Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Boeing, flying windows into the ground.

Oil out of AK is still sitting just under $70.   Maybe the price will creep up 
now that there is less fuel making its way to the Mid-Atlantic.  Probably not.  
Bakken remains reasonable.  West TX the same.  Could see a replay of the oil 
mess of last May.  Fuel prices rise, while crude backs up into tanks

Clay


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> On May 9, 2021, at 9:20 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> Excellent points.
> Imagine if all the Bombers built at Willow Run Plant were built by Windows
> based  computers...

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Clay via Mercedes
That would resolve a host of issues for the cruise ship industry.  AK is going 
to have a massive bust if the boats full of tourist fail to show up for yet 
another year.  Thing were just starting to look up after six years of 
recession, and then the current plague sucked a massive number of jobs in 
tourism out with the tides.  Canada does not allow boats to transit or dock, so 
anybody getting on a boat in Seattle, with Jones act dead, would be most 
welcome in GWN.  Not sure how much more transport of goods northbound would 
make for better living there as well.

Then again, the boats heading south are pretty much deadheading garbage/trash 
and recycling.  Not much of commercial value otherwise.


clay
 Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical 
minority, and rapidly promoted by mainstream media, which holds forth the 
proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a piece of shit by the 
clean end.



> On May 9, 2021, at 8:27 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if they (government) will suspend the Jones Act.
> 
> 
> Rick

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
Excellent points.
Imagine if all the Bombers built at Willow Run Plant were built by Windows
based  computers...
Heck, we would be speaking German along with everyone else in the "New
Third Reich".
And, the Windows computers would still be rebooting from the latest crash.

Seems to me, it's time to employ people to do things, instead of putting
them out of work with machines that can be hacked or crash.

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 6:16 PM Clay via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Digital leads to fewer workers and more vulnerability.
>
> Analog will give  you much greater employment and the flesh and blood can
> make things happen when lights go out.  Mechanical systems may rust up, but
> you have to kill the operator to make it go down.
>
> clay
>
> I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.
>
>
>
> > On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
> > particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via
> computers.
> > The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
> > your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
> > computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
> > To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is
> now
> > every industry, not just one.
> >
> > Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
> > the supply of goods, or services.
> > But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
> >
> > On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I thought the same thing. And unless I'm misreading, the plates expired in 2018 
so it's probably more like 2+ years not driven.

Allan

Mitch Haley via Mercedes  writes:

> That's some major league pitching, to throw a fastball with a 
> basketball.
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Re: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
That's some major league pitching, to throw a fastball with a 
basketball.


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Re: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Just noticed that there is lien. Owner probably has that much left to
pay and wants out of a car he's not driving.

Allan

Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes  writes:

> No bargain at $2500. Boat anchor at this point. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iPhone
>
>> On May 9, 2021, at 11:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> That would be a bargain, if you have the patience, time and tools. With the 
>> market what it is, it is worth considerably more than that.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: May 9, 2021 10:27 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
>> Subject: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500
>> 
>> Might be a decent deal? Looks cosmetically nice overall.
>> 
>> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-gearhead-special-2010-mercedes-glk/7319280491.html
>> 
>> Allan
>> 

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Re: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
No bargain at $2500. Boat anchor at this point. 

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On May 9, 2021, at 11:31 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> That would be a bargain, if you have the patience, time and tools. With the 
> market what it is, it is worth considerably more than that.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: May 9, 2021 10:27 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
> Subject: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500
> 
> Might be a decent deal? Looks cosmetically nice overall.
> 
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-gearhead-special-2010-mercedes-glk/7319280491.html
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
That would be a bargain, if you have the patience, time and tools. With the 
market what it is, it is worth considerably more than that.


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Subject: [MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

Might be a decent deal? Looks cosmetically nice overall.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-gearhead-special-2010-mercedes-glk/7319280491.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
I wonder if they (government) will suspend the Jones Act.


Rick

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Sent: May 9, 2021 10:23 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: astr...@indiana.edu
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

With the east coast pipeline shut down, a state of emergencey has been
declared, waiving the hours of service limits for tanker trucks so
that fuel can be trucked in.

https://www.transportationnation.com/h-o-s-suspended-for-fuel-haulers-in-18-states-after-cyber-attack-forces-major-pipeline-to-shut-down/

You're probably set to make a nice bit of income if you are an
owner/operator with a tanker endorsement.

Allan


dan--- via Mercedes  writes:

> As someone involved in the security side of things, I am aware of this 
> incident, which was due to a ransomeware attack. These exploit the ignorance 
> of humans to be successful, which is the weakest part of the whole system. If 
> we relied solely on hardware and software solutions for security we would be 
> far better off. When the human element is factored in, all bets are off.
>
> You can’t imagine the stupid, idiotic stuff people do or get coerced to do. I 
> see this stuff all the time, and it never ceases to amaze me.
>
> If I get the right person to respond to my efforts, I’m in and ready to wreak 
> havoc.
>
> In a case like this, the best thing to do is completely shut down and start 
> methodically bringing things up with trusted/clean hardware and images. It 
> takes time, but I assume this is what the transmission line folks are doing.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
>> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
>> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
>> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
>> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
>> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
>> every industry, not just one.
>>
>> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
>> the supply of goods, or services.
>> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
>>
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
 On 2021-05-08 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
 Is probably going up.


>>> https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/
>>>
>>> To quote a guy who owns an oil company:
>>>
>>> Depends on how fast they can get it restored.
>>>
>>>
>>> Last time it was down, it was down for 16 days due to a leak caused by a
>>> contractor working on it.
>>>
>>>
>>> If it’s for a few hours / days. Not a big deal.
>>>
>>>
>>> If it’s for 5-7 days, Time to worry a bit, especially if you’re AO is
>>> only supplied by the colonial.
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking at you GA / SC / NC / TN / VA.
>>>
>>>
>>> But I really don’t see it being a huge deal.  Worse case 2-3 days and
>>> they should be back up and running. If not faster.

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[MBZ] Gearhead special - 2010 GLK350 - $2,500

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Might be a decent deal? Looks cosmetically nice overall.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/avon-gearhead-special-2010-mercedes-glk/7319280491.html

Allan

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
With the east coast pipeline shut down, a state of emergencey has been
declared, waiving the hours of service limits for tanker trucks so
that fuel can be trucked in.

https://www.transportationnation.com/h-o-s-suspended-for-fuel-haulers-in-18-states-after-cyber-attack-forces-major-pipeline-to-shut-down/

You're probably set to make a nice bit of income if you are an
owner/operator with a tanker endorsement.

Allan


dan--- via Mercedes  writes:

> As someone involved in the security side of things, I am aware of this 
> incident, which was due to a ransomeware attack. These exploit the ignorance 
> of humans to be successful, which is the weakest part of the whole system. If 
> we relied solely on hardware and software solutions for security we would be 
> far better off. When the human element is factored in, all bets are off.
>
> You can’t imagine the stupid, idiotic stuff people do or get coerced to do. I 
> see this stuff all the time, and it never ceases to amaze me.
>
> If I get the right person to respond to my efforts, I’m in and ready to wreak 
> havoc.
>
> In a case like this, the best thing to do is completely shut down and start 
> methodically bringing things up with trusted/clean hardware and images. It 
> takes time, but I assume this is what the transmission line folks are doing.
>
> -D
>
>> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
>> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
>> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
>> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
>> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
>> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
>> every industry, not just one.
>> 
>> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
>> the supply of goods, or services.
>> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
>> 
>> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
 On 2021-05-08 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
 Is probably going up.
 
 
>>> https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/
>>> 
>>> To quote a guy who owns an oil company:
>>> 
>>> Depends on how fast they can get it restored.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Last time it was down, it was down for 16 days due to a leak caused by a
>>> contractor working on it.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If it’s for a few hours / days. Not a big deal.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> If it’s for 5-7 days, Time to worry a bit, especially if you’re AO is
>>> only supplied by the colonial.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Looking at you GA / SC / NC / TN / VA.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> But I really don’t see it being a huge deal.  Worse case 2-3 days and
>>> they should be back up and running. If not faster.

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Clay via Mercedes
Digital leads to fewer workers and more vulnerability.

Analog will give  you much greater employment and the flesh and blood can make 
things happen when lights go out.  Mechanical systems may rust up, but you have 
to kill the operator to make it go down.

clay 

I have no pronouns please do not refer to me.



> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
> every industry, not just one.
> 
> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
> the supply of goods, or services.
> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
> 
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
etrailer is a good outfit. I got a hitch and lighting controller from
them for my Volvo and it all worked flawlessly. On the XC90 the battery
is in the back so it was right there for power hookup.

Allan

Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:

> Good idea!  That will save a lot of wire fishing
>
> --FT
>
> On 5/9/21 6:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
>> I powered my light controller from the aux power outlet (lighter socket).
>> If I had the foresight to put the box on the right side of the car, 
>> the power wire on it would have been long enough to reach the lighter 
>> socket and I wouldn't have had to add wire.
>>

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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Good idea!  That will save a lot of wire fishing

--FT

On 5/9/21 6:47 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

I powered my light controller from the aux power outlet (lighter socket).
If I had the foresight to put the box on the right side of the car, 
the power wire on it would have been long enough to reach the lighter 
socket and I wouldn't have had to add wire.


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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Kevin Kraly via Mercedes
Whatever yew due, donut loose ur break petal ore  Yule bee in trouble!!

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> On May 9, 2021, at 3:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I had an issue with my break calibers
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 5/9/21 6:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
>> Is bumber a low country bumper?
>> 
>> On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 6:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>So this 99ML320 I have with the limp mode issue that I can't seem to
>>resolve had a nice 5000lb Drawtite 2" receiver hitch on it.  I was 
> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I had an issue with my break calibers

--FT

On 5/9/21 6:40 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

Is bumber a low country bumper?

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 6:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


So this 99ML320 I have with the limp mode issue that I can't seem to
resolve had a nice 5000lb Drawtite 2" receiver hitch on it.  I was 


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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes
I powered my light controller from the aux power outlet (lighter 
socket).
If I had the foresight to put the box on the right side of the car, the 
power wire on it would have been long enough to reach the lighter socket 
and I wouldn't have had to add wire.


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Re: [MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Is bumber a low country bumper?

On Sun, May 9, 2021 at 6:34 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So this 99ML320 I have with the limp mode issue that I can't seem to
> resolve had a nice 5000lb Drawtite 2" receiver hitch on it.  I was
> wanting to get one for the 05ML500 so I figured I would just swap it
> over.  I watched an installation vid on etrailer.com, easy enough, so I
> did that this afternoon. For some reason on etrailer they rate it a
> 10/10 but all the mounting points are there from the factory, it is a
> bit fiddly to get the bolts attached but not hard, and you have to use
> these nuts with a tab on them to slide them up in the frame rails for
> the bolts to grab on the end brackets.  I did get out the HF electric
> impact driver to get the big bolts off the center hitch part, they were
> on really tight but it spun them off easy enough.
>
> Only wrinkle was I had to get out the Roto-zip and trim off a small bit
> of the bumber for it to fit over the hitch.  This was not an issue as
> the bumber is all cracked and half of it is missing anyway so hacking it
> up a bit was OK.  I need to hit some junkyards to see if I can find
> another one in better shape.  Oh, and on the 05 there are radio antenna
> panels mounted inside the bumber cover, one on each side right behind
> the rear wheels.  A very weird thing.
>
> The 99 also has a wiring kit installed, there is some kind of special
> box that isolates the light system or something, but wiring it up into
> the taillights looks to be straightforward.  I think you have to run a
> power line to the battery to get power, and the little box senses the
> various lights then activates them off the isolated power.  I am going
> to order another one for the 05 and an adapter for 4-wire --> 7 wire as
> my big trailer has that setup for the brakes and the wiring kits are
> only 4-wire.  Will be about $50 for that kit, so not too spendy to get
> towing mode engaged.
>
> The 5000lb version has these brackets that mount on the ends of the
> crossmember behind the bumber and to the longitudinal frame rails to
> give an additional 1500lb capacity.
>
>
> https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Mercedes-Benz/M-Class/2005/75087.html?VehicleID=20052501
>
> So now I will be good to tow with it and haul more fine Marzaydeez Bintz
> automobiles home!
>
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[MBZ] A gratifying project this afternoon

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
So this 99ML320 I have with the limp mode issue that I can't seem to 
resolve had a nice 5000lb Drawtite 2" receiver hitch on it.  I was 
wanting to get one for the 05ML500 so I figured I would just swap it 
over.  I watched an installation vid on etrailer.com, easy enough, so I 
did that this afternoon. For some reason on etrailer they rate it a 
10/10 but all the mounting points are there from the factory, it is a 
bit fiddly to get the bolts attached but not hard, and you have to use 
these nuts with a tab on them to slide them up in the frame rails for 
the bolts to grab on the end brackets.  I did get out the HF electric 
impact driver to get the big bolts off the center hitch part, they were 
on really tight but it spun them off easy enough.


Only wrinkle was I had to get out the Roto-zip and trim off a small bit 
of the bumber for it to fit over the hitch.  This was not an issue as 
the bumber is all cracked and half of it is missing anyway so hacking it 
up a bit was OK.  I need to hit some junkyards to see if I can find 
another one in better shape.  Oh, and on the 05 there are radio antenna 
panels mounted inside the bumber cover, one on each side right behind 
the rear wheels.  A very weird thing.


The 99 also has a wiring kit installed, there is some kind of special 
box that isolates the light system or something, but wiring it up into 
the taillights looks to be straightforward.  I think you have to run a 
power line to the battery to get power, and the little box senses the 
various lights then activates them off the isolated power.  I am going 
to order another one for the 05 and an adapter for 4-wire --> 7 wire as 
my big trailer has that setup for the brakes and the wiring kits are 
only 4-wire.  Will be about $50 for that kit, so not too spendy to get 
towing mode engaged.


The 5000lb version has these brackets that mount on the ends of the 
crossmember behind the bumber and to the longitudinal frame rails to 
give an additional 1500lb capacity.


https://www.etrailer.com/Trailer-Hitch/Mercedes-Benz/M-Class/2005/75087.html?VehicleID=20052501

So now I will be good to tow with it and haul more fine Marzaydeez Bintz 
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I'll add that it is graduation weekend, so will be interesting to see if
the price drops tomorrow.

Allan

Allan Streib via Mercedes  writes:

> $2.99 here for 87; $3.59 for 93 as of yesterday. 
>
> Allan
>
> Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  writes:
>
>> Went to Costco to get gas for the truck and some jugs.  noticed a coupla 
>> stations had reg and dzl for $2.75, Costco was $2.70 for reg.  I think 
>> it might be up a few cents from the other day but no big jump yet.
>>
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
$2.99 here for 87; $3.59 for 93 as of yesterday. 

Allan

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> Went to Costco to get gas for the truck and some jugs.  noticed a coupla 
> stations had reg and dzl for $2.75, Costco was $2.70 for reg.  I think 
> it might be up a few cents from the other day but no big jump yet.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Back to the time warp again! 2022 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class, $8, 900

2021-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Looks like good ol' Gelb color.  Delish.

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> A pretty yellow 450SL with some missing bits but looks nice
>
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Re: [MBZ] if you want to look at the car you will have to come to my house I want meet you 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D, $12, 000

2021-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I would pay $10 just to avoid meeting this jerk.

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> The price is firm
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Re: [MBZ] OT I'm absolutely sure I need this

2021-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
No can access.

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Went to Costco to get gas for the truck and some jugs.  noticed a coupla 
stations had reg and dzl for $2.75, Costco was $2.70 for reg.  I think 
it might be up a few cents from the other day but no big jump yet.


--FT

On 5/8/21 11:16 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

Is probably going up.

https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/

I guess they don't air gap the PLC network.

Oops.

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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread dan--- via Mercedes
As someone involved in the security side of things, I am aware of this 
incident, which was due to a ransomeware attack. These exploit the ignorance of 
humans to be successful, which is the weakest part of the whole system. If we 
relied solely on hardware and software solutions for security we would be far 
better off. When the human element is factored in, all bets are off.

You can’t imagine the stupid, idiotic stuff people do or get coerced to do. I 
see this stuff all the time, and it never ceases to amaze me.

If I get the right person to respond to my efforts, I’m in and ready to wreak 
havoc.

In a case like this, the best thing to do is completely shut down and start 
methodically bringing things up with trusted/clean hardware and images. It 
takes time, but I assume this is what the transmission line folks are doing.

-D

> On May 9, 2021, at 8:20 AM, G Mann via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
> particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
> The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
> your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
> computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
> To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
> every industry, not just one.
> 
> Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
> the supply of goods, or services.
> But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?
> 
> On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> 
>>> On 2021-05-08 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Is probably going up.
>>> 
>>> 
>> https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/
>> 
>> To quote a guy who owns an oil company:
>> 
>> Depends on how fast they can get it restored.
>> 
>> 
>> Last time it was down, it was down for 16 days due to a leak caused by a
>> contractor working on it.
>> 
>> 
>> If it’s for a few hours / days. Not a big deal.
>> 
>> 
>> If it’s for 5-7 days, Time to worry a bit, especially if you’re AO is
>> only supplied by the colonial.
>> 
>> 
>> Looking at you GA / SC / NC / TN / VA.
>> 
>> 
>> But I really don’t see it being a huge deal.  Worse case 2-3 days and
>> they should be back up and running. If not faster.
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Re: [MBZ] Price Of Fuel

2021-05-09 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
I'm seeing that industries across the board have built themselves a
particular vulnerability by running their entire operations via computers.
The number and scope of such attacks have increased, yet, the weakness of
your entire operation, delivery of product, and profit is all tied to a
computer system that is vulnerable to attack.
To my way of thinking, this has evolved into utterly stupid, and it is now
every industry, not just one.

Someone, somewhere, can remotely turn off your comfortable life, and stop
the supply of goods, or services.
But... hey... nothing to worry about because everyone is good... right?

On Sat, May 8, 2021 at 10:10 AM Mitch Haley via Mercedes <
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> On 2021-05-08 11:16, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Is probably going up.
> >
> >
> https://dnyuz.com/2021/05/08/cyberattack-forces-a-shutdown-of-a-top-u-s-pipeline-operator/
>
> To quote a guy who owns an oil company:
>
> Depends on how fast they can get it restored.
>
>
> Last time it was down, it was down for 16 days due to a leak caused by a
> contractor working on it.
>
>
> If it’s for a few hours / days. Not a big deal.
>
>
> If it’s for 5-7 days, Time to worry a bit, especially if you’re AO is
> only supplied by the colonial.
>
>
> Looking at you GA / SC / NC / TN / VA.
>
>
> But I really don’t see it being a huge deal.  Worse case 2-3 days and
> they should be back up and running. If not faster.
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[MBZ] OT I'm absolutely sure I need this

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

The only question is a 350 or 617

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[MBZ] Back to the time warp again! 2022 Mercedes-Benz SL-Class, $8, 900

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

A pretty yellow 450SL with some missing bits but looks nice

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/863993917663159

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Re: [MBZ] It’s a 40 year old car. 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D,$1,700

2021-05-09 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
Somebody closer than I am needs to jump all over that one. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 9, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Has good bones.  Might be worth a flyer if not too rusty.
> 
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>> Needs some work but doesn't look half bad.  Ugly bumpers
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/216171739964809
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[MBZ] if you want to look at the car you will have to come to my house I want meet you 2005 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 55 AMG Sedan 4D, $12, 000

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes



The price is firm

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/174637687896771

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Re: [MBZ] (It has check engine symbol with the code P0715, it can be repaired by spending $400-$600)

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

And as it sits its a $1200 car

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On 5/9/21 10:24 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:

On 2021-05-09 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
$2,800

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4113459895359385


700 codes are check transmission codes, not check engine codes.
715 appears to be input shaft speed sensor.

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[MBZ] no Cadillac converter everything else j, Is there 2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, $300

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The pictures leak out if I turn my phone sideways so I can only show 
half the car


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Re: [MBZ] It’s a 40 year old car. 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D,$1,700

2021-05-09 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Has good bones.  Might be worth a flyer if not too rusty.

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Re: [MBZ] (It has check engine symbol with the code P0715, it can be repaired by spending $400-$600)

2021-05-09 Thread Mitch Haley via Mercedes

On 2021-05-09 10:17, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
$2,800

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4113459895359385


700 codes are check transmission codes, not check engine codes.
715 appears to be input shaft speed sensor.

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[MBZ] It’s a 40 year old car. 1980 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D,$1,700

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

Needs some work but doesn't look half bad.  Ugly bumpers

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/216171739964809

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[MBZ] (It has check engine symbol with the code P0715, it can be repaired by spending $400-$600)

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

2001 Mercedes-Benz E-Class E 320 Sedan 4D
$2,800

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/4113459895359385

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[MBZ] The car is black and its 2000 bucks runs and drives 1998 Mercedes-Benz E-Class, $2, 032

2021-05-09 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

All the essential information

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/295709995386281

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Re: [MBZ] It's Time

2021-05-09 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
Yes indeed.  Looks like Kaleb is moving that direction.

Max Dillon
Charleston SC


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[MBZ] It's Time

2021-05-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
To polish up the turds and get them sold.

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[MBZ] W140 With Bulletproof Glass

2021-05-09 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
No, really.

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