[MBZ] 2002 C320 headlight cover
Is there anyone on the list who may know if the plastic headlight covers on a 2002 C320, which tend to degrade and fog up with age, are replaceable as I only seem to be able to find the complete headlight assembly availables? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] super leather treatment stuff
Guys, Forgive the memory lapse, as having MB-Tex in both my diesels I've had no reason to remember this stuff until I found a C-class wagon for my brother which has leather upholstery and the front seats have some light cracking. What is the name of that super leather treatment stuff and where is it available? TIA. See ya', stay healthy. Glenn ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2013 C240
Any knowledge/experience anyone on the list may have regarding a 2013 C240 M-B with ~77K mi. which is for sale on a local used car lot here for $9995 would be greatly appreciated. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Atlanta, GA indy
For anyone on the list who is near or planning to be near Atlanta, GA, this place is run by the son of one of my tennis friends: http://www.ratchetandwrench.com/RatchetWrench/May-2015/Revolution-Mercedes-Benz-Specialists/ G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 LF window switch
Another WAHOO from someone who's semi-technically competent as the LF window was lowered on my '85 300TD earlier and it wouldn't raise. I pulled the switch apart and found it quite gunky, cleaned it with brake cleaner, spayed with DeOxit, reinstalled and voila it works fine. Don't ya' just love old M-Bs which have repaired items like this. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] another oddball experience with W123 heat - update
An update for those who may be interested: 1) Installed my acetone + DeOxit cleaned multi-purpose stalk in my '84 300D and all is OK (Yipeee!), and 2) The interior fan problem I was having in my '85 300TD has also been resolved via thoroughly cleaning the pins of the fan speed resistor cage mounted under hood on the right side fender well (Yipeee, Yippeee!). G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: fan speed resistor cage.jpg Type: image/jpeg Size: 1055355 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150318/9268e77e/attachment.jpg ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] CD player for my W123
Am considering a move into the 21st century for my W123 and would like to find if any of you have installed/added a CD player while maintaining the Becker Grand Prix electronic radio. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] another oddball experience with W123 heat - update
Guys, I changed the new mono valve insert, which I had obtained from the PartsGeek, back to the one I had in there previously where one could not regulate the temperature via the PBU thumbwheel . . . it would be max heat at the MAX position or almost no heat at any other temp setting. The old mono valve now back in place now, get this, I've got regulateable heat via the PBU thumbwheel now where the new mono valve insert didn't provide any heat at any PBU setting . . . go figure; I'm thankful for miracles no matter in what form they appear. I'm gonna' try sending back the new mono valve inserts to the PartsGeek. I'll bet they're Chinese junk as there are no markings and the diameter of the mono valve (silver) shaft is rather large which causes quite a tight fit. Also, in reference to the multi-purpose (turn signal) stalk which I was having trouble with in my '84 300D and replaced with one obtained on Ebay where the seller indicated that it was a working stalk, I just got done measuring continuities of the 14 pin connector in all stalk positions of my original stalk and, since I cannot get the lo-beam headlight position to lose continuity when gently wiggling the stalk as it had been doing when it was in the car previously (Note: I've since done a quite a thorough cleaning , etc. of the original stalk while out of the car using acetone and DeOxit . . . maybe that's the reason it seems to be working OK? I'll reinstall it in the car to see what happens and try to return the Ebay obtained stalk to the seller, though he has not responded yet but I'll follow the Ebay rules and wait 3 days before contacting Ebay. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] W123 multi-purpose stalk continuity check
In case this may be useful to anyone, I measured the continuity of all pin combinations of the multi-purpose stalk from my '84 300D. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC -- next part -- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: Continuity check of W123 Multipurpose stalk 031215.doc Type: application/msword Size: 26624 bytes Desc: not available URL: http://mail.okiebenz.com/pipermail/mercedes_okiebenz.com/attachments/20150312/0c867764/attachment.doc ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] another oddball experience with W123 heat
Since both my '84 300D '85 300TD have trouble maintaining heat as chosen via the thumbwheel on the left of the PBU and I've been through (including resoldering) the troubleshooting guide numerous times for both units and not found a definitive problem. To explain about the problem of not maintaining heat, what actually happens for example when a temperature is chosen via the thumbwheel on the PBU say just below the MAX (note: click stop setting), the heat will gradually disappear within a couple minutes and I have to keep switching to MAX, etc. Since I've inspected the neoprene seals of the mono valve inserts in both cars using a 10X loop and haven't been able to locate any very small holes, I recently purchased new mono valve inserts and installed a new one in the 300D and drove it this evening and had no heat no matter what . . . go figure. Like I believe many others on this list, I wish these cars had the old mechanical heating/cooling control system and not the dreaded elec tronic fancilessness. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: https://server.secureplusplusfour.net:2083/cpsess595060604/3rdparty/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update
For anyone keeping track, I changed out the PBU with a spare I have and the same thing occurs where the interior fan does not come on when the Hi-speed fan and middle (lower) PBU button are depressed after the car is started but the fan will start when the defrost button is depressed, so it looks like I've gotta' look into the connection(s) to the fan itself. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior update
The odd behavior which I described previously does not occur when the fan is on and hitting any sort of bump, the fan does not come on after restarting the car (e.g., when running errands) when it's ptreviously been running but seems to come back on after 2 or 3 restarts. And, yes the #8 fuse was replaced with a new one to no effect. I noticed a little while ago while running some errands that the fan will come on when the defrost button of the PBU is depressed but the other buttons don't seem to work when the high speed fan button is also depressed. And, yes I've pushed the high speed vs. the low speed fan settings to try to get the fan to run, but only turning off the car and restarting seems to help. Since my PBU has been stripped/resoldered, I don't believe the problem is there but I'll replace it with the spare I've got to see. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '85TD interior fan odd behavior
Guys, Just thought I'd touch base to see if any of you have experienced the same fan oddity and found the cause, etc. While driving around the other day on some errands and stopping/starting the car occasionally, the interior fan would not turn on after a restart unless I turned the car off again (sometimes it would require 2X restarts for the fan to start). Anyone got any suggestions as to where/what to look for? And, no it's not the fuse (8). TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] here you go
No matter how good/bad the price for one of these, I think the majority of the folks on this list are of the somewhat frugal variety and wouldn't be interested in the gas mileage. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W123 multi-purpose stalk replacement installed
The W123 multi-purpose stalk replacement I obtained is installed and working . . . hurray. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] W123 multi-purpose stalk
Has anyone on the list tried/succeeded to rebuild their W123 multi-purpose stalk (turn signal, headlight flasher, windshield wiper/washer, and cruise control stalk)? I've obtained a replacement and will hopefully install it tomorrow . . . cross your fingers that the replacement works. TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] '84 300D multi-purpose stalk
I've been having a somewhat intermittent problem with my low beam headlights turning off seemingly on their own. It seem to occur when either hitting a bump in the road, when using the turn signals, or when using the hi-beam flasher so it must be in the multi-purpose stalk. I've sprayed DeOxit D5 in the switch and exercised it in all directions but the problem persists. My local indy tells me that this is a common occurrance and that I need a new switch. What is the list's consensus? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] (MBZ) '84 300D multi-purpose stalk
I've been looking on the Inet for a replacement multi-purpose stalk for my '84 300D and have found prices for new units at ~ $50 (URO) - $150 (OE). Since it may be awhile before the weather warms up sufficiently for a PNP visit, what's the list's consensus regarding URO products? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] W123 Fuel Sending Unit
I may have missed the original post on this subject as I was away and deleted most of the stuff from the list. I have a repaired (cleaned and 0.202mm Nichrome wire replaced 5/13) '85 300TD fuel sending unit which I'd let go for considerably less if that's what one of you is interested in. Note: the fuel gauge in my TD was behaving oddly (bouncing around, etc.) so I obtained a replacement fuel sending unit from the local PNP, managed to break the Nichrome wire in both the original fuel sending unit as well as the one obtained from the PNP. I ordered the 0.202mm Nichrome wire and repaired both units. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] FW: '84 300D GPR
Latest on '84 300D GPR: From: g_010...@hotmail.com To: jaime...@gmail.com Subject: RE: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 14:55:10 -0500 Jaime, As per my previous note, the glow plug lite in the dash lites up OK when the key is turned to the ON/Start position but, when the condition occurs when it doesn't start, there's only a slight click and a signal from the starter as if the battery was almost dead . . . not enough power to turn the starter enough to start the car. Note, a new glow plug fuse was installed in March. What I don't understand is that the car wouldn't start yesterday, but started OK today prior to my doing anything to it. Thanx. Glenn Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 13:48:39 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR From: jaime...@gmail.com To: g_010...@hotmail.com Hi Glenn, This is why information from the internet isn't always so reliable ;-) Funny... I have the same issue with my 79 300SD. I take apart the relay once a year to clean it up with deoxit and some paper towels. One of these days I'll break down and buy a new one, but until then... One thing you should be weary of is the fuse. It might look good, but not be able to support the 50+amps when the plugs are glowing. I've seen them when they look ok, then break in two when you remove them a fiddle with them a bit. What exactly is the problem when it doesn't work? No light and no glow? Or no light with glow? If I remember correctly it is a failure mode for the light to not come on, but still provide power to the plugs if there is one or more thats failed. Good luck,Jaime On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 1:37 PM, G. M. Brown g_010...@hotmail.com wrote: Jaime, Prior to going out to the garage to see what else I could do about this, I found the following from a guy on the PeachParts site: Yes, you can pull it apart and clean the board/resolder the components. If it's stuck on just pull the bucket off, removing a screw in each of the four corners. Check the solenoid (the thing that moves) and it's contacts. Sometimes water will seep in and corrode on the contacts. They should be smooth. If they're not use a piece of sandpaper or a really fine file to remove any built up corrosion. If that doesn't work, just get another one. Unless you want to spend the time testing and resoldering each component. Today's episode: 1. The car started OK prior to doing anything. 2. The glow plug lite in the dash lites up OK when the key is turned to the ON/Start position. 3. There's continuity between the two sides of the glow plug fuse. 4. There's power to each side of the glow plug fuse when the key is turned to the ON/Start position. 5. For grins, I DeOxit'd the female pin plugs to the glow plug relay box. 6. The car started OK after messin' around as well. If the bloody thing misbehaves on my attempt to go to church tomorrow, I'm not sure what else I can do. Glenn Brevard, NC Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:42:12 -0500 Subject: Re: [MBZ] '84 300D GPR From: jaime...@gmail.com To: g_010...@hotmail.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com I think the problem is that you sanded the contacts. Its like ignition points, if you sand off the surface coating then the likelyhood that they corrode and fail again are much higher. Jaime On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 5:01 PM, G. M. Brown via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote: I had a buzzing problem upon starting attempt with the GPR in my '84 300D back in March, took it apart resoldered the PCB, lightly sanded the contact points, and cleaned the external pin connections and it's been OK till the other day when all I would get was a click when attempting to start and it sounded like the battery was dead. I checked the battery voltage and it's fine, so I took the GPR apart again, cleaned things up, lightly sanded the contact points, and DeOxit'd the contact points and external pins and the car started fine for one day, but it was back to the click and sounding like the battery is dead. I remembered someone indicating back in March that moisture can get into the GPR box, but I sealed the edges w/ RTV the other day. I'll dig into it again tomorrow to see if I can find what the problem is. Any suggestions? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. -- Jaime Kopchinskihttp://www.jaimekop.com/ -- Jaime Kopchinskihttp://www.jaimekop.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com
[MBZ] '84 300D GPR
I had a buzzing problem upon starting attempt with the GPR in my '84 300D back in March, took it apart resoldered the PCB, lightly sanded the contact points, and cleaned the external pin connections and it's been OK till the other day when all I would get was a click when attempting to start and it sounded like the battery was dead. I checked the battery voltage and it's fine, so I took the GPR apart again, cleaned things up, lightly sanded the contact points, and DeOxit'd the contact points and external pins and the car started fine for one day, but it was back to the click and sounding like the battery is dead. I remembered someone indicating back in March that moisture can get into the GPR box, but I sealed the edges w/ RTV the other day. I'll dig into it again tomorrow to see if I can find what the problem is. Any suggestions? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital
I can remember when I was somewhat of an audiophile that one could still prefer vinyl over a CD played via a Mark Levinson ($25K) CD player, so I can't relate to the interest(s) in converting to digital files. Other than live performances, I prefer good recordings played back via good equipment. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] any suggestions for a new computer
For the techies on the list, I'm considering a new computer . . . any suggestions? 90% of what I do is Email. I currently have an older Dell using WinXP . . . no flames please. Thanx. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] multi-purpose stalk on '84 300D
Anyone have any testing clues as the headlight flashing (squeezing) function doesn't seem to work? It used to work, now all other functions of this stalk do work. TIA G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
[MBZ] Hella quartz halogen headlights
I've recently seen some of you post that you've converted to Hella quartz halogen headlights. I see that Amazon has these (HELLA 002395991 7 H4 Type Single High/Low Beam Headlamp) for $37.07 with free shipping. This may be a silly question, but is this a direct drop in without having to rewire the standard headlight plug in my '84 300D? Also, in case I may not be happy with the light output, has anyone substituted the 100/80W bulbs for the standard 60/55W bulbs? TIA. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
Re: [MBZ] 123 Body Panels
Since my '84 300D may very well be my last car and I didn't want to take a chance on used fenders from a junkyard, I obtained a couple fenders from the Classic Center in CA. As I recall, the price wasn't too exorbitant and the fellow ( jon.sigg...@mbusa.com ) I dealt with was very helpful. Good luck. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.