Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I've got a variety of liquid fueled torches. I can't remember if this little 
guy burns alcohol or gasoline: https://photos.app.goo.gl/QikswMykEiNpxjT78
I don't know what you'd use it for either but its kind of fun.

This one is a Turner, it burns kerosene: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/9T8EshvpTqLzao6L6
I suppose it'd probably burn gasoline too.
It won't explode I don't think. There is a ring around the pump that has solder 
filled holes, if it gets too hot or too much pressure that ring will blow out. 
Mine must have gotten too hot before I got it, I had to spend a bunch of time 
carefully flowing some new solder into the holes...

Looks more impressive/frightening while preheating: 
https://photos.app.goo.gl/FtcowU7YFjGBGiU98

Sounds pretty good too: https://photos.app.goo.gl/EM9Pq9PJDQ78a7sFA

-Curt


On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:29 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





And no propane torches. Pump-up gasoline torches only. The occasional explosion 
will only make you a manlier man.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 20:56, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> What? You don't braze them?
>
> Randy
>
> On 7/31/2023 7:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with soldered 
>> copper.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite 
>>> fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
 On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 
> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting 
> loose.
 Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I have Aussies in class this week (7pm to midnight), its winter time for them. 
I asked "What does winter in Sydney really mean?" Turns out its low to mid 50s 
for overnight lows. Not unlike our overnight low here...

-Curt




On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:19:01 PM EDT, G Mann via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





AZBOB..
It was only 82F at sunrise this morning in Phoenix... I had to get a parka
to run the Zamboni on the ice in the pool, before the junior hockey league
came over for morning practice.. hahaha..
Nice cool day.. with dry heat... perfect day in Desert Paradise.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:51 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes out
> here. They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays stupid hot
> that the connections get squishy and at the first small system perturbation
> (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose.
> I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy
> assembly in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat weakens a
> correctly assembled system.
> BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
> >
> > Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot
> and I don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or
> soldered connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of
> "handyman" types use them because it saves time and the customer is paying
> for the fitting so they don't care.
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp
> it, done...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
> >>
> >> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water
> >> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet
> >> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting,
> >> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be
> >> dry to cement it.
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[MBZ] 2008 E550 4matic - 171k miles - $4,000

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
"Runs good but CEL is on (camshaft intake solenoid, have part on hand)"

So why not fix it?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Yes, it was beautiful this morning. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:19 PM, G Mann via Mercedes  
> wrote:
> 
> AZBOB..
> It was only 82F at sunrise this morning in Phoenix... I had to get a parka
> to run the Zamboni on the ice in the pool, before the junior hockey league
> came over for morning practice.. hahaha..
> Nice cool day.. with dry heat... perfect day in Desert Paradise.
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:51 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes out
>> here. They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays stupid hot
>> that the connections get squishy and at the first small system perturbation
>> (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose.
>> I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy
>> assembly in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat weakens a
>> correctly assembled system.
>> BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today.
>> 
>> AZBob
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
>>> 
>>> Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot
>> and I don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or
>> soldered connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of
>> "handyman" types use them because it saves time and the customer is paying
>> for the fitting so they don't care.
>>> 
>>> 
 On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
 This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp
>> it, done...
 
 -Curt
 
 On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
 Mercedes  wrote:
 
 
 
 
 
 I really, really, really hate plumbing.
 
 Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water
 off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet
 (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting,
 waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be
 dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
And no propane torches. Pump-up gasoline torches only. The occasional explosion 
will only make you a manlier man.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 20:56, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
> What? You don't braze them?
>
> Randy
>
> On 7/31/2023 7:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:
>> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with soldered 
>> copper.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite 
>>> fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
>>>
 On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
  wrote:

 
> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting 
> loose.
 Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread G Mann via Mercedes
AZBOB..
It was only 82F at sunrise this morning in Phoenix... I had to get a parka
to run the Zamboni on the ice in the pool, before the junior hockey league
came over for morning practice.. hahaha..
Nice cool day.. with dry heat... perfect day in Desert Paradise.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 8:51 AM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes out
> here. They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays stupid hot
> that the connections get squishy and at the first small system perturbation
> (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose.
> I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy
> assembly in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat weakens a
> correctly assembled system.
> BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
> >
> > Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot
> and I don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or
> soldered connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of
> "handyman" types use them because it saves time and the customer is paying
> for the fitting so they don't care.
> >
> >
> >> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
> >> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp
> it, done...
> >>
> >> -Curt
> >>
> >> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
> >> Mercedes  wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
> >>
> >> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water
> >> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet
> >> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting,
> >> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be
> >> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes

What? You don't braze them?

Randy

On 7/31/2023 7:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes wrote:

Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with soldered 
copper.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
 wrote:

I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite 
fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.

-D



On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
wrote:



PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose.

Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
say on Dimitri.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 8:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with
> soldered copper.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite
> fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>>
> >>> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting
> loose.
> >>
> >> Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
> >>
> >> -- Jim
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] 2007 E350 - 78k miles - $9,800

2023-07-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
If it was in decent shape and engine was ok maybe $3800

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> Looks pretty nice in the photos but with the rebuilt title, suspect engine 
> year, and cracked glass that seems way overpriced.
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes
Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with soldered 
copper. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite 
> fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose. 
>> 
>> Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
>> 
>> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Over $40 invested - 1988 560SL - 101k miles - $25,900

2023-07-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
He’s lost is you’re gain

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> Asking $26 grand and TWO photos??
> 
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Re: [MBZ] Seems more appropriate

2023-07-31 Thread Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
That is pretty sad. Maybe some beemer guys would find something attractive in 
that

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[MBZ] Seems more appropriate

2023-07-31 Thread Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/814450500208878/


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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today — Monoblocks on the 400E

2023-07-31 Thread Randy Bennell via Mercedes
If you are not planning to sell the whole car, I would sell those 
wheels. I am old and as such not a great fan of a lot of new things 
including skinny tires on big wheels.


Randy


On 30/07/2023 6:59 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:

I put the monoblocks on the 400 E. I’m not sure what I think about them. 
Looking at the pic they do look pretty good I guess.

For some reason there is a lot of space at the top below the fender but the 
tires are about the same diameter as the ones on the car. The stock wheels are 
6.5x15 ET44 195/65 tires, the monos are 8x17 ET30 245/40. I need to do some 
computation on the fit.  I’m wondering if the springs and shocks (or struts I 
guess) need to compress after jacking it up. Weird.

The guy had 2 15mm spacers with the wheels (he had them on a 210). I had to use 
those on the front to keep the wheels from hitting the break calibers. They 
make the wheels stick out quite a bit beyond the fender. H.

There seems to be with the spacers at least 1/4” of clearance on the front 
caliber so maybe like 7-8mm spacers would work. Maybe I’ll make up some plywood 
test “spacers” to try some different sizes. But the wheels would still stick 
out. The whole size/ET thing is a bit confusing.

It was like 90F today and 150% humidity after rain the last 2 days. And no 
breeze. Fun.




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[MBZ] Over $40 invested - 1988 560SL - 101k miles - $25,900

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Asking $26 grand and TWO photos??

https://chicago.craigslist.org/nch/cto/d/des-plaines-mercedes-convertible-560-sl/7649475107.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite 
fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.

-D


> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes  
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> 
>> 
>> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose. 
> 
> Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
> 
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[MBZ] 2007 E350 - 78k miles - $9,800

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Looks pretty nice in the photos but with the rebuilt title, suspect engine 
year, and cracked glass that seems way overpriced.

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Re: [MBZ] 1982 mercedes benz sl380 was just painted a few days ago $16, 000

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
AKA "I am now way underwater on this project and want a buyer to bail me out"

As you like to say, you could have a picnic on that rear bumper.


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> this car is alot of fun to drive, alot of money was spent on this car
>
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[MBZ] 1982 mercedes benz sl380 was just painted a few days ago $16, 000

2023-07-31 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes



 this car is alot of fun to drive, alot of money was spent on this car

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
The metal fittings the PEX goes over can/will split if there is water in
them and they freeze ...

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023 at 10:58 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I agree in not trusting sharkbite fittings. Sadly it's probably one of
> those things where 99% of the time they work fine but I don't want to be in
> the 1%.
> I MIGHT use one as a "get by" solution. Leaky pipe, don't have time to do
> a proper fix today? Slap on a sharkbite and fix later, but not long term.
>
> A couple years ago I replaced a bunch of the copper pipes in our house
> with new copper. Then last year I did the house up north with PEX, I'll
> never do copper again. Especially after this year I had to cut some of the
> PEX out of the house up north and discovered that I hadn't gotten all of
> the water out. It had frozen and hadn't damaged anything. I'm sold...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:29:28 AM EDT, Allan Streib <
> astr...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
>
> Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot
> and I don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or
> soldered connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of
> "handyman" types use them because it saves time and the customer is paying
> for the fitting so they don't care.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
> > This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it,
> done...
> >
> > -Curt
> >
> > On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via
> > Mercedes  wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I really, really, really hate plumbing.
> >
> > Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water
> > off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet
> > (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting,
> > waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be
> > dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
That sounds like PEX A which is stretched over the fitting and held on with 
another ring of (formerly stretched) PEX. I've wondered if that would be an 
issue. They SAY PEX wants to return to it's original shape but I've wondered.

PEX B gets held on with a metal ring. I used copper because I like the look of 
the copper better than the stainless steel. It's also easier to get the copper 
off if you make a mistake. I'm well aware of my ability to make mistakes...

-Curt

On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:51:06 AM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes 
 wrote: 





Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes out here. 
They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays stupid hot that the 
connections get squishy and at the first small system perturbation (someone 
slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose. 
I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy assembly 
in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat weakens a correctly 
assembled system. 
BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
> 
> Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot and I 
> don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or soldered 
> connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of "handyman" types 
> use them because it saves time and the customer is paying for the fitting so 
> they don't care.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, 
>> done...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
>> 
>> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water 
>> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet 
>> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, 
>> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be 
>> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
PVC pipes get brittle as they age also.

Copper and soldered joints can corrode.

No such thing as "permanent" plumbing at least not for what most people would 
be able to afford.

If PEX is good for domestic hot water (usually hotter than 110F) I would think 
it would be good for warm ambient temps. But probably not forever.


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 10:50, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes 
> out here. They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays 
> stupid hot that the connections get squishy and at the first small 
> system perturbation (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they 
> are letting loose. 
> I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy 
> assembly in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat 
> weakens a correctly assembled system. 
> BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today. 
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
>> 
>> Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot and 
>> I don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or 
>> soldered connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of 
>> "handyman" types use them because it saves time and the customer is paying 
>> for the fitting so they don't care.
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
>>> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, 
>>> done...
>>> 
>>> -Curt
>>> 
>>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
>>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
>>> 
>>> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water 
>>> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet 
>>> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, 
>>> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be 
>>> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
I agree in not trusting sharkbite fittings. Sadly it's probably one of those 
things where 99% of the time they work fine but I don't want to be in the 1%.
I MIGHT use one as a "get by" solution. Leaky pipe, don't have time to do a 
proper fix today? Slap on a sharkbite and fix later, but not long term.

A couple years ago I replaced a bunch of the copper pipes in our house with new 
copper. Then last year I did the house up north with PEX, I'll never do copper 
again. Especially after this year I had to cut some of the PEX out of the house 
up north and discovered that I hadn't gotten all of the water out. It had 
frozen and hadn't damaged anything. I'm sold...

-Curt


On Monday, July 31, 2023 at 11:29:28 AM EDT, Allan Streib  
wrote: 





Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.

Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot and I 
don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or soldered 
connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of "handyman" types use 
them because it saves time and the customer is paying for the fitting so they 
don't care.


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, 
> done...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
>
> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water 
> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet 
> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, 
> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be 
> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose. 

Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Bob Rentfro via Mercedes
Many folks utilized PEX in the spaces below their manufactured homes out here. 
They have learned that when the ambient temperature stays stupid hot that the 
connections get squishy and at the first small system perturbation (someone 
slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting loose. 
I don’t know enough about PEX to know if that would be due to shoddy assembly 
in the first place made worse by the heat or if the heat weakens a correctly 
assembled system. 
BTW…our 31 consecutive days of >110 degrees F will likely end today. 

AZBob

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:30 AM, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
>  wrote:
> 
> Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.
> 
> Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot and I 
> don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or soldered 
> connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of "handyman" types 
> use them because it saves time and the customer is paying for the fitting so 
> they don't care.
> 
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
>> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, 
>> done...
>> 
>> -Curt
>> 
>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes  wrote: 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
>> 
>> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water 
>> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet 
>> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, 
>> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be 
>> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
I remember it being a fad word from the late 1980s or so.

Totally tubular. Gag me with a spoon.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:26, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> wickit pissah
>
> --FT
>
> On 7/31/23 9:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:
>> Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...
>>
>> -Curt
>>
>> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
>> Mercedes  wrote:
>>
>> Who is still calling things "wicked" in 2023??
>>
>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 15:31, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>>> This Cool Benz turns heads Everywhere we go !! Lots of Thumbs up !!
>>>
>>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2017-mercedes-benz-c300/7648614669.html
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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today — Monoblocks on the 400E

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> The difference in tire "thickness" (or height above the wheel) is 127mm v. 
> 98mm which is a bit over an inch -- ~5" v ~4" so not really rubber band tires 
> on the monoblocks.  The tires don't show up well in the pic

All I know is that I'm hoping to move away from the 17" wheels on our W210 to 
the
16" wheels.  Already did that for the snow tires.  There are potholes here, and 
we
live on a gravel (washboard-ey) road.  We NEED sidewalls that do their job!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Allan Streib via Mercedes
Yes if I ever need to re-plumb a house I will be using PEX.

Brother-in-Law is a fan of the "Sharkbite" fittings but they cost a lot and I 
don't really trust them long term compared to a properly cemented or soldered 
connection, their claims notwithstanding. I know a lot of "handyman" types use 
them because it saves time and the customer is paying for the fitting so they 
don't care.


On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, at 08:18, Curt Raymond wrote:
> This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, 
> done...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
> Mercedes  wrote: 
>
>
>
>
>
> I really, really, really hate plumbing.
>
> Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water 
> off, opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet 
> (lowest drain point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, 
> waiting like an hour now and it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be 
> dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread mitch--- via Mercedes

On 2023-07-31 09:17, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...



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[MBZ] Not answering 50 questions over FB messenger. 1962 Mercedes-Benz 220sb, $1, 500

2023-07-31 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
Husband wanted to make it into a cool rat rod with an LS swap. Don’t 
have time anymore.


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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread Dwight Giles via Mercedes
yes. maybe wicked good.

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mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...
>
> -Curt
>
> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> Who is still calling things "wicked" in 2023??
>
> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 15:31, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
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> >
> >
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2017-mercedes-benz-c300/7648614669.html
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today — Monoblocks on the 400E

2023-07-31 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes
The difference in tire "thickness" (or height above the wheel) is 127mm 
v. 98mm which is a bit over an inch -- ~5" v ~4" so not really rubber 
band tires on the monoblocks.  The tires don't show up well in the pic


--FT

On 7/31/23 10:02 AM, Jim Cathey wrote:

I put the monoblocks on the 400 E. I’m not sure what I think about them. 
Looking at the pic they do look pretty good I guess.

Umm, no?  Definitely not to my taste.  I hate rubber-band tires.
Ditto stiletto heels and coke-spoon fingernails, for much the same
reasons.

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Re: [MBZ] Benzing today — Monoblocks on the 400E

2023-07-31 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
> I put the monoblocks on the 400 E. I’m not sure what I think about them. 
> Looking at the pic they do look pretty good I guess. 

Umm, no?  Definitely not to my taste.  I hate rubber-band tires.
Ditto stiletto heels and coke-spoon fingernails, for much the same
reasons.

-- Jim


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[MBZ] Upon acceleration, it bobbles hard-Could be an easy fix. I'm not sure. 2006 Mercedes R350-**Please Read Description**, $1, 725

2023-07-31 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

I doubt it's an easy fix

It has an issue with the air suspension-Its sitting to low

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1331586397769996

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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread dan penoff.com via Mercedes
Accompanied by “awesome”.

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> On Jul 31, 2023, at 9:18 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
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> Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...
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> -Curt
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> On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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> Who is still calling things "wicked" in 2023??
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>> On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 15:31, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
>> This Cool Benz turns heads Everywhere we go !! Lots of Thumbs up !!
>> 
>> https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2017-mercedes-benz-c300/7648614669.html
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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread Floyd Thursby via Mercedes

wickit pissah

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On 7/31/23 9:17 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...

-Curt

On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via 
Mercedes  wrote:

Who is still calling things "wicked" in 2023??

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 15:31, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

This Cool Benz turns heads Everywhere we go !! Lots of Thumbs up !!

https://tampa.craigslist.org/pnl/ctd/d/clearwater-2017-mercedes-benz-c300/7648614669.html

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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
This is in part why I've gone over to PEX, put the fitting in, crimp it, done...

-Curt

On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:44:34 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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I really, really, really hate plumbing.

Need to install a T fitting on a line in the basement. Shut the water off, 
opened the upstairs taps, opened the downstairs outside faucet (lowest drain 
point in the house). Cut the pipe for the fitting, waiting like an hour now and 
it's still dripping. PVC so it needs to be dry to cement it.
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Re: [MBZ] If you dont like Attention, This Wicked Mercedes is not for you !! 2017 Mercedes-Benz C300 ~ Custom 1 of a kind Wrap ~ Turbo ~ On Sale ~ - $15, 990

2023-07-31 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
Wicked is a adjective very often used across New England...

-Curt

On Saturday, July 29, 2023 at 10:37:56 PM EDT, Allan Streib via Mercedes 
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Who is still calling things "wicked" in 2023??

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023, at 15:31, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:
> This Cool Benz turns heads Everywhere we go !! Lots of Thumbs up !!
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