Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

How about the European formula?  Isn't that still full synthetic?

Greg

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Striplin via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 12:41 PM
To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World

Did you know that stuff is not really synthetic anymore, it's just group 3
base stock. Better off using delvac 1 Dino because you should not go
extended oil changes with m1 anymore

Sent from my iPhone

 On Jul 16, 2014, at 2:17 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 How often are you changing? I'll probably change the Jetta at the end of
next week which will be right around 250,000 miles with maybe 10k OCI. I
should probably take a sample and see how things are inside.
 
 The 190D gets 10k changes, the Ranger 8k because it does mostly short
trips.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 From: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
 To: Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com; Mercedes Discussion List
mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World
 
 
 I have struggled with hit or miss stock on the 15W-50 around here. I have
gotten into the habit of checking the two Supercenters in the area online
about once a week, and when they have it I buy a couple of jugs.
 
 With three MBs running the stuff I can't afford to run out.
 
 Dan
 
 Sent from my iPad
 
 
 
 
 On Jul 16, 2014, at 2:49 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Says out of stock online
 
 About what I'm paying for Car Quest full synthetic 5w40 which carries the
VW spec the Jetta wants. I've more or less standardized on that for most
everything although the 190D is still running M1 since I had a gallon at its
last change interval.
 
 -Curt
 
 
 
 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com 
 Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 2:43 PM
 Subject: [MBZ] Mobil 1 $23 at Wally World
 
 
 It's the best oil for your Mercedes
 

http://www.walmart.com/browse/motor-oil,-transmission-fluid-car-lubricant/mo
tor-oil/mobil-1/91083_1104294_1072084/YnJhbmQ6TW9iiaWwgMQieie?_refineresult=
true
 
 --R
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

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Freeway tolls...isn't that an oxymoron???

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Tolls in Oklahoma

I was looking on Google Maps today for the route from Los Alamos to Elkhart
and noticed some of the freeways around Oklahoma have tolls.

How much are those tolls?

Does it make any sense to avoid them if you are in a group driving three
vehicles?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Two weeks with the MotoX

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I recently bought a used Samsung Galaxy II with Jelly Bean OS.  I am amazed
at the accuracy of the voice-to-text capability of Android.  I never type or
swipe anything for text messaging, and only occasionally must type
corrections when the OS misses something I've dictated.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Two weeks with the MotoX

I don't remember if I mentioned that I finally dropped the hammer on the
MotoX with Republic Wireless but I'm on my way out of my second week with
it.
Results are positive. I only have a couple minor complaints which will
probably be fixed once I know more about Android. 
The biggest positive is predictive typing and autocorrect which are vastly
superior to the iPhone 5 I had before, I've played with swipe type a little
but while its neat I don't know if I'll ever really get into it.
I LOVE the rounded back phone. Why does Apple insist on hard corners? The
front edges of my macbook pro cut my wrists too, bad design.

Republic's use of WiFi for calls has been pretty flawless. It hands off to
cellular nicely, if we didn't not have cell phones I'd consider the $5 WiFi
only option for a home phone.

Anyway, I'm still getting used to it but all things considered Apple would
have to do something amazing to lure me back to a phone that costs twice as
much with no advantages.

Curt

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Re: [MBZ] CVs, was BMW 325 Station Wagon

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My son and I both have Crown Vics.  His is a 97 and mine a 95.  They are
good highway cruisers but do not handle as well as a MB.  Expect mid 20s in
MPG for those vintages.  The engineering is good and the power adequate.
Mine has the digital dash with excellent climate control.  Some years had
some flaws, the 97 had a plastic coolant crossover which leaked, was
replaced with the alloy one.  Good engine longevity.  And, despite scary
reports the insurance companies rate them very high for safety.  When we
bought these they were very cheap compared to Japanese iron.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, August 31, 2014 3:35 PM
To: Kaleb C. Striplin; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW 325 Station Wagon

I thought some listers had said they had known of problems?  But it's 
possibly I am remembering wrong.   I know someone had trouble with a GL 
costing big $$s to repair.If I am mistaken about the quality I would 
consider gladly both the ML and R with diesels I like both with a
reference for the R Diesel.

Speaking of disposables - I have been looking at Crown Vics - they get
surprising gas mileage, are everywhere and many of the privately owned
models were well cared for.  CV's used as police cars are everywhere but 
maintenance can be spotty.MPGs are reported in the mid to upper 20's 
US.

Of course with Dan's appraisal of late W140s I  would consider a 140 over
the CVs.

I suspect there are many on (and off) this list that find themselves in the
same boat, i.e., wanting a newer car, preferably diesel, but concerned with
MBs quality problems.  For me, the MBs made from roughly
98-11 would be ones I would consider with the newer of that range
(06-11) would be approaching too expensive for me.  So my biggest quality
concerns would focus on the models from 98 to 05 since that 
would be my target range based on price.   I know that pushes the 140 
off the list, technically, but i would naturally consider an especially
attractive 140 from a price and mileage POV.

BTW, I know I mentioned a BMW Wagon in my earlier post, but I've heard a lot
about expensive shop bills and poor quality for BMWs as well.

Thanks for all the help gang -

LarryT


On 8/30/2014 7:46 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:
 What makes you think the ml or r is not well made?

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 On Aug 30, 2014, at 4:05 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 So, the ML and R are not very well made it sounds?Eventually we're
going to need a newer car.  I would like to stay with MB but the decline in
quality has me worried.Maybe I should look at Hyundai?   Their 10
yr/100K warranty looks attractive,

 What about VW ?

 Thanks,
 Larry


 On 8/30/2014 10:16 AM, LarryT via Mercedes wrote:
 Hi Gang,
 Anyone have knowledge of mid 00's 325 wagon in exc shape?  saw t at
a closed dealer and don't know the year or miles.   My concern is problem
areas and life expectancy as i tend to keep cars for a long time.   Have
also been looking at MB R Class Diesel and ML Diesel. Was considering a '07
R class for $10K until i saw the mileage was 276K!  That's more than our 91
300D which only has 236k.  But at this time I'm just looking.

 Thoughts?
 LarryT
 91 300D
 78 240D
 74 911
 66 MGB

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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Many years back I found an Ohaus triple beam in a local thrift shop for
about $15.  Needless to say I glommed it.  As a former Chem major and lab
tech I have an obsession for precision measuring instruments.  Yet most of
my weighing is done on a classic vintage Soehnle kitchen scale; most
recently used for weighing flour for the breadmaker and fish and dry cure
for smoking.  It's plenty accurate for those uses, and the tare function is
perfect for adding different types of flour right into the breadmaker can.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

 does anyone use vintage scale to recommend?
 anyone want to sell decent scale/balance?
 i see swiss made 50g scales but they fetch $$.
 thanks.

I always liked the 2610 gram triple beam Ohaus. (need accessory weights to
go over 610g)
http://www.ebay.com/itm/OHAUS-Triple-Beam-Balance-Ink-Scale-/121421705001?pt
=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item1c454c2f29


It pivots on what look to be agate bearings.
The factory shipping carton held the pan up on a styrofoam platform IIRC so
that 
the bearings didn't get hammered. If I bought a used one to have shipped to
me, 
I'd make them put pieces of rubber hose or something over the steel
triangles 
that sit on the stone bearings.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

The model I have is the one that was recommended by America's Test Kitchen 
(Cooks' Illustrated), but I believe they had just shifted production to China.  
The build quality seems very good and it has lasted for years with frequent 
use.  Some Chinese made products have excellent quality control, such as the 
ThinkPad I'm typing on now.  Others...not so much.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2014 5:50 PM
To: Greg Fiorentino; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] vintage precision scale

Greg wrote:
 Yet most of
 my weighing is done on a classic vintage Soehnle kitchen scale...


There's a name to chase - Soehnle - thanks.
Is your Soehnle made in Germany?
One digital Soehnle online is:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/351157394861
I need less than 100g so this is really all I need:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/221536204973
The primary objective is nothing china.
To attain this objective means I search vintage.
This is why I started this thread.  Someplace online talked about vintage 
digital scales and the types of scales.  It was mentioned that some vintage 
digital scales need capacitors replaced.  Does anyone have experience with 
these vintage scales and capacitor failure?
Thanks.
mao


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Re: [MBZ] New Ride

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Nice!

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Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2014 5:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] New Ride

Dang list strips out attachments.  Let's try it with Dropbox links:

Car:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/7nc3u6nrwzc5yky/IMG_0567.jpg?dl=0

Detailing engine compartment:

Before:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/a5756fe0b84q3b1/IMG_0559.jpg?dl=0


After:  https://www.dropbox.com/s/njhf6v89mg9s03l/IMG_0566.jpg?dl=0



On Sep 4, 2014, at 7:57 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 Added to the stable this week.  1998 S420, champagne, palomino leather,
264k.  Just gave it the partial Martha treatment as time is limited right
now.  Wash, clay bar, waxed yesterday afternoon.  Detailed the engine
compartment this morning and applied MB weatherstripping lube to all of the
seals.
 
 Dang, I love W140s.  And wouldn't you know, I go to move the SL500 out of
the garage this morning and I have a rather nasty tapping sound coming from
the right side of the engine.  I would suspect cam oiler tubes, but I
replaced them a number of months back with the factory cast aluminum ones.
I think the car is miffed because there's someone new in town
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

At the risk of asking a stupid question, if it's a 4WD, why the need (and
expense!) of adding an LSD?

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

BTW, congrats on the nice-looking truck!

Greg

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Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 05, 2014 11:28 AM
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Subject: [MBZ] OT: The secret revealed

Today's trip to the Dodge dealer was a success and I returned with this:

http://i843.photobucket.com/albums/zz353/curtludwig/IMG_20140904_163905569_z
psjlcqf19w.jpg

2010 Dodge 1500, 4 door (all the extended cab Dodges are 4 doors now), 5.7l
v8, 4wd, 5spd auto. We had tried a brand new one on Sunday and while we
liked it I just didn't want to pay that much money. This one was
considerably cheaper than new and only has 75,000 miles. 

Anyway, goodbye rusty Ranger, hello fullsize truck goodness. Now if I need
to drag a car home I can do it with confidence. The Dodge is rated 1mpg
better on the highway than the Ranger. It'll be interesting to compare fuel
economy on long trips. The best I could ever squeak out of the Ranger was
19mpg, the Dodge is rated at 18 so it should at least hit 20mpg. Its geared
higher and should do well on the highway.

I do plan a couple upgrades, you'll notice the front end is very close to
the ground, its going to get a 2 leveling kit, maybe a new, smaller bumper
and probably a limited slip differential. 

I'm debating what to get for a diff, I'm debating between a Detroit TruTrac
or an ARB air locker. The TruTrac is gear only, doesn't require friction
modifiers and is half the cost of an ARB while the ARB would give better
offroad performance and the option of a front locker if I wanted to get
really serious.

-Curt
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Re: [MBZ] N

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Perhaps, but only a vanishingly small number are murdered by people who are
legally entitled to possess a firearm.  And more are killed by baseball bats
than long guns.

Greg

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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 12:16 PM
To: G Mann; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] N


*The big picture:*

  * Every year in the U.S., an average of more than 100,000 people are
shot, according to The Brady Campaign To Prevent Gun Violence
 
http://www.bradycampaign.org/xshare/Facts/Gun_Death_and_Injury_Stat_Sheet_3
-Year_Average_FINAL.pdf.
  * Every day in the U.S., an average of 289 people are shot. Eighty-six
of them die: 30 are murdered, 53 kill themselves, two die
accidentally, and one is shot in a police intervention, the Brady
Campaign
 
http://infocenter.nbcuni.ge.com/ResearchTopic/IssuesControversies/GunViolen
ceFacts.html reports.
  * Between 2000 and 2010, a total of 335,609 people died from guns --
more than the population of St. Louis, Mo. (318,069), Pittsburgh
(307,484), Cincinnati, Ohio (296,223), Newark, N.J. (277,540), and
Orlando, Fla. (243,195) (sources: CDF
 
http://www.childrensdefense.org/child-research-data-publications/data/state
-data-repository/protect-children-not-guns-key-facts-2013.pdf,
U.S. Census http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/index.html; CDC
http://webappa.cdc.gov/sasweb/ncipc/mortrate10_us.html)
  * One person is killed by a firearm every 17 minutes, 87 people are
killed during an average day, and 609 are killed every week.
(source: CDC)

*Homicides by weapon:*

  * Handguns comprised 72.5 percent of the firearms used in murder and
non-negligent manslaughter incidents in 2011; 4.1 percent were with
shotguns; 3.8 percent were with rifles; 18.5 percent were with
unspecified firearms.


I still think that bullet proof shelving should be installed in all retail
stores for the protection of the people.

RB


On 09/09/2014 11:48 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:
 You are kidding right?  With the price of groceries these days you 
 need an armed guard to carry all the money TO the grocery store and to 
 carry the one bag of groceries your total pay can buy FROM the grocery
store..

 I live in Arizona, where it is both legal and common to carry discrete 
 or openly, no restrictions. It is quite common to meet other shoppers 
 who, like me are armed. No one except the criminals or some back east 
 visitors who are gun phobic  worry about it. I shop Krogers [branded as
Frys
 here] often. There have been no robberies and no gang assaults in the 
 parking lot either.

 Welcome to America, where your right to self defense is an act of God, 
 not government. Government just recognizes that fact along with the 
 other God given rights listed in the Constitutional Amendments.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 You lost me there.

 On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:17 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Those guys that got the beat down by the group of youths would 
 probably support the idea.

 --R


 On 9/9/14 11:56 AM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

 I wonder how Kroger will react to that petition taking them to task 
 for allowing shoppers to carry guns in their supermarkets


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Re: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I did this a long time ago on a Volvo 122S with success, so it could not
have been too difficult; but back then such parts kits were readily
available.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Meade
Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 10:20 AM
To: Mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] Rebuilding an alternator

The alternator on my '87 300TD is dead.  I've tried a new voltage regulator,
that did not help.

Could there be something relatively easy to test and replace?  I'm going to
have some time soon, and if I can spend a couple hours testing and fixing,
I'd prefer to do that rather than purchase a new alternator.

--
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Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] N

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I notice that the article focuses on the victims only.  Wouldn't any attempt
to solve the problem need to focus on the perpetrators rather than the
victims?  Why is it only GUN violence that we wish to combat?  Why not
attack VIOLENCE as the root problem rather than focus only on guns?

Remember that before guns existed rule was by the class of professional
fighters such as knights and samurai who spent their lives training.  Look
at history and see that democracy and firearms evolved concurrently.
Without firearms the thugs rule.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 8:42 AM
To: Randy Bennell; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] N

Here's an interesting new study on gun violence, and associated costs, by
the Urban Institute:

http://blog.metrotrends.org/2014/08/costs-gun-violence-hospital-price-tag/




On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 11:35 AM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Probably true but you know what they say about statistics.

 And, I assume your odds of dying in gun violence are a lot higher in 
 the USA than they are in Canada.

 RB

 On 09/09/2014 7:02 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 More people die of:
 Heart disease (by almost a factor of 20) and Medical Mistakes.

 Statistically speaking your chance of dying in gun violence is 
 astonishingly small.

 -Curt


 



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Re: [MBZ] N

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Dude, that was like...2 years ago!

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 12:24 PM
To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] N

That's ancient history.

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

 What anti-gun laws?


 Possession of handguns by non-government employees was totally banned 
 in both District of Criminals and Chitcago for decades before recently 
 being overturned by the Supreme Court. And by totally banned, I mean 
 they considered it a felony to have one inside your home that you 
 never took anywhere.
 OTOH, if you were an anti-gun newspaper writer, it was not only OK to 
 have a handgun, you could shoot a kid for swimming in your pool 
 without permission and not face charges. (Carl Rowan)

 Most people would consider that an anti-gun law.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, and whether 
it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle.  As Andrew so 
aptly put it: ... a nerdy topic...  which contrary to Andrew's analysis 
(...of no interest to the rest of the gathering.) is obviously of interest to 
many of the members of this list, with only a relatively few either 
uninterested or upset by mentioning weapons.  Actually, firearms are much 
closer to Mercedes content than are apple trees; since they are both the 
pinnacle of mechanical technology of their time.  I have a (Canadian) friend 
who happens to be an engineer who works for the Mercedes truck division who, 
though not a gun owner, has confessed an obsession with the mechanical 
perfection of the M1911.

This list thrives on nerdy O/T discussions!

I think the M4 is the carbine version of the M-16.  I am unsure what is the 
designation of the civilian equivalent.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dwight Giles 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 7:18 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

I guess I should be more specific  more permissive. I would like to stop what 
you call political tripe  not apple trees or BMW.  Yes I can delete IF listers 
use correct headings. My question is why should I have to. DAN- Mr moderator 
What do you say?
On Sep 16, 2014 10:05 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 ‎Original Message
 From: Dwight Giles via Mercedes
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:23 PM
 To: Hendrik and Fay; Mercedes Discussion List Reply To: Dwight Giles
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

 I  AM trying to stifle discussion that is not MB or car related and  
 is just political rants of any persuasion.  I joined this  list in 
 2002 for Mercedes content.  Rant off.

 While not car related, I do enjoy occasional apple tree discussions, 
 woodworking discussions, tractor discussions, generator discussions,  etc.
 There is a vast wealth of knowledge here on this list and to limit the 
 topics to Mercedes only would be stifling to the transference of 
 intelligence and information to all. I could live without the 
 occasional political tripe, but I overlook it, because of the 
 abundance of good intellectual conversation on other subjects.
 ‎
 I need to finish cleaning out my garage, so I can work on these old 
 Mercedes, and buy some parts from Jabba. (MB content.)

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Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Mortadella!

Take THAT!:-)


Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 10:19 AM
To: Rick Knoble; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fw: Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

 Should have beenn bologna despite what spellcheck thinks.

On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 10:36 AM, astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Balogna

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 Wednesday, 17 September 2014, 01:16AM -0400 from Rick Knoble via 
 Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com:

 Original Message
 From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
 Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:21 PM
 To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
 Reply To: Greg Fiorentino
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Carbine Digest, Vol 106, Issue 71

 Actually, the discussion was mainly about nomenclature of an AR-15, 
 and whether it is properly called a carbine, a rifle, or an assault rifle.

 Actually, firearms are much closer to Mercedes content than are apple 
 trees; since they are both the pinnacle of mechanical technology of 
 their time.

 I'm not opposed to discussing hardware, be it small arms, watches, 
 washing machines, iPhone, or ‎Mercedes.

  Just don't mix in emotion, and or politics.

 Rick
 Sent from my BlackBerry 10 smartphone.

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Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IIRC the B2 piston is a component in a W123 auto trans that enables a shift.
It may be a part of other trans as well.

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 8:36 AM
To: Jim Cathey; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] We interrupt your politics to talk about: A car!

B2 piston - whazzat for?

On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:19 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Nice. Now what about the Chicken Wagon? :)


 Still needs a B2 piston.  (Probably.)  It might end up being my winter 
 beater, which means that I'd need to get it running again!  My indy's 
 window for engine swaps (Frankenheap) is in the January timeframe.  
 Not useful for this year...


 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hmmm...I see Italy is tied with Ukraine and is 2 points below Nigeria and
Palestine.  Yemen is 3 points ahead of Italy.  I'm thinking there might be
something wrong with their methodology.  Iran has almost double the score of
Italy!  I'm surprised that Iranians weren't afraid to say they are happy.
You can be flogged and jailed for happiness there:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tg5qdIxVcz8

Greg

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Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 12:10 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries

Spoiler alert:  USA is no. 14

Some in the top 10 I found hard to believe.

http://www.care2.com/greenliving/the-top-10-happiest-countries.html
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Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

toltecs...?  Are they (or the remnants of their culture) still around?
I thought they were gone long before the Aztecs.

Greg

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Hurst via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, September 20, 2014 7:48 PM
To: clay; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: The 10 Happiest Countries

toltecs are the bomb, man

On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:56 PM, clay via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 The locals are fairly content in Central America.   Honduras and Nicaragua
 have been unhappy for ages.  El Salvador has increase joy since the 
 military has backed down, but gangs are a problem.  Guatemala has had 
 issues, but even in the middle of a crap storm, the locals are 
 generally content.  Genetic predisposition from my experience.  Not 
 the street level gangster warriors the Aztecs were.  Mayans, for some 
 reason, have a Buddhist balance of the universe air about them.


 clay

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 On Sep 20, 2014, at 12:40 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

  Yes, somebody must be lying.  I thought the reason why all those 
  children from Guatemala and El Salvador were crossing our border was 
  because those and other countries in Central America were such Hell
holes...
 
  Max Dillon,
  Charleston SC
 
  On Sep 20, 2014 3:10 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  
  mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Spoiler alert:  USA is no. 14
 
  Some in the top 10 I found hard to believe.
 
 
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[MBZ] O/T: Chess

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hi:

 

Is there anyone on the list who likes to play chess?  I played as a kid, but
only (mostly) knew how to move the pieces.  I am really enjoying it!  I am
currently playing one of my sons (the one who owns a Mercedes) and one of
his friends on chess.com.  I have played a few games already, and am
learning a lot.  Let me know.  Perhaps we can play.

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Dan:

It sounds like you would be closer to my class of player than Tom (yes, very
impressive story!).  Let me know if you would like to try a game.  It is
rigorous exercise for the mind!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 7:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] O/T Chess

That's pretty cool, Tom.  While no more than a very casual chess player who
hasn't played since high school, I enjoyed hearing the story.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 23, 2014, at 9:46 AM, toms cat1 via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Greg,
 
 I have played a lot of chess over the years, but I just don't have time
anymore.  I do love the game, but I hate 2 dimensional  computer chess.  I
much prefer playing over the board against a live opponent.   I will not
play online.  Years ago, I played at a local club, regional tournaments,
etc, and I had an official USCF Rating, long since lapsed from disuse
however.:)
 
 My claim to fame, however, is that in March 1964, I had the honor of being
crushed in a simultaneous exhibition match in Westerly RI by the 6 Time
Reigning US Champion, a fella named Bobby Fischer.  Eight years later he
became World Champion.  
 
 I recorded the game in my Chess Scorebook at the time.  It is funny to see
you mention this today, because I have just corresponded 3 days ago with
International Master John Donaldson, who is currently writing another book
on Bobby Fischer.  He previously published a book (among others) called  A
Legend on the Road:  Bobby Fischer's 1964 Simultaneous Exhibition Tour.
The Westerly exhibition is discussed in the book, including a game (Stanley
King) that Bobby lost there.  He won 44 games, drew 2 and lost 1.  When
Stanley King died 38 years later (2002), his obituary noted that he beat
Bobby Fischer that day in Westerly! 
 
 :)
 
 Donaldson is going to include my game  in his new book.  I should mention
that, as I reviewed the game, I found that a number of my moves were
cringe-worthy.  :)  But it is what it is, and I was young at the time.  
 
 And really, how many guys do you know that can say that they got crushed
by Bobby Fischer!  
 
 :)
 
 He was actually a quiet, shy and very polite 21 year old throughout the
afternoon.  And it made me a die-hard Fischer fan, although his later years
were very sad and troubling.
 
 Enjoy the game!  I still do the daily chess puzzle religiously in the
local paper, btw, but that is about it.  
 
 Tom Schuch
 Connecticut

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Re: [MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that chess is an aliens game

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Wow!  Chess came from outer space!  Who knew?

Greg

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via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 9:58 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Head of world chess says he was abducted by aliens and that 
chess is an aliens game


Has anyone kept up with a chess tournament in St. Louis where a top player has 
demolished other top players in an amazing series of wins?

http://www.theweekinchess.com/chessnews/events/2nd-sinquefield-cup-2014/caruana-wins-the-sinquefield-cup-with-two-rounds-to-spare-but-allows-carlsen-to-escape-with-a-draw

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/fabiano-caruana-is-doing-the-impossible-at-chesss-most-competitive-tournament/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fabiano_Caruana

Matches where the world champ is defeated by another grandmaster are 
interesting, but this is unheard of.


Here is another interesting situation in current world chess:

Kirsan Ilyumzhinov – who controls world chess (FIDE) - claims to have been 
abducted by aliens.  He was re-elected in the battle for control of world 
chess.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov

Ilyumzhinov has drawn world-wide attention for claiming personal contact with 
aliens, alleging that they took him on a mystical tour of the galaxy in their 
spaceship in 1997.[6][7] A Chess Notes feature article by Edward Winter 
provides a comprehensive collection of Ilyumzhinov's own words on his alleged 
encounters with aliens.

 President Kirsan Ilyumzhinov tells of his invitation to an alien spaceship:

‘It happened on 17 September, I remember, in Moscow; it happened in my 
apartment.

... I was taken from my apartment in Moscow and taken to this spaceship, 
and we went to some star. After that I asked “Please bring me back” because the 
next day I should be back in Kalmykia, to Elista, and go to the Ukraine. They 
said, “No problem Kirsan you have time.”

They are people like us. They have the same mind, the same vision. I talked 
with them. I understand we are not alone in this whole world. We are not unique.

I am not a crazy man ... but after that when I gave the first interview to 
Radio Freedom in Russia five years ago thousands, not hundreds, thousands of 
people wrote me letters and called me on the phone saying “Kirsan, you are a 
politician and you aren’t afraid to speak about it.” From the United States 
every year, it is an official statistic, more than four thousand people are 
contacted in such a way. My theory is that chess comes from space. Why? Because 
the same rules, 64 squares, black and white, and the same rules in Japan, in 
China, in Qatar, in Mongolia, in Africa. The rules are the same. Why? I think 
it seems maybe it is from space.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirsan_Ilyumzhinov 

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/russia/11026510/Garry-Kasparov-loses-battle-for-control-of-world-chess-to-alien-abductee.html

...
Gerrywho doesn't have time for chess anymore.



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IIRC there are some digital cameras that never had an IR filter.  I recall
using one of mine to check if one of my IR remotes was working properly.
But I think that an actual IR camera has different sensors.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 7:30 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Cheap IR Camera

Can't you just disassemble a digital camera and take the IR filter out?

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Sep 25, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Tim Crone via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I read this review of a neat little 206x156 IR camera, yours for only 
 $199.  This is rather shockingly cheaper than I've seen such a gadget 
 before, but according to the review it works reasonably.  He has a 
 nice video of his car (appears to be an Infiniti, hence OT) warming up.
 
 http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/09/25/hands-on-with-the-199-seek-the
 rmal-smartphone-infrared-camera-yes-really-actually-this-is-amazing/
 
 Unfortunately I have no use for it at the moment, but it's nice to 
 know that such things are available.  Maybe I'll develop a possible 
 exhaust leak someday soon... :)
 
 Best,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

If the line has fittings on the ends, I doubt that the spring type tool will
fit over the fittings.  But I agree that you need something to avoid kinks.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 1:44 PM
To: 'John Reames'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines

I haven't done this job but I think you want to use a tool so you don't kink
the line.  I've seen two kinds,  One is like a conduit bender where you bend
the line around a circular form.  The other is like a spring that fits over
the tube to prevent kinking.  I can't recommend which is best.

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
 John Reames via Mercedes
 Sent: Friday, September 26, 2014 3:57 PM
 To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mercedes brake lines
 
 Do you end up needing any tools to bend them or are they soft enough 
 to bend by hand without crushing?
 
 
 
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  On Sep 26, 2014, at 15:17, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  Always been that way.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Sep 26, 2014, at 2:54 PM, John Reames via Mercedes
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  FYI, when you order them they are not bent in the proper shapes; 
  you
 have to do that yourself!
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I guess I'm missing some good, clean fun by screening my calls.

Greg

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Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, September 27, 2014 2:35 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Having fun with malicious people

I get those guys calling every now and then too, clearly from India.  I have
on different calls started crying about the fact my computer is going to get
destroyed, kept them going by asking how they know and they say they get
messages, then I tell them I only run apples, then they hang up.  On one
call I yelled out, You clean up the blood then we can drag the body out
when I finish this call.  I love screwing with those guys and gals, but I
feel sorta bad for them as most of them probably have more education than
most of our population in the US.

I was wondering about the NSA aspect too, hell I would pay some more 
taxes if there was a box to check[] Send money to NSA to catch phone 
spammers  Write amount here $__

--R


On 9/27/14 5:11 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:
 A little while ago, I got a call from the Windows Service Center
 telling me that something was wrong on my Windows computer and that I 
 had malicious software on it. I played along with the fellow for 
 several minutes, typing the keys and clicking and right-clicking on 
 things as he instructed me. He wanted me to bring up the Run window 
 by various means, starting with typing ctrl-R, then trying the start 
 menu, then clicking on My Computer on my desktop.

 When all of that didn't work, he handed me off to another fellow who 
 asked me to right-click on computer. I read him off what I found: 
 Open, Browse Folder, Cut, Copy, Make Link, Rename, Move to Trash, 
 Stretch Icon, Restore Icon's Original Size, and Properties.

 He then had me click on the start menu button. I read off what I found
 there: Accessories, Edutainment, Games, Graphics, ... He cut me off 
 and said to click on Accessories and tell him what I saw there. I read
off:
 Calculator, Character Map, Dictionary, GNU Privacy Assistant, KArm, 
 Kandy, Take Screenshot, Terminal, Vi IMproved.

 After a few seconds, he came back and asked, You run Linux? I 
 replied, Yes, and I'm so glad I can waste your time, too. He hung up.

 So why can't the NSA use their information and go after guys like this?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

FYI, the vise grips are made in non-slave labor Taiwan, not China.  IME
tools from Taiwan are usually much better than ones from China.  Also, Irwin
seems to have better quality control on their outsourced tools than some
other companies.  I have bought a couple of the Taiwan vise-grips (the micro
sized ones) and they seem good so far.  They are tools that will often work
where nothing else will!

Greg

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Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:54 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

Craig via Mercedes wrote:
 On Sun, 28 Sep 2014 09:43:04 -0400 Gary Hurst via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 cause chinese garbage is fun!
 
 So which brands are not chinese garbage?

I don't mind Chinese garbage, as long as I don't pay much more than $1/lb
for it. But I'm with Gary, if made in China carries the same price (like
Vise-Grips), I'm not buying it.

Is Balo still good?

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT FM

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I think it's a frequency FM modulator.

Greg

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Dillon via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2014 10:57 PM
To: Mercedes
Subject: [MBZ] OT FM

FM modulator.  Is that similar to a hot water heater?

Sorry, I'll shut up now...  ;)

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I don't know the answer to that.  I recently purchased the 4LN and 4LW
models from Amazon, and both packagings were marked Taiwan for country of
origin.  Perhaps other models are sourced elsewhere.  All my other vise-grip
tools are vintage USA.

To be fair:  Some of the reviewers on Amazon have complained of receiving
defective tools.  I examined mine closely upon receipt, but found them to be
undistinguishable from my US made tools in materials, fit and finish.  Since
I use Amazon Prime, I was unconcerned about the small possibility of getting
lemons since their return policy is free and painless.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mitch
Haley via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 10:36 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Vise Grips: was Brake rotors

Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
 FYI, the vise grips are made in non-slave labor Taiwan, not China.  
 IME tools from Taiwan are usually much better than ones from China.  
 Also, Irwin seems to have better quality control on their outsourced 
 tools than some other companies.  I have bought a couple of the Taiwan 
 vise-grips (the micro sized ones) and they seem good so far.  They are 
 tools that will often work where nothing else will!

When did production move to ROC?
Everything I can find on the Nebraska plant closing says the pliers went to
PRC and the unibits went to Maine about 5 years ago.

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/2008-09-04-1080343233_x.htm

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Re: [MBZ] Boots: Was Brake rotors - does brand matter?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have several pair of USA made Danner boots.  My sons also have some.  One
of my boys wore some daily on his deployment in the dessert.  IMO they are
several degrees superior to other quality brands of boots I have owned.
Fairly expensive too, north of $200 a pair but a bargain.  I would seek them
out even if their factory and store were not nearby me in Portland, OR.

Greg 

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Gary
Hurst via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 12:11 PM
To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?

living in an urban area of florida, my use for boots is so limited, but i
really do desire them in my heart.  i might someday get some wolverine 1000
mile boots and just wear them on the beach and let everyone think i'm crazy.
check em out  :)

http://www.wolverine.com/US/en-us/Product.mvc.aspx/20591M/74403

On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Have you tried Redwing boots? I've got a pair of real made in the 
 USA, again about $200 but they're super comfortable. I can wear them 
 all day with no problems. They were like that right out of the box, no 
 long break in time like lesser boots.
 I've had mine I think 4 years at this point, no noticeable wear yet 
 although I don't wear them all that much in the summer.


 -Curt


 
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 To: Gary Hurst jabbahur...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Monday, September 29, 2014 2:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Brake rotors - does brand matter?


 I am wearing chinee work boots right now, this is maybe my 3rd or 4th 
 pair, I get a coupla years out of them and with the addition of gel 
 inserts they are reasonably comfy.  $50 is good enough.  The chinee 
 dog food did kill my dog some years ago.

 --R





 On 9/29/14 1:55 PM, Gary Hurst via Mercedes wrote:
  yeah, they work good.  except when they don't.
 
  those chinese shoes from walmart sometimes work too.  but i'm still
 wearing
  alden's.
 
  and their dog food doesn't kill your dog right away every time 
  either and it really works for a long time till fido gets that 
  cancer.  i mean, it could have been second hand smoke that did him in?
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] Grosser

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

You could have champaign with your desert!

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Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2014 12:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grosser

... Or champaign.

Dan driving the S420 Land Yacht

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 On Sep 30, 2014, at 3:34 PM, Ed Booher via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Plebians! All of you! The only color for a Mercedes is Silver!
 
 EdB
 
 On Tue, Sep 30, 2014 at 3:08 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Brown is the natural color of wood and leather.  Don't you like wood 
 and leather in your car?
 
 However, I agree that in an expensive sedan, brown doesn't say 
 luxury to me.  I'd much rather have a dark blue or black or grey.
 
 Max Dillon,
 Charleston SC
 
 On Sep 30, 2014 11:27 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Since when is brown the color of luxury?   All shades of brown and tan
 are IMHO plebeian.
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Re: [MBZ] NOW Ebol-e

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Apparently this administration has looked at the idea of prohibiting flights
from affected countries, as do France and the UK, but has rejected the idea.
Also, the CDC had recommended new and stricter quarantine procedure a few
years back, but that was likewise rejected by the current administration:

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0809/25814.html

As Mao might say, we are _!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt
Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 9:27 AM
To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOW Ebol-e

Apparently they had to station a guard at the house to keep the people from
going out.
Of course the idjits at the hospital didn't bother to tell each other he'd
been to Liberia. Then gave him antibiotics which is a stupid plan anyway,
those shouldn't be given until they know its bacterial. Apparently theres
plenty of stupid in Dallas to go around. Of course I already knew that, I've
been there once.

-Curt



 From: Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com 
Sent: Friday, October 3, 2014 12:16 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] NOW Ebol-e
 

MonroviaBrusselsIADDFW

He has been horking violently the last coupla days in the apartment, 
then in front of the apartment on the way to the hospital for the second 
time, which some guys came along and hosed it down with no protective 
gear or clean-up.  Kids went to school, family moving around.

This is how it begins.

--R




On 10/3/14 11:50 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 There was nothing in the news reports that I saw about his flight stopping
 at Dulles. Where did you see that?


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Re: [MBZ] Surgery [was: Re: R-12 versus R-134]

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Resist the urge to go cold turkey off those powerful pain meds.  Silly me,
after I had both knees replaced at once I decided I could handle the pain
and wanted to be off the drugs.  You need to taper off or you will feel
really sick.

Greg

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Craig via Mercedes wrote:

 P.S. I didn't experience the old saw with my neck surgery because I was
  on an on-demand morphine drip -- too far tripped out to notice or
  care!

The nurse forced two Hydrocodone/Acetaminophen on me an hour and a half
after I woke up.
Is this like Tylenol 3?
It's a lot stronger
Let's start with one then
You get two

I never noticed ANY difference from taking that stuff.
It hurt before she gave it to me, it hurt the same after.

And there I was thinking that with Laparoscopy I wouldn't have much
post-surgery pain. Even the little incision hurts like crazy when I stand
totally erect which puts a little tension on it.
Right now, just sitting here, the repaired hernia is what hurts. Slightly
more than the hernia itself ever did without the narcotics.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transferring long videos from my Android cellphone to computer

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

On some phones you get an option when you hook up USB of charge only vs.
connect as external drive.  Once you can see the storage of the phone you
can transfer files.

OR you can do a file transfer via Bluetooth.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT: Transferring long videos from my Android cellphone to
computer

I have some awesome videos on my LG Optimus phone that I cannot transfer via
email attachment, unless I break them into bits, because hey exceed 1
minute.  There has to be a way to do this via USB cable.  Anyone BTDT?
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Re: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - PHUC YEN

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Please continue any and all such tales.  I very much enjoy the tales, and
also your writing style.  I especially appreciate that all this stuff comes
from the very center of the NO BS ZONE!

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - non-political B-52 tale - PHUC YEN


Another non-political B-52 tale:

PHUC YEN
By Wilton Strickland

By December 13, 1972, my B-52 (Big Ugly Fat Fellow - BUFF) crew from
Kincheloe AFB, MI, had completed our normal six-month temporary duty tour
flying Operation Arc Light bombing missions from Guam and U-Tapao, Thailand
to Vietnam.  We had spent about half the time flying out of Guam, the other
half flying from Thailand.  Because our gunner had already had several other
Arc Light tours and there was not a significant shortage of gunners in the
theater, he was allowed to return home.  Officially, our crew was no longer
there, but the five officers on the crew were held for several more days to
fly extra missions as individual substitutes on other crews.  Co-pilot, EW
(electronic warfare officer) and I chose to return to Thailand to fly the
extra missions.
The original plan for the trip home, 'til we were extended, had been for
us to fly a bomber from Guam to the Boeing Plant at Wichita, KS, about 14 or
15 Dec.  After we were extended, though, the plan was for us to go home on a
Kincheloe KC-135 tanker about 23 or 24 Dec.  The tanker would be flying from
U-Tapao to Guam the night of 23 Dec.
I wanted to fly the extra missions from Thailand, because the mission
length from Thailand was less than a third that from Guam, and I also had a
new microwave oven and a motorcycle in boxes in a storage room on Guam that
I wanted to take home.  I had planned to take the items home in the BUFF,
but now that I was going to be a passenger on a tanker, and because a weight
limit had recently been placed on passenger luggage, I had to work out a way
to get my excess included with the tanker crew's stuff.  I could do that
much more easily if I traveled from Thailand to Guam with them before going
on to Michigan.
After returning to U-Tapao, I temporarily joined a crew from Westover
AFB, MA.  The captain I was replacing was back home being treated for high
blood pressure.  (My blood pressure was about to get a significant boost!)
By Dec 18, I had flown three very routine and uneventful missions to targets
just south of the 20th parallel in North Vietnam with this crew.
Things began to change drastically, though, on Dec 18th.  Because we had
not flown our normal daily schedule of a cell of three bombers taking off
every hour throughout the day on the 18th, we BUFF crewmen suspected
something bigger must have been coming.  By noon, when schedules were posted
for nearly 50 crews to attend pre-mission briefings in late afternoon and 
early evening, we knew something big was up.   When the curtains were drawn 
to reveal our targets at the beginning of our pre-mission briefing, we knew
we were finally going to fight the Vietnam War the way most of us thought it
should have been done years before.  Forty two B-52D's from U-Tapao and
eighty nine B-52D's and G's from Guam were going to attack strategic targets
in and around Hanoi that night - we were finally going to take the war
home to the North Vietnamese government.  We were going to destroy their
war-making capacity - petroleum production and storage facilities, assembly
plants, rail transshipment yards, power production and transmission systems,
communications and command and control systems, airfields, surface-to-air
missile (SAM) storage and launch sites, and much more.  These facilities and
systems were vital to the enemy's war effort and had contributed directly to
the loss of many American and South Vietnamese lives throughout the war. 
Many of these potential targets, however, had been off limits to attack by
American airmen for most of the war.  This was the opening night of
Linebacker II, called by many The Eleven-Day War, the no-holds-barred
bombing campaign which finally persuaded the North Vietnamese to negotiate a

settlement ending US involvement in the war. Immediately, during the 
pre-mission briefing, though, several of us saw possible serious problems
with the tactics.  All bombers were going in-trail (one behind the other) at
the same altitude (35,000 to 36,000 feet) northbound along the same route
about 150 nautical miles (NM) west of Hanoi to a point about 100 miles
northwest of the city before turning southeast and splitting off to go to
separate targets in and around Hanoi.  Long before we could get to this
major turning point, the enemy air defense forces would know our spacing and
altitude - part of their gunnery/firing problem was already solved before we
turned inbound toward the targets.
My crew's target was Phuc Yen airfield about 10 

Re: [MBZ] Test

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I read you 5X5.

Greg

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Test

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Re: [MBZ] ?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Oh Kleb, you are SO 2013!  Now it's ISIS, Ebola, and DACA + EV-D68.
(Including the Oxford comma).

Please take this to BANNED for any substantive replies!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] ?

How about Obama abortion and gun control to liven things up?

Sent from my iPhone

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 And your question was?
 
 Quiet day. Mondays often are
 
 crickets
 
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wrote:
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Is it dead?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Must be we need YAOT (Yet Another Oil Thread).

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Is it dead?



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[MBZ] O/T Fusion Reactor

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lockheed-claims-breakthrough-on-fu
sion-energy1/

 

Only 10 years away?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] Time for an Alternator Check?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

If the battery has a bad cell it wouldn't give you 12.5 V, would it??

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Time for an Alternator Check?

Seems like it.

On a errand today the S420's battery light came on.

Got home and put a meter to the battery at rest - 12.5 VDC. Good.

Checked the voltage at the terminals with the engine both at idle and
running at 1500-2000 rpm. 11.84 VDC.

I'm thinking the alternator is done, at least maybe the regulator/brushes.
The only other possibility would be that the battery has a bad cell?

I'm not sure what I'll do next - pull the battery and take it over to
Advance Auto and have them test it, or just crawl under the car and pop the
regulator on the alternator to check the brushes.

FWIW, the battery is a conventional MB battery and is dated 10/2008.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: how to hand crank a V4

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At one time I owned a Peugeot with a hand crank.

Greg

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIUTshlFDrQ

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Re: [MBZ] OT - another non-political B-52 tale - THE TACTICS

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Thanks Wilton!

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - another non-political B-52 tale - THE TACTICS

THE  TACTICS
By Wilton Strickland

By 22 Dec '72, for four nights in a row, nearly 100 B-52's each night
flew in-trail (one behind the other) at 35,000 to 36,000 feet at 450 knots
true airspeed (TAS) (with a tailwind of about 100 knots) to an initial point
(IP) 90 nautical miles northwest of Hanoi where they accelerated to 470
knots and turned southeast and split off to go their respective targets in
and around Hanoi.  The plan also required straight and level flight (no
evasive maneuvers) from IP to target, turn west, immediately decelerate to
450 knots after release and withdraw against a headwind of nearly 120 knots.

The aircraft were grouped into cells of three each with spacing of 15
seconds between each aircraft within the cell and 1 minute between cells.
This gave the enemy air defense system plenty of time to track and fire
on each aircraft as it came within range and get ready for the next one. 
Long before we got into the target area, the enemy already knew our exact
altitude, speed, spacing and approach route - a large part of their
acquisition and tracking problem had already been solved for them by
American staff planners.  During withdrawal, the combination of deceleration
to 450 knots, the turn into the 120-knot headwind and evasive maneuvers
(zigzagging) to evade the many SAMs fired at us, resulted in a straight line
ground speed of significantly less than 300 knots, drastically increasing
our exposure time.  Several B-52's were being shot down every night, except
the second night.  Three had been lost on the 18th, six on the 20th, and two
on the 21st.
North Vietnamese gunners later confirmed that it was relatively easy to
acquire their targets by just looking in the same area as the preceding one
and waiting.  Because an open bomb bay full of iron bombs reflects more
radar energy than a closed bay, they also could get a better picture of us
when bomb bay doors were opened, usually at 60 seconds before release
(time-to-go - TG).  Another more vulnerable time for the BUFF was in the
post-release turn, a procedure developed by Paul Tibbets during WW II to
enhance crew survival after a nuclear weapon release by placing the airplane
as far as possible from the detonation with the airplane straight and level
and tail to the burst at shockwave arrival and is completely irrelevant in
conventional bombing - there's no shockwave reaching our altitude.  The turn
gave a special advantage to the enemy, though, by exposing a much larger
radar cross-section, and the aircraft's electronic counter measures beam
patterns were shifted up and away to the side in the turn, allowing the
defenders to better paint their targets - the defenders later said that
returns on their scopes tended to blossom when we opened the doors and
when we made the post-release turn.
We air crewmen were damned mad about the incompetent planning.  I was
one of several crewmen who questioned and protested such tactics almost
immediately.  I stood during the pre-mission briefing at U-Tapao on the
second night of the campaign and asked, Who is planning such stupid tactics
as this, and why?
The answer given was, The planning is being done at Strategic Air
Command (SAC) Headquarters in Nebraska, and the common route and altitude
are used for 'ease of planning.'
My reply to this was to suggest that the staff weenies come and fly
some of these missions to get some ideas about how to develop better
tactics.  The North Vietnamese are using our common route and altitude, our
in-trail formation, the long open-door time, the post-release turn and our
slow withdrawal for 'ease of tracking and shoot-down.'  (This was later
confirmed by North Vietnamese gunners.)
Our 17th Air Division Commander, B/G Glenn Sullivan, sitting two rows
directly in front of me on the front row turned and looked up at me during
my question and comments.  He said nothing, but I could tell that he agreed
with me.
I adamantly maintained that we should fly as fast as possible from the
initial point (IP) through withdrawal, do evasive maneuvers as necessary
when fired upon if we could be back to straight and level at release,
approach the target from different directions and altitudes, open the doors
as late as possible, eliminate the post-release turn and withdraw to the
east over the Tonkin Gulf, taking advantage of the 100 to 120-knot tailwind
to get the Hell out of there ASAP.
Most of us who protested did so by questioning bad tactics and offering
alternatives.  Protests by some of the crewmen became much more active,
however - one pilot refused to fly, was later court-martialed and
discharged.
After flying the original in-trail tactics dictated by the weenies in
Nebraska 

Re: [MBZ] the news

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

IDK about LA, but NYC training in firearms is very poor, as is all their
equipment and training.  I trained in the same facility as they did at one
time and had the opportunity to observe them, plus heard firsthand accounts
from some of their officers.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] the news

Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
 Surprised no one has mentioned what happened in Ottawa this morning.
 
 We seem to breed pretty lousy terrorists here in Canada.
 This fellow (or these fellows) opened fire in a busy, highly populated 
 urban area and only managed to kill one person before the authorities 
 got him.
 Got to give our police some credit. They have managed to shoot 2 of 
 these characters so far this week and it is only Wednesday.

We're way off topic here, but Ottawa is a major city in Canada.
In major cities in USA, like New York and Los Angeles, police accuracy
standards require them to shoot one cop or two innocent bystanders for every
perp they shoot. In order to keep up on their shooting practice, they're
expected to fire a full 17 round magazine for every perp they shoot at.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] the news

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Chicago and DC have even stricter laws than Canada, yet have more incidents.
Switzerland has looser laws than many places in the US, yet have just as few
incidents as Canada.  Perhaps there are other factors causing large numbers
of incidents.

Greg

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Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] the news

As Randy has pointed out, there are fewer loose guns around in Canada thanks
to their gun laws, so there are fewer such incidents.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

 I heard a report on NPR's The World where an office worker from the 
 building was as freaked out as you could get considering it was a 
 pretty minor shooting all things considered. He said it had Rocked 
 Canadians to the core. I sincerely hope most Canadians are made of 
 sterner stuff. The ones I know certainly are.


 I suspect many of those living in Ottawa or Toronto are as ignorant 
 and fearful of guns as Diane Feinstein is.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Be advised that an O/U is not going to be a cheap purchase for anything that
is reasonable quality.  Barrel alignment and rib attachment are both fussy
bits of engineering and craftsmanship.  Any corrective gunsmithing on a used
O/U is going to be expensive.

Although I am not much of a skilled shotgunner, I know people who are.
People I have hunted with seem to favor the Beretta 686.  A couple of these
people could afford whatever they want, but have selected the 686 over more
expensive arms.  Another I hunted with (a native guide) up in Canada also
used the 686.  I am not being an Italian chauvinist here, as I would not
favor any of Beretta's pistols given a choice.  I have not been in the
market for one of these, but I suspect that a good price for a good used
sample would be in the $1,000.00 range (maybe more).  A good place to check
prices would be gunbroker.com.

HTH

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

Got the FIL's shotgun yesterday.  Winchester 370 single shot 12 gauge in
nearly new condition.

Took it to the local sporting clays range this morning with the youngest son
and went through a box of shells and 25 clays on the trap range.  A whopping
$20, including the rental for the safety glasses (we forgot ours in our
hurry to go...) Cheaper than a movie, louder, and lots more fun.

Had fun, I actually hit five (he hit zero, which was a big boost to my ego
as he has done much better than me in the past) and got a mildly sore
shoulder out of it along with some quality time with the boy.

We both enjoyed sporting clays in the past, and while this is a nice gun,
I'm wondering what might be a decent quality (used) over and under 12ga
shotgun for him?

Dan

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes, for sure the pumps will be very serviceable and a lot cheaper than an
O/U.  I believe the Mossberg is ok, but have a strong prejudice in favor of
the Rem. 870.  It's the preferred shotgun among the LE people, whose lives
depend on reliable performance.

I would take a look at both.

A possible source of a bargain in a 12 ga. pump is an older gun that only
takes 2 3/4 shells.  This is no handicap for a trap or skeet shooter, and
possibly a really good $ savings.  Hunters will want a gun with at least 3
chambers.  I have a Browning BPS with 3 1/2 chambers.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 3:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

I'm going to look at the Mossberg 500 All Purpose and see how that might
work out.  The range has rental guns, too, so that might be a good chance to
try a few different things out to see what would be best.

One of my former business partners is a hard core grouse hunter - he takes
off for a hunt in North Dakota every year for two weeks. He has a very
expensive over/under 12 gauge shotgun made in England that was $8,000 he
uses. We got to shoot it on a regular basis, and while it was nice, it did
the same thing a much less expensive shotgun did

Thanks to all for the info and suggestions.

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I'd stick with 12 gage as long as the gun fits the shooter.  
 Everything is harder to find and often more expensive in 20 gage.  
 Lower recoil target shells are readily available in 12 gage.  I think 
 a pump gun is more versatile (and less expensive) than a side-by-side 
 or over-under configuration.  As others have mentioned, a basic pump 
 gun (e.g.  Remington
 870 or Mossberg 500 series) can be had for a few hundred dollars, new. 
 But the sky is the limit in fancy guns.  My neighbor (competes at 
 Nationals) has guns costing over $10K.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Rich:

The expensive and tricky part of a gunstock is where it is inletted for the
barrel and receiver.  A good woodworker should be able to glue and dowel,
biscuit or screw a piece of walnut on to the existing cut-off stock and
shape it to the right fit.  It may not be as pretty as a complete new stock,
but should be perfectly functional.

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:14 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

Thanks for the info.  The problem is that he cut the stocks down pretty far
and then had the pads put on so a longer pad would be like half the length
of the whole stock, and would probably not work too well and would look
weird.  I'll have to look into it, let me know if you find out the place
your dad uses.  I'll do the googles and see what I can find.

--R

On 10/26/14 7:04 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
 There are loads of companies that make replacement stocks. My dad has 
 one he likes which I can check on if you want. Boyds maybe? There are 
 some which offer rough blanks that you can finish as you want.

 A good option if the stock is only 2-3 too short is to get an 
 adjustable butt pad, unfortunately I can't think of the name of the 
 common high end one for trap shooters. Normally when installing one 
 you cut a couple inches off the stock since its a couple inches long. 
 A good gun shop that caters to trap shooters can help measure out what 
 you want for a stock. Rifle shops won't know as much about it.

 -Curt

 
 *From:* Rich Thomas via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 *To:* mercedes@okiebenz.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, October 26, 2014 6:46 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

 On a related aspect to all this -- my FIL shot traps or skeets or
 whatever for a long time.  When he got to where he could not shoot any
 more (he had really bad juvenile rheumatoid arthritis for most of his
 life, it finally got too hard to hold the gun and he wanted safety above
 all), so he passed 2 of his guns on to us.  One is a Browning Citori and
 one I think is a Beretta, both very nice guns he had for a long time.
 I'll have to get them out and see exactly what they are.

 He shortened up the stocks on them so he could use them better given his
 arthritis, which pretty much makes them useless to anyone over about
 12yo.  I have long arms so I would want a longer than stock stock, or
 put one of those rubber ends on to extend a stock stock a bit.  I was
 thinking to redo the stocks somehow, either make new extensions (walnut,
 which I have) or just buy some new ones to put on them. They still make
 these guns so would it be easiest to contact the factory and see what
 they could do?  I would suppose a gun smith would do pretty much what I
 would do wood-wise for some big money, and I am a fairly good
 woodworker, so I could do a decent job on it myself but it would be a
 fair amount of work.  I could go to a gun shop and take some
 measurements and photos and such to get it right.

 --R


 On 10/26/14 6:23 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
  I'm going to look at the Mossberg 500 All Purpose and see how that 
 might work out.  The range has rental guns, too, so that might be a 
 good chance to try a few different things out to see what would be best.
 
  One of my former business partners is a hard core grouse hunter - he 
 takes off for a hunt in North Dakota every year for two weeks. He has 
 a very expensive over/under 12 gauge shotgun made in England that was 
 $8,000 he uses. We got to shoot it on a regular basis, and while it 
 was nice, it did the same thing a much less expensive shotgun did
 
  Thanks to all for the info and suggestions.
 
  Dan
 
  Sent from my iPad
 
  On Oct 26, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  I'd stick with 12 gage as long as the gun fits the shooter.  
 Everything is
  harder to find and often more expensive in 20 gage.  Lower recoil 
 target
  shells are readily available in 12 gage.  I think a pump gun is more
  versatile (and less expensive) than a side-by-side or over-under
  configuration.  As others have mentioned, a basic pump gun (e.g.  
 Remington
  870 or Mossberg 500 series) can be had for a few hundred dollars, 
 new. But
  the sky is the limit in fancy guns.  My neighbor (competes at 
 Nationals) has
  guns costing over $10K.
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Re: [MBZ] OT - was Shotguns, now pistols

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

For a semi-auto pistol for range shooting for a beginner, I second another
member's recommendation of a Ruger.  I own a Mark I and love it.  Another
member has stated a preference for it over the Mark II or III.  I am not
aware of any factors making these less desirable, OTOH I have read of some
improvements of the II and III over the I.

Someone else commented that 9mm ammo is more reliable than .22.  I have not
seen this to be true IME.  Although there is the occasional dud with .22s, I
have seen roughly the same percentage of 9mm and .40 cal duds on the range
with well-maintained firearms and factory fresh ammo.  With .22s I suppose
brand and QC would make a difference.

The Ruger is a great piece of engineering.  It is rugged, durable and
available in a variety of configurations.  Target sights and a bull barrel
would be more desirable for range use.  There is also a grip angle similar
to the M1911 for those who are used to or otherwise favor that grip angle.

For centerfire pistols Sig, Glock, and HK are all credible choices.  The
.40 and .45 are superior to the 9mm for social purposes.

I favor revolvers for centerfire for all but social purposes.  Semi-autos
can be fussy about powder charge and bullet profile.  If the charge is too
light the action will not cycle.  Bullets other than roundnose may not feed
well.  A revolver can work with any load that will get the bullet out of the
barrel.  It will fire semi-wadcutters and wadcutters just as easily as
roundnose.  The .357 is a highly credible defensive weapon, and can fire .38
spl. target loads too.  I suspect that handloaded .38 spl. target loads are
similar in cost to .22 ammo.  SW, Ruger, and Colt make fine revolvers.  For
imports, Taurus is also fine quality.

Greg

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Penoff via Mercedes



At the risk of going further off topic, for those of you who shoot pistols
for recreation, what would you recommend for a good beginning pistol? My
youngest is very interested in pistol shooting on a range, and I would like
to be able to provide some guidance.  I suspect something in a semiauto, not
a revolver, would be appropriate.  He's 22, 6'4, and weighs about 160 if
that, if it matters. We're not looking for power, just basic handling and
learning target practice.

Thanks!

Dan



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Re: [MBZ] Tom Magliozzi, Co-Host Of NPR's Car Talk, Has Died

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

They will be missed.  It was a great show.  I have gotten some good
recommendations from their website too.

Greg

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Subject: [MBZ] Tom Magliozzi, Co-Host Of NPR's Car Talk, Has Died

http://jalopnik.com/tom-magliozzi-host-of-car-talk-has-died-1654118951

--R


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Re: [MBZ] Tom Magliozzi, Co-Host Of NPR's Car Talk, Has Died

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I do love the smell of diesel exhaust in the morning!  But I also love the
sound of a running diesel engine.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 1:35 PM
To: 'Rich Thomas'; 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tom Magliozzi, Co-Host Of NPR's Car Talk, Has Died

Another passing of an era.  The fact they retired two years ago (and went to
edited rebroadcasts) does explain why current shows seemed somehow familiar.


I did learn a things from that show but it was mainly good entertainment.
However, I did not appreciate their attitude on Diesels: What do you like
better:  the noise or the smell?

 -Original Message-
 From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of 
 Rich Thomas via Mercedes
 Sent: Monday, November 03, 2014 2:52 PM
 To: Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: [MBZ] Tom Magliozzi, Co-Host Of NPR's Car Talk, Has Died
 
 http://jalopnik.com/tom-magliozzi-host-of-car-talk-has-died-1654118951
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Silicone or Viton O-Ring

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My unsophisticated palate is very happy with my Saeco Aroma.  I mostly use
it for Cappuccino. 

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Silicone or Viton O-Ring

Thank you everyone for info about orings.  I did not measure the groove - I
cleaned it up and put hi-temp FDA grease there and will try it tomorrow.
The ebay link I gave shows pictures of my Quickmill 0603 machine.  The
picture of the shower screen is where the oring fits a groove in the cast
aluminum thermoblock just out of sight.  The basket fits around that casting
with groove and oring.  Water is pumped through the thermoblock discharging
through the shower screen into the basket with espresso grinds.  The oring
keeps pressurized water coming out through the ground coffee instead of
blowing up into the casting.
I assume the oring must expand as it is heated?  Thanks for mention of
ChiTown MM, Frain, Cozinni, Aaron - I will be looking for those guys.
btw, where are you located, Curly?  The size difference from DASH size
versus metric doesn't seem to be significant, does it?  I measured with
vernier caliper not precisely, thinking that a tad large/small would not
matter too much?  It would seem that Quickmill in Italy could respond to
email, but I am unable to get response.  This is Quickmill 0603 machine...
if anyone wants to practice writing an italian email and contact them?? - to
find oring size and availability, thanks.
What espresso machines do other okiebenz guys use?  Dan uses Braun, I use
Quickmill  Pavoni, what do you guys use?
More OT stuff... and, thanks Wilt for fun/interesting stories.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

...and to all of you.  Some wonderful thoughts expressed by y'all.  My wife and 
my son's wonderful GF made a pumpkin pie all the way from pumpkins last night.  
We are having family here tonight and I'm loving it.  My cardiologist says all 
readings nominal and I'm feeling very blessed.

Greg

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Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 5:05 AM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: [MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!

Having been up for a couple of hours already and still not able to start in the 
kitchen due to sleeping relatives in the family room, I figured I would catch 
up on my mail.

Hope everyone has a great Thanksgiving, even the foreigners who aren’t 
observing it or have already observed it, and you enjoy the time with family 
and friends.

Don’t eat too much….

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Espresso machine

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I use various.  Son brings home a variety of *$.  Their Casi Cielo is quite 
good.  Our local Costco has a roaster in-store, and I like their Sumatra and 
various special purchases from Ethiopia and Guatemala.  We usually buy a bit of 
Kona when we go to Hawaii.  SWMBO gets tired of the same coffee all the time 
and likes to change off.  My neighbor pal obsesses on coffee and only Stumptown 
is good enough for him.

Greg

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Hey, I was just wondering - what happened to our Chicago coffee guy?

Also, for those espresso folks, I’m curious as to what people’s preferred or 
favorite brand(s) of beans are?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Espresso machine

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Lately I have been committing the blasphemy of adding 100% non-alkalized cocoa 
to my coffee, both for the flavor and the health benefits.  It has more 
healthful phytochemicals than just about anything.

Theobroma = food of the gods.

Greg

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Hey, I was just wondering - what happened to our Chicago coffee guy?

Also, for those espresso folks, I’m curious as to what people’s preferred or 
favorite brand(s) of beans are?

Dan
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[MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Listers:

 

I know that some of you are audiophiles to some degree.  So this is directed
at you.  We have an eclectic collection of LPs of all types of music.  A
while back I bought my wife (the main music lover) a cheap ION USB
turntable.  She already had a good quality component turntable, but I
figures the USB interface would make it easy to transfer vinyl to digital.
The results were so-so.  Recently she gave away the vintage quality TT to
our son, a recent convert to vinyl.

 

In addition to creating a need for a quality component, this event also
cleared a spot on our A-V components rack.  After much research and
comparison shopping, I bought an Audio-Technica AT-LP120-USB TT  from
Amazon.

 

I received this unit yesterday, and have just converted my first LP to MP3
files today. My workflow was to use the most recent version of Audacity to
convert my wife's old ELO Eldorado album to wav files on my HTPC through the
USB interface. The HTPC has a 6-core AMD FX processor and an ASUS XONAR DG
Headphone Amp  PCI 5.1 Audio Card. I then transferred the files (one for
each album side) to my ThinkPad T61 laptop running Sound Forge 10 (SF) and
equipped with a Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS PMCMCIA card. I ran the SF audio
cleaner module on the wav files, then saved them to MP3 files, all using the
default settings in SF.

I then saved the MP3s to the network HD, and am currently playing them back
through the HTPC using VLC. All I can say is that the results are totally
satisfactory! There is still a little bit of vinyl noise remaining after the
SF cleanup, but it is significantly reduced from the original recordings.
Considering that the cleanup took only a few seconds I am very impressed
with the results.

As to the turntable itself: After reading some negative reviews, I examined
the platter and all other criticized items carefully. I could notice no
warping of the platter, and all other parts of the turntable looked very
good. As an amateur machinist, I do have a stand and dial indicator. I may
gauge the runout of the platter just to see if there is any measurable
warpage that I am unable to detect visually. I am favorably impressed with
the quality and feature set considering the moderate cost of the unit. I
have read that a DIY mat made of cork or rubber will improve the sound
quality, and am pleased to see that the height of the tone arm is adjustable
to accommodate a thicker mat.

 

Since I am a rank beginner at doing this, I am curious if any of you have
experience with this activity to share.

 

Greg



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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Thanks for the FLAC tip, as Rick also mentioned.  I kind of knew that MP3
was not the best compression algorithm, but it just was the standard that
I thought of.  Sound Forge (SF) also can export FLAC files.  Doing more
research I see that I can use other commands in SF to clean up the pops and
other vinyl surface noise.  There is a plugin from iZotope that is supposed
to do an even better job.  There will be a learning curve here for sure!

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

I don't, other than to say that most of the music I currently have in
electronic form has been transcoded from analog to FLAC.  I can hear the
difference between MP3 and FLAC formats, and my hearing is pretty lousy in
one ear.




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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

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I also use EAC for ripping CDs.  Very tight and feature-rich.

Greg

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

  The EAC would be used in place of Audacity?‎

In addition to. Audacity is used to create wav (analog) files from the vinyl 
records. EAC (Exact Audio Copy) is used to convert the wav files to mp3, flac, 
etc. digital files. I have used EAC for converting (ripping) cd's to digital 
form. I have not used it to convert wav files from vinyl, but I am pretty sure 
it can be done. Currently Greg is using Sound Forge software to convert the 
analog files to digital. 

I like EAC because it was created by a German. :) 

‎And it works very well. Some audiophiles insist on have cue sheets to go along 
with their rips, and EAC will create those as well. 

If I wasn't hard of hearing, I would be more into the audiophile stuff. My 
range of hearing is somewhat limited, and I have tinnitus. 

Rick
Huh? what?
Why does everyone mumble?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

 No, he is using the turntables A/D converter to make the analog into digital 
files and recording them in Audacity.  He then makes a digital copy and edits 
that in Sound Forge.  Finally, he's using Sound Forge to compress it to an 
MP3.

Yup- but I've seen the error of my ways and have gone to FLAC.  Thanks to all.


-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of fmiser via 
Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, December 03, 2014 10:12 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Cc: Rick Knoble
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

  Curly McLain wrote:
 
  The EAC would be used in place of Audacity?‎




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Re: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have had good luck with 100% silicone spray.  Spray the key and work it in
the lock.  There may be better stuff but this is what I had handy, and has
given me lasting results.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 9:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Frozen door lock - wt*?

My W123 300TD driver's door lock (naturally) freezes up every morning.  How
would I go about addressing this issue?  Is it possible that the worn out
window glass scraper is allowing moisture (condensate) to drip down and
freeze? Or is there a blocked drain preventing moisture from leaving the
handle?  What's the diagnosis progression for this issue?

Andrew
Tired of hauling a mug of hot water outside every cold morning.
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yeah, but I have never been able to hear quality sound improvement of vinyl
over digital.  Much of our collection other than classical music has been
rode hard and put away wet.  The audio restoration software of Sound Forge
produces a remarkable improvement in the listenability of these LPs.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of G. M.
Brown via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 10:06 AM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

I can remember when I was somewhat of an audiophile that one could still
prefer vinyl over a CD played via a Mark Levinson ($25K) CD player, so I
can't relate to the interest(s) in converting to digital files.  Other than
live performances, I prefer good recordings played back via good equipment.

G. M. Brown
Brevard, NC
  
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have thought of setting up a NAS but am somewhat put off by the cost and
bulk.  Is there a compact and inexpensive solution?  I am thinking of a
Linux setup utilizing-let's say 3- 2 1/2 drives.  Does someone make a small
box for a micro-atx MB that would accommodate 3 such drives?

Greg

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Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 7:53 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Transcoding LPs to Digital

Put them on a RAID.

Dan who backs up backups

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 If you want to get rid of the LPs, you don't want to put it on ONE hard
drive.
 Nor do you want to put it on two hard drives which were made on the same
day.
 
 Mitch.
 
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Re: [MBZ] Ponomusic. Opinions?

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Pono music is simply 24-bit FLAC.  With the help of you listers I have
altered my LP transcoding workflow to produce this output.  Audacity is
capable of recording as 32-bit WAV which can then be compressed to 24-bit
FLAC.  Most modern players (including cell phones) are capable of playing
these files; making Mr. Young's $400 player a bit superfluous.  OTOH,
selling music in this format, which is higher definition than CD does make
aesthetic (if not necessarily business) sense.

For those of you who must know more, pono is (according to Wikipedia) the
Hawaiian word meaning righteousness.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2014 11:08 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Ponomusic. Opinions?

Neil's efforts are really just a way to play uncompressed audio as I
understand it. The story I heard was that he was all bent out of shape over
how poorly common compressed formats like MP3 sound.

I can't see this going anywhere myself.

Good to see you, DBV!

Dan

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mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Ponomusic ( https://ponomusic.force.com/  ) is a high def music 
 project backed by Neil Young.  Its an inline lossless digital music
player, due to ship Q1 2015 at $400 a pop.  Their library is rather limited
at the moment, but they plan on expanding rapidly as more licensing
agreements are signed with artists and publishers.  That aside, they claim
to at least attempt to improve the throughput quality of non-lossless files
-- even mp3's -- as well, meaning you don't necessarily have to buy their
remastered files for it to work, with the aforementioned caveats on output
quality. Their files are extremely dense, turning what would be a 3-4 meg
mp3 into 50-60 meg file, if memory serves. Their current players are
expandable to 128 G -- 64 G on board, with a 64 G slot So, is this a game
changer in high-def listening, or a well-intentioned but ultimately non
contributory measure to improve the art? Opinions?
 DBV, president, low budget audiophile division 
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Once again thanks to y'all for your knowledgeable input!  I looked at
Synology products but finally opted for a WD 8 TB My Cloud NAS.  The price
and small form factor were appealing, and I understand that these now are
equipped with WD red series HDDs.  My experiences with WD products has been
good in the past.  Another factor in my decision was that the WD has gigabit
Ethernet as opposed to the 100 Mb of the Synology.  This looked to me to be
the best bang for buck.  A smaller disk size would probably have worked for
my needs, but the additional cost for the larger size was not much.  The 8
TB was actually cheaper than the 6 TB.  I'm not sure that the remote access
features are needed for my family, but then I don't need to enable them.

I will provide follow up on this if any of you are interested.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:19 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

I agree with Tim.

After researching storage options to a level of detail I never planned, I
came to much the same conclusion.  If I was going with an off the shelf
solution it would be Synology.  FreeNAS was really attractive, given the
high level of configurability it offered.

Since I had an existing NAS, a DLink NAS-345 running five drives in RAID 5,
I have continued to use it.  However, realizing that a single volume RAID 5
setup did not provide the redundancy and setup I desired, I wiped it and
went to four drives in a Mirrored RAID configuration with two volumes. So I
have two separate volumes, each running on two mirrored drives.

This gives me the integrity and redundancy desired for my files for now. It
also gives me a performance gain over the previous single volume RAID 5
arrangement as well.

Not perfect, but it meets my needs. I pull the mirrors once a month and
rotate them out with another drive. The current drives go in the fire safe.

Dan


Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
 
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I copy (via automatic program) all changes to the folders I'm 
 interested in (photos, documents, music, etc.) from the primary disk 
 to a second disk in the PC, then again to an external disk. and on 
 one of our PCs, to a second external disk.. Very cheap and simple, it 
 all happens when I'm asleep, and I have three or four copies of 
 everything. when one disk dies, I just replace it, and it gets auto 
 brought up to date. I fought with SANs, NASs, and RAID at work for years,
didn't want to mess with it at home.
 
 
 I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to 
 destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a 
 bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work).  I 
 have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my 
 employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring 
 it up occasionally to do the replication.  The problem with rotating 
 storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't 
 leave it in a drawer and expect it to work.  There were some good 
 deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't have
a good plan for using them.
 
 Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend 
 keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - 
 rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares.
 
 To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low 
 noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability.  If you 
 roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go.  
 If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac 
 routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple 
 drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares.
 
 Merry Christmas to all,
 Tim
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I just received the WD NAS:  First impressions, the disks are indeed the WD
red series.  The cost of the NAS with disks was not much more than I would
have paid for the bare drives.  I will have to test the drives thoroughly as
some reviewers have experienced a high failure rate (A bad batch?  A dropped
pallet?)  The unit looks well engineered, the drives are easily removable
without tools.

Scott advised that I was mistaken on the Synology 100 Mb Ethernet; I may
have been misled by a comparison chart on Amazon.  Nonetheless I am so far
pleased.  Time will tell whether the interface and performance will be up to
expectations.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Greg
Fiorentino via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2014 1:10 PM
To: 'Mercedes Discussion List'
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

Once again thanks to y'all for your knowledgeable input!  I looked at
Synology products but finally opted for a WD 8 TB My Cloud NAS.  The price
and small form factor were appealing, and I understand that these now are
equipped with WD red series HDDs.  My experiences with WD products has been
good in the past.  Another factor in my decision was that the WD has gigabit
Ethernet as opposed to the 100 Mb of the Synology.  This looked to me to be
the best bang for buck.  A smaller disk size would probably have worked for
my needs, but the additional cost for the larger size was not much.  The 8
TB was actually cheaper than the 6 TB.  I'm not sure that the remote access
features are needed for my family, but then I don't need to enable them.

I will provide follow up on this if any of you are interested.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan
Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 8:19 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Secure Storage, was Transcoding LPs to Digital

I agree with Tim.

After researching storage options to a level of detail I never planned, I
came to much the same conclusion.  If I was going with an off the shelf
solution it would be Synology.  FreeNAS was really attractive, given the
high level of configurability it offered.

Since I had an existing NAS, a DLink NAS-345 running five drives in RAID 5,
I have continued to use it.  However, realizing that a single volume RAID 5
setup did not provide the redundancy and setup I desired, I wiped it and
went to four drives in a Mirrored RAID configuration with two volumes. So I
have two separate volumes, each running on two mirrored drives.

This gives me the integrity and redundancy desired for my files for now. It
also gives me a performance gain over the previous single volume RAID 5
arrangement as well.

Not perfect, but it meets my needs. I pull the mirrors once a month and
rotate them out with another drive. The current drives go in the fire safe.

Dan


Sent from my iPad

 On Dec 5, 2014, at 9:18 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:
 
 On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 11:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
 wrote:
 
 I copy (via automatic program) all changes to the folders I'm 
 interested in (photos, documents, music, etc.) from the primary disk 
 to a second disk in the PC, then again to an external disk. and on 
 one of our PCs, to a second external disk.. Very cheap and simple, it 
 all happens when I'm asleep, and I have three or four copies of 
 everything. when one disk dies, I just replace it, and it gets auto 
 brought up to date. I fought with SANs, NASs, and RAID at work for 
 years,
didn't want to mess with it at home.
 
 
 I used to do something similar, but recent viruses have taken to 
 destroying files in all online storage devices (then charging a 
 bitcoin ransom for the recovery key, which may or may not work).  I 
 have thought about investing in a tape drive (which is ironic given my 
 employer :) but in practice I just keep a USB disk offline, and bring 
 it up occasionally to do the replication.  The problem with rotating 
 storage is that it needs to be spinning to keep working, so I can't 
 leave it in a drawer and expect it to work.  There were some good 
 deals on 64G USB sticks last week, but I didn't buy any since I don't 
 have
a good plan for using them.
 
 Anyway, given the state of viruses, I would definitely recommend 
 keeping a solid-state backup - flash, or DVD, or an offline disk - 
 rather than depending on a system that uses Windows shares.
 
 To the original post, Synology is a good choice for low power, low 
 noise, high configurability, reasonable cost and reliability.  If you 
 roll your own, I have to agree with Dan that FreeNAS is the way to go.
 If you are willing to lose some abilities, many of the 802.11ac 
 routers have USB ports that will accept a USB drive (or even multiple
 drives) and expose Windows and NFS shares.
 
 Merry Christmas to all,
 Tim

Re: [MBZ] WW-2 Tale

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

It sounds like he was a complete real man even without half his procreation
equipment.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 3:30 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] WW-2 Tale

One testicle was shot off...

Well, to be honest, would he not been sorta half?  Kinda like Tupac, who was
actually a Wunpac after having been similarly shot in some rap
altercation...

--R

On 12/12/14 6:09 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:
 He said he went to war as a frightened home boy and came back a man;
just like many teenagers did during WW-2.

 Gerry


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Ask the seller the question.  With an email reply you will know for sure,
and can hold him to it.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Mountain
Man via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 2014 12:17 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Tweak ebay

An item said at the top $x for shipping but in the seller description it
said free shipping.  Which statement of shipping rules?  Does the top line
shipping rule? or does the free shipping in seller description rule?
Thanks.
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Must be he was trying to make ANFO so he could blow up the concrete!

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:55 AM
To: Jim Cathey; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties

What good does fertilizer do to oil stains on concrete?  What sort of
fertilizer?

On Mon, Dec 22, 2014 at 2:26 PM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 We had ours last night.  A whole lot of cleaning went on, including a 
 (for me, rare) dump run.  SWMBA wanted all the cars away from the 
 front of the house in order to maximize guest parking.  (About 30 
 guests, I think.)  It was a fairly warm day, mid-40's and sunny, and 
 for a change the semi- comatose cars cooperated.  The 560 SEL actually 
 _started_, so I got it backed out of the way.  The Chicken Wagon 
 started readily, of course, and with its bad B2 (?) was able to creep 
 forward enough that I could get it into reverse and park it out of the 
 way too.

 The 'heap, of course, cooperated nicely, and I ran it out to the end 
 of the range, to mark beyond where not to go.
 I ran an extension cord out to power the in-car Christmas lights, and 
 hooked up a battery charger so as to gain the parking lights as well.  
 Very festive!

 It was eerie, having a completely empty parking pad.  I even swept it, 
 and poured fertilizer on all the oil spots.  Easy to put six cars on 
 concrete, and plenty of room for many more on the gravel.

 I don't want to leave the cars where they are, they need to be closer 
 for tool access and electricity, and I dread SWMBA's reaction when I 
 put them back!

 -- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

...on an older laptop.

I would be reluctant to do any video editing on less than a core 2 duo @
around 2GHz with 3 or more Gb of RAM.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 9:25 PM
To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing

Isn't there a Linux distro that is tailored for multi-media production?
Maybe that's the way I should go --- on an older laptop. Perhaps try both
and then decide?


OK Don

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Re: [MBZ] Sheds

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

When I lived up in BC we had a cedar mill not too far from us.  They sold
kits for various things including sheds.  Periodically they had very good
sales and we bought a shed kit from them and paid a local guy to build it.
Although I would have enjoyed doing the work myself, my day job schedule
just did not permit it.  It looked great and stayed dry.  It was all milled
cedar and shingles for the roof.  IIRC it was just a little bigger than what
you have in mind.

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Jim
Cathey via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:45 AM
To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] Sheds

 I need to build a woodshed (really a drying shed) at camp, its 
 probably going to end up at 7' or 6.5' square so I can use 8' roofing 
 with an overhang.

There is always the design we used:

http://formicapeak.com/`jimc/mog/mogdirt.html

Very picturesque, and uses 2 sheets of plywood per unit length of pitched
gable roof.  It's about 9'
wide, and as long as you want to make it.  This particular one holds about
10 cords, stacked floor to ceiling end to end.  Poles cut from the property,
concrete pillar blocks, plywood, and 3-tab roofing.
Spike nails hold it all together.  It's been going great for 10 years or so
already.

Man, I just looked that record over, and it's reading like something out of
Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas Special (on SNL).  How to build a
woodshed in only sixteen easy steps...

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

A few years back I bought SONY movie studio 10 including Sound Forge for
about $50 IIRC.  It has a lot of capability.  I have not really tapped many
of its features.  I am sure it can do the things you want.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of OK Don
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 10:49 AM
To: Curt Raymond; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing

OK, this laptop isn't THAT old - it is a Core 2 Duo at 2.13 GHz, 4GB ram,
64 bit, with a new 120 GB SSD.
I'm thinking a real video editing package on the desktop (it has 8 GB
RAM) on Windows, and a Linux open source (Ubuntu ?) on the laptop, and see
which I like best.

On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Okay this one made me laugh...
 Though I agree with Greg my first professional editing system after 
 college was a Panasonic Postbox which was based on a 486. I managed to 
 blow that up through a tragic serial mouse incident and it was rebuilt 
 with a Pentium 200Mhz. It was a pretty quick editor for its day 
 although severely limited in the effects department.The first computer 
 based editor I ever used was Avid (my current employer) Media Composer 
 on a Mac Quadra 950 which Wikipedia tells me ran a 6040 processor at
33mhz, max RAM was 256MB.
 Of course at that time Media Composer cost a minimum of $50,000 and 
 came with a couple big cards that did the real heavy lifting. It was 
 heaven coming from linear tape editing to the Quadra even if it did 
 crash with frightening regularity.
 For editing now I have Media Composer on an older HP xw8600 and 
 another copy on my Retina Macbook. For all the power in my Macbook the 
 HP edits better, its hard to compete with 2 quad core processors and a 
 real fullsize video card in a case that can vent the heat. My 24 
 monitor is way easier to use than the 15 laptop and a trackball gives 
 more precision than a touchpad can. I got my copy of Media Composer 
 through my employer but even if you had to pay retail its under a 
 grand and we now do subscription. For most people its waaay overkill
and would be dizzyingly hard to use.
 As for Linux video editing I was going to say don't bother but the 
 last time I played with it was nearly 10 years ago and things have of 
 course changed. I found: Build A Serious Multimedia Production 
 Workstation With Arch Linux | Linux.com which looks promising. If I 
 weren't trying to re-learn Media Composer (I've learned 4 other 
 editors in the last 15 years, its hard to go back) I'd probably look that
way.
 BTW RAM is king in video editing, my 8600 came to me with 4GB and ran 
 pretty good with WinXP. Last summer I bought an SSD for boot and put 
 Win7 on. It worked adequately but really woke up when I upped it to 
 10GB. When we mothball some more machines at work it'll go to 16GB or
more...
 -Curt
   From: Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: 'OK Don' okd...@gmail.com; 'Mercedes Discussion List'  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 1:46 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Video editing

 ...on an older laptop.

 I would be reluctant to do any video editing on less than a core 2 duo 
 @ around 2GHz with 3 or more Gb of RAM.

 Greg




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Re: [MBZ] Small Spaces, was Holiday parties

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

That size space would be nice as a pied a terre in a nice city, but for me,
not a first home.  I wouldn't mind having one in NYC (upper west side) and
one in Vancouver BC (west end) if I were quite wealthy.

Greg 

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Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 4:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Holiday parties

Has anyone watched - Tiny House Nation ?
I see it is showing at hulu but have not watched it.
People living in really small - i.e. 207 s.f. - space.
Anyone?
mao

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Re: [MBZ] Sheds

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Score one (maybe two) for Andrew!

Greg

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Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:42 PM
To: WILTON; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds

Lintels and beams?  Makes a great soup.

Sorry - couldn't resist.



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Re: [MBZ] Sheds

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

OMG!  And here I thought there was a glimpse of brilliance in Andrew's
posts...

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Thursday, December 25, 2014 10:25 AM
To: Rich Thomas; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds

Two sheds??  I'm feeling logy today - please enlighten me.

On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:29 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 Andrew Two Sheds Strasfogel

 --R



 On 12/24/14 2:14 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

 Score one (maybe two) for Andrew!

 Greg

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 Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
 Sent: Tuesday, December 23, 2014 8:42 PM
 To: WILTON; Mercedes Discussion List
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sheds

 Lintels and beams?  Makes a great soup.

 Sorry - couldn't resist.



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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

On a 123 I drain from the bottom, its faster...

I love using the topsider...sure, it takes a little while to drain, but then
you go off and do something else for 20 minutes or so.  I do my '03 Jetta
TDI from the top too.  Why crawl under a car unless required???

Greg

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Raymond via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 4:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

124 and 201 cars the sucker is the way to go, the cars are low and the
sounds pans are in the way. On a 123 I drain from the bottom, its faster...

Curt




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Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hmm that is interesting. Why?

Too hot and the plastic sucking tube will collapse.  Warm enough and the oil 
flows well.  So if the engine is at full temp I always let it cool for 10-15 
min.

Greg  

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via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, December 27, 2014 5:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List; Dan Penoff
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Oil question.

Hmm that is interesting. Why?  I have always gotten the engine hot.
On Dec 27, 2014 7:36 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:

 The one I have says to run the engine (if it’s cold for 2-3 minutes) 
 before using the extractor.  They specifically say to not use it if 
 the engine is hot.

 Dan




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[MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the
above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said coffee
is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using unbleached
filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a coarser grind; but
it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!

 

Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar
devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of vastly
improved flavor?

 

Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yabut...why does it taste so much better?

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 12:27 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynJv0MNJACc

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Without a side by side comparison this is not a scientific result, but I
have had French press coffee many times; but it did not strike me as being
as flavorful as coffee from the vacuum device.  Perhaps the water flowing
under pressure through the grounds does something?  As in a good espresso
maker?

Greg

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Sent: Sunday, December 28, 2014 1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Coffee Bodum Vacuum

Two words:  Coffee press.  Also known as a French press.

Dan


 On Dec 28, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 My son (owner of a 3-pedal 240D) has been making us coffee with the 
 above-named device.  Even to my un-nuanced palate the flavor of said 
 coffee is incredibly better than that brewed with a Mellita even using 
 unbleached filters.  True, it is fiddly to work with and requires a 
 coarser grind; but it certainly delivers on flavor and aroma!
 
 
 
 Do any of you coffee aficionados have experience with this or similar 
 devices?  Does anyone know the food science behind this phenomenon of 
 vastly improved flavor?
 
 
 
 Greg
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Cleaning guns

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Ed's Red is a reliable, tried-and-true homebrew bore cleaner.  It is
comprised of kerosene, ATF, and acetone.

http://handloads.com/articles/default.asp?id=9

I bet you could sub diesel fuel for the kerosene.  I would think that B-100
or an approximation might work even better.  It is a superior solvent IME.

Greg

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Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 2:04 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT - Cleaning guns

What is a good substitute for power solvent, for cleaning the barrels of
rifles and handguns? My old bottle of Outers solvent is about empty, and I
don't want to have to go to a store if something like MEK or acetone, or ATF
or something similar will work.

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Cleaning guns

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Hoppe's is also one of my favorite scents, along with wet gun dog

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 6:46 PM
To: Randy Bennell; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT - Cleaning guns

On 29/12/2014 4:12 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:
OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
What is a good substitute for power solvent, for cleaning the barrels 
of rifles and handguns? My old bottle of Outers solvent is about 
empty, and I don't want to have to go to a store if something like 
MEK or acetone, or ATF or something similar will work.


A quart of #9 costs $15 at wal-mart and lasts decades.
A pint is $10.

I'm not sure what would work that isn't marketed for the purpose.

Mitch
who likes the smell of Hoppe's #9 bore solvent.

I got some cans of Mil spec bore cleaner in tittle cans years ago from Camp
Supply/Outdoor supply in St Louis.

Other than that,  #9.

I also like the smell of #9 in the morning, along with woodsmoke and
coalsmoke, with the english tea and grilled gato bacon.

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Re: [MBZ] Grant's New Motorhome

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

...curb weight is 44,972 lbs..

Is that with or without the 1,700 lbs. of fuel?:-)

Greg

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Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 7:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] Grant's New Motorhome

BTW, did I mention the fuel tanks on board hold 245 gallons?

This is one of those little man toys that if you flinch, cringe, or shake
when you pull up to the pumps or the parts house, you shouldn't own one..
sort of like big boats...

Economy cruise will yield something on the scale of 5.5 to 7 MPG. But..
curb weight is 44,972 lbs.. so it takes energy to move things.

On the other hand.. in the My Mercedes is bigger than your Mercedes
game... I hardly have to lift an eyebrow.. ha.

All in good fun.. I enjoy a challenge, and taking on a rolling penthouse
project certainly fills that need.

Grant...



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Re: [MBZ] Grant's New Motorhome

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

A friend has a 40 foot diesel pusher motorhome.

They were 50 miles or more away from any sort of heavy tire dealer on a
weekend when they had a tire go bad.

This thing does not have a jack or a spare and  they got on the cell phone
and found someone willing to come out and take care of it.

I think he said they paid close to a thousand dollars to have a fellow come
out and install a used tire.

They have subsequently put all new tires on it in the hope of avoiding such
an issue happening again.

 

RB

 

Anyone who has a large RV needs to have good roadside emergency insurance.
I have only used mine twice in nearly 20 years of RVing, but I would have
been up the proverbial creek without it.  Once was when I lost my brakes in
Kicking Horse Pass up in Canada.  Don't ask!

 

Greg

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bourbon and New Year

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Yes!  Some of the Islands rum is very nice sipping spirits served neat.  I 
recall Trinidadian Old Oak, other rums from The Dominican Republic and some 
other excellent (and dirt cheap) rum I bought while in Bermuda (but it was 
Caribbean sourced).

Greg

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To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bourbon and New Year

I don't really drink bourbon but for something similar I like a nice taste of 
Mount Gay Extra Old rum. We went to the distillery in Barbados some years ago 
and had the chance to sample some with the master distiller who taught us to to 
drink rum from a brandy snifter...
Which reminds me, we'll be in Barbados in early April, gotta pick up some more 
of that stuff. When we were there in 2001 it was $25/l, in the states it sold 
for $40/l...

-Curt

 On 1/1/15 1:13 AM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:

 Listers:


 A nephew of SWMBO introduced me to 1792 a while back, and my son gave 
 me a bottle for Christmas.  I think it will supplant Old No. 7 as my 
 regular adult beverage.  Any of you fans of straight Bourbon or sour 
 mash type American Whiskies?  What flavor?


 I'm planning on drinking a toast to y'all tonight in a New Years wish!


 Greg

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Re: [MBZ] OT: '35 pusher motor home with GM 6.5 pickup diesel

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Is that actually a '35 or a 35'??

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of
archer75--- via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2015 1:23 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: '35 pusher motor home with GM 6.5 pickup diesel


Friend bought a '35 pusher motor home with a GM 6.5 pickup diesel engine. He
plans to drive it nationwide including the west coast. 
Would that engine get it up the mountains; especially those on the west
coast? 
Friend is currently negotiating with the seller (a dealer) who told him it
had a Cat engine with an Allison transmission.
Thanks,
Gerry

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: this week's storm of the century

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

SWMBA (former airline employee) got me onto wunderground a while back. She
said that's what the airline used.  They have lots of locations reporting,
so I have one that I link to that's right near home.

Greg

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McLain via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2015 12:09 PM
To: rdeaf...@aol.com; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: this week's storm of the century

Freese-notis and wunderground are usually pretty good too

For generalities, the Old farmers almanac has been pretty accurate (long
cold winter but not as much snow as last year)





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Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Detroit and Chicago have a lot of catching up to do!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 11:31 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

No worries,  I would be thrilled to talk about this issue and many others.
Unfortunately, we have not filed suit on this case yet.  I can tell you a
few interesting things that are a matter of public record: 

According to the FBI, between 2007 and 2011 there was an average of
396 shootings by police officers resulting in death in the entire United
States.  
According to the FBI, there were 698,460 police officers in the
United States in 2011.
Based on the FBI numbers there was 1 shooting death for every
1763.78 officers in the United States.

Between November 2010 and July 10, 2012, WPD Officers shot at least 16
different people, killing seven (7) individuals, and wounding at least nine
(9) others. 

In 2012 alone, Wichita Police Department officers shot and killed 5 people
and wounded 9 others. 

According to the FBI, Wichita had 646 officers in 2011 and a population of
386,796 people.  
Wichita has 1 police officer for every 598.75 people. 

Wichita's officer to shooting death ratio is 1 death for every 129 officers,
which is 13. times greater than the national average. 

In comparison to Wichita, Detroit, Michigan has 2,760 police
officers and a population of 713,239 people.  
Detroit has 1 police officer for every 258.41 people. 
Detroit had 411 total homicides in 2012, 377 in 2011, and 327 in
2010, which is approximately 14 times greater than the average rate in
Wichita.
Despite having nearly twice the population of Wichita, and more than
three times the number of police officers, Detroit only had 3
officer-involved shooting deaths in 2012.

Detroit has 1 shooting death to every 920 police officers, which is 9 times
LESS than the ratio for Wichita. 

Chicago has a population of 2,703,713 in 2011 and 12,092 officers for an
officer to citizen ratio of 223.59 to 1.  
Chicago had 8 officer shooting deaths in 2012. 

The ratio of shooting deaths to police officers in Chicago is one death for
every 1511 police officers.

Even though Chicago has approximately eight times as many people as Wichita,
the ratio of shooting death to police officers in Wichita (1/129) is nearly
twelve times greater than the ratio in Chicago (1/1511).


-Original Message-
From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 12:24 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting

Understood. It wasn't my intent to put you in a position of discussing
protected speech.

Thanks,

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 2, 2015, at 11:50 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 I cannot comment on this. We are in the midst of a fight over this
currently.  
 
 Don Snook 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Dan Penoff [mailto:d...@penoff.com] 
 Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2015 6:18 AM
 To: Mercedes List
 Subject: [MBZ] Wichita Shooting
 
 Donald,
 
 Any comments on this?
 

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20150119/06150629744/wichita-police-respon
d-to-request-shooting-incident-details-with-handful-fully-redacted-pages.sht
ml
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I use Acronis Trueimage, and have used it several times.  It's pretty user
friendly and can shrink or expand volumes to suit a new drive.  It also can
do automated backups, but I don't use that feature.  I think you can get a
free trial perion, although I bought it on sale for about $10 IIRC.

Greg

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Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2015 6:36 AM
To: Mercedes List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Korean malware FIXED

Randy,

There are any number of programs out there for free that will allow you to
clone a hard drive. CloneZilla is good as are others. Most of these have
walk throughs that show how it's done.

I haven't cloned a personal (PC) drive in some time, so I can't offer
specifics as far as software recommendations. I clone Mac drives regularly
using Carbon Copy, a Mac program for cloning that's been around for years. I
also use Disk Utility to make compressed image files for archive and backup
purposes as well.  Disk Utility is a native program that's been a part of
the Mac OS for years, and it's probably one of the best things they ever put
together in that regard.

The PC work I've done has been enterprise level stuff, so the tools I used
aren't typically available to the general public, or they're rather
expensive for the average person.

There have got to be some list members out there with PCs that are cloning
drives.

??

Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Feb 5, 2015, at 11:19 AM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:
 
 So, can you tell me in simple terms how to do this?
 
 I have a portable hard drive and would like to do essentially a clone of
the hard drive on my computer.
 I understand there is a way to do it by booting from a flash drive so that
the whole of C can be accessed to copy it.
 I assume I could use something like ghost or clonezilla to make the copy.
 The question is - exactly what do I need on the flash drive to make it
bootable and let me make the copy?
 It is Windows 7 Home Premium.
 
 My IT guy says it is simple and he will do it for me but he is busy and
despite a number of reminders, has yet to do so.
 He is good however, in the sense that when I had a hard drive going bad,
he came and got my computer  and copied and replaced it all within about 2
or 3 hours.
 
 Part of the business is a backup service that copies changes to files in
the night and stores it off site. However, that would not recover the whole
C drive if it was needed.
 Thus, I would like to have something that could put this back where it was
pretty quickly if a problem arose.
 I understand it would need to be redone pretty regularely in order to be
of much use.
 
 Part of the problem is that over time we tinker with programs etc and then
if we do a clean install, things don't look or work like they did before.
 I am pretty happy with the machine right now and would like to be able to
preserve that look and feel.
 
 RB
 
 On 04/02/2015 5:28 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
 Of all the times I've tried, I never got Windows to roll back using the
native recovery utility.
 
 I'm not bashing, just relating my experience.
 
 I am a great believer in clean installs.  Keep a clean image and good,
regular backups, and when something like this occurs you just nuke and start
fresh.  It makes life so much easier.
 
 Dan
 
 
 
 On Feb 4, 2015, at 6:23 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 A bit late since you have fixed it, but is there not a means of telling
Windows to go back to an earlier date in order to avoid issues like this
that crop up?
 
 RB
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT - FreeNAS

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Here's an update on my WD NAS I set up a while ago.  It has a Linux OS and runs 
a two-core 1.2 GHz CPU, has 2 WD Red 4TB HDs (set up as a mirror RAID, so 4 TB 
storage), 2 USB 3.0 ports, and is fanless; but seems to run cool.  I'm not 
smart enough to make much use of the onboard apps, But using Allway Sync from 
my Win 7 desktop my incremental backups are fast and sure.  It allows remote 
access to the unit, so my distant adult kids can use it as cloud storage.  The 
unit cost not much more than the HDs alone, and I'm quite happy with it.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Dan Penoff 
via Mercedes
Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2015 2:45 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT - FreeNAS

Decided to nuke my Windows 7 box and use it for a FreeNAS system.  Blew it away 
on Thursday after making sure there wasn’t anything of value on it (there 
wasn’t) and installed FreeNAS.

Set FreeNAS up on the SSD and configured a single volume for a Time Machine AFP 
volume.  It was amazingly simple to set up and configure.  Lots of goodies in 
there that I won’t use but could be very useful for someone who is supporting a 
lot if different platforms.

Works like a champ, MUCH faster than my crappy DLink MAS-345 NAS that I’ve not 
been happy with.  As a matter of fact, I think I’m going to pull a couple of 
the drives out of the DLink and put them in the FreeNAS box to create another 
volume for media streaming for the Apple TVs.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Good news all around!

Greg

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Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2015 4:21 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Update XXXIX: SHE CAN READ (and other information)!

After a year of problems with her eyes, Shirley can finally read!

She got new lenses after her cataract surgeries last summer, but with the
vitrectomies in her left eye and the capsulotomy in her right eye, her eyes
changed enough to make those lenses useless for reading. At her final visit
at Eye Associates in Santa Fe with the retinologist on 13 January, we asked
about her reading problems. The technician had done a refraction at the
beginning of her appointment; the doctor said that the new prescription just
generated would solve her reading problems.

Shirley then went to Eye Associates Optical in Los Alamos (affiliated with
the medical section of Eye Associates) with the new prescription. We were
expecting to pay for new lenses, but when the lady there looked at her
record, she said that since it was so soon after she got her previous
lenses, they would cover the cost of the new lenses! Praise the Lord!

I was somewhat apprehensive that the new lenses would really solve the
problem, but when Shirley got the lenses, she said she could read. She has
packed away the large magnifying glass she had been using and is reading
well. She may have to have a capsulotomy on her left eye in the future, but
she is functioning well now.

In other news :-), WE HAVE A CONTRACT ON OUR HOUSE!!! Another Praise the
Lord! The contract is with a young man named Peter and his wife Sarah, who
are currently residing in Houston, Texas. Peter grew up in Albuquerque and
Sarah grew up here in Los Alamos. Sarah had seen our home on zillow.com and
had asked her parents, who live not too far from us here on Barranca Mesa,
to come and look at the house. They came on
24 January and were impressed by the house. After they reported back to her,
I received an email from and called Peter and later received a call from
Sarah. In our conversation, Peter said he had received his official offer
from the Lab here and was planning on coming out for a house-hunting trip on
14 February. After talking with his new supervisor at the Lab, Peter found
they wanted him to start work on 06 April! He moved up his trip to this past
weekend, with us showing the house to him and his mother-in-law on Saturday,
31 January. Late yesterday afternoon he called us and said he wanted to come
over to talk about an offer.
After he made a reasonable offer, we hashed out the details and agreed to
meet at Los Alamos National Bank (LANB) at 0900 this morning. One detail
that concerned me is that the house will have to close on 01 April, with
them getting posession then, 8-1/2 weeks from now.

After praying about our meeting, I met Peter in the lobby of LANB. We
wondered whether we should go to the title company in the lobby, or to the
bank's loan officers on the second floor. We decided to go to the title
company, which proved to be the correct choice.

The lady with whom we spoke at the title company, Patti, was, as Peter said,
Awesome! We went into the office and I said, This young man wants to buy
my house. Peter said that we were wondering whether we should see them or
the loan officer first. Patti said we had come to the correct place and that
they did this every day. She said we didn't need a realtor and would be
happy to guide us through the process. She then took us into their
conference room where we discussed the transaction.
She then got copies of a contract form for the three of us and went through
each item, telling us what it meant and suggesting how we should handle it.
Peter and I then went about filling out the contract form, discussing how we
would handle closing costs, inspections, and other things. After filling it
out, the president of the title company reviewed it and said things were OK.

We then went across the lobby to the bank where Peter transferred the
earnest money to the title company's escrow account. After a brief trip back
to the title company to find telephone numbers for inspectors, we shook
hands and departed.

So, praise the Lord, we are progressing on the sale of the house!
Things to pray about now include,

 - Getting a high-enough appraisal for Peter to be able to
   get the loan from LANB,

 - Timely processing and funding of the loan,

 - Timely inspections and survey,

 - Wisdom, health, strength, and help for Shirley and me to get
   all things done we need to to be able to move out on 01 April
   and head for Indiana. (I'm in the middle of refurbishing our
   utility trailer and our vehicles need some work -- not the least
   of which is cleaning the mice which recently took up residence
   and their smelly, potentially disease-laden detritus out of the
   heater of our Big Red Van. It seems a little 

[MBZ] Only Slightly OT: Batteries Again

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Listers:

 

So I had been having some trouble with the '95 Crown Vic.  I finally decided
I might need a new battery, so I took the battery to the FLAPS for testing.
They pronounced it DOA, and offered me a Duralast for $140.  I thought I
could check Costco for comparison.  As an afterthought, when I called them
to see if they had one in stock to fit the CV, I asked if I would get any
credit on the Kirkland battery dated 05/10 that had died.  He said yes, just
bring it to the returns counter.  Well you could have knocked me over with a
feather when the gal at the counter gave me a $42.70 credit for the battery
I had paid $79 for almost 5 years ago!!!  The new Interstate battery that
they now carry was only $89.  These are 1000 /850 batteries.

 

Greg

 

 

 

 

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Re: [MBZ] OT: The sweet sound of success

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have had excellent results by blowing into the air intake with a Giotto
Rocket intended for camera work.  I'm sure disassembly is better, but a lot
more work.  I have replaced cooling fans on ThinkPads (with the free and
comprehensive hardware manuals ThinkPads are a breeze to work on).
Sometimes the motors, bearings or lube is just gone.  Parts are cheap.

There are Win apps for temperature display (IDK about Apple) so you don't
need to guess about whether your cooling is adequate.

Oh wait...I guess you must be talking about a desktop type machine.
Surprising it should be such a PITA to get into!

Greg

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Cathey via Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 1:41 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: The sweet sound of success

Jill's been complaining for awhile now that her G5 Quad Mac has been roaring
its fans at her.  We've also experienced a few crashes that could possibly
be thermally induced.  So today I bit the bullet.

Googling for instructions I found how to remove the CPU assembly from the
computer.  This is not easy, I didn't have the correct long Allen
screwdrivers.  I managed to make do with some shorter ones, a long Torx
screwdriver, some SAE Allen bits, and a 1/4 socket wrench set.
That was a pain.  Once I had the assembly out I looked it over and blew out
the dust bunnies.  It looked pretty good, no sign of leaks.
It's got a second-generation Delphi/Cooligy cooling system. Not ideal, but
so far so good.

That was the hard part.  Turning the CPU unit over exposes 15 Allen screws
to remove the heat sink from a CPU card.  The paste between the two looked
thin and dry, I wiped it off and replaced it with new.
Repeat times 2 for both CPU's.  Reassembly was in the reverse order, the
most fiddly bit was getting the CPU assembly seated to the motherboard.
Once assembled far enough to function I powered it on (but with the disks
disconnected) long enough to hear the 'bong' that indicated functional
CPU's, then I powered off and finished the reassembly.  I replaced it in
Jill's office and fired it up.

It came up just fine, and the fans did ramp up a bit while working harder
during the boot, but then the got quiet again.  That's new!
Time will tell whether or not this is fixed, but so far I believe it to have
been a, ahem, 'roaring' success!

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] Oil Change Question - Mity Vac Extractor

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Pics of your fire extinguisher part of this please!

Greg

-Original Message-

I bought 2 of the fire extinguishers for the kids to have water fights with.
I figgered they could fill them with water and pressurize with the
compressor.  They never thought it was a good 
idea.   So when I started thinking about a sucker I took one out. 
Cut off the nozzle.  Found out the hose would jam into the dipstick 
tube as is.  Halfway there.  THen how to get a vacuum in it?   The HF 
vacuum dealie was on sale.   A short piece copper tube with a flare 
nut, a short piece of hose, and an air chuck hooks it to the valve stem on
the fire extinguisher.

Works to suck out the oil,
Works to store oil
Works to pump used oil into jug/barrell or whatever you use to recycle the
oil.

HF vacuum dealie:
http://www.harborfreight.com/air-vacuum-pump-with-r134a-and-r12-connectors-9
6677.html
Mine are the older model.

Later I made another one to leave at my daughter's house.  No more crawling
on the ground there, except for flex joints, trans filter 
changes etc.   Too bad they never made a system so simple to change 
trans oil and filter.

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Re: [MBZ] ThinkPad Laptops [was: Re: OT: The sweet sound of success]

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

T500 for sure!  They have a great reputation.  The R series not so much.
IDK about ASUS.

Go to ThinkPads.com for great advice from very knowledgeable people.  If you
register you can participate in their marketplace.  I have gotten a few
items from members and had good experiences.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Craig via
Mercedes
Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2015 8:06 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] ThinkPad Laptops [was: Re: OT: The sweet sound of success]

On Sat, 17 Jan 2015 14:56:05 -0800 Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 I have had excellent results by blowing into the air intake with a 
 Giotto Rocket intended for camera work.  I'm sure disassembly is 
 better, but a lot more work.

But the Giotto Rocket won't replace the heatsink grease ...


 I have replaced cooling fans on ThinkPads (with the free and comprer 
 temperature display (IDK about Apple) so you don't need to guess about 
 whether your cooling is adequate.

I have some ThinkPad laptops I got off freecycle that I hensive hardware
manuals ThinkPads are a breeze to work on).
 Sometimes the motors, bearings or lube is just gone.  Parts are cheap.
 
 There are Win apps for temperature display (IDK about Apple) so you 
 don't need to guess about whether your cooling is adequate.

I have some ThinkPad laptops I got off freecycle that I have been thinking
about getting running to replace our Dell Inspiron 600m.

The ThinkPads I have are:

lenovo R60, Type 9461-CTO, Product ID: 9461CTO

lenovo T500, Type 2242-CTO, Product ID: 2242CTO

I also have an ASUS M3000Np Notebook PC.

Are any of these worth the trouble to get them running?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.

I have a brother like that.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew 
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2015 4:11 PM
To: Dan Penoff; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in 
Boston?

She is one of those smart people who are actually quite stupid.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 7:07 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes  
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

 So she’s dead because she believed the lunar landing was faked?

 Did the Illuminati do her in?

 Dan



  On Feb 16, 2015, at 7:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes 
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
  OMG you don't know me at all.
 
  My former partner steadfastly believed the lunar landing was faked, 
  and nothing could shake this belief.  That was one of her fatal flaws...
 


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[MBZ] OT: Shop Lighting

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I saw this item in the most recent Costco flyer going on sale for $32
starting 1/29:

 

http://www.amazon.com/Feit-Electric-Utility-Shop-Light/dp/B00LFAY5SM/ref=cm_
cr_pr_product_top#productDetails

 

Note the good reviews, and note that the Costco sale price is less than half
of Amazon's!

 

I plan to buy several to put in the garage.  Since these have no switches, I
think I'll pull the CFLs from the sockets and screw in some 2 prong socket
adapters.

 

Greg 

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Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Actually, Germans and Italians too were interned, although not in numbers as 
large as the Japanese.  The pendulum has swung in the other direction now, to 
the point where no one in power would see the danger that a Major Hassan posed 
to his fellow soldiers.

People in power have...power.  Including LEOs.  And as such, they must know 
there's a line they mustn't cross; and if they DO cross that line they must be 
smacked down.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond 
via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:37 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

Yeah, no.
What happens if they say anybody who sells drugs is a terrorist? Or 
homosexuals? Or Jews?
Oh sure, that can't happen anymore. How long ago was it the Canadian government 
stopped pulling children from indigenous homes and educating them that native 
lifestyles were wrong? Check you calendar on that one, people younger than me...
I was 70 years ago the US locked up a big portion of its citizens (asian folks) 
which was clearly unconstitutional. If it'd really made sense they'd have 
locked up folks of German descent too.
It was Franklin who said Those who are willing to They that can give up 
essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty 
nor safety.” ”Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
-Curt
  From: Randy Bennell via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
 To: Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 3:37 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers
   
This sort of thing has been common in England for a long while.
It does go against the grain to have the authorities spying on one all of the 
time but if we want the police to catch the bad guys, we sometimes have to give 
up some of our liberties to help them do it.

RB

  
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Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

They're here, and not going away.  If they are used for catching dangerous
felons or terrorists, then fine.  If they are misused, like the fishing
expedition in MD to harass a citizen because he is a CCW license holder in
another state, then sue the crap out of them; have those who made the
decision to do that fired.

IMO people driving on public roads do not have the expectation of privacy
with regard to their number plates.  But mere suspicion is not grounds for a
vehicle stop and search.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Ritchey via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 12:31 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

After a recent double murder in nearby Granville County NC on New Year's
Day, the alleged perps were apprehended in West Virginia after an automated
license plate reader flagged the victim's stolen car.  

 

See:
http://abc11.com/news/911-call-shows-desperate-scene-at-murder-victims-home/
462397/

 

The alleged perps shot the West VA cops that made the traffic stop and the
original victim's bodies were found in the truck they were diving; so there
is not much doubt about their guilt.

 

Getting back to privacy issues, in this case the license reader enabled the
cops to catch two very dangerous criminals; they were apparently on a crime
spree.  On the other hand, I certainly wouldn't appreciate anyone
(especially the Government) tracking my every move.  Like the NSA. I think
the answer is in insuring the power is not abused.  That is especially hard
when there is little transparency in government.

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Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

And that was without relying on plate readers!

There are idiots in all walks of life.  It just shows more when they're
cops.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:47 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT License plate Readers

Some years ago I had driven from Texas to take my son to school at
Villanova.  My wife and I were going to some hotel not very close to the
school, in Philadelphia proper, and I get stopped by a cop.  Guy gets out,
shaved head, black military pants and combat boots, thigh holster, swagger,
the whole Hitler Youth works.  I look at this guy and had to work really
hard not to laugh at him for looking like such a parody.  So he asks for
license and registration, I ask what the issue is.  He tells me I had a
license plate light out (it was barely dusk, for some reason the automatic
headlights had come on, so the license plate light comes on too).  I had
actually noticed that one of the two lights was out, and being on the road
had not taken the time to replace it, but as long as one was working, no
problem.  So I say, Oh yeah, the left one is out, I have been traveling the
last few days and had not have time to replace it, but the other one is
working so I am not sure what the problem is.  
He sorta looks at me like I am some kind of idiot (or, rather, like he is an
idiot) and asks, How do you know that?  So I tell him I like to take care
of my vehicles blahblah, had noticed it at a gas stop a day or two ago, and
since there was no issue why are you harassing us?  He gets all mumbly and
says something about people from Texas (probably meaning
Mexicans) bring dope up there so he was making sure I wasn't a doper or
something.  At this point my wife goes off on him, asking how many dopers
with Villanova stickers on their newish Suburbans bring dope to
Philadelphia, and I am looking at the guy with pity.  He kinda mumbled
something and she goes on him more about harassing us, no valid reason to
stop us, nice welcome y'all got here, and at that point he sorta apologizes
and says for us to have a safe drive home or something.  What an idiot.

--R

On 1/27/15 5:25 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:
 They're here, and not going away.  If they are used for catching 
 dangerous felons or terrorists, then fine.  If they are misused, like 
 the fishing expedition in MD to harass a citizen because he is a CCW 
 license holder in another state, then sue the crap out of them; have 
 those who made the decision to do that fired.

 IMO people driving on public roads do not have the expectation of 
 privacy with regard to their number plates.  But mere suspicion is not 
 grounds for a vehicle stop and search.

 Greg


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Re: [MBZ] who wanted a jack

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Read the reviews before buying that one!  Then don't buy it.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 1:25 PM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] who wanted a jack

HF aluminum on sale $70

http://click.harborfreightemail.com/?qs=f1d303cbbf7d038d4c5762cba6a68f6bd197
34bd36a9beb58b68f3aa6d6c8600d4c6713611d12e5b

--R

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Re: [MBZ] OT New surround speakers set-up

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a mixed set of speakers for the 5.1 in my Home Theater setup.  There
are a pair of old school Marantz speakers for the LR front, an old school
Acoustic Research for the center, some medium quality subwoofer from the
previous receiver set and a pair of BIC speakers (yes, they make decent
moderately priced speakers as well as pens) for the rear.  It works fine.
My Yamaha receiver (and I suppose any decent one) will allow you to
individually tune the output for each speaker.  A few really good speakers
in a mixed setup is better than a matched set of inferior speakers.

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Rich
Thomas via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 9:09 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: [MBZ] OT New surround speakers set-up

I am looking to put in some surround sound in my new kitchen, I have wires
run for 5.1 and power for a subwoofer.  I have a TV going in and a buddy
gave me a really nice older 5(+2 addl back channel).1 Denon rcvr that should
work fine with Dolby/DTS.  Rather than bodging up some mix of random
speakers, I am thinking of something like these packages, but I am not sure
if the little satellite speakers really put out enough, or sound that good.
The space is about 16' X 24 with an open loft above, so the space is really
big.  It won't be for a cinema experience, mostly for watching while cooking
or people hanging out, so don't need to shake the earth.

Any thoughts?

--R




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Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

Our culture seems to be devolving.

Greg

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Penoff via Mercedes
Sent: Friday, January 09, 2015 8:00 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Free Talk Live radio

We are Devo!

Sent from my iPad

 On Fri, Jan 9, 2015 at 9:25 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes  
 mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:
 
 Are we not men?
 
 --R

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Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: specific MB suggestions

[Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes]

I have a '95 CV with the airbags (I assume this is the same system?) and it
works fine.  Sure, the ride is a little mushy but the car is a great highway
cruiser and very comfortable.  It is a high-end LX with digital dash and
excellent climate control.  I wouldn't hesitate to buy the Town Car version
at all!

Greg

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From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Donald
Snook via Mercedes
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 12:26 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Subject: Re: specific MB suggestions

I have read about the rear suspension issues.  Most of the stuff I read said
just replace the bags with Coil Springs and it works great.  It's a big
floating barge, so old technology springs would probably work just fine. 

-Original Message-
From: rdeaf...@aol.com [mailto:rdeaf...@aol.com] 
Sent: Monday, January 12, 2015 1:44 PM
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: [MBZ] Subject: Re: specific MB suggestions

 I found a 1995 Lincoln Town Car with only 35,000 miles for  sale.  It is
in spectacular shape.  I am just trying to convince  myself that driving a
20 year old Lincoln is a good idea..
 
   If you get that, change the suspension system to fixed like my  friend 
did  it would be good car.  He's 6'4.   I finally got  him into a 1982 240D

manual with 330 K which he just bought from a buddy of  mine.
 
Bob

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