Re: [MBZ] A car for Poos Jr

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

agreed.

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> I still think there is a special place in Hell for those people.
>
> AZBob
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> > On Apr 25, 2024, at 7:19 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Looks like it WAS a pretty nice car until it was molested
> >
> > --FT
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Re: [MBZ] Happy Birthday, Kleb!

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happy Birthday

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> This is my last year in my 40s.
>
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> > On Apr 24, 2024, at 3:40 PM, Allan Streib  wrote:
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> > Happy Birthday!. Are you at the age yet where your birthday cake looks
> like a prairie fire?
> >
> >
> >> On Wed, Apr 24, 2024, at 15:13, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Y’all should take up a collection to buy me an Okie acres yard queen
> >> for my birthday.
> >>
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> >>> It’s Okieboy’s birthday! Happy Birthday, Kleb!
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Re: [MBZ] MBCA

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I belong but don't go to section events. often a banquet not car related.
Dwight

1982 300CD
2005 E320 4matic

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> $85 here or so says the site.
>
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> > On Apr 22, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I have not been involved with them for 20 years. I have thought about
> signing up but not really sure I would participate in any local events. I
> have been told membership is getting ready to be increased to $100 per year.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Apr 22, 2024, at 5:29 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Anyone participate in this group anymore?
> >>
> >> I remember in the late 90s and the early naughts that were, at least
> here in AZ, not really a living group. Membership did afford me a discount
> when I purchased parts at the dealer, one rally-ish journey up the mountain
> once a year, and a Christmas Dinner.
> >>
> >> I wonder if the group is evolving just as MB owners are evolving.
> >>
> >> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Finished paint correction on 09S550

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wow!

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> And it looks amazing. No body dings but a fair number of ditzels from
> gravel etc. I’ll live with it.
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Re: [MBZ] 300CD could be worth the ask -- Diesel Engine 3.0 V6 --1980 Mercedes-Benz 300 e 3.0 Sedan 4D, $2, 800

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shouldn't it be an OM617?

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> He don't no what he got
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1531742804056734
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

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you should be charged with a good pun.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 4:30 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> I watched a utuber vid from this Aussie guy MGUY who has gone on a total
> rant about EVs.  He had one on about the Hertz EVs they were renting,
> and they had to be returned with 90% charge and if not you would get
> charged (see what I did there) for the charge to capacity, kinda like
> the usurious gas refill costs.  Turns out though that Hertz had the
> charge levels capped at 90%, so even if a renter managed to find a
> charge point close to the rental location (and wait a coupla hours to
> charge it) it would only go to 90% so by the time you got back to the
> drop-off it was below 90 and there was a surcharge on the bill.  Nice.
>
> Apparently EV batteries don't like to be charged to 100% constantly, or
> charged to a high level frequently like if you are driving a distance
> and want to recharge but then the car says no you have to wait awhile
> before I will let me be charged up again.  So you're basically f'd if
> you are trying to make any distance in any sort of time comparable to a
> IC vehicle.
>
> --FT
>
> On 4/12/24 2:25 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > I think, like the Tesla owners getting screwed with price drops, that it
> is very karmic.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > On Apr 12, 2024, at 2:20 PM, Dwight Giles
> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > maybe there is justice.
> >
> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com  via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> > And we’re surprised by this?
> >
> >
> > <
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> > [1-718966.png]
> > Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> > mbworld.org<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
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Re: [MBZ] Today's Chuckle

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maybe there is justice.

On Fri, Apr 12, 2024, 1:25 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> And we’re surprised by this?
>
>
> <
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> [1-718966.png]
> Mercedes EQS Reportedly Has Highest Depreciation Rate of Any New Vehicle<
> https://mbworld.org/how-tos/slideshows/mercedes-eqs-reportedly-has-highest-depreciation-rate-of-any-new-vehicle-971484
> >
> mbworld.org<
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Re: [MBZ] Someone needs these Rims,$500

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

On Thu, Apr 11, 2024, 6:44 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> “No one ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the American
> public.” H. L. Mencken
>
> “Nobody ever lost a dollar by underestimating the taste of the American
> public.” P.T. Barnum
>
> On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 6:31 PM G Mann via Mercedes  >
> wrote:
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> > Note to self:  Buy more anti-nausea medication .. Large size..
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Apr 11, 2024 at 3:23 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/744429191179950
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Re: [MBZ] Need a vacuum pump for A/C work?

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good one Fred.藍

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> Malt does more than Milton can to justify God's ways to man.
> Hic.
>
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 7:24 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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>
> > On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 23:19:07 + "dan penoff.com via Mercedes"
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Those are good deals. Nice catch, Craig! Thanks for sharing!
> >
> > You are welcome.
> >
> > I have purchased tools from JB Tools and have found them a good vendor
> > with low prices. For example, if you find a Milton tool on JB Tools'
> > website, it will be less to much less expensive than on the Milton
> > website.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] The eclipse

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we had 90% Here in RI. so cool with the glasses

On Tue, Apr 9, 2024, 1:09 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I'm teaching in Las Vegas, we got maybe 1/3 to 1/2 eclipse here. One of my
> friends had eclipse glasses so we got a pretty good look.
>
> Sadly the great northern estate was right in the path of the totality.
> Wish I'd been able to be there. A bunch of my family went...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Monday, April 8, 2024 at 01:39:40 PM PDT, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I spent the eclipse at Southfork Ranch (for those that remember the
> show).  It was a nice event and cloudy skies to start off. As the eclipse
> started, it was hit and miss with the clouds clearing. Right at the last
> 2-3 minutes to totality, heavy clouds started rolling in. Right at the
> time, nothing to see at all except a dark normal cloud evening. Within
> about 5 minutes after totality, clouds cleared and hardly a cloud in the
> sky.
>
> Here are some pics for you.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Dorman v OEM

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where is Rusty when we need him?

On Thu, Mar 21, 2024, 1:56 PM Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> I’m going to replace the leaking coolant tank on my ML. The clowns at
> Autohaus AZ have them, an OEM MB for $188, but they won’t allow me to pick
> it up, it has to be shipped. $13 and 8-14 days. Dummy boo-boo heads.
>
> Several other places have the MB tanks, but shipping everywhere seems to
> be in the almost two week window and I will need to be able to use this
> before then. Of course the three stealers in Phoenix have them (from Cali
> in two days), two places charging $248, one knucklehead charging $368.
> Charlatans. MB Laredo has one at a good price, but est. delivery April 1.
>
>
>
> Mr. Flaparoonie has a Dorman Coolant Recovery Tank for $81. Does anyone
> have any experience with this Dorman brand? I typically balk at aftermarket
> anything when it come to the cooling system out here in hell. What do y’all
> think?
>
>
>
> And North Scottsdale MB just returned my call saying they have one I can
> come fetch for $329. “I can’t believe they are charging this much for a
> part on an old car. You think it’d be cheap cause they’s wanna git rid of
> it.” Dolt.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Blue Benz antifreeze at El Mercado de Wal

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I have always refused to use any self checkout. comesfrom my union days

On Tue, Mar 19, 2024, 9:48 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I've stopped checking out my own groceries, even if it means I have to
> wait longer. I hate how they record me and treat me like a criminal.
>
> Apparently some places have stopped self checkout because of theft. Whoda
> thunk?
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, March 19, 2024 at 06:26:29 PM EDT, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> I was thinking, as I was in the self check out at the Safeway the other
> day, that we’ve been told if the minimum wage and Arizona goes up to
> whatever it is supposed to go up to, we can expect to see a rise and prices
> to reflect that. Which lead me to think I don’t remember prices going down
> when they got rid of cashiers and I had to start checking out my own
> groceries.
>
> But we all know there is a check valve in the pipeline of rising prices.
>
> AZBob
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> > On Mar 19, 2024, at 3:19 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >
> > I went to El Mercado de Wal to get a battery for my tractor today and
> figured I'd pick up a coupla jugs of antifreeze.  Saw the blue stuff for
> Euro cars was on clearance for $9.50 which was lower than any of the other
> stuff they had, and was $16.63 regular price.  There are some blue versions
> for Asian and Merkun cars too but this one was on clearance.  I grabbed the
> 4 jugs on the shelf, said it was for 2014 and earlier Benzes.
> >
> > Go to the (self) checkout and the jugs rang up normal price so I called
> the attendant woman over and she adjusted the price for me, no questions no
> checking, so I appreciated that.  It got me thinking I could have said
> anything, I don't think she really cared one way or the other.  The lack of
> oversight there I could have walked out with the whole load had I been
> inclined to do so, which is probably not very uncommon.  It wasn't very
> busy there either which was kinda unusual, I hit Costco too and it was
> mobbed for some reason on a early Tuesday afternoon.
> >
> > There is no full strength AF on the shelves any more, you have to buy
> the 50/50 stuff which I guess is more convenient but I kinda like to roll
> my own.  Oh well, progress and an accommodation to the dumbing down of the
> populace.
> >
> > Anyway, it was a good deal.  Costco had M1 oil on sale too but it was
> still quite a bit more than the Costco flavor.
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Risqué Mercedes content

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藍

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 8:30 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> But a 14yo would laugh like I did
>
> https://www.facebook.com/share/r/eEGyHo2LjQ3vbcyW/?mibextid=xCPwDs
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Re: [MBZ] OT The Light Dawns

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But you saw the light.

On Fri, Mar 15, 2024, 8:55 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> We wanted a video doorbell sans WiFi crap etc.
> Bought one and installed it. Tested it and it worked great, except that the
> video was slightly fuzzy.
> Checked all kinds of things, no joy, and so, to bed. Woke up at 02:30 for a
> visit and, sitting there in the dark, had an epiphany! Put on my warmest
> robe, went outside (36deg F) and peeled the verdammt plastic skin off the
> camera lens!
> I grow too soon, old and too late, smart!
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Re: [MBZ] Uhhh, well, Gastonia.... Car Mercedes,$6,500

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w211?

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> Adjust your expectations...
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1824035508018700
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Re: [MBZ] W124 delivery valve leak

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mechanic-IIRC-MERCEDES  dealer

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 6:51 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> Yes I remember you saying. Did you source them or your mechanic?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 27, 2024, at 6:45 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> 
> I changed fuel lines on that to viton
>
> On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 6:04 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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>
>> Actually it’s the number 5 delivery valve….
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Feb 27, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > The 1990 300D 2.5T has a pretty bad leak at the number 4 delivery
>> valve. I use biodiesel extensively during the warmer months so I want to
>> replace the o ring with viton. The ones that Fcp euro and autohausaz sell
>> are not marketed as viton. Does anyone know if they are viton, and if not,
>> where I can get viton?  There is supposedly a McMaster Carr product that
>> works according to some random person who commented on a YouTube video but
>> I don’t know how reliable that source is as the product is simply marketed
>> as an viron O-ring with certain dimensions. It does not specify that it can
>> be used on an OM60X injection pump.
>> >
>> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] W124 delivery valve leak

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I changed fuel lines on that to viton

On Tue, Feb 27, 2024, 6:04 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Actually it’s the number 5 delivery valve….
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Feb 27, 2024, at 6:01 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > The 1990 300D 2.5T has a pretty bad leak at the number 4 delivery
> valve. I use biodiesel extensively during the warmer months so I want to
> replace the o ring with viton. The ones that Fcp euro and autohausaz sell
> are not marketed as viton. Does anyone know if they are viton, and if not,
> where I can get viton?  There is supposedly a McMaster Carr product that
> works according to some random person who commented on a YouTube video but
> I don’t know how reliable that source is as the product is simply marketed
> as an viron O-ring with certain dimensions. It does not specify that it can
> be used on an OM60X injection pump.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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Re: [MBZ] '83 Saab worth more than almost any Mercedes

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no.  i had one in the day

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 11:18 PM Andrew Strasfogel 
wrote:

> Not that there's anything wrong with that.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 11:11 PM Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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>
>> yup and an old McCarthy sticker
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 10:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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>>
>> > Volvo:  the Cambridge Cadillac
>> >
>> > Required:
>> > Save the Whales
>> > Free Tibet
>> > No Nukes
>> >
>> > --FT
>> > Sent from iFōn
>> >
>> > > On Feb 12, 2024, at 10:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Saabs and Peugeots, only in New England. Those and Volvos made
>> "Click &
>> > Clack" some very comfortable men, even before the radio show.
>> > >
>> > > -D
>> > >
>> > >> On Feb 12, 2024, at 7:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
>> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> i used to be a Saab devotee. State of Nine in NH used to have a lot
>> of
>> > >> parts. Also EEuroparts in CT.
>> > >>
>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 1:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
>> > >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I wonder what parts availability is like these days?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, at 13:08, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
>> wrote:
>> > >>>> Holy Swedish meatballs. This Saab is attracting serious bidding
>> > interest.
>> > >>>> Why?
>> > >>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-saab-900-4/
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Re: [MBZ] '83 Saab worth more than almost any Mercedes

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yup and an old McCarthy sticker

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 10:51 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> Volvo:  the Cambridge Cadillac
>
> Required:
> Save the Whales
> Free Tibet
> No Nukes
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 10:35 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Saabs and Peugeots, only in New England. Those and Volvos made "Click &
> Clack" some very comfortable men, even before the radio show.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Feb 12, 2024, at 7:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> i used to be a Saab devotee. State of Nine in NH used to have a lot of
> >> parts. Also EEuroparts in CT.
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 1:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I wonder what parts availability is like these days?
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, at 13:08, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>>> Holy Swedish meatballs. This Saab is attracting serious bidding
> interest.
> >>>> Why?
> >>>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-saab-900-4/
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Re: [MBZ] '83 Saab worth more than almost any Mercedes

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yes click & clack worked on them.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 10:35 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Saabs and Peugeots, only in New England. Those and Volvos made "Click &
> Clack" some very comfortable men, even before the radio show.
>
> -D
>
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 7:38 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > i used to be a Saab devotee. State of Nine in NH used to have a lot of
> > parts. Also EEuroparts in CT.
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 1:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >> I wonder what parts availability is like these days?
> >>
> >> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, at 13:08, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Holy Swedish meatballs. This Saab is attracting serious bidding
> interest.
> >>> Why?
> >>> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-saab-900-4/
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Re: [MBZ] '83 Saab worth more than almost any Mercedes

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i used to be a Saab devotee. State of Nine in NH used to have a lot of
parts. Also EEuroparts in CT.

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 1:18 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> I wonder what parts availability is like these days?
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, at 13:08, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
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> > Why?
> > https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1983-saab-900-4/
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Re: [MBZ] Rodbender?

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which is the rodbender?

On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 6:01 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> No. This is the million mile engine. Only Arnold can bend the rods.
>
> On Mon, Feb 12, 2024, 5:19 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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>
> > 617. Looks like a good deal.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 12, 2024, at 4:02 PM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1383555115882058/
> >
> >
> >
> > Nice color.
> >
> >
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> >
> >
> > Sent from Mail  for
> > Windows
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Re: [MBZ] Gold 18s - 1988 190E - 62k miles - $8,500

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Butt ugly

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>
> https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwi/cto/d/hammond-mercedes-190/7716624364.html
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Re: [MBZ] 240D engines

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that was a southern Car. Georgia & NC

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 3:27 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Did you need a different controller for pencil plugs or could you just
> rewire them?
>
> When I bought Dwight's '78 240D it had been cleverly converted to pencil
> plugs by installing pencil plugs and adding a button on the dash that
> triggered a Ford starter solenoid. Unfortunately whoever had wired it still
> series wired the plugs and with only 10ga wire I don't think the forward
> most one was heating up much. Used to have to hold the button for 30-40
> seconds for good starting.
>
> I made new wires from the relay to each plug, still in 10ga and a heavy,
> iirc 6ga wire from the relay to the battery. After that one melted on the
> exhaust manifold and made an exciting show of sparks I added an inline fuse
> too, well after I replaced the wire.
>
> Went from 30-40 seconds of preheat required to 10-15...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Tuesday, February 6, 2024 at 10:09:23 PM EST, Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, 6 Feb 2024 19:47:28 -0600 Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> > Someone refresh my memory. Difference between a 1980 and a 1982 240D
> > engine. I know the HP increased a little after certain years. When did
> > the switch to pencil glow plugs happen?
>
> IIRC, the middle of 1982.
>
> You can (could) get pencil plugs to replace loop plugs, along with the
> new controller to run them.
>
>
> Craig
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Another win for synthetic oil

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Good call Curt.

On Wed, Feb 7, 2024, 3:36 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> I don't know if you guys remember the ASV snowmobile trail grooming
> machine.
>
> This little fella: https://photos.app.goo.gl/FeHCrBiQsoafrPZD8
>
> It's always been a struggle to get it started when its cold out. Best bet
> has been the block heater but sometimes thats not practical.
>
> Well last fall we had it in the shop for some other repairs and I figured
> we ought to change the oil since I'd never done it and I've been running
> the machine off and on since 2015.
>
> I put in Rotella T6 5w40 synthetic. The engine is a 1996 John Deere 4050T,
> big old 4 cylinder diesel. Deere actually says 0w40 for winter use but
> Deere oil is really expensive and I got 5 gallons of Rotella on sale. Its
> still expensive but when you only change the oil once a decade or so its
> not so bad.
>
> Anyway we haven't had enough snow to groom yet this season but buddy Ben
> used the machine to plow his driveway a couple times with the machine and
> reports that it fires right up, even at 15F, no major struggles.
>
> I had been told "We tried synthetic oil, it didn't help" but I think
> either that was a fib (Go away kid, you bother me) or the oil they tried
> was 15w40 and still pretty darn thick. The cold starting problem has always
> been that the engine cranked slow...
>
> -Curt
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Re: [MBZ] W163 Door Lock Oddness

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one hopes.

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> You'll always be 4min early to your appointments
>
> --FT
>
> On 2/6/24 11:31 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:
> > i have given up resetting the clock in my w211. i just live with 4
> minutes
> > fast.
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Re: [MBZ] W163 Door Lock Oddness

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i have given up resetting the clock in my w211. i just live with 4 minutes
fast.

On Tue, Feb 6, 2024, 11:28 AM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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> I finally figured out how to set the clock on the my W211. The user
> interface for settings is fairly unintuitive in my opinion. I wanted to
> advance the clock by 2 minutes, and it wound forward 12 hours and 2
> minutes. By the time it finished doing that it was a minute off again.
>
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2024, at 10:58, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > You’ll need to reset the power windows and the clock, that’s all. The
> > clock is set using the knob on the right side of the instrument cluster
> > or through DAS or other diagnostic device. For some reason, my 2003
> > ML350 has a bad switch or contacts on that knob, and I can’t set the
> > time with it, so I use one of my handheld testers to change it rather
> > than having to fire up DAS.
> >
> > I’m not sure, but in some COMAND models, you could set the clock
> > through the head unit. I realize you have an aftermarket head unit, but
> > I figured I would toss that out for reference.
> >
> > -D
> >
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Re: [MBZ] TIG welding exhaust pieces.

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keep that w124 300D 2.5t on the road.

On Fri, Feb 2, 2024, 7:38 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> That *and* when they’re not in the car, too!
>
> < grin >
>
> -D
>
> On Feb 2, 2024, at 7:30 PM, Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> TIG welding exhaust pipes is so much nicer than MIG welding. No grinding
> necessary! This is a section of front pipe for the 300D 2.5.
>
> 
>
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[MBZ] Mercedes news

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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 17

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They also have German Day in June

On Mon, Jan 22, 2024, 2:20 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I used to go to those events when I lived up there, always fun. There was
> a guy I met through another acquaintance who had an AC Aceca he would
> bring. A very cool car, very few made. I forget the story of how he
> acquired it, bought it in England I think and imported it somehow, or maybe
> some dealer brought it over. A different model the AC Ace (if I recall) was
> the basis for the first Cobra I think was called the AC Cobra.
>
> But yes lots of cool cars and the days for specific marques was always
> fun.
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> > On Jan 22, 2024, at 1:59 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > That would be great Bob.  While in New
> > England you  might want to visit the Larz Anderson Auto Museum in
> Brookline
> > MA. https://larzanderson.org/
> > Every summer and fall they have a series of Lown Events on Sunday
> > afternoons including Mercedes Day. Last year Mercedes Day was the day
> after
> > the ChowdahQ,making for a full weekend of Star enjoyment.. The 2024
> > schedule is not out  yet for lawn events.
> > Hope to see you then.
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Bissell Cove
> > Wickford RI
> >
> >
> >> On Sun, Jan 21, 2024 at 3:52 PM Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> My plans, here in January, are to make Chowdah Q land in the midst of a
> >> month long drive about. We will see what curveballs the universe has
> for me
> >> this year.
> >>
> >> AZBob
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Jan 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> >>>
> >>> Save the date-September 14, 2024  at Goddard Park, Warwick RI.
> >>> Details to follow.
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Chowdah Q 17

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That would be great Bob.  While in New
England you  might want to visit the Larz Anderson Auto Museum in Brookline
MA. https://larzanderson.org/
Every summer and fall they have a series of Lown Events on Sunday
afternoons including Mercedes Day. Last year Mercedes Day was the day after
the ChowdahQ,making for a full weekend of Star enjoyment.. The 2024
schedule is not out  yet for lawn events.
Hope to see you then.

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> My plans, here in January, are to make Chowdah Q land in the midst of a
> month long drive about. We will see what curveballs the universe has for me
> this year.
>
> AZBob
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 20, 2024, at 4:13 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Save the date-September 14, 2024  at Goddard Park, Warwick RI.
> > Details to follow.
> >
> > Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> > Bissell Cove
> > Wickford RI
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[MBZ] Chowdah Q 17

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Save the date-September 14, 2024  at Goddard Park, Warwick RI.
Details to follow.

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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

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Jay lives in Newport   RI at least part of the year. I saw him in person at
the Concours event two years ago. He works with the  Audrain museum on
events.
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> His YouTube show got picked up by a network, turned into a "real" slickly
> produced piece of crap.
>
> I liked watching Jay talk about a car and then take it for a ride. It was
> fun seeing his real enthusiasm for the car. As soon as it became his job it
> became way less interesting because it was scripted to "appeal to the
> masses". Unfortunately the masses are dumb and the script writers don't
> know anything about cars.
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Friday, January 19, 2024 at 01:45:11 PM EST, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Reminds me that I used to watch his videos but for some reason they
> stopped showing up on my YouTube recommendations. Is he still posting new
> ones?
>
> Has he ever re-covered car seats in denim?
>
> On Fri, Jan 19, 2024, at 13:39, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Two reasons why I wouldn’t buy it, despite liking Jay Leno.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jan 19, 2024, at 11:03 AM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
> >> leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the
> evil
> >> W. walmart
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

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I see the new issue of Linkage magazine has full page ad for Jay Leno's
leather cleaner and leather conditioner. Says it is available at the evil
W. walmart

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> I like the products made by Zymol.  The car polish smells like a floral
> bouquet.  The leather cleaner is very gentle yet effective.  Sold at
> Autozone.
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2024 at 12:12 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>
> > Is Leatherique still around? That was always what I saw mentioned on the
> > list years back.
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, at 11:22, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> > > The seats in my W163 could use some love. They are by no means dry but
> > > they are not supple either. What’s the stuff smart guys use these days
> > > for returning leather to its original awesomeness?
> > > I’m guessing there is something for cleaning then something else for
> > > conditioning?
> > >
> > > Replaced the antenna cover  yesterday while my landlord’s “guys” were
> > > replacing the sewer lateral out to the street. They hope to be done
> > > today. We’ve been displaced for three days thanks to them ripping out
> > > the water service as they began digging (thanks to the water company
> > > not sending out someone to blue stake it, and the guys got impatient).
> > >
> > > I have assembled all of my paint correction supplies and tools, I have
> > > my new steam machine staged and ready and as soon as they install a new
> > > waterline, I’m ready to get busy and go full-Martha on that thing.
> > >
> > > AZBob
> > >
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Re: [MBZ] Leather in the W163

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that is what i have used on leather seats.

On Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 11:39 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
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> > What’s the stuff smart guys use these days for returning leather to its
> original awesomeness?
>
> Leatherique?
>
> -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] 2002 Mercedes, E320 4-matic

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mine (2005  E320)called for 91 but all the 91 pumps disappeared around here
so i use 89 with an occasional tank of 93.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 3:46 PM Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
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> > These take only premium fuel?
>
> You can probably get by with mid grade, maybe regular if you don't drive
> hard all the time.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] 2005 Mercedes E320 - Low Miles - Excellent Condition

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Yes that is what I thought too. I have one of these, only it is a 4matic.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> I believe that’s an M112
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
>
> On Jan 16, 2024, at 11:28 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> 
>
>
> https://phoenix.craigslist.org/evl/cto/d/maricopa-2005-mercedes-e320-low-miles/7707038025.html
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows
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>
>
> Another tidy W211.  Makes me want one again.
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] Battery Conservation Convenience Functions Not Available

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If i recall correctly that message on my w211 was indeed the auxiliary
battery.

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> I get this message intermittently on my W211 dashboard message area.
>
> Starter cranks strong, so battery seems good.
>
> I'm not sure what "Convenience Functions" are not available but everything
> seems to work as normal.
>
> Is this in relation to the "accessory" battery under the hood?
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Okie EVs

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yes that is the oversight of the green movement. also how about the Lithium
in the EV batteries?

On Mon, Jan 8, 2024, 6:24 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> All energy is generated by fossils fuels. How much fossil fuel is used to
> produce wind mills, or the batteries for these busses? Or solar panels?
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jan 8, 2024, at 5:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > A quick Google search suggests that most of the electricity generated
> in OK is by way of fossil fuels so that puts a bit of a damper on the green
> side of electric school buses too.
> >
> > Randy
> >
> >
> >> On 08/01/2024 4:55 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> >> Well done, Craig!
> >>
> >> I would also posit that as a school district and government entity,
> they’re likely not paying anything near $0.20/kWH for their electricity, so
> I would expect that amount to be lower.
> >>
> >> What if we took your numbers and went so far as to suggest that a
> typical bus gets 10 mpg (optimistic) and we’re buying fuel on the spot
> market at prices about 10% below retail pump prices? At those projected
> numbers, you wouldn’t get very far in a diesel bus.
> >>
> >> A fleet operation like this, as others have suggested, is one of the
> best business models for an EV fleet, and I would agree as well. I also
> think that in a fleet like a bus fleet where you’ve got mechanics and
> infrastructure that you’ve got to maintain going to a far simpler setup as
> an EV would cut down significantly on maintenance. Just think of how much
> less you would have to inventory in the way of consumables and common
> parts? On the flip side, you’re going to have to employ some seriously
> skilled labor, so some costs, such as labor, could and probably would go
> up. That would be offset by lower maintenance costs.
> >>
> >> Don’t get me wrong, there are still a LOT of kinks to be worked out in
> the EV world, but it seems like some applications make more sense than
> others, regardless of where the power is coming from.
> >>
> >> -D
> >>
> >>
>  On Jan 8, 2024, at 5:38 PM, Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 20:46:12 + (UTC) Curt Raymond via Mercedes
> >>>  wrote:
> >>>
>  And they all need to be recharged by the time they're put into use
>  again.
> 
>  This is a case where failure is not acceptable, they MUST be recharged
>  in the time allowed so the electricity for them to be recharged MUST
> be
>  available. We're talking batteries in the 250kwh range, if you're
>  discharging them, say, 50% daily and there are 10 busses you're
> talking
>  1250kwh. Figure 14 hours max that you can charge in, you'll need
> 89,000
>  watts per hour or 202a at 440v.
> 
>  Unless my math is bad, which has been known to happen...
> >>> Well, you math is not bad (the actual number is 89286 watts), but the
> >>> phrase "watts per hour" is nonsense.
> >>>
> >>>89.286 kilowatts for 14 hours = 1250.004 kWh
> >>>
> >>> However, you also need to account for inefficiencies in generating the
> >>> charging current (say 95%) and then the overcharging the batteries
> need.
> >>> For nicads in the 1980s, they needed to be charged for 14 to 16 hours
> at
> >>> their C/10 rate, so 40 - 60%. Say the current batteries need 40%
> >>> overcharge, that implies 71.4% efficiencey ( 1 / 1.4 ).
> >>>
> >>> So the overall efficiency from utility AC to battery is going to be
> >>>
> >>>0.95 x 0.714 = 0.6783
> >>>
> >>> So _IF_ the fleet needs 1250 kWh (taking your numbers for it), the
> utility
> >>> will have to supply
> >>>
> >>>  1250
> >>> = 1842.8 kWh
> >>> 0.6783
> >>>
>  OTOH my math suggests charging that fleet isn't going to cost all that
>  much...
> >>>1842.8 kWh x $0.20/kWh = $368.57
> >>>
> >>> With diesel about $3.75/ gallons, this will buy 98.28 gallons.
> >>>
> >>> Now how much all this relates to the real world remains to be seen,
> since
> >>> we don't have good information on
> >>>- How much energy electric buses consume
> >>>- The actual cost of the electricity
> >>>- How much energy (fuel) the diesel buses consume
> >>>- The efficiency of charging and using the batteries
> >>>- The propensity of both types of vehicles to break
> >>>and the cost to repair them
> >>>- Probably something I have forgotten
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Craig
> >>>
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Handicap parking

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i have a handicap parking hang tag but I use it sparingly. i have 2
artificial knees.

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 8:21 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Mrs. Dan has had temporary H stickers due to hip replacement surgeries,
> but we rarely used them. I typically dropped her off and found a space,
> then got the car and picked her up so she didn’t have to walk.
>
> Don’t get me started on people who bring their pets into “regular” stores
> (not pet stores.) Publix finally put their corporate foot down recently
> with signage at the entrances warning people not to bring in an animal
> unless it was a legitimate service animal and clearly identified as such.
> Bringing an animal into a grocery store? Really?
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 29, 2023, at 7:47 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I notice a lot of the users of H spots are morbidly obese or have no
> particular noticeable “handicap.”  I  B won’t go into the demographics.
> >
> > That said, I have a good friend who is in a wheelchair and having ridden
> places with her in her hand-control vehicle, she often has trouble finding
> a H spot. We go inside the restaurant or whatever and there’s no one
> visibly as she is. I do understand the knee issue though having had bad
> knee problems at various times, but she has this robot arm thing that grabs
> her wheelchair and presents it and that needs some space alongside so needs
> the extra width of a H space.
> >
> > --FT
> > Sent from iFōn
> >
> >> On Dec 29, 2023, at 4:26 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Busiest time of the year at stores, last minute panic Xmas shoppers
> last week and gift returns this week. It will calm down after this weekend.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, at 15:57, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> So the wife got a handicap tab because her knees are fubar and she is
> >>> awaiting surgery on them. It arrived Christmas Eve. We have been out
> >>> the last few days running errands and I think we got to use it once.
> >>> Otherwise all spots full. At Wally World right now and they are all
> >>> full. Previous to this, it seems like they were always empty.
> >>>
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

i think my w124 300D with OM 602 turbo was the all around best driving car
i ever had  now Dimitri's car.

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 8:26 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Understood, but that’s a very different kind of driving experience, too.
>
> When I snagged that last W123 300D a few years back I was really
> disappointed in how “crude” the W123 seemed compared to a car like a W210.
> Yeah, I get it, but it’s like once you’ve gone to the big city you can’t go
> back. I just didn’t really enjoy driving it.
>
> Now a W126 I could do for sure, but not a W123. Even today a W126 is still
> like sitting on your living room couch while you go down the road.
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 8:18 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> yes Dan. of course I am partial to my 1982 300CD.
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 8:16 PM dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via
> Mercedes mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
> Well said, Dwight! I feel the same way about Mrs. Dan’s W211. It’s a nice
> car, but it’s pretty soulless. For that matter, so is my ML550 to some
> extent. But it is a very comfortable ride, and I really enjoy driving it,
> which I can’t say about the last 3-4 cars I’ve had. They were good, but not
> great in that way.
>
> That said, I think it’s the price we pay for reliability and ease of
> maintenance. My ML already has 185k on the clock and it works perfectly.
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> i have a w211 2005 E320 4matic sedan. 198k miles. great automobile even
> though it doesn't stir my soul like my 123's & 124. great road car for
> commuting & trips.
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>>> wrote:
>
> I have a 05E320 4m wagon.  Great car.  Check out all the usual things.
> It does have SLS in the rear which so far on my car has not been
> problematic and in any case involves the basic accumulators and struts
> and hydraulic pump.
>
> I can't tell if that has a power lift/close, mine doesn't.  I don't
> think otherwise there is a pressurized strut, might be a big spring or
> something in the hinge area, I have not looked at that.
>
> I think the price is a bit high but maybe market conditions are
> different there and these days too
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/29/23 10:42 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Is the rear suspension problematic? I hope that dowel in the rear
> isn’t for holding up the rear gate.
>
> A wagon isn’t as interesting as that ML55.
>
> I may ask some questions; I got all my chores done yesterday.
>
> AZBob
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> *From: *dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com/> via
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> *Sent: *Friday, December 29, 2023 8:22 AM
> *To: *Okie Benz <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com
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> *Cc: *dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/><http://penoff.com/>  d...@penoff.com<mailto:d...@penoff.com>>
> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic
>
> Same as sedan or SUV owners.
>
> W211 wagons are very nice and pretty rare. This looks like a nice
> example, and the price is reasonable. They don’t last on the market
> long in most cases, so either this one didn’t get the visibility it
> needs, or there’s something wrong with it.
>
> I would go at it like any other. Look it over closely, get as much
> historical info from the owner, drive it, and then assess. There
> aren’t any real issues with W211s. They’re more or less a more modern
> W210 in a manner of speaking, but not terribly complex.
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes
> mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> First time noticing this thanks to FBM.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/864320778693439/
>
> What types of questions do you ask wagon owners if you choose to engage?
>
> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes Dan. of course I am partial to my 1982 300CD.

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 8:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Well said, Dwight! I feel the same way about Mrs. Dan’s W211. It’s a nice
> car, but it’s pretty soulless. For that matter, so is my ML550 to some
> extent. But it is a very comfortable ride, and I really enjoy driving it,
> which I can’t say about the last 3-4 cars I’ve had. They were good, but not
> great in that way.
>
> That said, I think it’s the price we pay for reliability and ease of
> maintenance. My ML already has 185k on the clock and it works perfectly.
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 8:08 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> i have a w211 2005 E320 4matic sedan. 198k miles. great automobile even
> though it doesn't stir my soul like my 123's & 124. great road car for
> commuting & trips.
>
> On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com<mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> I have a 05E320 4m wagon.  Great car.  Check out all the usual things.
> It does have SLS in the rear which so far on my car has not been
> problematic and in any case involves the basic accumulators and struts
> and hydraulic pump.
>
> I can't tell if that has a power lift/close, mine doesn't.  I don't
> think otherwise there is a pressurized strut, might be a big spring or
> something in the hinge area, I have not looked at that.
>
> I think the price is a bit high but maybe market conditions are
> different there and these days too
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/29/23 10:42 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>
> Is the rear suspension problematic? I hope that dowel in the rear
> isn’t for holding up the rear gate.
>
> A wagon isn’t as interesting as that ML55.
>
> I may ask some questions; I got all my chores done yesterday.
>
> AZBob
>
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>
> *From: *dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> via Mercedes  mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> *Sent: *Friday, December 29, 2023 8:22 AM
> *To: *Okie Benz <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> *Cc: *dan penoff.com<http://penoff.com/> <mailto:d...@penoff.com>
> *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic
>
> Same as sedan or SUV owners.
>
> W211 wagons are very nice and pretty rare. This looks like a nice
> example, and the price is reasonable. They don’t last on the market
> long in most cases, so either this one didn’t get the visibility it
> needs, or there’s something wrong with it.
>
> I would go at it like any other. Look it over closely, get as much
> historical info from the owner, drive it, and then assess. There
> aren’t any real issues with W211s. They’re more or less a more modern
> W210 in a manner of speaking, but not terribly complex.
>
> -D
>
> On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> First time noticing this thanks to FBM.
>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/864320778693439/
>
> What types of questions do you ask wagon owners if you choose to engage?
>
> AZBob
>
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Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

i have a w211 2005 E320 4matic sedan. 198k miles. great automobile even
though it doesn't stir my soul like my 123's & 124. great road car for
commuting & trips.

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 11:23 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I have a 05E320 4m wagon.  Great car.  Check out all the usual things.
> It does have SLS in the rear which so far on my car has not been
> problematic and in any case involves the basic accumulators and struts
> and hydraulic pump.
>
> I can't tell if that has a power lift/close, mine doesn't.  I don't
> think otherwise there is a pressurized strut, might be a big spring or
> something in the hinge area, I have not looked at that.
>
> I think the price is a bit high but maybe market conditions are
> different there and these days too
>
> --FT
>
> On 12/29/23 10:42 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
> >
> > Is the rear suspension problematic? I hope that dowel in the rear
> > isn’t for holding up the rear gate.
> >
> > A wagon isn’t as interesting as that ML55.
> >
> > I may ask some questions; I got all my chores done yesterday.
> >
> > AZBob
> >
> > Sent from Mail  for
> > Windows
> >
> > *From: *dan penoff.com via Mercedes 
> > *Sent: *Friday, December 29, 2023 8:22 AM
> > *To: *Okie Benz 
> > *Cc: *dan penoff.com 
> > *Subject: *Re: [MBZ] '05 E320 4Matic
> >
> > Same as sedan or SUV owners.
> >
> > W211 wagons are very nice and pretty rare. This looks like a nice
> > example, and the price is reasonable. They don’t last on the market
> > long in most cases, so either this one didn’t get the visibility it
> > needs, or there’s something wrong with it.
> >
> > I would go at it like any other. Look it over closely, get as much
> > historical info from the owner, drive it, and then assess. There
> > aren’t any real issues with W211s. They’re more or less a more modern
> > W210 in a manner of speaking, but not terribly complex.
> >
> > -D
> >
> > On Dec 29, 2023, at 10:15 AM, Robert Rentfro via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > First time noticing this thanks to FBM.
> >
> > https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/864320778693439/
> >
> > What types of questions do you ask wagon owners if you choose to engage?
> >
> > AZBob
> >
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Re: [MBZ] Handicap parking

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

藍

On Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 4:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Did she get an emotional support emu, too? Tough getting those on planes
> now, I hear.
>
> -D
>
> > On Dec 29, 2023, at 3:57 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > So the wife got a handicap tab because her knees are fubar and she is
> awaiting surgery on them. It arrived Christmas Eve. We have been out the
> last few days running errands and I think we got to use it once. Otherwise
> all spots full. At Wally World right now and they are all full. Previous to
> this, it seems like they were always empty.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: VW Brasilia

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

so are you lusting Curt?

On Thu, Dec 28, 2023, 5:11 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Type IV? Not common anyway.
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/715227570029175/
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Inkjet Printers for Home Use

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

just bought HP office jet 8025 for $149.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023, 2:56 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Mother-in-law asked me to get her an inkjet printer. I see this as a major
> concern, as we probably all know how poorly inkjet printers are when not
> used regularly. But, being that I’m a good son-in-law, I’ll see what I can
> do.
>
> I’m partial to Epson and HP in that order. Epson has been doing inkjet on
> a big scale for decades, as has HP, but I have used professional Epson
> products for a while and as a result, I prefer them.
>
> If you’ve got any direct experience with something that might do the
> trick, please share. I’m looking at sub-$100 stuff to give you some idea.
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

go for it.

On Mon, Dec 25, 2023, 11:52 AM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I’m thinking I ought to go get this thing
>
>  Look at this post on Facebook
> https://www.facebook.com/share/CPfcLscbv5k2bB56/?mibextid=79PoIi
>
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
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> > On Dec 25, 2023, at 11:30 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Merry Christmas.  I’m headed outside to see if y’all sent me any new
> cars for Christmas.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Dec 25, 2023, at 8:28 AM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> From toasty AZ
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Merry Christmas, Friends.

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Merry Christmas from Sunny Semi warm Rhode Island. Local clams and lobster
for christmas dinner.
Dwight
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> And to you and yours from chilly,wet north central MA.
>  We cooked a venison roast wrapped in bacon last night. I shot the deer
> Wednesday, processed yesterday. Hard to get fresher than that...
> Curt
>
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Re: [MBZ] Attractive '83 240D on BAT

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sold for 15k

On Tue, Dec 19, 2023, 10:43 AM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> Has PW and an unusual "burgundy" interior.  Any guesses on the final bid
> price and whether it meets the reserve?  I predict it will reach $13 K but
> no sale.
>
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Re: [MBZ] BlueTecs

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes great list of diesel engines. I have had 616, 617, & 602.

On Sun, Dec 17, 2023, 7:22 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> Seems like OM615, 616, 617, 601, 602, 603 and 606 are the way to go…..
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Dec 17, 2023, at 9:23 AM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> > The OM251 has the timing chain at the rear. I have heard they have a
> problem stretching and breaking.
> >
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
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> >> On Dec 16, 2023, at 11:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Oil cooler issues have never arisen in either my E250 or GLK 250.
> This is
> >> only a problem in the 6 cylinder models, e.g. ML 350 Bluetec..
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Dec 16, 2023 at 10:17 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I agree, an older mechanical diesel is still desirable but the newer
> ones
> >>> with DEF and emissions crap and computers required to run them I would
> >>> avoid. They are really only suitable for drivers who need to make
> frequent
> >>> long highway trips. If you're driving infrequently and/or on mostly
> short
> >>> errands they are the wrong choice.
> >>>
> >>>
>  On Sat, Dec 16, 2023, at 17:36, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes wrote:
>  Or simply stick with a gasser.
> 
>  I mean really is there the old school advantages to having a diesel
> any
>  more, especially it you look at things like oil cooler seals and DEF
>  crapola?
> 
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> 
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> > On Dec 16, 2023, at 2:33 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Forgot to mention, stick to pre 2009 e class or pre 2008 ML/GL to
> >>> avoid DEF.
> >
> >
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> >> On Dec 16, 2023, at 1:30 PM, Bob Rentfro via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> There is a metric crap load of BlueTecs for sale out here right
> now,
> >>> many of them reasonably priced.
> >> Steer clear?
> >> I watched a video from Hoovie’s friend, The Wizard. He  maintains,
> >>> that among Mercedes SUVs, your best choice it’s a 2012 ML 350.
> >> The search for a replacement for my pick up is going to be
> deliberate.
> >>> I’m not entirely convinced that I need a pick up truck, especially if
> I get
> >>> some type of an M class with a hitch you can always borrow or rent a
> >>> trailer.
> >>
> >> Here we go.
> >>
> >> AZBob
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Re: [MBZ] Those Seats Though

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and the green door panels.

On Sat, Dec 16, 2023, 12:36 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Weird. Like it was painted with Rustoleum. And yes, those seats aren’t
> quite an abomination, but they’re close. Someone paid a lot of money for
> those, and for the life of me, I can’t imagine why.
>
> -D
>
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>
> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/354192743925035/
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Re: [MBZ] Your New Car is a “Privacy Nightmare”

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why I am hanging on to my 1982 & 2005 MB's

On Thu, Dec 14, 2023, 12:46 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> https://www.cchfreedom.org/your-new-car-is-a-privacy-nightmare/
>
> It seems Big Government and Big Tech are prying into everything that’s
> yours these days. Have you ever wondered if your car is spying on you?
> A recent analysis by the Mozilla Foundation
>
> [at
>
> https://www.vice.com/en/article/dy348q/every-new-car-is-a-privacy-nightmare-mozilla-researchers-conclude
> and
>
> https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/its-official-cars-are-the-worst-product-category-we-have-ever-reviewed-for-privacy/
> ]
>
> reveals the deeply concerning truth.
>
> The study, which examined 25 privacy policies from car manufacturers,
> found that none met the Foundation’s minimum standards for security and
> privacy. These policies allow car companies to collect vast amounts of
> personal data.
>
> Nissan’s privacy policy was singled out as especially disturbing, as it
> explicitly states its ability to collect and share sensitive personal
> information. The company also discloses its intent to share “inferences”
> drawn from personal data for profiling and targeted marketing. Nissan’s
> Legal Privacy Policy
>
> [at
>
> https://web.archive.org/web/20230906070029/https:/www.nissanusa.com/privacy.html
> ]
>
> explains the data collection in mind-boggling detail.
>
> For example, Nissan is collecting your driver’s license number, national
> or state identification number, citizenship status, immigration status,
> race, national origin, religious or philosophical beliefs, and even your
> precise geolocation.
>
> Just when you thought things couldn’t get any worse in keeping your
> health data shielded from prying eyes, Nissan is also encroaching on your
> health data privacy, collecting your sexual orientation, sexual activity,
> health diagnosis data, and genetic information.
>
> The study also discovered that a whopping 84% of the car brands studied
> share or sell personal data and “inferences” based on the collected data,
> which includes assessments of a person’s intelligence, abilities, and
> interests. More than half of these companies are willing to share user
> information with the government or law enforcement without requiring a
> subpoena.
>
> Additionally, 92% of the car companies studied give drivers little to no
> control over their data. Unfortunately, most car owners remain in the
> dark as they get behind the wheel, providing Big Tech with loads of
> sensitive private information.
>
> So the real question is, do you fully own your own car? Isn’t your data
> your property? Why do car companies get to use your car to spy on you?
>
> The truth is that there are no privacy-focused options for purchasing a
> car, as all manufacturers examined had problematic policies. Consumers
> can sign Mozilla’s
>
> [at
>
> https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/privacynotincluded/articles/car-companies-stop-your-huge-data-collection-programs-en/
> ]
>
> petition calling car companies to stop intrusive data collection
> practices. You can also contact your state legislators and members of
> Congress.
>
> While these policies are very disturbing, know that speaking out and
> demanding change is the only way to make a difference. CCHF is proud to
> partner with you in the battle for health data privacy, standing up to
> Big Tech in the fight for liberty.
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Re: [MBZ] Easy Fix?

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my wife just bought one of these. wonderful Benz

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/371252542054333/
>
>
>
> Easy fix and you have yourself a drop top.
>
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] crackhead pricing -- 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300cd Turbo, $11, 900

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may not be‐ look what CD's are bringing on BAT. I have one so I follow sale
prices carefully

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/1031019518150430
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Re: [MBZ] Bad fuel leak.

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nice. thank you Fred.

On Sun, Dec 10, 2023, 4:40 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Thanks to Fred, I got the car fixed. The line was sheared right under the
> flare nut. Fred gave me a new line and clips and other related goodies! Now
> I can head back to Bawstun.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 6, 2023, at 9:13 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Fred. I would be interested actually! I’ll let you know tomorrow
> once I confirm that the line is bad.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 8:39 PM, Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dimitri.
> >> If you need a #4 injection tube, I have one from a 6 cylinder set. Pro
> bono.
> >> Also, There are a few plastic clips too.
> >> Lemmee know.
> >> Fred.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 7:32 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> >>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I removed the manifold a couple of years ago to replace glow plugs and
> it
> >>> was not a fun job!
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >> On Dec 6, 2023, at 7:21 PM, Curt Raymond 
> wrote:
> >
> > Almost certainly a cracked line. Not a terrible job but IIRC the
> intake
> >>> manifold has to come off.
> 
>  It kinda doesn't matter where it cracked, if its under the nut the
> line
> >>> still has to be replaced, I seem to remember its just a flare...
> 
>  -Curt
> 
> 
>  On Wednesday, December 6, 2023 at 04:20:32 PM EST, Dimitri Seretakis
> via
> >>> Mercedes  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  I was driving the 90 300D 2.5 up to Maine from Boston today and
> noticed
> >>> a loss of power. I pulled over, opened the hood and noticed a very
> large
> >>> leak at the nut where the fuel line enters the #4 injector. I
> tightened the
> >>> nut but that did not help at all. I took a chance and drove the car the
> >>> remaining 45 or so miles to my house knowing that diesel isn’t that
> >>> flammable as compared with gasoline. Before I start digging into this,
> does
> >>> this seem like a cracked fuel line? I’m thinking it might be cracked
> near
> >>> the fitting where it joins with the injector. Anyone see this before in
> >>> that location?
> 
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Re: [MBZ] W211 Rear Brakes

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might makes right

On Sat, Dec 9, 2023, 6:40 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Mrs. Dan’s 2003 E320 needed rear brakes, probably for the first time (119k
> on the clock). I went to the dealer and picked up a set of rotors and pads
> for a whopping $160 total. Nice!
>
> Started on the left rear a couple of weeks ago. The rotor was not going to
> come loose. I soaked the area around the flange and rotor as best I could
> with the proverbial 50/50 mix of ATF and acetone and put everything back
> together.
>
> Today I took another swing at it, and before doing so, I stopped by my
> nearby HF store and picked up a 5-ton hydraulic three-jaw puller.
>
> Got the left rear in the air, the wheel off, and soaked it some more for
> about 30 minutes. Then, using an 18” pry bar, I put pressure on the back of
> the rotor and tapped it repeatedly using a 1 lb. ball peen hammer around
> the hub and on the face of the hub, after which about a minute, it popped
> loose at one side and then came off. Huzzah! I took care of replacing the
> pads, pressing the piston back, using MB brake paste on all friction
> points, etc., etc.
>
> Moved over to the right rear. I had not prepped it previously, so it was
> more or less the same as the other side two weeks ago. I soaked everything
> with the “majik oyl” and let it sit for maybe 30 minutes if that. Again,
> with the pry bar and tapping. Maybe 40 seconds and it yielded! Swapped all
> the bits out, pressed in the piston, greased all the new stuff up and
> installed.
>
> Put the car down and torqued the wheel bolts.
>
> I need to take a look at the fronts tomorrow…after which I’ll return the
> HF hydraulic puller...
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: "Figaro, Figaro Figaro!"

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sold 26500

On Thu, Dec 7, 2023, 5:34 PM Craig via Mercedes 
wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 12:37:59 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
>  wrote:
>
> >  I love the different colors. I’ve seen that same green , a coral pink,
> > and a blue
>
> The colors were supposed to represent the four seasons (no, not the ones
> by Vivaldi ... :-) ).
>
>
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Re: [MBZ] MERCEDES‑BENZ USA CEO ADDRESS

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藍

On Thu, Nov 30, 2023, 2:55 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> With apologies to Dimitri at al, Beware of Greeks bearing gifts?
> Fred
>
> On Thu, Nov 30, 2023 at 2:31 PM Craig via Mercedes 
> wrote:
>
> > On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 14:24:02 -0500 Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes
> >  wrote:
> >
> > > Thank you for being a part of this exciting journey toward an
> > > all‑electric and innovative future.
> >
> > I will keep my 1980 300SD even though it has problems, thank you.
> >
> >
> > Craig
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Re: [MBZ] A MB repair shop void is opening up in Tulsa

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yes i get that. a well seasoned cast iron frying pan is an object of desire

On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, 7:37 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Hey now. I give my frying pan (cast iron) far more care than most people
> give to their cars...
>
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, November 29, 2023 at 04:38:45 PM EST, Allan Streib via
> Mercedes  wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 29, 2023, at 16:33, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > All these people on Fakebook supposedly starting shops and parts
> businesses I think will be in for a shock when they don’t actually make
> money on it.
>
> I was going to reply earlier, but yeah. If you think the Facebook sellers
> are crazy, wait until you start dealing with people who take care of their
> cars with about as much care as they give a frying pan, and then get bent
> out of shape over what it costs to remediate the results of all their
> deferred maintenance.
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Re: [MBZ] OT Medicare Questions

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i have been on Medicare for 11 years. DO NOT fall for Medicare Advantage
promises unless your research is 100% certain it is an advantage in
coverage.

On Sat, Nov 25, 2023, 5:44 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Rick,
>
> I’m in the same boat as you - a year out from 65 this month and getting
> spammed by all the supplemental plan sellers, not Medicare itself. Here’s
> my advice:
>
> 1.) Consult a professional. It’s money very, very well spent. They know
> exactly what to do, how, and when.
>
> 2.) I am nearly 100% positive that you must sign up for Medicare at 65 or
> you risk not getting it or getting significantly reduced benefits as a
> penalty. We’re not planning on bailing out until 66 and 10 months, our 100%
> SSA vesting point, so we’ll continue to have health coverage under our
> employers until that point, or so we expect.
>
> 3.) Consult a professional.
>
> Kind of like Kaleb’s toasty stove, sometimes it’s better and cheaper in
> the long run to pay a professional. Especially when it involves your
> financial future.
>
> We use a “wealth manager” at our credit union to provide our planning
> needs. We gave him a few things to do a year or so ago with some
> discretionary funds we had, and he did great things with them, so we signed
> on for planning with him. I just finished the worksheet last week and we’re
> seeing him on Wednesday. I’m really interested to see where we’re going to
> come out. OK, I think, but I’m not a financial planner nor have I played
> one  on TV or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. We don’t expect
> to live a lavish lifestyle by any means, so I think we’ll be OK. My biggest
> concern is the shock of going from work to not working, both from an
> activity point of view as well as a financial one. When I was at Kohler
> people were retiring all year long (5,000+ employees) and the ones that did
> well after leaving were the ones who had clearly established plans for what
> they were going to do. Like on a daily basis, not generally. Establishing a
> routine, getting out, staying active, that sort of thing.
>
> -D
>
>
>
> > On Nov 25, 2023, at 5:26 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Yes, I do realize the system will be bankrupt by 2025 or so. That
> doesn't stop time, and I will be sixty five soon. I am employed and have
> what would be considered a "Cadillac" health plan. I am in good health with
> reasonably good genes and no bad habits (i.e. no smoking, no alcohol, no
> illicit substances) I take supplements (vitamin d, ect.) but no
> medications. I almost feel guilty pecking that out on the screen.
> >
> > Anyway, I am getting inundated with junk mail, and spam calls regarding
> Medicare. It is my understanding that I don't have to sign up, if I don't
> plan on retiring at 65, and I don't. Is that correct? Also, stay away from
> Medicare "Advantage" plans? What is an accurate resource to go for
> information?
> >
> > Getting this correct, and not getting permanently screwed is important.
> >
> >
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Re: [MBZ] 2002 Mercedes-Benz 240d,$1,000

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huh? must be a rare one off 240D

On Sat, Nov 11, 2023, 9:47 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> gotcher letters one over there bud
>
> Need work. Over 20 Mileage. Great car 240D….1000 or best offer
>
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Re: [MBZ] Jeep-cedes

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neighbor here had old Jeep with 240D

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/316842101105748/
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Re: [MBZ] Many things have been restored/replaced, 1984 Mercedes-Benz 300 cd, $43, 000

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easy replacement of Hirschman unit?

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> For starters, the antenna doesn't retract.  Deduct 23,000 from offer.
>
> On Wed, Nov 8, 2023 at 10:38 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> > looks prestine and very shinny
> >
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Re: [MBZ] OT Glorymobile -- 2007 Bentley continental GT Coupe 2D, $26, 000

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藍

On Wed, Nov 8, 2023, 10:30 AM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> Jesus might be the only thing that can help this car
>
> custom paint, 55000 miles, selling AS-IS, check engine light just on,
> rebuild title.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Can someone explain this mentality?

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can't help you Curt. unless my grandfather had it right "turn the horse
around  before the party starts"

On Tue, Nov 7, 2023, 9:20 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> It is much easier to pull out of a space which you have backed into. Its
> safer too because you can see much better.
>
> A friend has a work truck, he is consistently rated the safest driver they
> have in part because he always backs in to park.
>
> -Curt
>
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, November 7, 2023 at 04:01:25 PM EST, Kaleb Striplin via
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>
>
>
>
> I travel a lot and have noticed recently at hotels, restaurants, basically
> anywhere with a parking lot, people seem to back into the parking stop
> instead of just pulling in. This seems to be especially true with pickup
> trucks and big SUVs. What’s the deal? I think it’s stupid as crap and my
> theory is these people don’t know how to properly back out of their spot
> when they go to leave. It sometimes makes it difficult for others who are
> pulling in correctly in their spot to back out. When trying to park, I
> often have to sit there and wait as some idiot has the isle blocked while
> attempting to back their big ‘ol truck in instead of just pulling the damn
> thing in.
>
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Re: [MBZ] W124 OM602 serpentine belt

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I know I changed the shock absorber once but that could have been a quarter
million miles ago.
Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


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> So I finally got to replacing the serpentine belt on the 90 300D 2.5Turbo.
> The belt broke leaving me stranded a couple of months ago. I attributed it
> to the idler pulley being seized but it’s not actually seized. When the
> belt shredded apart, bits of it got wedged behind the pulley giving the
> impression that it was seized. So my question is what caused the serpentine
> belt to fail catastrophically? The belt drive has been making a rattling
> noise for a few years now so I assumed it was the pulley but it doesn’t
> seem to be bad. I have a new one on hand so I will replace it anyway. I’m
> just worried that there is some other problem.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Diesel fuel mileage

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makes sense. cheapo Sam's

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> I do not have any specific testing or proof, but it just seems like I
> get better mileage when I filled up at other stations than I do with
> Sams or Walmart diesel.  I suppose I could do some actual testing but it
> just seems like everytime I fill up somewhere else, I get a lot more
> miles per tank.  Has any one else observed this?
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Re: [MBZ] other than that, none wrong with it - 1976 300D - 39k miles - $4, 750

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that will buff right out

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> It just need some body work...
>
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Re: [MBZ] Oil filler cap leak?

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I need one for the OM617 in my 300CD

On Mon, Oct 16, 2023, 1:16 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> That and you can replace the rubber seal. I can post the part number later
> after I get home.i used to keep these on the shelf when I had older models.
> Newer ones get the new “easy to turn” filler cap.
>
> -D
>
>
> > On Oct 16, 2023, at 12:54 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > 
> >>
> >> I think it’s the oil filler cap. Do these leak? Is this common?
> >
> > They can leak.  It's got a rubber seal, so...
> >
> > There can also be mechanical damage to the hole, check for deformation.
> >
> > -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] Ml320 Diesel

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Happy Birthday Fred. Spouse had to get a new key for her 2000 CLK320.
dealer item. a little less than 300USD.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 5:11 PM Frederick Moir via Mercedes <
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> Alles.
> Is a new key for a 2009 ML320 a dealer only option?
> Which scan tool is recommended for the same car?
> This is for my birthday present, I wanted a Blue one and got a Cubanite
> Silver one.
> (It's bloody beige!)
> Thanks.
> --
> Fred Moir
> Lynn MA
> 86 300TD Marine Blue
> 2009 ML320 Bluetec. Beige/Taupe.
> Diesel preferred
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Re: [MBZ] [Okietalk] Car for Clay — Kleb needs to move to ND

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Quonset huts were invented about 5 miles from where I live. Quonset point
RI. in WWII they were easy to transport & set up on battlefield. I see one
now and again  still used for storage or even a garage frame.

On Fri, Oct 13, 2023, 7:00 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> I’m not completely sure I’m on board with Quonset huts. They’re not very
> efficient space-wise, but certainly, any extra space is appreciated.
>
> -D
>
> On Oct 13, 2023, at 6:49 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
> AND a quonset hut!
>
>
> Rick
>
> From: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Sent: October 13, 2023 5:33 PM
> To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Reply-to: mercedes@okiebenz.com
> Cc: d...@penoff.com
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Okietalk] Car for Clay — Kleb needs to move to ND
>
> Man, that place is a real time capsule. Oil furnace, maybe 100A electrical
> service, pink tile, you get it all there if you’re looking for some serious
> “retro”.
>
> Getting some serious “rural” there, too. That place is close to NOTHING.
>
> -D
>
> On Oct 13, 2023, at 6:27 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> --FT
> Sent from iFōn
> C
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Clay via Okietalk 
> Date: October 13, 2023 at 5:38:12 PM EDT
> To: okiet...@okiebenz.com
> Cc: Clay 
> Subject: Re: [Okietalk] Car for Clay
> Reply-To: okiet...@okiebenz.com
>
> I can not Fakebuch any more, lost the account.
>
> What #1 boy found while house hunting is this jewel
>
>
> https://www.realtor.com/realestateandhomes-detail/10385-20-St-SE_Leal_ND_58479_M97947-17423?from=srp-list-card
>
> pea green /8 in the garage.  Told him to make sure it sold with the home.
>
> Clay
>
>
> inter urinas et faeces nascimur
>
> On Oct 12, 2023, at 6:36 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Okietalk <
> okiet...@okiebenz.com okiet...@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/6708774865855862<
> https://www.facebook.com/groups/W123NA/permalink/6708774865855862/?mibextid=W9rl1R
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Re: [MBZ] Molested Abomination -- 1985 Mercedes-Benz 300cd,$3,800

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criminal. this from a 300CD owner

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Re: [MBZ] Windows 11

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yes I have avoided 11 & stay with 10.

On Fri, Oct 6, 2023, 5:26 PM Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes <
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> So I got this new z3 workstation fired up and it’s running windows 11.
> Very different. I should have stuck with 10. What in the world was I
> thinking. I wonder if I can roll it back to 10?
>
> I’m going to have to set this computer back up from scratch, then try and
> recover my crap off my other drives. Fun times.
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Re: [MBZ] Always Wanted A....

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I get it. I have always wanted a Checker since we lived in NYC in early
1970'S

On Sat, Sep 30, 2023, 6:02 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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>
> ...Checker ever since I rode in/worked on one when I was in high school.
> Guess it goes along with my preference for wagons?
>
> <
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/spring-hill-1965-checker-marathon/7671632090.html
> >
> [00707_1bAjn0OV2rZ_0iJ0bl_600x450.jpg]
> 1965 CHECKER MARATHON for sale by owner - Spring Hill, FL - craigslist<
> https://tampa.craigslist.org/hdo/cto/d/spring-hill-1965-checker-marathon/7671632090.html
> >
> tampa.craigslist.org<
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Re: [MBZ] Might not be too bad

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looks good. great engine

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Re: [MBZ] OT: A little game

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Duh you got me.

On Sun, Sep 24, 2023, 12:51 AM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Let's play "Where is Curt this time?"
> First hint:
>
> https://photos.app.goo.gl/HJWDHrERCg4wiYL77
> It's my second work trip since Feb 2020 and the first that was actually
> planned. A hint might be that I've never been here before but there are an
> awful lot of places I could say that about.
> Now that I think of it I probably told Fred and Dwight about it a couple
> weeks ago. We'll see if they remember.
>
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Re: [MBZ] What every electric vehicle should have.

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

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 11:26 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> You want to pull your hair out, then get a Mercedes EV. They are overly
> complicated nightmares. Better off with a leaf or a Tesla or even better,
> keep driving your old diesels.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 14, 2023, at 10:55 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >
> > The Nissan Leaf is a very simple, practical car. Just like any other car
> > except you get about 80 miles on a charge and then have to plug it in. I
> am
> > looking at Mercedes EVS for 2016 or 2017. They remind me of my GLK 250.
> > Slightly smaller, but a quite practical SUV. With my solar Giorgio panels
> > and home hook up, this is a no-brainer. Once I have an EV it won't be
> > reliant on coal to run.
> >
> >> On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 10:25 PM Craig via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> The sticker on the right side of the trunk lid, that is.
> >>
> >>
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> P.S. When I saw this ahead of me as I was driving home from church
> >> on Sunday, I rushed to get my cell phone out and powered up
> >> so I could take the picture. I was just able to take this
> >> picture as the traffic lights ahead turned green and the
> >> Leaf left me in the dust.
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Re: [MBZ] What every electric vehicle should have.

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

On Thu, Sep 14, 2023, 10:25 PM Craig via Mercedes 
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> The sticker on the right side of the trunk lid, that is.
>
>
> Craig
>
> P.S. When I saw this ahead of me as I was driving home from church
>  on Sunday, I rushed to get my cell phone out and powered up
>  so I could take the picture. I was just able to take this
>  picture as the traffic lights ahead turned green and the
>  Leaf left me in the dust.
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Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5T serpentine belt

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oh no. any misaligned or burrs on pulleys?

On Thu, Sep 7, 2023, 11:40 AM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> The serpentine belt just broke a mile or so from home. I managed to coast
> back home mostly downhill with some short spurts where I drove the car
> until it started getting hot.
> Anyway, I might tackle it on my own as I did the alternator on that car
> when I first got it and obviously the serpentine belt had to come off for
> that. Question is why did it fail? It looks like I might not be able to
> bring it to the Q dammit.
>
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Re: [MBZ] Unclog Washer

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I think I bought that holder but don't recall for sure.probably will know
when I see it again.

On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 11:30 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
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> I have a black plastic cup holder thing that fits in the center console.
> It came with the car. Dwight had that car for most of its later years so
> maybe he installed it?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Sep 5, 2023, at 8:27 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> >
> > Forgot about the cupholder. I know there are numerous aftermarket
> solutions, but I made one out of wood once that was tall enough to restrain
> more “modern” cups. That’s what I would be looking for. That or you can
> just pull back the accordion cover and stick your cup/bottle, whatever in
> it, and hope it doesn’t tip over. And for goodness sake, please, please
> don’t buy one of those square things that people screw into the door cards.
> Arrgh!!!
> >
> > I’ll be interested to see what you can find online. I haven’t looked for
> anything like this in a while, hopefully, there are improvements.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Sep 5, 2023, at 5:19 PM, Donald Snook via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Is there a specific method for unclogging the windshield washer?  Mine
> just sort of leaked out on one side and the other was a super thin spray on
> the other.
> >>
> >> I have gotten spoiled by modern cars.  I need a cup holder.  I have
> seen a few on eBay that are plastic that fit in the center console. Anybody
> used one of those?
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] Wallmarks AC juice

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I personally won't go near wallsmarks- don't like their unfair competition
with local business. my thing

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> So I got 2 cans instead of 2 crates of 12 which is what the order was
> for.  Immediately contacted Wallsmarks and they passed my complaint
> along to the vendor.  Vendor says "glitch" in their sales system.
> Whatever.  I told them I wanted the product that I paid for.  They said
> no.  So then I said I wanted a full refund and return label for
> shipping.  They say they can't do that but they can refund my shipping
> cost on the order and half the order cost.  So that would give me 2 cans
> for $15 or whatever, which is not unreasonable.  I tell them no, I want
> to send the whole thing back, they pay.  They say they can't do that
> (probably because you're not supposed to ship that stuff via USPS) but
> can do the shipping refund and half the order as the previous offer,
> best they can do.  So I say OK.  I'll wait to see if they actually carry
> through.
>
> Wallsmark has been fairly good about this, apparently the correspondence
> goes through them and Pradeep in Bangladesh monitors it or something and
> was prodding the vendor.
>
> But I won't be buying anything 3rd party through El Mercado de Wal again.
>
> --FT
>
> On 8/28/23 2:31 PM, Kaleb Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
> > I’m betting 1 can.
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
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> >>
> >> There was some review comment that they only got one can, the ad very
> clearly is for pack of 12 so I'm interested to see how much shows up.
> >>
> >>
> >>> On Mon, Aug 28, 2023, at 12:52, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes wrote:
> >>> Is on its way. As cheap as it was I hope it’s some actual juice and not
> >>> some chinee poison gas of some kind
> >>>
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Re: [MBZ] Faux wood grain wrapped 2001 E320 wagon

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a real woody

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Re: [MBZ] OT Jay Leno

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yes was watching his show today & he made a reference to his shirt.

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> I watched a YouTube vid of his shop update and at the end he did a tour of
> his denim shirt collection. He has a room with a bunch of those rolling
> clothes racks loaded with hundreds of denim shirts. Too funny.
>
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ

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vintage Mercedes car service from the airport.

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> Yeah, I forgot about the voucher for the car service.
>
> -D
>
> On Aug 26, 2023, at 6:33 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> 
> & airport limo
>
> On Sat, Aug 26, 2023, 7:17 PM dan penoff.com via
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> You haven’t heard from the concierge about your round trip tickets? I got
> mine weeks ago.
>
> -D
>
> (Just kidding)
>
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> > When is it?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ

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& airport limo

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> You haven’t heard from the concierge about your round trip tickets? I got
> mine weeks ago.
>
> -D
>
> (Just kidding)
>
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> > When is it?
> >
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ

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Sept 9. can you be there? love to have you

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Re: [MBZ] Slightly used

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mafia car?

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> https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/230793626401508/?mibextid=6ojiHh
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Re: [MBZ] I accidentally won this auction for $200

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your lucky day

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> https://www.copart.com/lot/59583673
>
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Re: [MBZ] A Solid W123

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my 82 300CD has a tach. can't remember if my 79 240D had one.

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> Maybe the OM617 cars had the tach? I've seen the clock only option in the
> 240D also.
>
> On Mon, Aug 14, 2023, at 17:11, dan penoff.com via Mercedes wrote:
> > Keep in mind that some early W123s didn’t have tachs - at least my 1979
> > 300TD didn’t - it had a clock. I don’t recall what the cutoff or models
> > affected were, but I do recall my 300TD having a clock because I
> > remember replacing the caps in it to restore it to working condition.
> > One of the first DIY repairs I ever did on an MB.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Aug 14, 2023, at 12:06 PM, Allan Streib via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Is the whole tachometer different or just the under-hood/RPM signal
> components?
> >>
> >> Here's a possible DIY replacement...
> >>
> >>
> https://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/219949-om617a-tach-amp.html
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, at 20:35, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:
> >>> The 1985 version of the tachometer is different from the earlier ones.
> It does not have the screw in under hood amplifier that always messes up.
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, 7:06 PM Allan Streib via Mercedes <
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>  On Sun, Aug 13, 2023, at 15:48, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
> 
> > The tachometer does not work.
> 
>  They work when they want to, which is rarely.
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[MBZ] Fwd: One month untill ChowdahQ 16

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

Dwight E. Giles Jr.
Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


*A Reminder*

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Bissell Cove
Wickford RI


On Thu, Feb 2, 2023 at 5:16 PM Dwight Giles  wrote:

>
> [image: image.png]
>
>
> Mark your calendar for September 9, 2023 for another wonderful celebration
> of vehicles and camaraderie.  Once again we  will be at Goddard State Park,
> 1095 Ives Road Warwick RI. Sites 40-42.
> http://www.riparks.com/Locations/LocationGoddard.html
>
> We will start to gather about 10AM for coffee and Dunkin Donuts (It is New
> England).  We will start with clams  & Chowdah about 1PM.  As always we
> will have clam loaded Chowdah and Curt's Coleman cooked  food of YouTube
> Fame . Fred Moir  will once again make his famous healthy veggie trays and
> dips  We  will also steam a couple hundred local littleneck clams.
>
> As usual, we will have a great time of hood raising, story telling, some
> games and contests and a drawing for a  gift certificate from  our sponsor
> Fred's Autohaus  in West Warwick RI. No admission charge  but we will pass
> the 240D hubcap for expenses.
>
> Dwight
>
> Dwight E. Giles Jr.
> 1982 300CD
> 2005 E320 4matic
>
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Re: [MBZ] Keep Driving Our Cars!!!

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makes me appreciate my 82 300CD or even w211 320

On Mon, Aug 7, 2023, 7:09 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> Interesting story:
>
>
> https://www.marketplace.org/2023/08/07/why-have-car-repairs-gotten-so-expensive/
> [
> https://www.marketplace.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/GettyImages-1237700473-e1691419594760.jpg?w=1200
> ]<
> https://www.marketplace.org/2023/08/07/why-have-car-repairs-gotten-so-expensive/
> >
> Why have car repairs gotten so expensive? - Marketplace<
> https://www.marketplace.org/2023/08/07/why-have-car-repairs-gotten-so-expensive/
> >
> The cost of car maintenance and repair is rising much faster than
> inflation. The reasons? Labor, parts — and newer cars.
> www.marketplace.org
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ?

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well if you can work it out it would be great. wonderful food  & great hood
raisings & MB talk.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 10:28 PM Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes <
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> I was planning to be downnacape visiting a friend on Thursday for the
> following weekend. I’ll have to ponder the logistics of the 9th v that
> plan.
>
> --FT
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> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 6:30 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes <
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> >
> > yes Sept 9. sure hope you can join us.
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 4:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> Remind me again of if/when there will be a ChowdaQ up nawth.  I'm headed
> >> up to MA mid-nextmonth and was thinking if I was around the region and
> >> the event is going on I could drop in.
> >>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: E-Golf

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yes we tried that too

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> No mow May was kind of funny, we don't really even get dandelions until
> near the end of May...
>
> -Curt
>
>
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 09:25:57 PM EDT, Dimitri Seretakis via
> Mercedes  wrote:
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>
>
>
>
> To keep up with the Jones? The new thing now is to let your weeds grow and
> put a “pollinators lives matter” sign in your yard.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Aug 3, 2023, at 9:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
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> >
> > Out of curiosity, why have you decided to dump the GLK250?
> >
> >> On Thu, Aug 3, 2023 at 1:27 PM Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
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> >>
> >> I'm looking for an EV to replace the GLK 250, possibly a VW E-Golf.
> >>
> >> Anyone have any experience with a diesel/gas VW Golf?  I assume the EV
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> > are wearing."
> >
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Re: [MBZ] “I WON’T BUY AN EV….”

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But the Baker Electric cars never made it

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 10:13 PM Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
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> Agreed, they all laughed at early tractor owners, who farms with horses
> now?
>
> Do any of you watch "Vintage Wheels" on YouTube? He's putting 900hp of
> Tesla (well, 2x 450hp) motors into a Ford Escape. This is a test bed before
> he puts that into a bus.
>
> Another interesting one to watch is "Edison Motors" who's tagline is
> "Stealing all of Tesla's good ideas." They're making electric and hybrid
> logging trucks. They're a bunch of loggers who decided to make new trucks
> and retrofit existing trucks. They make interesting choices.
>
> -Curt
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>
> On Thursday, August 3, 2023 at 09:16:00 PM EDT, RICK HAWKINS via Mercedes <
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>
>
>
>
> Folks
>
> I won’t buy an ev …. How short sighted
>
> I won’t drive a horseless carriage … what 1910
>
> I won’t fly in a plane …. 1930?
>
> I won’t have an automatic transmission?? What year as that
>
> I won’t have a cell phone … smart phone …. Computer etc
>
> All of these things are just tools
>
> As I work on my new to me 1999 diesel Chevrolet  (Isuzu NPR)  I dream of
> buying a $1000 say 2012 Leaf …. I’ll bet you can pull the battery and
> identify and replace weak cells and bring it back to some range …. I think
> one would be fun to play with
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

this will be ChowdahQ 16.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 4:36 PM Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Remind me again of if/when there will be a ChowdaQ up nawth.  I'm headed
> up to MA mid-nextmonth and was thinking if I was around the region and
> the event is going on I could drop in.
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Re: [MBZ] AAA

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

We had flat in Maine on newly acquired wife's CLK320. no wrench or Jack
handle so we called AAA. they claimed they couldn't find our location.
finally local guy helped us.
I have been a member for close to 50 years.

On Thu, Aug 3, 2023, 5:34 PM dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
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> It may not be an issue in this situation, but do be aware that AAA is not
> a "national" thing in that it's a regionalized business with each regional
> AAA entity being held by a different company or owner, unless things have
> changed. Memberships and benefits can be different between the different
> companies.
>
> Mrs. Dan worked for AAA Florida for around 8 years, so we're quite
> familiar with them and how they work (or not.) And no, we don't have a
> membership.
>
> -D
> 
> From: Mercedes  on behalf of mitch--- via
> Mercedes 
> Sent: Thursday, August 3, 2023 4:39 PM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List 
> Cc: mi...@mitchellhaley.com 
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] AAA
>
> I wonder if there's a shortage of tow companies willing to work at AAA
> contract rates.
>
> Are the contracts particularly bad in per mile rates, so that there
> would be an incentive to refuse a long haul?
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Re: [MBZ] ChowdaQ?

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes Sept 9. sure hope you can join us.

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> Remind me again of if/when there will be a ChowdaQ up nawth.  I'm headed
> up to MA mid-nextmonth and was thinking if I was around the region and
> the event is going on I could drop in.
>
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

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yup. it is replace mentality vs repair. I am so fortunate to have a great
indy MB mechanic who also is a sponsor for our annual ChowdahQ

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 10:28 PM Dimitri Seretakis 
wrote:

> Definitely the “mechanics” at the Mercedes dealerships. I mentioned a
> while back that the dealership claimed that my mother’s G500 needed a new
> ecu which was NLA and they suggested that it get written off as a total
> loss. Well, I took it to an independent shop which spent 5 hours on it and
> got it running. All they did was clean up some relays and fuses. How about
> that for dealership incompetence.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Aug 1, 2023, at 9:55 PM, Dwight Giles  wrote:
>
> 
> yes including mechanics
>
> On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 9:39 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>
>> I know. Part of the issue is that the art of plumbing is dying. No skill
>> involved in pulling a trigger on a crimping machine. Now they need that
>> expensive Milwaukee tool when they could just use a cheap propane torch and
>> some solder. Everything has to be over complicated now, including cars. On
>> every corner you turn, you run into societal degradation….
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> > On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Actually, a lot of plumbers no longer sweat solder copper. They use
>> the crimp system that Milwaukee and others promote. It’s pretty slick stuff.
>> >
>> > -D
>> >
>> >> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with
>> soldered copper.
>> >>
>> >> Sent from my iPhone
>> >>
>>  On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the
>> Sharkbite fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your
>> next of kin.
>> >>>
>> >>> -D
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> 
>>  
>> >
>> > PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are
>> letting loose.
>> 
>>  Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
>> 
>>  -- Jim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

[Dwight Giles via Mercedes]

yes including mechanics

On Tue, Aug 1, 2023, 9:39 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I know. Part of the issue is that the art of plumbing is dying. No skill
> involved in pulling a trigger on a crimping machine. Now they need that
> expensive Milwaukee tool when they could just use a cheap propane torch and
> some solder. Everything has to be over complicated now, including cars. On
> every corner you turn, you run into societal degradation….
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Aug 1, 2023, at 7:55 AM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > Actually, a lot of plumbers no longer sweat solder copper. They use the
> crimp system that Milwaukee and others promote. It’s pretty slick stuff.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >> On Jul 31, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Dimitri Seretakis 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with
> soldered copper.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
>  On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the
> Sharkbite fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your
> next of kin.
> >>>
> >>> -D
> >>>
> >>>
> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>  
> >
> > PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting
> loose.
> 
>  Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
> 
>  -- Jim
> 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: I hate plumbing

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say on Dimitri.

On Mon, Jul 31, 2023, 8:50 PM Dimitri Seretakis via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Real men drive old diesel Mercedes and real houses are plumbed with
> soldered copper.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 31, 2023, at 2:59 PM, dan penoff.com via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have a plumber in the family and they’re not keen about the Sharkbite
> fittings. A proper crimp with PEX or copper and Robert is your next of kin.
> >
> > -D
> >
> >
> >> On Jul 31, 2023, at 11:55 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> 
> >>>
> >>> PEX ... (someone slamming a full open valve closed) they are letting
> loose.
> >>
> >> Humph.  Never happened with lead pipes...
> >>
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