pump.

-D

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 10:46 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Ever try the Amsoil EZ Pack baggies?
> https://www.amsoil.com/p/severe-gear-75w-90-svg/
> 
> On 2020-11-18 08:59, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> This pump, like the cow inseminator, end up being messy as heck. You
>> end up with all sorts of leftover fluid in it and fighting the hoses
>> on both ends.
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Re: [MBZ] look at pic 142

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3 hours labor for R coil packs?
And they use a 400CCA 67R battery, not the 49/93/H8 behemoths we're 
accustomed to?



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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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On 2020-11-18 11:03, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
I wonder about pumping gasoline with it -- would there be a big bang 
and

flames? I'm pumping 20 - 50 gallons of gas at a time by hand now. The
little Facet pumps are too slow.


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I wonder about pumping gasoline with it -- would there be a big bang and
flames? I'm pumping 20 - 50 gallons of gas at a time by hand now. The
little Facet pumps are too slow.

On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 10:32 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Some years ago, I solved the problem of oil in odd places with a small
> electric 12 volt pump, a length of low voltage lighting wire and battery
> clamps with a switch wired in at the pump.  I have used it to evacuate oil
> and to refill both.
> Totally makes it an easy job, and once you own one, it's painless.
> Harbor Freight sells one that works nicely. Their price went up when they
> started carrying a better quality pump, but still worth it as a "Keeper
> tool". You will need to buy some plumbing fittings and a supply of
> different size poly hose in bulk to make it truly versatile.
>
> https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it
> > for siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this
> one
> >
> >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p
> >
> > I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > > Get one of these from Advance Auto:
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P
> > >
> > > Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A
> little
> > more tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well
> as
> > the tall gear oil bottles.
> > >
> > > -D
> > >
> > >
> > >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be
> > Dexron 3 or Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I
> think,
> > somewhere.  VML says nothing about Dexron specs
> > >>
> > >> I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.
> > >>
> > >> I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech
> > had a cow inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt,
> > filled that with the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.
> > >>
> > >> --FT
> > >>
> > >> On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > >>> Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use
> Mobil
> > 1 “multi vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because
> > there is a big difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original
> > recommendation) and 236.14 (current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0
> for
> > 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.
> > >>>
> > >>> I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the
> > E320 4Matic and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this
> > spec.
> > >>>
> > >>> -D
> > >>>
> >  On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > 
> >  I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and
> > 211 E, looks like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I
> suppose
> > it is the same):
> > 
> >  Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90
> > 
> >  Front Axle SAE 90
> > 
> >  I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but
> > no straight 90.  I guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this
> stuff
> > costs but I wonder if the 75W90 would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff
> > on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for it.  I have a bottle or
> two
> > in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the purists say "use
> > the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the latter as
> > this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.
> > 
> >  The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14
> spec
> > transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs)
> so
> > I'm good on that.
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] look at pic 142

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I think those are singles, and there is a guy in Kollyfawnya who will 
rebuild them for a reasonable price.  My 95 V12 has the whole assembly 
-- I don't even want to know.


--FT

On 11/18/20 11:41 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Coil packs on these V12s are notoriously expensive, as they’re an “all in one” 
setup where if one goes you have to replace the whole assembly that consists of 
six coil packs.

-D


On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3znxv2pj/2007-mercedes-benz-s600

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Re: [MBZ] look at pic 142

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Coil packs on these V12s are notoriously expensive, as they’re an “all in one” 
setup where if one goes you have to replace the whole assembly that consists of 
six coil packs.

-D

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 11:37 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://carsandbids.com/auctions/3znxv2pj/2007-mercedes-benz-s600
> 
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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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Some years ago, I solved the problem of oil in odd places with a small
electric 12 volt pump, a length of low voltage lighting wire and battery
clamps with a switch wired in at the pump.  I have used it to evacuate oil
and to refill both.
Totally makes it an easy job, and once you own one, it's painless.
Harbor Freight sells one that works nicely. Their price went up when they
started carrying a better quality pump, but still worth it as a "Keeper
tool". You will need to buy some plumbing fittings and a supply of
different size poly hose in bulk to make it truly versatile.

https://www.harborfreight.com/12v-dc-transfer-pump-290-gph-63324.html



On Wed, Nov 18, 2020 at 7:42 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it
> for siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this one
>
>
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p
>
> I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said
>
> --FT
>
> On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> > Get one of these from Advance Auto:
> >
> >
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P
> >
> > Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A little
> more tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well as
> the tall gear oil bottles.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be
> Dexron 3 or Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I think,
> somewhere.  VML says nothing about Dexron specs
> >>
> >> I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.
> >>
> >> I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech
> had a cow inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt,
> filled that with the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >> On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use Mobil
> 1 “multi vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because
> there is a big difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original
> recommendation) and 236.14 (current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0 for
> 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.
> >>>
> >>> I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the
> E320 4Matic and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this
> spec.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and
> 211 E, looks like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I suppose
> it is the same):
> 
>  Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90
> 
>  Front Axle SAE 90
> 
>  I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but
> no straight 90.  I guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this stuff
> costs but I wonder if the 75W90 would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff
> on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for it.  I have a bottle or two
> in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the purists say "use
> the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the latter as
> this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.
> 
>  The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14 spec
> transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs) so
> I'm good on that.
> 
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[MBZ] 1983 240D 4 speed ,$1000obo

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some rust and needs a fuel tank cleaning but cheap price

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Re: [MBZ] 2002 Mercedes with an inspection. Don't forget this is a Mercedes

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On 2020-11-18 10:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Sedan 4D
$1,483
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1077338752700135/


How often are the cars with odd prices not scams (especially when the 
last two digits are under 50, which doesn't apply here)?


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[MBZ] 1973 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 400 E Sedan 4D,$9,800

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This looks really nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/204592607742926/?ref=search_code=undefined

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[MBZ] 2002 Mercedes with an inspection. Don't forget this is a Mercedes

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2002 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 AWD Sedan 4D
$1,483
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1077338752700135/

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[MBZ] 2009 Mercedes-Benz M-Class ML 320 BLUETEC Sport Utility 4D, $5, 500

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Looks pretty nice, low price

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

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I don't think that's much of a worry, but for the last 40 years steel 
and possibly Bismuth shot might be an issue.


On 2020-11-18 08:37, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

 Plus you had
to make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a
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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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Ever try the Amsoil EZ Pack baggies?
https://www.amsoil.com/p/severe-gear-75w-90-svg/

On 2020-11-18 08:59, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This pump, like the cow inseminator, end up being messy as heck. You
end up with all sorts of leftover fluid in it and fighting the hoses
on both ends.


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Re: [MBZ] Shady G-wagen $20k

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On 2020-11-18 09:02, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-wagon-for-sale/7232641530.html


That 'carbon fiber' trim isn't original, is it?

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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

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OK good advice, and it looks like a one-hander too which is good for 
using the other hand to hold the magaz... er hose


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On 11/18/20 9:59 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

This pump, like the cow inseminator, end up being messy as heck. You end up 
with all sorts of leftover fluid in it and fighting the hoses on both ends. 
I’ve used the cow inseminator pump for doing differentials for years, and it’s 
always a mess despite being able to fill a differential in about three uses due 
to the volume it can handle. When I went to the little pump that screws on the 
container it was so, so much easier, especially from a mess standpoint. Yes, 
it’s more labor as far as pumping, but it’s amazingly mess free.

-D


On Nov 18, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it for 
siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this one

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p

I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said

--FT

On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Get one of these from Advance Auto:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P

Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A little more 
tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well as the tall 
gear oil bottles.

-D



On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be Dexron 3 or 
Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I think, somewhere.  VML 
says nothing about Dexron specs

I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.

I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech had a cow 
inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt, filled that with 
the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.

--FT

On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use Mobil 1 “multi 
vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because there is a big 
difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original recommendation) and 236.14 
(current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0 for 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.

I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the E320 4Matic 
and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this spec.

-D


On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and 211 E, looks 
like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I suppose it is the same):

Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90

Front Axle SAE 90

I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but no straight 90.  I 
guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this stuff costs but I wonder if the 75W90 
would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for 
it.  I have a bottle or two in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the 
purists say "use the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the 
latter as this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.

The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14 spec 
transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs) so I'm 
good on that.

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[MBZ] Shady G-wagen $20k

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https://savannah.craigslist.org/cto/d/savannah-wagon-for-sale/7232641530.html

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[MBZ] Feel free to call, shoot the sh*t and ask questions, but dont try and lowball me

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A white whale for Max's dizzel engine transplant

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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

This pump, like the cow inseminator, end up being messy as heck. You end up 
with all sorts of leftover fluid in it and fighting the hoses on both ends. 
I’ve used the cow inseminator pump for doing differentials for years, and it’s 
always a mess despite being able to fill a differential in about three uses due 
to the volume it can handle. When I went to the little pump that screws on the 
container it was so, so much easier, especially from a mess standpoint. Yes, 
it’s more labor as far as pumping, but it’s amazingly mess free.

-D

> On Nov 18, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it for 
> siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this one
> 
> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p
> 
> I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Get one of these from Advance Auto:
>> 
>> https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P
>> 
>> Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A little 
>> more tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well as 
>> the tall gear oil bottles.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be Dexron 3 
>>> or Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I think, 
>>> somewhere.  VML says nothing about Dexron specs
>>> 
>>> I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.
>>> 
>>> I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech had a 
>>> cow inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt, filled 
>>> that with the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
>>> On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use Mobil 1 
 “multi vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because 
 there is a big difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original 
 recommendation) and 236.14 (current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0 
 for 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.
 
 I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the E320 
 4Matic and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this spec.
 
 -D
 
> On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and 211 E, 
> looks like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I suppose it 
> is the same):
> 
> Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90
> 
> Front Axle SAE 90
> 
> I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but no 
> straight 90.  I guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this stuff 
> costs but I wonder if the 75W90 would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff 
> on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for it.  I have a bottle or 
> two in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the purists say 
> "use the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the latter 
> as this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.
> 
> The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14 spec 
> transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs) 
> so I'm good on that.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] front/rear axle gear lubes

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

good idea.  I have a little hand pump in the garage, I think I got it 
for siphoning gas but I bet it would work for this too, it's like this one


https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-multi-use-pump-w1145/7071094-p

I'll give it a try and if not will get one of the pumps you said

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On 11/17/20 7:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Get one of these from Advance Auto:

https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/p/performance-tool-fluid-oil-pump-w1139/9016678-P

Far easier to use and much less messy than the cow inseminator. A little more 
tedious, but works great and fits regular quart oil bottles as well as the tall 
gear oil bottles.

-D



On Nov 17, 2020, at 1:40 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

Thanks, the ML manual says the transfer case for the ML should be Dexron 3 or 
Dexron 2E, I saw the 236 specs in some Benzworld post I think, somewhere.  VML 
says nothing about Dexron specs

I have some M1 ATF around I think, only needs 1.5L.

I watched this Hoovie vid about changing fluids on his SLS, the mech had a cow 
inseminator, a big syringe looks like it would hold about 2qt, filled that with 
the fluid and had an adapter to pump it into the box.

--FT

On 11/17/20 1:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Both differentials would be Mobil 1 75W-90 gear oil. I would use Mobil 1 “multi 
vehicle” synthetic ATF in the transfer case. I say that because there is a big 
difference in viscosity between 236.10 (original recommendation) and 236.14 
(current ATF spec). It’s a difference of 7.0 for 236.14 and 8.5 with 236.10.

I’ve been looking at this closely, as I’m changing the fluid in the E320 4Matic 
and the spec called out is 236.10. The Mobil 1 ATF meets this spec.

-D


On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I am going to change the lubes in the axle diffs on the 163 ML and 211 E, looks 
like MB specify for the ML (I did not look up the E, I suppose it is the same):

Rear Axle SAE 90, 85W90

Front Axle SAE 90

I see 75W90 (Mobil1 Synth, etc.) and 80W90 and some other stuff, but no straight 90.  I 
guess I could find some MB fluid for 3X what this stuff costs but I wonder if the 75W90 
would be OK.  I put that in the rear diff on the 210 E300, I think that was the spec for 
it.  I have a bottle or two in the garage, I can buy more easy enough.  Some of the 
purists say "use the MB fluid!" and others say it is fine, I am leaning to the 
latter as this stuff is probably better than whatever was specced out 15 yr ago.

The transfer case uses the same transmission fluid (well, 236.14 spec 
transmission, 236.10 transfer case, Valvoline MaxLife meets both specs) so I'm 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Pheasant

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

My FIL used to go to the Eastern Shore every winter and hunt canada 
geese (although I think it was more an excuse to get out with the boys 
for a few days and drink whisky).  He would bring home 6 or 8 cleaned 
and frozen.  MIL would marinate it for a coupla days and cook it up, he 
thought it was great but I found it was like eating an old shoe, tough 
dry and chewy and not particularly tasty.  He gave us one once, I 
brought it home and cooked it and it was pretty awful.  Plus you had to 
make sure not to crunch down on a piece of lead shot and break a tooth.


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On 11/17/20 6:41 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

  Very tasty. We cooked the one I got last night for dinner last night. Its 
hard to have fresher food than that.
Angie told me I can bring as many of those home as I want.
-Curt

 On Tuesday, November 17, 2020, 6:15:51 PM EST, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote:
  
  Yes, my thoughts too! Beautiful bird. (But probably rather tasty too,

and if they put 40,000 out there is no real shortage)

RB

On 17/11/2020 5:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Mean, bird killer.

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 17, 2020, at 12:32 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

The state of MA supposedly stocks 40,000 pheasants into the wild every year. 
They publish an interactive map to show you where and how often (but not which 
days) they stock. I figured this was my year to go get some.
On the way home from deer camp I grabbed my grandfather's Remington model 31 
pump shotgun. Its a 16ga and I already had some shells (good because all the 
ammunition is sold out) so I took it. I like carrying that gun, its nice and 
light so its easy to keep ready.
I'd been out once already early in the season but the spot I had picked was 
crawling with hunters so this time I chose a less accessible spot. Pulled up to 
park and there was a bird waiting in the road. This presents a problem since 
that bird will probably fly before I get close enough. Fortunately there was 
another, even stupider bird which hung around a second too 
long.https://photos.app.goo.gl/kZ14QLryRDrLSabZ6
There were at least 3 more birds, I should have gotten one of them but held off 
for a better shot. I should know better and just take the shot that presents 
itself. Its kind of amazing how they can disappear into the bush. That one ran 
behind a tree and was just gone...
-Curt
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