Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
MY 12K BTU Pioneer system has been running fine for five years. I don't know if my old unit is the same as to current models but mine appears identical (externally) to a larger Mitsubishi unit at out church. My Pioneer system did not have pre-charged lines so I hired that HVAC pro to flare

Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-27 Thread Karl Wittnebel via Mercedes
I am loving the 560 torque and silence. No drama just gets on with it. Anyone with range anxiety would do better to buy the Tesla, however. My issues with Tesla are more to do with who owns the data. On Tue, Jan 25, 2022, 8:18 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] Today's Car Humor

2022-01-27 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
well said On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, 8:07 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > From a guy that has two Miatas with a Porsche 944 that he’s neglected for > two years over the Miatas talking about how he’s going to get the 944 out > and dusted off to drive in the spring: > >

Re: [MBZ] Today's Car Humor

2022-01-27 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
“...why date a stable, well adjusted bookish suburban girl from a good family when you can hang out with a bipolar goth chick with two moms who lives in a van and has a pet monkey?” You just described my ex ;)) On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 6:07 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Where are they made? If they are Korean or Japanese they might be decent. If they are Chinese, I would avoid. Fujitsu, Mitsubishi, and Samsung are some names I've seen in mini-split installations at work. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 7:47 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote: > So I’m paying

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
That’s how it is in OK. The dealers tell everyone the state requires it. That is false. You don’t have to charge a doc fee but if you do you have to charge everyone. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:47 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > In Michigan, if you charge a

[MBZ] Today's Car Humor

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
From a guy that has two Miatas with a Porsche 944 that he’s neglected for two years over the Miatas talking about how he’s going to get the 944 out and dusted off to drive in the spring: “...why date a stable well adjusted bookish suburban girl from a good family when you can hang out with a

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
So I’m paying 8-10K for labor and warranty. Wow! I’m looking into mrcool units. A complete 18K unit set up for DIY with a warranty runs $2K. I wonder how good these are. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2022, at 7:33 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes > wrote: > > The units with parts needed

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes
The units with parts needed (linesets, etc) would run about $9-10k wholesale for all three units (I got some Fujitsu quotes recently). The rest of the money is labor and the warranty. This is why I installed my own... I figured the warranty wasn't worth it. I bought all the pro tools needed,

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
I know a fellow who heated a 2 car garage here in the GWN using in floor tubing and a 40 gallon electric hot water tank. It worked well. He ran a sign making company out of the garage. Randy On 27/01/2022 5:02 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote: Heated floor is the way to go, takes less

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
I had a heating contractor who specializes in mini splits come today. He feels that I need 2 20K btu units for the ground floor and one 15K btu unit for the open loft and with their own compressors so three single zone units. He estimated $18,000-20,000. Seems pricey. Sent from my iPhone > On

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
The downside is a typical concrete garage or shop floor is a lot of mass. Unless you use the shop often enough to justify keeping it heated all the time, you'll need to start heating it hours (at least) in advance -- maybe the night before. If you get a sudden unplanned opportunity for some

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Peter Frederick via Mercedes
Heated floor is the way to go, takes less heat to stay warm and you don’t get condensation of the floor in the spring. > On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating in the > concrete floor, with an OWB

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Co-sponsor of controversial Florida bill says he wouldn’t vote for the bill himself TAMPA, Fla. (WFLA) – A controversial legislation that would take away consumer protections when buying a car could see significant changes before becoming law, according to a new co-sponsor of the bill.

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> Is there any reason why the pipe could not be laid out on top of an existing > concrete floor and more concrete added over it? None that I know of. Getting a strong bond to the existing concrete, so that you don't need a very thick pour, would be the tricky bit. But, I am not a construction

Re: [MBZ] ‘01 ML320

2022-01-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Mo-ped time --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > This owner is an email only person who never checks email evidently. > > I’m not too worried. It seems knucklehead my be reverting back to old ways. > My fatherly patience is just about

Re: [MBZ] Assuming it has an extra 0 on the price, is $500 a reasonable offer?

2022-01-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
Ran when parked --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:07 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/7401004723246772/ > > > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list

Re: [MBZ] 2006 CLS500 - 166k miles - realtor spec - $9,800

2022-01-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
I guess it appeals to some fashionistas --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:49 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > MOST UNAPOLOGETICALLY FASHION DRIVEN MERCEDES! > > https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenfield-mercedes-500-cls-lb-ft-torq/7438078269.html > ** >

Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320 CDI - 233k miles - $5,000

2022-01-27 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
It’s very red. Put some stickers on it and you could be a fire chief --FT Sent from iFōn > On Jan 27, 2022, at 2:53 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Price a bit high for the miles? Looks fairly nice though. This would be one > that could have "black death" is that right? > >

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
Is there any reason why the pipe could not be laid out on top of an existing concrete floor and more concrete added over it? Randy On 27/01/2022 2:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote: If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating in the concrete floor, with an OWB

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
That and radiant heat warms the objects around it, too. -D > On Jan 27, 2022, at 3:40 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes > wrote: > > If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating in the > concrete floor, with an OWB (outdoor wood boiler) and natural gas or propane > boiler

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread Rick Knoble via Mercedes
If I were building a shop from scratch, I would put hydronic heating in the concrete floor, with an OWB (outdoor wood boiler) and natural gas or propane boiler backup. Even if the shop is 45 degrees, a warm floor would make a world of difference. Rick From: mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent:

Re: [MBZ] Garage heating options

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Electric space heaters are 100% efficient at -40F. On 2022-01-26 10:35, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: I would add that if you’re looking at single unit heat pumps, much like would be used in a house, it’s going to be pricey and may not work efficiently down to the lowest temperatures. The

Re: [MBZ] 2006 E320 CDI - 233k miles - $5,000

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Looks good for the miles, color is uncommon, exterior looks nice and the interior is really good for a car with that many miles. “Black Death” can’t be assessed without removing the covers from the engine, specifically over the valve cover - the main one in the middle. If it was clean the

[MBZ] 2006 E320 CDI - 233k miles - $5,000

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Price a bit high for the miles? Looks fairly nice though. This would be one that could have "black death" is that right? "Hasn't been driven regularly in 2 years" https://lexington.craigslist.org/cto/d/lexington-mercedes-e320-diesel/7438334647.html ___

[MBZ] 2006 CLS500 - 166k miles - realtor spec - $9,800

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
MOST UNAPOLOGETICALLY FASHION DRIVEN MERCEDES! https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/greenfield-mercedes-500-cls-lb-ft-torq/7438078269.html ** ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change

Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Mercedes has done it in the W211, I believe. There was an obscure option for cars with the “oversize” sunroofs (panorama?) that had a solar panel and a little fan that would exhaust cabin air to the outside when the car was closed up and the sun was shining. I saw this once and researched it,

Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
There must be a graveyard somewhere for brilliant innovations that got murdered. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-01-26 11:38, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: > > I like the idea of ventilation or possibly even cooling a parked > > vehicle. > > Saab

Re: [MBZ] Cognitive Dissonance Much?

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-01-26 11:38, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: I like the idea of ventilation or possibly even cooling a parked vehicle. Saab had a concept car in the 1980s with a solar powered exhaust fan to cool the interior when the sun was shining. But that simple idea never made it to a

Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Water is no good for dampening, it doesn't compress. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 8:26 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-01-26 12:36, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: >> I would think springs. Springs support the car. Shocks dampen movement. > > If your movements are excessively dampened,

[MBZ] Milwaukee: cordless tools for boat mechanics

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Jump to 11 minutes for the dampening. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMUiVVxG1KQ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yeah that "doc fee" as they call it here is just another reason I haven't bought a car at a dealership in decades. I only buy from private sellers now, no games. So far it's worked out very well. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022, at 12:42 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > It’s as the article

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
However much MD is paying me I would get 2x if I lived in D.C. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:47 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Exactly. > > Even better if you want to dig into Floriduh politics is the effort the > utilities are making to do away with net metering

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Exactly. Even better if you want to dig into Floriduh politics is the effort the utilities are making to do away with net metering for solar customers. For instance, how much money would you be saving, Andrew, if your utility wasn’t paying you for the excess power you generate? You got it -

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
In Michigan, if you charge a documentation fee, everybody pays it or your doc fee is illegal. OK, fine, I'm lowering my offer by the amount of the doc fee. (that might have flown 30 years ago when the doc fee was $75, but now it's in the hundreds) On 2022-01-27 12:42, dan penoff.com via

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
It’s as the article describes, the dealers are just trying to get out of having to process titles. That being the case, I would tell them to take their “processing fee” and stuff it. As a matter of principal, I would never buy from a dealer who charges me a “processing fee”. That pretty well

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
There seems to be a problem with dealers either selling cars they don't hold clear title to, or not willing to make the effort to convey titles properly, or perhaps cars that third party lenders are dragging their feet on releasing the titles for. In the first two instances, I definitely do

Re: [MBZ] beautiful and rare 1994 Mercedes 350GD Turbo SWB Mercedes-Benz G-Class AMG G 63 AWD 4MATIC 4dr SUV - $18, 000

2022-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Post has been deleted. On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 9:08 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Scam? > > > https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-benz-class-amg-63/7437880614.html > > -- > --FT > > > ___ >

Re: [MBZ] This is a beautiful beater if you know what I mean. - 2003 S430 - $2, 500

2022-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
Why are there no other photos? On Thu, Jan 27, 2022 at 12:11 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Looks like realtor spec might be a good daily driver but I'd probaby > want something a bit less thirsty for that. > > >

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
On the one had I think titles are a little silly for some of the cars we talk about, those worth a few thousands of dollars etc. Some people spend more on their mobile phone than some of the cars we buy, and they don't have titles. On the other hand, where do you draw the line, and I think any

[MBZ] This is a beautiful beater if you know what I mean. - 2003 S430 - $2, 500

2022-01-27 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks like realtor spec might be a good daily driver but I'd probaby want something a bit less thirsty for that. https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/pleasant-view-2003-mercedes-s430/7438265290.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Send title. https://www.wfla.com/8-on-your-side/better-call-behnken/lawmakers-quiet-on-proposal-to-take-away-car-dealer-requirement-to-transfer-title-within-30-days/ Republican State Senator Tom Wright and Republican State Representative David Smith filed the identical bills, SB 1346 and HB

Re: [MBZ] Curt Needs This For Camp

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Just the thing for cruising the streets of Phoenix. One sold for $15k a year ago. https://bringatrailer.com/chrysler/sno-runner/ On 2022-01-27 11:51, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:  https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/cave-creek-chrysler-sno-runner-rare/7438287306.html

Re: [MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
Fukc Jalopnik and fukc the thieves they love to make excuses for. https://jalopnik.com/thousands-of-stolen-packages-and-empty-boxes-littering-1848359318 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or

[MBZ] Curt Needs This For Camp

2022-01-27 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
>  > https://phoenix.craigslist.org/nph/cto/d/cave-creek-chrysler-sno-runner-rare/7438287306.html > > > Bob Rentfro > Nuclear Operations Training Instructor > 5801 South Wintersburg Road, Tonopah, AZ 85354-7529, M.S. 7896 > Office 623.393.6372 Cell 623-695-2072 > > --- NOTICE --- > > This

Re: [MBZ] ‘01 ML320

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Ugh. Sorry to hear that. :^( -D > On Jan 27, 2022, at 11:41 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > This owner is an email only person who never checks email evidently. > > I’m not too worried. It seems knucklehead my be reverting back to old ways. > My fatherly patience is just about

Re: [MBZ] ‘01 ML320

2022-01-27 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
This owner is an email only person who never checks email evidently. I’m not too worried. It seems knucklehead my be reverting back to old ways. My fatherly patience is just about gone. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 27, 2022, at 9:36 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Oil

Re: [MBZ] 2010 GL450 - 144k miles - $10,400

2022-01-27 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
I'm not for buying expensive gas not diesel. On Wed, Jan 26, 2022 at 11:05 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I’m not answer for any low ball > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > > > On Jan 26, 2022, at 10:44 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] ‘01 ML320

2022-01-27 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Oil sensor is a PITA to replace because as they stated you have to drop the pan. Certainly something you can live with. The destroyed (cracked) windshield washer fluid reservoir is very common on these, they made them with plasticizers that didn’t hold up well, so the plastic on them by now is

[MBZ] The copart ML

2022-01-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
After charging overnight it fired right up, no check engine lights. Will have to see what it does after it’s warmed up. Definitely cranks over faster than the GL. After messing with the connection point under the hood, it does seem to crank a little faster but it could be my imagination. Sent

[MBZ] Assuming it has an extra 0 on the price, is $500 a reasonable offer?

2022-01-27 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
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[MBZ] ‘01 ML320

2022-01-27 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Appealing mileage. The warts it has are not too bad. If it checks out y’all reckon $4K in today’s ridiculous world? Is replacing the oil sensor, fixing the passenger door handle tasks a recovering alcoholic can perform under my guidance? >  >

[MBZ] THE TOP WILL NOT INGAGE AND OPEN. 2008 Mercedes Benz CLK convertible - Clean clear good title - $4, 000 (sanford)

2022-01-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
looks pretty nice I have no idea whats wrong with the top it so Im selling my CLK for a great price. https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/sanford-2008-mercedes-benz-clk/7437838538.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

[MBZ] beautiful and rare 1994 Mercedes 350GD Turbo SWB Mercedes-Benz G-Class AMG G 63 AWD 4MATIC 4dr SUV - $18, 000

2022-01-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Scam? https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/charlotte-mercedes-benz-class-amg-63/7437880614.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Condition listed as salvage on this platform, but poor is a better description. 1978 Mercedes 450SLC - $1, 700 (Toccoa)

2022-01-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://athensga.craigslist.org/cto/d/toccoa-1978-mercedes-450slc/7438100793.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

[MBZ] Proposed Florida Law Will Help Dealers Screw You Out Of Getting Your Title

2022-01-27 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
https://jalopnik.com/proposed-florida-law-will-help-dealers-screw-you-out-of-1848424536 -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:

Re: [MBZ] 4spd manual. China Blue 1981 Mercedes Benz 240D - $10, 000 (Charlotte)

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-01-26 12:36, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: I would think springs. Springs support the car. Shocks dampen movement. If your movements are excessively dampened, maybe you should eat less fat and more vegetables. Dampers don't dampen, they just damp.

Re: [MBZ] Maybe I figured out why the ML ended up at copart

2022-01-27 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes
On 2022-01-26 18:53, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote: The photo of the readout was too tiny to read. What did it say? So, does the IAT cause no start, or does the system shut down to protect itself when it thinks rail pressure is too low? ___