Re: [MBZ] Best MB cabrio - 124 vs 208 vs 209?

2021-05-06 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
The CLK certainly "looks" like a coupe version of the E class, but I don't know 
if they share any common parts. If they do, the E class W210 and W211 are very 
robust, if mundane cars. I would expect the 208/209 to be too. Dan or Jaime may 
have a more informed opinion.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] Best MB cabrio - 124 vs 208 vs 209?

Good evening

A friend is considering a classic convertible, either a Saab or MB.

He was interested in a 2001 W208 (A208, I guess, based on the W202) CLK430 
convertible. Or maybe a later 209. I suggested he consider a W124 cabrio. IMO 
more comfortable and more reliable, just need to be aware of the potential 
wiring nightmare.

So, the question is which of the three options is best, and if it has to be a 
208/209, which is the lesser evil? I don't think he'd consider an SL, by the 
way, but might be convinced if a compelling case could be made.

Thanks for any and all pointers.

D.
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[MBZ] Best MB cabrio - 124 vs 208 vs 209?

2021-05-06 Thread David Bruckmann via Mercedes
Good evening

A friend is considering a classic convertible, either a Saab or MB. 

He was interested in a 2001 W208 (A208, I guess, based on the W202) CLK430 
convertible. Or maybe a later 209. I suggested he consider a W124 cabrio. IMO 
more comfortable and more reliable, just need to be aware of the potential 
wiring nightmare.

So, the question is which of the three options is best, and if it has to be a 
208/209, which is the lesser evil? I don't think he'd consider an SL, by the 
way, but might be convinced if a compelling case could be made. 

Thanks for any and all pointers. 

D. 
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[MBZ] OT: broken house window

2021-05-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
So one of the windows in the bathroom got hit with a rock or hailstone -
could have been either - and the tempered glass shattered but is still in
place. We kind of like the effect actually, and would like to preserve it
as is.
Any ideas of how to do that? adhesive film of some sort? Glue of some kind?
Just put another pane of glass (or acrylic/lexan) over it on the outside?

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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

2021-05-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
built 12/1973, so no CAT.  California car.  I am third owner.  Records from 
1987 on, when second owner purchased.  I got it in 2012 from the son of the 
decease owner.  It had 203k on the clock then, it has 215k-ish now.  Serviced 
by local indy who sorted out D-jet issues and installed fresh injectors in 
2017.  He had done the fuel pump a few years before.  I collected all the 
things that I thought it may need or did want fixed, like pass seat cushions, 
replacement for AC compressor, … amounting to a pick up load of 
extra/spare/replacement for the car.  Updates were limited by cash flow, so 
that is why I have stuff in boxes.  Currently sporting Euro lights.  I have the 
DOT lamps in a box.  Replacement lenses for the rear lights in case originals 
get hurt.  Around six or seven large Rubbermaid tubs of R107 things.

Silber Grun body, Dunkel Grun top and hubcaps. Green leather seats (soft 
without cracks) and interior.  The center console was replaced because prior 
owner had butchered it to install Sony radio and in car Cell. Brown soft top 
that works but is getting old, driver side small window has a tear in plastic.  
Got minimal usage in 2019, as I was out half the year.  No usage in 2020 (on 
battery tender).  Got some miles on the clock in 2021, but sitting has made it 
need a tune up to put it back into full service.  Did get oil and filter change 
around 100 miles ago.  Been using non alcohol fuel since 2015 because it is 
less volatile and reduces known hot engine start issues.  Trigger points 
replaced with rebuilt, MAP is good, Djet brain was replaced.  There is a spare 
in the boxes.  Transmission was last serviced 2017 and only 2500 miles since. 
Cooling system rebuilt.

 Been garage kept most of its life.  No accidents while I owned it.  Some 
evidence of prior panel replacement.  Tires are good, alignment done in 2017 at 
211k miles.  Brakes are good, and I have replacement rotors and pads for when 
the current things age out.  This is NOT BaT car, but a reliable rolling 
Preservation Class award car (2x).  It does need the cross over pipe section of 
exhaust replaced, from there back is new since 2015.  Headers and seals 
replaced around that time.

Does 85mph for extended (200 miles) periods with ease.  Does not blow cold air, 
at all.  Does have not original Becker Mexico that pulls in stations when it 
wants.  Power antenna does work, but does not pull in signal well, so has been 
unpowered.  I collected all manner of original dealer literature (sales, paint 
brochure, and on and on)  Even have matchbox example 107 in green paint in the 
glove box.

At the moment it will be included in the estate sale of household goods over 
Memorial Day weekend.

clay monroe

1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
2014 ‘yota Highlander - Haggis

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> On May 6, 2021, at 6:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> OK, now I am interested.  Tell me more about this car you are selling.
> 
> On 5/6/2021 8:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am selling my Green on Green on Green 1973 SL for maybe half that. It runs 
>> well, good battery and tires, with a pickup load of extra and replacement 
>> parts.  A pair of preservation Awards from MBCA and all manner of cool 
>> display paraphernalia for when you take it for auto shows.
>> 
>> Clay
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Coumadin and Xarelto have different mechanisms of action  I believe, and while 
I don't know much about the actual condition you have, I would assume coumadin 
is more effective in that situation that other anti-coagulants. 

Same reason the blood clots that are associated with the J vaccine should not 
be treated with heparin, which is the normal "first line" action for clotting 
issues.  Not sure of the mechanism of the formation of that particular type of 
clot, but it occurs along with suppressed platelet count, and heparin works by 
preventing platelet conglomeration if I remember my med tech training from 
forty years ago.  Totally ineffective, and possibly could worsen the condition 
instead of treat it.
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Re: [MBZ] 2002 S430 - 101k miles - $5,999

2021-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
But it at least has a contrasting lack interior.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 4:40 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Another boring silver car but looks to be in nice condition.
>
>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/plainfield-mercedes-benz-s430/7317718564.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

2021-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes

OK, now I am interested.  Tell me more about this car you are selling.

On 5/6/2021 8:03 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:

I am selling my Green on Green on Green 1973 SL for maybe half that. It runs 
well, good battery and tires, with a pickup load of extra and replacement 
parts.  A pair of preservation Awards from MBCA and all manner of cool display 
paraphernalia for when you take it for auto shows.

Clay


inter urinas et faeces nascimur


On May 6, 2021, at 7:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  
wrote:

I would offer $10k

https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/camden-mercedes-450sl-1978/7317678949.html

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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Yes, it is MUCH more expensive.  It is about $600 for a 30 day supply.  
With my insurance it was running around $180 per month. I signed up for 
some program from the manufacturer and was able to get it for $10 a 
month.  In any case, after a little google searching, Xarelto is not 
effective for patients with whatever syndrome is that I have.  That 
would explain why the doctor is switching my medication.


On 5/6/2021 8:00 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

The new stuff requires much less testing, which is also expensive and
profitable. It also has fewer side effects, like bleeding complications,
and it is generally better at preventing most sorts of clots than warfarin.
Antiphospholipid Ab syndrome is one of the few things where the new drugs
have not proven categorically superior to warfarin.

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 5:57 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:


Maybe the old warfarin based stuff has a history of working, where the new
stuff is a profit center?

clay

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.




On May 6, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <

mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.

They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
that does.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
There is more wood that came over the border in PNW than is harvested locally.  
Most of the mills in WA closed down ages ago, and the lumber companies have 
been pulling back from harvests.  At least that was the case in 2019.  Not 
being in residence the past year, I have not been witness to current mills.  
The processor near my mother’s home was bare of completed/dried/cut lumber and 
the yard was minus the normal inventory of logs for this time of year.

The scrap market in this neck of the woods is a monopoly of Schnitzer which 
sells crushed cars to the CCP.  I am not seeing the standard traffic of trucks 
headed out with dead/squished cars that I used to.  Not been hitting the PnP, 
as I have nothing I need to get there.  Also, they have clamped down on how 
many people are allowed in the yards.  May not be both getting or processing as 
many cars as prior to the current plague.

clay 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 1:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good question. The lumber shortage is mostly a shortage of finished
> product. Supplies of timber, especially in the southern US forests, are
> plentiful. There *are* some issues in Canada from what I've read.
> 
> It's the finished lumber that is in short supply. Many sawmills shut
> down expecting vast drop-offs in demand due to COVID and lockdowns. The
> opposite happened, and they haven't caught up yet.
> 
> If it's the same with steel, and the problem is that the mills are not
> running, then they probably aren't buying scrap either so scrap prices
> could conceivably be low even if demand for finished steel is high.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

2021-05-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
I am selling my Green on Green on Green 1973 SL for maybe half that. It runs 
well, good battery and tires, with a pickup load of extra and replacement 
parts.  A pair of preservation Awards from MBCA and all manner of cool display 
paraphernalia for when you take it for auto shows.

Clay


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> On May 6, 2021, at 7:04 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would offer $10k
> 
> https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/camden-mercedes-450sl-1978/7317678949.html
> 
> -- 
> --FT


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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The new stuff requires much less testing, which is also expensive and
profitable. It also has fewer side effects, like bleeding complications,
and it is generally better at preventing most sorts of clots than warfarin.
Antiphospholipid Ab syndrome is one of the few things where the new drugs
have not proven categorically superior to warfarin.

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 5:57 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Maybe the old warfarin based stuff has a history of working, where the new
> stuff is a profit center?
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
> > On May 6, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
> that does.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Maybe the old warfarin based stuff has a history of working, where the new 
stuff is a profit center?

clay 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 6:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots. They 
> put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in the 
> first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it out. 
> Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I 
> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are 
> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to 
> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will ask 
> but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art blood 
> thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication that does. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
Prasugrel is a platelet inhibitor. Warfarin is a vitamin K-dependent
clotting factor inhibitor (II, VII, IX, X). Xarelto and other doacs inhibit
specific clotting factors (eg Xa and II). All of these factors and
platelets play roles in the cascade leading to blood clot formation.

On Thu, May 6, 2021, 2:04 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  It's not that you don't clot, it's that clotting is reduced. I suppose
> different medications act differently but at least with the Prasugrel that
> I use I just bleed a little more when I get cut. It's not dramatic which is
> good because I cut myself a lot...
> -Curt
>
> On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 11:09:49 AM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>  So if you accidentally get a cut or severe injury, you won't bleed out (if
> you have the antidote and a tourniquet ready).
> -
> Max
> Charleston SC
>
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 11:06 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > That is my understanding. With the new ones there is not a way to reverse
> > it quickly, have to wait for it to wear off. With the older ones you can.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > > On May 6, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does this thinner also have the advantage of an antidote (probably not
> > the right word) that reverses the effect on the event of an emergency or
> > surgery?  I think the newer medications do not enjoy this feature.
> > >
> > > Max Dillon
> > > Charleston SC
> > >
> > >
> > > May 6, 2021 9:25:55 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> > >
> > >> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody
> is
> > not
> > >> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
> > >> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both
> > seem
> > >> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied
> > but
> > >> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both
> drugs
> > in
> > >> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to
> > be
> > >> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood
> > clots.
> > >>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this
> happened
> > in
> > >>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to
> > figure it
> > >>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns
> > out I
> > >>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome.
> They
> > are
> > >>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require
> > me to
> > >>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I
> > will
> > >>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the
> art
> > >>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper
> medication
> > >>> that does.
> > >>>
> > >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

Last week I saw the local yard had a $125/ton sign up.
It got down around $35-50 last year.
Texted my friendly local RX7 dismantler, and he said prices at the good 
yards were $85 last year and $150 now.
$35 vs $85 is a joke, but $125 five miles away on the road I live on 
beats $150 25 miles away.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Never assume a journalist really understands what he's writing.

Allan

Curt Raymond via Mercedes  writes:

>  "After bottoming out around $460 last year, US benchmark hot-rolled coil 
> steel prices are now sitting at around $1,500 a ton, a record high that is 
> nearly triple the 20-year average."
> I have difficulty understanding this sentence, if $460 was the bottom and 
> $1500 is 3x the 20 year average the "bottom" when steel "bottomed out" last 
> year was pretty much at the 20 year average...
> Hype article...
>
> -Curt
>

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 And they're willing to take on jobs the big mills won't or can't. As you say 
they're geared for efficiency so they only take trees of a certain size, I 
think 12-18" at the butt or something like that.When we had the logging done on 
our place they cut some huge spruce trees that marked the line. Those trees had 
been planted as a WPA project in the '30s and were around 36" at the butt. The 
big mills wouldn't take them, the Amish fell all over themselves to get them. 
Paid cash...

-Curt

On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 5:15:30 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote:  
 
 > The Amish built a small sawmill... They appear to be doing a gangbuster's 
 > business now...

I should hope so.  They're uniquely qualified to react quickly.  Mainline 
business has
been all about efficiency for a long time now.  Cheaper in steady state, but 
much slower
to react to emergencies, with huge capital startup expenses.  The Amish, who 
are hard
workers and don't use much automation, usually on a smaller scale, could 
probably start
a mill quicker than anybody else.  They SHOULD be making bank right now.

-- Jim

  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The Amish built a small sawmill... They appear to be doing a gangbuster's 
> business now...

I should hope so.  They're uniquely qualified to react quickly.  Mainline 
business has
been all about efficiency for a long time now.  Cheaper in steady state, but 
much slower
to react to emergencies, with huge capital startup expenses.  The Amish, who 
are hard
workers and don't use much automation, usually on a smaller scale, could 
probably start
a mill quicker than anybody else.  They SHOULD be making bank right now.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 Both steel and sawmills have been reducing for the last few years. Lumber 
production has been in decline for 10-15 years. It's a big deal to restart a 
mill, in some cases the equipment and employees just don't exist anymore.
The Amish built a small sawmill in Fort Fairfield, Maine last year (or the year 
before, I forget). They appear to be doing a gangbuster's business now...
-Curt

On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 4:40:42 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 Good question. The lumber shortage is mostly a shortage of finished
product. Supplies of timber, especially in the southern US forests, are
plentiful. There *are* some issues in Canada from what I've read.

It's the finished lumber that is in short supply. Many sawmills shut
down expecting vast drop-offs in demand due to COVID and lockdowns. The
opposite happened, and they haven't caught up yet.

If it's the same with steel, and the problem is that the mills are not
running, then they probably aren't buying scrap either so scrap prices
could conceivably be low even if demand for finished steel is high.

Allan

OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/investing/steel-shortage-stocks-bubble/index.html
>
> I wonder if scrap steel prices are going up as well? Time to sell those
> scrap cars?
>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 "After bottoming out around $460 last year, US benchmark hot-rolled coil steel 
prices are now sitting at around $1,500 a ton, a record high that is nearly 
triple the 20-year average."
I have difficulty understanding this sentence, if $460 was the bottom and $1500 
is 3x the 20 year average the "bottom" when steel "bottomed out" last year was 
pretty much at the 20 year average...
Hype article...

-Curt

On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 4:13:28 PM EDT, OK Don via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/investing/steel-shortage-stocks-bubble/index.html

I wonder if scrap steel prices are going up as well? Time to sell those
scrap cars?

-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 It's not that you don't clot, it's that clotting is reduced. I suppose 
different medications act differently but at least with the Prasugrel that I 
use I just bleed a little more when I get cut. It's not dramatic which is good 
because I cut myself a lot...
-Curt

On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 11:09:49 AM EDT, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 So if you accidentally get a cut or severe injury, you won't bleed out (if
you have the antidote and a tourniquet ready).
-
Max
Charleston SC


On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 11:06 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is my understanding. With the new ones there is not a way to reverse
> it quickly, have to wait for it to wear off. With the older ones you can.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 6, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does this thinner also have the advantage of an antidote (probably not
> the right word) that reverses the effect on the event of an emergency or
> surgery?  I think the newer medications do not enjoy this feature.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > May 6, 2021 9:25:55 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is
> not
> >> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
> >> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both
> seem
> >> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied
> but
> >> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs
> in
> >> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to
> be
> >> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
> >>
> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood
> clots.
> >>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened
> in
> >>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to
> figure it
> >>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns
> out I
> >>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They
> are
> >>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require
> me to
> >>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I
> will
> >>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
> >>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
> >>> that does.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
WSJ yesterday said lumber prices were up 280% over a year. 

We should be parting out our houses!  I no what I got!

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 6, 2021, at 4:40 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Good question. The lumber shortage is mostly a shortage of finished
> product. Supplies of timber, especially in the southern US forests, are
> plentiful. There *are* some issues in Canada from what I've read.
> 
> It's the finished lumber that is in short supply. Many sawmills shut
> down expecting vast drop-offs in demand due to COVID and lockdowns. The
> opposite happened, and they haven't caught up yet.
> 
> If it's the same with steel, and the problem is that the mills are not
> running, then they probably aren't buying scrap either so scrap prices
> could conceivably be low even if demand for finished steel is high.
> 
> Allan
> 
> OK Don via Mercedes  writes:
> 
>> https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/investing/steel-shortage-stocks-bubble/index.html
>> 
>> I wonder if scrap steel prices are going up as well? Time to sell those
>> scrap cars?
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Good question. The lumber shortage is mostly a shortage of finished
product. Supplies of timber, especially in the southern US forests, are
plentiful. There *are* some issues in Canada from what I've read.

It's the finished lumber that is in short supply. Many sawmills shut
down expecting vast drop-offs in demand due to COVID and lockdowns. The
opposite happened, and they haven't caught up yet.

If it's the same with steel, and the problem is that the mills are not
running, then they probably aren't buying scrap either so scrap prices
could conceivably be low even if demand for finished steel is high.

Allan

OK Don via Mercedes  writes:

> https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/investing/steel-shortage-stocks-bubble/index.html
>
> I wonder if scrap steel prices are going up as well? Time to sell those
> scrap cars?
>
> -- 
> OK Don
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!

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[MBZ] 2002 S430 - 101k miles - $5,999

2021-05-06 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Another boring silver car but looks to be in nice condition.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/plainfield-mercedes-benz-s430/7317718564.html

Allan

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[MBZ] OT: Steel prices have tripled

2021-05-06 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/06/investing/steel-shortage-stocks-bubble/index.html

I wonder if scrap steel prices are going up as well? Time to sell those
scrap cars?

-- 
OK Don

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pause and reflect." Mark Twain

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Re: [MBZ] Let's go salmon fishing -- 2016 MERCEDES E350 4MATIC 54K MILES - $29, 950 (S. RALEIGH / GARNER)

2021-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
All NYC apartments were painted that color in the 40s and 50s.

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>
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/ctd/d/raleigh-2016-mercedes-e350-4matic-54k/7317433670.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Never wreaked or dented -- 2003 Mercedes E-500 E Class - $5, 495 (Mount Holly)

2021-05-06 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
*Car always garage kept, all maintenance kept.*

Never wreaked or denied.

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> What hath Benz wreaked?
>
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/mount-holly-2003-mercedes-500-class/7317488518.html
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Re: [MBZ] Feb 2019. Ran at that time with booster box Mercedes 450SL (1978) - $9, 000 (Camden, SC)

2021-05-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Appears to have Euro bumpers.  Import, or did someone swap bumpers?  I
can't tell from the dash pic if it has the evil chrysler servo or not.
-
Max
Charleston SC


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> I would offer $10k
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
So if you accidentally get a cut or severe injury, you won't bleed out (if
you have the antidote and a tourniquet ready).
-
Max
Charleston SC


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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> That is my understanding. With the new ones there is not a way to reverse
> it quickly, have to wait for it to wear off. With the older ones you can.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On May 6, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Does this thinner also have the advantage of an antidote (probably not
> the right word) that reverses the effect on the event of an emergency or
> surgery?  I think the newer medications do not enjoy this feature.
> >
> > Max Dillon
> > Charleston SC
> >
> >
> > May 6, 2021 9:25:55 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>:
> >
> >> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is
> not
> >> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
> >> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both
> seem
> >> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied
> but
> >> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs
> in
> >> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to
> be
> >> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
> >>
> >>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood
> clots.
> >>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened
> in
> >>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to
> figure it
> >>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns
> out I
> >>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They
> are
> >>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require
> me to
> >>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I
> will
> >>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
> >>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
> >>> that does.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That is my understanding. With the new ones there is not a way to reverse it 
quickly, have to wait for it to wear off. With the older ones you can. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2021, at 8:56 AM, Max Dillon via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Does this thinner also have the advantage of an antidote (probably not the 
> right word) that reverses the effect on the event of an emergency or surgery? 
>  I think the newer medications do not enjoy this feature.
> 
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
> 
> 
> May 6, 2021 9:25:55 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :
> 
>> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
>> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
>> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
>> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
>> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
>> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
>> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
>>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
>>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
>>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
>>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
>>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
>>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
>>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
>>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
>>> that does.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
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[MBZ] OT More Good News in the war on the virus

2021-05-06 Thread Meade Dillon via Mercedes
Peer-reviewed study in the American Journal of Therapeutics has identified
a very effective drug for use against the Wuhan Red Death (aka COVID-19).
The drug not only will help to prevent infection, it can be used to treat
an infection, and also is extremely effective for those patients with
post-COVID-19 syndrome (lingering and sometimes debilitating condition
after infection).

https://journals.lww.com/americantherapeutics/fulltext/2021/0/review_of_the_emerging_evidence_demonstrating_the.4.aspx?fbclid=IwAR2lQQmnlvALejyMjPHoWQiRJxY9AoHCPljTO9uh8CTh4QkK_odmDmTXSZI

Selected highlights from this study are shared below.
Conclusions:

Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of
ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant
reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral
clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials
report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular
use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution
campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and
mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19
has been identified.

Exposure prophylaxis studies of ivermectin's ability to prevent
transmission of COVID-19

Data are also now available showing large and statistically significant
decreases in the transmission of COVID-19 among human subjects based on
data from 3 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) and 5 observational
controlled trials (OCTs) with 4 of the 8 (2 of them RCTs) published in
peer-reviewed journals.40–
Clinical studies on the efficacy of ivermectin in treating mildly ill
outpatients

Currently, 7 trials that include a total of more than 3000 patients with
mild outpatient illness have been completed, a set composed of 7 RCTs and 4
case series.49–60

The largest, a double-blinded RCT by Mahmud49 was conducted in Dhaka,
Bangladesh, and targeted 400 patients with 363 patients completing the
study. In this study, as in many other of the clinical studies to be
reviewed, either a tetracycline (doxycycline) or macrolide antibiotic
(azithromycin) was included as part of the treatment. The importance of
including antibiotics such as doxycycline or azithromycin is unclear;
however, both tetracycline and macrolide antibiotics have recognized
anti-inflammatory, immunomodulatory, and even antiviral effects (58–61).
Although the posted data from this study does not specify the amount of
mildly ill outpatients versus hospitalized patients treated, important
clinical outcomes were profoundly affected, with increased rates of early
improvement (60.7% vs. 44.4% *P* < 0.03) and decreased rates of clinical
deterioration (8.7% vs. 17.8%, *P* < 0.02). Given that mildly ill
outpatients mainly comprised the study cohort, only 2 deaths were observed
(both in the control group).
Clinical studies of the efficacy of ivermectin in hospitalized patients

Studies of ivermectin among more severely ill hospitalized patients include
6 RCTs, 5 OCTs, and a database analysis study.45,51–53,63–70

The largest RCT in hospitalized patients was performed concurrent with the
prophylaxis study reviewed above by Elgazzar et al.45 Four hundred patients
were randomized among 4 treatment groups of 100 patients each. Groups 1 and
2 included mild/moderate illness patients alone, with group 1 treated with
one dose 0.4 mg/kg ivermectin plus standard of care (SOC) and group 2
received hydroxychloroquine 400 mg twice on day 1 then 200 mg twice daily
for 5 days plus standard of care. There was a statistically significant
lower rate of progression in the ivermectin-treated group (1% vs. 22%, *P*
< 0.001), with no deaths and 4 deaths, respectively. Groups 3 and 4
included only severely ill patients, with group 3 again treated with a
single dose of 0.4 mg/kg plus SOC, whereas group 4 received
hydroxychloroquine plus SOC. In this severely ill subgroup, the differences
in outcomes were even larger, with lower rates of progression 4% versus 30%
and mortality 2% versus 20% (*P* < 0.001).
Ivermectin in post-COVID-19 syndrome

Increasing reports of persistent, vexing, and even disabling symptoms after
recovery from acute COVID-19 have been reported and that many have termed
the condition as “Long COVID” and patients as “long haulers,” estimated to
occur in approximately 10%–30% of cases.71–73 Generally considered as a
postviral syndrome consisting of a chronic and sometimes disabling
constellation of symptoms which include, in order, fatigue, shortness of
breath, joint pains, and chest pain. Many patients describe their most
disabling symptom as impaired memory and concentration, often with extreme
fatigue, described as “brain fog,” and is highly suggestive of the
condition myalgic encephalomyelitis/chronic fatigue syndrome, a condition
well reported to begin after viral infections, in particular with
Epstein–Barr virus. Although no specific treatments have 

Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Yes and no. My father was on warfarin for a mechanical heart valve and even 
though he checked his INR monthly as recommended, it did not end well for him- 
INR grossly elevated resulting in brain stem bleed and death.

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> On May 6, 2021, at 9:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have several work associates, and my mother-in-law is on Coumadin. It 
> seems like once they get you dialed in by taking those couple of blood tests, 
> you’re good to go.
> Mind the sawbones. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 6, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  I've been taking Prasugrel for the last 2 and a bit years. It doesn't 
>> require regular testing for which I am thankful. 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 9:25:55 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
>> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
>> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
>> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
>> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
>> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
>> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
>>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
>>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
>>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
>>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
>>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
>>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
>>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
>>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
>>> that does.
>>> 
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What hath Benz wreaked?

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I would offer $10k

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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Does this thinner also have the advantage of an antidote (probably not the 
right word) that reverses the effect on the event of an emergency or surgery?  
I think the newer medications do not enjoy this feature.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


May 6, 2021 9:25:55 AM Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes :

> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
> 
> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
>> that does.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
I’m going to ask the doctor why they are changing medications but I assume 
there would be a good reason for it. 

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> On May 6, 2021, at 8:39 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I have several work associates, and my mother-in-law is on Coumadin. It 
> seems like once they get you dialed in by taking those couple of blood tests, 
> you’re good to go.
> Mind the sawbones. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 6, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>>  I've been taking Prasugrel for the last 2 and a bit years. It doesn't 
>> require regular testing for which I am thankful. 
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>>   On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 9:25:55 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:  
>> 
>> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
>> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
>> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
>> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
>> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
>> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
>> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
>> 
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
>>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
>>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
>>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
>>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
>>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
>>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
>>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
>>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
>>> that does.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
I have several work associates, and my mother-in-law is on Coumadin. It seems 
like once they get you dialed in by taking those couple of blood tests, you’re 
good to go.
Mind the sawbones. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 6, 2021, at 6:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>  I've been taking Prasugrel for the last 2 and a bit years. It doesn't 
> require regular testing for which I am thankful. 
> 
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 9:25:55 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:  
> 
> The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
> as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
> Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
> to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
> until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
> a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
> for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.
> 
>> On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
>> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
>> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
>> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
>> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
>> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
>> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
>> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
>> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
>> that does.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 I've been taking Prasugrel for the last 2 and a bit years. It doesn't require 
regular testing for which I am thankful. 

-Curt

On Thursday, May 6, 2021, 9:25:55 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
> that does.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
The evidence for the DOACs like Xarelto for antiphopholipid antibody is not
as strong as the evidence for warfarin. There is some suggestion that
Xarelto etc may not work as well for arterial clots, though they both seem
to work OK for venous clots. Anyway it has not been super well studied but
until there is a good study showing comparable efficacy with both drugs in
a large number of patients, the recommendation will likely continue to be
for warfarin. At least that is my understanding.

On Thu, May 6, 2021 at 6:18 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots.
> They put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in
> the first place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it
> out. Went back to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I
> evidently have something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are
> moving me from Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to
> get blood tests weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will
> ask but not sure why they would take me off the newer state of the art
> blood thinner that requires no testing to this older cheaper medication
> that does.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Sounds like a good question for the doc

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On 5/6/21 9:17 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots. They 
put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in the first 
place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it out. Went back 
to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I evidently have 
something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are moving me from 
Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to get blood tests 
weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will ask but not sure why 
they would take me off the newer state of the art blood thinner that requires 
no testing to this older cheaper medication that does.

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[MBZ] Blood thinners etc

2021-05-06 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
As you may recall a while back I was in the hospital due to blood clots. They 
put me on Xarelto. It was still a mystery as to why this happened in the first 
place. My primary doctor sent me to a cancer doctor to figure it out. Went back 
to him for the 2nd time last week to run tests. Turns out I evidently have 
something called antiphospholid antibody syndrome. They are moving me from 
Xarelto to Coumadin for some reason which will require me to get blood tests 
weekly for a few weeks then monthly after. I guess I will ask but not sure why 
they would take me off the newer state of the art blood thinner that requires 
no testing to this older cheaper medication that does. 

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