Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
Actually, the 707 was a more modern design based on the 135.

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From: Mercedes On Behalf Of OK Don via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 7:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

KC-135 and E3 AWACS fly over/near our house all the time - both based on the 
707. We can easily distinguish them from the other jets out of Tinker AFB - the 
maintenance hub for these.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:18 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < 
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 
> 707s. I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it 
> > never
> sold as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation.
> >
> > Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 
> >> 1980s
> as a member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a 
> private travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. 
> Both of these were used for international and long-haul domestic 
> flights as well as charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet 
> but I don’t have pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in 
> the late 80s.
> >>
> >> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively 
> >> with
> them overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with 
> them as well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
> >>
> >> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were
> standing next to them out on the tarmac.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>  On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda.
> Would have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> >>>
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I
> believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the 
> engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been 
> more commercially viable.
> >>>
> >>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the
> L-1011 was their swan song.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>  Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
> 
>  Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>  part
> of the
>  fun.  :D
> 
>  My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it 
>  BSODed
> and we
>  hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
> 
>  -MMM-
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[MBZ] KC135 Trivia Was RE: OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
No longer a factor.  All surviving KC135s are reengined from the old J57 
turbojet to more modern fan engines with twice the thrust and 25-40% better 
fuel specifics.  
A classmate (with much KC time) once opined the better engines would only force 
them to take off with more fuel from shorter runways.  Back in the J57 days it 
was typical to offload fuel before take off on hot days (while taxiing to the 
runway).  
The basic KC EWO mission was to proceed to the assigned orbit and pass gas 
until they themselves flamed out or were recalled. 
With care, the KC boom could tow an unpowered fighter, done several times in 
SEA.

On\, December 4, 2021 6:59 PM, Peter Frederick wrote

Good thing my high end hearing isn't good anyway then!  Turbojets scream 
something aweful!  

On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet (J57) 
> takeoff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
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> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
> 
> All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
> remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
> engines.
> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
>> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>>> 
>>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
 member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
 travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
 were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
 charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have 
 pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
 
 My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
 overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as 
 well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
 
 They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
 next to them out on the tarmac.
 
 -D
 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
> the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have 
> been more commercially viable.
> 
> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
> was their swan song.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>> 
>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>> part of the fun.  :D
>> 
>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it 
>> BSODed and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>> 
>> -MMM-
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[MBZ] Because you can never have enough moose

2021-12-04 Thread G Mann via Mercedes 
Discovered this, thought it should be shared.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UZpOvnAL_M
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Russ Williams via Mercedes 
My Sister-in-Law was a Crypto Specialist on Looking Glass for 25 of her 
30 years

in the AF.

RW

On 12/4/2021 18:43, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

Got a tour once of a Looking Glass KC-135 at Offutt. It looked really 
uncomfortable. Had a comms exchange with one orbiting at the pole keeping an 
eye on the russkies ready to rain fire on them.

--FT
Sent from iFōn


On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes  
wrote:

We have KC135s in Tampa at MacDill AFB. Can’t get that close to the base to 
plane watch, but I do try to catch the traffic on my scanner and step out so I 
can see them fly over the house.

-D


On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes  
wrote:

You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet (J57) 
takeoff.

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Cc: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
engines.


On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. I 
flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.

-D


On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
 wrote:

The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold as 
well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation.

Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.



On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private travel 
club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these were used 
for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as charters. There was 
a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures of it. I think it was 
destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.

My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
they might have had more, I don’t recall.

They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing next 
to them out on the tarmac.

-D


On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
wrote:

L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would have 
been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...

Curt

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its time. 
I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't 
been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more commercially viable.

Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
their swan song.




On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.

Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's
part of the fun.  :D

My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed
and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.

-MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Digest mode not working?

2021-12-04 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes 

I'm getting Okietalk digests, several a day.
Not a digest subscriber to MBZ.
I think Okiebenz has been put on some spam lists lately, whatever list 
Hostgator uses trashed all my list emails on two occasions already this 
year. HG won't tell me they're rejecting my incoming mail, but they send 
bounce messages to the server and Kaleb kicks me off.


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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Maybe but it's a short tube. The dryer is against an outside wall so it vents 
straight out the back and through the wall.

Incidentally the noise from the fridge was getting worse, so I took the back 
panel off and it was pretty clearly the condensor fan that was making the 
noise. I removed the assembly holding the fan (one screw secures it). The thing 
is definitely built down to a price but at the same time it's very easy to get 
it out and replace it if it comes to that. I was able to get at the motor 
bearings and put a few drops of my favorite Lubriplate oil on them, then 
cleaned all the dust and grime off the fan blades. It's running silently for 
now, we'll see how long it lasts.

Allan

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 7:31 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
> I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:52 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
>> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
>> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
>> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>>
>> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> >
>> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
>> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
>> year.
>> >
>> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
>> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
>> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
>> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
>> they just gotta eat it...
>> >
>> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
>> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
>> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
>> nests.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
>> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
>> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
>> some traps, but caught nothing.
>> >
>> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
>> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
>> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
>> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
>> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
>> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
>> >
>> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
>> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
>> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
>> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
>> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
>> the woods).
>> >
>> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
>> started getting noisy.
>> >
>> > Allan
>> >
>> >
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Re: [MBZ] Digest mode not working?

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Whoever the list member is might want to follow the link to the list 
page and check to see if their mail has not been disabled due to bounces.


On 12/4/2021 9:14 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

I was contacted off-list by a member who seems to be on digest mode, and has 
not received any list messages recently. Kaleb might want to check into whether 
something is wrong with digest mode, or maybe it was shut off unintentionally?
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[MBZ] Digest mode not working?

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
I was contacted off-list by a member who seems to be on digest mode, and has 
not received any list messages recently. Kaleb might want to check into whether 
something is wrong with digest mode, or maybe it was shut off unintentionally?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Amtrak is a complete joke. Took a trip once for the experience, was over 24 
hours late to destination. Never again.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 8:10 PM, Clay via Mercedes wrote:
> Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in 
> Spokane WA is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going 
> through the Columbia River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, 
> while the rest of the train continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time 
> the engine, at midnight, have to be rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a 
> “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, but now the two step is to 
> keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and engineer can be roused 
> from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the way, four or more 
> hours late.
>
> I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the 
> sky needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either 
> remain on or fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens 
> of thousands of feet.
>
> ---
> clay
>
> I turned my computer upside down and shook it, but the bookmark for 
> what I'm looking for didn't fall out.
>
>
>
>
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the third 
>> or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they gave up 
>> and called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so they 
>> just swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 minute 
>> delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where they 
>> had maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 - 134k miles - $4,000

2021-12-04 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes 

On 2021-12-04 19:47, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

That’s the rare 3.7L variant


Rare ML transplant?

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Re: [MBZ] 2001 E320 4matic AWD - 218k miles - $3,500

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
They are selling for that in a few days here now. It's a different market
than it was not that long ago.

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> Stupid money for a 210 with those miles
>
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> > Looks really clean, but Toledo is serious rust belt territory.
> >
> >
> https://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/d/sylvania-2001-mercedes-e320-4matic-awd/7416500984.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Clay via Mercedes 
Amtrak Empire Builder seems to run on windows software.  The stop in Spokane WA 
is where the cars decouple, with the observation car going through the Columbia 
River Gorge (in the DARK) scenic area to PDX, while the rest of the train 
continues to SEA.  Except, most of the time the engine, at midnight, have to be 
rebooted endlessly.  Used to have a “spare” engine on hand that could swap out, 
but now the two step is to keep on rebooting until the BNSF locomotive and 
engineer can be roused from sleep and made to haul the thing the rest of the 
way, four or more hours late.

I would not be entertained to find something that would fall out of the sky 
needing reboot mid-flight.  At least a train has rails to either remain on or 
fall off at a meager 60mph, not hundreds of knots and tens of thousands of feet.

---
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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 10:12 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the third 
> or fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they gave up and 
> called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so they just 
> swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 minute 
> delay. I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where they had 
> maintenance staff and parts on hand.
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Re: [MBZ] 2001 E320 4matic AWD - 218k miles - $3,500

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Stupid money for a 210 with those miles

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> Looks really clean, but Toledo is serious rust belt territory.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E320 - 134k miles - $4,000

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
That’s the rare 3.7L variant 

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> Looks pretty clean also.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML tars

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Ahh, ok that makes sense. I looked that up once and forgot the details since. 

I looked at some of the other tires in the fleet snd couldn’t find date codes. 

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:41 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> IIRC, that is the 24th week of 2014, not that it matters.
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 6:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> So the date code on these Lizetti tires on the ML is 2414 which I guess
>> means either 2 or 4 of 2014. That tracks with the guy at the distributor
>> telling me they discontinued them 7yr ago. Tires look good though , lots of
>> tread on them, I thought they were nearly new. H.
>> 
>> I think I’ll get a cheap replacement from El Mercado de Wal for the one
>> that seems to be bad then think about a new set when Mr Budget says to do
>> it.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Got a tour once of a Looking Glass KC-135 at Offutt. It looked really 
uncomfortable. Had a comms exchange with one orbiting at the pole keeping an 
eye on the russkies ready to rain fire on them. 

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 7:37 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> We have KC135s in Tampa at MacDill AFB. Can’t get that close to the base to 
> plane watch, but I do try to catch the traffic on my scanner and step out so 
> I can see them fly over the house.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet 
>> (J57) takeoff.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
>> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
>> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
>> Cc: Peter Frederick 
>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
>> 
>> All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
>> remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
>> engines.
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 
>>> 707s. I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
 as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
 
 Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
 
 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as 
> a member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of 
> these were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well 
> as charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have 
> pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
> 
> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with 
> them overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them 
> as well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
> 
> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were 
> standing next to them out on the tarmac.
> 
> -D
> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>> 
>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
>> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for 
>> its time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. 
>> If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have 
>> been more commercially viable.
>> 
>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
>> was their swan song.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>>> 
>>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>>> part of the fun.  :D
>>> 
>>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed 
>>> and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] ML tars

2021-12-04 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes 

On 2021-12-04 19:09, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

So the date code on these Lizetti tires on the ML is 2414 which I
guess means either 2 or 4 of 2014.


2014, week 24.
Or June 2014

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Re: [MBZ] ML tars

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
IIRC, that is the 24th week of 2014, not that it matters.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 6:10 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> So the date code on these Lizetti tires on the ML is 2414 which I guess
> means either 2 or 4 of 2014. That tracks with the guy at the distributor
> telling me they discontinued them 7yr ago. Tires look good though , lots of
> tread on them, I thought they were nearly new. H.
>
> I think I’ll get a cheap replacement from El Mercado de Wal for the one
> that seems to be bad then think about a new set when Mr Budget says to do
> it.
>
> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
KC-135 and E3 AWACS fly over/near our house all the time - both based on
the 707. We can easily distinguish them from the other jets out of Tinker
AFB - the maintenance hub for these.

On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 5:18 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying
> 707s. I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never
> sold as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation.
> >
> > Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
> >
> >
> >> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >>
> >> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s
> as a member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private
> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these
> were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as
> charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures
> of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
> >>
> >> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with
> them overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as
> well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
> >>
> >> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were
> standing next to them out on the tarmac.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
>  On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda.
> Would have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> >>>
> >>> Curt
> >>>
> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> >>>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes<
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I
> believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines
> hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more
> commercially viable.
> >>>
> >>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the
> L-1011 was their swan song.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes
> wrote:
>  Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
> 
>  Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part
> of the
>  fun.  :D
> 
>  My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed
> and we
>  hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
> 
>  -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] 2000 E320 4Matic - 128k miles - $3,800

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Looks nice but about $1k high. You could get a newer 211 for that money

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> Sat 3 years, new transmission.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
We have KC135s in Tampa at MacDill AFB. Can’t get that close to the base to 
plane watch, but I do try to catch the traffic on my scanner and step out so I 
can see them fly over the house.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:53 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet 
> (J57) takeoff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
> 
> All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
> remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
> engines.
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
>> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>>> 
>>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
 member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
 travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
 were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
 charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have 
 pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
 
 My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
 overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as 
 well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
 
 They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
 next to them out on the tarmac.
 
 -D
 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
> the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have 
> been more commercially viable.
> 
> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
> was their swan song.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>> 
>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>> part of the fun.  :D
>> 
>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed 
>> and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
They don't last forever. I had to rebuild my W116 pump when I got the car. 

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> Ah, yes. I forgot that. I did have to rebuild the vacuum pump on my 220D,
> but I don't remember why.
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:43 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
>> These have manual shutoff, no vacuum. It could be the vacuum pump making
>> noise.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 2:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I would have said pull the valve cover and look at the rocker arms until
>> > you opened the fill cap and the sound didn't change. You had vacuum to
>> kill
>> > it, so not the vacuum pump. A rod???
>> >
>> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Finally got it to run. Supposedly engine was rebuilt and within a short
>> >> period of time, it started making noise. I see what they are talking
>> about.
>> >> Need to figure out if it’s serous or something simple.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> https://youtu.be/QcW1WPt2cek
>> >>
>> >>
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>> > --
>> > OK Don
>> >
>> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> >
>> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>> > Von Braun
>> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
I would suspect that your dryer vent tube might be perforated.

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> May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer
> vent is missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer
> isn't running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught
> several of them in traps set the laundry room.
>
> I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >
> > Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little
> holes I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next
> year.
> >
> > For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in
> there. Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9
> pouches and I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate
> the seat cover this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year
> they just gotta eat it...
> >
> > The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It
> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble
> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no
> nests.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> > Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading
> the house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening
> somewhere that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set
> some traps, but caught nothing.
> >
> > Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to
> investigate. Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or
> at least a vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I
> had come up one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back
> on. So, I left the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to
> pick up a new one, but then forgot about it.
> >
> > Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the
> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot
> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still
> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with
> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into
> the woods).
> >
> > Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't
> started getting noisy.
> >
> > Allan
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
Ah, yes. I forgot that. I did have to rebuild the vacuum pump on my 220D,
but I don't remember why.

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> These have manual shutoff, no vacuum. It could be the vacuum pump making
> noise.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 2:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > I would have said pull the valve cover and look at the rocker arms until
> > you opened the fill cap and the sound didn't change. You had vacuum to
> kill
> > it, so not the vacuum pump. A rod???
> >
> >> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Finally got it to run. Supposedly engine was rebuilt and within a short
> >> period of time, it started making noise. I see what they are talking
> about.
> >> Need to figure out if it’s serous or something simple.
> >>
> >>
> >> https://youtu.be/QcW1WPt2cek
> >>
> >>
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> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] ML tars

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
So the date code on these Lizetti tires on the ML is 2414 which I guess means 
either 2 or 4 of 2014. That tracks with the guy at the distributor telling me 
they discontinued them 7yr ago. Tires look good though , lots of tread on them, 
I thought they were nearly new. H. 

I think I’ll get a cheap replacement from El Mercado de Wal for the one that 
seems to be bad then think about a new set when Mr Budget says to do it. 

--FT
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Re: [MBZ] here we are again -- 2003 Mercedes E320 V6, loaded. just serviced PLEASE READ AD! $2500 - $2, 500 (RALEIGH)

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
I’ve got 2 CPSs (one for my wagon spare and one for this car) in my Scary 
Wimmens cart, I’m trying hard not to order them then get in touch with this guy 
and go up there to collect this thing. 

--FT
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> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:46 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 99% chance it’s the CPS. $30 for the part an 10-15 minutes to swap it out. I 
> wonder if it’s throwing a CEL? They will do it if you crank it enough.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 3, 2021, at 9:41 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I am so tempted to go get this thing
>> 
>> CAR STARTS, BUT THEN DIES, WILL NOT STAY RUNNING.. 2003 Mercedes E320 178k 
>> miles, 2nd owner..V6 that just had its major service done 60 days ago, that 
>> included timing chain, tensioner, all gaskets hoses, etc we had just had 
>> it detailed and they washed the engine and now it starts and wont stay 
>> running
>> 
>> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/raleigh-2003-mercedes-e320-v6-loaded/7415833979.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
Good thing my high end hearing isn't good anyway then!  Turbojets scream 
something aweful!  

On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:52 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

> You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet (J57) 
> takeoff.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
> Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: Peter Frederick 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft
> 
> All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
> remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
> engines.
> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> 
>> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
>> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>>> 
>>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 
 I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
 member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
 travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
 were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
 charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have 
 pictures of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
 
 My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
 overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as 
 well, they might have had more, I don’t recall.
 
 They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
 next to them out on the tarmac.
 
 -D
 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> 
> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
> 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
> the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have 
> been more commercially viable.
> 
> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
> was their swan song.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>> 
>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
>> part of the fun.  :D
>> 
>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed 
>> and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
You ain't heard nuthin 'til you are in the back of a KC135 during a wet (J57) 
takeoff.

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes On Behalf Of Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 4, 2021 6:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List 
Cc: Peter Frederick 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
engines.

On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>> 
>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
>>> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
>>> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
>>> were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
>>> charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures 
>>> of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
>>> 
>>> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
>>> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
>>> they might have had more, I don’t recall.
>>> 
>>> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
>>> next to them out on the tarmac.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
 have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
 
 Curt
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
 
 On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
 Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
 time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
 the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been 
 more commercially viable.
 
 Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
 was their swan song.
 
 
 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
> 
> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's 
> part of the fun.  :D
> 
> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed 
> and we hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT mouse capital punishment

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
May have figured out where the little f---ers are getting in. The dryer vent is 
missing one of the flaps that are supposed to close when the dryer isn't 
running. It's only a few inches above ground level. And I have caught several 
of them in traps set the laundry room.

I picked up a new vent at Lowes, will install it tomorrow.


On Thu, Dec 2, 2021, at 1:50 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
> 
> Our house up north has terrible mouse issues, it's got a million little holes 
> I need to fix, replacing the enclosed porch floor being job 1 next year.
> 
> For this year I put a package of "Grandpa Gus" anti-mouse stuff in there. 
> Each pouch is supposed to protect 50 square feet. The house got 9 pouches and 
> I put one in the garage on the Farmall Super M. Dang mice ate the seat cover 
> this year. Didn't bother it for 20 years and then this year they just gotta 
> eat it...
> 
> The grooming machines get pieces of cloth soaked in peppermint oil. It 
> doesn't 100% repel them but helps a ton. We used to have terrible trouble 
> with mice, now they're just an annoyance, a few poops here and there but no 
> nests.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Thursday, December 2, 2021, 12:31:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Living in the country I fight an endless battle against mice invading the 
> house. I am not sure where they get in but there must be an opening somewhere 
> that I haven't discovered. I heard one the other night and set some traps, 
> but caught nothing.
> 
> Today the refrigerator was making a noise so I pulled it out to investigate. 
> Seems like the condensor fan motor might have a bad bearing or at least a 
> vibration. A couple of years ago we painted the kitchen, and I had come up 
> one outlet cover short when it came to putting them all back on. So, I left 
> the cover off the outlet behind the fridge, intending to pick up a new one, 
> but then forgot about it.
> 
> Hanging out of the outlet box was the mouse. Must have climbed the 
> refrigerator power cord and stuck his head into the box, contacted the hot 
> terminal, and zappo. Didn't trip the breaker though, as the fridge is still 
> running. Wasn't sure of the shock risk so pulled the corpse out with 
> electrician's pliers. I then gave it the usual final rites (threw it into the 
> woods).
> 
> Who knows how long it would have been hanging there if the fridge hadn't 
> started getting noisy.
> 
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
I've heard it called Jack Welch disease, but it's really Bably Boomer Tantrum 
disease.  Long term planning doesn't extend past tomorrow at breakfast, and 
squeezing money out at any cost is all that counts., once the husk is dry you 
sell the company and buy another.  The only thing that counts is getting what 
you want the instant you want it!

Been watching this coming for decades, and it's why we have "supply chain" 
issues.  Half the energy wasted in the world is used shipping raw materials all 
over the world to make goods that are shipped back

Peter

On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

> We used to have Douglas, then McDonnell-Douglas, then they merged with 
> Boeing, unfortunately although the name Boeing survived, it seems like the 
> engineering culture of the old Boeing was dominated by the business culture 
> of MD.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 3:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> It’s really sad we basically only have airbus and Boeing for main line 
>> commercial aircraft. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first 
>>> commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced 
>>> wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more commercially viable.
>>> 
>>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
>>> was their swan song.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
 Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
 
 Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
 fun.  :D
 
 My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
 hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
 
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[MBZ] 2004 E320 - 134k miles - $4,000

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Looks pretty clean also.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/cto/d/lombard-2004-mercedes-benz-l/7416450072.html
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[MBZ] 2001 E320 4matic AWD - 218k miles - $3,500

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Looks really clean, but Toledo is serious rust belt territory.

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[MBZ] 2000 E320 4Matic - 128k miles - $3,800

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Sat 3 years, new transmission.

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Re: [MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
Wound up having to rebuild the vacuum pump on my 220D.  That, Diesel Purge
and pencil glow plugs improved matters considerably.

-MMM-

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> > I would have said pull the valve cover and look at the rocker arms until
> > you opened the fill cap and the sound didn't change. You had vacuum to
> kill
> > it, so not the vacuum pump. A rod???
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
I remember, it was a BAC 111.  Baby Trident, one of the earliest T-tail rear 
engine planes.


On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>> 
>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
>>> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
>>> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
>>> were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
>>> charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures 
>>> of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
>>> 
>>> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
>>> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
>>> they might have had more, I don’t recall.
>>> 
>>> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
>>> next to them out on the tarmac.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
 have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
 
 Curt
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
 Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
 time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
 the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been 
 more commercially viable.
 
 Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
 was their swan song.
 
 
 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
> 
> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
> fun.  :D
> 
> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
All the low bypass turbojets are noisy.  I flew in a British one once, don't 
remember what it was, but it had two Rolls Conways in the back.  Very noisy 
engines.

On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. 
> I flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold 
>> as well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
>> 
>> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> 
>>> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
>>> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private 
>>> travel club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these 
>>> were used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as 
>>> charters. There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures 
>>> of it. I think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
>>> 
>>> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
>>> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
>>> they might have had more, I don’t recall.
>>> 
>>> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
>>> next to them out on the tarmac.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
 
 L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
 have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
 
 Curt
 
 Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
 On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
 Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
 time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If 
 the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been 
 more commercially viable.
 
 Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
 was their swan song.
 
 
 
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
> 
> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
> fun.  :D
> 
> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
We used to have Douglas, then McDonnell-Douglas, then they merged with Boeing, 
unfortunately although the name Boeing survived, it seems like the engineering 
culture of the old Boeing was dominated by the business culture of MD.


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> It’s really sad we basically only have airbus and Boeing for main line 
> commercial aircraft. 
>
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>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first 
>> commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced 
>> wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more commercially viable.
>> 
>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
>> their swan song.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>>> 
>>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
>>> fun.  :D
>>> 
>>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
>>> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
When the family first started with Ambassadair, they were still flying 707s. I 
flew them a couple times. Noisy as heck as I recall.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:13 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold as 
> well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 
> 
> Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.
> 
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
>> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private travel 
>> club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these were 
>> used for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as charters. 
>> There was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures of it. I 
>> think it was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
>> 
>> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
>> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
>> they might have had more, I don’t recall.
>> 
>> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
>> next to them out on the tarmac.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
>>> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
>>> 
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
>>> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
>>> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the 
>>> engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more 
>>> commercially viable.
>>> 
>>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 
>>> was their swan song.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
 Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
 
 Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
 fun.  :D
 
 My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
 hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes 
The L-1011 was probably the best of that generation,  sadly it never sold as 
well as the DC-10, which was NOT the best of that generation. 

Beautiful aircraft, and I've heard it was nice to fly as well.


On Dec 4, 2021, at 4:54 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

> I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
> member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private travel 
> club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these were used 
> for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as charters. There 
> was a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures of it. I think it 
> was destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.
> 
> My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
> overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
> they might have had more, I don’t recall.
> 
> They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing 
> next to them out on the tarmac.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would 
>> have been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
>> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the 
>> engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more 
>> commercially viable.
>> 
>> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
>> their swan song.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>>> 
>>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
>>> fun.  :D
>>> 
>>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
>>> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
I flew on N194AT and N163AT frequently in the early half of the 1980s as a 
member of a “Ambassadair”, later known as “ATA” when it was a private travel 
club. One was a -100 variant, the other a -500 model. Both of these were used 
for international and long-haul domestic flights as well as charters. There was 
a third L-1011 in their fleet but I don’t have pictures of it. I think it was 
destroyed in a ground fire in the late 80s.

My Mom did many, many hours in these as she traveled extensively with them 
overseas. They had at least one DC-10 I know she flew in with them as well, 
they might have had more, I don’t recall.

They were wonderful aircraft, and really impressive when you were standing next 
to them out on the tarmac.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:33 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would have 
> been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...
> 
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its 
> time. I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the 
> engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more 
> commercially viable.
> 
> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
> their swan song.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>> 
>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
>> fun.  :D
>> 
>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
>> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>> 
>> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I have bubbles in brake line

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
If you open the bleeders too far they can suck air around the threads and you 
get steady small bubbles. I've only seen that happen when trying to vacuum 
bleed (Miti-Vac) though.

Allan

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> Doing a tire rotation, new front pads and calipers, and brake fluid 
> flush. With just a flush, why would I be getting a steady steam of 
> bubbles? Brakes worked just fine and the system has not been opened? 
> This is pressure bleeding then.
>
> While braking front end shook like warped rotors. I went ahead and 
> replaced them but the pads and rotors looked like new. Maybe they were 
> not broken in properly?
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
It's probably a custom build of Windows that has only the drivers and features 
it needs for that specific hardware and application. The Windows kernel (NT) is 
pretty solid -- probably at least as stable as the Linux kernel. It's the 
drivers and hardware of dubious quality that are the source of most Windows 
instablity.


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> The aircraft avionics have proprietary  custom coded OS's that have to pass
> very rigorous testing before they are certified for use. That having been
> said, I use a non-certified device for navigation that runs on embedded
> Windows (can't remember what the official name is). It's never failed us in
> 10 years of use. The same company sells versions of the software that runs
> on Windows, Android, and IOS - very nice to have the exact same software on
> whatever platform you have.
> The main selling point of the embedded Windows device is the 1200 NIT
> screen and that it doesn't do anything else - dedicated to navigation.
>
> Some of the airbus reboot efforts could be stymied by the built-in backup
> batteries in most of those devices (EFIS).
>
> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:11 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in the air and
>> suddenly see the blue screen of death. However, I would be willing to bet
>> modern avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or Linux kernel. I would
>> hope so, at least. Maybe Grant knows?
>>
>> I never rely on onboard entertainment. If it’s there, great. If not, I’ve
>> got reading material. Wanted to go retro today, so I watched “Wayne’s
>> World” on the TPA/DFW flight. Silly and mindless, but entertaining none the
>> less.
>>
>> -D
>>
>> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X.
>> Finally got it to work. Was not encouraging.
>> >
>> > I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would
>> not work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No
>> luck. The manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do
>> something. It was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities.
>> The FAs spent a lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives
>> were restless with no electronic pacifiers until we gave up.
>> >
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iFōn
>> >
>> >> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the
>> early flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some
>> flavor. Got delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the
>> flight computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft,
>> which still didn’t help.
>> >>
>> >> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace
>> electronics before we were airworthy and could push back.
>> >>
>> >> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but
>> came up to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does
>> it suck to run with a face mask on.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the
>> opportunity to rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a
>> whopping 18-25 minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time
>> taxiing than in the air on that flight.
>> >>
>> >> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>> >>
>> >> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>> >>
>> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Why do I have bubbles in brake line

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Photo attached 



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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 3:21 PM, Kaleb Striplin  wrote:
> 
> Doing a tire rotation, new front pads and calipers, and brake fluid flush. 
> With just a flush, why would I be getting a steady steam of bubbles? Brakes 
> worked just fine and the system has not been opened? This is pressure 
> bleeding then.
> 
> While braking front end shook like warped rotors. I went ahead and replaced 
> them but the pads and rotors looked like new. Maybe they were not broken in 
> properly?
> 
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[MBZ] Why do I have bubbles in brake line

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Doing a tire rotation, new front pads and calipers, and brake fluid flush. With 
just a flush, why would I be getting a steady steam of bubbles? Brakes worked 
just fine and the system has not been opened? This is pressure bleeding then.

While braking front end shook like warped rotors. I went ahead and replaced 
them but the pads and rotors looked like new. Maybe they were not broken in 
properly?

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Re: [MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
These have manual shutoff, no vacuum. It could be the vacuum pump making noise. 

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 2:25 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> I would have said pull the valve cover and look at the rocker arms until
> you opened the fill cap and the sound didn't change. You had vacuum to kill
> it, so not the vacuum pump. A rod???
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:01 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Finally got it to run. Supposedly engine was rebuilt and within a short
>> period of time, it started making noise. I see what they are talking about.
>> Need to figure out if it’s serous or something simple.
>> 
>> 
>> https://youtu.be/QcW1WPt2cek
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
L-1011 was the first "big" jet I ever flew in. Boston to Bermuda. Would have 
been '87 or so. We took a 727 Portland to Boston...

Curt

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  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:37 PM, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes wrote:   L-1011 was very advanced for its time. 
I believe it was the first commercial airliner with auto-land. If the engines 
hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls Royce they might have been more 
commercially viable.

Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
their swan song.



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>
> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
> fun.  :D
>
> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
I would have said pull the valve cover and look at the rocker arms until
you opened the fill cap and the sound didn't change. You had vacuum to kill
it, so not the vacuum pump. A rod???

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Finally got it to run. Supposedly engine was rebuilt and within a short
> period of time, it started making noise. I see what they are talking about.
> Need to figure out if it’s serous or something simple.
>
>
> https://youtu.be/QcW1WPt2cek
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
The aircraft avionics have proprietary  custom coded OS's that have to pass
very rigorous testing before they are certified for use. That having been
said, I use a non-certified device for navigation that runs on embedded
Windows (can't remember what the official name is). It's never failed us in
10 years of use. The same company sells versions of the software that runs
on Windows, Android, and IOS - very nice to have the exact same software on
whatever platform you have.
The main selling point of the embedded Windows device is the 1200 NIT
screen and that it doesn't do anything else - dedicated to navigation.

Some of the airbus reboot efforts could be stymied by the built-in backup
batteries in most of those devices (EFIS).

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in the air and
> suddenly see the blue screen of death. However, I would be willing to bet
> modern avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or Linux kernel. I would
> hope so, at least. Maybe Grant knows?
>
> I never rely on onboard entertainment. If it’s there, great. If not, I’ve
> got reading material. Wanted to go retro today, so I watched “Wayne’s
> World” on the TPA/DFW flight. Silly and mindless, but entertaining none the
> less.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X.
> Finally got it to work. Was not encouraging.
> >
> > I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would
> not work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No
> luck. The manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do
> something. It was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities.
> The FAs spent a lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives
> were restless with no electronic pacifiers until we gave up.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the
> early flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some
> flavor. Got delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the
> flight computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft,
> which still didn’t help.
> >>
> >> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace
> electronics before we were airworthy and could push back.
> >>
> >> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but
> came up to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does
> it suck to run with a face mask on.
> >>
> >> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the
> opportunity to rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a
> whopping 18-25 minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time
> taxiing than in the air on that flight.
> >>
> >> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
> >>
> >> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
> >>
> >> -D
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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

2021-12-04 Thread OK Don via Mercedes 
The instructor at our aircraft fabric covering workshop related how the MEK
fumes from the process had accumulated inside the fuselage of the Pitts she
had just finished. She was vacuuming the inside of  the rear fuselage with
the shop vac when it suddenly exploded. Yup- MEK fumes in the vac exploded
it.

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> Shop vac shouldn't. Mattias Wandel did a video on it awhile back where he
> washed the impeller on his shop vac without incident.
> Regular vacs do...
> Curt
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>   On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:34 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes<
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> gas into the oil.
> Carburetor washdown, etc.  The shop vac runs the air through
> the sparky motor brushes.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Same here, I've got movies in my phone, tablet and laptop. Podcasts on the 
phone and a real paper book in case all else fails.
Curt

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  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 2:11 PM, dan penoff.com via 
Mercedes wrote:   My feelings exactly. You don’t want to 
be 35,000 feet in the air and suddenly see the blue screen of death. However, I 
would be willing to bet modern avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or 
Linux kernel. I would hope so, at least. Maybe Grant knows?

I never rely on onboard entertainment. If it’s there, great. If not, I’ve got 
reading material. Wanted to go retro today, so I watched “Wayne’s World” on the 
TPA/DFW flight. Silly and mindless, but entertaining none the less.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. Finally 
> got it to work. Was not encouraging. 
> 
> I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would not 
> work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No luck. The 
> manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do something. It 
> was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities. The FAs spent a 
> lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives were restless 
> with no electronic pacifiers until we gave up. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
>> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
>> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
>> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
>> still didn’t help.
>> 
>> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
>> before we were airworthy and could push back.
>> 
>> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
>> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck 
>> to run with a face mask on.
>> 
>> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
>> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
>> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
>> air on that flight.
>> 
>> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>> 
>> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
It’s really sad we basically only have airbus and Boeing for main line 
commercial aircraft. 

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 1:37 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first commercial 
> airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls 
> Royce they might have been more commercially viable.
> 
> Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
> their swan song.
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
>> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>> 
>> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
>> fun.  :D
>> 
>> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
>> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>> 
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[MBZ] Barn Find 1969 Mercedes 220 Diesel

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Finally got it to run. Supposedly engine was rebuilt and within a short period 
of time, it started making noise. I see what they are talking about. Need to 
figure out if it’s serous or something simple. 


https://youtu.be/QcW1WPt2cek


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
L-1011 was very advanced for its time. I believe it was the first commercial 
airliner with auto-land. If the engines hadn't been sole-sourced wirh Rolls 
Royce they might have been more commercially viable.

Sort of wish Lockheed had stayed in the commercial market but the L-1011 was 
their swan song.



On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:31 PM, M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes wrote:
> Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.
>
> Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
> fun.  :D
>
> My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
> hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.
>
> -MMM-
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread M. Mitchell Marmel via Mercedes 
Say what you will about the L-1011 or DC-10, you never got the BSOD.

Flaming ACTUAL death on a DC-10, occasionally, yes, but that's part of the
fun.  :D

My first attempt to ride an Airbus was in the early 80s; it BSODed and we
hadda switch to a DC-10.  Very comfy ride.

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[MBZ] 2003 SL500 - 72k miles - $15,900

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Nice looking car. Silver isn't my favorite color but it looks good on that 
model. Ad is very lacking on details though.

https://louisville.craigslist.org/cto/d/louisville-mercedes-sl-500/7416442579.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Don't know much about avionics but I would imagine anything flight-critical is 
a real-time OS such as VxWorks.

Passenger entertainment systems? Mostly Windows-based, from what I've seen.


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 2:10 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in the air and 
> suddenly see the blue screen of death. However, I would be willing to 
> bet modern avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or Linux kernel. 
> I would hope so, at least. Maybe Grant knows?
>
> I never rely on onboard entertainment. If it’s there, great. If not, 
> I’ve got reading material. Wanted to go retro today, so I watched 
> “Wayne’s World” on the TPA/DFW flight. Silly and mindless, but 
> entertaining none the less.
>
> -D
>
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. Finally 
>> got it to work. Was not encouraging. 
>> 
>> I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would not 
>> work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No luck. The 
>> manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do something. 
>> It was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities. The FAs 
>> spent a lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives were 
>> restless with no electronic pacifiers until we gave up. 
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the 
>>> early flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some 
>>> flavor. Got delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the 
>>> flight computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, 
>>> which still didn’t help.
>>> 
>>> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
>>> before we were airworthy and could push back.
>>> 
>>> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
>>> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck 
>>> to run with a face mask on.
>>> 
>>> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity 
>>> to rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 
>>> 18-25 minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than 
>>> in the air on that flight.
>>> 
>>> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>>> 
>>> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>>> 
>>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
Had the reboot delays on a regional Embraer a few years ago. After the third or 
fourth attempt to get the systems up, running, and happy, they gave up and 
called maintenance. All these electronic systems are modular so they just 
swapped a module and we were finally on our way after about a 45 minute delay. 
I guess we should be thankful it happened at an airport where they had 
maintenance staff and parts on hand.


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 1:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. 
> Finally got it to work. Was not encouraging. 
>
> I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would 
> not work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No 
> luck. The manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to 
> do something. It was some flavor of windows but had very limited 
> capabilities. The FAs spent a lot of the time cussing quietly at the 
> thing as the natives were restless with no electronic pacifiers until 
> we gave up. 
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
>> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
>> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
>> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
>> still didn’t help.
>> 
>> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
>> before we were airworthy and could push back.
>> 
>> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
>> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck 
>> to run with a face mask on.
>> 
>> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
>> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
>> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
>> air on that flight.
>> 
>> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>> 
>> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
My feelings exactly. You don’t want to be 35,000 feet in the air and suddenly 
see the blue screen of death. However, I would be willing to bet modern 
avionics mostly run on a proprietary system or Linux kernel. I would hope so, 
at least. Maybe Grant knows?

I never rely on onboard entertainment. If it’s there, great. If not, I’ve got 
reading material. Wanted to go retro today, so I watched “Wayne’s World” on the 
TPA/DFW flight. Silly and mindless, but entertaining none the less.

-D

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:58 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. Finally 
> got it to work. Was not encouraging. 
> 
> I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would not 
> work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No luck. The 
> manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do something. It 
> was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities. The FAs spent a 
> lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives were restless 
> with no electronic pacifiers until we gave up. 
> 
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
>> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
>> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
>> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
>> still didn’t help.
>> 
>> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
>> before we were airworthy and could push back.
>> 
>> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
>> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck 
>> to run with a face mask on.
>> 
>> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
>> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
>> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
>> air on that flight.
>> 
>> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>> 
>> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
I was on some flight  once and they had to reboot the airplane 3X. Finally got 
it to work. Was not encouraging. 

I was on a long flight once, sitting in Row1. The movie computer would not 
work. I spent 30min with a coupla FAs trying to get it running. No luck. The 
manual had no clue but it did have a small display to try to do something. It 
was some flavor of windows but had very limited capabilities. The FAs spent a 
lot of the time cussing quietly at the thing as the natives were restless with 
no electronic pacifiers until we gave up. 

--FT
Sent from iFōn

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
> still didn’t help.
> 
> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
> before we were airworthy and could push back.
> 
> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck to 
> run with a face mask on.
> 
> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
> air on that flight.
> 
> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
> 
> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
> 
> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
> I really feel I jonesing for a W126. Never had one yet in my life. 

Mine's still available.  Lots of room for improvement so you can 'make it
your own', etc.  :-)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Shop vac shouldn't. Mattias Wandel did a video on it awhile back where he 
washed the impeller on his shop vac without incident.
Regular vacs do...
Curt

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  On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 1:34 PM, Jim Cathey via 
Mercedes wrote:   Dangerous if the car has managed to 
get gas into the oil.
Carburetor washdown, etc.  The shop vac runs the air through
the sparky motor brushes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] How to remove the drain plug without losing oil.

2021-12-04 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
Dangerous if the car has managed to get gas into the oil.
Carburetor washdown, etc.  The shop vac runs the air through
the sparky motor brushes.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
I’m gold, but that’s really the bottom tier for American. I’ll probably make 
platinum this year with all my trips back and forth to Flagstaff. I should 
probably get a rewards card of some sort and milk that, too.

It’s not too busy today, my flight to DFW had plenty of open seats. Most likely 
how they got me into first to PHX. As a gold member they automatically upgrade 
on the PHX-FLG flight because it’s so short (138 miles).

-D

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 12:05 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yep sounds like American and airbus. I doubt you have status so surprised 
> you got a first class upgrade. That had to have pissed off others that were 
> on the upgrade list. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 11:59 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
>> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
>> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
>> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
>> still didn’t help.
>> 
>> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
>> before we were airworthy and could push back.
>> 
>> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
>> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck 
>> to run with a face mask on.
>> 
>> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
>> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
>> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
>> air on that flight.
>> 
>> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
>> 
>> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Yep sounds like American and airbus. I doubt you have status so surprised you 
got a first class upgrade. That had to have pissed off others that were on the 
upgrade list. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Dec 4, 2021, at 11:59 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
> flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
> delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight 
> computers to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which 
> still didn’t help.
> 
> Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
> before we were airworthy and could push back.
> 
> Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up 
> to the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck to 
> run with a face mask on.
> 
> Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
> rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
> minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the 
> air on that flight.
> 
> Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.
> 
> Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.
> 
> -D
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[MBZ] OT - Reboot Your Aircraft

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
Taking a quick trip out to the Flagstaff house for a week. Caught the early 
flight to DFW out of TPA, a later model (“neo”) Airbus of some flavor. Got 
delayed over an hour at the gate because they couldn’t get the flight computers 
to boot. They had to completely power down the aircraft, which still didn’t 
help.

Ultimately, they had to get in the rear cargo hold to replace electronics 
before we were airworthy and could push back.

Got into DFW with 10 minutes to get from C to E. Did my best OJ but came up to 
the gate as the jet bridge was rolling back. Poo. Holy cow does it suck to run 
with a face mask on.

Thanks to American’s iPhone app they had already given me the opportunity to 
rebook. I have to go to PHX now, then puddle jump to FLG, a whopping 18-25 
minute flight in most cases. You often spend more time taxiing than in the air 
on that flight.

Whined to an agent in DFW and got upgraded to first, so that helps.

Hope no more of my aircraft require rebooting today.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
Absolutely agree. My point was more a matter of some thinking that because a 
particular job only takes a minute or two it’s value is minimal.

Your glass guys are savvy businessmen, too. Even if you don’t need anything in 
the near term, you’re likely to tell others about your experience.

-D

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 11:34 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> They do, but it burns goodwill to charge high rates for tiny jobs.
> 
> I recently had a piece of glass cut to replace the chipped glass on my Ghia 
> speedo. I had no tools or skills to cut a 5" diameter round piece of glass, 
> so I took it to the local glass shop. When I came to pick it up, they had 
> made two, and charged me nothing as it was such a small and simple job 
> compared to what they normally do.
> 
> Now, if I ever need new glass in a window or door, who am I going to call? 
> Who am I going to recommend to my friends?
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 12:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> And those skills have value.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Picking us an actual skill. Buy yourself some picks and a Master lock #3 
>>> which is commonly regarded as a very easy lock. You'll learn pretty fast 
>>> that it's not as easy as tv makes it look.
>>> It's that old story, yes the job only takes a minute but it took me years 
>>> to develop the skills for that to be true.
>>> Curt
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via 
>>> Mercedes wrote:   Attempt to pick it yourself. There 
>>> must be youtube videos showing you how.
>>> 
>>> 
 On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. 
 Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too 
 busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, 
 they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 
 to open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a 
 few minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could 
 probably open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much 
 he says 65. I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said 
 this should take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off 
 muttering something in russki. O. K.
 
 He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go 
 at that. Nothing to lose.
 
 --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
They do, but it burns goodwill to charge high rates for tiny jobs.

I recently had a piece of glass cut to replace the chipped glass on my Ghia 
speedo. I had no tools or skills to cut a 5" diameter round piece of glass, so 
I took it to the local glass shop. When I came to pick it up, they had made 
two, and charged me nothing as it was such a small and simple job compared to 
what they normally do.

Now, if I ever need new glass in a window or door, who am I going to call? Who 
am I going to recommend to my friends?

Allan


On Sat, Dec 4, 2021, at 12:17 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> And those skills have value.
>
> -D
>
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>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Picking us an actual skill. Buy yourself some picks and a Master lock #3 
>> which is commonly regarded as a very easy lock. You'll learn pretty fast 
>> that it's not as easy as tv makes it look.
>> It's that old story, yes the job only takes a minute but it took me years to 
>> develop the skills for that to be true.
>> Curt
>> 
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
>> 
>>  On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via 
>> Mercedes wrote:   Attempt to pick it yourself. There 
>> must be youtube videos showing you how.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
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>>> Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too 
>>> busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, 
>>> they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 
>>> to open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a 
>>> few minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could 
>>> probably open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he 
>>> says 65. I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said 
>>> this should take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off 
>>> muttering something in russki. O. K.
>>> 
>>> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
>>> that. Nothing to lose.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Runs and drives . Come and take it today 1993 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D, $5, 200

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
Nothing unusual here. Lots of miles, though.

-D

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> Rare model?
> 
>> On Sat, Dec 4, 2021 at 10:52 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> Looks pretty good from the limited photos
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 9:51 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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>>> 
>>> Green/tan, looks pretty nice
>>> 
>>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/616051246483967
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
And those skills have value.

-D

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 5:30 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Picking us an actual skill. Buy yourself some picks and a Master lock #3 
> which is commonly regarded as a very easy lock. You'll learn pretty fast that 
> it's not as easy as tv makes it look.
> It's that old story, yes the job only takes a minute but it took me years to 
> develop the skills for that to be true.
> Curt
> 
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
> 
>  On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via 
> Mercedes wrote:   Attempt to pick it yourself. There 
> must be youtube videos showing you how.
> 
> 
>> On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
>> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. 
>> Coupla (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too 
>> busy. Guy comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, 
>> they’re chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to 
>> open it. I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few 
>> minutes later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could probably 
>> open it with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. 
>> I decline again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said this should 
>> take you like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something 
>> in russki. O. K.
>> 
>> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
>> that. Nothing to lose.
>> 
>> --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
If it has the trap oxidizer and special turbocharger I would avoid it.

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> I thought California had banned all old diesels? Or is that just in
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
I think they look alright. Definitely seen worse.


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> These seats look like they have been redone by an upholstery shop and 
> don’t look quite right. A 126 is great. 
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>> Really? I thought they looked kinda puffy, but I didn’t notice they weren’t 
>> correct. 
>> Is this another instance of why you da man?
>> 
>> I really feel I jonesing for a W126. Never had one yet in my life. 
>> 
>> AZBob
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>>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
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>>> Somebody tried to make it nice. Unfortunately it has some sort of horrible 
>>> aftermarket seat covers. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
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 Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes 
I thought California had banned all old diesels? Or is that just in commercial 
trucks?


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> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
The interior looks original and in excellent shape to me.  If everything
checks out per the seller's claims this could be a really good deal.

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> These seats look like they have been redone by an upholstery shop and
> don’t look quite right. A 126 is great.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > Really? I thought they looked kinda puffy, but I didn’t notice they
> weren’t correct.
> > Is this another instance of why you da man?
> >
> > I really feel I jonesing for a W126. Never had one yet in my life.
> >
> > AZBob
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> >> Somebody tried to make it nice. Unfortunately it has some sort of
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> >>> Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Runs and drives . Come and take it today 1993 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D, $5, 200

2021-12-04 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
Rare model?

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> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/616051246483967
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[MBZ] Question for those with lifts

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Now that I have one of my lifts up and going, I need to buy some 
accessories to actually use it.  I plan on buying some of these, or 
something similar, to place under the car to further stabilize it.


https://www.harborfreight.com/2-ton-capacity-underhoist-safety-stand-61600.html?utm_source=google_medium=cpc_campaign=12144811130=12144811130_content=128369723195=128369723195=61600=590=CjwKCAiAwKyNBhBfEiwA_mrUMtlJKDf3HIEluLiphzPobWU804kGidK-5B34XOX5woHFP44JJsz_9xoCACgQAvD_BwE

Or something like this

https://www.amazon.com/Arcan-1500-lb-Capacity-Underhoist-ALSS15/dp/B07VM9JCN5/ref=asc_df_B07VM9JCN5/?tag=hyprod-20=df0=416926807659==g=15501973490895034425c===1024278=pla-895908365216=1===92859401246===416926807659==g=15501973490895034425==c===1024278=pla-895908365216


Is this also what you would use to jack up the motor a little bit to do 
motor mounts?  Or is there some sort of other under hoist jack for 
this?  My assumption would be, if you are under the car jacking up the 
motor to replace mounts at the front, you would want to place another 
one at the back to stabilize it.  Also thinking about other things such 
as removing differentials, or subframes, transmissions etc.



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[MBZ] 3k is my bottom dollar , I will not take nothing less then that 2006 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S550, $3, 200

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
Needs cleaning been sitting Has a misfire i think it need three new 
injectors Serious buyers only


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Re: [MBZ] Runs and drives . Come and take it today 1993 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D, $5, 200

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Looks pretty good from the limited photos 

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[MBZ] Runs and drives . Come and take it today 1993 Mercedes-Benz Mercedes-Benz 300 SD Sedan 4D, $5, 200

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 

Green/tan, looks pretty nice

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[MBZ] 2 small cut in the back seats could be reaper 2007 Mercedes-Benz S-Class S 550 Sedan 4D, $8, 500

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 

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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
These seats look like they have been redone by an upholstery shop and don’t 
look quite right. A 126 is great. 

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> On Dec 4, 2021, at 9:35 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
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> Really? I thought they looked kinda puffy, but I didn’t notice they weren’t 
> correct. 
> Is this another instance of why you da man?
> 
> I really feel I jonesing for a W126. Never had one yet in my life. 
> 
> AZBob
> 
> Sent from my iPad
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>> On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:29 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Somebody tried to make it nice. Unfortunately it has some sort of horrible 
>> aftermarket seat covers. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
 On Dec 4, 2021, at 8:34 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”
>>> 
>>> AZBob
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
 
 
 https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/cto/d/santee-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd-turbo/7415471740.html
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Really? I thought they looked kinda puffy, but I didn’t notice they weren’t 
correct. 
Is this another instance of why you da man?

I really feel I jonesing for a W126. Never had one yet in my life. 

AZBob

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> Somebody tried to make it nice. Unfortunately it has some sort of horrible 
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>> Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”
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Re: [MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
Somebody tried to make it nice. Unfortunately it has some sort of horrible 
aftermarket seat covers. 

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> Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”
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[MBZ] The story behind this vehicle is it needs head work or a replacement engine. 1995 E 320 Mercedes - $2, 700 (Columbia)

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 



 Buy my failed project for insane amount of money


 I had sanded and primed it and was going to paint it back to its
 original color, but the head gasket failed on the vehicle.


 
https://columbia.craigslist.org/cto/d/columbia-1995-320-mercedes/7415866265.html

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[MBZ] "Cheap" G-wagen -- 2003 Mercedes-Benz G-Class 4dr 4WD 5.0L - $26, 500

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
Low miles and doesn't look bad, wonder what is wrong with it.  Not far 
from horse country


https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/ctd/d/clay-city-2003-mercedes-benz-class-4dr/7416130538.html

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[MBZ] Nice Cali Specimen

2021-12-04 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
Looks nice. As y’all say, “someone needs this.”

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

2021-12-04 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 

True

--FT

On 12/4/21 6:29 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Picking us an actual skill. Buy yourself some picks and a Master lock #3 which 
is commonly regarded as a very easy lock. You'll learn pretty fast that it's 
not as easy as tv makes it look.
It's that old story, yes the job only takes a minute but it took me years to 
develop the skills for that to be true.
Curt

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   On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes  wrote:   Attempt to pick it yourself. There must be youtube videos showing you how.



On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
(apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re chatting 
in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. I politely 
declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes later he comes 
back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it with that, we go 
back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline again. He asks 
what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you like less than a 
minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. O. K.

He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
that. Nothing to lose.

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Re: [MBZ] 2007 S550 - 235k miles - $6,500

2021-12-04 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
Don’t know. I like those cars, wouldn’t mind having one for longer road trips

—FT

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> Higher miles. M273? Did these have the "guide idler gear" issue mentioned on 
> https://www.mercedesmedic.com/check-my-mercedes-benz-for-balance-shaft-issue-by-vin-m272273/?
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> Looks nice cosmetically.
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Re: [MBZ] Seat tray lock

2021-12-04 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
Picking us an actual skill. Buy yourself some picks and a Master lock #3 which 
is commonly regarded as a very easy lock. You'll learn pretty fast that it's 
not as easy as tv makes it look.
It's that old story, yes the job only takes a minute but it took me years to 
develop the skills for that to be true.
Curt

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  On Fri, Dec 3, 2021 at 5:13 PM, Randy Bennell via 
Mercedes wrote:   Attempt to pick it yourself. There 
must be youtube videos showing you how.


On 03/12/2021 4:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> So I went by this locksmith this afternoon while I was out on errands. Coupla 
> (apparently) Russian guys running the place. They didn’t look too busy. Guy 
> comes out and looks at the tray, then the other guy comes out, they’re 
> chatting in russki or whatever. We go back inside he tells me $65 to open it. 
> I politely declined. He says wait a minute and goes in back, a few minutes 
> later he comes back with a picking tool. He says he could probably open it 
> with that, we go back out to look at it. I ask how much he says 65. I decline 
> again. He asks what I was thinking to pay and I said this should take you 
> like less than a minute, 10bucks. He walks off muttering something in russki. 
> O. K.
>
> He did mention somewhere in there about drilling it out so ima have a go at 
> that. Nothing to lose.
>
> --FT


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Re: [MBZ] 1989 560SEL - 187k miles - $5,900

2021-12-04 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
They are. Probably replaced the ignition cylinder with a stock cylinder rather 
than ordering one keyed to the VIN.

-D

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> Looks fairly nice, normal wear but nothing really screaming neglect or 
> abuse. Price seems a little high but maybe worth it depending how far you'd 
> need to go to find a better example.
> 
> "Only have 1 ignition key, no door key" implies ignition lock was replaced? I 
> assume doors and ignition were keyed alike on these like the other MBs I've 
> had.
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