there is a diesel engine for that car. Drops in pretty nicely my friend was
saying.
Could it be the 2.4L straight 6 cylinder diesel that was put into the early
80's Maximas?
Kevin in hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
Hello fellow MB-ers. I have an opportunity to pick one up for nothing since
the owner and his father want it gone from the driveway. I believe it's a
'78 which would mean that it's a German-made Rabbit not the US or Mexican
models since it has round headlights and the horizontally slotted
Hi, Harry, and thanks for the info. 67hp is pretty good for a light, little
Rabbit. I'll keep everyone posted on how it turns out. Do these 1.7L?
engines require periodic valve clearance adjustment?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 266K miles, Ursula
1978 Rabbit, FNU,LNU, getting dragged
It's a gasser Bunny. I know that the 1.6L diesel only makes about 52hp.
I was hoping that it was a diesel as I pulled off the fuel cap, but oh well.
It's still more than worth the $0.00 price tag, a fun little project.
Hopefully, I'll have her hoppin' down the bunny trail in no time, after
tell me again why a 40 mpg prius is supposed to be so
great... .. . oh yeah,
cause they are so ugly.
There was a commercial on the other day claiming that the Prius has a 60mpg
rating. From what I've heard, they don't even come close to living
I still pine for a pristine '79 German-built four door.
Gas or Diesel? That would be quite a nice one to have in either flavor.
When did they switch over from being German built to being built in the
USA/Mexico? My memory says 1980 although the Rabbit/Cabriolet convertibles
were all built
This happened to my dad's 2003 Jetta that he purchased used. It was a
dealer trade, so the selling dealer wasn't who serviced it. Unfortunately,
I wasn't with him. Enough damage occurred to cause a rod knock which they
wouldn't fix. I would have advised him to run it until it seized so that
I blew
right past her. No matter how pleasant to drive, you can't do
that in the Frankenheap! I love the periodic change of steed.
The difference is just as pronounced in the SD and the Cummins Diesel. The
SD is faster than the old NA 300D/CD's, but that Cummins with it's 325hp and
I sure hope they didn't screw it up!
(Ala Ford's 6.0)
Ford recently came out with a 6.4L powerstroke Diesel with two turbos, one
to increase off idle performance and the other to increase mid to high RPM
performance. That sounds like too many sensors for me!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983
I bet you paid just a LITTLE more than $500 for that one, a Euro spec 250D
Turbo! Maybe, instead of moving to a larger house across town, I should
move to OK and team up with K'leb and get a piece of MB paradise!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
Sounds like a $3700 piece of junk to me! However, it can run on biodiesel,
and it also uses 1-2qts between oil changes! He should have said that the
new own would need to be someone who revives old jumkers rather than someone
who likes taking care of an older car. There's a '75 240D for
$1200 for a TD Turbo Diesel wagon in decent running condition? If that was
near Portland OR, I would jump on it However, if it really was nere
near me, it would be at least 3 times that as there's a 1982 for sale for
$3450, white with tan interior.
A neighbor of mine had a '79 R100S, his dad had one of the same year full
dress (R100RTS), and one of their friends had an R100RS. There was a 1963?
or so R60 or R65 that used to pop in from time to time. I got to ride on
the back of the R100S, a very smooth bike.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
I've seen a few 504's go up for sale on craigslist from time to time, and
I've thought about purchasing one. Some say that the 504 is ugly, but I
prefer to call it slightly different. While growing up, there was a
neighbor a few houses down who had 4 504's, 3 being Diesels. He and his
wife
Tim
1982 300TD
You didn't end up selling it! Great move! Either a W123 or W124 300TD
Turbo Diesel will be my next Mercedes. W124 300TD's are going for at least
8K and for as much as 11K here in Portland, OR. I've even seen a few W123
'TD's for nearly that much. In top condition, my SD
I could drive out to Portland and fly back with my ill gotten gains.
Not so fast hahahahaha! I'm looking for the RIGHT ONE, very little to no
rust, good to excellent interior, strong engine, all in all, a nice,
presentable driver. I've got nothin' but time to find it, and the longer I
wait,
Here's what's out there on Craigslist right now.
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/319205766.html
An '85 300TDt for $8500 with 170K original miles in excellent condition,
http://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/car/318110545.html
Here's a 1980 300TD NA with 160K original miles, also for $8500
http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/car/320144659.html
This one is a 1982 300TD Station Wagon for $10489, no mention of mileage
other than it's a low mileage example.
There's the 300TD market as it stands right now.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
Hi, Luther.
SD's don't seem to bring NEARLYYY the money that 300TDt's do, even
exceptionally well kept low mileage examples. There's a 1982 with 158K
miles on it right now with an asking price of $6K, smooth runner, lots of
new parts, everything works, uses no oil, .
I've seen 300tD's with similar mileage to yours for $5K or so. The
maintenance records would make quite a difference, and the rust wouldn't be
too much of a concern if properly repaired.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
The difference is
at least $2K vs. the mid-Atlantic.
That's what I've been finding. Wouldn't a rust free left coast car fetch a
premium in the mid atlantic too?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Body-Ford
Engine-Cummins/Dodge
Tranny-Allison-Chevy
If only the big Three would pool their resources! I do like the Ford's
larger rear seats and rear door opening in the crew cab models compared to
the Dodge Quad Cab that I have. The 6.0L and 6.4L ProblemsStroke engines
scared me away, and
While we were walking today in downtown Portlend, my wife spotted a
Mercedes. When she told me that it was a 200SL, I figured that she had
misread the numbers so I decided to check for myself. Yes indeedee, it was
a 200SL! . Was it really possible to get a Euro 107 with a 4 cylinder? I
Makes me remember how badly I want to find a decent '72 220D to have.
You'll have to fight me for it! =-)
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
I'm certain that it was a W107 chassis, not a W113.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
This one was near the waterfront on Montgomery, and it was silver. I'm not
sure of the type of tranny, didn't get to climb inside, unfortunately.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
My first MB was of the model year 1978, a 300D. I've always wanted some
sort of car from the year of my birth, so since I'm into MB diesels, it
should be a 1972 220D. It could either be a 1972 or 1973 model as long as
it was born in 1972.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
So your DIESEL Mercedes now has a GAS problem, eh? :-)
At least it wasn't something horrible.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267k miles, Ursula, still kickin'
Man! If I put the amount of his car payment into my SD every month, it
would be A1! Of course, it would be quite nice to ride around in an
R320CDI.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
now a $20K long caravan with a bluetec would get my attention!
I would be there to buy the one next in line! A diesel minivan would be
quite nice.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
What's a guy to do who wants to drive Mercedes, but wants something a little
more modern?
Pony up and buy an E320CDI/Bluetech :-).
You like the W126's, so maybe, the perfect Mercedes would be a 300SDL? it
SHOULD only be a 1-2K difference. Right now, there's one on the local
Craigslist for
Congratulations on the sale of your 450SL! So, what's next?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267K miles, Ursula
Congratulations! What year SD, what condition, and how much?
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Mine would have a similar rating since the interior and paint are quite
nice, but it needs other things. AC compressor is seized with belt removed,
and one of the passenger's side ball joints (probably the lower one) squeaks
when turning the wheel. Other than these problems and the exhaust
WOW you sold that cheap. If you would have lowered the price a long
time ago it probably would have sold for more money a long time ago.
It's true. The 300SD is the car to get! It has lots of room, decent power,
and it's not usually the first car of choice for the biodiesel/vegoilers
which
Congratulations! How many miles are on it? That will be my price range
later this year when I have enough saved up to buy a TD. Nope, ain't
sellin' my SD, nope, no way!
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
There's a 1996 E300D on Portland Craigslist for $11K with 134K miles on it.
Better yet, there's a '95 W124 E300 diesel for the same price. IT has the
same engine in a less rust prone chassis, but, of course, it's subject to
the evap and biodegradable wire harness problems. At least they're
Well, we've had our hands on the free '78 Rabbit for a whole week now. This
was the one that had been sitting for a couple years due to a bad
alternator. The alternator has been removed which, I believe, could be the
source of our problem. We installed new battery cables, but nothing is
Thanks, Mike, for the offer. If he has one, let me know.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
1978 VW Rabbit 137Kmi, not runnin' yet
It's all in the marketing. People are told that their hybrid is helping the
environment, and that's a good thing to help pollution and be more green,
lots of hipe. I'll just stick with my Diesels.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
You want to help the environment, buy quality stuff that lasts, or is
rebuildable.
This is why most of us drive these old, solid cars. As long as parts are
still available for these old diesels, that's what I'll do.
Kevin in Hillsboro, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
PS. There aren't too many
Hi, John. I'm so sorry for your loss. My wife, Ayla, has been thinking of
getting a motor scooter to ride around. She's blind in one eye with some
vision in the other, and the thought scares me to death. We do ride our
side-by-side recumbent tandem, but it's highly visible and about 4' wide
about 3 gallons of Jill's Custom Injector Cleaner (3/4 gasoline, 1/4 diesel)
into the truck's gas tank.
I know she'll never be able to live that one down. BTW, how's the CW
running these days?
Kevin in Hillsboro, (soon to be moving to Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Usually a noisy ball joint is making noise because it's shot -- grease
won't restore it.
How long can a rusty, squeaky ball joint last, and what happens in the end?
It sounds like the passenger's side lower ball joint on my W126 300sD is
really groaning whenever the wheel is turned, that
I don't really want to take the chance that such a catastrophic failure may
happen with the 300SD. Before it's driven anymore, I plan to at least jack
it up and check to see where the groaning noise is coming from. It doesn't
groan or creak when going over bumps, but I'm sure that it can be
No, it certainly isn't worth taking it to the hairy end. Lucky is one
thing, but stupid is quite another. It hasn't been driven for a while, and
won't be driven much other than to the shop.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
A few years ago, My dad and I had a '79 Mercury Bobcat AKA Ford Pinto (don't
laugh!). It was a fine original car that needed a few minor things, but the
2.3L 4 cyl engine ran very well with 131Kmi on it. It needed shocks, but I
had no idea about the bad ball joints until we jacked it up. The
but after the 170D I am
just stuck. Got lust in my heart and can not look at another car.
Buy that 170D and give Gump to me. You just don't see 170D's every day, a
pretty rare car! Gump is rare too and would look quite nice in the driveway
alongside the '83 300SD which is quite commonplace
hitting the limit of cars one can sell in a year before having to get
a dealer license.
What's the limit? Does one have to register each and every car in his/her
name prior to selling them? If not, there would be no paper trail.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Since I am now saving up for the 170D, I can not
afford another w115
The 72 220D would be great, but I would also like to find a decent '75 or
'76 300D, the car that got me interested in MB Diesels.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
I will not be needing a 2008 C class car.
Me neither. Besides, the $8,500 I've invested in my MB Diesels to date over
the past 5 years cost me an average of $141 per month. Of course, some
smarter choices along the way like not selling or not buying certain cars
or, starting out with a
they make a pretty nasty
noise once they are dry (related to turning the steering wheel).
Yep, that's what's goin' on with my '83 300sD (right front) right now. As
soon as the budget permits, I'm planning to replace the offending joint.
While I'm on the subject, should I just replace both of
Man! You get back into town today, and you get right down to business!
What a guy!
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula
I have a friend who has a dealer's license, so if I wanted to buy and sell
that many cars, I could possibly work something out with him. All I really
want is two dependable and reasonably nice Mercedes Diesels, one of them
being a 300tD Station Wagon, the 'SD and possibly a W115 of some sort.
Could it have a plugged trap on it that's never been replaced with the new
revised parts?
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula
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I STOLE it for less than
luther sold his SD for. I cant believe the guy sold it that cheap. I
could turn around and sell it for 8k today.
That would be about 1/4 of the bluebook on that thing, and you got all the
maintenance records too! SCOOORE Where do you
find
My '83 300SD has a leak at the upper right corner of the windshield. I
anticipate needing a new gasket there as well as the rear glass since water
also leaks into the trunk. Does anything need to be done with the
aerodynamic trim on each side of the windshield? I want to have this
removed
GM is already doing this with OnStar.
My mom got an email the other day that her '06 HHR was due for an oil
change. I believe it'll also pass on imfo regarding any computer fault
codes.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula with no onboard computer unless my laptop is in
the back
I'm droolin' over here too! However, he didn't have the rods replaced,
so...?
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300sD 267Kmi, Ursula
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whatever that minivan thing is
It's the R class, kind of looks like a Pacifica from what I've heard.
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Have you changed the oil yet? If not, do you know what's in the crankcase?
For all you know, it could be something slightly thicker than water which
would explain the problem. There are MANY out there who don't use Diesel
rated oils in their diesels. In other words, if you haven't already
Turns out the wiring was fried inside Under valve
covers
They have wiring running inside the valve cover amid all the oil? What a
funky design! Are all of these modern Diesels set up this way?
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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It's really hard to grab the keys for the dodge over the ford. The new dodge
leaves a LOT to be desired.
Tell me more. What am I in for? I have a '06 Ram 2500 SLT 2wd with the
Cummins in it and a 48RE automatic behind it. It does pretty well although
the '94 5 speed, '97 auto and '99 auto
The SERIOUS problems start when the warranty ends, and the vehicles begin to
self destruct the moment you've paid them off. I guess I've got 2 years to
enjoy this Dodge since I didn't buy the extended warranty, hahahahaha! It's
a good thing that the 300SD will still be running.
Kevin in
Yes, Dan. The locks on my '83 300SD have been inoperative since I've owned
the car. The pump goes until it times out (30 seconds IIRC), but nothing
happens other than the fuel door locking (found this out when attempting to
fuel up and had to open it manually). Luckily enough, I did it
My old 115 is
pretty square. That does not bother me however. It is getting to where all
of the new cars look alike. I'm unique!
Randy,
I do like the W115 Mercedes style, it's timeless! My W126 is a much more
modern looking car, but it's the solidness of any OLDER Mercedes that's most
saw a sweet-looking BMW 3.0CS coupe today - what vintage is that style car?
Early/mid 70's, IIRC. Speaking of early 70's BMW's, I also like the styling
of the 2002's. A neighbor of mine had a '74, kind of a beater that ran
well, pretty straight with oxidized paint. He wouldn't sell it to me
123s - on the news in some foreign war-torn country being used by
guerillas, warlords, or dignitaries,
My first Diesel Mercedes, a '78 300D, got the name Taliban Sedan by one
of the neighbors.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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Hi, Bob. Two out of the three '78 300D's that I had did have working ACC
systems, and neither had fan speeds anywhere near the defroster speed when
in any other mode on high. I never knew why or if this was the nature of
the beast. The '83 300SD does blow at similar fan speed on high AC or
These Saturn owners need to drive an old Mercedes Diesel around for a while.
I'm SURE GLAD that I was able to talk my Dad out of buying a Saturn. I
thought they were cheap and cheesy and ha poor fit and finish as well as
LOUSY interior comfort and room. The VW Jetta Wagon was a smaller car
Well, we've had a change of heart. Wifey is the Vice President of the
local dragon boat club, and also happens to be the only one or who's spouse
has a large enough and powerful enough truck to pull the trailerand boats.
The total weight is around 8000#. The organization is too cheap to get
the 2.2 ecotec is the best 4 gm has ever made.
My Parents' little HHR has the 2.4L Ecotec engine in it, hopefully as robust
as the 2.2L version. It puts out 174hp, not a rocket by any means.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
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as the average customer for a buick park avenue is 104 years old, however,
few people really know this.
A friend of mine in his late 40's used to sell Buicks, and he had a Park
Avenue Ultra for a while. He did believe in the 3.8L engine. He had a '92
Century that had some other V6 (3.3L
Great points, Mike. Wifey and I do feel the same way and don't want
ourselves or our truck to be involved with EVERY transport just because it's
big and powerful enough. The board member previously discussed does help
with his truck since the gear is more than even a long bed pickup can
What would it cost for the club to rent a tow vehicle on race weekend?
Surely less than the cost of somebody owning a late model large truck.
This is true, and exactly what happened this last time. They rented a truck
with a 16' box on it that also served as the boat transporter. It did the
Once again, great points! I can't imagine the boat weighing more than that
Model T. Do you know which engine he had in it? Oh, I just remembered that
the caravans equipped with the 3.0 Mitsu engine came with a 3 speed auto W/O
OD behind it, and you mentioned that his van had OD indicating
to my mind, 174hp out of 2.4 liter naturally aspirated motor with a lot of
torque is A ROCKET by any means.
Well, I guess it's because I haven't driven it to see what it could
actually do (blind people can't drive, stupid law! -:). Mama doesn't really
put her foot into it no matter how much I
That was quite amusing, Tom! I should add that the Braille is not on the
screen where it's actually needed. I still have to have a sighted person
help me with those things. It's easier to just go into the bank and take
care of things with an actual person.
Blindness does have it's advantages
And the doors at the grocery say No dogs except for seeing eye dogs.
Think about it.
I guess it's there to inform those who bring pet doggies into the store. My
seeing eye dog (Guide Dog) Joel reads all of the signs and can tell when
lights are red or green too :-)! I've just got to get him
We've had 3 3.3L vans in the family, a 1990 Dodge Grand caravan, a 1991
Plymouth Voyager and a '05 Chrysler TC. We also had a '97 Grand Caravan
with the 3.8L engine (don't know how similar this one is to the 3.3L). I've
heard of the valve geometry problem with the Mitsu's and have been
I suspect the engine was cold would not start?
Exactly right, Tom. Once the valves were adjusted, I could hear the
compression strokes MUCH MORE DISTINCTLY while it was being turned over by
the starter prior to firing up. The PO said that it got harder and harder
to start until one day,
Yes, Sunil. I was trying to be funny. Joel knows nothing about lights and
colors, but he does know that it's not safe to cross a street when cars are
whizzing by his nose at highway speeds. Of course, he would take me across
a street even with a red light if there were no cars, but also, he
http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html
Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to have this
engine/tranny lying around. How would a 616 or 617 fit into this chassis?
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Luckily, nothing has happened while people's personal vehicles have been
transporting gear and boats. However, up until recently, there was no such
insurance which infuriated me! The question came up at a board meeting (how
much insurance do we have, and does it cover personal vehicles even
Might want to have them watch the DoveBid auctions and get a Frito Lay
vanWould work great for that and the Cummins powered ones get
close to 30MPG loaded.
Do you think one of these Cummins 4BT or 4BTA equipped vans could be fully
loaded and pull 6500# worth of boats behind it?
a beater 240D on Craigs list here (Austin, TX) this
morning for $5000. I couldn't give away a 1984 300D in about the same
shape for $1500 several years ago.
No kidding! I can't believe the number of Mercedes diesels around here that
are priced around 4K that need AC recharging (probably need
dont know why the 126's go cheaper than the 123's of the same years
(diesels that is).
My guess is that it's the size of the W126's that makes them less appealing.
Perhaps, they're looked down upon for being the older person's car rather
than the much more hip 240D. I really like the quieter
many of the bio-crazy purchasers
of Benzes are out of their depth, with neither the will nor the cash
to take proper care of an old car.
There was a gray 300SD bouncing and clattering away at a red light here in
downtown Portland the other day. My first thought was Let me work on that
thing!!
Yea, I guess the 126 does still have a modern look to it where as the 123 is
more classic now.
I would be more interested in a W115 (either a '76 300D or a '72 220D) to
accompany the 300SD. I'll be on the lookout for one in September when I've
got some money saved up. Most tend to be in
JHFC!
Now, that's a new one for me. What does it mean?
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I'm tempted to look at a diesel Cherokee but a v6 GMC diesel, thats gotta be
the 4.3 which IIRC is 85hp...
85HP out of 4.3L? What a PIG! I'm sure it weighs more than a NA 617 too,
and that puts out 88HP with 3.0L displacement. what did the original
Renault put out? Was that a 2.2L NA 4
my new C300, due in about ninety days,
Gas or Diesel?
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Hood was open so I got out and see smoke coming from the
transmission. Manual trans, and nasty burnt ATF smell.
How big of a pooch did I screw on this one?
Now's my chance to buy a '72 220D! Would you take $501 for it? :-)
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
You'll have to fight me for it, Kevin. One of those $100 240D trannies from
Benz Friends and we're back in business... ;)
Well, I think you'd be able to get there faster than me because you can
drive! I sure did like that old 220D junker I had a couple years ago other
than its rusted trunk
I thought it was the American way to use a pressure washer on anything you
can't clean with a leafblower.
That's exactly how our neighbor was. One day, he even got the bright idea
to dry off his truck with his leafblower.
Kevin in Portland, OR
1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula
Now quit that idle chatter and let me think about how I am going to salvage
this mess.
The vultures are circling... :-)
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There'sa Jeep liberty sitting out in my parking lot right now that is badged
Cherokee!
Strange things happen when you cross the pond.
I've encountered this while googling Diesel Cherokee only to find stuff
about what is actually our Diesel Liberty in England and Australia.
Recently, I've found
It has a 258 inline 6 but we are
advised that the engine has been changed and is from a newer vehicle.
Our '82 AMC Eagle wagon had that engine in it. We found out after we
purchased it that The rear main along with the VC gasket was leaking badly,
the timing chain was practically falling off,
Well, it's happened to me! Pops decided to check the fluids yesterday in my
300SD, and now, it won't shut off with the key. He mentioned that he had
dropped the brake fluid can either before or after he topped it off, and I'm
guessing that this is what knocked a line off somewhere around the
What is wrong with me?
You've got the MB Dieselitis Bug, and the only cure is to have at least one
Mercedes Diesel in the driveway. The W124 300TD is an excellent choice, but
what about that simple '74 240D W115 you've been longin' for? There's only
one thing to do, buy 'em both!
Kevin in
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