[MBZ] White coats

<> Irreverent but close to the truth. Regarding list splitting, I am on digest and yes, I'm a bit weary of the endless bio posts, all the gun blather not to mention 240D 240D 240D ON AND ON. And as an owner of a four year old car, I dare not speak of it. So, I just read the headers and if noth

[MBZ] Taxes...love 'em

<> Except for the Seattle monorail tax. Godalmighty. RLE

[MBZ] Cars of which we dare not speak....

Christopher is goading me but it ain't workin'. <. Three integrated door openers, in fact. I use two. <> Not needed on a small car like a C. << Sirius Satellite radio?>> Pah! <> Tele-Aid, standard in '01, not only has an annual fee after the first year but a charge for every time it's used

[MBZ] Splitting?

<. Thank you for your kind thoughts. May I suggest that you reread my post which was an oblique response to somebody who is bitching about subjects of no interest to him. I mention some examples that I have no interest in and point out that they do not have to be read. Referring to ten years r

[MBZ] Ownership contest?

<> Seems to me that one should only mention the cars that are ready RIGHT NOW for a 200 mile drive. Get in, start 'er up, and go. Otherwise... RLE/Seattle/still pissed about the monorail tax.

[MBZ] 240D etc.

Admiral Don posteth: <> Since it has absolutely nothing to do with anything, I shall relate my 240D story. My San Mateo (CA) uncle picked up a '79 240D at Sindelfingen and drove until about '91 or so, accumulating about 125K miles in that time. This was a stripper. Ivory with tan, no sunroof,

[MBZ] Passat diesels

<> Why not? It may well be. BTW, no one has mentioned that the Touareg diesel is gone too. My friend DM had one in the pipeline when his order was cancelled. He's trading his ML. The latest Mercedes Enthusiast (on the free reading stand at Barnes & Noble) tests the new E420 CDI (twin turbo 4.

[MBZ] Bringing in Canadian new cars

<> Back when the current model MB CL came out, they were in short supply and there was a pent-up demand for them around here. But, in Canada they seemed to be saleproof so the Eastside MB dealer bought all the Canadian CL's they could find (nine, I think) at sticker retail. They then marked th

[MBZ] Just dump in the green stuff...

ROTAX OWNERS CAUTIONED ABOUT USING IMPROPER COOLANT The FAA has issued a special airworthiness information bulletin (SAIB) to alert owners and operators of Bombardier-Rotax 912 A, 912 F, 912 S, and 914 F series engines about using the proper type of coolant. Using the improper type of coolant can r

[MBZ] Out of the frying pan....

<> Please tell us you don't still have the 280. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Sightings

So there I was heading for home after getting off the ferry from Southworth on Saturday when I caught up to an old pea-green O309D MB bus-like thing with the license plate "BIO-BENZ." Needed injectors. Noisy. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Trigger points

<. Yes. But the trigger points below the distributor plate had nothing to do with the ignition system. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] The new G-Wagen

http://www.autobild.de/projektor/projektor.php?artikel_id=8186&pos=12

[MBZ] Aluminum blocks, here we go yet again

<,The casting process is alive and well -- Rover uses it on an old GM aluminum block V8 (the Buick one from 1960 or so) and Benz uses it in all their engines these days, so there is nothing wrong with the technology.  GM just failed to do the design correctly.>> Actually, what is shared to this da

[MBZ] Trigger point inflation

<> Godalmighty, the last (and only) set of trigger points I bought for my long departed 450SE cost eighty bucks which I thought at the time was outrageous. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] 6.3 vs 6.3

<> And the new 6.3 V8 designed and built by AMG produces over twice the hp (510) the old one did. It will be first introduced in the '06 ML63. RLE/Seattle/making do with a 3.2

[MBZ] What to drive...

Every day, an agonizing decision. Seems that Jimmy Barrier, owner of Barrier MB in Bellevue WA (not to mention Barrier Porsche, Barrier Volvo, Barrier Audi and so on) is now making the four mile commute from Hunt's Point to the store each day in his new SLR. The Maybach 57 is probably just sitt

[MBZ] The old 6.3 vs everything else.....

<> I was OK with most of this right up to the end. My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. And with pushrods and a carb, yet. That is not a "handy margin." And I would guess the Chevy engine was more economical and far more reliable. BTW, the data I've s

[MBZ] Corvette confusion

<[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >  My '63 Corvette's 327 CI engine produced a claimed 300HP with less displacement. > And with pushrods and a carb, yet. I thought the 300HP engine had that silly Hillman fuel injection. I still can't believe that Tom MacCahill from Mechanics Illustrated claimed to go o

[MBZ] 6.3 and Corvettes, apples and oranges

> The MB's HP was also at the flywheel and the difference between SAE (Society of Automotive Engineers) and DIN (Deutsche Industrie Norm) in those days could be 10%. But if you took the FI Corvette at maybe 360HP vs the MB 6.3 at 300, it probably had a slight edge with about 9% less displacemen

[MBZ] Rust and speed

<> Porsche bodies were 100% zinc coated steel by 1976. Before that they would be rusted out before the last payment was made. The iconic 356 was worse. During the restoration of my friend SJB's '56 Speedster, replacing the rusted sections cost 13 grand. <> The key to running all day at full

[MBZ] Cimarron

<,The Cadillac Cimarron debuted as a 1982 model.  It had a 112 c.u. engine in 82. By 1983 it was increased to a 2.0. By sometime around 87, the Cimmaron was upgraded to the 2.8 V6.>> Lordy, what an awful car. Car & Driver magazine in a road test article said that GM should send a letter of apolog

[MBZ] Vo-Po

<. Careful, now. The 914 body was built by Karmann. And if it was a six all the mechanicals were installed at Porsche Zuffenhausen. RLE

[MBZ] Clones? Noooo

<. The Cayenne and the Touareg share the doors and platform and that's all. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche

<> Porsche is the most profitable car manufacturer on the planet. Their pre-tax profit last year was higher than Ford, GM, or DC. Which is why I can't afford a new Boxster S. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche and VW group

<. Are not and never were. Where DO you get this stuff? RLE

[MBZ] Accel pumps

<> The proper tool is a graduated glass vial. I never messed with the pump volume on my 72 250 but I do know that the amount per stroke is critical, based on my experience with Weber triple throats on two Porsches. Those carbs were also used on the Ferrari Boxer which I never laid a hand on.

[MBZ] Zwolf bolts?

<> Well, now Stevie, if the engine, trans, complete suspension, brakes and wheels, steering column and instruments and more were mounted with only twelve bolts, I'd call that a breakthrough, wouldn't you? What with owning a 914-6 for thirteen years, I know for sure that it was at least fifteen

[MBZ] Cayenne..who knew anyone would buy one?

Harry ?M says partially incorrectly: <> As I previously posted, the Cayenne and Touareg share the platform and doors. That's it. They certainly don't use the same engines except for the low end V6 which I think is a modified Audi engine. Some would like to see the VW V-10 diesel in the Cayenne

[MBZ] Porsche

<> Except for the early fifties, Porsche had done pretty well until the early eighties when 911 sales were in the dumper due to prices the public finally balked at. Porsche freely admits that the 944 saved the company and that after that period there have been more watercooled Porsches on the r

[MBZ] Swing axles?

<> The last Porsche model to use swing axles was the 356C of 1965. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche

<> You are correct. My previous arguments referred to the vertical fan fours which do resemble VWs externally. BTW, which American car used the Audi/924 block? 924 owners are still trying to live that down. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche vs the rest

<> If you go back to 1956 and look at what was being coming out of England and Italy and then look at the 356A which even then could be a daily driver, they seemed so far advanced. Corvette was just getting started but... RLE

[MBZ] VW of America

<> In the US they were all distributed by Volkswagen of America. But that's where they came together. Even my '84 Porsche came through VOA. RLE

[MBZ] C320

For those who are always looking for something to criticize about the present models, here's some ammo. My C320 has developed a fuel leak, or perhaps seep would be the word for now. I jacked it up today (lifted by the diff) and searched with a light, finding nothing. The fuel filter, above the l

[MBZ] Audi/AMC

<> It was an AMC car and for some reason I thought it was the Pacer. You may be right. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche importers

<> I am not sure what this means but, after Porsche of America Corp. went away, Porsche contracted with VW of America to distribute their cars and parts. Except in the Northwest where Riviera Motors of Beaverton OR (later Porsche Cars Northwest) remained as the last independent Porsche distrib

[MBZ] Porsche's saviour

<> Sales of the 944 (83-89) saved the company, plain and simple. Their words. What finally killed them was the 50K price and still four cylinders. Even though the 944 Turbo was a 150+mph car. As to the 928, it was launched as an SL competitor which never went anyplace. RLE

[MBZ] Porsche diesels

<> You mean the Porsche Diesel tractor, don't you, you rascal? There were about five of them (restored) at the recent Porsche Parade in Hershey PA. As I recall, you had a choice of 1, 2, or 3 cylinders. Without researching it, I think they were made by someone else using the name but a lot of

[MBZ] More Vo-po

<,If I'm not mistaken the 914 was essentially a true Porsche but it did use a 1.7 VW engine.>> The 914-4's engine progressed to 1.8 and then 2.0 in 1973. Not to mention the 914-6 with the 2 liter 911 engine. A close friend who just took delivery of an '06 997S has owned a flawless 1973 914 2.0

[MBZ] Touareg diesel

<> Porsche never intended to power the Cayenne with a diesel. And the Touareg V-10 turbodiesel is sold everywhere but here where it ran afoul of the EPA and it was pulled. A friend had signed the deal to swap his ML for one when all orders were cancelled by VW. It may come back when the low sul

[MBZ] Truck engines

<> Mercedes Benz, being the largest truck manufacturer on the planet, builds their own engines in Stuttgart, for one place. There is a website someplace that shows them all. RLE

[MBZ] Goofy drag cars

When I was a high-schooler (or earlier, I dunno), some guy locally had installed a four-cam Porsche Carrera (probably a 1500) in a Fiat Bianchina. No engine sheet metal at all, just sitting in midair in there. Word had it that it was one fast SOB. Of course, without the cooling ducts, it would

[MBZ] Diesel Cherokee

<> I saw a few diesel Cherokees in Italy way back in 1987 which must have been powered by VM engines. RLE

[MBZ] Boxster

<, Just read an article in the Economist about the auto industry and it claimed that the Porsche Boxter is not manufactured by Porsche but contracted out to engineering firms because of its limited production.>> The Boxster (started in '97) was originally built only in Germany but because dema

[MBZ] For a cultural uplift

Couldn't hurt... www.sniffpetrol.com RLE

[MBZ] L.A. tsunami

Subject: LA's Tsunami >   Hollywood Power Outage Sends City Into Chaos >   No electricity for 26 minutes. 'This is our > Tsunami.' >   By Joshua Gates >   Actor, Photographer. Victim. > >   LOS ANGELES, CA, September 12, 2005 - Horror and > disbelief swept through the greater Hollywood area > thi

[MBZ] Cummings

<> I googled Cummings and all I got was a bunch of info about a poet. Oh, and it's prostate, not prostrate. RLE

[MBZ] Tire failure

<> True enough. Two V-rated tires in my past, Bridgestone RE-71 and Yokohama A-008 both became unstrung. So to speak. Balanced but vibrating. RLE

[MBZ] Tires or......?

<,I thought that seperation occured only with re-treads.>> To whom do you refer? RLE

[MBZ] Seperation, threads (sic)

tire seperation...when the threads come off the tire On 9/23/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > <,I thought that seperation occured only with re-treads.>> > > To whom do you refer? > > RLE That was humor, Gabriel. RLE

[MBZ] I-Tunes

I updated to I-Tunes 5.0.1 last night (free upgrade). Those may not be the PC version numbers but Apple has been issuing updates frequently of late. Several have been IPod related. Not being an Ipoder, I skip those. I think last night's update was 12.3MB which took a while on dialup. Comcast st

[MBZ] 300D fuel consumption

<> I think it should do a bit better. My '78 300D under about the same conditions could reach 28.5mpg although it had fewer miles at the time. However, on the trip quoted, there weren't too many grades to climb. And, I know for a fact that pump timing was spot on and the injectors were all ad

[MBZ] Mac CD drive

<, There are some lock-up bugs in the CD-ROM drives on Macs, and Apple is still the only computer manufacturer that doesn't provide *any* means of mechanically ejecting a CD that the drive won't eject itself.>> Falsimundo!! My G4's Superdrive has a litle spring loaded cover over it's maw which ca

[MBZ] Pedants

<,if you want to get pedantic about it.  ;)>. Yes, lets. RLE

[MBZ] A 124's weight problem

<> Holy cats, that's a half ton more than my C320. Better look under the back seat for lead pigs. Or if you're lucky, gold bars. What does your owner's manual give as the weight? RLE

[MBZ] 116 fuel consumption

<> Don't even think about it. My 195hp '73 450SE struggled to reach 16 highway mpg and in the winter, commuting was about 11-13 mpg. RLE

[MBZ] OEM glass/What's that?

<> PPG has been one of the factory suppliers but my '01 C320's glass is all Pilkington. And, when it's pitted windshield was replaced this year (paid for willing by my insurance), the new one is a PPG. And, it's not quite like the original in that the mask is painted on the inside surface inste

[MBZ] Hauling what?

<> How many bales can you squeeze into the thing, anyway? Or as Kleb would say, anyways. RLE

[MBZ] Glass

<>> Windshield damage is directly related to how much debris is on the roads one drives on. In my area, the freeways are not very clean and traffic is heavy and fast, much of the time. And so my car's original glass had a couple of small stars and a lot of sandblasting. And, since I had not pu

[MBZ] Lists

<> Here's one. RLE

[MBZ] MB roadside service

<,Any model, any year and quite frankly, I believe anywhere in the US!   As long as you are the owner of a Mercedes-Benz, just give them the  car's VIN.>> And any parts supplied will be at dealer retail. Including the battery. RLE

[MBZ] The CARFAXed Dodge pickup

Having read through the review and long list of recalls of this vehicle, plus two trips to the auction, the question that come to mind is, "WHY?" Makes a Mercedes, any Mercedes, look like a paragon of reliability. Reminds me why I keep buying them. RLE

[MBZ] Lucent?

<>     I can scroll over (digest version) the endless lists of derelict Benzes for sale around Seattle without more than a twinge but mentioning Lucent Technologies on this list is pure cruelty. Reminding me of it's stock value is heartless. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Craigslist opportunities

<> Perhaps my C320 will be available next year some time. I have already related my 240D missed opportunity tale. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Break

Why do some insist on spelling "brake" as break? Certainly the word "break" (or perhaps, broken) has a time honored history with MBs in general and all too often. RLE/Seattle/nothing broken at the moment

[MBZ] Homo[hones

<> Homophones are often seen in Seattle's Capitol Hill district. RLE

[MBZ] Trans fluid changes

<> It's hard to match the joy of lying on your back under your MB (on four jackstands) with transmission fluid running down your arms, ruining your clothes and staining the driveway surface. I change my trans fluid with my Visa card, now. Some tings just ain't wuth it. RLE/Seattle

[MBZ] Battery replacement at the dealer

<< If you drive into a Mercedes dealership the cost WILL be much higher as they WILL charge labor for installation.>> Perhaps in your end of the country. At my dealer, the service writers replace batteries, broken antenna masts and light bulbs for the parts cost only. Customers remember good se

[MBZ] Lay/lie

<> That was humor and the rest of us caught it RLE

[MBZ] Windshield code numbers

http://www.glasslinks.com/dot2.htm

[MBZ] Tales

Curt posted, in part: >  Last month at camp Dad and I were getting out the lawnmower so we could mow where we were planning to plant trees>> If you are going to complete with Van Cleef with tales of your youth, or maybe last week, you are going to have to become much more verbose. H

[MBZ] Chicago politics

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=21104

Re: [MBZ] 1972 250/8 on ebay

My first MB was a 72 250. White with red tex. Narrow whitewalls. Column shift. Pathetic AC. Terrible gas hog. Used almost twice the fuel as my C320 and at 2998 lbs was about 350 lbs lighter. Nevertheless, it was just about the right size, handled and braked well and was very comfortable. Would

Re: [MBZ] OT 500 PPM low sulphur ..

I'm not going to post anything with this header, now standing at 455 times. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Grill renewal

<<,Need advice on whether the new chrome strips should be pushed onto  the grill clips toward the center or "popped" into place?>> You slide them on with the grill insert on the bench. Done this many times. RLE

Re: [MBZ] the same old refrain...

<> So, it means nothing to you that the manufacturer of your old 911 has recommended in writing that M1 0W40 be used in it? And an aircooled engine certainly must expand and contract a lot more than a watercooled en-jine. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Clean car show

<> I took a few pix but not of the krankenwagen. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Old rice burners vs??

<> I'm not sure I agree with this. I saw the big change when the W202 appeared in 1994 when reliability improved and the little things were upgraded. As one example, both of my 201s ('85 & '89) owners manuals came in a cheesy red plastic folder. Cost about 1DM, most likely. When my father pass

Re: [MBZ] Seattle Clean Car Show

<> Well, there were only two shiny black cars there. The restored 220SE Cab and my C320 with it's hood up and my name on the placard. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Jeep diesels

> Alex Chamberlain wrote: I believe the Cherokee will use the same CDI V6 as > the E-class.  The VM Motori-sourced engine in the Liberty can't burn ULSD.>> > My new copy of Auto motor und Sport has a road test of a Jeep Commander powered by a 4-cam 3 liter MB turbodiesel. 218PS @4000rpm. 510nm @

[MBZ] FIAT vs Ferrari vs Schumacher

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=F1+vs+Ferrari+vs+Fiat

Re: [MBZ] Bye bye Sonics

> < > > > Escalade sales will take a dive. DUI arrests will be down. RLE >   >

Re: [MBZ] F1 tracks

> < the tracks are flat!>> > Monza is almost flat except for the underpass. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Over and over and over

< Subject: Re: [MBZ] [Banned] cheap winter beater for sale -- keep your     Benz out of the    salt To: Banned List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Is this a joke?  Got any pics? LT Don wro

Re: [MBZ] Red delicious?

> <> > That's because he spelled it "REDICULIOUS!" RLE

Re: [MBZ] Cavalier's mile long built in defect list

> <> > That explains everything. Bad genes. RLE

Re: [MBZ] old 124 wagon

> < ?695 - at current conversion that's $1294.47.  I'd buy it in a minute unless > there's 400+k (I know, just broken in good) without any records.>. > It was a rustbucket that probably couldn't pass the MOT. Did you not notice the rust holes? RLE > >

Re: [MBZ] no-start

> < engine?  Does the 124 factory alarm have the ability to shut down the > diesel engine?>> > Alarms don't shut down anything. They prevent engine starts by opening the 12V source to the starter solenoid. Hence, no starter operation. RLE >   >

[MBZ] MBUSA changes dealer oil recommendations

MBUSA recently directed their dealers to revise their oil usage as follows: All AMG models Mobil 1 0W40. All other models 1998 and later Mobil 1 5W40 EP with changes at 12-13000 miles. All models 1997 and earlier 15W40 conventional oil. RLE

[MBZ] Oil

> < have NOT found MBUSA to be a particularly reliable source of information > about things "Mercedes" and verbal reports from dealer employees to > often be wrong and sometimes downright dangerous!>. > Well, I can hardly wait! My info comes from a long time friend who is parts and service direct

[MBZ] B1-B gear up landing

Subject: FW: B1-B Gear up recovery Back in May we had reports and pics of a B-1B making a gear-up landing at Diego Garcia.   Here are the pictures of the recovery of this aircraft, getting her back up on her wheels.   Go to: http://www.ravenware.com/factand/nofic/b1pics/gurec/index.html

Re: [MBZ] eliminating envy

<> I just don't understand all the weeping about using up the last 10% of that 124 wagon. And I wasn't the least but bothered about the destruction of that clapped out 911 Carrera 3.0 either because it was clearly on it's last legs. And I've been a Porsche driver for decades. The main reason

Re: [MBZ] Alternate winter car

< roads, I am wondering if I shouldn't just buy this car from Megan and use it > for two purposes: (1) my one-mile each way commute to work, which if I > understand what Marshall tells me is NOT good for a diesel, and (2) all of > my winter driving, when the Iowa DOT is keeping the roads open with

Re: [MBZ] "tough"?

<> If you had seen any of the crash tests of the current models, you would know that their crash performance is way beyond the older stuff. RLE

Re: [MBZ] late model squashability

<> Whatever you can afford. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Pedestrian protection

<> The whole idea is to prevent the pedestrian's head from hitting the windshield which is often the fatal injury. So they go over the top only to be run over by the following vehicle. I guess. RLE

Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 9, Issue 11

> < European delivery badge on grille.  Also he had trouble finding a parts > diagram that matched the rear suspension -stabilizer bar etc. (It's > different from my 79). Anyway he has solved that one. It's a 4 speed, no > sunroof, manual windows but has AC, looks like Federal bumpers.  VIN is > 12

[MBZ] Porsche vs GM

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Re: [MBZ] B727 arrivals

<> That landing doesn't reflect normal practice, I don't think. The first big 727 accident at Salt Lake City (UAL) when the airplane was just going into service was caused by the Captain using a normal landing technique. As he raised the nose higher, a high sink rate developed, perhaps due in

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