Re: [MBZ] OT AMA reverses course, HCL is OK to use to treat Wuhan Red Death!

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

Actually IVM works better as a prophylaxis.

Got horses?


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT AMA reverses course, HCL is OK to use to treat Wuhan Red 
Death!

I'll take the HCL and Zinc, and avoid the vax for now...

"RESOLVED, That our American Medical Association rescind its statement
calling for physicians 4 to stop prescribing hydroxychloroquine and
chloroquine until sufficient evidence becomes 5 available to conclusively
illustrate that the harm associated with use outweighs benefit early in 6 the
disease course. Implying that such treatment is inappropriate contradicts
AMA Policy 7 H-120.988, “Patient Access to Treatments Prescribed by Their
Physicians,” that addresses off 8 label prescriptions as appropriate in the
judgement of the prescribing physician (Directive to 9 Take Action); and be
it further10"

Scroll way down to page 18 to find this gem.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> This was back in May, when standard treatment was 'go ahead and feel 
> like crap until it runs its course, and call an ambulance if you're 
> dying'

I think that's still the treatment. Two of my boys had it, one brought
it home from school at Thanksgiving break, the other presumably got it
from him. They tested positive for COVID but had mild cases, worst of it
was a sore throat that felt like strep for a couple of days.

I have been supplementing Vitamin D, C, and Zinc since March, for
whatever that has been worth, I never developed any symptoms. We didn't
take any particular precautions in the house, though the sick ones spent
most of their time in their rooms.

I still suspect I may have had it back in late January. I came down with
a weird cough that lasted about a week. A fair number of international
students including Chinese work in my office, and no doubt some had been
home during the Christmas break.

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

My father came back pretty messed up in the head.  I have had a lot of 
people who knew him before he went and they say he came back a 
completely different person.


On 12/18/2020 2:54 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news aspects, I was 
too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends in school who’s older 
brothers were over there and came back pretty messed up in the head.

I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was up with 
the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just wondering.

Thanks!

-D


On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen while Mom 
had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.

Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I felt a 
great deal of stress relief after watching it, believe it or not.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

If it is the same one I am thinking of, yes, it is well worth it.

On 12/18/2020 2:18 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Has anyone watched this series by Ken Burns? I have seen bits and pieces of it 
but wasn’t sure the whole thing was worth watching, since it’s like 12 hours 
long.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

He can have my dose.

On 12/18/2020 12:14 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

You're retired, right?
I think they're saying 'stay at home, boomer, and leave the vaccine 
for the working people'.


On 2020-12-18 12:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
receive the coronavirus vaccine.


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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On 2020-12-18 18:42, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Hint:  If you buy a Walmart battery, but it online for in-store pickup.



Around here, battery prices are the same, but a lot of other stuff 
isn't.

Couple years ago I found a tolerable price on DVD-Rs.
Went in town to buy them and the shelf price was not so tolerable.
Took it to a price check scanner and it was going for shelf price.
A nice young fellow in the electronics department scanned it with his 
phone, looked up the web price, and price-matched the Wal-Mart web site 
for me. Subsequent visits convinced me that particular blue haired guy 
with a nose ring was the only helpful person in Electonics.


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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

What treatment did they have, especially early on?
My sister had zero treatment. For at least three weeks she was so sick 
that it was a major task just to go to the front door for a bag of 
groceries and drag it to the refrigerator 20' away. (bedroom to front 
door is more than 20')
This was back in May, when standard treatment was 'go ahead and feel 
like crap until it runs its course, and call an ambulance if you're 
dying'


On 2020-12-18 19:02, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
Well, there is always the covid option. My sister was desaturating 
while
trying to walk her dog on level ground. She is a distance swimmer 
normally.

Other people I know who have had it were avid runners before, and still
cannot run two months later. People in their 40s and 50s. But yeah, the
vaccine hurts your arm a little bit for a day or so.



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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I drew 248 and was therefore able to enlist in the Peace Corps.  I refused
to go to a recent college reunion because they were going to have lots of
group talk about the Experience of Vietnam, which meant nothing to me
personally.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 6:10 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I lost several HS classmates to Vietnam. I missed going due to Nixon's
> first draft lottery where I drew 324. My best friend at the time drew 24.
> He stayed in ROTC and let the Army send him to medical school, I dropped
> out of ROTC and stopped cutting my hair and shaving.
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Agreed. As I mentioned, I had some school buddies who’s older brothers
> > were over there, and when they came back some of them were pretty messed
> > up. I worked for one of them when I pumped gas a few months in high
> school,
> > and this guy was a real hum dinger. He couldn’t handle stress at all. We
> > weren’t allowed to have more than a certain amount of cash on us at any
> > time, so if you collected a number of sales and were over the limit you
> > were supposed to make a drop in the safe. During rush hour he would get
> so
> > worked up about having to make drops after nearly every sale that he
> would
> > end up going into the office and locking himself in there so he could
> calm
> > down. We would be pumping gas and not able to make change in some
> instances
> > because we would need to get change from him.
> >
> > One of my best friends is a Vietnam vet. He was a photographer for the
> > Army, and while he saw some action he wasn’t in the really nasty stuff
> > according to him. Good guy, pretty stable from what I’ve seen over 20
> some
> > years, but he’s got some personality traits that I suspect are either a
> > result of his service or that he’s a hard core New Yorker - tough to make
> > the distinction.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Dec 18, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I watched it when it was on PBS, it was pretty good but made me angry
> > and frustrated. Such a waste.
> > >
> > > I worked summers after HS and in college at the airport at a FBO. We
> had
> > one pilot who flew charters, he was a few years older than me and had
> been
> > there. We would hang out in the evenings when things were slow. One night
> > we were talking and he had this flashback episode like he was back there
> > and reliving this incident.  It was scary, he didn’t get violent or
> > anything, but it was incredibly emotional and very difficult for him. Bad
> > sh*t happened there. I felt really bad for him. Nobody had the term PTSD
> > back then but that was clearly what was going on for him.
> > >
> > > On another interesting note — Uncle Ho supposedly worked in a Chinese
> > restaurant in FWA for awhile before he went back and became a
> > revolutionary. Several people told me this.
> > >
> > > --FT
> > > Sent from iPhone
> > >
> > >> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news
> > aspects, I was too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends
> in
> > school who’s older brothers were over there and came back pretty messed
> up
> > in the head.
> > >>
> > >> I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was
> > up with the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just
> > wondering.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks!
> > >>
> > >> -D
> > >>
> > >>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen
> > while Mom had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.
> > >>>
> > >>> Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I
> > felt a great deal of stress relief after watching it, believe it or not.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

I am not paying that close of attention to the circus.  White folks so far, as 
the natives are not online for shots yet.  The ANC retirement home will be 
getting injected this day.  No report on how it impacts a gerontologic group.

Clay


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> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:18 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.
> 
> Is that among indigineous people or non-natives?
> 
> Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I always go to the Interstate store for batteries. Never got a dud and
they'll install it on the spot if you want, which also saves the hassle
of the core exchange.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> Interesting suggestions for cheapskates here, including going to the 
> warehouse and asking for a Blem or Second, which apparently means it was 
> a year old, they desulphated it and marked it half price.
>
> https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Where-can-a-guy-go-and-pay-less-than-retail-for-a-car-battery-/5-2403254/=2
>

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I’ve done it at Advance Auto when I couldn’t figure out exactly what it was I 
needed. Sit there for a few minutes until the order comes through the system. 
Worth every penny.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:30 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have done that while standing in front of the product
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Hint:  If you buy a Walmart battery, but it online for in-store pickup.
>> Last time I got one I saw a good price online and just went to the store to
>> pick one up.  When they "rang it up" the cost was almost double the online
>> price.  If I had had any sense I would have cancelled that sale, ordered one
>> on my cell phone, and then walked to the pickup area.  Lesson learned.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
>> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:14 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec
>> 
>> This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the right
>> terminal configuration.
>> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-
>> 750-CCA/841832089
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I have done that while standing in front of the product

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 6:43 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hint:  If you buy a Walmart battery, but it online for in-store pickup.
> Last time I got one I saw a good price online and just went to the store to
> pick one up.  When they "rang it up" the cost was almost double the online
> price.  If I had had any sense I would have cancelled that sale, ordered one
> on my cell phone, and then walked to the pickup area.  Lesson learned.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Mitch Haley via Mercedes
> Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 2:14 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec
> 
> This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the right
> terminal configuration.
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-
> 750-CCA/841832089
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

There is a huge operation here to package the Moderna doses. Being done
at a company called Catalent. It has been going on for a while now. They
built a new facility and were hiring all summer to prep for it. VP Pence
was here the other day to visit. Interesting operation to fly his
entourage and motorcade into our little county airport.

Allan

OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> The Moderna vac is much easier to transport/store - is better suited for
> the outlying villages.
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:44 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> GWN is scraping the dregs from the vials to gather a few more doses.
>> Since it is not easy to store, I guess they are hoping to service enough
>> before the thing goes off.  There is also the trouble of not being able to
>> get it to outlying villages before it goes off, since each case needs to
>> get split into 50 or 100 dose batches.
>>
>> Andrew can have my doses.
>>
>> Clay

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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Clay Monroe via Mercedes  writes:

> AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.

Is that among indigineous people or non-natives?

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Well, there is always the covid option. My sister was desaturating while
trying to walk her dog on level ground. She is a distance swimmer normally.
Other people I know who have had it were avid runners before, and still
cannot run two months later. People in their 40s and 50s. But yeah, the
vaccine hurts your arm a little bit for a day or so.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 3:10 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.  Not the
> astronomically comic 1 in a million the legacy media and Kool-Aid Corps
> tout.  And this was in young and healthy population of medical workers.
> Not a million mile Benz, more akin to a soap box racer
>
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19
> VACCINE
> > https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ
> >
> > How long until the tech overlords ban this one?
> > -
> > Max
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[OK Don via Mercedes]

The Moderna vac is much easier to transport/store - is better suited for
the outlying villages.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 5:44 PM Clay Monroe via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> GWN is scraping the dregs from the vials to gather a few more doses.
> Since it is not easy to store, I guess they are hoping to service enough
> before the thing goes off.  There is also the trouble of not being able to
> get it to outlying villages before it goes off, since each case needs to
> get split into 50 or 100 dose batches.
>
> Andrew can have my doses.
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I would call your doc and tell him/her you want the vax, to call you
> when they get some
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 12/18/20 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
> >> receive the coronavirus vaccine.
> >>
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

GWN is scraping the dregs from the vials to gather a few more doses.  Since it 
is not easy to store, I guess they are hoping to service enough before the 
thing goes off.  There is also the trouble of not being able to get it to 
outlying villages before it goes off, since each case needs to get split into 
50 or 100 dose batches.

Andrew can have my doses.

Clay


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> On Dec 18, 2020, at 9:14 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would call your doc and tell him/her you want the vax, to call you when 
> they get some
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 12/18/20 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
>> receive the coronavirus vaccine.
>> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Hint:  If you buy a Walmart battery, but it online for in-store pickup.
Last time I got one I saw a good price online and just went to the store to
pick one up.  When they "rang it up" the cost was almost double the online
price.  If I had had any sense I would have cancelled that sale, ordered one
on my cell phone, and then walked to the pickup area.  Lesson learned.

-Original Message-
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the right
terminal configuration.
https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I lost several HS classmates to Vietnam. I missed going due to Nixon's
first draft lottery where I drew 324. My best friend at the time drew 24.
He stayed in ROTC and let the Army send him to medical school, I dropped
out of ROTC and stopped cutting my hair and shaving.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 4:45 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Agreed. As I mentioned, I had some school buddies who’s older brothers
> were over there, and when they came back some of them were pretty messed
> up. I worked for one of them when I pumped gas a few months in high school,
> and this guy was a real hum dinger. He couldn’t handle stress at all. We
> weren’t allowed to have more than a certain amount of cash on us at any
> time, so if you collected a number of sales and were over the limit you
> were supposed to make a drop in the safe. During rush hour he would get so
> worked up about having to make drops after nearly every sale that he would
> end up going into the office and locking himself in there so he could calm
> down. We would be pumping gas and not able to make change in some instances
> because we would need to get change from him.
>
> One of my best friends is a Vietnam vet. He was a photographer for the
> Army, and while he saw some action he wasn’t in the really nasty stuff
> according to him. Good guy, pretty stable from what I’ve seen over 20 some
> years, but he’s got some personality traits that I suspect are either a
> result of his service or that he’s a hard core New Yorker - tough to make
> the distinction.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I watched it when it was on PBS, it was pretty good but made me angry
> and frustrated. Such a waste.
> >
> > I worked summers after HS and in college at the airport at a FBO. We had
> one pilot who flew charters, he was a few years older than me and had been
> there. We would hang out in the evenings when things were slow. One night
> we were talking and he had this flashback episode like he was back there
> and reliving this incident.  It was scary, he didn’t get violent or
> anything, but it was incredibly emotional and very difficult for him. Bad
> sh*t happened there. I felt really bad for him. Nobody had the term PTSD
> back then but that was clearly what was going on for him.
> >
> > On another interesting note — Uncle Ho supposedly worked in a Chinese
> restaurant in FWA for awhile before he went back and became a
> revolutionary. Several people told me this.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news
> aspects, I was too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends in
> school who’s older brothers were over there and came back pretty messed up
> in the head.
> >>
> >> I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was
> up with the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just
> wondering.
> >>
> >> Thanks!
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen
> while Mom had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.
> >>>
> >>> Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I
> felt a great deal of stress relief after watching it, believe it or not.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

AK has had 1 in 250 severe reactions to this inoculation.  Not the 
astronomically comic 1 in a million the legacy media and Kool-Aid Corps tout.  
And this was in young and healthy population of medical workers.  Not a million 
mile Benz, more akin to a soap box racer


Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 7:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19 VACCINE
> https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ
> 
> How long until the tech overlords ban this one?
> -
> Max

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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Agreed. As I mentioned, I had some school buddies who’s older brothers were 
over there, and when they came back some of them were pretty messed up. I 
worked for one of them when I pumped gas a few months in high school, and this 
guy was a real hum dinger. He couldn’t handle stress at all. We weren’t allowed 
to have more than a certain amount of cash on us at any time, so if you 
collected a number of sales and were over the limit you were supposed to make a 
drop in the safe. During rush hour he would get so worked up about having to 
make drops after nearly every sale that he would end up going into the office 
and locking himself in there so he could calm down. We would be pumping gas and 
not able to make change in some instances because we would need to get change 
from him.

One of my best friends is a Vietnam vet. He was a photographer for the Army, 
and while he saw some action he wasn’t in the really nasty stuff according to 
him. Good guy, pretty stable from what I’ve seen over 20 some years, but he’s 
got some personality traits that I suspect are either a result of his service 
or that he’s a hard core New Yorker - tough to make the distinction.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 5:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I watched it when it was on PBS, it was pretty good but made me angry and 
> frustrated. Such a waste. 
> 
> I worked summers after HS and in college at the airport at a FBO. We had one 
> pilot who flew charters, he was a few years older than me and had been there. 
> We would hang out in the evenings when things were slow. One night we were 
> talking and he had this flashback episode like he was back there and reliving 
> this incident.  It was scary, he didn’t get violent or anything, but it was 
> incredibly emotional and very difficult for him. Bad sh*t happened there. I 
> felt really bad for him. Nobody had the term PTSD back then but that was 
> clearly what was going on for him. 
> 
> On another interesting note — Uncle Ho supposedly worked in a Chinese 
> restaurant in FWA for awhile before he went back and became a revolutionary. 
> Several people told me this. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news aspects, I 
>> was too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends in school 
>> who’s older brothers were over there and came back pretty messed up in the 
>> head. 
>> 
>> I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was up 
>> with the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just 
>> wondering.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen while 
>>> Mom had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.
>>> 
>>> Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I felt a 
>>> great deal of stress relief after watching it, believe it or not.  
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

The French bailed on Viet Nam because holding on to a plantation colony wasn't 
worth the money, effort, or dead soldiers.  The Viet Cong were probably the 
best army in the world, having been in combat (and winning) since the 1920's 
fighting off the Chinese under several governments and the Japanese during 
WWII.  Chinese expansion has stopped in Viet Nam multiple times over the 
centuries of recorded history.

Incidentally, Uncle Ho became a communist in the 1920's after he was bodily 
thrown down the front stairs of the League Of Nations for having the temerity 
to ask when Viet Nam was going to become an independent country (as it had been 
for the previous several centuries).  Like Mahatma Ghandi, he started out as a 
conservative government trainee and was radicalized by the right wingers of the 
time.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I watched it when it was on PBS, it was pretty good but made me angry and 
frustrated. Such a waste. 

I worked summers after HS and in college at the airport at a FBO. We had one 
pilot who flew charters, he was a few years older than me and had been there. 
We would hang out in the evenings when things were slow. One night we were 
talking and he had this flashback episode like he was back there and reliving 
this incident.  It was scary, he didn’t get violent or anything, but it was 
incredibly emotional and very difficult for him. Bad sh*t happened there. I 
felt really bad for him. Nobody had the term PTSD back then but that was 
clearly what was going on for him. 

On another interesting note — Uncle Ho supposedly worked in a Chinese 
restaurant in FWA for awhile before he went back and became a revolutionary. 
Several people told me this. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news aspects, I 
> was too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends in school who’s 
> older brothers were over there and came back pretty messed up in the head. 
> 
> I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was up with 
> the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just wondering.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen while 
>> Mom had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.
>> 
>> Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I felt a 
>> great deal of stress relief after watching it, believe it or not.  
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Re: [MBZ] Faux Tucker for a fraction of the cost

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

A high school buddy used to be a “junior” curator at the 500 Speedway museum. 
He talked about how they were really picky about donations of cars, no matter 
what they were, because they almost always came with some sort of demands or 
requirements from the owner. Things like how they would be displayed, whether 
or not the museum could sell them in the future, etc., etc. He said that in 
some cases when they accepted donations of multiple vehicles it could get 
dicey, because some could be real clunkers requiring substantial restoration 
($$$) that weren’t of much value or interest to the collection.

He’s not there any more, which is too bad, as he would be a good resource for 
the ones they’ve been actively auctioning off some of the collection from the 
“vault” (their underground storage garage that’s not part of the public view) 
on BaT of late. Too many cars, not enough space, storing and maintaining them 
costs money and takes away from the restoration and maintenance of cars that 
are more closely related to the subject of the museum.

-D


> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:38 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Tucker's nephew thought it belonged in a museum, so he bought it and gave it 
> to a museum, which subsequently sold it back into the private market?
> I bet if he gave it to Gilmore instead of Yipsy it'd still be in a museum.
> 
> On 2020-12-18 11:03, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> of the genuine article on BAT.  You could fool/impress many of your friends.
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-tucker-model-48-movie-car/
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

A UTI snuck up on her they reckon and it went to sepsis. Got her afib all 
wigged out ( heart rate up to 180bpm). Lost pretty much all neurological stuff 
went south ( didn’t know her name, birthday, how to walk up stairs). Was in 
hospital for 10 days. Post sepsis, she has no short term memory. Was forgetting 
how to drive but didn’t realize it until she was behind the wheel trying to 
exit her trailer park. She is a hot mess now. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Sorry to hear that, Bob. At least now she’ll be close by so your family can 
> keep tabs on her.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 74 and stupid humid here in Donna, Texas. And windy AF.  Just about have all 
>> my ma-in-law’s stuff loaded in the uhaul and the golf cart is secured in the 
>> trailer. Putting her on a plane in the morning, youngest daughter is picking 
>> her up and SWMBO and I will start on the drive back to AZ. She will be about 
>> 5 minutes away in her retirement community apartment. 
>> Sold her park model she’s lived in for 3o years and her car in one day’s 
>> time. Dispersed her things among Goodwill, trailer park garage sale, 
>> dumpster, and what she wants in her AZ apt.
>> Sepsis is a bitch. Took a vital 85 year old and stomped her in the dirt. 
>> Almost instantly she cannot be on her own anymore. 
>> 
>> Bob R
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but 
>>> still…I’ll be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as 
>>> it’s sunny, I can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 That ain't Indy.
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: December 18, 2020 12:38 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: d...@penoff.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather
 
 42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for 
 his morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.
 
 Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.
 
 -D
 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
>> with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
> 
> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt 
> road was wet and muddy.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

As I was alive at the time and recall a lot of the evening news aspects, I was 
too young to fully grasp what was going on. I had friends in school who’s older 
brothers were over there and came back pretty messed up in the head. 

I’m interested mainly in the stuff leading up to the war and what was up with 
the French bailing out. The rest should be good, too, I was just wondering.

Thanks!

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:45 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen while 
> Mom had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.
> 
> Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I felt a 
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Re: [MBZ] Battery desulfator

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Read this thread at the 500E forum. There are a couple of people there who have 
come close ot making careers over reviewing and understanding when these things 
do.

https://www.500eboard.co/forums/threads/battery-maintainer-recommendations.14521/
 


-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I presume that idea of these things is to take an old dead battery and 
> resurrect it by cleaning off the sulfur gunk off the plates?  I got plenty of 
> test subjects sitting around.
> 
> I see this 1A model for 
> https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1-Fully-Automatic-Temperature-Compensation/dp/B07W46BX31
>  for $29.50 and a 2A for $54, 5A for $65.  I guess the idea is to put it on a 
> battery and leave it for some extended period while it does its magic?  So 
> the smaller one will just take longer to work?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Peter Frederick via Mercedes]

It's very good.  I "watched" most of the first part from the kitchen while Mom 
had it on the TV, I don't have good memories from those days.

Well worth the time, Burns is a good historian and very neutral.  I felt a 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Sorry to hear that, Bob. At least now she’ll be close by so your family can 
keep tabs on her.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> 74 and stupid humid here in Donna, Texas. And windy AF.  Just about have all 
> my ma-in-law’s stuff loaded in the uhaul and the golf cart is secured in the 
> trailer. Putting her on a plane in the morning, youngest daughter is picking 
> her up and SWMBO and I will start on the drive back to AZ. She will be about 
> 5 minutes away in her retirement community apartment. 
> Sold her park model she’s lived in for 3o years and her car in one day’s 
> time. Dispersed her things among Goodwill, trailer park garage sale, 
> dumpster, and what she wants in her AZ apt.
> Sepsis is a bitch. Took a vital 85 year old and stomped her in the dirt. 
> Almost instantly she cannot be on her own anymore. 
> 
> Bob R
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but 
>> still…I’ll be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as it’s 
>> sunny, I can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That ain't Indy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: December 18, 2020 12:38 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather
>>> 
>>> 42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for 
>>> his morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.
>>> 
>>> Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
> with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
 
 Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
 My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

I can deal with that. The cold doesn’t bother me. I just hate the gloomy stuff. 
And when it’s sunny and clear up there this time of year, the sky is so blue 
and intense it’s amazing. One thing I like about winter (up north.)

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 3:33 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Forecast for next Friday, 8 for the low, 19 high. But sunny!
> 
> 
> Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but 
>> still…I’ll be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as it’s 
>> sunny, I can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> That ain't Indy.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

How did your ma-in-law get sepsis?

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On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 3:24 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> 74 and stupid humid here in Donna, Texas. And windy AF.  Just about have
> all my ma-in-law’s stuff loaded in the uhaul and the golf cart is secured
> in the trailer. Putting her on a plane in the morning, youngest daughter is
> picking her up and SWMBO and I will start on the drive back to AZ. She will
> be about 5 minutes away in her retirement community apartment.
> Sold her park model she’s lived in for 3o years and her car in one day’s
> time. Dispersed her things among Goodwill, trailer park garage sale,
> dumpster, and what she wants in her AZ apt.
> Sepsis is a bitch. Took a vital 85 year old and stomped her in the dirt.
> Almost instantly she cannot be on her own anymore.
>
> Bob R
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but
> still…I’ll be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as
> it’s sunny, I can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> That ain't Indy.
> >>
> >>
> >> Rick
> >>
> >> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Sent: December 18, 2020 12:38 PM
> >> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather
> >>
> >> 42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai
> for his morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.
> >>
> >> Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>  On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>  Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished
> off
>  with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
> >>>
> >>> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
> >>> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the
> dirt road was wet and muddy.
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Re: [MBZ] Battery desulfator

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

http://jgdarden.com/batteryfaq/carfaq16.htm

This is the article I was thinking of.  "Equalizing" is what he calls it,
not "rebalancing".
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Max
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On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:45 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I presume that idea of these things is to take an old dead battery and
> resurrect it by cleaning off the sulfur gunk off the plates?  I got
> plenty of test subjects sitting around.
>
> I see this 1A model for
>
> https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1-Fully-Automatic-Temperature-Compensation/dp/B07W46BX31
> for $29.50 and a 2A for $54, 5A for $65.  I guess the idea is to put it
> on a battery and leave it for some extended period while it does its
> magic?  So the smaller one will just take longer to work?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Forecast for next Friday, 8 for the low, 19 high. But sunny!


Dan Penoff via Mercedes  writes:

> Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but still…I’ll 
> be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as it’s sunny, I 
> can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That ain't Indy.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] Battery desulfator

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Well I'm not sure that going bigger than 2A is going to decrease the 'cure'
time.  When I was looking at these, I thought that the magic was in the
voltage spike / harmonics, not the current rating.

I also read an article from a guy who seemed to be very knowledgeable on
battery chemistry and his recommendation was a "rebalancing" process to fix
a weak / dead battery, whereby he basically would over-charge the battery
for some limited period of time, and then test and fix the electrolyte
levels and water levels.


-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:45 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I presume that idea of these things is to take an old dead battery and
> resurrect it by cleaning off the sulfur gunk off the plates?  I got
> plenty of test subjects sitting around.
>
> I see this 1A model for
>
> https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1-Fully-Automatic-Temperature-Compensation/dp/B07W46BX31
> for $29.50 and a 2A for $54, 5A for $65.  I guess the idea is to put it
> on a battery and leave it for some extended period while it does its
> magic?  So the smaller one will just take longer to work?
>
> --
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

74 and stupid humid here in Donna, Texas. And windy AF.  Just about have all my 
ma-in-law’s stuff loaded in the uhaul and the golf cart is secured in the 
trailer. Putting her on a plane in the morning, youngest daughter is picking 
her up and SWMBO and I will start on the drive back to AZ. She will be about 5 
minutes away in her retirement community apartment. 
Sold her park model she’s lived in for 3o years and her car in one day’s time. 
Dispersed her things among Goodwill, trailer park garage sale, dumpster, and 
what she wants in her AZ apt.
Sepsis is a bitch. Took a vital 85 year old and stomped her in the dirt. Almost 
instantly she cannot be on her own anymore. 

Bob R

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:03 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but 
> still…I’ll be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as it’s 
> sunny, I can deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That ain't Indy.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: December 18, 2020 12:38 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: d...@penoff.com
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather
>> 
>> 42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for 
>> his morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.
>> 
>> Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
 with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
>>> 
>>> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
>>> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt 
>>> road was wet and muddy.
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[MBZ] OT - The Vietnam War Series by Ken Burns

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Has anyone watched this series by Ken Burns? I have seen bits and pieces of it 
but wasn’t sure the whole thing was worth watching, since it’s like 12 hours 
long.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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Absorbed Glass Mat

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:20 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> AGM means?
>
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:14 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the
> > right terminal configuration.
> >
> >
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-750-CCA/841832089
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It’s paywalled. I guess I’m behind everyone then, unless I buy a subscription 
to the NYT?

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
> receive the coronavirus vaccine.
> https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html
> 
> It generated the following response:
> 
> "Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind *118.5
> million *people across the United States.
> 
> When it comes to *Maryland*, we think you’re behind *2.2 million* others
> who are at higher risk in your state.
> 
> And in *Montgomery County*, you’re behind *304,800* others."
> 
> I had no idea I was so relatively invulnerable.
> 
> As an incentive to complete the questionnaire, I will send a jar of pepper
> jelly to whoever has the documented highest priority/lowest number of
> people ahead in line.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-18 14:01, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

And that’s why I would consider buying one, as well as one of the Ford
hybrids. I can’t do a fully electric car as my daily mileage if I’m
driving just for a commute I’m approaching that 50 mile mark.


The same battery is good for 70-100 miles (when new) in the Spark, but 
those are all four-six years old now. And you have to drive a Korean 
phone booth. But they're considerably quicker than a Volt, 0-60 in the 
low 7s, and will lay rubber for 2-3' before traction control kicks in.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

Heck, Indy was close to 60F last week. I know it’s colder now, but still…I’ll 
be up there the week after Xmas, so I’m prepared. As long as it’s sunny, I can 
deal with the cold. Just hate the overcast.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:56 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That ain't Indy.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: December 18, 2020 12:38 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather
> 
> 42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for his 
> morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.
> 
> Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
>>> with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
>> 
>> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
>> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt road 
>> was wet and muddy.
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

And that’s why I would consider buying one, as well as one of the Ford hybrids. 
I can’t do a fully electric car as my daily mileage if I’m driving just for a 
commute I’m approaching that 50 mile mark.

Ford is dumping sedans, so their Fusion “Energi” can be had for cheap.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-12-18 13:27, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>> Thought about you on the way home fro the office today, I was behind a
>> Volt on the Crosstown Expressway. They were keeping up pretty well.
> 
> A Volt is a Cruze with a non-turbo engine and a fair sized battery and some 
> minor aero improvements.
> 
> I know a couple of guys who switched from Cruze to Volt and loved it, but I 
> keep coming back to the fact that the Volt is about 500lb heavier and 
> noticeably slower, combined with the fact that I could never make up the 
> difference in purchase price on fuel savings. But they're thrilled with their 
> '200mpg fuel consumption', and say the smooth ride and quietness on e-power 
> are worth it.
> 
> At least it allows normal people (under 50 miles per day) to drive an 
> electric car, while still retaining the ability to go 400 miles on a tank of 
> gas when they travel long distances.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

That ain't Indy.


Rick

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for his 
morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.

Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
>
> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
>> with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
>
> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt road 
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[MBZ] Battery desulfator

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I presume that idea of these things is to take an old dead battery and 
resurrect it by cleaning off the sulfur gunk off the plates?  I got 
plenty of test subjects sitting around.


I see this 1A model for 
https://www.amazon.com/NOCO-GENIUS1-Fully-Automatic-Temperature-Compensation/dp/B07W46BX31 
for $29.50 and a 2A for $54, 5A for $65.  I guess the idea is to put it 
on a battery and leave it for some extended period while it does its 
magic?  So the smaller one will just take longer to work?


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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-18 13:27, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thought about you on the way home fro the office today, I was behind a
Volt on the Crosstown Expressway. They were keeping up pretty well.


A Volt is a Cruze with a non-turbo engine and a fair sized battery and 
some minor aero improvements.


I know a couple of guys who switched from Cruze to Volt and loved it, 
but I keep coming back to the fact that the Volt is about 500lb heavier 
and noticeably slower, combined with the fact that I could never make up 
the difference in purchase price on fuel savings. But they're thrilled 
with their '200mpg fuel consumption', and say the smooth ride and 
quietness on e-power are worth it.


At least it allows normal people (under 50 miles per day) to drive an 
electric car, while still retaining the ability to go 400 miles on a 
tank of gas when they travel long distances.


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I am uber eligible for roadside, having spent over $1k already this year.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:25 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
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> It’s worth it. Pay the money, let them assume the risk and move on. It
> will also get you into the spend where you’re eligible for roadside
> assistance, too, I believe.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > They quoted me $345 including $95 for installation.
> >
> > On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> The dealership battery is a good deal and they’ll probably even install
> it
> >> for you, allowing you to avoid having to reset everything.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K
> miles.
> >>> It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
> >>> recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs
> $235
> >>> and has a 2 year warranty.
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

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Thought about you on the way home fro the office today, I was behind a Volt on 
the Crosstown Expressway. They were keeping up pretty well.

Love the Buick. I’m a sucker for late 30s/early 40s sedans with the “hump” 
trunk. Those things are massive inside.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 1:00 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
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> 
> On 2020-12-18 11:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> And in gratitude for his service we should all pitch in so he can own it.
>> I'll spot the first $5.  Who's next?
>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-600-2/
> 
> How much would you pay to put Dan in a Buick?
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1936-buick-century/
> 
> I'll take a Barracuda, or maybe a Healey 3000
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-plymouth-barracuda-12/
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-20/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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It’s worth it. Pay the money, let them assume the risk and move on. It will 
also get you into the spend where you’re eligible for roadside assistance, too, 
I believe.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 2:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> They quoted me $345 including $95 for installation.
> 
> On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:20 PM Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> The dealership battery is a good deal and they’ll probably even install it
>> for you, allowing you to avoid having to reset everything.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K miles.
>>> It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
>>> recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs $235
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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They quoted me $345 including $95 for installation.

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> The dealership battery is a good deal and they’ll probably even install it
> for you, allowing you to avoid having to reset everything.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
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> > It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
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> > and has a 2 year warranty.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

The dealership battery is a good deal and they’ll probably even install it for 
you, allowing you to avoid having to reset everything.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K miles.
> It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
> recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs $235
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

AGM means?

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 2:14 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the
> right terminal configuration.
>
> https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-750-CCA/841832089
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

This seems like a deal, if you can find one in stock and if it has the 
right terminal configuration.

https://www.walmart.com/ip/EverStart-Platinum-AGM-Battery-Group-Size-65-12V-750-CCA/841832089

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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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Advance Auto sells a "Platinum AGM" Diehard with 760 CCA for $220 less
discount, or an Optima for $294 (no discount).
https://shop.advanceautoparts.com/c3/car-batteries/15597?rrec=true=C30540

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:51 PM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > a Blem or Second, which apparently means it was a year old, they
> desulphated it and marked it half price.
>
> Three of the four 75AH blem/seconds in my main UPS are 14 years old, the
> other one is 10 years old.
> The UPS is still working fine.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-18 12:22, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
$88.76:  EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size 65N 
(12

Volt/850 CCA)


It's under the hood, so it doesn't need to be AGM?

I'd still consider paying extra for AGM, ever see a 123 with rust around 
the battery and nowhere else under the hood?


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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I like the Buick ...
Have you ever driven a Healey 3000? It's like a chopped down truck compared
to an MG or Triumph.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 12:01 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-12-18 11:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > And in gratitude for his service we should all pitch in so he can own
> > it.
> >
> > I'll spot the first $5.  Who's next?
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-600-2/
>
> How much would you pay to put Dan in a Buick?
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1936-buick-century/
>
> I'll take a Barracuda, or maybe a Healey 3000
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-plymouth-barracuda-12/
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-20/
>
> I knew they sold Innocentis in Canada, but had no idea there was a De
> Tomaso branded turbo version.
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-innocenti-detomaso-turbo/
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> a Blem or Second, which apparently means it was a year old, they desulphated 
> it and marked it half price.

Three of the four 75AH blem/seconds in my main UPS are 14 years old, the other 
one is 10 years old.
The UPS is still working fine.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Which reminds me, we need to start shopping for batteries for the Pisten 
Bully, the ones in it (well for it, they're in my garage) are 6 years old. When 
I put them on the charger Wednesday afternoon they took 4a, 24 hours later 
they're "done". I should have had them on the desulfator all summer, if they 
recover enough to get us through this season I probably will.
I did put each of the ASV batteries on the desfulfator for a month. I dunno if 
it helps, they're only like 3 years old.
The PITA thing with the PB is that its a 24v system, more difficult to jump 
start. Fortunately it usually starts easy.
-Curt

On Friday, December 18, 2020, 1:21:14 PM EST, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
Interesting suggestions for cheapskates here, including going to the 
warehouse and asking for a Blem or Second, which apparently means it was 
a year old, they desulphated it and marked it half price.

https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Where-can-a-guy-go-and-pay-less-than-retail-for-a-car-battery-/5-2403254/=2

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Interesting, if I check the box for COVID related risk its 68 million ahead of 
me, if I say no it's 268 million...Pretty broad.
-Curt

On Friday, December 18, 2020, 1:07:51 PM EST, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
receive the coronavirus vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

It generated the following response:

"Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind *118.5
million *people across the United States.

When it comes to *Maryland*, we think you’re behind *2.2 million* others
who are at higher risk in your state.

And in *Montgomery County*, you’re behind *304,800* others."

I had no idea I was so relatively invulnerable.

As an incentive to complete the questionnaire, I will send a jar of pepper
jelly to whoever has the documented highest priority/lowest number of
people ahead in line.

Andrew S
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

42F when I went out this morning at 5:00. Kitty went out on the lanai for his 
morning prowl and came back quite fluffy.

Up to 52F or so at lunchtime. Nice and sunny, which is all I care about.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
>> with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.
> 
> Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
> My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt road 
> was wet and muddy.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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The good thing about El Mercado de Wal is that you can find a store 
almost anywhere if you have a problem and they are pretty good about 
exchanges if there is a problem, esp if you are even halfway civil in 
the interactions with the Customer Service desk


--FT

On 12/18/20 1:22 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:



  $88.76:  EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size 65N
  (12 Volt/850 CCA)


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:14 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Just go to El Mercado de Wal and buy one, I think they also have 2yr
replacement

--FT

On 12/18/20 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and
138K miles.
> It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
> recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery
costs $235
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting Satellite Tech

[Dan Penoff via Mercedes]

It predates drones. There have been third party services that use Google Earth 
and other photo mapping services to look for changes to buildings and property. 
They sell the data to municipalities for identifying changes to properties.

The county I lived in Indiana back in 2008-2011 used a survey service for the 
property appraiser like this to bust people for improvements to their property. 
I had a neighbor who put up a garden shed and within about three months they 
got a notice of reassessment. I believe they also got busted for not getting a 
permit, too. Of course, someone for the county could have taken notice or a 
neighbor could have ratted them out, too.

-D

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:18 AM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That’s already happening with “drones” surveilling properties for tax 
> violations 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That's pretty nasty.  I wonder if a jammer would be illegal.  Funny how
>> they try to couch the capability as something benign, that scientist will
>> use to "save the earth", but they also do talk about military use.  Now
>> imagine your local tax auditor or county building code enforcement uses
>> this to inspect your property and notify you that your new shed is out of
>> code, or your property taxes are going up because the value of your
>> property is higher than they thought.  Even worse, you own a very nice
>> piece of property in the country, and some enviro wackos decide you've got
>> some protected species that only they can protect adequately and you end up
>> fighting off The State and lawsuits and all kinds of harassment, because
>> your privacy can be invaded at any time.
>> -
>> Max
>> Charleston SC
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

$88.76:  EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size 65N (12
Volt/850 CCA)

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 1:14 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Just go to El Mercado de Wal and buy one, I think they also have 2yr
> replacement
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/18/20 12:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K miles.
> > It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
> > recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs $235
> > and has a 2 year warranty.
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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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Interesting suggestions for cheapskates here, including going to the 
warehouse and asking for a Blem or Second, which apparently means it was 
a year old, they desulphated it and marked it half price.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

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I'm in no hurry.

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> You're retired, right?
> I think they're saying 'stay at home, boomer, and leave the vaccine for
> the working people'.
>
> On 2020-12-18 12:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
> > receive the coronavirus vaccine.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

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I would call your doc and tell him/her you want the vax, to call you 
when they get some


--FT

On 12/18/20 1:06 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
receive the coronavirus vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

It generated the following response:

"Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind *118.5
million *people across the United States.

When it comes to *Maryland*, we think you’re behind *2.2 million* others
who are at higher risk in your state.

And in *Montgomery County*, you’re behind *304,800* others."

I had no idea I was so relatively invulnerable.

As an incentive to complete the questionnaire, I will send a jar of pepper
jelly to whoever has the documented highest priority/lowest number of
people ahead in line.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

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You're retired, right?
I think they're saying 'stay at home, boomer, and leave the vaccine for 
the working people'.


On 2020-12-18 12:06, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
receive the coronavirus vaccine.


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Re: [MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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Just go to El Mercado de Wal and buy one, I think they also have 2yr 
replacement


--FT

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My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K miles.
It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs $235
and has a 2 year warranty.
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

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The first three maybe, but not the last.  He's no innocent.

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> On 2020-12-18 11:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > And in gratitude for his service we should all pitch in so he can own
> > it.
> >
> > I'll spot the first $5.  Who's next?
> >
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-600-2/
>
> How much would you pay to put Dan in a Buick?
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1936-buick-century/
>
> I'll take a Barracuda, or maybe a Healey 3000
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-plymouth-barracuda-12/
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-20/
>
> I knew they sold Innocentis in Canada, but had no idea there was a De
> Tomaso branded turbo version.
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[MBZ] OT: Priority for receiving the vaccine

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I completed a NY Times questionnaire to determine my place in line to
receive the coronavirus vaccine.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/12/03/opinion/covid-19-vaccine-timeline.html

It generated the following response:

"Based on your risk profile, we believe you’re in line behind *118.5
million *people across the United States.

When it comes to *Maryland*, we think you’re behind *2.2 million* others
who are at higher risk in your state.

And in *Montgomery County*, you’re behind *304,800* others."

I had no idea I was so relatively invulnerable.

As an incentive to complete the questionnaire, I will send a jar of pepper
jelly to whoever has the documented highest priority/lowest number of
people ahead in line.

Andrew S
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Re: [MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

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On 2020-12-18 11:01, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
And in gratitude for his service we should all pitch in so he can own 
it.


I'll spot the first $5.  Who's next?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-600-2/


How much would you pay to put Dan in a Buick?
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1936-buick-century/

I'll take a Barracuda, or maybe a Healey 3000
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1964-plymouth-barracuda-12/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-20/

I knew they sold Innocentis in Canada, but had no idea there was a De 
Tomaso branded turbo version.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1985-innocenti-detomaso-turbo/

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[MBZ] Replacement battery 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec

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My OEM battery is finally fading out after 7 years of use and 138K miles.
It's a German Varta.  Does anybody still sell these?  Any other
recommendations?  The replacement dealership Mercedes battery costs $235
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Re: [MBZ] Faux Tucker for a fraction of the cost

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Tucker's nephew thought it belonged in a museum, so he bought it and 
gave it to a museum, which subsequently sold it back into the private 
market?
I bet if he gave it to Gilmore instead of Yipsy it'd still be in a 
museum.


On 2020-12-18 11:03, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
of the genuine article on BAT.  You could fool/impress many of your 
friends.


https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-tucker-model-48-movie-car/


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Re: [MBZ] 560SL $8,900 No scammers, no fake checks

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That's a $5k car all day long.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

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That's pretty funny Andrew, good one!
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> For every nurse that collapses there are at least 5 who don't.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W126 300SD high-miler $1,500

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Interesting proposition.
Dash doesn't have a crack - that's a chasm.
"Engine keeps on running" = seller doesn't know how to shut it off.

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[MBZ] Faux Tucker for a fraction of the cost

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of the genuine article on BAT.  You could fool/impress many of your friends.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1948-tucker-model-48-movie-car/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-12-18
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[MBZ] Kleb needs this historic vehicle

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And in gratitude for his service we should all pitch in so he can own it.

I'll spot the first $5.  Who's next?

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1969-mercedes-benz-600-2/?utm_source=dm_medium=email_campaign=2020-12-18
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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

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For every nurse that collapses there are at least 5 who don't.

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> On 2020-12-18 11:35, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me
> > leave.  there is some small chance of anaphylaxis or other rxn with it
> > among some people so they watch the injectee after. i think this goes
> > with any vaccine.
>
> Same with my allergy shots, back when I was taking them.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

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On 2020-12-18 11:35, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me
leave.  there is some small chance of anaphylaxis or other rxn with it
among some people so they watch the injectee after. i think this goes
with any vaccine.


Same with my allergy shots, back when I was taking them.

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Re: [MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I had to sit for 15min after each injection before they would let me 
leave.  there is some small chance of anaphylaxis or other rxn with it 
among some people so they watch the injectee after. i think this goes 
with any vaccine.


All I know is I want to get it ASAP (if I have not already had it in the 
trial) and get on with life.


--FT

On 12/18/20 11:23 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

  Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19 VACCINE
https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ

How long until the tech overlords ban this one?
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[MBZ] OT AMA reverses course, HCL is OK to use to treat Wuhan Red Death!

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 I'll take the HCL and Zinc, and avoid the vax for now...

"RESOLVED, That our American Medical Association rescind its statement
calling for physicians 4 to stop prescribing hydroxychloroquine and
chloroquine until sufficient evidence becomes 5 available to conclusively
illustrate that the harm associated with use outweighs benefit early in 6 the
disease course. Implying that such treatment is inappropriate contradicts
AMA Policy 7 H-120.988, “Patient Access to Treatments Prescribed by Their
Physicians,” that addresses off 8 label prescriptions as appropriate in the
judgement of the prescribing physician (Directive to 9 Take Action); and be
it further10"

Scroll way down to page 18 to find this gem.

https://www.ama-assn.org/system/files/2020-10/nov20-handbook-addendum.pdf

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[MBZ] OT Vax fun

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

 Nurse Collapses on Live Television shortly after receiving COVID-19 VACCINE
https://youtu.be/Wrp4w0OQmAQ

How long until the tech overlords ban this one?
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Re: [MBZ] 1975 Mercedes-Benz E-Class,$3,500

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Looks like a good BaT flip candidate.  Too bad it's an auto.
-
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> Doesn't look half bad
>
> ://
> www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/735132114073024/?ref=search_code=undefined
>
>
> Seller's description
>
> Runs Great! Classic Benz! Lots of leg room and head room. Gear condition
> for travel. Issues: needs air conditioner replaced, small oil leak. Only
> driven occasionally.
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[MBZ] 560SL $8,900 No scammers, no fake checks

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https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-mercedes-560-sl/7248913714.html

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[MBZ] W126 300SD high-miler $1,500

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https://dayton.craigslist.org/cto/d/dayton-mercedes-300sd-turbo-diesel/7249001038.html

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Re: [MBZ] A quiz question for you

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How much do you get for the leeches?

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> Floyd says:
>
> >I got a month of gas free.
>
> That almost calls for a banned response.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Wright Brothers Day

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That's funny. It didn't show up for me the first time. I had to click the
link.

On Fri, Dec 18, 2020, 12:02 AM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> The one I embedded in the email, just like this one:
> https://1drv.ms/u/s!Aq8Oa078p_LjvTvXJoM_2WEfGxvB?e=jrXLRv
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 8:18 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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>
> > What photo?
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 4:56 PM OK Don via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The Greatest Photograph of All Time?
> > > The photograph above was taken by John Thomas Daniels, a member of the
> > U.S.
> > > Life-Saving Station in Kill Devil Hills, North Carolina. He recorded
> the
> > > first powered flight in history, on December 17, 1903.
> > >
> > > Daniels had never seen a camera before, and later said that he was so
> > > excited by seeing the *Flyer* rising that he nearly forgot Orville
> > Wright's
> > > instructions to squeeze the bulb triggering the shutter.
> > >
> > > Thankfully he remembered, and took one of the greatest photographs in
> > > history, capturing the exact moment of a truly world-changing event.
> > > *Happy Wright Brothers Day *
> > > Today we commemorate the first successful flights in a
> heavier-than-air,
> > > mechanically propelled airplane, that were made by Orville and Wilbur
> > > Wright on December 17, 1903, at Kitty Hawk, North Carolina.
> > >
> > > Since 1959, as declared by U.S. President Dwight D. Eisenhower,
> December
> > 17
> > > has been recognized nationally as Wright Brothers Day.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > OK Don
> > >
> > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >
> > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> > > Wernher
> > > Von Braun
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
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[MBZ] 1975 Mercedes-Benz E-Class,$3,500

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Doesn't look half bad

://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/735132114073024/?ref=search_code=undefined


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Runs Great! Classic Benz! Lots of leg room and head room. Gear condition 
for travel. Issues: needs air conditioner replaced, small oil leak. Only 
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[MBZ] This one is not as ratty 2006 Mercedes r350 engine won't run as is $$1500

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   A 500 drop-in?


   Seller's description

Price firm. Firm firm Bring a tow truck and cash .. I think its timing 
Someone say engine bad As is sale for 1500


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[MBZ] 1996 Mercedes e300 Diesel - $2,400

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-1996-mercedes-e300/7248849691.html

1996 Mercedes e300 Diesel for sale. 233k miles. Runs good interior is in 
great shape. Will need a timing chain tensioner.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Mitch Haley via Mercedes]

On 2020-12-17 20:37, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Just outside of DC: 1" snow followed by 1" cold rain, then polished off
with another 0.5" *soupcon* of snow.  Oh The Humanity.


Here in MI, got almost an inch of dry powder a couple of days ago.
My driveway is snow covered and hard underneath, but yesterday the dirt 
road was wet and muddy.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting Satellite Tech

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

Drones are slow, tedious, compared to sitting at your desk and sending in
your order to the satellite company, and the next day you get your images
back for the entire county, which you can dissect at your leisure...
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Fri, Dec 18, 2020 at 8:19 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> That’s already happening with “drones” surveilling properties for tax
> violations
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
> > On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That's pretty nasty.  I wonder if a jammer would be illegal.  Funny how
> > they try to couch the capability as something benign, that scientist will
> > use to "save the earth", but they also do talk about military use.  Now
> > imagine your local tax auditor or county building code enforcement uses
> > this to inspect your property and notify you that your new shed is out of
> > code, or your property taxes are going up because the value of your
> > property is higher than they thought.  Even worse, you own a very nice
> > piece of property in the country, and some enviro wackos decide you've
> got
> > some protected species that only they can protect adequately and you end
> up
> > fighting off The State and lawsuits and all kinds of harassment, because
> > your privacy can be invaded at any time.
> > -
> > Max
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 6:06 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> https://futurism.com/new-satellite-buildings-day-night
> >>
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting Satellite Tech

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

That’s already happening with “drones” surveilling properties for tax 
violations 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 18, 2020, at 8:04 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> That's pretty nasty.  I wonder if a jammer would be illegal.  Funny how
> they try to couch the capability as something benign, that scientist will
> use to "save the earth", but they also do talk about military use.  Now
> imagine your local tax auditor or county building code enforcement uses
> this to inspect your property and notify you that your new shed is out of
> code, or your property taxes are going up because the value of your
> property is higher than they thought.  Even worse, you own a very nice
> piece of property in the country, and some enviro wackos decide you've got
> some protected species that only they can protect adequately and you end up
> fighting off The State and lawsuits and all kinds of harassment, because
> your privacy can be invaded at any time.
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 6:06 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> https://futurism.com/new-satellite-buildings-day-night
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Interesting Satellite Tech

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

That's pretty nasty.  I wonder if a jammer would be illegal.  Funny how
they try to couch the capability as something benign, that scientist will
use to "save the earth", but they also do talk about military use.  Now
imagine your local tax auditor or county building code enforcement uses
this to inspect your property and notify you that your new shed is out of
code, or your property taxes are going up because the value of your
property is higher than they thought.  Even worse, you own a very nice
piece of property in the country, and some enviro wackos decide you've got
some protected species that only they can protect adequately and you end up
fighting off The State and lawsuits and all kinds of harassment, because
your privacy can be invaded at any time.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> https://futurism.com/new-satellite-buildings-day-night
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Re: [MBZ] engine swap survey

[Meade Dillon via Mercedes]

I'd go for two wagons, one can never have too many wagons.

Probably close to a peak value for the 123 wagon though, so if you wanted
to recoup your "investment" on BaT, now would be the time.
-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Weather

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The weather guessers claimed it was going to be like 6F last night but its 20F 
just before 7am so I don't think it got that cold.
The ASV doesn't have a clutch on the hydraulic system. The machine is hydro 
static so the engine just turns a great big hydraulic pump but it has to turn 
it all the time so when its cold out and all the oil is thick it starts mighty 
hard...
-Curt

On Thursday, December 17, 2020, 8:46:38 PM EST, Buggered Benzmail 
 wrote:  
 
 E cole ow dah!  Heah be inna foties night 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 8:26 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Just got the call, we'll be out grooming tomorrow night. I got the ASV 
> started yesterday but it needed 3 hours of heat first. I think it might have 
> some gelled fuel. I put some goop in it and let it run for an hour. I'll plug 
> it in tomorrow after lunch. It should be fine by 6...
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Thu, Dec 17, 2020 at 8:15 PM, Kaleb Striplin via 
>Mercedes wrote:  We got a dusting here over the 
>weekend.  Futher south got a few inches.
> 
>> On 12/17/2020 3:35 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Anybody else get snow? We got more than a foot. Light powdery stuff, easy to 
>> move.
>> Angie got some wooden snowshoes a couple months ago at a thrift store, she's 
>> loving tromping around in this stuff. There is something so much more 
>> satisfying about wooden snowshoes than the modern aluminum and plastic ones.
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Statins

[Clay Monroe via Mercedes]

It was sort of a running joke that Dad would outlive us all.  He came from a 
mix of very hearty and very prone to heart disease stock.  Had he taken after 
his mother’s side, he would have died before retirement.  As it was, his 
father’s genetics tended toward outliving your mental capabilities.  So, he 
muddled through massive coronary issues and other health trouble from Viet Nam 
toxics.

What did him in was not the cancer, but the imbecile chinese breast cancer gal 
who had no clue how to handle gerontologic patients.   Complete medical 
incompetence that garnered the attention of the hospital and oncology 
departments, which chastised her.  That was four months into neglecting to 
implement common standards of care in his treatment.

Mom is still going strong at 91.  Out in the rain pulling weeds in her garden 
this past week.



Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur

> On Dec 17, 2020, at 6:15 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Sadly, there are bad doctors as well as bad mechanics
> 
> Sorry to hear about your dad Clay.  My mom is hanging in there at 97, still 
> sharp but failing physically.  My father died six months after a bad heart 
> attack in 1976.
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Re: [MBZ] engine swap survey

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah the body shop is still waiting for the latest from the independent
adjuster.

On Thu, Dec 17, 2020, 8:11 PM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2020-12-17 18:47, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
> >  Take the insurance check for the 83, buy it as salvage and take the
> > motor and transmission out for later use.
>
> I'd ask them what the buyback price is to save them the hassle of
> hauling it to the auction house. (and then maybe counteroffer 1/2-2/3 if
> their offer is excessive)
>
> The problem this year is insurance auction prices have been higher than
> normal. Did you see that red W124 that Kaleb wanted at CoPart?
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