Re: [MBZ] Cleaning out gas tank

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Acid will eat holes in the tank if you leave it too long, especially if there 
are already thin spots from rust.


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 19:29, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
> Muriatic acid = hydrochloric acid
> It'll work MUCH faster but is much more dangerous, goggles and gloves 
> for that. It'll also leave a chlorine ion on the surface that will 
> promote rusting. Hang some steel over a cup of hydrochloric acid, the 
> fumes will rust the metal.
>
> Phosphoric acid is a better choice, it leaves behind a phosphor ion 
> that will protect against flash rust and help with adhesion if you 
> decide to seal the tank. You should seal the tank...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 08:22:25 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
> Took the tank down to the car wash and got a massive amount of chunks 
> out of the tank. I really don’t think I got all of it but I got as much 
> as I could. Going to buy ingredients tomorrow to work on cleaning it 
> out. I have read about using either vinegar or muriatic acid. Anybody 
> have an opinion one way or the other? Seems like with the acid it is 
> stronger and I would have to get it all done fairly quickly. With the 
> vinegar maybe I let it sit for a week or longer rotating the tank 
> occasionally? 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Again, the issue in my case was the lack of a title.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 6:27 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I would guess that Florida is not inclined to help California with anything 
> these days, but legally they may be obligated if there is some kind of 
> contract or law in place.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 19:48, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that 
>> term loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.
>> 
>> Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s 
>> a state with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)
>> 
>> I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.
>> 
>> I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with 
>> other states.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
>>> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
>>> 
>>> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
>>> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
>>> 
>>> D.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
>>> 
>>> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
>>> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
>>> 
>>> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I would guess that Florida is not inclined to help California with anything 
these days, but legally they may be obligated if there is some kind of contract 
or law in place.


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 19:48, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that 
> term loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.
>
> Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s 
> a state with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)
>
> I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.
>
> I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with 
> other states.
>
> -D
>
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
>> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
>> 
>> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
>> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
>> 
>> D.
>> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
>> 
>> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
>> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
>> 
>> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
>> 
>> -D
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I think with my 300SE the lawyer managing the estate (and I use that term 
loosely) either didn’t have the pink slip or it had been lost.

Florida won’t accept cars without a title from out of state unless it’s a state 
with a time limit or that allows bills of sale (GA, PA?)

I had to have a pink slip or I couldn’t get it titled in FL.

I wouldn't be be surprised if CA had some sort of reciprocity deal with other 
states.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 12:36 PM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
> normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.
> 
> I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
> other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.
> 
> D.
> 
> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:
> 
> If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
> you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.
> 
> Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Cleaning out gas tank

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Muriatic acid = hydrochloric acid
It'll work MUCH faster but is much more dangerous, goggles and gloves for that. 
It'll also leave a chlorine ion on the surface that will promote rusting. Hang 
some steel over a cup of hydrochloric acid, the fumes will rust the metal.

Phosphoric acid is a better choice, it leaves behind a phosphor ion that will 
protect against flash rust and help with adhesion if you decide to seal the 
tank. You should seal the tank...

-Curt




On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 08:22:25 PM EDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Took the tank down to the car wash and got a massive amount of chunks out of 
the tank. I really don’t think I got all of it but I got as much as I could. 
Going to buy ingredients tomorrow to work on cleaning it out. I have read about 
using either vinegar or muriatic acid. Anybody have an opinion one way or the 
other? Seems like with the acid it is stronger and I would have to get it all 
done fairly quickly. With the vinegar maybe I let it sit for a week or longer 
rotating the tank occasionally? 

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[MBZ] Cleaning out gas tank

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Took the tank down to the car wash and got a massive amount of chunks out of 
the tank. I really don’t think I got all of it but I got as much as I could. 
Going to buy ingredients tomorrow to work on cleaning it out. I have read about 
using either vinegar or muriatic acid. Anybody have an opinion one way or the 
other? Seems like with the acid it is stronger and I would have to get it all 
done fairly quickly. With the vinegar maybe I let it sit for a week or longer 
rotating the tank occasionally? 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Jiminy Crickets! I just looked up the log and you've had that car for 10 years.

I was thinking it was 2 or 3...

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 06:57:32 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

> Can it be heli-coiled?

Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a 
larger hole anyway.

> Without pulling the engine?

That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at 
least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I don't think I'm stepping out of line when I say that if anybody can do it Jim 
Cathey can.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 06:57:32 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

> Can it be heli-coiled?

Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a 
larger hole anyway.

> Without pulling the engine?

That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at 
least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

This is why I learned to replace delivery valve seals myself. I paid $1000 once 
to have dv seals replaced on my '85 190D. It cost so much because the guy 
screwed up on his first try.

That was when I decided "Why pay somebody else to screw up things that I can 
screw up perfectly well myself?"

-Curt




On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 05:28:53 PM EDT, Rick Knoble via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





> Well, I'm completely screwed.

No. You just face a new, and unexpected challenge.

> Basically the engine block is ruined.

Can it be heli-coiled?
Without pulling the engine?

> And I spent money to have it ruined for me.

I *hate* when that happens. I usually buy the tools and do the ruination myself.

BTW, I feel about Bmw's how Dimitri feels about Japanese cars.

Rick

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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

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On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 16:28, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:

> Can it be heli-coiled?

Maybe look into a timesert repair. That requires drilling out and tapping a 
larger hole anyway.

> Without pulling the engine?

That will be the question. Apparently the "professional" got in there on at 
least one of the bores. Might need a right-angle drill adaptor.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[OK Don via Mercedes]

As my Dad always said, "If you want it done right, do it yourself."

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:58 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Terrible that you cannot trust so-called professionals to actually be that.
>
> I am not sure what the answer is, other than going by local reputation.
> But even that isn't a guarantee. I had a supposed "good" local shop return
> a car to me with no hose clamps on the new hose they had installed as part
> of a job to replace a water pump and thermostat. I have had tire shops
> return cars with the wheel nuts loose. I have had cars returned and found
> tools left in the engine compartment. Very simple things, yet they overlook
> them. I hate to imagine what happens on more complex jobs.
>
> Allan
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Again, the only way you could do it is if you live in a state that doesn’t 
require a title, or maybe the “title washing” services like I used.

CA won’t issue a “pink slip” (title) unless everything on the vehicle is 
current.

-D

On Aug 27, 2022, at 8:33 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes  
wrote:


Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration must 
be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak.

AZBob

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
 wrote:





If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state,
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA
releases the title/registration?

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] 2012 GL350 Diesel - 90k miles - $18,500

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

Yeah that’s pretty high for a 2012 but the miles aren’t too high. Reflects what 
I see as ~20-30% premium in the Midwest for cars likely to be rusty v. Suthrun 
cars

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> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:26 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> 
> Seems highly overpriced.  My 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec sold for $12K 2.5 years
> ago
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:37 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>> 
>> Black, with a tow hitch. Not many photos but what is shown looks OK
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] needs some repair (and eye bleach) 2008 mercedes - $4, 000 (Salisburysalisbury)

[Frederick Moir via Mercedes]

TRON-mobile?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:54 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> you should ask how much just for the radio
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/27/22 11:43 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> > But it has a nice radio.
> >
> > On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:41, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Looks like a CLS550, sorta
> >>
> >> 2008 mercedes v8 motor. Good air power everything's nice radio has it
> all
> >>
> >>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-2008-mercedes/7526132329.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

> Well, I'm completely screwed.

No. You just face a new, and unexpected challenge.

> Basically the engine block is ruined.

Can it be heli-coiled?
Without pulling the engine?

> And I spent money to have it ruined for me.

I *hate* when that happens. I usually buy the tools and do the ruination myself.

BTW, I feel about Bmw's how Dimitri feels about Japanese cars.

Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT: You know what I have - 1987 Buick Grand National - 14K miles

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

I was looking at them at the time. I think they were about $17k. Wish I would 
have put $17k in the S&P after the October '87 crash.


Rick

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: You know what I have - 1987 Buick Grand National - 14K miles

Always lusted for one of these as a younger man. Wish I had the money to buy 
one back in the day.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/selma-1987-buick-grand-national/7526714044.html

Not spending $44k on one now though.
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[MBZ] Bugaloo Perry: Needs power steering and radiator mechanic special runs good 2001 Mercedes-Benz e-class, $1, 000

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

This doesn't look too bad for cheap.  A rad and PS stuff could come off 
a donor


SEROUS INQUIRIES ONLY Please price is NEGOTIABLE...

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/5129969377113981

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[MBZ] Realtor spec dizzel looks to be in good shape 2007 Mercedes E320D - $8, 900 (Charlotte)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

odometer: *127000*


 2007 Mercedes E320D - $8,900(Charlotte)

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[MBZ] Who was asking about extraction cleaner and cleaning upholstery and carpet?

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

You can skip ahead to ~29min to see how he is cleaning a really nasty 
interior using a small Bissell extractor like the one I got. He could 
have used a steam cleaner too but just used TuffStuff on the trim.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hz3xDx3SNxQ

He also did some paint buffing in the earlier part of the vid.

I really like this guy, he gets cars with issues for usually pretty 
cheap and does a lot of work on them for not a lot of money, and turns 
them into good rides.  Nice guy too.  Some kid bought this car and he is 
getting it fixed up for him.


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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[David Bruckmann via Mercedes]

As a Californian with six vehicles, I can tell you that it is completely
normal to have the pink slip, whether or not the registration is paid.

I do *not* know, however, whether the CA government has any agreements with
other states to disallow transfer without payment of the back taxes.

D.

On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 Dan Penoff wrote:

If you're in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title
you could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.

Otherwise, you'll have to settle up with CA to get a title.

-D
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Re: [MBZ] 1966 200D - 102k miles - $8,000

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> claims to need a torque converter (I think these used a fluid coupler?)

Probably.  Our 1971 250C has a fluid coupler, not a torque converter.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] 1966 200D - 102k miles - $8,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Looks cosmetically nice, claims to need a torque converter (I think these used 
a fluid coupler?)

Also at least in the photo it seems to be missing the air cleaner.

https://norfolk.craigslist.org/cto/d/chesapeake-mercedes-200d/7526620738.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E 500 - 212k miles - $5,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I should start shopping the southeast for cars.


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 14:07, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> I should bring mine up there and have you sell it for about $1.5-2k more 
> than what someone might pay around here
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/27/22 2:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Gaudy wheels and high-ish miles. But price maybe not too insane.
>>
>> https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/murfreesboro-2004-mercedes-benz-500/7526713271.html
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Re: [MBZ] 2004 E 500 - 212k miles - $5,900

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I should bring mine up there and have you sell it for about $1.5-2k more 
than what someone might pay around here


--FT

On 8/27/22 2:54 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Gaudy wheels and high-ish miles. But price maybe not too insane.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/murfreesboro-2004-mercedes-benz-500/7526713271.html

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[MBZ] 2004 E 500 - 212k miles - $5,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Gaudy wheels and high-ish miles. But price maybe not too insane.

https://nashville.craigslist.org/cto/d/murfreesboro-2004-mercedes-benz-500/7526713271.html

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[MBZ] 1985 Euro 500SL - 50k miles - $16,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Aftermarket radio, interior showing a little age. But looks pretty solid.

https://chicago.craigslist.org/sox/cto/d/hickory-hills-mercedes-sl/7526641119.html

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[MBZ] OT: You know what I have - 1987 Buick Grand National - 14K miles

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Always lusted for one of these as a younger man. Wish I had the money to buy 
one back in the day.

https://indianapolis.craigslist.org/cto/d/selma-1987-buick-grand-national/7526714044.html

Not spending $44k on one now though.
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

If you’re in a state that will accept a bill of sale rather than a title you 
could go that way and avoid the pink slip crap from CA.

Otherwise, you’ll have to settle up with CA to get a title.

-D

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 8:19 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, or 
> can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA releases the 
> title/registration?
> 
> --FT
> 
>> On 8/27/22 10:49 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/568555741618345/
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Terrible that you cannot trust so-called professionals to actually be that.

I am not sure what the answer is, other than going by local reputation. But 
even that isn't a guarantee. I had a supposed "good" local shop return a car to 
me with no hose clamps on the new hose they had installed as part of a job to 
replace a water pump and thermostat. I have had tire shops return cars with the 
wheel nuts loose. I have had cars returned and found tools left in the engine 
compartment. Very simple things, yet they overlook them. I hate to imagine what 
happens on more complex jobs.

Allan

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[MBZ] OT: BMW X5

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Well, I'm completely screwed.  When I went to put the car back together I
found that the 'professional' mobile mechanic had trapped one of the oil
cooler pipes on the wrong side of the mount.  I had to remove the mount
arm again in order to rectify things.  I jacked up the engine as step one.
That's when I discovered:

1) The arm was rattling loose on the block, once tension had been removed.

WTF?  I then went to remove the five bolts that hold the arm on the engine.
And I discover:

2) All five bolts are not even finger-tight.  I did not need a wrench to remove 
them.
I did need two different sockets.

With the arm out of there I can finally see the work site.  The original 
problem was
three broken-off bolts, which the mechanic was hired to remove.  What I find is:

3) All three bolt holes are hogged out large.  One has a protruding helicoil in 
it, the
other two are not even threaded, and are broken out into the air on one side.  
The
large holes are shallower than the originals, and I think I can see bolt 
residue at
the bottoms.

Basically the engine block is ruined.  And I spent money to have it ruined for 
me.

IF I can drill the arm and deploy a never-used bolt hole in the casting, and 
can get
the one helicoiled hole to hold torque, it's possible the situation can be 
recovered
somewhat, having working 4 bolts total.  I don't know if the helicoil was not 
installed
to depth, or if he didn't actually tap it properly and it just pulled out when 
he applied
torque.  Guess I need to figure that out next.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] 2012 GL350 Diesel - 90k miles - $18,500

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Seems highly overpriced.  My 2014 GLK 250 Bluetec sold for $12K 2.5 years
ago

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:37 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> Black, with a tow hitch. Not many photos but what is shown looks OK
>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nuh huh.  I am an omicron/B5 victim.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:21 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> I believe that was more common with the pre omicron variants.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> 
> Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>
>> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the
>> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
>> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along
>> with slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of
>> smell/taste the common denominator among all symptoms?
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive
>> even if you are.
>> >
>> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said
>> to swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
>> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
>> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
>> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
>> hadn't swiped enough.
>> >
>> > -Curt
>> >
>> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
>> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
>> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
>> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> >
>> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time
>> just as she is testing negative now.
>> >>
>> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
>> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
>> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
>> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> >>
>> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me
>> any good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew
>> today and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
>> caffeine withdrawal.
>> >>
>> >> -Curt
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
>> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
>> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
>> re-infection.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> 
>> 
>> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when
>> I
>> > came down with it...
>> >>>
>>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>>
>> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> >>>
>> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort
>> of croak...
>> >>>
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>>
>> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>   wrote:
>> 
>>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>  came down with it...
>> >>>
>> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>>
>> >>>
>>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> >>>
>> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> >>>
>> >>> Get well.
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> Craig
>> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Is it an E? Is it an S? 350 Blue Tec diesel -- Black Mercedes Benz - $14, 500 (Henderson)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I ran the VIN.  It's an S350.  Fairly priced.  Where is Henderson?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 11:39 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> It's an S350 but also says it's a *2012 mercedes benz e350.  price is
> not crazy
> *
>
> *
> https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/henderson-black-mercedes-benz/7526466954.html
> *
>
> *
> *
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I believe that was more common with the pre omicron variants.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 1:19 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
> 
> 
> Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...
> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the 
>> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with 
>> slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste 
>> the common denominator among all symptoms?
>> 
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even 
>> > if you are.
>> > 
>> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to 
>> > swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 
>> > seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This 
>> > time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 
>> > swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just 
>> > hadn't swiped enough.
>> > 
>> > -Curt
>> > 
>> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> >  wrote: 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari 
>> > had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including 
>> > one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>> > 
>> > Sent from my iPhone
>> > 
>> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> >> 
>> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just 
>> >> as she is testing negative now. 
>> >> 
>> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
>> >> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not 
>> >> so bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no 
>> >> so bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> >> 
>> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any 
>> >> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today 
>> >> and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was 
>> >> caffeine withdrawal.
>> >> 
>> >> -Curt
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> >>  wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >> 
>> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  
>> >> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from 
>> >> re-infection.
>> >> 
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >> 
>> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote:
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  
>> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> > came down with it...
>> >>> 
>>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> >>> 
>> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> >>> croak...
>> >>> 
>> >>> -Curt
>> >>> 
>> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>> >>>  wrote: 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>   wrote:
>>  
>>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>  came down with it...
>> >>> 
>> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> >>> 
>> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> >>> 
>> >>> Get well.
>> >>> 
>> >>> 
>> >>> Craig
>> >>> 
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Re: [MBZ] 1998 E320 Wagon

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

"A/C need a recharge but the blower works amazing."
Translation:  Blows HOT all day long.

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> Not ridiculous by today’s standards.
>
>
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/473748664225578/
>
>
>
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>
>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Interesting.  I hope my taste and smell return sooner rather than later...

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Curt Raymond  wrote:

> I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the
> neighborhood must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel <
> astrasfo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along
> with slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of
> smell/taste the common denominator among all symptoms?
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> > I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive
> even if you are.
> >
> > One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said
> to swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
> hadn't swiped enough.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just
> as she is testing negative now.
> >>
> >> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> >>
> >> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me
> any good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew
> today and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
> caffeine withdrawal.
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
> re-infection.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> 
> 
> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> > came down with it...
> >>>
>  I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> >>>
> >>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort
> of croak...
> >>>
> >>> -Curt
> >>>
> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>   wrote:
> 
>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>  came down with it...
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>>
> >>>
>  It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >>>
> >>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> >>>
> >>> Get well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I haven't lost any sense of taste or smell at all. Somebody in the neighborhood 
must have mowed the lawn today, I can smell the grass...

-Curt




On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 01:16:51 PM EDT, Andrew Strasfogel 
 wrote: 





My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with 
slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste the 
common denominator among all symptoms?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
 wrote:
> I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even if 
> you are.
> 
> One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to 
> swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This 
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 swipes 
> per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just hadn't swiped 
> enough.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
> obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
> test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
>> she is testing negative now. 
>> 
>> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
>> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
>> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
>> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
>> 
>> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any 
>> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and 
>> my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
>> withdrawal.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
>> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
 
> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came down with it...
>>> 
 I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>>> 
>>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>>> 
>>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>>> croak...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
 On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
  wrote:
 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>>> 
>>> 
 It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>>> 
>>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>>> 
>>> Get well.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Craig
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] SEEMEEGREEN - Smart car 2008 made by Mercedes - $8, 800 (Port Richey)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

car.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 1:18 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Cute low mileage example.  OK can for hermits and diehard bachelors.
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:00 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-smart-car-2008-made-by/7526265329.html
>>
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Re: [MBZ] SEEMEEGREEN - Smart car 2008 made by Mercedes - $8, 800 (Port Richey)

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Cute low mileage example.  OK can for hermits and diehard bachelors.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

>
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-smart-car-2008-made-by/7526265329.html
>
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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My only lingering symptom is diminished sense of taste and smell along with
slight nasal congestion.  Otherwise feeling fine.  Is loss of smell/taste
the common denominator among all symptoms?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:03 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even
> if you are.
>
> One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to
> swipe the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3
> seconds per swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This
> time I set a stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30
> swipes per nostril. I wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just
> hadn't swiped enough.
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari
> had obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including
> one pcr test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just
> as she is testing negative now.
> >
> > I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so
> bad today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> >
> > I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any
> good when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today
> and my headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was
> caffeine withdrawal.
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> > On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis <
> dsereta...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent
> previous infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from
> re-infection.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>>
>  After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>  came down with it...
> >>
> >>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>
> >> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> >>
> >> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of
> croak...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> >>> came down with it...
> >>
> >> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> >>
> >>
> >>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >>
> >> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> >>
> >> Get well.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] This looks really nice -- odometer: 105000 -- 1996’ mercedes e300 diesel, 105k miles - $5,400 (Fort Myers)

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Is this the last year of the non-turbodiesel diesels?

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022 at 12:19 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Fly in, "sorry I sold it an hour ago"
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 11:12, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> > Fly in, drive home
> >
> > --FT
> >
> > On 8/27/22 12:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Dang I wish that were closer.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:51, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> geezermobile?  Looks to be in excellent condition
> >>>
> >>>
> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/d/fort-myers-1996-mercedes-e300-diesel/7526625187.html
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Beater wagon -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class,$1,800

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What can go wrong with PS that is repairable?  I only know leaks...

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/455534923157655
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood stove

[greg via Mercedes]

That being said, I have a traditional style "airtight" stove, IIRC it is
"Earth Stove" brand. It utilizes convection vents on either side, and is
fully lined with firebrick. My home is around 2,700 sq. ft. and has a heat
pump, but I run the stove to supplement the heat during sub-freezing
temps. One time I had forgotten to set the heat pump to heat only, and
when I ran the woodstove the A/C kicked on.

Yes, the glass darkens quickly.

Greg

> For efficiency, pellet stoves are a good bet. They are very popular here
> in the PNW. A typical setup here is a pellet stove backed up by resistance
> baseboard heat. They require less attention than a traditional woodstove
> and utilize waste products of lumbermills.
>
> Greg
>
>
>> For a variety of reasons I've been thinking about putting in a wood
>> stove.
>> I'd like something well made and efficient but also reasonably
>> attractive
>> to look at. Any recommendations?
>>
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[MBZ] Beater wagon -- 2005 Mercedes-Benz e-class,$1,800

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/455534923157655

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Re: [MBZ] This looks really nice -- odometer: 105000 -- 1996’ mercedes e300 diesel, 105k miles - $5,400 (Fort Myers)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Fly in, "sorry I sold it an hour ago"


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 11:12, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Fly in, drive home
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/27/22 12:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>> Dang I wish that were closer.
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:51, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> geezermobile?  Looks to be in excellent condition
>>>
>>> https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/d/fort-myers-1996-mercedes-e300-diesel/7526625187.html
>>>
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Re: [MBZ] This looks really nice -- odometer: 105000 -- 1996’ mercedes e300 diesel, 105k miles - $5,400 (Fort Myers)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Fly in, drive home

--FT

On 8/27/22 12:01 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

Dang I wish that were closer.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:51, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

geezermobile?  Looks to be in excellent condition

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/d/fort-myers-1996-mercedes-e300-diesel/7526625187.html

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I've heard that if you have sinus issues you might not show positive even if 
you are.

One thing I noticed when I tested last (Abbot test) was that they said to swipe 
the nostril 5 times and that it should take 15 seconds. That's 3 seconds per 
swipe which is probably 6 times longer than I was doing. This time I set a 
stopwatch and just swiped for 15 seconds, probably 20-30 swipes per nostril. I 
wonder if the previous tests I'd taken if I just hadn't swiped enough.

-Curt

On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:57:23 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote: 





I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
> she is testing negative now. 
> 
> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> 
> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
> when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
> headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
> withdrawal.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> 
>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> croak...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
>> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> 
>>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> 
>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> 
>> Get well.
>> 
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] This looks really nice -- odometer: 105000 -- 1996’ mercedes e300 diesel, 105k miles - $5,400 (Fort Myers)

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Dang I wish that were closer.

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> geezermobile?  Looks to be in excellent condition
>
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[MBZ] SEEMEEGREEN - Smart car 2008 made by Mercedes - $8, 800 (Port Richey)

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https://tampa.craigslist.org/psc/cto/d/new-port-richey-smart-car-2008-made-by/7526265329.html

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I’m happy to hear that you are recovering well. I got it in April, Kari had 
obvious symptoms but never tested positive despite 4 tests including one pcr 
test. Tests are clearly very unreliable, especially home tests.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 27, 2022, at 11:23 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as 
> she is testing negative now. 
> 
> I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I 
> suspect what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so 
> bad to get through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad 
> today. Interestingly I feel better after I eat.
> 
> I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
> when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
> headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
> withdrawal.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
>  wrote: 
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> 
> Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
> infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
 After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
 came down with it...
>> 
>>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
>> 
>> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
>> croak...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
>> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
>> 
>> 
>>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
>> 
>> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
>> 
>> Get well.
>> 
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[MBZ] dream car Mercedes S500 4Matic - $7,900 (Sarasota)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

A bad dream maybe at that price but it does look pretty nice

*2005 mercedes benz S500 4Matic *
*odometer: *71120**

https://sarasota.craigslist.org/ctd/d/sarasota-dream-car-mercedes-s500-4matic/7526564020.html

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Re: [MBZ] needs some repair (and eye bleach) 2008 mercedes - $4, 000 (Salisburysalisbury)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

you should ask how much just for the radio

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On 8/27/22 11:43 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:

But it has a nice radio.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:41, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like a CLS550, sorta

2008 mercedes v8 motor. Good air power everything's nice radio has it all

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-2008-mercedes/7526132329.html

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[MBZ] odometer: 200000--1988 mercedes-benz e300 - $4, 800 (Fort Myers)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks pretty nice but not $4800 nice for a 34yo car but who knows

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/d/fort-myers-1988-mercedes-benz-e300/7526613461.html

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[MBZ] This looks really nice -- odometer: 105000 -- 1996’ mercedes e300 diesel, 105k miles - $5,400 (Fort Myers)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

geezermobile?  Looks to be in excellent condition

https://fortmyers.craigslist.org/lee/cto/d/fort-myers-1996-mercedes-e300-diesel/7526625187.html

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[MBZ] 1975 mercedes 450sl -- mercedes & rolex - $15, 000 (port orange)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

I know nothing about watches and care even less about them, but the SL 
looks really nice from the 2 pics


https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/port-orange-mercedes-rolex/7526318226.html

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Does the owner hold the actual paper tittle in Kommiefawnya or does the 
state DMV retain it?  But yeah, buy the car, get a BoS, and launder it 
through some other state that doesn't deal with that nonsense.


--FT

On 8/27/22 11:34 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have 
it, so to speak.

Screw 'em.  Demanding payment for services NOT rendered?  Wash the title 
elsewhere
and CA be damned.

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Re: [MBZ] Tracing electrical wiring

[OK Don via Mercedes]

It will work either way - it doesn't care which end is connected to what.
I've heard them called a "toner" - puts a "tone" signal on the wire, and
has a receiver to hear where it goes. Since it goes into conduit (I
assume metal?), you'll need to go to all possible termination points to
listen for the tone.
One possibility that comes to mind is a big ventilation fan somewhere
(since I just installed a small one in the hangar).

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 9:47 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> On Fri, 26 Aug 2022 20:46:39 -0500 Allan Streib via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > I believe that there is a device that can be attached to the circuit
> > that will put a high frequency signal on the wire, which then acts as a
> > broadcast antenna. A separate device acting as a receiver can be used
> > to trace the wire behind the wall. I don't know exactly what it's
> > called or how expensive it is. Might be something you just hire an
> > elechicken to do if it's a one-time need.
>
> I thought those were for finding which breaker controls which outlet,
> with the transmitter on the outlet end of the wiring and the receiver
> scanned over the breakers in the breaker panel.
>
> That is the opposite problem of the one I am trying to solve.
>
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Re: [MBZ] needs some repair (and eye bleach) 2008 mercedes - $4, 000 (Salisburysalisbury)

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

But it has a nice radio.

On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:41, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> Looks like a CLS550, sorta
>
> 2008 mercedes v8 motor. Good air power everything's nice radio has it all
>
> https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-2008-mercedes/7526132329.html
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[MBZ] needs some repair (and eye bleach) 2008 mercedes - $4, 000 (Salisburysalisbury)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Looks like a CLS550, sorta

2008 mercedes v8 motor. Good air power everything's nice radio has it all

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/salisbury-2008-mercedes/7526132329.html

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

What is there to "let you have" ?

I can see if they are re-titling it in Krazyfornia, but if the owner has the 
title and can provide it wth sale why would another state care about taxes owed 
there?

Might be the case that the car could be impounded if you were caught with the 
car there later.


On Sat, Aug 27, 2022, at 10:32, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration 
> must be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak.
>  
> AZBob
>  
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> *From: *Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV
> 
>  
> I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process.
>  
> -Curt
>  
>  
> On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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>  
>  
>  
>  
> If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state,
> or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA
> releases the title/registration?
>  
> --FT
>  
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[MBZ] Is it an E? Is it an S? 350 Blue Tec diesel -- Black Mercedes Benz - $14, 500 (Henderson)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

It's an S350 but also says it's a *2012 mercedes benz e350.  price is 
not crazy

*

*https://raleigh.craigslist.org/cto/d/henderson-black-mercedes-benz/7526466954.html
*

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[MBZ] 2012 GL350 Diesel - 90k miles - $18,500

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Black, with a tow hitch. Not many photos but what is shown looks OK

https://chicago.craigslist.org/chc/cto/d/chicago-mercedes-gl/7526594884.html
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[MBZ] wow -- 1999 Mercedes-Benz sl-class SL 500 Roadster 2D - $26, 000 (Yulee, FL)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

would someone actually pay this much for a R129?  I'm sure it is in 
really good condition, but still, you can get a much newer roadster for 
that kind of money.


https://jacksonville.craigslist.org/cto/d/yulee-1999-mercedes-benz-sl-class-sl/7526585550.html

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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> I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have 
> it, so to speak.

Screw 'em.  Demanding payment for services NOT rendered?  Wash the title 
elsewhere
and CA be damned.

-- jim

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood stove

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

Pellet stoves do burn very clean, and they're very efficient.  One 40# bag of 
pellets
will heat the beach cabin for 24 hours.  (40# of firewood will barely get you 
through
the morning.)  Their piddly little flame, with no coals, is not aesthetically 
very pleasing,
though.  The wood stove is very attractive, if the glass is clean.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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Dan knows for sure…I’m pretty sure… but I’m thinking the back registration must be paid before they will let you have it, so to speak. AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows From: Curt Raymond via MercedesSent: Saturday, August 27, 2022 8:25 AMTo: mercedes@okiebenz.comCc: Curt RaymondSubject: Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process. -Curt  On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes  wrote:  If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA releases the title/registration? --FT On 8/27/22 10:49 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/568555741618345/> > AZBob> > Sent from Mail  for > Windows> > > ___> http://www.okiebenz.com> > To search list archiveshttp://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> -- --FT ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  ___http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to:http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com  

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood stove

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> For a variety of reasons I've been thinking about putting in a wood stove. 
> I'd like something well made and efficient but also reasonably attractive to 
> look at. Any recommendations?

I put in Quadra-fire inserts to replace the ratty old inserts in our house.  
They worked
very well, had secondary burn chambers and no catalysts to foul, and would damp 
down
for an overnight burn.  But, as inserts, they have (and need) fans in order to 
actually heat.

Then the company got bought and the EPA got even uglier.  When I went to look 
at a
free-standing stove for our new addition they were much more cheaply made, and 
wouldn't
damp down at all.  I was Not Impressed, particularly with the damping lever 
(which they
still had) that wasn't actually connected to anything.

I ended up with a Lopi, bought in Idaho, instead.  It works well, but dirties 
the glass almost
immediately if damped down.  (Unlike the neighbors' Lopi, although theirs is 
oriented deep
vs our wide.)

I dislike the triple-wall pipe, because I think that eliminates a lot of the 
heat that would get
into the room.  Fine for going through the roof, but I'd prefer single-wall 
in-room going to
a 3-wall at the ceiling.

Our Lopi is attractive but doesn't heat as well as the stoves of yore I 
remember.  I suspect
that it really needs a fan in order to make up for its cosmetic and safety 
features.  But, even
without the fan it does heat and we're very happy to have it.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood stove

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

There was a scheme a coupla years ago to build a pellet plant around 
here to utilize the trees that couldn't go to the pulp plant or 
sawmills.  A good part of SC is in managed pine forests so there is a 
large supply of timber for whatever uses.  Most of it was going to be 
shipped to europe it seems, and that pissed off a lot of people who 
opposed it.  Lot of drying involved too, utilizes burning waste I think, 
but that is not environmentally-sound to some extent. I don't think it 
ever got built, might have been covids influenced that too.


--FT

On 8/27/22 11:10 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

They require less attention than a traditional woodstove and utilize waste 
products of lumbermills.

Two comments: 1) They require power to operate, so one major use of such a 
stove,
heat when the power is out, is compromised.  (Some can use a backup deep-cycle
battery to operate for some hours, or you can put them on a UPS with big 
batteries.)
And 2) they ran out of 'waste' sawdust some time ago, and now grind up trees 
for the
fuel too.  The price of pellets has risen to be somewhat on parity with other 
fuels.

Which is not to say that they're not worth having, but they're not a gimme.  
One of these
is the primary heat at our beach cabin, but I don't have one here.  Heat with 
power off
was a major consideration, post-ice-storm, and I have 20 acres of trees.  Lots 
of
beetle kill, wind takedowns, etc.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Tracing electrical wiring

[MG via Mercedes]

Do it the old way?

Turn on all the lights and plug a light into every
outlet then leave it on and turn all the other
breakers off and them look for what still works.

Or turn it off and all the others on and see what
doesn't work.

MG

Craig via Mercedes wrote:

In looking at the breaker box in the building here for possible
installation of a 30 A breaker, I found there already is one installed.
The wires which connect to it go up to the top of the breaker box and
disappear into a thimble which connects to a piece of conduit (I think)
which goes I know not where.

I want to find out where the wires which connect to the 30 A breaker go.

The breaker chart inside the door is of no help, because those spaces are
marked "spare".

Any suggestions on how to find out where in this 10,000 ft^2 commercial
building they do go?

Thank you,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I was wondering if you could title wash through the Vermont process.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:18:58 AM EDT, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
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If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, 
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA 
releases the title/registration?

--FT

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Not for me, Angie had it in April. I tested negative at that time just as she 
is testing negative now. 

I think you're right though, Angie's cousin has had it 5 or 6 times. I suspect 
what I've got is the omicron variant, highly transmissible, not so bad to get 
through. Other than a sore throat and lost voice I feel no so bad today. 
Interestingly I feel better after I eat.

I didn't drink any coffee yesterday, didn't feel like it would do me any good 
when all I wanted to do was sleep. I had one cup of cold brew today and my 
headache is nearly gone. I wonder if part of my headache was caffeine 
withdrawal.

-Curt


On Saturday, August 27, 2022 at 11:16:45 AM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis 
 wrote: 


Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.

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> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> 
> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
> croak...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...
> 
> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> 
>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> 
> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> 
> Get well.
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

If an out-of-state buyer gets it can it be registered in another state, 
or can that not happen until the new owner pays the usury and CA 
releases the title/registration?


--FT

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Re: [MBZ] Tracing electrical wiring

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

If the circuit squealer doesn't work (you should have one anyway), maybe
a metal-detector will?  'Gold-hunt' your way to the end of the conduit?  Won't
work if there's other conduit at the start point, unless you can open the wall
enough to find out where it starts to go.  Or if your building has metal studs.

But, what kind of load needs a 30A 220V (?) feed?  Do some head-scratching 
first?

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

Isn’t this the second time in 4-5 months? If so, relatively recent  previous 
infection doesn’t seem to confer significant protection from re-infection.

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> On Aug 27, 2022, at 10:59 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
>> 
>>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>>> came down with it...
> 
>> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.
> 
> I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of 
> croak...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...
> 
> I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...
> 
> 
>> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> 
> That speaks volumes about your dedication.
> 
> Get well.
> 
> 
> Craig
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Wood stove

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> They require less attention than a traditional woodstove and utilize waste 
> products of lumbermills.

Two comments: 1) They require power to operate, so one major use of such a 
stove,
heat when the power is out, is compromised.  (Some can use a backup deep-cycle
battery to operate for some hours, or you can put them on a UPS with big 
batteries.)
And 2) they ran out of 'waste' sawdust some time ago, and now grind up trees 
for the
fuel too.  The price of pellets has risen to be somewhat on parity with other 
fuels.

Which is not to say that they're not worth having, but they're not a gimme.  
One of these
is the primary heat at our beach cabin, but I don't have one here.  Heat with 
power off
was a major consideration, post-ice-storm, and I have 20 acres of trees.  Lots 
of
beetle kill, wind takedowns, etc.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] COVID

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>> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
>> came down with it...

>I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...

Sorry, that was sarcasm. I wouldn't wish this on anybody.

I feel much better today but my voice has gone, all I can do is sort of croak...

-Curt

On Friday, August 26, 2022 at 10:44:14 PM EDT, Craig via Mercedes 
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On Sat, 27 Aug 2022 00:55:49 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
 wrote:

> After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came down with it...

I'm not sure it's something about which to be excited ...


> It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...

That speaks volumes about your dedication.

Get well.


Craig

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[MBZ] Damn CA "Sitting in a Garage" Back Payments to DMV

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[MBZ] 1998 E320 Wagon

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Not ridiculous by today’s standards. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/473748664225578/ AZBob Sent from Mail for Windows 

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Re: [MBZ] COVID

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Best guess is from a wedding last weekend but a guy at my gym has it too so I 
might have gotten it from him.
Curt

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  On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 10:16 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via 
Mercedes wrote:   Curt, any idea how you contacted 
covid?  IIRC you are vaccinated but not
boosted, correct?

On Fri, Aug 26, 2022 at 9:49 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> take care Curt.
>
> On Fri, Aug 26, 2022, 8:56 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > After our talk about COVID the other day imagine my excitement when I
> came
> > down with it...
> >
> > I've been working 8pm to 1am teaching Australian students, Wednesday
> night
> > I had a little tickle in my throat during class. Thursday morning I felt
> > really run down which I attributed to not sleeping enough. This morning I
> > felt like I'd been hit by a truck. Searing headache, sore throat, no
> > energy, kinda dizzy.
> >
> > Feeling a bit better now, my sinuses are draining some which helps the
> > headache but is giving me a cough. I figure I'll be over it in a few days
> > but I did cancel class for next week. I'd probably be okay but staying up
> > late isn't going to help me get better.
> >
> > It's only the 3rd class I've canceled in 16 years...
> >
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