Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

I was addressing the theoretical question about how a lighter bullet can have 
more energy with less recoil.  In a specific case, barrel length, chamber 
pressure, and powder burn rate also control muzzle velocity.

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo

Energy in the bullet comes from whatever the charge has minus any losses. Not 
sure how a smaller bullet could gain more energy. More velocity maybe (M lower, 
V^2 higher) but energy is the same for a same powder load  in both rounds 
E1==E2== .5*M1*V1^2 == .5*M2*V2^2. M2 V2>V1

--FT
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> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Energy is 1/2 MV*V (V squared) where M is the bullet mass and V is bullet 
> velocity.  Momentum is MV which also is also equal to the impulse (force * 
> time)  needed to create the momentum.  So for a given impulse (recoil) the 
> lighter bullet will always have more energy (less M, more V).   But with 
> similar aerodynamic forces. A lighter bullet will lose energy (velocity) 
> faster (same force, less mass).
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo
> 
> I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
> YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
> but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
> energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.
> 
> It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
>> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
>> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
>> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
>> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
>> soreness.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Does that still use 1.4MB floppy disks? You'll need about 2,200 of them to 
download it.


On Thu, Jul 1, 2021, at 12:00 AM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> Can I get it for my 1988 Mac ll?
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.
> > 
> > https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html
> > 
> > Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Can I get it for my 1988 Mac ll?

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.
> 
> https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Sorry forgot the link.

https://www.macworld.co.uk/feature/what-version-macos-compatible-3776008/

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 11:52 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> There's a list of Mac OS versions and compatible models here.
> 
> Says that Lion/Mountain Lion will run on MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 to 
> mid-2012) 
> 
> Is it worth it? I don't know, I don't use Macs anymore.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> > I have a very creaky Macbook Pro.   Is it worth it?
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:22 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> >> You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.
> >> 
> >> https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html
> >> 
> >> Allan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

There's a list of Mac OS versions and compatible models here.

Says that Lion/Mountain Lion will run on MacBook Pro (Mid/Late 2007 to 
mid-2012) 

Is it worth it? I don't know, I don't use Macs anymore.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 11:24 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> I have a very creaky Macbook Pro.   Is it worth it?
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:22 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
>> You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.
>> 
>> https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html
>> 
>> Allan
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[MBZ] 1995 E230 Cabrio - 140k miles - $16,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

The wheels don't do it for me, proportions just look wrong. Original wheels are 
included though.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-1995-mercedes-e320/7344481257.html
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Re: [MBZ] Even Though It's a Crap Class...

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

And the Tru-Coat

--FT
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> On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Not with an investment in branded factory undercoating.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:45 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> If it was a Chevette it would have rusted away by now.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote:
>> 
>> A Chevette with class...
>> 
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM dan penoff.com via
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> …this looks like a cool little car:
>> 
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-c230/7344300192.html
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Energy in the bullet comes from whatever the charge has minus any losses. Not 
sure how a smaller bullet could gain more energy. More velocity maybe (M lower, 
V^2 higher) but energy is the same for a same powder load  in both rounds 
E1==E2== .5*M1*V1^2 == .5*M2*V2^2. M2 V2>V1

--FT
Sent from iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:10 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Energy is 1/2 MV*V (V squared) where M is the bullet mass and V is bullet 
> velocity.  Momentum is MV which also is also equal to the impulse (force * 
> time)  needed to create the momentum.  So for a given impulse (recoil) the 
> lighter bullet will always have more energy (less M, more V).   But with 
> similar aerodynamic forces. A lighter bullet will lose energy (velocity) 
> faster (same force, less mass).
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Allan Streib 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo
> 
> I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
> YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
> but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
> energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.
> 
> It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
>> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
>> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
>> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
>> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
>> soreness.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have a very creaky Macbook Pro.   Is it worth it?

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:22 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.
>
>
> https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Steel casing. Nope. Only brass in my stuff.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 9:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
>> the cost of shipping doesn’t make it any better of a deal than what I get 
>> from my regular ammo supplier.
> 
> Huh. I would figure shipping from somewhere close wouldn't be too much.
> 
> Like this place in Sarasota.
> 
> https://www.sharkcoasttactical.com/product/tula-9mm-luger-115gr-fmj-non-corrosive-1000-round-case/
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> the cost of shipping doesn’t make it any better of a deal than what I get 
> from my regular ammo supplier.

Huh. I would figure shipping from somewhere close wouldn't be too much.

Like this place in Sarasota.

https://www.sharkcoasttactical.com/product/tula-9mm-luger-115gr-fmj-non-corrosive-1000-round-case/

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I ordered some bismuth 16ga last week. Ouch! That said granddad's 16ga pump was 
a pheasant slaughterer last year, I'd like to see it get some ducks.
Bismuth is heavier (denser) than steel so I can use smaller shot which gives 
more pellets. I've been using #3 so far, hopefully #4 will work better.
Curt

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  On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 6:23 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   Looks like stuff is starting to 
trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to get some decent quality 9mm lately, 
despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. Noticed there were tons of .38 special 
a few weeks ago, but that seemed to evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my 
Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. 
More shots with less wrist soreness.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I have, too, but I’ve found that by the time I check on someone’s stock it’s 
either gone or the cost of shipping doesn’t make it any better of a deal than 
what I get from my regular ammo supplier.

Ammograb is another one  I’ve looked at. 

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 7:16 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I've used ammoseek.com to find the best prices.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 5:23 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: [MBZ] OT - Ammo
> 
> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
> soreness.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] B1 Dodge

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

If you know what this means or have one let me know. I have something to
give you.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Yes Curt i remember when we went to get that hood from Fred's Autohaus.
Fred is a sponsor of the ChowdahQ. He is my MB mechanic.

Dwight Giles Jr.
Wickford RI

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>  Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard
> to get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but
> in decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd,
> I understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at
> $75, he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window
> switches for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
> I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more
> work but wasn't bad.
> I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he
> had scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for
> the hood...
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know
> how to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front of
> them you might get somewhere.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach
> out to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they
> simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> >
> > In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me
> when I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number.
> “Don’t know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure
> someone wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never
> got a response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts
> exchange website. People who needed parts could connect with people who
> were parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction
> would remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a way
> for sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted"
> listings. It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or
> model than eBay or CL.
> >>
> >> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for
> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have
> never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
> >>
> >> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or
> forums was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com
> classifieds worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my
> Ghia, for example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never
> got around to actually developing the idea.
> >>
> >> Allan
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money
> in this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or
> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just
> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect
> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
> >>>
> >>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> >>>
> >>> 
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
>  On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever
> actually produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal
> something is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy.
> 
>  Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> >
> > Sock puppet time.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking
> for something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the
> mufflers
> >>
> >> --FT
> >>
> >>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I am in the same boat.
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
>  On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts
> from each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying,
> if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate
> a

Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I've used ammoseek.com to find the best prices.


Rick

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To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: d...@penoff.com
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to get 
some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
soreness.

-D
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[MBZ] Physics Was: OT - Ammo

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Energy is 1/2 MV*V (V squared) where M is the bullet mass and V is bullet 
velocity.  Momentum is MV which also is also equal to the impulse (force * 
time)  needed to create the momentum.  So for a given impulse (recoil) the 
lighter bullet will always have more energy (less M, more V).   But with 
similar aerodynamic forces. A lighter bullet will lose energy (velocity) faster 
(same force, less mass).

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.

It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
> soreness.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I would defer to Mitch, as he’s the firearms expert around here.

I loves my Ruger revolver despite it being single action. I have a Super Single 
Six as well that shoots .22, which is a blast and cheap to shoot all day long. 
I think single action makes you work a little harder to make your shot, since 
you’ve got to cock the trigger every time.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
> YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
> but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
> energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.
> 
> It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
>> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
>> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
>> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
>> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
>> soreness.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Ammo

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I know little about firearms but have seen the Ruger 57 showing up in my 
YouTube recommendations, etc. Any thoughts? Shoots 5.7x28mm, a lighter round 
but faster and with similar energy as 9mm. Supposedly less recoil (though if 
energy is similar I'm not sure that makes sense) and more accurate.

It's apparently a more expensive round also, at least for now.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:22 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to 
> get some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
> Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
> evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
> enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
> soreness.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] OT - Ammo

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Looks like stuff is starting to trickle back into stock. I’ve been able to get 
some decent quality 9mm lately, despite having to pay $0.50/round. Ouch. 
Noticed there were tons of .38 special a few weeks ago, but that seemed to 
evaporate. I wanted to stock back up for my Ruger Blackhawk .357. Far more 
enjoyable shooting .38 special in it than .357. More shots with less wrist 
soreness.

-D
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[MBZ] OT: For those with older (but not too old) Macs

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

You can get OSX Lion/Mountain Lion free now.

https://www.macworld.com/article/350041/apple-goes-retro-with-free-downloads-of-os-x-lion-and-mountain-lion.html

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yabbut he got out by selling to LKQ. That place makes most of their money 
selling to bodyshops with late model stuff, I believe. That and there’s no 
haggling, you pay the price they list for most stuff. If it’s not a commodity 
part like an alternator or radiator they’ll haggle.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 6:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Exactly.
> 
> If these places like ASAP couldn’t make it years ago when these cars were far 
> more main stream daily drivers, what makes people think they can make a 
> business out of it when parts demand seems like it would be far lower than it 
> was. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yeah you could sort of see it if it was an in-demand part for a newer car. 
>> But how often do they have someone waving cash in their face for parts for a 
>> 30-40 year old car? I'd think they'd grab any offer they got.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:01 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> True, the logic is lacking. I haven’t experienced this myself, but I’ve 
>>> seen it happen in the past where someone brings stuff to the counter and 
>>> tries to haggle and they blow them off.
>>> 
>>> ???
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Yep, that sounds about right. I have been at the pnp before and needed a 
 bumper cover. After I pulled it I discovered it was cracked and had some 
 other damage. I could have made it work but was not willing to pay full 
 price. Got got the counter and they would not discount at all. Instead 
 they just threw it in the junk pile of cores to be crushed or whatever. 
 Well OK then, if you would have knocked $20 off it would have been better 
 than nothing. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard 
> to get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but 
> in decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was 
> odd, I understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried 
> countering at $75, he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe 
> also get window switches for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
> 
> I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed 
> more work but wasn't bad.
> 
> I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he 
> had scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for 
> the hood...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know 
> how to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front 
> of them you might get somewhere. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach 
>> out to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if 
>> they simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other 
>> businesses?
>> 
>> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me 
>> when I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. 
>> “Don’t know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure 
>> someone wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never 
>> got a response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts 
>>> exchange website. People who needed parts could connect with people who 
>>> were parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction 
>>> would remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a 
>>> way for sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" 
>>> listings. It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer 
>>> or model than eBay or CL.
>>> 
>>> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
>>> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
>>> never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
>>> 
>>> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or 
>>> forums was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com 
>>> classifieds worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my 
>>> Ghia, for example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I j

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Exactly.

If these places like ASAP couldn’t make it years ago when these cars were far 
more main stream daily drivers, what makes people think they can make a 
business out of it when parts demand seems like it would be far lower than it 
was. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:09 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yeah you could sort of see it if it was an in-demand part for a newer car. 
> But how often do they have someone waving cash in their face for parts for a 
> 30-40 year old car? I'd think they'd grab any offer they got.
> 
> Allan
> 
>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:01 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> True, the logic is lacking. I haven’t experienced this myself, but I’ve seen 
>> it happen in the past where someone brings stuff to the counter and tries to 
>> haggle and they blow them off.
>> 
>> ???
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yep, that sounds about right. I have been at the pnp before and needed a 
>>> bumper cover. After I pulled it I discovered it was cracked and had some 
>>> other damage. I could have made it work but was not willing to pay full 
>>> price. Got got the counter and they would not discount at all. Instead they 
>>> just threw it in the junk pile of cores to be crushed or whatever. Well OK 
>>> then, if you would have knocked $20 off it would have been better than 
>>> nothing. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
 
 
 Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard to 
 get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but in 
 decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd, I 
 understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at 
 $75, he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window 
 switches for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
 
 I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more 
 work but wasn't bad.
 
 I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he 
 had scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for 
 the hood...
 
 -Curt
 
 On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 
 These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know 
 how to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front 
 of them you might get somewhere. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach 
> out to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if 
> they simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> 
> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me 
> when I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. 
> “Don’t know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure 
> someone wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never 
> got a response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts 
>> exchange website. People who needed parts could connect with people who 
>> were parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction 
>> would remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a 
>> way for sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" 
>> listings. It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer 
>> or model than eBay or CL.
>> 
>> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
>> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
>> never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
>> 
>> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums 
>> was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com 
>> classifieds worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my 
>> Ghia, for example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just 
>> never got around to actually developing the idea.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
>>> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
>>> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re 
>>> just taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship,

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah you could sort of see it if it was an in-demand part for a newer car. But 
how often do they have someone waving cash in their face for parts for a 30-40 
year old car? I'd think they'd grab any offer they got.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 6:01 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> True, the logic is lacking. I haven’t experienced this myself, but I’ve seen 
> it happen in the past where someone brings stuff to the counter and tries to 
> haggle and they blow them off.
> 
> ???
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yep, that sounds about right. I have been at the pnp before and needed a 
> > bumper cover. After I pulled it I discovered it was cracked and had some 
> > other damage. I could have made it work but was not willing to pay full 
> > price. Got got the counter and they would not discount at all. Instead they 
> > just threw it in the junk pile of cores to be crushed or whatever. Well OK 
> > then, if you would have knocked $20 off it would have been better than 
> > nothing. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard to 
> >> get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but in 
> >> decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd, I 
> >> understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at 
> >> $75, he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window 
> >> switches for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
> >> 
> >> I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more 
> >> work but wasn't bad.
> >> 
> >> I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he 
> >> had scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for 
> >> the hood...
> >> 
> >> -Curt
> >> 
> >> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> 
> >> These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know 
> >> how to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front 
> >> of them you might get somewhere. 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach 
> >>> out to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if 
> >>> they simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> >>> 
> >>> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me 
> >>> when I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. 
> >>> “Don’t know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure 
> >>> someone wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never 
> >>> got a response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> >>> 
> >>> -D
> >>> 
>  On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
>  
>  Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts 
>  exchange website. People who needed parts could connect with people who 
>  were parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction 
>  would remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a 
>  way for sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" 
>  listings. It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer 
>  or model than eBay or CL.
>  
>  I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
>  individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
>  never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
>  
>  In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums 
>  was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com 
>  classifieds worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my 
>  Ghia, for example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just 
>  never got around to actually developing the idea.
>  
>  Allan
>  
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
> > this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
> > otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re 
> > just taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, 
> > collect money, etc., is a losing proposition.
> > 
> > And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
> >> produce the cash.

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

True, the logic is lacking. I haven’t experienced this myself, but I’ve seen it 
happen in the past where someone brings stuff to the counter and tries to 
haggle and they blow them off.

???

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep, that sounds about right. I have been at the pnp before and needed a 
> bumper cover. After I pulled it I discovered it was cracked and had some 
> other damage. I could have made it work but was not willing to pay full 
> price. Got got the counter and they would not discount at all. Instead they 
> just threw it in the junk pile of cores to be crushed or whatever. Well OK 
> then, if you would have knocked $20 off it would have been better than 
> nothing. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard to 
>> get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but in 
>> decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd, I 
>> understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at $75, 
>> he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window switches 
>> for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
>> 
>> I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more 
>> work but wasn't bad.
>> 
>> I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he 
>> had scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for 
>> the hood...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know how 
>> to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front of them 
>> you might get somewhere. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out 
>>> to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they 
>>> simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
>>> 
>>> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when 
>>> I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t 
>>> know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone 
>>> wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a 
>>> response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
 website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were 
 parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would 
 remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for 
 sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. 
 It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model 
 than eBay or CL.
 
 I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
 individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
 never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
 
 In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums 
 was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds 
 worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for 
 example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got 
 around to actually developing the idea.
 
 Allan
 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just 
> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect 
> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
> 
> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
>> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal 
>> something is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
>>> 
>>> Sock puppet time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 You need to start h

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yep, that sounds about right. I have been at the pnp before and needed a bumper 
cover. After I pulled it I discovered it was cracked and had some other damage. 
I could have made it work but was not willing to pay full price. Got got the 
counter and they would not discount at all. Instead they just threw it in the 
junk pile of cores to be crushed or whatever. Well OK then, if you would have 
knocked $20 off it would have been better than nothing. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:49 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> 
> Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard to 
> get a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but in 
> decent shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd, I 
> understood that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at $75, 
> he again told me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window switches 
> for the $125, he finally ran me out of the place.
> 
> I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more 
> work but wasn't bad.
> 
> I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he had 
> scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for the 
> hood...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know how 
> to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front of them 
> you might get somewhere. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out 
> > to sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they 
> > simply ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> > 
> > In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when 
> > I asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t 
> > know if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone 
> > wasn’t being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a 
> > response. And this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
> >> website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were 
> >> parting out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would 
> >> remain private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for 
> >> sellers to list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. 
> >> It would be more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model 
> >> than eBay or CL.
> >> 
> >> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
> >> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
> >> never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
> >> 
> >> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums 
> >> was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds 
> >> worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for 
> >> example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got 
> >> around to actually developing the idea.
> >> 
> >> Allan
> >> 
> >>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
> >>> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
> >>> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just 
> >>> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect 
> >>> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
> >>> 
> >>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> -D
> >>> 
>  On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
>  
>  Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
>  produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal 
>  something is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone
>  
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> > 
> > Sock puppet time.
> > 
> > -D
> > 
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
> >> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off 
> >> the mufflers
> >> 
> >> --FT
> >> 
> >>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> I am in the same boat.
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPh

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Even then. Back when I rebought my '83 240D I went to a local junk yard to get 
a hood. The guy wanted $125 for a hood. It was the wrong color but in decent 
shape. I offered $50, he told me to GTFO. I thought that was odd, I understood 
that junkyards had negotiable prices. I tried countering at $75, he again told 
me to GTFO. I asked if I could maybe also get window switches for the $125, he 
finally ran me out of the place.
I ended up buying a hood from Fred Rios in RI for like $50. It needed more work 
but wasn't bad.
I went back to that yard for something a few years later and found out he had 
scrapped the whole car for $50. I'd have given him more than that for the 
hood...
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 5:33:47 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know how 
to actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front of them 
you might get somewhere. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out to 
> sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they simply 
> ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> 
> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when I 
> asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t know 
> if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone wasn’t 
> being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a response. And 
> this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
>> website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting 
>> out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain 
>> private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to 
>> list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be 
>> more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL.
>> 
>> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
>> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have never 
>> gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
>> 
>> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums was 
>> simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds 
>> worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for 
>> example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got around 
>> to actually developing the idea.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
>>> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
>>> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just 
>>> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect 
>>> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
>>> 
>>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
 produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something 
 is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> 
> Sock puppet time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
>> mufflers
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I am in the same boat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
 each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, 
 if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an 
 estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a 
 little profit.
 
 The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
 tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
 before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
 that description, and I strive to be like them in

Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

These guys at salvage yards are total dumb asses usually, and don’t know how to 
actually deal with customer service. If you are standing in front of them you 
might get somewhere. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:00 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out to 
> sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they simply 
> ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> 
> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when I 
> asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t know 
> if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone wasn’t 
> being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a response. And 
> this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
>> website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting 
>> out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain 
>> private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to 
>> list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be 
>> more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL.
>> 
>> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
>> individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have never 
>> gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
>> 
>> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums was 
>> simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds 
>> worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for 
>> example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got around 
>> to actually developing the idea.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>>> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
>>> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
>>> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just 
>>> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect 
>>> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
>>> 
>>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
 produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something 
 is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> 
> Sock puppet time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
>> mufflers
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I am in the same boat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
 each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, 
 if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an 
 estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a 
 little profit.
 
 The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
 tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
 before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
 that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
 
 True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
 sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
 estimate.
 
 Allan
 
 
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[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yes I am
A hoarder, but will probably be looking to thin out cars. Maybe I will keep the 
strictly parts cars put back, but I’m going to start trying to churn out some 
project and probably get rid of projects that I will probably never get to in a 
timely manner. Anything I have been buying lately has been more near road 
worthy stuff. 

I did buy this 116 diesel that has sat for nearly 30
Years that I got started. I really don’t want the think and not sure why I 
bought it. I’m not sure if I may just throw it back up for sale as is, or yank 
the motor out to store for another day then haul the rest to the back 40. Then 
there are the tons of parts I have sitting around. Engines, transmissions, 
interiors etc. I would really like to get rid of some of this crap but as soon 
as I do I will need somebody. Rest assured though if I were to move again I 
would sell off a lot of stuff before I moved it again. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:43 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in this 
> whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or otherwise, that 
> these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just taking up space. The 
> hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect money, etc., is a losing 
> proposition.
> 
> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
>> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something 
>> is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
>>> 
>>> Sock puppet time.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
 something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
 mufflers
 
 --FT
 
> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I am in the same boat.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
>> each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, 
>> if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an 
>> estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a 
>> little profit.
>> 
>> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
>> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
>> before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
>> that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> 
>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
>> 
>> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
>> sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
>> estimate.
>> 
>> Allan
>> 
>> 
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[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yeah last summer I was looking for a transmission for the Element. Not a 
nickel/dime part. Contacted half a dozen sellers who had one listed --- 
silence. It worked out for the best in the end, as I seem to have mostly 
resurrected it with massive transfusions of fresh fluid.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out to 
> sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they simply 
> ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?
> 
> In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when I 
> asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t know 
> if we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone wasn’t 
> being lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a response. And 
> this was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
> > website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting 
> > out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain 
> > private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to 
> > list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be 
> > more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL.
> > 
> > I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for 
> > individuals. car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have 
> > never gotten a seller to respond to my inquiries there.
> > 
> > In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums 
> > was simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds 
> > worked well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for 
> > example. OK, procrastination was part of it too I just never got around 
> > to actually developing the idea.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> > On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in 
> >> this whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or 
> >> otherwise, that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just 
> >> taking up space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect 
> >> money, etc., is a losing proposition.
> >> 
> >> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
> >>> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal 
> >>> something is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
> >>> 
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>> 
>  On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>   wrote:
>  
>  He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
>  
>  Sock puppet time.
>  
>  -D
>  
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
> > something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
> > mufflers
> > 
> > --FT
> > 
> >> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> I am in the same boat.
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
> >>> each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not 
> >>> trying, if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would 
> >>> expect an estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying 
> >>> to turn a little profit.
> >>> 
> >>> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
> >>> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
> >>> before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
> >>> that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> Rick
> >>> 
> >>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
> >>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> >>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> >>> 
> >>> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 
> >>> if sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more 
> >>> reasonable estimate.
> >>> 
> >>> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Agreed, BTDT. I made some bucks on the engine and transmission but I still 
have a bunch of other bits like taillights and interior switches that nobody 
seemed to want. I should put the seat controls on eBay, IIRC they were 
expensive when I bought them...
-Curt

On Wednesday, June 30, 2021, 4:43:42 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:  
 
 After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in this 
whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or otherwise, that 
these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just taking up space. The 
hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect money, etc., is a losing 
proposition.

And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.



-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something is 
> but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
>> 
>> Sock puppet time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
>>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
>>> mufflers
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I am in the same boat.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each 
> of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the 
> cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate 
> auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a little 
> profit.
> 
> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
> before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
> that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> 
> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
> sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
> estimate.
> 
> Allan
> 
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[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Same experience with car-part.com. I’ve tried numerous times to reach out to 
sellers but have never received a response. I often wondered if they simply 
ignore consumer requests and just respond to other businesses?

In one case the seller was nearby and I called. They still ghosted me when I 
asked about a specific item and even provided the stock number. “Don’t know if 
we have it, I’ll check and call yu back.” Just to be sure someone wasn’t being 
lazy I called three times over a week’s time. Never got a response. And this 
was for a $400 seat, not some $10 part.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:55 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
> website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting 
> out or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain 
> private between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to 
> list and buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be 
> more focused on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL.
> 
> I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for individuals. 
> car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have never gotten a 
> seller to respond to my inquiries there.
> 
> In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums was 
> simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds worked 
> well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for example. OK, 
> procrastination was part of it too I just never got around to actually 
> developing the idea.
> 
> Allan
> 
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in this 
>> whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or otherwise, 
>> that these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just taking up 
>> space. The hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect money, etc., 
>> is a losing proposition.
>> 
>> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
>>> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something 
>>> is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
 
 Sock puppet time.
 
 -D
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
> mufflers
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am in the same boat.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
>>> each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, 
>>> if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an 
>>> estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a 
>>> little profit.
>>> 
>>> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
>>> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
>>> before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
>>> that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
>>> 
>>> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
>>> sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
>>> estimate.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Years back I had the idea to develop an enthusiast-oriented parts exchange 
website. People who needed parts could connect with people who were parting out 
or otherwise had parts to sell. The actual transaction would remain private 
between the parties; the site would just offer a way for sellers to list and 
buyers to search for or post "parts wanted" listings. It would be more focused 
on owners of a specific manufacturer or model than eBay or CL.

I guess car-part.com is something close to the idea but more for individuals. 
car-part.com seems to be mostly for professionals; I have never gotten a seller 
to respond to my inquiries there.

In the end I figured that email or posting on enthusiast lists or forums was 
simpler and would probably work just as well. thesamba.com classifieds worked 
well when I needed to get an additional wheel for my Ghia, for example. OK, 
procrastination was part of it too I just never got around to actually 
developing the idea.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 4:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in this 
> whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or otherwise, that 
> these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just taking up space. The 
> hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect money, etc., is a losing 
> proposition.
> 
> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.
> 
> 
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
> > produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something 
> > is but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> >>  wrote:
> >> 
> >> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> >> 
> >> Sock puppet time.
> >> 
> >> -D
> >> 
> >>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >>>  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
> >>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
> >>> mufflers
> >>> 
> >>> --FT
> >>> 
>  On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>  I am in the same boat.
>  
>  Sent from my iPhone
>  
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from 
> > each of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, 
> > if the cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an 
> > estate auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a 
> > little profit.
> > 
> > The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
> > tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
> > before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
> > that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
> > 
> > 
> > Rick
> > 
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> > 
> > True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
> > sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
> > estimate.
> > 
> > Allan
> > 
> > 
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

We will see if the Donald's 240d ex Okie Acres car sells there.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 30, 2021 3:33 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: ka...@striplin.net
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually produce 
the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something is but not 
sure I have ever seen one of them buy.


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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.

I probably resemble that remark to an extent also.
I need to get better with hoarding cash (and cash equivalents),  instead of 
hoarding "stuff".


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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

After parting a car out myself, I can’t see where there is any money in this 
whatsoever. The convenience is if you have a need, ongoing or otherwise, that 
these rusting hulks can provide, otherwise, they’re just taking up space. The 
hassle of trying to market/sell, pack, ship, collect money, etc., is a losing 
proposition.

And then there are the hoarders, like Kaleb.



-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 4:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually 
> produce the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something is 
> but not sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
>> 
>> Sock puppet time.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
>>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
>>> mufflers
>>> 
>>> --FT
>>> 
 On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I am in the same boat.
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each 
> of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the 
> cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate 
> auction to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a little 
> profit.
> 
> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
> before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit 
> that description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> 
> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
> sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
> estimate.
> 
> Allan
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea but when the rubber meets the road I’m not sure they ever actually produce 
the cash. I always see them talk about what a great deal something is but not 
sure I have ever seen one of them buy. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 2:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.
> 
> Sock puppet time.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
>> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
>> mufflers
>> 
>> --FT
>> 
>>> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I am in the same boat.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
 On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each 
 of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the 
 cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate auction 
 to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a little profit.
 
 The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
 tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more 
 before breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit that 
 description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
 
 
 Rick
 
 From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
 
 True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
 sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
 estimate.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

He’ll have to use an alias as he’s already been kicked out.

Sock puppet time.

-D

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 3:12 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
> something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
> mufflers
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I am in the same boat.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each 
>>> of them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the 
>>> cars are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate auction 
>>> to bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a little profit.
>>> 
>>> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the 
>>> tendency to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more before 
>>> breakfast than I do in a week. There are several here that fit that 
>>> description, and I strive to be like them in that way.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
>>> 
>>> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if 
>>> sold. What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable 
>>> estimate.
>>> 
>>> Allan
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You need to start hitting the 123 FB group, those morons looking for 
something to put a hood stack on and lower the springs and take off the 
mufflers


--FT

On 6/30/21 2:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

I am in the same boat.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
wrote:

We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each of 
them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the cars are 
intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate auction to bring, not 
someone who is actually trying to turn a little profit.

The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the tendency 
to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more before breakfast 
than I do in a week. There are several here that fit that description, and I 
strive to be like them in that way.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if sold. 
What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable estimate.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

I am in the same boat. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each of 
> them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the cars 
> are intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate auction to 
> bring, not someone who is actually trying to turn a little profit.
> 
> The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the tendency 
> to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more before breakfast 
> than I do in a week. There are several here that fit that description, and I 
> strive to be like them in that way.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: astr...@fastmail.fm
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> 
> True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if sold. 
> What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable estimate.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Apparently posted ad while driving

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Why do they post screenshots of pics in the wrong orientation and not 
just post the pics directly?


--FT

On 6/30/21 2:36 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Note "Merge onto 315 North" overlay on the 3rd photo.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/amlin-mercedes-for-sale/7344196389.html

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Re: [MBZ] Apparently posted ad while driving

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Apparently a brick short of a load.  190K miles since 2014.

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> Note "Merge onto 315 North" overlay on the 3rd photo.
>
>
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[MBZ] Apparently posted ad while driving

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Note "Merge onto 315 North" overlay on the 3rd photo.

https://columbus.craigslist.org/cto/d/amlin-mercedes-for-sale/7344196389.html

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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

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We'll say $250. That said, if one can't sell $x worth of parts from each of 
them before it goes to the scrap yard, one is just not trying, if the cars are 
intact. $250 a car would be what I would expect an estate auction to bring, not 
someone who is actually trying to turn a little profit.

The biggest issue for myself, and perhaps others reading this is the tendency 
to procrastinate. I am envious of those who accomplish more before breakfast 
than I do in a week. There are several here that fit that description, and I 
strive to be like them in that way.


Rick

From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: June 30, 2021 1:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if sold. 
What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable estimate.

Allan


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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

True but it's unlikely that each of the 200 cars would fetch $1,000 if sold. 
What's typical scrap value on a car? That's a more reasonable estimate.

Allan

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021, at 12:48 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> 200 cars sold at $1,000 each is $200k. $200k invested in a stock (or fund) 
> with an eight percent yield is $16k a year. I'd rather have an extra $16,000 
> every year, than 200 junkers for my heirs to dispose of. I've got WAY too 
> many projects as it is.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 11:22 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> 
> I have talked to that guy. He says he has 200 and wants to start a business 
> selling parts. I told him good luck as there has been several big name MB 
> only parts places come and go (ASAP for one). He thinks the market for parts 
> for these is much better now and his will work. Well OK then. He was proud of 
> hauling this home:
> 
> [cid:48c4e37c-e5e5-4104-9fcb-8a0bb02870d6@namprd17.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
> > mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> >
> > https://m.facebook.com/groups/246179012927450/permalink/616838492528165/?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_highlights
> >  
> > <https://m.facebook.com/groups/246179012927450/permalink/616838492528165/?ref=m_notif%C2%ACif_t=group_highlights><https://m.facebook.com/groups/246179012927450/permalink/616838492528165/?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_highlights>
> >
> > Apparently there's a fellow in Texas that Kaleb is in competition with.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> > http://20210630-110322.png>>
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Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

That is how I need to start looking at it. I need to start working on getting 
rid of about half or more and just keep a smaller core of parts and project 
cars 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 200 cars sold at $1,000 each is $200k. $200k invested in a stock (or fund) 
> with an eight percent yield is $16k a year. I'd rather have an extra $16,000 
> every year, than 200 junkers for my heirs to dispose of. I've got WAY too 
> many projects as it is.
> 
> 
> Rick
> 
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: June 30, 2021 11:22 AM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Texas Kaleb
> 
> I have talked to that guy. He says he has 200 and wants to start a business 
> selling parts. I told him good luck as there has been several big name MB 
> only parts places come and go (ASAP for one). He thinks the market for parts 
> for these is much better now and his will work. Well OK then. He was proud of 
> hauling this home:
> 
> [cid:48c4e37c-e5e5-4104-9fcb-8a0bb02870d6@namprd17.prod.outlook.com]
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jun 30, 2021, at 11:07 AM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
>> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> https://m.facebook.com/groups/246179012927450/permalink/616838492528165/?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_highlights<https://m.facebook.com/groups/246179012927450/permalink/616838492528165/?ref=m_notif¬if_t=group_highlights>
>> 
>> Apparently there's a fellow in Texas that Kaleb is in competition with.
>> 
>> 
>> Rick
>> http://20210630-110322.png>>
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Re: [MBZ] Even Though It's a Crap Class...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Not with an investment in branded factory undercoating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2LLB9CGfLs

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:45 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> If it was a Chevette it would have rusted away by now.
>
> -D
>
> On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  > wrote:
>
> A Chevette with class...
>
> On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM dan penoff.com via
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> …this looks like a cool little car:
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-c230/7344300192.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Even Though It's a Crap Class...

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If it was a Chevette it would have rusted away by now.

-D

On Jun 30, 2021, at 12:43 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
mailto:astrasfo...@gmail.com>> wrote:

A Chevette with class...

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
…this looks like a cool little car:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-c230/7344300192.html

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Re: [MBZ] Even Though It's a Crap Class...

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

A Chevette with class...

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 12:42 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> …this looks like a cool little car:
>
>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-c230/7344300192.html
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[MBZ] Even Though It's a Crap Class...

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

…this looks like a cool little car:

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/clearwater-2004-mercedes-benz-c230/7344300192.html

-D
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Re: [MBZ] This wagon was misrepresented as a one owner wagon kept in a shed. 1984 Mercedes 300TD Wagon - $2, 400 (Jacksonville)

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Why not full disclosure of all the many issues with the car?

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 10:01 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Caveat emptor
>
>
> https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-johns-1984-mercedes-300td-wagon/7343717294.html
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Weather Radar

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Are you sure about that? I can get 1 hour, 6 hours and 12 hours radar
images from Windy on an android tablet. Haven't tried it on a phone -
screen is too small to be useful.

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 1:01 PM Max Dillon via Mercedes <
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> No.  I do like Windy, but the mobile app only goes back 1 hour.
>
> Max Dillon
> Charleston SC
>
>
> Jun 29, 2021 1:38:44 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes :
>
> > Does anyone know of a weather radar site that shows more than the last
> hour of precipitation movement?
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Weather Radar

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Try this:
The learning curve is pretty short, and it gives live satellite coverage
from geostationary weather satellites. Once you learn how to track weather
movement you can get a good visual image of what is moving to your area.
Wind and Temp [via infrared] is available.
https://www.nesdis.noaa.gov/content/imagery-data-0

On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 7:45 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> Not a graphic but WeatherCloud historical data goes back a ways.  My site
> feeds Weather Underground and Ambient as well.
>  https://app.weathercloud.net/d8072847201#evolution
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Allan Streib via Mercedes
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> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Way OT: Weather Radar
>
> I was going to say check darksky.net, their precipitation forcast map lets
> you move back and forth in time but looking at it now, the actual radar map
> does not.
>
> Allan
>
> On Tue, Jun 29, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:
> > Does anyone know of a weather radar site that shows more than the last
> hour of precipitation movement?
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[MBZ] Green Exterior, Cream Interior 1974 Mercedes 450 SLC Coupe - $5, 900 (Conway)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks nice aside from paint peeling

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-1974-mercedes-450-slc-coupe/7343630819.html

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[MBZ] This wagon was misrepresented as a one owner wagon kept in a shed. 1984 Mercedes 300TD Wagon - $2, 400 (Jacksonville)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Caveat emptor

https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-johns-1984-mercedes-300td-wagon/7343717294.html

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