Re: [MBZ] 1998 E300 Turbo Diesel (needs some work)
I was thinking fuel problem, maybe as simple as a dirty/clogged filter. But who knows? On Sat, May 28, 2022, at 10:51 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote: > If it won’t run maybe $1500 max. Crank position sensor? But I don’t > know if this diesel has one > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > >> On May 28, 2022, at 9:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> Cosmetically might be alright, though the pics aren't great. What is that >> handle with the bungee cord under the headlight switch? Also, aftermarket >> radio has been installed. >> >> "Won’t stay started." Wonder what's wrong with it? >> >> https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/d/kalamazoo-classic-1998-mercedes-e300/7489568365.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1998 E300 Turbo Diesel (needs some work)
If it won’t run maybe $1500 max. Crank position sensor? But I don’t know if this diesel has one --FT Sent from iFōn > On May 28, 2022, at 9:43 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Cosmetically might be alright, though the pics aren't great. What is that > handle with the bungee cord under the headlight switch? Also, aftermarket > radio has been installed. > > "Won’t stay started." Wonder what's wrong with it? > > https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/d/kalamazoo-classic-1998-mercedes-e300/7489568365.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1998 E300 Turbo Diesel (needs some work)
Cosmetically might be alright, though the pics aren't great. What is that handle with the bungee cord under the headlight switch? Also, aftermarket radio has been installed. "Won’t stay started." Wonder what's wrong with it? https://kalamazoo.craigslist.org/cto/d/kalamazoo-classic-1998-mercedes-e300/7489568365.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Dan or others: looking for tune-up guide for Kohler engine
Been a long time, but that sounds about right. Adjust the main under load, if possible. That’s where you’ll get it in the sweet spot. -D > On May 28, 2022, at 4:38 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > The engine on my Cub Cadet (Kohler K301A engine) smells like it's running a > little rich. It also sputters or misses occasionally. > > I've spray-cleaned the carb and run a bit of Techron in the gas the last two > times I've used it. The foam sleeve over the paper air filter was pretty > dirty so I cleaned that as well. Paper filter looked OK and I have not > changed it. Seems about the same. > > I see two screws, one on top of the carb and one at a 45-degree angle. > > Online I found this: > > The top screw is the main jet and the 45-degree screw is the idle fuel. > > Start by fully seating the screws then 2 1/4 turns out on the main and 1 3/4 > on the idle. > > Then start the engine and let it warm up for a couple of minutes. Idle the > tractor down to about 1/8 throttle, and then slam it to full throttle. If the > main jet is set correctly, it speed right up to full throttle. If it > sputters, backfires, and tries to die, the mixture is too lean. If it > stumbles and you see black smoke, it's too rich. If it passes that test, run > it at full throttle and slowly richen the mixture until you get either an rpm > drop, black smoke and rough running, or both; then slowly lean it again until > you get an rpm rise. The peak of the rpm rise is the proper mixture. > > Sound about right? > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SL500
way to go Dan. On Sat, May 28, 2022, 8:11 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Sold the SL500 today to an Armenian guy I was sure was a flipper. Turns > out he was buying it for his kid. > > He beat on me relentlessly to try and get me down, but I walked away on > him. A couple of minutes later he came back and gave me my price. > > I felt like I had just finished my first day of Marine boot camp when I > was done. This guy was relentless. > > I ended up driving the car across Tampa to his house. I bit of an > inconvenience, but allowed us to stop for dinner at a favorite German > restaurant. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
Had our local water board meeting on Thursday. A few months ago I suggested to our engineer that we needed to lay in a stock of meters (radio read) and controllers and such. So she has been doing that. Bought as many meters as she could. They are now NLA, back ordered for months. We have pretty steady demand what with new construction. She figures we have enough for a few months then she can start cannibalizing disused manual meters from inactive properties. That could extend the supply a bit. She bought a few controllers too but that could be it for awhile. Big Issue. Forget big motors we use for pumping and valve actuation. We have standby generators at our tanks to run pumps and valves but apparently the power co can’t get transformers so they’re running on inventory too. That could be an issue to keep our stuff running if a storm takes out their grid feeding our sites. Fun times --FT Sent from iFōn > On May 28, 2022, at 8:27 PM, G Mann via Mercedes > wrote: > > In an ideal world, we would have many more nuke plants, AND, we would have > replaced the entire transmission grid, some of which is now over 100 years > old and very vulnerable. Also, we would have large grid transformers > in storage, new, and ready for immediate installation, instead of having a > 2 to 5 year supply chain delay to replace one that's damaged or failed. > > Instead, our leadership finds other things to spend government money on. > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> In an ideal world we would have developed more nuclear power, right AZ bob? >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 28, 2022, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. >>> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:18 AM mitch--- via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the day/night before it's driven? > On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal > fired power plant. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >> >> wrote: >> >> >> EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SL500
Aren’t you of Armenian origin? Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 8:11 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sold the SL500 today to an Armenian guy I was sure was a flipper. Turns out > he was buying it for his kid. > > He beat on me relentlessly to try and get me down, but I walked away on him. > A couple of minutes later he came back and gave me my price. > > I felt like I had just finished my first day of Marine boot camp when I was > done. This guy was relentless. > > I ended up driving the car across Tampa to his house. I bit of an > inconvenience, but allowed us to stop for dinner at a favorite German > restaurant. > > -D > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
Just for Andrew's enjoyment. Since we live in a perfect world, and pollution is only caused by evil hydrocarbon emissions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_horse_manure_crisis_of_1894 On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:18 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Perhaps you should go back to horse and buggy so you do away with > emissions. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 28, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > I prefer a reality of no emissions from all the cars and trucks driving > all > > over the place. We can control the power plant emissions. > > > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:44 AM G Mann via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> This one picture, with the technical details in the text, does a pretty > >> good job of connecting reality to the "zero emissions" of EV autos > >> argument. Behind the magic of push button living, there is the reality > of > >> what it takes to have that luxury delivered. > >> [image: image.png] > >> > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >>> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal > fired > >>> power plant. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > >>> wrote: > > > EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > > > On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel > >>> burned to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. > >> Not > >>> to mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years > they > >>> should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > >>> besides electric battery powered cars. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> EVs are for pussies! > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >>> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > >>> cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > >>> Curt > >>> > >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >>> > >>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important > thing > >>> with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to > >> complete. > >>> If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't > >> know > >>> how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. > Kevin > >>> posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > >>> > >>> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed > >>> up. You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to > drive > >>> out moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > >>> especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing > occasional > >>> longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > >>> forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > >>> > >>> > > On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > >> wrote: > I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep > >>> up on > the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > > If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and > >>> is > pretty reliable which would I look for? > > I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 > >> is > very good too. (Right?) > > The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > > Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > >>> blue > tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its > >>> own > issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives > >>> like a > 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to > >> get > everything heated up and working. > > My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of > >> that > >>> is > on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short > >>> trips > on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a > >> weekend > >>> 600 > miles or so maybe every few months. > > So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > >>> driven > 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the > >>> 602, > 603, and 606? > > What was
Re: [MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - 121k miles - $8,000
We have a R320, it’s like a big station wagon and rides very nice. Engine oil cooler is probably the job you are talking about. Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes > wrote: > > I haven’t paid too much attention to R class stuff. I know that Deneil had > one. I thought someone told me once that there’s some very mundane and > necessary piece of service, that in order to perform it, you have to remove a > goodly amount of the engine. > > AZBob > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 28, 2022, at 10:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> "These engines run 500k+ Miles" >> >> https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-2007-mercedes-r320-cdi-diesel/7489440189.html >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
In an ideal world, we would have many more nuke plants, AND, we would have replaced the entire transmission grid, some of which is now over 100 years old and very vulnerable. Also, we would have large grid transformers in storage, new, and ready for immediate installation, instead of having a 2 to 5 year supply chain delay to replace one that's damaged or failed. Instead, our leadership finds other things to spend government money on. On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:05 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > In an ideal world we would have developed more nuclear power, right AZ bob? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 28, 2022, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. > > > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:18 AM mitch--- via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > >> wrote: > >> > >> So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the > >> day/night before it's driven? > >> > >>> On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > >>> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal > >>> fired power plant. > >>> > >>> Sent from my iPhone > >>> > On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote: > > > EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
Perhaps you should go back to horse and buggy so you do away with emissions. Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 9:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I prefer a reality of no emissions from all the cars and trucks driving all > over the place. We can control the power plant emissions. > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:44 AM G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> This one picture, with the technical details in the text, does a pretty >> good job of connecting reality to the "zero emissions" of EV autos >> argument. Behind the magic of push button living, there is the reality of >> what it takes to have that luxury delivered. >> [image: image.png] >> >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal fired >>> power plant. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> wrote: EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel >>> burned to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. >> Not >>> to mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they >>> should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else >>> besides electric battery powered cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >> EVs are for pussies! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the >>> cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. >>> Curt >>> >>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>> >>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important thing >>> with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to >> complete. >>> If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't >> know >>> how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin >>> posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. >>> >>> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed >>> up. You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive >>> out moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK >>> especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional >>> longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven >>> forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. >>> >>> > On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes >> wrote: I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep >>> up on the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and >>> is pretty reliable which would I look for? I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 >> is very good too. (Right?) The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the >>> blue tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its >>> own issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives >>> like a 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to >> get everything heated up and working. My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of >> that >>> is on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short >>> trips on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a >> weekend >>> 600 miles or so maybe every few months. So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be >>> driven 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the >>> 602, 603, and 606? What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I remember hearing great things about those. Donald H. Snook ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>
[MBZ] SL500
Sold the SL500 today to an Armenian guy I was sure was a flipper. Turns out he was buying it for his kid. He beat on me relentlessly to try and get me down, but I walked away on him. A couple of minutes later he came back and gave me my price. I felt like I had just finished my first day of Marine boot camp when I was done. This guy was relentless. I ended up driving the car across Tampa to his house. I bit of an inconvenience, but allowed us to stop for dinner at a favorite German restaurant. -D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
In an ideal world we would have developed more nuclear power, right AZ bob? Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 8:28 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. > >> On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:18 AM mitch--- via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the >> day/night before it's driven? >> >>> On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >>> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal >>> fired power plant. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wotan the S550 lives!
Attaboy! Kevin in Lexington, NC Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 5:04 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > wrote: > > Sorta. Pumped a liter of tranny fluid into it through the cooler line and > it was moving but still needs more as it was not real happy. Drove it up to > the end of the driveway and back anyway. Still some work to do but that was > gratifying. Time to order new fluid and filter and do all that. > > Hood latches are stuck, I tried them before I put the hood down and they > popped open but with the hood latched they won’t. Bah. I got one popped by > reaching up in there but the other one could be a problem. I’ll have to see > how the lever pulls them and get the other one that way I guess. Good thing I > didn’t put the headlights in and bumper on yet. > > Always something! But it runs and no leaks from anything so I’m pleased with > that. Progress! > > --FT > Sent from iFōn > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
On 2022-05-28 17:02, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Lots of early Leafs in warm climates had warranty battery replacements. Does the current generation Leaf include active battery temperature management? Oops, I guess it was early Teslas and all Leafs that lack battery refrigeration. Battery hot, please slow down is not my idea of thermal management Ah, here we go. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/09/29/nissans-long-strange-trip-with-leaf-batteries/ It looks like the pre-2014 batteries cooked easily, then they changed the battery type to one that handled the heat better but still didn't do anything about cooling them. Then they had new problems with the larger batteries when those became available. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PERSONEL CAR IN 2014 WE HAD THIS CAR TOTALY REBUILT ADDED THE MAYBACH KIT DUAL TUNED EXZAUST /HUGE STREO
Iranian? Turk? On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:03 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I WANDR IF THEY WIL CLEEN IT > > WE WILL PUT IN SHOP DO SPOT PAINT HAVE WHEELS POLISHED AND ALL SERVIVE > NEEDED IN MY STATE OF THE ART SHOP > > > 2007 S550 MERCEDESE - $24,000(WINTER GARDEN) > > > https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/winter-garden-2007-s550-mercedese/7489285405.html > > -- > --FT > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
Yes the EV has more emissions to produce but breaks even by about year 5 in normal use on carbon IIRC. Thise little Aptera things have solar cells in the roof and are so light and aerodynamically slippery that you can charge about 40 miles a day on sunlight only. I may do that eventually but collision with any big SUVs would not be pretty, even with airbags. Karl On Thu, May 26, 2022, 1:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel burned > to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. Not to > mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they > should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > besides electric battery powered cars. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > > EVs are for pussies! > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > >> Curt > >> > >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important thing > with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to complete. > If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't know > how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin > posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > >> > >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed up. > You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive out > moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional > longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > >> > >> > On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: > >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep up > on > >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > >>> > >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and is > >>> pretty reliable which would I look for? > >>> > >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 is > >>> very good too. (Right?) > >>> > >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > >>> > >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > blue > >>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its own > >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives like > a > >>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to get > >>> everything heated up and working. > >>> > >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of that is > >>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short trips > >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a weekend > 600 > >>> miles or so maybe every few months. > >>> > >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > driven > >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the 602, > >>> 603, and 606? > >>> > >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I > >>> remember hearing great things about those. > >>> > >>> Donald H. Snook > >>> > >>> > >>> ___ > >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >>> > >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >>> > >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> > > > > > > ___ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >
[MBZ] Wotan the S550 lives!
Sorta. Pumped a liter of tranny fluid into it through the cooler line and it was moving but still needs more as it was not real happy. Drove it up to the end of the driveway and back anyway. Still some work to do but that was gratifying. Time to order new fluid and filter and do all that. Hood latches are stuck, I tried them before I put the hood down and they popped open but with the hood latched they won’t. Bah. I got one popped by reaching up in there but the other one could be a problem. I’ll have to see how the lever pulls them and get the other one that way I guess. Good thing I didn’t put the headlights in and bumper on yet. Always something! But it runs and no leaks from anything so I’m pleased with that. Progress! --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> Lots of early Leafs in warm climates had warranty battery replacements. Does the current generation Leaf include active battery temperature management? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-05-28 15:24, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: I thought it was a pretty well known fact the batteries in these die after about 5-8 years. I saw somebody earlier in this thread quote a longer lifespan for NiMH Prius batteries. NiMH doesn't mind being kept at 100% charge for extended periods, nor does it mind being discharged below 20%. I suspect it would last a bit longer than gently treated LiPo and much longer than abused LiPo. Still, it's rare to hear about LiPo or Li-Ion batteries in EVs dying before 5 years if the car incorporates active battery cooling to keep it under 90 degrees. Lots of early Leafs in warm climates had warranty battery replacements. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Dan or others: looking for tune-up guide for Kohler engine
The engine on my Cub Cadet (Kohler K301A engine) smells like it's running a little rich. It also sputters or misses occasionally. I've spray-cleaned the carb and run a bit of Techron in the gas the last two times I've used it. The foam sleeve over the paper air filter was pretty dirty so I cleaned that as well. Paper filter looked OK and I have not changed it. Seems about the same. I see two screws, one on top of the carb and one at a 45-degree angle. Online I found this: The top screw is the main jet and the 45-degree screw is the idle fuel. Start by fully seating the screws then 2 1/4 turns out on the main and 1 3/4 on the idle. Then start the engine and let it warm up for a couple of minutes. Idle the tractor down to about 1/8 throttle, and then slam it to full throttle. If the main jet is set correctly, it speed right up to full throttle. If it sputters, backfires, and tries to die, the mixture is too lean. If it stumbles and you see black smoke, it's too rich. If it passes that test, run it at full throttle and slowly richen the mixture until you get either an rpm drop, black smoke and rough running, or both; then slowly lean it again until you get an rpm rise. The peak of the rpm rise is the proper mixture. Sound about right? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Steel stampings
Are hard to bend --FT Sent from iFōn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I thought it was a pretty well known fact the batteries in these die after about 5-8 years. Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2022, at 2:18 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > I am not aware that EV battery packs expire in 5 years. Can you back up > that statement? > >> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 3:15 PM G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> If you do a hard cost analysis of purchase cost of the EV auto, then add in >> the hard cost of owning a solar power collection system to feed the EV with >> energy, then do an actual hard cost per mile used, it raises some real >> questions about just how economical the EV actually is to own and support, >> doesn't it? >> Somewhere along the way, you would need to factor in the expected service >> life of the EV, the solar system, storage batteries, and other equipment >> required, like the expected $20,000 + to replace the EV's battery packs in >> 5 years. >> >> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 12:02 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes < >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2022, at 11:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power >> systems. >>> >>> To me it's like having a septic system instead of utility sewer service. >>> I'll do it if there's no better option (and I do have a septic system at >> my >>> house) but I'd much rather pay a utility to handle it. >>> >>> I'd have to see a much-better-than-break-even proposal to be even >> slightly >>> interested in running my own solar panel rig. >>> >>> Allan >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2005 Freightliner MT45 - MBE900 diesel - 320k miles - $7, 500
Appears to be same engine as OM926LA but I can't find much info about it. https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/granite-city-2005-freightliner-mt45/7489271900.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - 121k miles - $8,000
I haven’t paid too much attention to R class stuff. I know that Deneil had one. I thought someone told me once that there’s some very mundane and necessary piece of service, that in order to perform it, you have to remove a goodly amount of the engine. AZBob Sent from my iPhone > On May 28, 2022, at 10:47 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > "These engines run 500k+ Miles" > > https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-2007-mercedes-r320-cdi-diesel/7489440189.html > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2007 R320 CDI - 121k miles - $8,000
"These engines run 500k+ Miles" https://stlouis.craigslist.org/cto/d/ballwin-2007-mercedes-r320-cdi-diesel/7489440189.html ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> That’s OK, Jim. There’s nothing in or around Hanford anyway, right?
Just one, IIRC. WPPSS ('whoops') was cancelled, and the old reactors
have mostly all been retired, or never finished, one by one.
-- Jim
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That’s OK, Jim. There’s nothing in or around Hanford anyway, right? -D > On May 28, 2022, at 12:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes > wrote: > >> The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. > > Or, in Washington. One of the few States whose general electric supply > is NOT fossil fuel. We have a lot of hydro, and wind. We used to have > some significant nuclear, too, but... > > -- Jim > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. Or, in Washington. One of the few States whose general electric supply is NOT fossil fuel. We have a lot of hydro, and wind. We used to have some significant nuclear, too, but... -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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> All you have to do is haul a huge load of rocks downhill then unload them to > go back up again! It's a meerkul!!! And how did those rocks get into the trains? And sufficiently far away from the destination end to not clog things up? Diesel. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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On 2022-05-28 10:34, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: But it’s not really going green is it after the environmental damage from mining the elements for the batteries and the petroleum used to produce the batteries, solar panels, and related equipment. Here's one way of looking at it: You could do all the above and drive 100,000 miles, and figure a per mile environmental impact. Or you could forget the home solar installation, include 2.5MWh of electricity in your total environmental impact, and divide by 100kmi. Or you could spend $5k bringing a preexisting E320 to mechanical perfection, and add 3500-4000 gallons of gas to your environmental impact. I have a feeling this one comes out the winner. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Well broken in 123 wagon on MB Market
Sort of like a pair of old shoes with worn out heels but hey, they are now iconic so open your wallet. https://thembmarket.com/1982-mercedes-benz-300td ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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I prefer a reality of no emissions from all the cars and trucks driving all over the place. We can control the power plant emissions. On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 10:44 AM G Mann via Mercedes wrote: > This one picture, with the technical details in the text, does a pretty > good job of connecting reality to the "zero emissions" of EV autos > argument. Behind the magic of push button living, there is the reality of > what it takes to have that luxury delivered. > [image: image.png] > > On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 5:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal fired > > power plant. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > > > > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel > > burned to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. > Not > > to mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they > > should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > > besides electric battery powered cars. > > >> > > >> Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > >> > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > EVs are for pussies! > > >> > > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > > >> > > > >> >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > >> >> > > >> >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > > cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > > >> >> Curt > > >> >> > > >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > > >> >> > > >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important thing > > with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to > complete. > > If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't > know > > how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin > > posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > > >> >> > > >> >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed > > up. You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive > > out moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > > especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional > > longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > > forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes > wrote: > > >> >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep > > up on > > >> >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and > > is > > >> >>> pretty reliable which would I look for? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 > is > > >> >>> very good too. (Right?) > > >> >>> > > >> >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > > blue > > >> >>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its > > own > > >> >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives > > like a > > >> >>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to > get > > >> >>> everything heated up and working. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of > that > > is > > >> >>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short > > trips > > >> >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a > weekend > > 600 > > >> >>> miles or so maybe every few months. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > > driven > > >> >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the > > 602, > > >> >>> 603, and 606? > > >> >>> > > >> >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I > > >> >>> remember hearing great things about those. > > >> >>> > > >> >>> Donald H. Snook > > >> >>> > > >> >>> > > >> >>> ___ > > >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> >>> > > >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> >>> > > >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > >> >> > > >> >> ___ > > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > > >> >> > > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > >> >> > > >> >> To Unsubscribe or
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But it’s not really going green is it after the environmental damage from mining the elements for the batteries and the petroleum used to produce the batteries, solar panels, and related equipment. Sent from my iPhone > On May 27, 2022, at 11:56 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes > wrote: > > This is my position. I’m more than wiling to “go green” if it makes good > financial sense. At present and for the foreseeable future, it doesn’t. > That’s whether it pertains to cars or stationary power systems. > > -D > >> On May 27, 2022, at 12:51 PM, G Mann via Mercedes >> wrote: >> >> In the interest of a reality check on that thought, consider this. >> 1. Since you would not be able to do a grid tie to the solar panels, you >> would not receive any government matching funds for purchase and install of >> the solar rack. Your cost for a 10KW solar array would be, approx, $15,000. >> 2. You then need an enclosed and vented space for a battery bank [insert >> cost per sq. ft of house area.] >> 3. You then need to purchase and maintain a battery bank. Estimated $8 to >> $10,000, with cables and racks. >> 4. Now, a solar controller, to control battery bank charging and inverter >> to control car charging. Estimate, $8 to $10,000 for that equipment. >> Which gives rise to the question: "Does $8 per gallon for diesel sound so >> bad in comparison, or are you truly committed to "Go Green via an EV"? >> >>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 7:20 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Putting aside the environmental and international economic and security >>> issues associated with lithium batteries and PV panels, I like the idea of >>> a garage with PV panels to charge your car. Of course you would need >>> storage batteries in your garage to collect and store the electrons from >>> solar photons so you can charge your car at night. The whole process should >>> be on the order of maybe 8% efficient if you’re lucky. >>> >>> --FT >>> Sent from iFōn >>> On May 27, 2022, at 4:31 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes < >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: When I first heard of ZEVs, I thought "Oh, you mean Remote Emissions >>> Vehicles". Mitch. > On 2022-05-26 17:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote: > And I don’t want to start the back and forth up, but the electricity > to charge those batteries has to come from somewhere, and it’s likely > generated using fossil fuels at present. > So the emissions are going to come from somewhere in the process, just > not from a tailpipe on the car in this case. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> ___ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>> >>> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Pre-emissions? -D > On May 28, 2022, at 9:17 AM, mitch--- via Mercedes > wrote: > > So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the day/night > before it's driven? > > On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: >> Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal >> fired power plant. >> Sent from my iPhone >>> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel >>> wrote: >>> >>> EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
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Perpetual free electric vehicle! https://jalopnik.com/these-electric-trains-never-need-recharging-thanks-to-r-1848975204 All you have to do is haul a huge load of rocks downhill then unload them to go back up again! It's a meerkul!!! --R On 5/28/22 9:49 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote: yes & 60 8% of electricity is generated from fossil fuels. -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 1996 Mercedes E50 AMG, Rare Japanese-Spec AMG, M119 V8 Power,
Very interesting car, Jap spec but LHD. The M119 would def wake up a 210. I bet this goes for close to $30k https://carsandbids.com/auctions/K1NRyezd/1996-mercedes-e50-amg -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] PERSONEL CAR IN 2014 WE HAD THIS CAR TOTALY REBUILT ADDED THE MAYBACH KIT DUAL TUNED EXZAUST /HUGE STREO
I WANDR IF THEY WIL CLEEN IT WE WILL PUT IN SHOP DO SPOT PAINT HAVE WHEELS POLISHED AND ALL SERVIVE NEEDED IN MY STATE OF THE ART SHOP 2007 S550 MERCEDESE - $24,000(WINTER GARDEN) https://orlando.craigslist.org/ctd/d/winter-garden-2007-s550-mercedese/7489285405.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The T1N sprinter is known for reliability, and traveling with peace of mind in remote places is especially nice to have.
2006 Mercedes Sprinter Conversion Van Home-on-Wheels - $45,000 https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/fort-mill-2006-mercedes-sprinter/7489124114.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Complete, for parts no title must go make offer 1973 Mercedes - $1, 000 (Apex)
no pics I DON'T NO WHAT HE GOT https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/apex-1973-mercedes/7489128034.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] GREAR MECHANICAL CONDITION, NO LOW BALLERS, 2009 MERCEDES-BENZ E350 ***BEAUTIFUL*** - $3, 999 (CHARLOTTE NC)
No pic of driver seat but otherwise looks decent. Nice color combo, AMG wheels, price not crazy for the miles https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/matthews-2009-mercedes-benz-e350/7489293167.html -- --FT ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
yes & 60 8% of electricity is generated from fossil fuels. On Sat, May 28, 2022, 8:54 AM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal fired > power plant. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > wrote: > > > > > > EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > > > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel > burned to run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. Not > to mention the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they > should have developed more nuclear power and figured out something else > besides electric battery powered cars. > >> > >> Sent from my iPhone > >> > >> > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> > > >> > EVs are for pussies! > >> > > >> > Sent from my iPhone > >> > > >> >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the > cabin is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. > >> >> Curt > >> >> > >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android > >> >> > >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes< > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: As I understand it, the important thing > with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs time to complete. > If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have problems. I don't know > how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving is enough time. Kevin > posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes with Bluetec. > >> >> > >> >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed > up. You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive > out moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK > especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional > longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven > forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. > >> >> > >> >> > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: > >> >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep > up on > >> >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. > >> >>> > >> >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and > is > >> >>> pretty reliable which would I look for? > >> >>> > >> >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 is > >> >>> very good too. (Right?) > >> >>> > >> >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? > >> >>> > >> >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the > blue > >> >>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its > own > >> >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives > like a > >> >>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to get > >> >>> everything heated up and working. > >> >>> > >> >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of that > is > >> >>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short > trips > >> >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a weekend > 600 > >> >>> miles or so maybe every few months. > >> >>> > >> >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be > driven > >> >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the > 602, > >> >>> 603, and 606? > >> >>> > >> >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I > >> >>> remember hearing great things about those. > >> >>> > >> >>> Donald H. Snook > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> ___ > >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >>> > >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >>> > >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ___ > >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> >> > >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > ___ > >> > http://www.okiebenz.com > >> > > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > >> > > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > >> >
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
The power plant can be wind or solar, in an ideal world. On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:18 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the > day/night before it's driven? > > On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > > Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal > > fired power plant. > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > >> On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel > >> wrote: > >> > >> > >> EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 wagon - 179k miles - $1,600
Touche. On Sat, May 28, 2022 at 9:19 AM mitch--- via Mercedes wrote: > On 2022-05-27 23:34, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: > > Doesn't look too bad from what I can see, but ... extension cord > > closed in door ... ozone cleaner? Dehumidifier? > > > > > https://muncie.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-castle-1999-mercedes-benz/7489153373.html > > Charger. Battery is under passenger side of back seat, hence the cord in > the rear passenger door. > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 wagon - 179k miles - $1,600
On 2022-05-27 23:34, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote: Doesn't look too bad from what I can see, but ... extension cord closed in door ... ozone cleaner? Dehumidifier? https://muncie.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-castle-1999-mercedes-benz/7489153373.html Charger. Battery is under passenger side of back seat, hence the cord in the rear passenger door. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
So, instead of making emissions when driven, it makes emissions the day/night before it's driven? On 2022-05-28 08:54, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote: Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal fired power plant. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MB diesel education and advice
Uh no, you are moving the emissions from your tail pipe to the coal fired power plant. Sent from my iPhone > On May 26, 2022, at 4:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote: > > > EV have no emissions when driven so that's the benefit. > >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 4:03 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes >> wrote: >> I read an article recently about the massive amount of diesel fuel burned to >> run the equipment to mine the minerals to make 1 EV battery. Not to mention >> the soil that must be moved. For the last 30 or 40 years they should have >> developed more nuclear power and figured out something else besides electric >> battery powered cars. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> > On May 26, 2022, at 2:31 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes >> > wrote: >> > >> > EVs are for pussies! >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> >> On May 26, 2022, at 3:07 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> 6-8 mile commutes are where an EV excels. Electric heat means the cabin >> >> is warm quickly and you don't need to worry about range. >> >> Curt >> >> >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 11:31 AM, Allan Streib via >> >> Mercedes wrote: As I understand it, the >> >> important thing with Blue Tec is that the DPF "regeneration" cycle needs >> >> time to complete. If it's frequently interrupted, you eventually have >> >> problems. I don't know how long a cycle takes, or if 6-8 miles of driving >> >> is enough time. Kevin posted a writeup a while back on someone's woes >> >> with Bluetec. >> >> >> >> It's not great for any car, gas or diesel, to not get fully warmed up. >> >> You really want to get the engine oil and exhaust fully warm to drive out >> >> moisture. That said, a 6-8 miles drive twice daily is probably OK >> >> especially if some of it is at highway speeds and you're doing occasional >> >> longer drives. You might be better off with a gasser though, or (heaven >> >> forbid) even an EV for a commute that short. >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, May 26, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote: >> >>> I have been out of the MB diesel game for too long and can’t keep up on >> >>> the nomenclature and which ones to avoid. >> >>> >> >>> If I was looking for a Mercedes diesel that would get 30+ mpg and is >> >>> pretty reliable which would I look for? >> >>> >> >>> I know the 124 diesel with the 2.5 (602?) is great. And the 603 is >> >>> very good too. (Right?) >> >>> >> >>> The 606 in the 124 and 210 is also good? >> >>> >> >>> Then, the CDI started and the Black Death is a big concern and the blue >> >>> tec is next. Someone mentioned the other day that bluetec has its own >> >>> issues — most notably it is not good for relatively short drives like a >> >>> 10 minute commute. It really needs to be driven for a while to get >> >>> everything heated up and working. >> >>> >> >>> My cars now get driven to work only 6-8 miles one way. Half of that is >> >>> on the highway - obviously not for long. Then relatively short trips >> >>> on the weekend. occasionally we drive long distances over a weekend 600 >> >>> miles or so maybe every few months. >> >>> >> >>> So, if I want a fuel efficient MB diesel that doesn’t have to be driven >> >>> 30 minutes at a time, should I be focused on 124 and 210 with the 602, >> >>> 603, and 606? >> >>> >> >>> What was the six cylinder non-turbo that was in the 124 and 210? I >> >>> remember hearing great things about those. >> >>> >> >>> Donald H. Snook >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> ___ >> >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >>> >> >>> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >>> >> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> >> >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > http://www.okiebenz.com >> > >> > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> > >> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > >> >> >> ___ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >>
Re: [MBZ] 1999 E320 wagon - 179k miles - $1,600
Curious. I wonder if the inside is trashed. —FT Sent from my iPad > On May 27, 2022, at 11:35 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes > wrote: > > Doesn't look too bad from what I can see, but ... extension cord closed in > door ... ozone cleaner? Dehumidifier? > > https://muncie.craigslist.org/cto/d/new-castle-1999-mercedes-benz/7489153373.html > > ___ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
