[MBZ] Gas convection

[RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes]

Folks

We have a yellow 24 inch wide Viking gas range with gas convection oven 

It’s probably 15 years old and I bought it for $100 from the scrap metal guy … 
he picked it up on tybee and it was already setup for propane … .I’ve replaced 
an igniter with a Chinese one

I think all the convection is is a fan … you can turn convection on or off with 
a switch

Xx rick

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Re: [MBZ] Don’t waste my time nor yours - 2005 E500 - 56k miles - $11,000

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Either or, neither nor. 



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> On Oct 26, 2022, at 8:12 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
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> Should have no trouble selling it with those low miles.
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, 11:09 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>> Ambitious but glwts
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Re: [MBZ] Don’t waste my time nor yours - 2005 E500 - 56k miles - $11,000

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Should have no trouble selling it with those low miles.

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Re: [MBZ] Don’t waste my time nor yours - 2005 E500 - 56k miles - $11,000

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Ambitious but glwts

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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes]

I built a big new kitchen and put in a gas cooktop with a grill section. I use 
the grill frequently. Also requires a powerful vent hood. I wouldn’t use 
anything but gas, nothing else provides the control. The cooktop has regular, 
extra hot, and a simmer burners all of which I use. 

I don’t know anything about induction cookers but you can buy a single “burner” 
countertop unit to try before committing. They don’t cost much and plug into a 
20A outlet. I have thought about getting one just to try it but it is not a 
particularly compelling thought. 

I put in dual Dacor convection ovens (floor model from an appliance store that 
was closing, great price) and like the convection bake. 

Don’t forget a microwave oven (some regular ovens also do microwave, 
particularly those little ones with a big oven). And I highly recommend a 
little countertop “toaster” oven that also has convection bake and air fryer 
functions. I use it a lot rather than the big ovens. The air fryer is amazing. 

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> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
> and remove heavy pots, etc.
> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> it.
> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
> cooktops.
> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> options?
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
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> Von Braun
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> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
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[MBZ] Don’t waste my time nor yours - 2005 E500 - 56k miles - $11,000

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Yes, this is why I like cooking with gas. You can go from full heat to zero or 
anywhere in between, instantly. I guess induction would have that property 
also, but I've never used it.

Allan

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, at 19:59, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
> I have a glass cooktop range. I don’t care for cooking but I’ve always 
> heard that gas was far more pleasant to cook on. Kari recently got a 
> nice Thermador gas range for her place and let me tell you, the 
> difference is vast. With gas you have complete control. You turn up or 
> down the flame and the result is immediate. With electric it’s not so 
> stuff burns if you’re not careful. I often have to take pans of the 
> burner in order to achieve the immediate reduction in heat.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
>> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
>> and remove heavy pots, etc.
>> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
>> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
>> it.
>> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
>> cooktops.
>> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
>> options?
>> 
>> -- 
>> OK Don
>> 
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>> 
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>> 
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] New Mrs. Kleb Car

[G Mann via Mercedes]

Like all 40 ft luxury yachts, and all luxury 40 ft motor homes, if you have
to ask the price, you can't afford it.
Questions: If you sink it in the lake, will AAA come tow you out? What
insurance company would insure it, at any cost rating? Last, but not least,
where do you get it serviced that will properly service both the motor
coach items and the boat yacht items?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:01 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> I got queasy watching the bus head into the lake.  Wonder what it costs.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:49 PM mitch--- via Mercedes <
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

I would think cast iron would be. Induction is magnetic, and iron does well 
there. You might need to sand the bottoms smooth if they are rough, to avoid 
scratching the surface.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, at 19:46, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> Beats me. I looked into this fleetingly some years back but have never 
> revisited it.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 8:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Most of our pots and pans are not induction friendly either. I wonder
>> whether cast iron, specifically the Le Creuset stuff works with induction?
>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 6:46 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots and
>>> pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but having to
>>> re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased
>>> about it.
>>> 
>>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via
>>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
>>> use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
>>> have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>>> 
>>> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
>>> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
>>> dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in
>>> comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
>>> don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
>>> feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
>>> it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
>>> 
>>> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
>>> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven
>>> except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
>>> group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
>>> 
>>> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
>>> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe.
>>> It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
>>> turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
>>> temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>>> 
>>> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
>>> been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
>>> and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
>>> them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far
>>> easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
>>> induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
>>> specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
>>> collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would have
>>> been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
>>> 
>>> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
>>> a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
>>> Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
>>> more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
>>> Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
>>> 
>>> That’s my take on the subjects.
>>> 
>>> -D
>>> 
 On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes >> > wrote:
 
 Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
>>> oven
 glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
>>> put
 and remove heavy pots, etc.
 She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
 skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
 it.
 In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
>>> induction
 cooktops.
 Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
 options?
 
 --
 OK Don
 
 "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
 are wearing."
 
 "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
 pause and reflect." Mark Twain
 
 “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>>> Wernher
 Von Braun
 2013 F150, 18 mpg
 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Personally, I would only consider gas for a cooktop. If I were limited to a 
range, it would be gas but I'm not sure I've ever seen or heard of a gas 
convection oven.

I have had the glass tops before, and they are the best at being easy to clean. 
Otherwise I didn't care for them.

It's pretty much just down to what the primary chef in the house likes. There's 
not really a wrong answer unless you get something you know she doesn't want.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, at 18:45, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots 
> and pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but 
> having to re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:
>
>
> My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased about 
> it.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We 
> rarely use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a 
> PITA to have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>
> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in 
> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with 
> multiple dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great 
> thing. However, in comparison to traditional cooking after using both 
> for several decades, I don’t see a lot of value in convection 
> baking/broiling. It would not be a feature I would go looking for, but 
> when looking at ovens a few years ago it seemed that nearly all of them 
> offered it.
>
> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small 
> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower 
> oven except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a 
> large group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a 
> convection oven.
>
> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a 
> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature 
> probe. It’s not something you use often, but with things like large 
> roasts or turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things 
> to the proper temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>
> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but 
> we’ve been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy 
> to clean and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of 
> dish/pan/skillet on them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re 
> quick to heat up and far easier to control the heat than a gas range, 
> in my opinion. As far as induction, we looked at it several times but 
> the requirement for specialized cookware for optimum performance put us 
> off. I have a large collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum 
> cookware that would have been rendered useless with an induction 
> cooktop.
>
> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house 
> is a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are 
> electric. Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but 
> part of that is more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the 
> range operation. Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a 
> number of reasons.
>
> That’s my take on the subjects.
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
>> mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
>> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
>> and remove heavy pots, etc.
>> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
>> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
>> it.
>> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
>> cooktops.
>> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
>> options?
>>
>> --
>> OK Don
>>
>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>> are wearing."
>>
>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>
>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  
>> Wernher
>> Von Braun
>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] In These Times, Thus Isn’t Too Stupid I Suppose

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To some it is

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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes]

I have a glass cooktop range. I don’t care for cooking but I’ve always heard 
that gas was far more pleasant to cook on. Kari recently got a nice Thermador 
gas range for her place and let me tell you, the difference is vast. With gas 
you have complete control. You turn up or down the flame and the result is 
immediate. With electric it’s not so stuff burns if you’re not careful. I often 
have to take pans of the burner in order to achieve the immediate reduction in 
heat.

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> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:53 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
> and remove heavy pots, etc.
> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> it.
> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
> cooktops.
> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> options?
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

Nope.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 8:34 PM OK Don via Mercedes 
wrote:

> Most of our pots and pans are not induction friendly either. I wonder
> whether cast iron, specifically the Le Creuset stuff works with induction?
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 6:46 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> > I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots
> and
> > pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but having to
> > re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
> >
> > On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> > wrote:
> >
> > 
> > My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased
> > about it.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via
> > Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
> > use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
> > have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
> >
> > We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
> > consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
> > dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However,
> in
> > comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
> > don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
> > feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
> > it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
> >
> > We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
> > upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower
> oven
> > except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
> > group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
> >
> > If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
> > large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature
> probe.
> > It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
> > turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
> > temperature and not having to open the oven door.
> >
> > I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
> > been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
> > and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
> > them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and
> far
> > easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
> > induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
> > specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
> > collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would
> have
> > been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
> >
> > I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
> > a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
> > Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
> > more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
> > Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
> >
> > That’s my take on the subjects.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > > On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes <
> Mercedes@okiebenz.com
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
> > oven
> > > glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
> > put
> > > and remove heavy pots, etc.
> > > She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> > > skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter
> beside
> > > it.
> > > In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
> > induction
> > > cooktops.
> > > Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> > > options?
> > >
> > > --
> > > OK Don
> > >
> > > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing
> you
> > > are wearing."
> > >
> > > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> > >
> > > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> > Wernher
> > > Von Braun
> > > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Beats me. I looked into this fleetingly some years back but have never 
revisited it.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 8:34 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Most of our pots and pans are not induction friendly either. I wonder
> whether cast iron, specifically the Le Creuset stuff works with induction?
> 
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 6:46 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots and
>> pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but having to
>> re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad
>> 
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased
>> about it.
>> 
>> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via
>> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
>> use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
>> have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>> 
>> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
>> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
>> dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in
>> comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
>> don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
>> feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
>> it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
>> 
>> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
>> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven
>> except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
>> group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
>> 
>> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
>> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe.
>> It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
>> turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
>> temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>> 
>> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
>> been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
>> and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
>> them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far
>> easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
>> induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
>> specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
>> collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would have
>> been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
>> 
>> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
>> a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
>> Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
>> more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
>> Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
>> 
>> That’s my take on the subjects.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes > > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
>> oven
>>> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
>> put
>>> and remove heavy pots, etc.
>>> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
>>> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
>>> it.
>>> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
>> induction
>>> cooktops.
>>> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
>>> options?
>>> 
>>> --
>>> OK Don
>>> 
>>> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
>>> are wearing."
>>> 
>>> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
>>> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>>> 
>>> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
>> Wernher
>>> Von Braun
>>> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
>>> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
>>> ___
>>> http://www.okiebenz.com
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Most of our pots and pans are not induction friendly either. I wonder
whether cast iron, specifically the Le Creuset stuff works with induction?

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 6:46 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots and
> pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but having to
> re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.
>
> -D
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel 
> wrote:
>
> 
> My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased
> about it.
>
> On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
> use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
> have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>
> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
> dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in
> comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
> don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
> feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
> it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
>
> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven
> except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
> group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
>
> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe.
> It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
> turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
> temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>
> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
> been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
> and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
> them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far
> easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
> induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
> specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
> collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would have
> been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
>
> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
> a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
> Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
> more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
> Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
>
> That’s my take on the subjects.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  > wrote:
> >
> > Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
> oven
> > glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
> put
> > and remove heavy pots, etc.
> > She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> > skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> > it.
> > In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
> induction
> > cooktops.
> > Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> > options?
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> > are wearing."
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
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> >
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> >
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Re: [MBZ] New Mrs. Kleb Car

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

I got queasy watching the bus head into the lake.  Wonder what it costs.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:49 PM mitch--- via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za63ltkMGGE
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Bunny slope.

But yes, those times of the year it’s nice. Watch out for the mosquitos, though!

-D

Sent from my iPad

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:38 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> The UP is beautiful in the summer and fall. Mid January, probably not so 
> much. Unless one likes to ski.
> 
> https://www.mtbohemia.com/
> 
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I can see that, but again, I wanted to be able to use my existing pots and 
pans. I’ve heard positive things about induction cooktops, but having to 
re-provision a kitchen is a dealbreaker for me.

-D

Sent from my iPad

On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel  wrote:


My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased about it.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely use 
the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to have to 
get down there to take stuff in and out.

We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in consumer 
ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple dishes, or time 
is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in comparison to 
traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I don’t see a lot of 
value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a feature I would go 
looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago it seemed that nearly 
all of them offered it.

We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small upper 
oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven except 
when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large group of 
people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.

If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a large 
oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe. It’s not 
something you use often, but with things like large roasts or turkeys it saves 
a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper temperature and not 
having to open the oven door.

I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve been 
big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean and 
maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on them. 
Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far easier to 
control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as induction, we 
looked at it several times but the requirement for specialized cookware for 
optimum performance put us off. I have a large collection of Magnalite 
professional cast aluminum cookware that would have been rendered useless with 
an induction cooktop.

I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is a 
hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric. Weird. 
I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is more an 
issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation. Boiling water at 
7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.

That’s my take on the subjects.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> mailto:Mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
> and remove heavy pots, etc.
> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> it.
> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
> cooktops.
> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> options?
>
> --
> OK Don
>
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
>
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
>
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> ___
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>
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>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Rick Knoble via Mercedes]

The UP is beautiful in the summer and fall. Mid January, probably not so much. 
Unless one likes to ski.

https://www.mtbohemia.com/


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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Thanks, Dan.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 4:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
> use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
> have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>
> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
> dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in
> comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
> don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
> feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
> it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
>
> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven
> except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
> group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
>
> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe.
> It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
> turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
> temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>
> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
> been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
> and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
> them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far
> easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
> induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
> specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
> collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would have
> been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
>
> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
> a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
> Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
> more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
> Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
>
> That’s my take on the subjects.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
> oven
> > glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
> put
> > and remove heavy pots, etc.
> > She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> > skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> > it.
> > In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
> induction
> > cooktops.
> > Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> > options?
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> > are wearing."
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
> > ___
> > http://www.okiebenz.com
> >
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> >
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are wearing."

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes]

My brother switched from gas to induction and couldn't be more pleased
about it.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 5:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely
> use the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to
> have to get down there to take stuff in and out.
>
> We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in
> consumer ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple
> dishes, or time is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in
> comparison to traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I
> don’t see a lot of value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a
> feature I would go looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago
> it seemed that nearly all of them offered it.
>
> We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small
> upper oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven
> except when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large
> group of people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.
>
> If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a
> large oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe.
> It’s not something you use often, but with things like large roasts or
> turkeys it saves a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper
> temperature and not having to open the oven door.
>
> I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve
> been big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean
> and maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on
> them. Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far
> easier to control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as
> induction, we looked at it several times but the requirement for
> specialized cookware for optimum performance put us off. I have a large
> collection of Magnalite professional cast aluminum cookware that would have
> been rendered useless with an induction cooktop.
>
> I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is
> a hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric.
> Weird. I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is
> more an issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation.
> Boiling water at 7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.
>
> That’s my take on the subjects.
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >
> > Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual
> oven
> > glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to
> put
> > and remove heavy pots, etc.
> > She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> > skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> > it.
> > In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are
> induction
> > cooktops.
> > Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> > options?
> >
> > --
> > OK Don
> >
> > "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> > are wearing."
> >
> > "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> > pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> >
> > “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”
> Wernher
> > Von Braun
> > 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> > 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> > 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Did you resolve the issue with the transmission tunnel?

It appears to be that the (used) replacement axle is not engaging.
I need another session to diagnose further.  But, the weather has
changed here.  Wet and nasty outside.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] New Mrs. Kleb Car

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

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Re: [MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I like her thinking as far as having things at a decent height. We rarely use 
the lower oven on our dual oven range, but when we do it’s a PITA to have to 
get down there to take stuff in and out.

We were big proponents of convection ovens before they were common in consumer 
ovens/ranges. If you’re cooking for a large group with multiple dishes, or time 
is of the essence, convection is a great thing. However, in comparison to 
traditional cooking after using both for several decades, I don’t see a lot of 
value in convection baking/broiling. It would not be a feature I would go 
looking for, but when looking at ovens a few years ago it seemed that nearly 
all of them offered it.

We have a Maytag electric range/oven in the FL house that has a small upper 
oven and a large lower convection oven. We rarely use the lower oven except 
when entertaining or on holidays when we’re cooking for a large group of 
people. Even then, it’s not typically used as a convection oven.

If I was looking for a wall oven, I would want a similar setup with a large 
oven and a smaller one. One feature I do like is a temperature probe. It’s not 
something you use often, but with things like large roasts or turkeys it saves 
a lot of time and effort in cooking things to the proper temperature and not 
having to open the oven door.

I know this is somewhat of a polarizing topic, like motor oil, but we’ve been 
big fans of electric glass cooktops for years. They’re easy to clean and 
maintain, and you can use just about any sort of dish/pan/skillet on them. 
Modern technology being what it is, they’re quick to heat up and far easier to 
control the heat than a gas range, in my opinion. As far as induction, we 
looked at it several times but the requirement for specialized cookware for 
optimum performance put us off. I have a large collection of Magnalite 
professional cast aluminum cookware that would have been rendered useless with 
an induction cooktop.

I would mention that the stove/range/oven setup in our Flagstaff house is a 
hybrid sort of GE Profile. The range is gas and the ovens are electric. Weird. 
I do not enjoy cooking on the gas range there, but part of that is more an 
issue of dealing with the altitude than the range operation. Boiling water at 
7,000’ can be a real pain for a number of reasons.

That’s my take on the subjects.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 4:52 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
> glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
> and remove heavy pots, etc.
> She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
> skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
> it.
> In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
> cooktops.
> Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
> options?
> 
> -- 
> OK Don
> 
> "Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
> are wearing."
> 
> "Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
> pause and reflect." Mark Twain
> 
> “Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
> Von Braun
> 2013 F150, 18 mpg
> 2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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[MBZ] OT - kitchen cooking things recommendations

[OK Don via Mercedes]

Wife wants to re-do the kitchen. SHe currently has a 25+ year old dual oven
glass cooktop range and has decided that the bottom oven is too low to put
and remove heavy pots, etc.
She's thinking of a cabinet level built-in oven - still wants to have a
skinny one and a larger one, and a separate cooktop on the counter beside
it.
In this brave new world, convection ovens are a thing, and so are induction
cooktops.
Does Anyone have experience/recommendation for or against only of these
options?

-- 
OK Don

"Quality of life is inversely proportional to the amount of clothing you
are wearing."

"Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to
pause and reflect." Mark Twain

“Basic research is what I’m doing when I don’t know what I am doing.”  Wernher
Von Braun
2013 F150, 18 mpg
2017 Subaru Legacy, 30 mpg
1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph!
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

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On 2022-10-26 15:24, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

Look up Manistique MI on Google Maps. It gives a new meaning to the
term “remote”, much like the better part of Maine.

The wife told us that after the first snow there was no more driving a
car/truck into town, it was snow machine until the spring thaw. You
wanted/needed something, it was a multi-hour trip on a snowmobile, so
you better want/need it bad. This predated cell phones, too, not that
I expect there would be any service out there anyway.


The kind of place where the ER doctor travels to the patient in a HMMV 
when they can't get an ambulance to them.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Fer sure - I think the 2020 census had a population of about 2,000. The whole 
county is probably 3,000, if that. However, once you get outside of Manistique, 
there is nothing. Literally. Hunting lodges and summer vacation cabins.

I’ve been there and the UP in general is pretty much like northern Maine. Whole 
lotta nothin.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:34 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> It's so nowhere that it's almost somewhere again. 
> Still has 10x the population of Stockholm, ME where my cousin owns the store. 
> When I say the store I mean it's the only store in town.
> 
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:25:42 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Look up Manistique MI on Google Maps. It gives a new meaning to the term 
> “remote”, much like the better part of Maine.
> 
> The wife told us that after the first snow there was no more driving a 
> car/truck into town, it was snow machine until the spring thaw. You 
> wanted/needed something, it was a multi-hour trip on a snowmobile, so you 
> better want/need it bad. This predated cell phones, too, not that I expect 
> there would be any service out there anyway.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> Loads of people from the south moving to northern Maine in the last year or 
>> so because land is so cheap.
>> 
>> My cousin had a tenant that just up and left. Shes from Texas and told him 
>> "It's always so cold here!" That was in August. 
>> 
>> She just got in her car and turned south, left all the stuff in her 
>> apartment. Fortunately her rent was current.
>> 
>> I wonder how the others will fare at -20F or colder.
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:03:54 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I can see that.
>> 
>> Former owner of our first house sold it to fund the purchase of a hunting 
>> lodge 40 miles north of Manistique, somewhere around Steuben. He was going 
>> to live there year ‘round. We heard from the wife’s daughter a few years 
>> later that Mom didn’t care for rural living and had returned to the 
>> flatlands (Indiana).
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:58 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
 I thought that deduction was for Hummers?
>>> 
>>> I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
>>> A HMMV and a Suburban.
>>> Then he added a diesel Excursion.
>>> 
>>> Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
>>> It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da UP, 
>>> and you absolutely must get there, it did the job.
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

It's so nowhere that it's almost somewhere again. 
Still has 10x the population of Stockholm, ME where my cousin owns the store. 
When I say the store I mean it's the only store in town.


-Curt



On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:25:42 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Look up Manistique MI on Google Maps. It gives a new meaning to the term 
“remote”, much like the better part of Maine.

The wife told us that after the first snow there was no more driving a 
car/truck into town, it was snow machine until the spring thaw. You 
wanted/needed something, it was a multi-hour trip on a snowmobile, so you 
better want/need it bad. This predated cell phones, too, not that I expect 
there would be any service out there anyway.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Loads of people from the south moving to northern Maine in the last year or 
> so because land is so cheap.
> 
> My cousin had a tenant that just up and left. Shes from Texas and told him 
> "It's always so cold here!" That was in August. 
> 
> She just got in her car and turned south, left all the stuff in her 
> apartment. Fortunately her rent was current.
> 
> I wonder how the others will fare at -20F or colder.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:03:54 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I can see that.
> 
> Former owner of our first house sold it to fund the purchase of a hunting 
> lodge 40 miles north of Manistique, somewhere around Steuben. He was going to 
> live there year ‘round. We heard from the wife’s daughter a few years later 
> that Mom didn’t care for rural living and had returned to the flatlands 
> (Indiana).
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:58 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I thought that deduction was for Hummers?
>> 
>> I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
>> A HMMV and a Suburban.
>> Then he added a diesel Excursion.
>> 
>> Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
>> It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da UP, 
>> and you absolutely must get there, it did the job.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Look up Manistique MI on Google Maps. It gives a new meaning to the term 
“remote”, much like the better part of Maine.

The wife told us that after the first snow there was no more driving a 
car/truck into town, it was snow machine until the spring thaw. You 
wanted/needed something, it was a multi-hour trip on a snowmobile, so you 
better want/need it bad. This predated cell phones, too, not that I expect 
there would be any service out there anyway.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 3:16 PM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> Loads of people from the south moving to northern Maine in the last year or 
> so because land is so cheap.
> 
> My cousin had a tenant that just up and left. Shes from Texas and told him 
> "It's always so cold here!" That was in August. 
> 
> She just got in her car and turned south, left all the stuff in her 
> apartment. Fortunately her rent was current.
> 
> I wonder how the others will fare at -20F or colder.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:03:54 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I can see that.
> 
> Former owner of our first house sold it to fund the purchase of a hunting 
> lodge 40 miles north of Manistique, somewhere around Steuben. He was going to 
> live there year ‘round. We heard from the wife’s daughter a few years later 
> that Mom didn’t care for rural living and had returned to the flatlands 
> (Indiana).
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:58 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>>> I thought that deduction was for Hummers?
>> 
>> I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
>> A HMMV and a Suburban.
>> Then he added a diesel Excursion.
>> 
>> Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
>> It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da UP, 
>> and you absolutely must get there, it did the job.
>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

On 26/10/2022 1:06 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

My Dodge diesel was a 'stripper'.  Manual windows, seats, locks, mirrors.
It was touted as a 'good work truck'.  Less to break, was my take on it.
So far, so good --- none of these things _has_ broken on my watch!

-- Jim



Did you resolve the issue with the transmission tunnel?

Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

Loads of people from the south moving to northern Maine in the last year or so 
because land is so cheap.

My cousin had a tenant that just up and left. Shes from Texas and told him 
"It's always so cold here!" That was in August. 

She just got in her car and turned south, left all the stuff in her apartment. 
Fortunately her rent was current.

I wonder how the others will fare at -20F or colder.

-Curt




On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 03:03:54 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





I can see that.

Former owner of our first house sold it to fund the purchase of a hunting lodge 
40 miles north of Manistique, somewhere around Steuben. He was going to live 
there year ‘round. We heard from the wife’s daughter a few years later that Mom 
didn’t care for rural living and had returned to the flatlands (Indiana).

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:58 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I thought that deduction was for Hummers?
> 
> I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
> A HMMV and a Suburban.
> Then he added a diesel Excursion.
> 
> Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
> It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da UP, and 
> you absolutely must get there, it did the job.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I can see that.

Former owner of our first house sold it to fund the purchase of a hunting lodge 
40 miles north of Manistique, somewhere around Steuben. He was going to live 
there year ‘round. We heard from the wife’s daughter a few years later that Mom 
didn’t care for rural living and had returned to the flatlands (Indiana).

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:58 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
>> I thought that deduction was for Hummers?
> 
> I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
> A HMMV and a Suburban.
> Then he added a diesel Excursion.
> 
> Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
> It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da UP, and 
> you absolutely must get there, it did the job.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2022-10-26 14:43, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:

I thought that deduction was for Hummers?


I actually had that on a depreciation schedule 20 years ago.
A HMMV and a Suburban.
Then he added a diesel Excursion.

Then the HMMV got sold a couple years later.
It was hardly ever driven, but when you're doing emergency work in Da 
UP, and you absolutely must get there, it did the job.


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[MBZ] 2006 C230 project - 150k miles - $2,900

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

Extra 2 in the price?

"Will need conductor plate for trans"

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/d/schaumburg-2006-mercedes-benz-c230/7550126221.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

I thought that deduction was for Hummers?

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:41 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-10-26 14:05, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> The "work truck" crowd around here seem to have gone up to bro-dozers.
> 
> December of 2020 the farmer across the road from me (60+ years old) got rid 
> of his early 21st Century Ranger (probably traded it in) and started driving 
> a new Raptor. Whenever the dirt road is wet or excessively bumpy, that Raptor 
> goes down the road at 10mph or less, just like the Ranger used to. I figure 
> he must have really wanted a section 179 deduction two years ago.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[mitch--- via Mercedes]

On 2022-10-26 14:05, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

The "work truck" crowd around here seem to have gone up to bro-dozers.


December of 2020 the farmer across the road from me (60+ years old) got 
rid of his early 21st Century Ranger (probably traded it in) and started 
driving a new Raptor. Whenever the dirt road is wet or excessively 
bumpy, that Raptor goes down the road at 10mph or less, just like the 
Ranger used to. I figure he must have really wanted a section 179 
deduction two years ago.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

If I hadn't found the '18 I was considering special ordering. The new trucks 
around here START at $55,000. I could order a RAM 1500 with the v8 for like 
$46k.
In 2014 when I bought our 2010 that truck was $28k...

-Curt




On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 02:01:09 PM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





That was my dilemma when I was looking for a Suburban. Dealers in the city of 
50k people I lived in at the time would only sell the fully loaded Suburbans, 
and pretty much told me to go to Milwaukee to get a stripped down model as they 
didn’t want to mess with ordering one.

Allan - no shortage of limestone where you are, eh? I always know I’m in 
Indiana when I see houses with “Bedford stone” on them...

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 1:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wanted a basic work truck when we bought the F150 - had to special order
> it. Only pimped out trucks on the lots.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

My Dodge diesel was a 'stripper'.  Manual windows, seats, locks, mirrors.
It was touted as a 'good work truck'.  Less to break, was my take on it.
So far, so good --- none of these things _has_ broken on my watch!

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

We also had a truck dealership, they sold medium duty trucks too. Sadly they 
seem to have closed some time back.

The "work truck" crowd around here seem to have gone up to bro-dozers. My 
neighbor had his driveway repaved a couple weeks ago. The contractor had the 
ultimate bro-dozer, big Chevy diesel dually, lifted on big stupid tires. He 
seemed like a nice guy and did nice work but had a really dumb truck.


-Curt



On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 01:53:07 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





We used to have a used car dealer in town that seemed to specialize in work 
trucks. He would have a lot of pickups and vans in white or "state highway crew 
yellow", often with toolboxes, flatbeds, or lift gates.

They closed pre-pandemic, and have not reopened. Their lot is on a corner, and 
they had huge raw blocks of limestone brought in and placed across the lot so 
that people could not cut through to avoid the stoplight. Not sure why they 
cared, but they did.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, at 09:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> When I lived in WI there was a GM stealership in MKE that dealt heavily 
> in fleet and “work” trucks. I went there to buy my Suburban, as I 
> wanted a very basic one - radio/heat/AC and that was about it. 
> Everything at my local dealers was pimped up for the WI station wagon 
> crowd.
>
> I got a good deal on one that was pretty basic - no carpets, rubber 
> mats - but that was fine with me.
>
> I wonder if that’s a viable approach any more if there’s someone in 
> your area that sell that sort of stuff?
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> The vast majority I find are black, white or silver.
>> There are some RAM trucks in a nice red but they're almost always "Bighorn" 
>> or "Laramie". They're way more money and have a big stupid console in the 
>> truck that I don't like.
>> I wanted a Tradesman or Classic, there are basically zero of those for sale 
>> anywhere near me...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:25:30 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road these 
>> days.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on 
>>> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got 
>>> loose in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I 
>>> didn't notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
>>> 
>>> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 
>>> RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is 
>>> that it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again 
>>> more HP and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
>>> 
>>> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as 
>>> you'd expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor 
>>> "updates".
>>> 
>>> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so 
>>> there's a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
>>> 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Good point, but I was ready to put down a deposit, too. Probably not enough for 
it to make a difference to them, though.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 2:04 PM, Jim Cathey  wrote:
> 
>> told me to go to Milwaukee to get a stripped down model as they didn’t want 
>> to mess with ordering one.
> 
> Probably less about the extra work than about the very real chance of a 
> customer backing out of the
> deal and sticking them with a hard-to-move item.
> 
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> told me to go to Milwaukee to get a stripped down model as they didn’t want 
> to mess with ordering one.

Probably less about the extra work than about the very real chance of a 
customer backing out of the
deal and sticking them with a hard-to-move item.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

That was my dilemma when I was looking for a Suburban. Dealers in the city of 
50k people I lived in at the time would only sell the fully loaded Suburbans, 
and pretty much told me to go to Milwaukee to get a stripped down model as they 
didn’t want to mess with ordering one.

Allan - no shortage of limestone where you are, eh? I always know I’m in 
Indiana when I see houses with “Bedford stone” on them...

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 1:55 PM, OK Don via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> I wanted a basic work truck when we bought the F150 - had to special order
> it. Only pimped out trucks on the lots.
> 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[OK Don via Mercedes]

I wanted a basic work truck when we bought the F150 - had to special order
it. Only pimped out trucks on the lots.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 9:40 AM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> When I lived in WI there was a GM stealership in MKE that dealt heavily in
> fleet and “work” trucks. I went there to buy my Suburban, as I wanted a
> very basic one - radio/heat/AC and that was about it. Everything at my
> local dealers was pimped up for the WI station wagon crowd.
>
> I got a good deal on one that was pretty basic - no carpets, rubber mats -
> but that was fine with me.
>
> I wonder if that’s a viable approach any more if there’s someone in your
> area that sell that sort of stuff?
>
> -D
>
> > On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> >
> > The vast majority I find are black, white or silver.
> > There are some RAM trucks in a nice red but they're almost always
> "Bighorn" or "Laramie". They're way more money and have a big stupid
> console in the truck that I don't like.
> > I wanted a Tradesman or Classic, there are basically zero of those for
> sale anywhere near me...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:25:30 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via
> Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road
> these days.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no
> rockers on the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine
> something got loose in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose
> awhile and I didn't notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
> >>
> >> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a
> 2018 RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked
> is that it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half
> again more HP and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
> >>
> >> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as
> you'd expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor
> "updates".
> >>
> >> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so
> there's a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
> >>
> >> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Allan Streib via Mercedes]

We used to have a used car dealer in town that seemed to specialize in work 
trucks. He would have a lot of pickups and vans in white or "state highway crew 
yellow", often with toolboxes, flatbeds, or lift gates.

They closed pre-pandemic, and have not reopened. Their lot is on a corner, and 
they had huge raw blocks of limestone brought in and placed across the lot so 
that people could not cut through to avoid the stoplight. Not sure why they 
cared, but they did.


On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, at 09:40, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> When I lived in WI there was a GM stealership in MKE that dealt heavily 
> in fleet and “work” trucks. I went there to buy my Suburban, as I 
> wanted a very basic one - radio/heat/AC and that was about it. 
> Everything at my local dealers was pimped up for the WI station wagon 
> crowd.
>
> I got a good deal on one that was pretty basic - no carpets, rubber 
> mats - but that was fine with me.
>
> I wonder if that’s a viable approach any more if there’s someone in 
> your area that sell that sort of stuff?
>
> -D
>
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
>> 
>> The vast majority I find are black, white or silver.
>> There are some RAM trucks in a nice red but they're almost always "Bighorn" 
>> or "Laramie". They're way more money and have a big stupid console in the 
>> truck that I don't like.
>> I wanted a Tradesman or Classic, there are basically zero of those for sale 
>> anywhere near me...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:25:30 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road these 
>> days.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on 
>>> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got 
>>> loose in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I 
>>> didn't notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
>>> 
>>> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 
>>> RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is 
>>> that it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again 
>>> more HP and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
>>> 
>>> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as 
>>> you'd expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor 
>>> "updates".
>>> 
>>> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so 
>>> there's a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
>>> 
>>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> The 5.7 in the 2010 were 390/407. Supposedly the v6 will increase mileage by 
> 5mpg, fairly substantial...

5 more would be nice.  For us, as an infrequently-used utility vehicle, the 
mileage is definitely secondary.
Far more important is its ability to sit unused for periods of time, with no 
drama.  The V10 is a
low-tech engine, and it does this well.  It has an excellent reliability 
reputation, so far borne out
during its 4.5 years (!) with us.  (The idle control motor got sticky, so it 
would sometimes die
if you didn't feather the throttle.  That was an easy and cheap fix.)

I can buy a lot of gas for the price difference between this old truck and 
something a lot newer
with better specs.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The 5.7 in the 2010 were 390/407. Supposedly the v6 will increase mileage by 
5mpg, fairly substantial...

-Curt





On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 12:38:24 PM EDT, Jim Cathey 
 wrote: 





> it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP and just a little less 
> torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.

The V10s, last seen in 2003, have 300/450.  I bet you get better mileage than I 
do!

-- Jim


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[MBZ] In These Times, Thus Isn’t Too Stupid I Suppose

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1116426039240392/

AZBob

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Re: [MBZ] Nice

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> You know, https://www.ebay.com/itm/275514551866 does just as well...

Are we sure that this isn't just a badge job?  I thought 6.9 engines
looked noticeably different when you popped the hood.

That rear US bumper looks ludicrous.  But it has a Euro front.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP and just a little less 
> torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.

The V10s, last seen in 2003, have 300/450.  I bet you get better mileage than I 
do!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] The stupid crap at the bank

[Jim Cathey via Mercedes]

> Or you have a “Pesci” as we call it.

Here we just say "you know what they say about the drive-through."
It suffices.  Two lasting quotes from the movie series, and that's
one of them.  Everybody knows the other.

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Re: [MBZ] Wife managed to kill the duramax

[Kevin Kraly via Mercedes]

Attaboy!!

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> On Oct 25, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Took the trailer connector apart on the truck and found the power wire was 
> just slightly melted and fused to the right turn signal wire. Fixed that and 
> all is good. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 24, 2022, at 10:23 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> It was a curt adapter I believe.
>> 
 On 10/24/2022 10:08 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes wrote:
>>> Should not be that easy to plug it in wrong. Or was this some chinese 
>>> bargain amazonian lighting controller?
>>> 
 On Mon, Oct 24, 2022, at 18:14, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
 I figured out what she did.  She managed to plug the adapter in upside
 down which sent the 12 volt acc straight to the ground of the 4 flat on
 the trailer.  It burned that wire all the way to the frame of the
 trailer.  In looking at the adapter, the 4 flat ground is fused to the
 adapter and I can't even unplug it.
 
 I replaced the tail light module, and problem was solved, at first. As I
 was explaining to the wife what she did, which she then turned it back
 to being my fault because I did not tell her how to plug it in, the damn
 lights came back on.  The module has 4 harnesses that plug into it.  I
 started pulling them and replacing, and somehow got them off.  Lights
 were back to working like they should.  The module slides into a bracket
 which them bolts to the frame.  I was going to leave it loose to make
 sure it actually continued to work, but then decided to go ahead and
 mount it as it was working fine.  As soon as I started messing with it,
 the lights came back on and I could not get them back off.  I looked at
 the individual wires coming directly out of the connector on the truck
 and none appeared to be melted.  I guess I will have to take a closer
 look as there has to be something melted within the harness.  I hope it
 did not screw up the new module, or possibly the old module was not
 really bad.
 
 On 10/23/2022 8:11 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I guess on the bright side if she was towing it with the GL and the 
> trailer wiring shorted, it might have fried the rear Sam. It looks like 
> the brake like module in the back that I suspect it fried is only $25 at 
> the flaps.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:07 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Maybe she needs to purchase her own vehicle she will be responsible 
>> for. If she wrecks it or otherwise trashes it she can deal with it.
>> 
>> --FT
>> Sent from iFōn
>> 
>>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 8:02 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Back when we were daily driving 123s she managed to kill some of those 
>>> too.
>>> 
> On 10/23/2022 7:01 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
 You need to get her a 300TD that will be immune to all that nonsense
 
 --FT
 Sent from iFōn
 
>> On Oct 23, 2022, at 7:32 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
> Just from some quick research, it appears there is a body control 
> module that may have gotten fried.  This is great.
> 
>> On 10/23/2022 6:29 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> Since she killed the air suspension on her GL somehow, she had to 
>> take the truck this weekend to haul the enclosed trailer to her 
>> show. When she went to leave, she had somebody hook up the trailer 
>> and plugged it in.  She says a few minutes later she notices smoke 
>> coming from the wiring harness at the trailer.  Somebody taped it up 
>> with duct tape but now she reports right turn signal not working. 
>> She gets home and of course I have to back in the trailer.  I 
>> immediately notice an odd scrapping sound coming from the steering 
>> wheel that has never been there before.  After backing the truck in 
>> I unhook the trailer and of course the ground wire is now bare all 
>> the way to the frame of the trailer. I can tell much else with mess 
>> of duct tape but it somehow managed to short at some point in the 
>> harness.  The wiring where it starts going into the channels back to 
>> the lights look fine so the short must be closer to the connector. 
>> Regardless I am sure I will have to replace the end of the harness. 
>> I was finished messing with it for the moment when I noticed as I 
>> was coming in the house that the brake lights are on even with the 
>> truck turned off.  WTF?  I pull the fuse and the rears go out, but 
>> the top mount one by the cab stays on.  I cant find a fuse that will 
>> shut it off.  I 

Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Good job Curt.

On Wed, Oct 26, 2022, 10:07 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on
> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got
> loose in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I
> didn't notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
>
> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a
> 2018 RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked
> is that it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half
> again more HP and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
>
> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as
> you'd expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor
> "updates".
>
> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so
> there's a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
>
> -Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Randy Bennell via Mercedes]

Looks nice!

Randy



On 26/10/2022 9:06 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on the 
driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got loose in 
the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I didn't notice, 
the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.

So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 RAM 
1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is that it's 
the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP and 
just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.

I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as you'd expect. It's 
basically the same truck I have now with a few minor "updates".

Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so there's a 
little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6

-Curt

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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

When I lived in WI there was a GM stealership in MKE that dealt heavily in 
fleet and “work” trucks. I went there to buy my Suburban, as I wanted a very 
basic one - radio/heat/AC and that was about it. Everything at my local dealers 
was pimped up for the WI station wagon crowd.

I got a good deal on one that was pretty basic - no carpets, rubber mats - but 
that was fine with me.

I wonder if that’s a viable approach any more if there’s someone in your area 
that sell that sort of stuff?

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:32 AM, Curt Raymond  wrote:
> 
> The vast majority I find are black, white or silver.
> There are some RAM trucks in a nice red but they're almost always "Bighorn" 
> or "Laramie". They're way more money and have a big stupid console in the 
> truck that I don't like.
> I wanted a Tradesman or Classic, there are basically zero of those for sale 
> anywhere near me...
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:25:30 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road these 
> days.
> 
> -D
> 
>> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on 
>> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got 
>> loose in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I 
>> didn't notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
>> 
>> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 
>> RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is 
>> that it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again 
>> more HP and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
>> 
>> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as you'd 
>> expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor "updates".
>> 
>> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so 
>> there's a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
>> 
>> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
>> 
>> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

The vast majority I find are black, white or silver.
There are some RAM trucks in a nice red but they're almost always "Bighorn" or 
"Laramie". They're way more money and have a big stupid console in the truck 
that I don't like.
I wanted a Tradesman or Classic, there are basically zero of those for sale 
anywhere near me...

-Curt




On Wednesday, October 26, 2022 at 10:25:30 AM EDT, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road these 
days.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on 
> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got loose 
> in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I didn't 
> notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
> 
> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 
> RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is that 
> it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP 
> and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
> 
> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as you'd 
> expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor "updates".
> 
> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so there's 
> a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Nice. Very understated compared to many late model trucks on the road these 
days.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:07 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on 
> the driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got loose 
> in the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I didn't 
> notice, the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.
> 
> So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 
> RAM 1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is that 
> it's the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP 
> and just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.
> 
> I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as you'd 
> expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor "updates".
> 
> Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so there's 
> a little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...
> 
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6
> 
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] The stupid crap at the bank

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Or you have a “Pesci” as we call it.

Remember the Lethal Weapon movies? The scene where they go through the the 
drive through lane, and Joe Pesci’s character gets the wrong food?

That’s what we call a “Pesci” in my house.

-D

> On Oct 26, 2022, at 10:11 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I generally hate the drive-thru in any form. Last summer I was up at the 
> great northern estate and decided to go to Arby's. It was mid-day and as 
> you'd expect it was packed, drive-thru line out to the street. I went in and 
> got my food before the line moved.
> 
> When I came back out I couldn't actually leave, the line had closed around me 
> and I couldn't get back into it. Fortunately when the line finally moved the 
> car behind me waited and let me out. I was amazed that nobody else was 
> willing to go inside. The next time I do it I'll park better for a speedy 
> exit.
> 
> -Curt
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 02:34:45 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On the rare occasions I need to physically visit my credit union office, I 
> don't use ATMs or drive-thru tellers anymore. Way to much hassle as they are 
> generally broken, malfunctioning, out of cash, or overloaded (one teller 
> handling 4-5 cars at a time).
> 
> I park, walk in, and do my business. Generally back to the car before the 
> drive-thru line has moved.
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 13:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> I was in town so needed to spot by the ATM at my Credit Union to 
>> withdraw $600 for this CD I need to pickup today. This was apparently 
>> above the daily limit for atm transactions so I had to pull back around 
>> to get until the teller lines. As I did, it appeared all the lanes and 
>> atms. Wtf? I put it and it’s a huge monstrosity of a machine that I 
>> guess is both atm and teller. It seems you pick which you want. I pick 
>> teller and woman comes on screen. I make a comment that they are 
>> getting too fancy for their own good. I state I need to make a 
>> withdrawal. Keep in mind I’m in a 210 and this thing is way high up. No 
>> doubt because everyone drives big trucks or SUVs now. I have to reach 
>> way up to enter account number. Then there is a scanner thing way at 
>> the top I have to hold my DL to. She says oh it only takes 20 seconds 
>> or so. This seemed like an eternity by which time I am now pissed off. 
>> I told her soon there would be no need for actually tellers, robots 
>> could do it. After I left I realized she might not even be on site, 
>> could be a centralized call center or something. Hell, this could even 
>> be a 3rd party contractor that saves the credit union from having to 
>> pay and manage their own labor pool. 
>> 
>> On a side note, this is a credit union for teachers and you had to 
>> actually be a teacher or close relative to join. I got my membership 
>> thru my grandmother and you also had to be a teacher in Tulsa county. 
>> They only had 1 location back then. I had a savings account there in 
>> 1984 and later checking etc since 1991. Later they started opening more 
>> branches then expanded it to anyone who was a teacher OR a student. Now 
>> they allow anyone and everyone to join. 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Suspicious email

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

LOL, I was going to ask it if it was any more ridiculous than my actual email 
address.

I have Curtludwig as a user name on MANY websites.

-Curt


On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 05:52:54 PM EDT, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On 25/10/2022 3:49 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes wrote:

> On 2022-10-25 16:18, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> I take it back, the reply email isn't his...
>> Curt
>
> Yeah, the last one I got from Curt had Curt's name and a totally 
> ridiculous email address.

>
>
Do you mean a "ridiculous email" address  like "curtludwig@. . ."?  (No 
smiley face to add, sadly)

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Re: [MBZ] The stupid crap at the bank

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

I generally hate the drive-thru in any form. Last summer I was up at the great 
northern estate and decided to go to Arby's. It was mid-day and as you'd expect 
it was packed, drive-thru line out to the street. I went in and got my food 
before the line moved.

When I came back out I couldn't actually leave, the line had closed around me 
and I couldn't get back into it. Fortunately when the line finally moved the 
car behind me waited and let me out. I was amazed that nobody else was willing 
to go inside. The next time I do it I'll park better for a speedy exit.

-Curt




On Tuesday, October 25, 2022 at 02:34:45 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





On the rare occasions I need to physically visit my credit union office, I 
don't use ATMs or drive-thru tellers anymore. Way to much hassle as they are 
generally broken, malfunctioning, out of cash, or overloaded (one teller 
handling 4-5 cars at a time).

I park, walk in, and do my business. Generally back to the car before the 
drive-thru line has moved.


On Tue, Oct 25, 2022, at 13:25, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> I was in town so needed to spot by the ATM at my Credit Union to 
> withdraw $600 for this CD I need to pickup today. This was apparently 
> above the daily limit for atm transactions so I had to pull back around 
> to get until the teller lines. As I did, it appeared all the lanes and 
> atms. Wtf? I put it and it’s a huge monstrosity of a machine that I 
> guess is both atm and teller. It seems you pick which you want. I pick 
> teller and woman comes on screen. I make a comment that they are 
> getting too fancy for their own good. I state I need to make a 
> withdrawal. Keep in mind I’m in a 210 and this thing is way high up. No 
> doubt because everyone drives big trucks or SUVs now. I have to reach 
> way up to enter account number. Then there is a scanner thing way at 
> the top I have to hold my DL to. She says oh it only takes 20 seconds 
> or so. This seemed like an eternity by which time I am now pissed off. 
> I told her soon there would be no need for actually tellers, robots 
> could do it. After I left I realized she might not even be on site, 
> could be a centralized call center or something. Hell, this could even 
> be a 3rd party contractor that saves the credit union from having to 
> pay and manage their own labor pool. 
>
> On a side note, this is a credit union for teachers and you had to 
> actually be a teacher or close relative to join. I got my membership 
> thru my grandmother and you also had to be a teacher in Tulsa county. 
> They only had 1 location back then. I had a savings account there in 
> 1984 and later checking etc since 1991. Later they started opening more 
> branches then expanded it to anyone who was a teacher OR a student. Now 
> they allow anyone and everyone to join. 
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] Suspicious email

[Craig via Mercedes]

On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 23:56:24 -0400 mitch--- via Mercedes
 wrote:

> No Ludwig.
> The sender was Curt Raymond 
> 

$ host dnr.id
dnr.id has address 103.253.68.212
dnr.id mail is handled by 20 fallbackmx.spamexperts.eu.
dnr.id mail is handled by 10 mx.spamexperts.com.
dnr.id mail is handled by 30 lastmx.spamexperts.net.
[craig@ryzen ~]$ nslookup dnr.id
Server: 216.184.2.2
Address:216.184.2.2#53


Craig

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[MBZ] OT: New Truck day

[Curt Raymond via Mercedes]

My old 2010 RAM 1500 has gotten really rusty, like basically no rockers on the 
driver's side anymore. Then on our last trip to Maine something got loose in 
the steering. Looking at the tires it's been loose awhile and I didn't notice, 
the tires are all worn out on that inside edge.

So anyway I've been looking at trucks for awhile and managed to find a 2018 RAM 
1500 at a price I didn't really gag at. The only thing I disliked is that it's 
the v6. That said it's 305hp/265lb ft torque. That's half again more HP and 
just a little less torque than the 318ci in my '96 Dakota.

I went to the place and drove it, it's fine, buzzy and high revving as you'd 
expect. It's basically the same truck I have now with a few minor "updates".

Today I need to run around and do the paperwork, I bought it in NH so there's a 
little extra. Hoping to take delivery Friday or Saturday...

https://photos.app.goo.gl/EVd1q928irAUeu9b6

-Curt

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[MBZ] Beach car, 39kmi, 1995 Mercedes E320 Cabriolet - $24, 900 (Ormond Beach)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Boring colors but looks nice, price is crazy

https://daytona.craigslist.org/cto/d/ormond-beach-1995-mercedes-e320/7549962517.html

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[MBZ] 2008 Mercedes S550 4 Matic - $5,800 (Rock Hill)

[Floyd Thursby via Mercedes]

Cheepcheep W221, 189kmi, CEL, some red warning light, doesn't look bad

https://charlotte.craigslist.org/cto/d/rock-hill-2008-mercedes-s550-matic/7550105948.html

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Re: [MBZ] Klebomania

[Bob Rentfro via Mercedes]

All the 6.9 needs is its sluslension repaired. Sweet. 

AZBob

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> On Oct 26, 2022, at 5:34 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
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Re: [MBZ] Klebomania

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Dang 

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> On Oct 26, 2022, at 7:30 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Here you go, buddy! Come on down!
> 
> 
> [00M0M_kYmWSjeZtCqz_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
> Old Mercedes for ssle - cars & trucks - by owner - 
> vehicle...
> tampa.craigslist.org
> 
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[MBZ] Klebomania

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Here you go, buddy! Come on down!


[00M0M_kYmWSjeZtCqz_0CI0t2_600x450.jpg]
Old Mercedes for ssle - cars & trucks - by owner - 
vehicle...
tampa.craigslist.org

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Re: [MBZ] Hoovie pedigree

[Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes]

Yea, we have put nearly 40k miles on it since. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:53 PM, mitch--- via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> On 2022-10-25 22:48, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> If it ever goes up for sale, I will push the hell out of it. I know
>> you all are jealous.
> 
> The worst Mercedes made in the last decade?
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NfjZEaY9T7k
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Re: [MBZ] Hoovie pedigree

[dan penoff.com via Mercedes]

Jealous of all the damage that’s been inflicted on it or jealous of the time 
and money you’ve put into it?

-D

> On Oct 25, 2022, at 10:48 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> If it ever goes up for sale, I will push the hell out of it. I know you all 
> are jealous. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Oct 25, 2022, at 9:34 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> He has a utuber vid of selling his cars at the BJ auction. Being from “The 
>> Hoovie Collection” seems to add some value, mostly. Kleb should sell that GL 
>> dizzel from “the Hoovie Collection” and make some money off it with that 
>> pedigree 
>> 
>> --FT
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