Re: [MBZ] OT job offers

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Suggest to them that your email program or ISP might have spammed their 
message, could they please resend it as you have not yet received the offer 
that was to be sent Wednesday, then call and let you know to look for it

—FT

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> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:41 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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> 
> Ever since our company laid off 300 people, many of us have been hounded by 
> recruiters because our company had a stellar reputation in the industry. I 
> have talked to a few companies and one caught my interest. It’s a much 
> smaller company which means they probably do not have as good of a company 
> contribution for insurance etc. They are a fairly new company but they have 
> been around since 2010 and deal primarily on the fixed ops side of things. 
> They actually started off dealing with body shops and have 20k customers so 
> they seem to be legit. Anyway, a salary range was discussed and I did let 
> them know I would have to be at the top of their range due to my experience. 
> They agreed with that. Anyway, Tuesday afternoon they call and say they would 
> like to move forward and will send me an offer the next day.  I have no idea 
> what the offer is but as of yet I still have not received anything. Since 
> they perused me I am debating on if I should reach out and see where they are 
> with sending the offer. If so, what is a normal period of time to wait. 
> 
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[MBZ] OT job offers

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Ever since our company laid off 300 people, many of us have been hounded by 
recruiters because our company had a stellar reputation in the industry. I have 
talked to a few companies and one caught my interest. It’s a much smaller 
company which means they probably do not have as good of a company contribution 
for insurance etc. They are a fairly new company but they have been around 
since 2010 and deal primarily on the fixed ops side of things. They actually 
started off dealing with body shops and have 20k customers so they seem to be 
legit. Anyway, a salary range was discussed and I did let them know I would 
have to be at the top of their range due to my experience. They agreed with 
that. Anyway, Tuesday afternoon they call and say they would like to move 
forward and will send me an offer the next day.  I have no idea what the offer 
is but as of yet I still have not received anything. Since they perused me I am 
debating on if I should reach out and see where they are with sending the 
offer. If so, what is a normal period of time to wait. 

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Re: [MBZ] Adblue heater element

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Quite possibly emissions-related. Igniting cold fuel would have higher
emissions than warm fuel.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 8:57 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> I don't know why there is a heater for adblue, but when I had the VW
> Passat, there was a recall to replace the adblue heater ---
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 6:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>
> > Why does adblue need to be heated?  As I recall it is not particularly
> > viscous but maybe it will freeze?  But in that case the heater would have
> > to stay on when it’s cold.
> >
> > Where is the offending unit and how hard is it to replace?
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> > > On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250
> > and
> > > came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and
> > probably
> > > essential before the weather turns cold.  Anyone BTDT?
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Re: [MBZ] Adblue heater element

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I don't know why there is a heater for adblue, but when I had the VW
Passat, there was a recall to replace the adblue heater ---

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 6:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Why does adblue need to be heated?  As I recall it is not particularly
> viscous but maybe it will freeze?  But in that case the heater would have
> to stay on when it’s cold.
>
> Where is the offending unit and how hard is it to replace?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250
> and
> > came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and
> probably
> > essential before the weather turns cold.  Anyone BTDT?
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Re: [MBZ] Adblue heater element

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

If you will have to be heated.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 7:32 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Why does adblue need to be heated?  As I recall it is not particularly
> viscous but maybe it will freeze?  But in that case the heater would have
> to stay on when it’s cold.
>
> Where is the offending unit and how hard is it to replace?
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250
> and
> > came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and
> probably
> > essential before the weather turns cold.  Anyone BTDT?
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[MBZ] 2004 MB E320 4Matic Thermostat Replacement Question

[Robert Koziak via Mercedes]

Hi All.
     Today I finally got around to replacing the water pump on my 2004 E320 
4Matic (90K)  and the job was easy and went smooth.  I was concerned that the 
bolts would be seized but there was no issue!
    While I had the coolant drained I figured it was a good idea to change the 
thermostat too. Here is where I encountered an issue...the two bolts are 
seized!!!  Rather that risk snapping the bolts, I stopped and decided to tackle 
the job after more preparation,  
    Most like the bolts will sheer off and I will have to tap new bolts.  Does 
anyone know the Genuine Mercedes Part Number, bolt size and a source?
    Any other suggestions before I proceed would be appreciated!!!
Thanks,Bob



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Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

[G Mann via Mercedes]

https://www.doh.wa.gov/portals/1/documents/pubs/320-090_elecpuls_fs.pdf
What happens during an EMP, and how big of a device is needed to cover an
area the size of USA.
[search question]

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 3:18 PM Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <
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> Solar cells, charge controllers, and EV motor controllers are all built on
> semiconductors and all are vulnerable to permanent EMP damage.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of G Mann via Mercedes
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2021 3:16 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: G Mann 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
> linotype, intertype, and other old presses
>
> You might want to rethink that plan to use solar panel system to recharge
> your EV car after EMP event.
>
> https://www.sol-ark.com/can-solar-flares-or-emp-damage-solar-power-systems/#
>
> :~:text=An%20EMP%20damages%20electronics%2C%20particularly,or%20connected%20
> to%20electronic%20devices.&text=However%2C%20solar%20panels%20are%20usually
> 
> ,
> solar%20electronics%20are%20likewise%20damaged
> .
>
> On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:10 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> >  How is that different than ICE vehicles? If I've got an electric
> > vehicle and an off grid solar power system I can generate power to charge
> my car.
> > It might take weeks but I could do it.
> > If I'm out of gas/diesel and there has been a disruption to supply I'm
> > screwed.
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 03:05:32 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >  The best thing that could happen to ensure the survival of our
> > civilization, in some form after a major disruption, would be a
> > widespread reliance on electric vehicles.  When the shit hit the fan
> > the cities and their residents would mostly all die right away,
> > because they couldn't get out very far.
> > The remainder, rurally located, would be left to pick up the pieces as
> > they could.
> >
> > Electric vehicles are the supermarkets of the transportation world.
> > They're great, so long as everything's working.  Otherwise, useless.
> > Deathtraps.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Adblue heater element

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Why does adblue need to be heated?  As I recall it is not particularly viscous 
but maybe it will freeze?  But in that case the heater would have to stay on 
when it’s cold. 

Where is the offending unit and how hard is it to replace?

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:54 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250 and
> came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and probably
> essential before the weather turns cold.  Anyone BTDT?
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Re: [MBZ] 300 HP Mercedes 906 Diesel 2005 Thomas freightliner f65, $6, 900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Not much on Wiki about the engine...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_OM906_engine


On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 6:54 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I think DBAG still own Freightliner?
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > Freightliner was one of the brands that Daimler-Chrysler owned wasn't it? 
> > So some of their trucks had MB diesels, inclduing the Freightliner-badged 
> > Sprinters but also heavier trucks. Never heard of it in school buses, not 
> > that I pay much attention.
> > 
> > "Duel Evaporator A/C."
> > 
> > 
> >> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Interesting, a Benz-powered school bus.  I wonder what engine that is 
> >> and what else it might fit into...  Could be a great camper conversion
> >> 
> >> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/873216533327511
> >> 
> >> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] 300 HP Mercedes 906 Diesel 2005 Thomas freightliner f65, $6, 900

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I think DBAG still own Freightliner?

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 5:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Freightliner was one of the brands that Daimler-Chrysler owned wasn't it? So 
> some of their trucks had MB diesels, inclduing the Freightliner-badged 
> Sprinters but also heavier trucks. Never heard of it in school buses, not 
> that I pay much attention.
> 
> "Duel Evaporator A/C."
> 
> 
>> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 5:33 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> Interesting, a Benz-powered school bus.  I wonder what engine that is 
>> and what else it might fit into...  Could be a great camper conversion
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/873216533327511
>> 
>> -- 
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Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix linotype, intertype, and other old presses

[Scott Ritchey via Mercedes]

Solar cells, charge controllers, and EV motor controllers are all built on
semiconductors and all are vulnerable to permanent EMP damage.

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linotype, intertype, and other old presses

You might want to rethink that plan to use solar panel system to recharge
your EV car after EMP event.
https://www.sol-ark.com/can-solar-flares-or-emp-damage-solar-power-systems/#
:~:text=An%20EMP%20damages%20electronics%2C%20particularly,or%20connected%20
to%20electronic%20devices.&text=However%2C%20solar%20panels%20are%20usually,
solar%20electronics%20are%20likewise%20damaged
.

On Wed, Sep 15, 2021 at 12:10 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>  How is that different than ICE vehicles? If I've got an electric 
> vehicle and an off grid solar power system I can generate power to charge
my car.
> It might take weeks but I could do it.
> If I'm out of gas/diesel and there has been a disruption to supply I'm 
> screwed.
> -Curt
>
> On Wednesday, September 15, 2021, 03:05:32 PM EDT, Jim Cathey via 
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>  The best thing that could happen to ensure the survival of our 
> civilization, in some form after a major disruption, would be a 
> widespread reliance on electric vehicles.  When the shit hit the fan 
> the cities and their residents would mostly all die right away, 
> because they couldn't get out very far.
> The remainder, rurally located, would be left to pick up the pieces as 
> they could.
>
> Electric vehicles are the supermarkets of the transportation world.
> They're great, so long as everything's working.  Otherwise, useless.
> Deathtraps.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] Adblue heater element

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Nope

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> The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250 and
> came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and probably
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Re: [MBZ] Surprising lack of interest - BRG 1980 TR7

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Didnt Charlene tilton drive one of those in Dallas? I think it was white.

On Mon, Sep 13, 2021, 7:20 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Sold for $5600. Not a bad deal for what it is. A bargain on BaT!
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 13, 2021, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Don't forget "poor build quality"
> > Curt
> >
> >On Sunday, September 12, 2021, 01:12:25 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Even when new, they were never a very popular car.
> > What they lacked in performance they overcompensated for in lack of
> styling.
> > Bidding in the $5,000 range seems well into top value, in my view.
> >
> > On Sun, Sep 12, 2021 at 9:26 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> >> I'd have thought the price would be at least $10k higher by now.
> >>
> >> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1980-triumph-tr7-22/
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[MBZ] Adblue heater element

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The dealer ran a diagnostic on a check engine alert in my 2014 GLK 250 and
came up with "replace Adblue heater element".  Big $$s to fix and probably
essential before the weather turns cold.  Anyone BTDT?
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Re: [MBZ] I would further assert that the CL600 is indeed rarer than the CL55 AMG worldwide

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

I am appreciating the 1988 560 fuel injection system more and more. Just
have to get used to the fumes at cold idle and appreciate that it is never
going to push the limits of hp per liter. Much better than the 1994 e420 in
the dependability dept, though the m119 is a great motor in other forms.

There is a v12 w140 coupe for sale here for about 4k if anyone wants it.
175k miles but the car literally looks new and has been well maintained as
my mechanic is friends with the guy. He is just too old to drive any more.



On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 8:10 AM G Mann via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Price point is set by assessing $10,000 for the "Rare", and $2,000 for the
> car, it seems.
> If I bought it, I would need to buy 12 sets of coil packs to store with the
> car in a sealed climate controlled room [mouse proof of course] where I let
> it "age to perfection" for a future sale at Pebble Beach...
> By the time that happens, coil packs will no longer be available, and
> having 12 sets [tested and certified] would make the future sale possible.
> Doing that, would the car ever make the $1,000,000,000 sale price or above,
> in 20 years?
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:38 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > Yeah, like the $1,000+ coil packs for each cylinder bank? This is one of
> > those, right?
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > But it appears to be getting no love at this price point, as it has
> been
> > listed previously.  Black on light gray not the most desirable color
> > combination, and the M137 engine is problematic
> > >
> > >
> > > MERCEDES 2002 CL600,12 cylinder - $12,500(TARPON SPRINGS)
> > >
> > >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/tarpon-springs-mercedes-2002-cl60012/7380275791.html
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] 300 HP Mercedes 906 Diesel 2005 Thomas freightliner f65, $6, 900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Freightliner was one of the brands that Daimler-Chrysler owned wasn't it? So 
some of their trucks had MB diesels, inclduing the Freightliner-badged 
Sprinters but also heavier trucks. Never heard of it in school buses, not that 
I pay much attention.

"Duel Evaporator A/C."


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> Interesting, a Benz-powered school bus.  I wonder what engine that is 
> and what else it might fit into...  Could be a great camper conversion
> 
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/873216533327511
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 350SL - 76k miles - $7,000

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This sounds like some kind of Spinal Tap "our amps go to 11" thing.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 5:36 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> So they started at 2 and went to 3 and 4
> 
> --FT
> 
> On 9/16/21 5:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> > The 3 speed transmissions were standard in '72/73 4.5 liter engines.  No
> > first gear.
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Pretty. 3-speed automatic?
> >>
> >>
> >> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1972-mercedes-benz-350sl/7381287714.html
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Yeah the school just happens to be closed today. No one really talks about
why. But is is a very poly cultural neighborhood.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 11:28 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
>
> > Good Yom Kippur to any of you observing it. Schools are shut down here
> > today - even the Public and Catholic ones.
>
> Surprising. When I was a kid we had "Easter Vacation" in the spring but
> some atheist loudmouths felt that was untenable and we've had "Spring
> Break" now for decades.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 1972 350SL - 76k miles - $7,000

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So they started at 2 and went to 3 and 4

--FT

On 9/16/21 5:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

The 3 speed transmissions were standard in '72/73 4.5 liter engines.  No
first gear.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


Pretty. 3-speed automatic?


https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1972-mercedes-benz-350sl/7381287714.html

Allan
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[MBZ] 300 HP Mercedes 906 Diesel 2005 Thomas freightliner f65, $6, 900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Interesting, a Benz-powered school bus.  I wonder what engine that is 
and what else it might fit into...  Could be a great camper conversion


https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/873216533327511

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[MBZ] 2001 Mercedes-Benz coupe Red an black an Mold,$2,200

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/908657010035750

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Re: [MBZ] 1972 350SL - 76k miles - $7,000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

The 3 speed transmissions were standard in '72/73 4.5 liter engines.  No
first gear.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 5:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Pretty. 3-speed automatic?
>
>
> https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1972-mercedes-benz-350sl/7381287714.html
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[MBZ] 1972 350SL - 76k miles - $7,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Pretty. 3-speed automatic?

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/carmel-1972-mercedes-benz-350sl/7381287714.html

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes sedans...or both! 2 Mercedes Sedans (St Augustine)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Kind of high miles but a rust-free W123 is probably getting harder to find, 
might be worth $3K for someone who wanted it.

I wonder if it's a manual or a slushbox?


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> That 240D looks like a good deal.
> 
> -D
> 
> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
> >  wrote:
> > 
> > https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-mercedes-sedans/7381210687.html
> > 
> > Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes sedans...or 
> > both! If they are not sold by the 20th, they will be driven to New England 
> > and sold for a higher cost up there.
> > 1. 2005 Mercedes E320; 97K miles, silver, leather, always garaged and 
> > excellent condition. No rust, 2 new Michelin
> > tires, V6. I don't have a photo, but a reasonable facsimile picture is 
> > attached here. Asking $6500.00 - cash only
> > 2. 1981 Mercedes 240D; 200K miles, 4 cyl diesel, white, no rust, everything 
> > works and is in excellent condition for
> > the year. 2 new tires. Asking $3000.00 OBO. Cash only.
> > Call Stacey - 603-229-7one8three
> > 
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[MBZ] OT: Reno Races

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Are live streaming at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7StGGbNZLbg
You can go back in time and see previous events.

-- 
OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] R350 BLUETECH - $9,900 (Greensboro)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

20 mpg is definitely not something to brag about.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 4:21 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Black on Black ALL WHEEL DRIVE.
>
>
> https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/greensboro-r350-bluetech/7381145430.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes sedans...or both! 2 Mercedes Sedans (St Augustine)

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That 240D looks like a good deal.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 4:15 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-mercedes-sedans/7381210687.html
> 
> Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes sedans...or 
> both! If they are not sold by the 20th, they will be driven to New England 
> and sold for a higher cost up there.
> 1. 2005 Mercedes E320; 97K miles, silver, leather, always garaged and 
> excellent condition. No rust, 2 new Michelin
> tires, V6. I don't have a photo, but a reasonable facsimile picture is 
> attached here. Asking $6500.00 - cash only
> 2. 1981 Mercedes 240D; 200K miles, 4 cyl diesel, white, no rust, everything 
> works and is in excellent condition for
> the year. 2 new tires. Asking $3000.00 OBO. Cash only.
> Call Stacey - 603-229-7one8three
> 
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[MBZ] R350 BLUETECH - $9,900 (Greensboro)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Black on Black ALL WHEEL DRIVE.

https://greensboro.craigslist.org/cto/d/greensboro-r350-bluetech/7381145430.html

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[MBZ] Only Thing She Needs is a Paint Job to be Perfect. 94 Mercedes-Benz E320 - $3, 695 (Conway)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

And for the seller to go to drug rehab

https://myrtlebeach.craigslist.org/cto/d/conway-94-mercedes-benz-e320/7381237428.html

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[MBZ] Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes sedans...or both! 2 Mercedes Sedans (St Augustine)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://staugustine.craigslist.org/cto/d/saint-augustine-mercedes-sedans/7381210687.html

Sept 17-20 is the window of opportunity to buy 1 of 2 Mercedes 
sedans...or both! If they are not sold by the 20th, they will be driven 
to New England and sold for a higher cost up there.
1. 2005 Mercedes E320; 97K miles, silver, leather, always garaged and 
excellent condition. No rust, 2 new Michelin
tires, V6. I don't have a photo, but a reasonable facsimile picture is 
attached here. Asking $6500.00 - cash only
2. 1981 Mercedes 240D; 200K miles, 4 cyl diesel, white, no rust, 
everything works and is in excellent condition for

the year. 2 new tires. Asking $3000.00 OBO. Cash only.
Call Stacey - 603-229-7one8three

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[MBZ] Getting An Abandoned & Ultra Rare Pre-Merger AMG Started After Sitting For 27 Years! Will It Drive?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_59iM-e32oc

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[MBZ] Mercedes-AMG EQS 53 Revealed; 751 Horses on Tap

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.amlu.com/2021/09/16/mercedes-amg-eqs-53-revealed-751-horses-on-tap

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 190, Issue 53, VW FI

[Ronald Courcy via Mercedes]

VW started using FI with the 1968 type 111, continued with the type 4, type 1 I 
think in 1974 maybe 73, type 2
FI around 76. All very reliable but a bit over complicated.

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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
  linotype, intertype, and other old presses (Jim Cathey)
   2. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
  linotype, intertype, and other old presses (G Mann)
   3. Re: OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
  linotype, intertype, and other old presses (Jim Cathey)
   4. Re: OT: Don't see these too often (dan penoff.com)
   5. 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (Allan Streib)
   6. Re: 1998 ML320 - 165k miles - $2,500 (dan penoff.com)
   7. 2003 SLK320 - 54k miles - $12,500 (Allan Streib)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:03:47 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
To: Curt Raymond 
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
linotype, intertype, and other old presses
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> I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel, especially 
> after, say, a month...

Again, not MY ability to refuel.  Just that enough people would be able to 
refuel,
probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization.  With 
EV
the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot.  With ICE, the rot 
is a
month's travel from home before it's on foot.  Which damages more of the
somewhat self-sufficient rural community?

-- Jim




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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:11:00 -0700
From: G Mann 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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I presume your survival vehicle is a pre-computer controlled diesel , and
part of your survival tool kit is a reliable fuel transfer [multiple
options] mechanical device? Aux tanks to extend range?
See Mad Max movie... ;))


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> > I think you're putting a lot of faith into your ability to refuel,
> especially after, say, a month...
>
> Again, not MY ability to refuel.  Just that enough people would be able to
> refuel,
> probably by violence and theft, to help spread the fall of civilization.
> With EV
> the rot is a day's travel from home, and then it's on foot.  With ICE, the
> rot is a
> month's travel from home before it's on foot.  Which damages more of the
> somewhat self-sufficient rural community?
>
> -- Jim
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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 13:28:03 -0700
From: Jim Cathey 
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT for our printer expert -- What it's like to fix
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My _personal_ survival vehicle would be my trusty '97 Dodge 4wd diesel pickup.
100% mechanical if you lash up the P7100's fuel cutoff solenoid, and you can
push/tow-start it if need be.  (Steep hill recommended!)  But I am not a
prepper, in any real sense, so I don't have all that other stuff.  With any 
advance
notice, my first response would be, while civilization still held, to load up
valuables and supplies in said truck/camper, with trailer, and move family and
self to the old family farm.  Then help the locals blow bridges and such, in
fine Lucifer's Hammer tradition.  Trade my sentry, and engineering, services
such as they are for food, hope they'd let me stay.  Alive.

-- Jim




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Date: Wed, 15 Sep 2021 20:38:48 +
From: dan penoff.com 
To: Okie Benz 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Don't see these too ofte

Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Spring break is a term used to justify a vacation regardless of whether
there is a religious holiday.

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> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:
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> > Good Yom Kippur to any of you observing it. Schools are shut down here
> > today - even the Public and Catholic ones.
>
> Surprising. When I was a kid we had "Easter Vacation" in the spring but
> some atheist loudmouths felt that was untenable and we've had "Spring
> Break" now for decades.
>
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes wrote:

> Good Yom Kippur to any of you observing it. Schools are shut down here
> today - even the Public and Catholic ones.

Surprising. When I was a kid we had "Easter Vacation" in the spring but some 
atheist loudmouths felt that was untenable and we've had "Spring Break" now for 
decades.

Allan
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Ok let me know how much and where to send it. Not like I will ever use it
here, but I have already had the car for 20 years so it may well be around
for another 20. It takes the kids and dog to school and violin and the park
and that's about it. Gas pedal fell off the floor the other day so need to
weld in a floor pan patch I guess. The water from the AC drain and snow
used to collect in the heel well and it rusted through. I figure one of the
boys can take it to college somewhere. Still only about 207k I think.

Good Yom Kippur to any of you observing it. Schools are shut down here
today - even the Public and Catholic ones.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021, 8:32 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a band new block heater minus the cord, if anyone wants it for the
> cost of postage.
>
> On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > > but when the ambient was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain
> > operating temperature.
> >
> > I routinely blocked off the radiator on my 200D winter beater.  After the
> > wreck, I even ran without
> > the fan itself.  (Damaged in the wreck.)  When it got too warm to do
> that,
> > it was time to change
> > cars again.
> >
> > -- Jim
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Needs a hood and grill. 1985 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

How do you damage a grille w/o also damaging fender(s) and radiator?

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 12:01 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> and no pics of the damage.  More like $1200 if running and interior is
> decent
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/392377939124987
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[MBZ] The intelligent Module Servo unit has to be replaced. 2008 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 550 4MATIC Sedan 4D, $5, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I'm not sure what that is but it sounds expensive.  Looks like it is 
slammed so maybe something for the suspension?


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[MBZ] Needs a hood and grill. 1985 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 D Sedan 4D

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

and no pics of the damage.  More like $1200 if running and interior is 
decent


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[MBZ] OT: Any surfer dudes out there?

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

You really want this car.

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1950-plymouth-special-deluxe-station-wagon-woody/
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 The first winter I commuted with my '83 240D we had a run of 0F daytime highs. 
I would go out and start the car at lunch and run it around a little to keep 
heat in the engine so it would start after work. That was with M1 0w40 in it. 
With 15w40 conventional I couldn't get it to start reliably below zero without 
the block heater.

-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 11:52:24 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 I figured that out quickly as well. I had a piece of cardboard designated for 
the radiator on that car that cut off about half of the radiator area. That 
gave me reasonable engine temperatures in often sub zero ambients.

However, when I had daytime ambients of -20F or more accompanied by wind I 
would often just let the car idle all day. Not ideal, but far better than 
risking the possibility of not being able to start or having fuel gel. A rare 
occasion, but it did happen.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> but when the ambient was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain 
>> operating temperature.
> 
> I routinely blocked off the radiator on my 200D winter beater.  After the 
> wreck, I even ran without
> the fan itself.  (Damaged in the wreck.)  When it got too warm to do that, it 
> was time to change
> cars again.
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I figured that out quickly as well. I had a piece of cardboard designated for 
the radiator on that car that cut off about half of the radiator area. That 
gave me reasonable engine temperatures in often sub zero ambients.

However, when I had daytime ambients of -20F or more accompanied by wind I 
would often just let the car idle all day. Not ideal, but far better than 
risking the possibility of not being able to start or having fuel gel. A rare 
occasion, but it did happen.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:58 AM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> but when the ambient was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain 
>> operating temperature.
> 
> I routinely blocked off the radiator on my 200D winter beater.  After the 
> wreck, I even ran without
> the fan itself.  (Damaged in the wreck.)  When it got too warm to do that, it 
> was time to change
> cars again.
> 
> -- Jim
> 


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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I have a band new block heater minus the cord, if anyone wants it for the
cost of postage.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 10:59 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> > but when the ambient was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain
> operating temperature.
>
> I routinely blocked off the radiator on my 200D winter beater.  After the
> wreck, I even ran without
> the fan itself.  (Damaged in the wreck.)  When it got too warm to do that,
> it was time to change
> cars again.
>
> -- Jim
>
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Re: [MBZ] I would further assert that the CL600 is indeed rarer than the CL55 AMG worldwide

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Price point is set by assessing $10,000 for the "Rare", and $2,000 for the
car, it seems.
If I bought it, I would need to buy 12 sets of coil packs to store with the
car in a sealed climate controlled room [mouse proof of course] where I let
it "age to perfection" for a future sale at Pebble Beach...
By the time that happens, coil packs will no longer be available, and
having 12 sets [tested and certified] would make the future sale possible.
Doing that, would the car ever make the $1,000,000,000 sale price or above,
in 20 years?


On Thu, Sep 16, 2021 at 7:38 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Yeah, like the $1,000+ coil packs for each cylinder bank? This is one of
> those, right?
>
> -D
>
> > On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > But it appears to be getting no love at this price point, as it has been
> listed previously.  Black on light gray not the most desirable color
> combination, and the M137 engine is problematic
> >
> >
> > MERCEDES 2002 CL600,12 cylinder - $12,500(TARPON SPRINGS)
> >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/tarpon-springs-mercedes-2002-cl60012/7380275791.html
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> but when the ambient was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain 
> operating temperature.

I routinely blocked off the radiator on my 200D winter beater.  After the 
wreck, I even ran without
the fan itself.  (Damaged in the wreck.)  When it got too warm to do that, it 
was time to change
cars again.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

if that was closer I’d take a peek at it. It looks pretty unmolested. I wonder 
if it has any other oddities….

AZBob

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> On Sep 16, 2021, at 7:48 AM, Bob Rentfro  wrote:
> 
> Strange. A car languishing in Yuma with something so unicornish. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> So is there a cushion or something inside the backrest the strap is 
>> connected to, and you slide the strap up and down to position it?
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Oh geez that is the super rare lumbar support. I have never seen it on a 
>>> 123 before, just 116. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
> On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:37 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 Interesting. Never seen those before, but they appear to be factory.
 
 -D
 
> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Mine was in a garage, but I didn’t have the heat on (in the garage) during the 
week. The garage was insulated, but I only ran the heat when I was working in 
it.

This was on a 1979 300TD, so it took FOREVER to heat up in Wisconsin winters. 
Having a block heater not only made it start better, as you described, but I 
would have cabin heat almost instantaneously and throughout my 30 mile highway 
commute to work. Because there was minimal traffic on the highway I was able to 
run at speed (65 mph) after a few miles of spooling up, but when the ambient 
was 20F or below the engine struggled to maintain operating temperature.

-D

On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:48 AM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Geez I loved having a timed block heater. Leave the cabin heat on defrost, the 
heater clicks on at 5am, by 7am the windshield is mostly clear, the car starts 
like it's July. Cabin heat starts by the end of the block...

-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:44:40 AM EDT, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


Yeah, if you’re getting zapped when you touch ground and the car with the 
heater plugged in, the heater is shorted to ground somewhere. Also why when I 
had a timer and cord for a heater in my garage in WI it was on a GFCI 
receptacle.

-D

On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>>>
 wrote:

Yeah, I thought of that just after I sent...

-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:35:17 AM EDT, dan 
penoff.com> via 
Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>
 wrote:


More likely a new heater.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>
>  wrote:
>
> Might be time for a new cord...
> -Curt
>
>On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
> Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>>
>  wrote:
>
> Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
> have it plugged in.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>  wrote:
>
>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
>> $25,000 for it.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone
>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
>>> sell, now is the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> From: 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>;
>>>  
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com>
>>> Reply-to: 
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: 
>>> ka...@striplin.net>
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
>> the
>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
>> quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Geez I loved having a timed block heater. Leave the cabin heat on defrost, the 
heater clicks on at 5am, by 7am the windshield is mostly clear, the car starts 
like it's July. Cabin heat starts by the end of the block...
-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:44:40 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Yeah, if you’re getting zapped when you touch ground and the car with the 
heater plugged in, the heater is shorted to ground somewhere. Also why when I 
had a timer and cord for a heater in my garage in WI it was on a GFCI 
receptacle.

-D

On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I thought of that just after I sent...

-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:35:17 AM EDT, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


More likely a new heater.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Might be time for a new cord...
> -Curt
>
>    On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
>Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
> have it plugged in.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
>> $25,000 for it.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone
>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
>>> sell, now is the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; 
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
>> the
>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
>> quickly.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

Strange. A car languishing in Yuma with something so unicornish. 

AZBob

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> On Sep 16, 2021, at 7:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> So is there a cushion or something inside the backrest the strap is 
> connected to, and you slide the strap up and down to position it?
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
>> 
>> Oh geez that is the super rare lumbar support. I have never seen it on a 123 
>> before, just 116. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:37 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Interesting. Never seen those before, but they appear to be factory.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
 
 What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 
 
 AZBob
 
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Re: [MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

So is there a cushion or something inside the backrest the strap is connected 
to, and you slide the strap up and down to position it?

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:44 AM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Oh geez that is the super rare lumbar support. I have never seen it on a 123 
> before, just 116. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:37 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
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>> 
>> Interesting. Never seen those before, but they appear to be factory.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, if you’re getting zapped when you touch ground and the car with the 
heater plugged in, the heater is shorted to ground somewhere. Also why when I 
had a timer and cord for a heater in my garage in WI it was on a GFCI 
receptacle.

-D

On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:38 AM, Curt Raymond 
mailto:curtlud...@yahoo.com>> wrote:

Yeah, I thought of that just after I sent...

-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:35:17 AM EDT, dan 
penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:


More likely a new heater.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Might be time for a new cord...
> -Curt
>
>On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
> have it plugged in.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
>> $25,000 for it.
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>
>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone
>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
>>> sell, now is the time.
>>>
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; 
>>> davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
>>>
>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
>> the
>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
>> quickly.
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Oh geez that is the super rare lumbar support. I have never seen it on a 123 
before, just 116. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:37 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Interesting. Never seen those before, but they appear to be factory.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> Bob Rentfro
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Yeah, I thought of that just after I sent...
-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:35:17 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 More likely a new heater.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be time for a new cord...
> -Curt
> 
>    On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
>Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
> have it plugged in.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
>> $25,000 for it.
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone
>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
>>> sell, now is the time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
>> the
>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
>> quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] I would further assert that the CL600 is indeed rarer than the CL55 AMG worldwide

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Yeah, like the $1,000+ coil packs for each cylinder bank? This is one of those, 
right?

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> But it appears to be getting no love at this price point, as it has been 
> listed previously.  Black on light gray not the most desirable color 
> combination, and the M137 engine is problematic
> 
> 
> MERCEDES 2002 CL600,12 cylinder - $12,500(TARPON SPRINGS)
> 
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Re: [MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Interesting. Never seen those before, but they appear to be factory.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:11 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://yuma.craigslist.org/cto/d/yuma-1978-mercedes-benz-300d/7380947642.html
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

More likely a new heater.

-D

> On Sep 16, 2021, at 10:25 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Might be time for a new cord...
> -Curt
> 
>On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
> Mercedes  wrote:  
> 
> Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
> have it plugged in.
> 
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
>> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
>> $25,000 for it.
>> 
>> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> All the government stimmy bux are gone
>>> We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
>>> months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
>>> sell, now is the time.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Rick
>>> 
>>> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
>>> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
>>> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
>>> Cc: ka...@striplin.net
>>> Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
>>> 
>>> Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
>>> turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
>> the
>>> last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
>> quickly.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

 Might be time for a new cord...
-Curt

On Thursday, September 16, 2021, 10:23:26 AM EDT, Karl Wittnebel via 
Mercedes  wrote:  
 
 Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
have it plugged in.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
> $25,000 for it.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > All the government stimmy bux are gone
> > We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
> > months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
> > sell, now is the time.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> > Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
> >
> > Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
> > turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
> the
> > last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
> quickly.
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Re: [MBZ] 123 prices

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Mine does also but touching the block will shock the hell out of you if you
have it plugged in.

On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:03 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My 300td with the block heater has an electric cord dangling down beneath
> the radiator. I will Market it as a hybrid diesel-electric vehicle and get
> $25,000 for it.
>
> On Sun, Sep 12, 2021, 1:34 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > All the government stimmy bux are gone
> > We will be seeing a LOT of stuff at fire sale prices, very soon (six
> > months or less). If you've got cars, houses,  (fill in the blank) to
> > sell, now is the time.
> >
> >
> > Rick
> >
> > From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Sent: September 12, 2021 12:11 PM
> > To: mercedes@okiebenz.com; davesl...@okiebenz.com
> > Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > Cc: ka...@striplin.net
> > Subject: [MBZ] 123 prices
> >
> > Perhaps the 123 craze is fading? I am stating to see fairly decent 123
> > turbos being listed for under $3k now and they seem to sit a while. In
> the
> > last year such a car would be listed for $4k or well above and sell
> quickly.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] FB 124 Group

[Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes]

Come on you knew that without looking. Funny thing is the correct style
compressor is only like 70 bucks.

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> Appears to be infested with morons.
> See screenshot.
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[MBZ] What Are the Straps on the Seats?

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

What are the straps on the back of the front seats? 

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[MBZ] I would further assert that the CL600 is indeed rarer than the CL55 AMG worldwide

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

But it appears to be getting no love at this price point, as it has been 
listed previously.  Black on light gray not the most desirable color 
combination, and the M137 engine is problematic



 MERCEDES 2002 CL600,12 cylinder - $12,500(TARPON SPRINGS)

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/cto/d/tarpon-springs-mercedes-2002-cl60012/7380275791.html

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[MBZ] body is crunched but runs great 2008 E350 Wagon 4MATIC low miles - $4, 950 (Chapel Hill)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

The park job, dinged wheels and crunches sorta explain the driving 
abilities.  No interior pics


$3k as it sits, probably be a decent ride

https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/carrboro-2008-e350-wagon-4matic-low/7380872316.html

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[MBZ] YOU CAN LOOK BUT YOU WON'T FIND ONE THIS CLEAN!!!!!! 1997 MERCEDES BENZ S500V - $10, 500 (Sanford)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

V Limo version for women realtors to haul clients around.  It is very 
clean but the threats related to the wheels are off-putting


https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/cumnock-1997-mercedes-benz-s500v/7380927295.html

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