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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

An addadicktome is expensive. 

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> On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:30 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You mean the increase in costs from your policyholders being unable to get 
> medical attention because your governor doesn't want you to see a doctor (or 
> waitress, or anybody else)?
> 
> I had a 'phone consultation' back in May, and resolved never to seek medical 
> attention under those conditions again.
> 
> Mitch.
> 
>> On 2020-11-20 18:31, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> Both of our employers have ditched increases this year and said we
>> should be happy because they’re going to absorb the increase in
>> insurance costs. Whatever.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 280CE Euro W123

2020-11-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Holy cow is that a basket case! A shame.

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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

What freaks me out is medicare. I'll be 65 in a few years (2024) and I suspect 
medicare will have collapsed upon itself by then. Guess between vacations, paid 
days off, FMLA and whatever else I can come up with, I'll just keep working for 
the insurance.


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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 280CE Euro W123

2020-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Very rare, but hardly desirable.

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[MBZ] 1979 300 CD - $8,000

2020-11-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

Low miles and looks clean. Euro lights too.

https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/miamisburg-1979-mercedes-benz-300-cd/7234040217.html

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[MBZ] Fwd: Mercedes 280CE Euro W123

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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes

My premium is over $800 per month!

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> On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:45 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Mine is going up about $100 per month this year.  I will be paying close to 
> $500 a month and still have a $2000/$4000 deductible with $4/$8k out of 
> pocket max for the year.
> 
>> On 11/20/2020 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> They cover a lot of weird stuff because they have to.
>> 
>> The really lousing thing is the way they screw you in the fine print. Our 
>> latest one has been that prescriptions don’t count toward your maximum out 
>> of pocket. So that means you can go to the hospital and rack up a bill and 
>> most of it’s paid - but you’re still on the hook for whatever isn’t covered 
>> for the prescriptions. Think about how many drugs they give someone during a 
>> hospital stay.
>> 
>> Both of our employers have ditched increases this year and said we should be 
>> happy because they’re going to absorb the increase in insurance costs. 
>> Whatever.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Due to recent medial issues I have been reading all the fine print of my 
>>> employer medial plan.  They cover gender reassignment surgery.  You have to 
>>> be kidding me.  I guess since my out of pocket has been met for the year, 
>>> now is my chance to become a woman for free.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] It runs but has sat in a garage for approx. 15 years so just needs some bugs worked out.

2020-11-20 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes

>> Nice!  I'm jealous of the body, not jealous of the frequent valve
>> adjustments, done on your back.

Yeah I remember it well. Also necessary on my OM617s but not quite as 
frequently.

>> Really glad to see it bought by someone who cares!

Always fun to have a new project!

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes



You mean the increase in costs from your policyholders being unable to 
get medical attention because your governor doesn't want you to see a 
doctor (or waitress, or anybody else)?


I had a 'phone consultation' back in May, and resolved never to seek 
medical attention under those conditions again.


Mitch.

On 2020-11-20 18:31, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:



Both of our employers have ditched increases this year and said we
should be happy because they’re going to absorb the increase in
insurance costs. Whatever.



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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On 2020-11-20 18:23, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Due to recent medial issues I have been reading all the fine print of
my employer medial plan.  They cover gender reassignment surgery.  You
have to be kidding me.  I guess since my out of pocket has been met
for the year, now is my chance to become a woman for free.


I thought that San Francisco was unique in that 20-30 years ago.
Haven't thought about it lately.
Have a relative who moved out of state, severed all ties to live as a 
man among people who had no idea who she was, and spent a fortune on a 
female to male conversion (it's apparently way more expensive to make a 
penis than to remove one). Couldn't figure out why (s)he didn't move to 
SanFran and apply for a municipal job, since (s)he was leaving the state 
anyway.
I'd gladly ride the back of a San Francisco garbage truck if it meant 
not paying for all those operations.


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[MBZ] Test

2020-11-20 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes

Yeah. Fail.


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Re: [MBZ] It runs but has sat in a garage for approx. 15 years so just needs some bugs worked out.

2020-11-20 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes

Second try...

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


Nov 20, 2020 1:03:39 PM Max Dillon :

> Nice!  I'm jealous of the body, not jealous of the frequent valve 
> adjustments, done on your back.
> 
> Really glad to see it bought by someone who cares!
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> Nov 19, 2020 10:47:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes :
> 
>> Well I went and looked at this today, and bought it.
>> 
>> It's really solid, no rust anywhere that I could find, looked at bottom
>> of doors, all around the base of the car and underneath fenders and
>> underside. The paint is not perfect, some crazing and a few cracks and
>> chips here and there. Everything is there trim-wise and lighting.
>> 
>> Engine and transmission rebuild/replacement is all documented, work done
>> by Buggy Works in Martinsville which has been there since I was a kid so
>> I assume they know what they are doing.
>> 
>> Disc brakes front and rear with new calipers.
>> 
>> Under the rear lid, engine fitted with dual carbs, electronic ignition,
>> and an oil cooler with a spin-on filter. New air shrouding all
>> around. Battery relocated to the rear also. Engine starts right up but
>> splutters a little when you hit the throttle. Guessing the carbs need
>> cleaning after sitting for 15 years. The owner did recently drain the
>> gas tank and get fresh fuel.
>> 
>> Under the front lid, a new gas tank. Missing the spare tire though,
>> which I will need to find since I think the weight of it is important
>> for proper handling. Crazy spaghetti mess of wiring behind the dash
>> which I will need to clean up.
>> 
>> Interior is a little rougher. Floor covering is rubber and has become
>> brittle. It was cracking and falling apart as I tried to pull it
>> up. Plan is to clean that out, paint the floor pan with POR-15, dynamat
>> it, and install a period correct carpet set which I assume can be
>> sourced somewhere. Will also want to look for new weatherstripping for
>> the doors. Window rubber looks OK.
>> 
>> The vinyl upholstery on the passenger door has a tear. The driver's door
>> upholstery backing board is warped and will need to be replaced. Drivers
>> seat has a small tear on the side.
>> 
>> The dash is wood, not sure if original or someone put that in. In any
>> case the finish is totally gone and will need to be redone. Cheap
>> aftermarket radio which I'll try to replace with something either better
>> or closer to original.
>> 
>> All in all I'm pretty pleased. Back in the air-cooled world after 30-odd
>> years.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
>> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
>> 
>>> Bloomfield - very rural.
>>> 
>>> Looks like a really nice deal if the underside is clean.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Non-MB, but German. And Italian I guess.
 
 Honestly if it's not rusty, there's not much else to worry about. Engine
 is like a big lawn mower. Very simple.
 
 https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomfield-1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/7232441404.html
 
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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Mine is going up about $100 per month this year.  I will be paying close 
to $500 a month and still have a $2000/$4000 deductible with $4/$8k out 
of pocket max for the year.


On 11/20/2020 6:31 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

They cover a lot of weird stuff because they have to.

The really lousing thing is the way they screw you in the fine print. Our 
latest one has been that prescriptions don’t count toward your maximum out of 
pocket. So that means you can go to the hospital and rack up a bill and most of 
it’s paid - but you’re still on the hook for whatever isn’t covered for the 
prescriptions. Think about how many drugs they give someone during a hospital 
stay.

Both of our employers have ditched increases this year and said we should be 
happy because they’re going to absorb the increase in insurance costs. Whatever.

-D


On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:

Due to recent medial issues I have been reading all the fine print of my 
employer medial plan.  They cover gender reassignment surgery.  You have to be 
kidding me.  I guess since my out of pocket has been met for the year, now is 
my chance to become a woman for free.


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Re: [MBZ] test

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On 2020-11-20 18:05, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

Did I fail?


Yep.
I thought I was blocked from posting, then realized I hadn't gotten any 
messages from any list since this morning.


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Re: [MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

They cover a lot of weird stuff because they have to.

The really lousing thing is the way they screw you in the fine print. Our 
latest one has been that prescriptions don’t count toward your maximum out of 
pocket. So that means you can go to the hospital and rack up a bill and most of 
it’s paid - but you’re still on the hook for whatever isn’t covered for the 
prescriptions. Think about how many drugs they give someone during a hospital 
stay.

Both of our employers have ditched increases this year and said we should be 
happy because they’re going to absorb the increase in insurance costs. Whatever.

-D

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Due to recent medial issues I have been reading all the fine print of my 
> employer medial plan.  They cover gender reassignment surgery.  You have to 
> be kidding me.  I guess since my out of pocket has been met for the year, now 
> is my chance to become a woman for free.
> 
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[MBZ] Why insurance costs so much

2020-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

Due to recent medial issues I have been reading all the fine print of my 
employer medial plan.  They cover gender reassignment surgery.  You have 
to be kidding me.  I guess since my out of pocket has been met for the 
year, now is my chance to become a woman for free.



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Re: [MBZ] test

2020-11-20 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes

Maybe an electron clot?


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> On Nov 20, 2020, at 5:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> No idea, whatever it was they finally fixed it.
> 
>> On 11/20/2020 6:09 PM, Craig wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:05:53 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>> Did I fail?
>> Yup.
>> 
>> What was wrong?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Craig
>> 
>> --
>> Present: '93 E300D/2.5 Turbo   354 kmi
>>  '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville   230 kmi
>>  (the Big Red Van, BRV)
>>  '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi
>> 
>>Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
>>  '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
>>  '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
>>  '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
>>  '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
>>  '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
>>  '86 190E/2.3
>>  '72 220/8
>>  '61 Willys Utility Wagon
>>  '59 Willys Utility Wagon
>>  '67 Volkswagen Fastback
>>  '64 190Dc  Emma
>>  '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
>>  '69 Lotus Europa
>>  '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
>>  '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce
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Re: [MBZ] test

2020-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes


No idea, whatever it was they finally fixed it.

On 11/20/2020 6:09 PM, Craig wrote:

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:05:53 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:


Did I fail?

Yup.

What was wrong?




Craig

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  '89 Chevrolet G20 Beauville   230 kmi
  (the Big Red Van, BRV)
  '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
  '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
  '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
  '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
  '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
  '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
  '86 190E/2.3
  '72 220/8
  '61 Willys Utility Wagon
  '59 Willys Utility Wagon
  '67 Volkswagen Fastback
  '64 190Dc  Emma
  '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
  '69 Lotus Europa
  '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
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Re: [MBZ] test

2020-11-20 Thread Craig via Mercedes

On Fri, 20 Nov 2020 18:05:53 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
 wrote:

> Did I fail?

Yup.

What was wrong?




Craig

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 '00 Kenworth W900  Helmut 943 kmi

   Past: '90 E300D/2.5 Turbo   265 kmi   RIP
 '07 Peterbilt 386  Bruno  885 kmi
 '95 E320   Sebastian  135 kmi   RIP
 '94 E420   Oskar  127 kmi   RIP
 '82 240D/3.0   Bluebell   286 kmi
 '87 Dodge Grand Caravan RIP
 '86 190E/2.3
 '72 220/8
 '61 Willys Utility Wagon
 '59 Willys Utility Wagon
 '67 Volkswagen Fastback
 '64 190Dc  Emma
 '72 220D/8 Herman 186 kmi
 '69 Lotus Europa
 '64 Alfa Romeo Turrisimo Internationale
 '59 Alfa Romeo Giulietta Spyder Veloce

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[MBZ] test

2020-11-20 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes


Did I fail?


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Re: [MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

The 500 is pretty stout, I wonder what issues it has. Probably rather 
neglected with 200kmi, random issues.  It would be a good hauler if it 
actually runs and is not a total POS.  Rip out all those seats and just 
make it a utility vehicle, roomier than a ML.


I'm getting around 17mpg in mixed driving in the ML500, which is not 
entirely bad.  I would guess this thing would be similar


--FT

On 11/20/20 10:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On 2020-11-20 09:00, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)

Translation:  It's a POS

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html 



If you gotta drive a $1500 POS and you don't mind buying gasoline, why 
not?


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Re: [MBZ] This car was purchased for pleasure only. (i.e., crack smoking)

2020-11-20 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes

Looks bad.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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> On 2020-11-19 13:23, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > did you look at the pics?
>
> No, so didn't see the driver's side damage.
> That's a $600-1000 car.
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Re: [MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Sadly, amany otherwise intelligent folks swear by them due to their
practicality and family friendly qualities.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 11:13 AM Floyd Thursby 
wrote:

> but you can't cherish an Odyssey, it is merely an object of passing desire
> that soon fades, the brand is not strong
>
> --FT
> On 11/20/20 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>
> Makes an Odyssey look almost svelte.
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>   2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)
>>
>> Translation:  It's a POS
>>
>>
>> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On 2020-11-20 09:00, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)

Translation:  It's a POS

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html


If you gotta drive a $1500 POS and you don't mind buying gasoline, why 
not?


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Re: [MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

but you can't cherish an Odyssey, it is merely an object of passing 
desire that soon fades, the brand is not strong


--FT

On 11/20/20 11:01 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Makes an Odyssey look almost svelte.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:



  2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)

Translation:  It's a POS


https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html

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Re: [MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes

Makes an Odyssey look almost svelte.

On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 10:00 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>
>   2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)
>
> Translation:  It's a POS
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html
>
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> --FT
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[MBZ] would be a great working project for someone who might cherish such a strong engine and even stronger brand!

2020-11-20 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes



 2007 Mercedes Benz R500 - GREAT DEAL!!! - $1,500(Huntersville)

Translation:  It's a POS

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/huntersville-2007-mercedes-benz-r500/7233998267.html

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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

2020-11-20 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

They need a copy of the factory service manual, and they need to properly
adjust (and perhaps repair) all the throttle linkages first.  If they can't
do that, you'll need to take the car to a garage that can do that.  The
service manual is free online (but painful to use to get to the proper
pages).

https://www.startekinfo.com/docs?cat=MB%20Workshop%20Resources

I do hope, for your sake, that they have not tried to adjust the pump
timing!

Very very rarely is the problem in the injection pump.  Usually a rough
idle is due to a bad injector or two, unbalanced injectors, valves out of
adjustment, or a leak in a fuel line allowing air into the system.  Rough
idle at start-up (while engine is below operating temperature) can also be
caused by a bad glow plug or two.

The only parts of the injection pump that may contribute to a rough idle
are the delivery valves.  The copper sealing rings (and perhaps the
springs) need to be replaced every hundred thousand miles or so.  I would
not trust anyone other than a certified Bosch shop or a long-time Mercedes
Diesel mechanic to attempt this job, because if you screw it up, the pump
needs to be removed from the car for adjustment, rebuild, or replacement.

-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 5:33 PM Kevin Kraly via Mercedes <
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> Hello Dieselers. The guys in the shop who replaced the engine in the 240D
> are having trouble with the idle adjustments. Does anyone have the info or
> a link for how to properly adjust the idle? I’ve never adjusted the idle on
> the IP on any of the cars I’ve owned.
> TIA,
> Kevin in a hillsboro, OR
> 2019 Sprinter 12 passenger 144WB 1659 miles, Low Mileage Lutgard
> 1982 240D, High Mileage Hildegard who has an irregular resting heartbeat
>
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

2020-11-20 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

No rack damper screw on a non-turbo OM61x.
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Charleston SC


On Fri, Nov 20, 2020 at 8:15 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
> > the linkage to match?
>
> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed
> with unless you're a diesel injection shop.
>
> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from
> bouncing at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
>
> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
>
> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific
> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated
> nylon donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that
> applies to a 1980s 240D.
> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's
> not much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

2020-11-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

Actually, it’s 20mm to get a 10mm clearance. There’s a hole in the middle that 
a pin on the vacuum valve goes in.

-D

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 8:50 AM, Dan Penoff  wrote:
> 
> 10mm disc that’s used to set the clearance on the throttle lever and the 
> vacuum valve. Not sure there’s a similar setup on the 240D, I don’t know.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
>>> the linkage to match?
>> 
>> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed with 
>> unless you're a diesel injection shop.
>> 
>> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from bouncing 
>> at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
>> 
>> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
>> 
>> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
>> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated nylon 
>> donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that applies to a 
>> 1980s 240D.
>> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's not 
>> much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

2020-11-20 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes

10mm disc that’s used to set the clearance on the throttle lever and the vacuum 
valve. Not sure there’s a similar setup on the 240D, I don’t know.

-D

> On Nov 20, 2020, at 7:11 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:
>> I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
>> the linkage to match?
> 
> Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed with 
> unless you're a diesel injection shop.
> 
> Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from bouncing 
> at idle. A blind man can adjust that.
> 
> I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.
> 
> Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
> procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated nylon 
> donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that applies to a 
> 1980s 240D.
> I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's not 
> much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Update on Hildegard, 1982 240D

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On 2020-11-19 21:21, Kevin Kraly via Mercedes wrote:

I’m not sure. Do you adjust the IP to the proper idle and then adjust
the linkage to match?


Let's see, there's a rack stop in the governor, should never be messed 
with unless you're a diesel injection shop.


Then there's the rack damper screw, intended to keep the rack from 
bouncing at idle. A blind man can adjust that.


I believe there's also a throttle stop on the IP.

Then there's the throttle linkage. My 1979 300SD has a rather specific 
procedure for adjusting all of that, and you need a little calibrated 
nylon donut for a couple of the steps. I'm not sure how much of that 
applies to a 1980s 240D.
I don't know where my donut is, I hope it's in the 300SD somewhere. It's 
not much bigger than a Hot Wheels tire.


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Re: [MBZ] It runs but has sat in a garage for approx. 15 years so just needs some bugs worked out.

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes


On 2020-11-20 06:44, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:


House of Ghia used to be the go-to for all things Ghia.


Hmm, website under construction.
I found a catalog, but prices might be out of date.
I guess you just do the old fashioned thing and call them on the phone?
http://online.fliphtml5.com/paot/jvss/#p=6

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Re: [MBZ] so I see this car and contact the guy

2020-11-20 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes

Some people only read the first sentence, or maybe just the first few words
in the first sentence, and then reply to that.

I used to compose long emails, lay out the situation, develop my point, and
then either ask the question or make the pitch.

Now I write one sentence up front that asks just one question (ask too many
questions and you won't be sure which question they are answering with
"ok") or makes just one statement, and then maybe I'll lay out the
situation.  If I have more then one question, they get separated into
multiple emails, or I make a phone call.
-
Max
Charleston SC

On Thu, Nov 19, 2020 at 3:15 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Seriously, are there so many stupid people in this world?  When can she
> look at it?  "OK. "  WTF
>
>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/chapel-hill-mercedes-benz-es/7233417123.html
>
> Interested in the E320.  My daughter lives in Chapel Hill, she could
> come take a look at it if we could make a time
>
> Ok
>
> What time might work for you?
>
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Re: [MBZ] It runs but has sat in a garage for approx. 15 years so just needs some bugs worked out.

2020-11-20 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2020-11-20 06:44, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

That’s great!

The Ghia was the only model VW I never owned but always wanted. nd of
course the best color was the bright orange - I restored a 1971
convertible that was the stock orange color.

Pictures, please!

House of Ghia used to be the go-to for all things Ghia. It’s not the
cheapest, but the guys who have owned and run it over the years are
seriously fanatical about quality and correctness of parts, so it’s a
great place to go and be sure you’re getting high quality stuff.

-D

On Nov 19, 2020, at 10:46 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:

Well I went and looked at this today, and bought it.

It's really solid, no rust anywhere that I could find, looked at
bottom

of doors, all around the base of the car and underneath fenders and
underside. The paint is not perfect, some crazing and a few cracks and
chips here and there. Everything is there trim-wise and lighting.

Engine and transmission rebuild/replacement is all documented, work
done
by Buggy Works in Martinsville which has been there since I was a kid
so

I assume they know what they are doing.

Disc brakes front and rear with new calipers.

Under the rear lid, engine fitted with dual carbs, electronic
ignition,

and an oil cooler with a spin-on filter. New air shrouding all
around. Battery relocated to the rear also. Engine starts right up but
splutters a little when you hit the throttle. Guessing the carbs need
cleaning after sitting for 15 years. The owner did recently drain the
gas tank and get fresh fuel.

Under the front lid, a new gas tank. Missing the spare tire though,
which I will need to find since I think the weight of it is important
for proper handling. Crazy spaghetti mess of wiring behind the dash
which I will need to clean up.

Interior is a little rougher. Floor covering is rubber and has become
brittle. It was cracking and falling apart as I tried to pull it
up. Plan is to clean that out, paint the floor pan with POR-15,
dynamat

it, and install a period correct carpet set which I assume can be
sourced somewhere. Will also want to look for new weatherstripping for
the doors. Window rubber looks OK.

The vinyl upholstery on the passenger door has a tear. The driver's
door
upholstery backing board is warped and will need to be replaced.
Drivers

seat has a small tear on the side.

The dash is wood, not sure if original or someone put that in. In any
case the finish is totally gone and will need to be redone. Cheap
aftermarket radio which I'll try to replace with something either
better

or closer to original.

All in all I'm pretty pleased. Back in the air-cooled world after
30-odd

years.

Allan

Dan Penoff via Mercedes writes:

Bloomfield - very rural.

Looks like a really nice deal if the underside is clean.

-D

On Nov 17, 2020, at 2:39 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes
wrote:

Non-MB, but German. And Italian I guess.

Honestly if it's not rusty, there's not much else to worry about.
Engine

is like a big lawn mower. Very simple.

https://bloomington.craigslist.org/cto/d/bloomfield-1969-volkswagen-karmann-ghia/7232441404.html

Allan

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