[MBZ] Sorry for any spam recently!!

2013-02-09 Thread E M
Hey Everyone,

Sorry for any weird links you may have recently received.  My account was
hacked yesterday, and several have mentioned they have received a strange
link to some diet site or something.  Please disregard any links arriving
from my email address, as I seldom send links in email messages.

I've run several HD checks, and all seems fine with my computer, as well as
changing passwords.  So I hope this is an end to any spam or other junk,
received by friends from my account!

If anyone receives any further spam, from this email address, please let me
know, so I can address it, or set up a new account or something.

Again, sorry for any hassles guys!!!  I don't send out bulk messages to
friends, but I have sent this message to all on my contact list.  I sent
the addresses by way of Bcc, so as to respect the privacy of everyone's
addresses.  Hope I didn't mess it up, being the techie goof that I am!!!

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles

2012-03-10 Thread E M
Some people feel that driving a bike down the autobahn at speed, in the
company of those who understand lane discipline and the importance of
keeping their eyes on their mirrors, rather than checking their messages on
their phone, is inappropriate material for eyes under the age of 18 to view.

Search the title in YouTube.  It should come up without having to sign in,
or up.  Maybe you have the settings on YouTube set to family filter or
something.  Even so, nothing inappropriate about the content, in my
opinion.

Ed
300E

On 10 March 2012 15:04, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:12:06 -0600 Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
 wrote:

  On Mar 8, 2012, at 10:08 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I tend to think of bikes like these, as
   being sport bikes.
  
   http://youtu.be/KqcdtsQpKrQ
 
  You can tell that's not the US. Drivers actually are getting out of the
  way.

 So I finally get around to looking at this and get a page that says,

  YAMAHA R1 Not too slow... 300km/h

  This content may contain material flagged by YouTube's user
  community that may be inappropriate for some users.

  To view this video please verify you are 18 or older by signing in
  or signing up.

 First off, Huh?

 Second, No, I will not sign up.

 Third, how could a video of a motorcycle driving down a road be
 inappropriate?


 Craig

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Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?

2012-03-09 Thread E M
Thanks Barry.

Ed

On 9 March 2012 03:00, Barry Stark barryst...@verizon.net wrote:

 Ed -
 Go to www.gowesty.com

 Barry



 Any idea of the best place to look for these?



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Re: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles

2012-03-09 Thread E M
A Goldwing is for people who really want a Honda Accord, but prefer to
drive around with no doors.

Ed
300E

On 9 March 2012 08:45, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Goldwing is for sure a good bike but its a HUGE bike. Its really a
 barcalounger on 2 wheels...

 I'm not sure I'm old enough for a Goldwing ;)

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 20:03:34 -0600
 From: Mountain Man maontin@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles
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 Curt wrote:
  Thats a joke right? I post an R65 and you come back with Goldwing?

 Goldwing is a strong bike as far as I hear.  My son has 4 or 5
 airheads.  He could advise you on the airheads - he rebuilds them to
 better than showroom new.  There is huge number of airhead riders.
 Search airheads and watch adventurerider - advrider - Old's Cool
 forum.  There might be a sales forum there also.  airheads dot org has
 a sales forum.
 mao


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Re: [MBZ] rusty SL

2012-03-09 Thread E M
What are you talking about, couple of micowave panels, tube or two of
shoegoo, and she'll be all set for Pebble Beach for well under 2 grand. hee
hee.

Ed
300E

On 9 March 2012 09:35, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 For once we agree. I was thinking $2,000 would be a good price for the
 paintjob. Prep of course will be extra.
 I bet you could spend $8k without working hard at it.

 -Curt

 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 23:46:58 -0500 (EST)
 From: relng...@aol.com
 To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] rusty SL
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  it still rolls, so not a junk yard car, but it is closer to how Gump
  was when I got her.? Worth another $2k to bring her back?...
 
 I can see you haven't priced rust repair of late.

 RLE
 
 


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Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?

2012-03-09 Thread E M
Thanks Allan, lots of good info there!

Ed
300E

On 9 March 2012 10:33, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I would go for the last gen Vanagon with Westy kit.  (I think '91 was
 the last year for the USA, not sure about Canada).

 That will get you air conditioning (at least the chance of it, it may
 not work).  All the water-cooled Vanagons have decent heat, particularly
 in comparison to the earlier air-cooled Vanagons and microbuses.

 The 2.1 l boxer engine is a weak point, often develop head gasket leaks,
 religous coolant changes may help avoid issues but it's fundamentally a
 bad design.  The Digifant engine management system is rather primitive
 as well, and at 20+ years of age the electronics are no longer really
 reliable.

 Check engine compartment fuel hoses for cracks, several are positioned
 right above the exhaust and if they start leaking you'll have good
 chance for a fire.

 Many people swap in a Subaru engine or even a Ford Zetec (see
 http://www.bostig.com) as much for reliability as additional power.

 Be sure you run the proper tires, the vehicles are heavy and need a load
 range C tire.  The Hankook RA-08 are favored among Vanagon owners.

 A westy in good condition, properly maintained and with a professional
 engine transplant will not be cheap.  Then again, a cheap Westy is about
 like a cheap Mercedes.

 Allan


 Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:

  I think '79 or '80 was the last year for the proper microbus, after that
 you get into the Vanagon which I'll admit has grown on me over the years.
 The 2l engine in the Vanagon is a monster for power compared to the early
 1600cc.
 
  Best would be to find one with a no-rust body but a tired or completely
 dead engine. IIRC for $3k you can do a really nice brand new engine. $3k in
 paint isn't a whole lot on something so tall and long.
 
  I'd love to have one too, my wife and I dream of someday driving across
 the US and a VW is our #2 choice. Number 1 would be a 123 300TD turbo. The
 MB wagon is such a nice driving car and a wagon would have plenty of space
 for stuff and an air mattress for occasional camping for 2.
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:35:30 -0500
  From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?
  Message-ID:
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  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
 
  Hey Guys,
 
  As we're talking about alternative modes of transport, do any of you have
  any experience with old VW campers?  I've always wanted one, but have no
  idea of what the current market is.  I'd like an older 70-80s one.  Older
  would be cool, but I suspect the price for a decent one would be quite
  high.  Redoing paint, interior, brakes and tires and such would be fine,
  but I'd want one with a good solid body (work in that area previously
 done)
  and a sound engine, that just needs going over and having the rubber bits
  replaced.
 
  Any idea of the best place to look for these?
 
  Any thoughts on these welcome.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
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Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?

2012-03-09 Thread E M
Thanks Peter.  I've always thought the campers were really cool.  If I were
to get one, it would never really go further than an hour or so up the
road, to my local race track.  Not to track it, but for the long weekends
which some events are held over.  A/C and heat are not really high on my
list, as it really would be just a weekend toy, so roughing it a bit would
probably add to the experience.  Just want it to be sound, and go down the
road reasonable safely (as safely as the car will allow anyway, given my
knees will be the crumple zone in the event of an accident, hee hee).

Thanks again for your tips and suggestions Peter.

Ed
300E

On 9 March 2012 12:09, Peter Hertzing phertz...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have owened a 1985 Westy with the 1.9L and an Auto.  It was a great cross
 country camping mobile as long as you were not in a hurry to get anywhere,
 and creature comforts, such as air conditioning and the power to cross the
 continental divide in a day are not on your list of requierments for
 reliable transportation.

 That being said, we loved it.  Sold it when campting time was reduced du to
 added children.  I rebuilt an engine and it was pretty easy and low cost.
 (note this is how I learned not to drive it over about 65 MPH)  the
 greatest reliability comes at about 60MPH.  I added lowering springs which
 reduced ground clerance but sure added to the stability on the road.

 Now that I am no longer a nomad I miss my days in my VW.

 1982.5 was the first year for water cooled.  If heat is important to you,
 this is the only way to go.  I will not speak for anyone else - but my
 experience has been that the water cooled models were more reliable.  The
 head issue is true - but can be avoided with a properly assembled engine
 and teh proper coolant and proper coolant changes. Tires are important, and
 using your head is important as well.  Dont' over load it.  Don't dirve it
 over 65 mph.

 If you can drive an old mercedes you can drive and old vw vanagon.

 I also had a 1974 airheated vw camper.  Had its advanatges and
 disadvatages, but I found the cost of operation and the carb made it less
 reliable.

 Hope this helps - I still have some parts so let me know if you get one.

 Peter

 On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 9:39 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  Thanks Allan, lots of good info there!
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 9 March 2012 10:33, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:
 
   I would go for the last gen Vanagon with Westy kit.  (I think '91 was
   the last year for the USA, not sure about Canada).
  
   That will get you air conditioning (at least the chance of it, it may
   not work).  All the water-cooled Vanagons have decent heat,
 particularly
   in comparison to the earlier air-cooled Vanagons and microbuses.
  
   The 2.1 l boxer engine is a weak point, often develop head gasket
 leaks,
   religous coolant changes may help avoid issues but it's fundamentally a
   bad design.  The Digifant engine management system is rather
 primitive
   as well, and at 20+ years of age the electronics are no longer really
   reliable.
  
   Check engine compartment fuel hoses for cracks, several are positioned
   right above the exhaust and if they start leaking you'll have good
   chance for a fire.
  
   Many people swap in a Subaru engine or even a Ford Zetec (see
   http://www.bostig.com) as much for reliability as additional power.
  
   Be sure you run the proper tires, the vehicles are heavy and need a
 load
   range C tire.  The Hankook RA-08 are favored among Vanagon owners.
  
   A westy in good condition, properly maintained and with a professional
   engine transplant will not be cheap.  Then again, a cheap Westy is
 about
   like a cheap Mercedes.
  
   Allan
  
  
   Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com writes:
  
I think '79 or '80 was the last year for the proper microbus, after
  that
   you get into the Vanagon which I'll admit has grown on me over the
 years.
   The 2l engine in the Vanagon is a monster for power compared to the
 early
   1600cc.
   
Best would be to find one with a no-rust body but a tired or
 completely
   dead engine. IIRC for $3k you can do a really nice brand new engine.
 $3k
  in
   paint isn't a whole lot on something so tall and long.
   
I'd love to have one too, my wife and I dream of someday driving
 across
   the US and a VW is our #2 choice. Number 1 would be a 123 300TD turbo.
  The
   MB wagon is such a nice driving car and a wagon would have plenty of
  space
   for stuff and an air mattress for occasional camping for 2.
   
-Curt
   
Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2012 01:35:30 -0500
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To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?
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Hey Guys,
   
As we're talking about alternative modes of transport, do any of you

Re: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles

2012-03-09 Thread E M
Wasn't ABS first introduced on these early R75s ?

Ed
300E

On 9 March 2012 15:44, Scott Ritchey ritche...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I had an R75 back in the 70s and it was a fine machine, in its day.  My
 perspective is dated because I quit riding in 1981 (job and relocation
 reasons).  I'd be concerned about an air-cooled engine with that many
 miles;
 you might want a compression test, as a minimum.  It is a mechanically
 simple motor but the carbs can be tricky.  The shaft drive eliminated a lot
 of maintenance and problems common to other bikes of that era.  But I can't
 help but think there must be many newer and more advanced machines out
 there
 these days.  The opposed two was smooth compared to the vertical, hard
 mounted motors of the day but still rough compared to a water-cooled Honda.

 Scott

 -Original Message-
 From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
 On Behalf Of Curt Raymond
 Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2012 7:07 PM
 To: Diesel List
 Subject: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles

 I know we've got some motorcycle heads on here...

 I'm thinking this is the year for me to get a different ride, right now
 we've got an '89 Kawasaki 454 LTD for the wife and an '82 Honda CB900f for
 me. She didn't ride at all last year and I only rode a little. Part of it
 is
 the Honda isn't really a highway bike and my commute is all highway. I'd
 ride a standard or sport/touring bike more. The Honda's forward lean is too
 uncomfortable for my wrists long term.

 So I've started looking and found an '82 BMW R65 with only 70,000 miles. My
 Honda has 45k, that kind of mileage doesn't scare me although it does some
 folks. I remember reading somewhere (here maybe) that some of the older
 BMWs
 were a handful because they were kind of primitive. I guess I need some
 guidance. I'm thinking to spend not more than $2000 which is more than both
 bikes I have now combined.
 Remember I live in New England, our riding season is kind of compressed. I
 usually get the bikes out in May and we're done by October. Sometimes
 theres
 a run into November but not often so a big money bike ain't happening.

 -Curt

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Re: [MBZ] BMW motorcycles

2012-03-08 Thread E M
Touring bike, yes.  Sport bike, erm, not so sure I'm convinced, or that it
fits my definition of sport bike.  I tend to think of bikes like these, as
being sport bikes.

http://youtu.be/KqcdtsQpKrQ

Ed
300E

On 8 March 2012 21:34, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:


  Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2012 17:13:06 -0800
  From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
 
  Thats a joke right? I post an R65 and you come back with Goldwing?
 
  I want a midsize bike, 500-750cc. I'm actually quite pleased with the
 power available (32hp) with the Kawi 454, it'll do 80+mph with 200+lbs of
 me on board.
 

 Not a joke. Original post said:

   From: curtlud...@yahoo.com
  
   I know we've got some motorcycle heads on here...
  
   Part of it is the Honda isn't really a highway bike and my commute is
 all highway. I'd ride a standard or sport/touring bike more. The Honda's
 forward lean is too uncomfortable for my wrists long term.

 Nothing there about mid-size. You wrote sport/touring bike.

 It is obvious that the Goldwing is a touring bike.

 These videos should be convincing enough to show it as a
 sport bike also.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nrMQ3QwyPo

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSVg3Gg4LmA

 Rick

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Re: [MBZ] VW Westfalia campers?

2012-03-08 Thread E M
Hey Guys,

As we're talking about alternative modes of transport, do any of you have
any experience with old VW campers?  I've always wanted one, but have no
idea of what the current market is.  I'd like an older 70-80s one.  Older
would be cool, but I suspect the price for a decent one would be quite
high.  Redoing paint, interior, brakes and tires and such would be fine,
but I'd want one with a good solid body (work in that area previously done)
and a sound engine, that just needs going over and having the rubber bits
replaced.

Any idea of the best place to look for these?

Any thoughts on these welcome.

Ed
300E
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Re: [MBZ] OT-Burn those 78rpm

2012-03-02 Thread E M
Forget converting to MP3, just open a bottle of wine, sit back, and enjoy
the pleasure of listening to an old 78 as is.  :-)

Ed
300E

On 2 March 2012 20:58, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:


 Anyone know how the quality of recording off this would compare to a
 midrange turntable from the 70s with a good shure cartridge?

 It sounds tempting, especially if Clay could snag it and ship it to me.


  
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/**see/ele/2880883467.htmlhttp://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ele/2880883467.html

 This should solve the need a lister had to get the old vinyl into MP3


 clay

 1972 220D - Gump - She is green, simple and ran
 1995 E300D - Cleo - Used by the Queen of Denial
 POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers






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Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas

2012-02-27 Thread E M
Sorry to hear they're losing money.  They haven't been available here in
Canada for decades now.  I've always liked them, and I think they're still
some of the best looking cars in Europe.  I drove a small one all over the
North of Italy, and it was a blast.  It was a 2.0L engine, which was the
largest the rental place could offer me.  I filled it up (with premium),
which was selling for just over twice what premium was in Canada at the
time.  Not sure how many litres to fill the tank, but I got near 1000kms
out of it, and I wasn't messing about.  I took full advantage of the
Autostrada, and all the mountain passes! ;-)

It was just a basic rental car, but everything felt good...the brakes,
steering, and manual trans.  Just enough understeer to keep the old ladies
out of the ditch, but not so much that a hooligan like me couldn't still
have a little fun through the twisty bits. hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 27 February 2012 10:53, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Peugeot is losing money.  They are in talks with GM about some sort of
 alliance.


 http://www.freep.com/article/20120222/BUSINESS01/202220465/France-confirms-GM-Peugeot-Citroen-negotiating-possible-alliance

 Gerry

  On 26 February 2012 22:33, Rich Thomas 
 richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
  wrote:
  Last summer in Spain I rented a Peugeot diesel wagon, 5spd, it was brand
  new when I picked it up at the airport.  I was pleasantly surprised at
 what
  a nice car it was -- hauled 4 of us and all our stuff for 9 days on
  high-speed roads and back roads and in town, A/C running (blowing ice
  cold!) and I figured (with all the conversions of liters and kms) that
 it
  was getting over 40mpg.  I really wonder why we cannot buy cars like
 that
  here, and get over all this nonsense with electric scooters that are of
  limited usefulness in all but very restricted circumstances.  Even a
 Pious
  does not do much better than that, and probably not as good in highway
  driving.
 
  I don't have strong opinions about them otherwise except -- let the car
  companies build and sell them without subsidies from the gummint (i.e.,
 you
  and me, or those who pay taxes) and let them live or die in the market.
  If
  someone wants to pay huge money for one, so be it, I hope they are
 happy.
   But don't make me pay for their indulgence when there are much better
  alternatives out there (e.g., the Peugeot diesel wagon).
 
  --R
 
  On 2/26/12 10:21 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:
 
  Saw one in 2K10 at google I/O, they were still billing it as an
 electric
  car at that point, no mention of a fuel system.
 
  My understanding is that it was designed as a commuter car to get you
 from
  point A.0 to A.5 since point B.0 was a bit too far away.
 
  Walt
  On Feb 26, 2012 10:12 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu
  wrote:
 
   Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com  writes:
 
   For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25
 miles
  before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.
 
  I thought the Volt was a series hybrid, the engine powers a generator
  which drives the wheel motors.  It has a modest battery pack to
 recover
  energy from braking and to help out off the line, but it was never
  really intended to go far on batteries alone.  Is that correct?
 
   Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on
 the
  battery.
 
  Disappointing.  A modern diesel in a similar-sized car would do close
 to
  double that.
 
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Re: [MBZ] slooow

2012-02-27 Thread E M
Your drop back and charge approach is exactly how Sterling Moss described
how to properly overtake when passing, in his book on how to drive in a
safe sporting style.  Book was probably published in the 50s, as I recall
there was a chapter on bias ply tires.  hee hee.

Then there are times, when way to much power feels like just about the
right amount for the job at hand. ;-)  hee hee

Ed
300E

On 27 February 2012 11:07, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 On 25/02/2012 10:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration
 department.  The words dangerously slow tend to come to mind.
 One of the few cars I've ever driven that could not keep speed
 up some of our highway hills in this State...

  And my 77hp '78 300D could not climb eastbound Snoqualmie Pass at full
 throttle without shifting down to 3rd which means 45mph in a 60 zone.

 RLE

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 and approach at speed. If the way is clear, go around and if not, then slow
 back down and wait for another opportunity. It helps if one knows the road
 well and thus knows where the passing areas are.

 However, there are spots where it is not possible to do that. Coming out
 of Kenora onto the westbound highway at the western edge of the bypass is
 one of those spots. One must come to a complete stop and then make a left
 turn  at a T intersection onto the highway. It is an uphill grade for the
 next half mile or more. Not steep but enough to make it difficult to
 accererate up to 60 mph in any sort of reasonable period of time. Then
 there is the traffic approaching from behind at highway speeds including
 many big trucks. Cannot really be avoided unless one takes a totally
 different route through town and gets onto the bypass sooner, further east,
 but I normally don't think to do that because I only take the car out to
 the lake, maybe once each year. Always makes me somewhat nervous to do that
 turn however. Can get over onto the shoulder and let vehicles pass me if
 necessary  but that is not the safest thing to do with the big trucks
 either as they cannot give you a whole lot of space if there is oncoming
 traffic as it is only a 2 lane highway.

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Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas

2012-02-27 Thread E M
I would suggest that one of the main reasons for not seeing more diesels in
North America, is the stigma they still carry as being dirty oil burners.
There is a large market of potential diesels buyers, who not only don't
remember the problems GM had in the 80s, but also weren't driving, or
perhaps even born at the time.

Gas has been, and is still quite cheap here, but if things continue as they
are, maybe the marketing guys can use the potential savings in running
costs of a diesel, over the slightly higher purchase price, to make them
look like a good alternative to gas, or plug in cars.  Diesels have also
been pitched as the utilitarian alternative (which many interpret as truck
like).  In Europe, you can find every high end car, fully loaded, with a
diesel engine.  Here, they are often stripped down versions, of their
gasser counterpart.  Again, maybe perceptions, and choices will change in
the coming years.

Ed
300E

On 27 February 2012 14:35, OK Don okd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Umm - wrong. It's not the EPA, we can buy Diesels here now. Just go to your
 local MB dealer (or VW, etc,). It's the lack of an informed market here.
 They're not going to bring cars over that they can't sell because the US
 still thinks of the GM Diesels from the 80's.

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  Last summer in Spain I rented a Peugeot diesel wagon, 5spd, it was brand
  new when I picked it up at the airport.  I was pleasantly surprised at
 what
  a nice car it was -- hauled 4 of us and all our stuff for 9 days on
  high-speed roads and back roads and in town, A/C running (blowing ice
  cold!) and I figured (with all the conversions of liters and kms) that
 it
  was getting over 40mpg.  I really wonder why we cannot buy cars like
 that
  here,
 
 
  That is easy:  EPA
 
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Re: [MBZ] slooow

2012-02-27 Thread E M
One of my early cars was a Chev Chevette.  I remember having to stick a wet
finger out the window as I was approaching an on ramp to the highway, to
get a wind direction reading.  If I got a head wind, I knew merging was
going to be a white knuckle affair!

Having a passenger along in that car was always a bonus though.  I could
get them to stick one leg out the door, to help out when overtaking. ;-)
hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 27 February 2012 14:37, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

 I have had plenty of practice over the years. I have had lots of low
 powered vehicles. My father was always more interested in fuel economy than
 horsepower and I suppose to a great extent I have followed that route too.
 I have had a - 64 Anglia with an engine smaller than most motorcycles
 today, a  65 Mustang with the 170 cid inline 6, a 67 Chevy half ton truck
 with a 250 cid 6, a 74 Vega, and a 77 Monarch with a 250 cid 6 - none of
 which was any peppier than my 115 300D.

 Randy

 On 27/02/2012 12:42 PM, E M wrote:

 Your drop back and charge approach is exactly how Sterling Moss described
 how to properly overtake when passing, in his book on how to drive in a
 safe sporting style.  Book was probably published in the 50s, as I recall
 there was a chapter on bias ply tires.  hee hee.

 Then there are times, when way to much power feels like just about the
 right amount for the job at hand. ;-)  hee hee

 Ed
 300E

 On 27 February 2012 11:07, Randy Bennellrbenn...@bennell.ca  wrote:

  On 25/02/2012 10:21 PM, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  An automatic 240D (we had one) is very un-fun in the acceleration

 department.  The words dangerously slow tend to come to mind.
 One of the few cars I've ever driven that could not keep speed
 up some of our highway hills in this State...

  And my 77hp '78 300D could not climb eastbound Snoqualmie Pass at full

 throttle without shifting down to 3rd which means 45mph in a 60 zone.

 RLE

 ___

  I would agree with you. Most of the time, one can compensate to some

 extent by pre-planning one's moves. Need to pass someone? -  then drop
 back
 and approach at speed. If the way is clear, go around and if not, then
 slow
 back down and wait for another opportunity. It helps if one knows the
 road
 well and thus knows where the passing areas are.

 However, there are spots where it is not possible to do that. Coming out
 of Kenora onto the westbound highway at the western edge of the bypass is
 one of those spots. One must come to a complete stop and then make a left
 turn  at a T intersection onto the highway. It is an uphill grade for the
 next half mile or more. Not steep but enough to make it difficult to
 accererate up to 60 mph in any sort of reasonable period of time. Then
 there is the traffic approaching from behind at highway speeds including
 many big trucks. Cannot really be avoided unless one takes a totally
 different route through town and gets onto the bypass sooner, further
 east,
 but I normally don't think to do that because I only take the car out to
 the lake, maybe once each year. Always makes me somewhat nervous to do
 that
 turn however. Can get over onto the shoulder and let vehicles pass me if
 necessary  but that is not the safest thing to do with the big trucks
 either as they cannot give you a whole lot of space if there is oncoming
 traffic as it is only a 2 lane highway.

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Re: [MBZ] Volt vs. Gas

2012-02-26 Thread E M
I agree.  There are many great cars that could and should be offered to the
North American market, which aren't.

While this may not be everyone's dream car, I bet they could sell millions
here.  I know it's just what I'd like, for running Rover to the park, and
to do the shopping in.  I'd trade my minivan in a heartbeat for one.

http://www.conceptcarz.com/z21157/Chevrolet-Cruze-Station-Wagon.aspx

Ed
300E

On 26 February 2012 22:33, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

 Last summer in Spain I rented a Peugeot diesel wagon, 5spd, it was brand
 new when I picked it up at the airport.  I was pleasantly surprised at what
 a nice car it was -- hauled 4 of us and all our stuff for 9 days on
 high-speed roads and back roads and in town, A/C running (blowing ice
 cold!) and I figured (with all the conversions of liters and kms) that it
 was getting over 40mpg.  I really wonder why we cannot buy cars like that
 here, and get over all this nonsense with electric scooters that are of
 limited usefulness in all but very restricted circumstances.  Even a Pious
 does not do much better than that, and probably not as good in highway
 driving.

 I don't have strong opinions about them otherwise except -- let the car
 companies build and sell them without subsidies from the gummint (i.e., you
 and me, or those who pay taxes) and let them live or die in the market.  If
 someone wants to pay huge money for one, so be it, I hope they are happy.
  But don't make me pay for their indulgence when there are much better
 alternatives out there (e.g., the Peugeot diesel wagon).

 --R

 On 2/26/12 10:21 PM, Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 Saw one in 2K10 at google I/O, they were still billing it as an electric
 car at that point, no mention of a fuel system.

 My understanding is that it was designed as a commuter car to get you from
 point A.0 to A.5 since point B.0 was a bit too far away.

 Walt
 On Feb 26, 2012 10:12 PM, Allan Streibstr...@cs.indiana.edu  wrote:

  Hans Neureiterdiese...@gmail.com  writes:

  For four days in a row, the fully charged battery lasted only 25 miles
 before the Volt switched to the reserve gasoline engine.

 I thought the Volt was a series hybrid, the engine powers a generator
 which drives the wheel motors.  It has a modest battery pack to recover
 energy from braking and to help out off the line, but it was never
 really intended to go far on batteries alone.  Is that correct?

  Eric calculated the car got 30 mpg including the 25 miles it ran on the
 battery.

 Disappointing.  A modern diesel in a similar-sized car would do close to
 double that.

 Allan
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[MBZ] OT. turn tables ??

2012-02-25 Thread E M
Hey Guys,

Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff.  I'm getting
back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3.  I miss the quality and warmth of old
records.  Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn
table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player).  It's direct
drive, but the bed will now not slide out.  Not sure if it's just the
switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more
mechanical.

Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used
turn table?  I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market
for an amp at the moment.  Just looking for a good quality turn table, that
will work with my Sony receiver.  Something of good quality that was made
before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico.

Thanks in advance.

Ed
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Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??

2012-02-25 Thread E M
Thanks everyone for your input.  Some great suggestions, which I will
follow up on!  I had a look on eBay and as well my local CL as some
suggested.  I also spent a couple of hours today checking out LP on eBay.
Shopping for those old LPs that were loaned out years ago, and for some
reason, never returned, is going to be fun.  :-)

Thanks again everyone!

Ed
300E  (looked at some Macintosh stuff on their home page, for the car, but
as good as it might be, I think they're a bit too ugly to put in any of the
cars)

On 25 February 2012 18:19, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

 I looked on the Charleston CL, found these recent postings -- there is
 some decent stuff all the time listed:

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2855939965.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2855939965.html

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2834570881.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2834570881.html

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2870707950.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2870707950.html

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2865771097.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2865771097.html

 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2864704069.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2864704069.html

 This is a nice machine  http://charleston.craigslist.**
 org/ele/2859233805.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2859233805.html

 This guy is some kind of collector/reseller, always posting stuff
 http://charleston.craigslist.**org/ele/2844213425.htmlhttp://charleston.craigslist.org/ele/2844213425.html

 Lots of choices.  Not sure where you are but this stuff is out there all
 over the place.  For a bennie you ought to be able to find something nice.

 My buddy at the Habitat ReStore gave me some sort of turntable (a Technics
 I think, not a very good machine but it would spin a platter), the belt on
 it was broken and the cart was kinda beat, but you can get belts and
 cartridges pretty cheap.

 Do you use Audacity to rip the vinyl?

 --R (who has his Pioneer PL-51 sitting right here next to me, was my
 Christmas present in 1973, and goes nicely with my 1973 Pioneer SX-727
 receiver I bought back then -- the large Advents are downstairs hooked up
 to the TV and still shaking the walls)


 On 2/25/12 4:38 PM, E M wrote:

 Hey Guys,

 Off topic, but I know some of you guys are into this stuff.  I'm getting
 back into vinyl over CDs, and MP3.  I miss the quality and warmth of old
 records.  Anyway, I have an old mid 80s Sony receiver, and a Sony turn
 table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player).  It's direct
 drive, but the bed will now not slide out.  Not sure if it's just the
 switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more
 mechanical.

 Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality used
 turn table?  I know Macintosh make good amps, but not really in the market
 for an amp at the moment.  Just looking for a good quality turn table,
 that
 will work with my Sony receiver.  Something of good quality that was made
 before everything was outsourced to China and Mexico.

 Thanks in advance.

 Ed
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Re: [MBZ] USB turn tables

2012-02-25 Thread E M
watcha got?

Ed
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On 25 February 2012 19:41, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I have a box of 45s in their jackets, all Top Ten stuff from the 70s.  I
 repaired a pinball machine for a guy a few years ago and he paid me with a
 box of 45s (all in very good condition, I might add - he said they were
 dupes from his collection.)

 If I ever got around to cataloging them I would probably put them on eBay
 as a lot.  I suspect they have to be worth something

 Dan


 On Feb 25, 2012, at 7:23 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

  has anyone had experience with the USB turntables to convert vinyl to
 digital?  None I have seen  will do 78, but they should work with my LPs.
 
  seems like a simple solution
 
  My pioneer turntable won't do 78s either.
 
  I have a stack of 78s that I'd like to convert.  I guess I could use my
 1950 vintage Monkey Ward multimedia center and cut into the wires from the
 turntable to convert the 78s.  It does 78 and 45 only.
 
 
  Rich's list of Chucktown audio equip is mostly too new for me.  But I'd
 like to have his Pioneer SX-727 receiver.  That is right in the vintage I
 want.
 
  My old 626 has been flawless except for a couple lights burning out in
 40 years of use.  Still have not found a source for the light bulbs.
 
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Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??

2012-02-25 Thread E M
I can't hear any motor at all when I hit the open switch.  If you still
think it's the belt, I'll pull it apart and see if I can find a belt
online.  I've seen them for other players, and they seem pretty cheap.

Thanks,

Ed
300E

On 25 February 2012 20:47, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 table, that is a front loader (slides out like a CD player).  It's direct
 drive, but the bed will now not slide out.  Not sure if it's just the
 switch (Sony switch always felt fragile to me), or something more
 mechanical.


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Re: [MBZ] OT. turn tables ??

2012-02-25 Thread E M
Thanks!

Ed
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On 25 February 2012 21:04, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Join up to your local Freecycle site and post a wanted for turntable.
  Bound to be some gathering dust in somebody's basement.  I picked up a
 turntable from one guy and a receiver from another.  Speakers from yet
 another kind donor.

 clay

 On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Rick Knoble wrote:

  I bought a Technics SLB2 new back in the seventies. Still works well.
 Had to change the belt once. The SLD2 is the direct drive one. There are
 better quality turntables available IE. Bang And Oluffson(sp), old Pioneer
 stuff (70's), Marantz (sp).
 
  Rick
  Sent from my iPhone.
 
  On Feb 25, 2012, at 3:38 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Anyway, I was wonder if anyone had any suggestions for a good quality
 used
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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-21 Thread E M
I think there could be several reasons for this; but just my guess.

I find most top of the range models don't hold their value as well as the
more affordable models.  Also, these cars are bought new, by well off
people.  Most of those people remain well off, so when a new model comes
out, they buy it.  Once these cars are sold, it's often to people who want
one, but are unwilling to pay the big premium to drive it out of the
showroom (can't blame them).  They get several years of pretty trouble free
driving out of a newish car, but are wise enough to part with them before
they become a money pit, and then they go out and replace it with something
similar again, but newer.

As these cars change hands, the running costs go up, naturally, as the car
is getting older.  The cars are getting cheaper, and so these cars are now
finding their way into hands for even less money, but with greater running
costs.  (they start looking like a deal too good to pass up if you're a car
guy)  Throw in a bit of a squeeze with the economy, ever rising fuel
prices, and a few replacement parts that cost WHAT that you have to
justify to the wife, and once again, these cars are on the market, but now
for cheap, with some miles, and deferred maintenance, with the promise to
cost as much as the car is worth, to fix those little switches that don't
work, and other little things that should have been changed as part of
regular maintenance, but weren't.

I find this is kind of the route big BMWs take too.  These cars were
designed to be owned by rich guys, and maintained with an open chequebook.

I'm glad this happens in ways, as it allows car guys like us to buy a V12
if we want.  We just have to be smart when making a choice, and leave a
good chunk of cash off to the side to keep it serviced as it deserves to
be.  I think they are really great cars!  :-)

Ed
300E
On 21 February 2012 08:06, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Let me begin by stating unequivocally that I have absolutely no intention
 of purchasing any of these cars.

 My observations were such that I was surprised by the number of them on
 the local market, and the prices they are selling at relative to their
 original cost.

 I went back and checked, and while by no means is this statistically
 accurate, a casual look shows roughly 10% of the MBs in the local market
 right now are V12 models of some sort.

 Considering that these were not a large part of the product line at any
 given time, I find it surprising that there are so many on the market.

 Definitely not a good indicator.

 Dan

 On Feb 21, 2012, at 2:25 AM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  Of course, this same argument could be use before the wife, to justify
 the
  acquisition of a third 600. ;-) hee hee.
 
  To be honest, while a 600 will never be a cheap car to run, I wouldn't be
  put off one, anymore than other car of similar complexity.  Also, I think
  it's true that when a car fails, you'll let all your friends, and pretty
  much anyone who will listen know about it.  But when a car functions as
 we
  all expect them to, no mention is ever made of it.  Human nature.
 
  All cars have their flaws and weaknesses.  A $200,000 car is no
 different,
  but when parts fail, expect to pay for those model specific parts, a
 price
  that is in line with a $200,000 car, not its depreciated price, whatever
  that may be.  You can pick up old 6.9s for a few thousand dollars, but no
  one expects to pay 240D prices for 6.9 engine parts.
 
  A 600 is a top of the line car, from a car company who's entry level
 models
  are quite expensive.  I wouldn't worry about a V12 going bang every time
  you drive it, but if that's something anyone would worry about, then it's
  probably not the right car for them.  If for no other reason than it
 would
  take away from the pleasure of owning it.  And as no one needs a V12,
  pleasure and pride of ownership are a big part of the experience.
 
  A bit of advise I always give to friends when thinking about buying an
  expensive car.  Don't drive what you think you can afford to drive.
  Drive
  what you can afford to crash and blow up.  ;-)
 
  That's my take on big expensive cars anyway.  :-)
 
  Ed
  300E
  300E
 
  On 20 February 2012 23:27, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:
 
  On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:52:38 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you
 have
  two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need,
  it will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period
  between your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second
  spare one to come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a
  sudden, all those cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare,
  will be no where to be seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and
  you'll have to remortgage the house to fix it, or figure out how to
  stick an old diesel engine in it. hee hee

Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-21 Thread E M
The problem with changing parts only after they fail, is that they never
fail in your driveway.  It's always far from home, at the worst possible
time.  You can then add the cost of a tow to the repair bill too, not to
mention the stress of being stranded.

Any part can fail without warning, but preventative maintenance goes a long
way in eliminating a lot of failures that put cars on the side of the
road.

And, if you do snap a piece of plastic or rubber while working on your
friends car (easy to do), even if she's a good friend, she'll probably
blame you, before she'll blame the 27 year old bit of dried out old rubber
or plastic. hee hee.  If one piece broke, then others of similar material
and age aren't far behind.

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2012 11:26, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 You and I are of one mind on this, Marshall and my Indy are of the other
 where you replace only the parts which have failed when they fail.

 I figure the hoses are all about the same age...

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:37:38 -0500
 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question
 Message-ID:
canth8rxsdetwozxeqnq80d_g+3ippufkawpgy_mhz0j91q+...@mail.gmail.com
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

 I'd find out exactly what has the hole in it, and get a quote from Rusty
 for a new part/s.  Doesn't sound like changing an air hose would be a big
 deal.  If you have to reset the mixture and stuff, that's something others
 on the list would have to offer pointers on.

 If it's a car she loves, and sounds like it is, she should maybe think
 about changing several of the other hoses if they are original.  Sometimes
 it's best just to change all those things at once.  I did a lot of the
 rubber hoses at once on the 300E, and Rusty charged me about the same for 6
 hoses, or less, than the dealer wanted for one.  Cheap insurance, and being
 an '85, there are probably lots of rubber and plastic bits that are now
 quite fragile.  And, if you have to remove old brittle parts to get to the
 part you need, you run the risk of damaging them.  Might just as well
 reassemble with new fresh parts that you, and she can trust.

 All it takes is a small leak in an old dry coolant hose to leave you
 stranded.  Ask me how I know.  hee hee.

 Ed
 300E

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-21 Thread E M
So true!  Unchecked rad hoses (and most other things) tend to let go, far
from home, on a dark unlit, seldom traveled road late at night.  Of course
it's raining, and you forgot your umbrella, as you realize your cell phone
battery is flat too.  When the tow truck driver eventually shows up, he
does a quick evaluation of your predicament, and the grin on his face lets
you know, this one's going to cost you!!  hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2012 13:10, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Another law of nature:  Stuff always happens at the most inopportune
 time.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com

 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2012 1:00 PM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question


  The problem with changing parts only after they fail, is that they never
 fail in your driveway.  It's always far from home, at the worst possible
 time.  You can then add the cost of a tow to the repair bill too, not to
 mention the stress of being stranded.

 Any part can fail without warning, but preventative maintenance goes a
 long
 way in eliminating a lot of failures that put cars on the side of the
 road.

 And, if you do snap a piece of plastic or rubber while working on your
 friends car (easy to do), even if she's a good friend, she'll probably
 blame you, before she'll blame the 27 year old bit of dried out old rubber
 or plastic. hee hee.  If one piece broke, then others of similar material
 and age aren't far behind.

 Ed
 300E

 On 21 February 2012 11:26, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

  You and I are of one mind on this, Marshall and my Indy are of the other
 where you replace only the parts which have failed when they fail.

 I figure the hoses are all about the same age...

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 02:37:38 -0500
 From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question
 Message-ID:
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 mail.gmail.comcanth8rxsdetwozxeqnq80d_g%2b3ippufkawpgy_mhz0j91q%2b...@mail.gmail.com
 
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

 I'd find out exactly what has the hole in it, and get a quote from Rusty
 for a new part/s.  Doesn't sound like changing an air hose would be a big
 deal.  If you have to reset the mixture and stuff, that's something
 others
 on the list would have to offer pointers on.

 If it's a car she loves, and sounds like it is, she should maybe think
 about changing several of the other hoses if they are original. Sometimes
 it's best just to change all those things at once.  I did a lot of the
 rubber hoses at once on the 300E, and Rusty charged me about the same
 for 6
 hoses, or less, than the dealer wanted for one.  Cheap insurance, and
 being
 an '85, there are probably lots of rubber and plastic bits that are now
 quite fragile.  And, if you have to remove old brittle parts to get to
 the
 part you need, you run the risk of damaging them.  Might just as well
 reassemble with new fresh parts that you, and she can trust.

 All it takes is a small leak in an old dry coolant hose to leave you
 stranded.  Ask me how I know.  hee hee.

 Ed
 300E

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Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-21 Thread E M
Seems a logical course of action to me.  I do the same with bulbs.  If one
goes, I change both sides.  If your hands are already dirty, might as well
do the job right.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2012 13:55, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Which is why when one glowplug fails I replace them all...

 Marshall hated that.

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 13:10:37 -0500
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question
 Message-ID: CCF9ADDE0EF3474E8551567BBCC054E6@wiltonPC
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 Another law of nature:  Stuff always happens at the most inopportune
 time.

 Wilton

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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread E M
The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you have
two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need, it
will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period between
your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second spare one to
come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a sudden, all those
cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare, will be no where to be
seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and you'll have to remortgage the
house to fix it, or figure out how to stick an old diesel engine in it. hee
hee.

Ed
300E...I keep telling myself I have half a V12.  ;-)

On 20 February 2012 22:41, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 The concept of having a spare  600 is great but the actuality of
 diagnosing problems and r/r a sophisticated electronic part is way
 beyond  my capability.

 On Mon, Feb 20, 2012 at 10:29 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
  It's late, my brain hurts, and I knocked this off in a hurry as I had to
 got to an HOA board meeting I really didn't want to go to...
 
  Arrgh.
 
  Dan
 
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 9:35 PM, Craig wrote:
 
  On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  As I perused the Craigslist listings for MBs yesterday, I was amazed at
  the huge number of 600 series cars (with V12s) on the market, and as
  one might expect, cheap relatively speaking.
 
  Your subject says, Dearth, which means few, but your text says, huge
  number.
 
  In any event, the only thing I have heard about them is to stay away.
 
 
  Craig
 
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Re: [MBZ] Dearth of 600s

2012-02-20 Thread E M
Of course, this same argument could be use before the wife, to justify the
acquisition of a third 600. ;-) hee hee.

To be honest, while a 600 will never be a cheap car to run, I wouldn't be
put off one, anymore than other car of similar complexity.  Also, I think
it's true that when a car fails, you'll let all your friends, and pretty
much anyone who will listen know about it.  But when a car functions as we
all expect them to, no mention is ever made of it.  Human nature.

All cars have their flaws and weaknesses.  A $200,000 car is no different,
but when parts fail, expect to pay for those model specific parts, a price
that is in line with a $200,000 car, not its depreciated price, whatever
that may be.  You can pick up old 6.9s for a few thousand dollars, but no
one expects to pay 240D prices for 6.9 engine parts.

A 600 is a top of the line car, from a car company who's entry level models
are quite expensive.  I wouldn't worry about a V12 going bang every time
you drive it, but if that's something anyone would worry about, then it's
probably not the right car for them.  If for no other reason than it would
take away from the pleasure of owning it.  And as no one needs a V12,
pleasure and pride of ownership are a big part of the experience.

A bit of advise I always give to friends when thinking about buying an
expensive car.  Don't drive what you think you can afford to drive.  Drive
what you can afford to crash and blow up.  ;-)

That's my take on big expensive cars anyway.  :-)

Ed
300E
300E

On 20 February 2012 23:27, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Mon, 20 Feb 2012 22:52:38 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  The old rule probably applies, as it does with most things.  If you have
  two of them, and therefore a supply of all the spares you'll ever need,
  it will probably never fail you.  The danger zone, is the time period
  between your purchase of the first 600, and waiting for the second
  spare one to come along. The first one will come easy, and all of a
  sudden, all those cheap 600 one the market you plan to buy as a spare,
  will be no where to be seen.  THAT's when your car will go boom, and
  you'll have to remortgage the house to fix it, or figure out how to
  stick an old diesel engine in it. hee hee.

 Of course, if there's a design flaw and certain expensive parts fail
 regularly, having only a second 600 as a parts supply would be
 insufficient, serving only to delay the time when you really need to pay
 the piper.


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Re: [MBZ] 1985 190E 2.3 question

2012-02-20 Thread E M
I'd find out exactly what has the hole in it, and get a quote from Rusty
for a new part/s.  Doesn't sound like changing an air hose would be a big
deal.  If you have to reset the mixture and stuff, that's something others
on the list would have to offer pointers on.

If it's a car she loves, and sounds like it is, she should maybe think
about changing several of the other hoses if they are original.  Sometimes
it's best just to change all those things at once.  I did a lot of the
rubber hoses at once on the 300E, and Rusty charged me about the same for 6
hoses, or less, than the dealer wanted for one.  Cheap insurance, and being
an '85, there are probably lots of rubber and plastic bits that are now
quite fragile.  And, if you have to remove old brittle parts to get to the
part you need, you run the risk of damaging them.  Might just as well
reassemble with new fresh parts that you, and she can trust.

All it takes is a small leak in an old dry coolant hose to leave you
stranded.  Ask me how I know.  hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 21 February 2012 01:55, Kevin Kraly kr...@comcast.net wrote:

 I have a friend who’s having an issue with her dearly beloved 1985 190E
 2.3.  There’s a hole in the air intake hose which is throwing off the
 mixture.  Her mechanic quoted hundreds of dollars to fix it, so she
 approached me today asking if I would fix it for less.  I wanted to bounce
 this off you guys for any gotchas before jumping in.  I haven’t looked it
 to see what has to be removed to get to the offending hose.  It sounds like
 a challenge for me, and an opportunity to make a few bucks to put into my
 own project 240D.  Anyone BTDT?

 TIA,



 Kevin in Hillsboro, Oregon
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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-18 Thread E M
I think GMs are ok cars, but I don't think GM could do such a car right.
If you look close at a car that is all, or mostly carbon in clear, getting
all the mat to line up properly is something GM couldn't do, even in small
numbers.  Well, they could, but I don't think anyone is going to pay 1.5
million for a Corvette.  The car isn't marketed to people who are
interested in that level of detail.  (that's not a snooty poke at Corvette
owners by the way.  GM got it right with the ZR1.  The performance of a
$400,000 for $100,000)

The DMC12 was a cool looking car, and with panels made of stainless, was
suppose to be corrosion free and easy to maintain.  Truth is, it was a pain
to keep looking nice. (they sold a special kit of cleaners for it I
believe).  Something like 30+% of owners got tired of messing with it and
the effort required, and just painted them.  A friend almost bought one at
auction a couple of years ago.  I think they're still pretty cool looking.
:-)  What other car for the money can you get where the doors open like
that, besides a Brickland.  Or a slammed Civic with Lambo doors. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 18 February 2012 06:14, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 If GM did it right, a carbon fibre Vette with a proper polish and uv
 protectant clearcoat would likely sell quite well. Witness the naked
 stainless steel on the DMC-12.


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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-18 Thread E M
If they were to clear coat, or gel coat really, a race car, it would be
heavier than painting it.  When racing, it's all about weight. ;-)  Most
purpose built race cars (F1) etc, are built underweight, often quite a bit
underweight, so that they can add back ballast where they want it to fine
tune the handling, and bring it up to the min required weight.

Ed
300E

On 18 February 2012 06:14, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Walt Zarnoch wrote:

 If GM did it right, a carbon fibre Vette with a proper polish and uv
 protectant clearcoat would likely sell quite well. Witness the naked
 stainless steel on the DMC-12.


 I like my Look KG86 bicycle, but in that case it's totally functional. The
 most weight efficient way to make it was to make the carbon tubing with UV
 resistant epoxy and save the weight of paint. It also meant any flaw in the
 carbon layup would be visible, so they better get it right.

 But when you use visible carbon in a non-structural application, like
 replacing the wood interior accents, you're just saying 'this isn't a race
 car, but I wish it was'.

 Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-17 Thread E M
Don't quote me on this Wilton, but a guy had a new one years ago when I was
in the local Benz club.  As I remember, it had different shocks and
springs, rode a bit lower, more aggressive bolstering on the seats, and I
think a different head (24 valve ?).  Rims were different too.  I didn't
look that closely at it, as there were usually other things distracting
me when we all got together, like that silver Gullwing! ;-)  I remember it
being quite expensive at the time$73,000 or something in that range.

Ed
300E

On 17 February 2012 16:33, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 So what makes it sport?
 BTW, ads are much easier and quicker to understand and less annoying if
 they include a bit of appropriate punctuation.  :)

 Wilton

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  On Feb 16, 2012 9:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:


 http://nwct.craigslist.org/**cto/2806261245.htmlhttp://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/2806261245.html


 Aargh, wrong coast!

 Not my favorite color, but I do love 124 coupes and the Sportline goodies
 would make up for it.

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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-17 Thread E M
Nice thing about the sportline cars back then, they still followed in that
same spirit of the earlier 6.3, in that they were very subtle, and you kind
of had to know what you were looking for to pick one out.  Unlike a lot of
the current AMG models, that go like stick, but have a good amount of flash
bolted on as well, just to make sure everyone knows you paid extra for
(more likely leased) the fast model.  Mercedes can no longer call any of
its hot rod models, Q cars.  Sad in ways, but tacky and vulgar are now
fashionable.

Ed
300E

On 17 February 2012 18:34, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 $73k?!!  Cough, cough, gag, pant, cough, cough!!  'Think I'd want
 something a little sporty for $73k worth of sport.  'Course, I guess I've
 never been much of a sport, anyway, but that's OK.  I'll just keep driving
 my plain old 126 and 124 with closed sunroofs - sunroofs that I was forced
 to take and pay for but never use.  Forced to take, you may ask - 'had to
 take 'em to get the cars, of course.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 4:47 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?


  Don't quote me on this Wilton, but a guy had a new one years ago when I
 was
 in the local Benz club.  As I remember, it had different shocks and
 springs, rode a bit lower, more aggressive bolstering on the seats, and I
 think a different head (24 valve ?).  Rims were different too.  I didn't
 look that closely at it, as there were usually other things distracting
 me when we all got together, like that silver Gullwing! ;-)  I remember it
 being quite expensive at the time$73,000 or something in that range.

 Ed
 300E

 On 17 February 2012 16:33, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  So what makes it sport?
 BTW, ads are much easier and quicker to understand and less annoying if
 they include a bit of appropriate punctuation.  :)

 Wilton

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 Sent: Friday, February 17, 2012 3:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?


  On Feb 16, 2012 9:26 PM, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:



 http://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/2806261245.htmlhttp://nwct.craigslist.org/**cto/2806261245.html
 http://**nwct.craigslist.org/cto/**2806261245.htmlhttp://nwct.craigslist.org/cto/2806261245.html
 


  Aargh, wrong coast!

 Not my favorite color, but I do love 124 coupes and the Sportline
 goodies
 would make up for it.

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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-17 Thread E M
Yeah, both.

Ed
300E

On 17 February 2012 21:35, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sad in ways, but tacky and vulgar are now
 fashionable.

 Ed
 300E


 you mean vulgar like this?  
 http://www.mbusa.com/amg/**build/http://www.mbusa.com/amg/build/

 or tacky like this? http://www.benzworld.org/**
 forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/**1504914-w126-donk-3.htmlhttp://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1504914-w126-donk-3.html

 Or vulgar and tacky like these?
 Something in this is alleged to be a MB SL: http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/
 **2011/08/mercedes-benz-sl65-on-**22.htmlhttp://miamiearl.blogspot.com/2011/08/mercedes-benz-sl65-on-22.html

  http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/

 Or these:  http://egotvonline.com/2011/**07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-**
 athlete-cars/http://egotvonline.com/2011/07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-athlete-cars/

 or more along the lines of this: http://www.stuartxchange.org/**
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Re: [MBZ] who wants a W124 Sportline?

2012-02-17 Thread E M
Me too, just delete the badges, and that silly carbon fibre that is all the
rage for interior trim. What is it with people thinking clear coated carbon
mate is a cool option for interior trim.  If it's such a good look, maybe
they should just stop painting Corvettes and start selling them in plain
fibreglass with clear coat.

I know taste is very much subjective, and no doubt mine has been open to
question at times too.  I love anything with lots of cylinders and power, I
just prefer it packaged in something a bit more elegant and understated.
Then again, I've never been a hey, look at me kinda guy.  :-)

Ed
300E

On 17 February 2012 23:03, Rich Thomas richthomas79td...@constructivity.net
 wrote:

 I want any of the vulgar ones, particularly those ending in 65

 --R


 On 2/17/12 9:35 PM, Dieselhead wrote:

 Sad in ways, but tacky and vulgar are now
 fashionable.

 Ed
 300E


 you mean vulgar like this?  
 http://www.mbusa.com/amg/**build/http://www.mbusa.com/amg/build/

 or tacky like this? http://www.benzworld.org/**
 forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/**1504914-w126-donk-3.htmlhttp://www.benzworld.org/forums/w126-s-se-sec-sel-sd/1504914-w126-donk-3.html

 Or vulgar and tacky like these?
 Something in this is alleged to be a MB SL:
 http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/**2011/08/mercedes-benz-sl65-on-**22.htmlhttp://miamiearl.blogspot.com/2011/08/mercedes-benz-sl65-on-22.html

  http://miamiearl.blogspot.com/

 Or these:  http://egotvonline.com/2011/**07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-**
 athlete-cars/http://egotvonline.com/2011/07/26/the-20-coolest-pro-athlete-cars/

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Re: [MBZ] Guy built a Lamborghini in his basement

2012-02-13 Thread E M
Probably far better quality than any Countach that ever rolled off the line
too. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 13 February 2012 01:26, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 If you can't change your own oil without looking at the manual, don't try
 this at home.


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Re: [MBZ] OT; ubuntu - was Office software

2012-02-05 Thread E M
Thanks for all the info Ed!  There's a lot there, most of it I understand,
a bit I don't.  But it gives me a much better understanding of what going
the Ubuntu route involves.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E

On 5 February 2012 15:17, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  I just had a look at the ubuntu site, along with some of the demo pics of
  their OS.  It seems from the demo pics, that the LibreOffice icons are
  displayed.  Not sure if that means ubuntu is bundled with LO ?
 

 Linux as OS includes absolutely nothing bundled with it. Linux is the
 kernel, the very core of the system. However, Linux as a marketing product
 placement includes something truly crazy, like 250,000+ bundled
 applications. This is because the modern Linux distributions all have
 access to back line applications systems, not unlike the App Stores popping
 up. Ubuntu, Red Hat, SUSE, they all have direct and immediate access to
 almost every other open source application available through their package
 retrieval system. So if LibreOffice isn't actually in the distribution DVD,
 it's less that three clicks of the mouse away.


  I really like the idea of a free open source OS, along with software that
  works on the same principles.  Not that I mind paying for software at
 all,
  but all this phone home stuff, constant updates, and linking my
 personal
  info to various other sites MS, Google, and others might offer, is
 getting
  to be a bit much I think.
 

 Well, the problem is, if the only reason you are changing your OS is to get
 away from phoning home then you are going to be disappointed. Even the
 modern Linux systems are talking to home servers to offer you updates and
 packages. They aren't quite as bad as Microsoft, but then again, when you
 think about it what little Windows is phoning home about amounts to so much
 information daily that there isn't really a good way to localize and point
 to an individual specifically. Basically the logistics involved with trying
 to pin point a single user is astronomical, the data is being used as an
 indication of large wide reaching problems.

 Not saying you *shouldn't* worry about phone homes, but that many of them
 can be ignored.


  I've love to scrap my Vista OS, and use something like ubuntu, along with
  my firefox,  but being such a non techie guy, I have no idea how to do
 such
  things to a PC.
 

 Easier than falling off a log. Drop the disk in the drive, click, click,
 click, use. The Big Three, Ubuntu, Red Hat and SUSE have all spent a very
 large amount of time, money and other resources to make their installation
 procedures as easy as a reinstall of a Windows product. In fact you don't
 even have to install them as the only OS which others have already pointed
 out.

 However, if you truly want to rid Windows from your home completely, make
 friends with a tech savvy person in your area. Don't think you are in
 Indiana, but I could have you up and running in pretty much no time. The
 real problem isn't the OS install, it's the data migration. How much do you
 have that is in a Microsoft Office format? (DOCX, XLSX, etc.) While
 LibreOffice can open most of the Microsoft file formats, they aren't always
 100% accurate. So saving them off in a more standard format, (RTF, CVS) for
 the transfer might be a good idea. Do you have any data that is in a true
 Microsoft only format? Not necessarily Microsoft the company, but Windows
 the OS? Do you use any software that *only* runs in Windows, and therefore
 you will not be able to open that data on anything but that application on
 a Windows system? How *much* data do you have? Several terabytes? Couple
 hundred megabytes?

 You might want to look into a NAS like Brian has been asking about for his
 Macbook. A small system with simple RAID to help you keep a backup strategy
 is *always* a good idea. When a drive fails and you lose data, how bad is
 it for you? For me, I'd lose a decade of irreplaceable photos. There is no
 hard copy of them. Keep this in mind as well.


  As a side note, what are everyone's thoughts on what's going on with the
  upcoming changes to Google?
 

 Which ones? If you mean their privacy policy, they actually do mean what
 they say, it's gotten easier. They had something like 15 different legal
 documents for privacy across their companies, each with their own little
 gotchas. They now have 2, so all Google companies except Postini now use
 the same Legal Privacy document. Do you mean how they have end of life
 several different Google services? Wave, App Builder, etc? Or are you
 referring to other changes?


  Ed
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Re: [MBZ] Fwd: Re: M103 Lifter tick

2012-02-04 Thread E M
I've had good luck with that too.  Can't even remember my reasons for
switching to it, but I seem to recall it was due to diesel having, or
keeping, the higher zinc content.

Ed
300E

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 Weel, you can use M1, however..I have had the tick on
 various M102/3 engines, tried M1..tick tick tick, stick Diesel engine
 oil in the M103 and after a while we have no tick tick tick.
 Diesel engine oil = more detergent.

 Hendrik
 who has no scientific proof of the effects of a high detergent oil

 Dan Penoff wrote:

 I am going to encourage him to change to M1.

 Dan



 I would encourage the use of the M1 15W-50 (extended performance, Truck,
 or whatever they may call it now) if it can be found in your neck of the
 woods.  I have only found some maybe once in the last 3 years.  Otherwise,
 the Delvac equivalent, or Delvac 1300 dino oil. in order of preference.

 I have no evidence other than seat of the pants, but I have learned to
 trust that.

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes content

2012-02-04 Thread E M
You read those British online rags too, eh?.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 4 February 2012 10:51, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 I prefer the young lady but I'm sure most of you will ignore her and drool
 over the car.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/**tvshowbiz/article-2096164/**
 Leticia-Peres-flashes-bra-**atop-convertible-Mercedes-**
 filming-advert.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2096164/Leticia-Peres-flashes-bra-atop-convertible-Mercedes-filming-advert.html

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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes content

2012-02-04 Thread E M
Hard to argue with. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 4 February 2012 11:23, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 Yes they have lots of good car content.

 --R

 On 2/4/12 11:17 AM, E M wrote:

 You read those British online rags too, eh?.  ;-)

 Ed
 300E

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  I prefer the young lady but I'm sure most of you will ignore her and
 drool
 over the car.

 http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2096164/**http://www.dailymail.co.uk/**tvshowbiz/article-2096164/**
 Leticia-Peres-flashes-bra-atop-convertible-Mercedes-**
 filming-advert.htmlhttp://**www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/**
 article-2096164/Leticia-Peres-**flashes-bra-atop-convertible-**
 Mercedes-filming-advert.htmlhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2096164/Leticia-Peres-flashes-bra-atop-convertible-Mercedes-filming-advert.html
 

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Re: [MBZ] Licenseing - was: OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-02-01 Thread E M
Jobs himself once said in an interview, that Apple was primarily a software
company, that package their products in nice looking machines, or works to
that effect.

Ed
300E

On 1 February 2012 23:04, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  clay monroe wrote:

  At least with apple, you have an install
  disk, you have no trouble tossing the os onto any machine
  capable of running it.  No authentication, no hassle, it just
  works.

 Apple is a hardware company, Microsoft is a software company.

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[MBZ] OT; ubuntu - was Office software

2012-02-01 Thread E M
I just had a look at the ubuntu site, along with some of the demo pics of
their OS.  It seems from the demo pics, that the LibreOffice icons are
displayed.  Not sure if that means ubuntu is bundled with LO ?

I really like the idea of a free open source OS, along with software that
works on the same principles.  Not that I mind paying for software at all,
but all this phone home stuff, constant updates, and linking my personal
info to various other sites MS, Google, and others might offer, is getting
to be a bit much I think.

I've love to scrap my Vista OS, and use something like ubuntu, along with
my firefox,  but being such a non techie guy, I have no idea how to do such
things to a PC.

As a side note, what are everyone's thoughts on what's going on with the
upcoming changes to Google?

Ed
300E

On 1 February 2012 23:13, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Dieselhead wrote:

  I went to the univ junk sale today.  They no longer install XP
  on the boxes they sell as working with OS.  They are
  installing ubuntu (no license or phone home crap from M$$) and
  libreoffice.  The guy I talk to there most often said that
  libreoffice is better than open office.
 
  I never heard of it until a couple weeks ago.

 A bunch of the folks who were developing OpenOffice escaped
 because it was not being developed.  Then Oracle bought it and
 more left.  LibreOffice is the result.  It's a fork of
 OpenOffice with more of the restrictive license components
 replaced.  It took a bit for it to catch up with OpenOffice, but
 it's not hard to win against a stationary opponent.  Seems
 LibreOffice has caught up and should be moving ahead now.  After
 all, it's actually being developed!

 And this is part of the point of open/free software.  OpenOffice
 was a good product - but it was being abandoned.  Enough clever
 folks liked it enough to pick up the torch and keep running.
 And meanwhile, all my data is in a format that isn't a locked
 secret. _I_ can get to _my_ data.  Why, I can even use a bash
 script to create a .ods spreadsheet!

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Re: [MBZ] Apple$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$'s

2012-01-31 Thread E M
I believe that is/was part of it.  With all the recent problems with HD
suppliers (mostly being in one place), I think many manufactures are
questioning the wisdom of having most suppliers so close together, in the
event of some natural disaster.  With HD shortages, and the consequent
price increases, it would seem to underscore the need to re-examine how
computer assemblers currently deal with their logistics.

Ed
300E- who knows very little about computers, but Mommy all told me not to
put all my eggs in one basket.

On 31 January 2012 07:26, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au writes:

  I read that they are expected to have 100 billion in cash by the end
  of the year, unless they buy a State or two, or pay the wage slaves a
  bit more, although apparently these wage slaves would not know what to
  do with the extra money, so there is no need to pay them any more than
  necessary. Heaven forbid, they would probably waste it on booze,
  cigarettes and gambling.

 In the piece the New York Times published a couple of weeks ago, the
 reporter discovered that the main reason Apple manufacture their
 products in China is not the wages paid to the workers.  The actual
 assembly labor cost is not the deciding factor.  It is also that the
 entire supply chain is all in one place, very efficient, and very
 responsive.

 Allan
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
I like the MacAir, but probably wouldn't consider it until their new HD
prices come down a bit, or more importantly, they give you a bit more
storage for the money.  For my personal use, the iMac concept really speaks
to me.  All in one machine, with no or very few wires.  As large as the
screen is, you can never have too much for a desktop, as far as I'm
concerned.  :-)  95% of what I do is at my desk.  I can't imagine using a
laptop as my main computer, but I know many do.  iPad, maybe, but for me,
it would have to evolve quite a bit beyond what it currently is.

Benz content.  Went and looked at the new CLS yesterday.  Whacked my head
on the A pillar getting into it.  Nice car, but a bit claustrophobic
feeling.  From everything I've read, the new S Class will get a lot of the
CLS' styling DNA.

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 11:56, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

 Also, when I think about it, the next major Mac Pro change may be rackable
 only. Given the rise of tablet computing, and the need for backend
 infrastructure to drive cloud apps for said tablets. Apple is leading the
 charge in the direction of portable computing, and with good reason, they
 have the momentum right now to keep that market strongly tied up.

 The Mac, as we currently know it, is going to slowly phase out as the
 Tablet *becomes* the PC. Personally, though I'm a heavy Apple user, I want
 an HP Slate with Windows 7 .  . Macbook Air?  Hah!

 EdB

 Well, ok, I'd take a Macbook Air too  but my writing software is better
 supported on the Mac side.

 On Tue, Jan 31, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Ed Booher edboo...@gmail.com wrote:

  Actually, a couple of points. The G5 was the Professional Mac during a
  period when Apple was very heavily pushing the Xserve. Of course you
 can't
  turn it sideways and mount it in a standard rack. You want a rackable
 Mac,
  you buy the Xserve. It was designed overlarge on purpose. The Mac Pro is
  essentially the same case as the G5, so even though the Xserve has now
  died, you still can't rack a Mac Pro sideways. You can, however, rack
  either a G5 or Pro vertically.

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
Think I have a couple of those too, along with pile of other decommissioned
old Macs.  :-)

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 14:33, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote:

 Does a MacII in the basement covered in dust count?

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 I am the only one on this list who doesn't own a Mac or an Apple?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
Prices were crazy.  My first SE sold here for $5500.  $7500 if you sprung
for the SE30!  Still have it, and it works as well as day one.  All my old
Macs work fine, they just became outdated.  Bought a wide carriage coloured
ribbon printer, 3 months old at the time, for $1000.  Got a real deal on
it, new it was $3000. lol.  I remember the Mac llfx, with a couple of
options, was a $10,000 machine.  I think the Apple monitor I have with my
old Mac ll machines used Sony Trinatron tubes.  Great picture quality. If
you looked really close, I think the 14 inch and under had a very fine line
across the screen.  If it was larger than 14, it had two horizontal lines.
Ah, the good old days.

Everything now seems like a bargain, even Apples!  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 15:12, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That machine with monitor, printer and 40 megabyte hard drive cost $6000
 new back in '88. Unbelievable.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:08 PM, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
 wrote:

 I have a Mac II circa 1988. It still works  fine.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, Fred Moir fred.s...@verizon.net wrote:

 Does a MacII in the basement covered in dust count?

 Fred Moir
 Lynn MA
 Diesel preferred


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 I am the only one on this list who doesn't own a Mac or an Apple?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
There are probably more 512s and Se with fish living in them, than HDs
today!

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 15:35, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I don't own one, I do have a Mac 512K that I gutted to turn into an
 aquarium but never got around to...

 I work with them a lot and having worked in phone support for several
 years I got to see the ugly side.

 -Curt

 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:05:17 -0600
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
I look at computers, much the way I look at sports cars.  When you outgrown
them, move up, don't both trying to make them something the factory didn't
intend them to be.

In 25+ years of using Apples, had the spring behind a power supply button
go once.  Never a single problem with HDs, ram, monitors, crashing, locking
up, or losing files.  Not a one.  They were all used a lot too, and while I
no longer use them, I still have more than a half dozen of them in the
basement, all working just fine.

My current comp is a HP running Vista.  I've had several problems with it,
both with hardware, and software.  Only other PC I've used, was an old, um,
can't even remember now, but a brand name running Win97.  That comp had a
lot of miles on it, but never gave me any problems.

In the next year or so, I'll probably get a new comp.  I'm leaning towards
a 27 inch iMac, but I'm sure something better will be available in a year
or so.

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 16:14, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 Rick,
 I used to work with Apple years back and was NOT a fan. They had all sorts
 of hard drive problems, compatibility, etc., etc. So, I've basically been a
 Windows user since it was released (CPM and UCSD Pascal before that) and I
 have never had the sorts of problems I see described on these lists. I have
 always believed that you can screw yourself by going beyond the specs of
 anything whether that be a computer, car, or anything else. I currently
 have 5 desktops and 3 laptops running everything from Windows 2000 to
 Windows 7 with no problems, both wired and wireless.
 So, you aren't alone. It just seems that Windows users don't have all of
 the problems and situations that Apple/Mac users do. Now that I've
 consoled Rick, you Mac guys can bring out your..
 Best Wishes,

 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
I walked into a store, many years ago, and said to the saleswoman, I think
I need a computer.  She said, do you want an Apple, or a PC?  I said,
what's the difference.  The Apple has little pictures you click on with
this mouse thingy, to make it do what you want, the PC requires you to type
in little DOS commands.  Umm, I'll take the one that has the clicky
pictures.  I walked out with an Apple SE.  Not knowing anything about
computer ( I mean NOTHING, even less than I know today), I can home, set it
up, and started using it; all without ever referring to a manual.  :-)

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 16:14, roger...@comcast.net wrote:

 Rick,
 I used to work with Apple years back and was NOT a fan. They had all sorts
 of hard drive problems, compatibility, etc., etc. So, I've basically been a
 Windows user since it was released (CPM and UCSD Pascal before that) and I
 have never had the sorts of problems I see described on these lists. I have
 always believed that you can screw yourself by going beyond the specs of
 anything whether that be a computer, car, or anything else. I currently
 have 5 desktops and 3 laptops running everything from Windows 2000 to
 Windows 7 with no problems, both wired and wireless.
 So, you aren't alone. It just seems that Windows users don't have all of
 the problems and situations that Apple/Mac users do. Now that I've
 consoled Rick, you Mac guys can bring out your..
 Best Wishes,

 Roger Hale
 Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
 Monroe, Ga.
 770-267-0850
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 www.rubylane.com/shops/sna (antique)

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer many years ago

2012-01-31 Thread E M
Way back when I got my first Apple, PCs were for computer geeks who really
knew what they were doing, and could speak computer gibberish.  Apples were
for guys like me who were just moving up from their Underwoods.  Hee hee

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 17:12, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 I had a similar experience back in 95 when I bought our first compluter.
 Salesbloke showed us the Mac which had this old geezer sitting in a
 library of sorts, that walked to the shelf and got you stuff, can't
 remember which OS that was, then showed us the Win95 OS which seemed to me
 to be more professional and the salesguy indicated that he was no fan of
 the Mac OS and Billys machine was the go.
 So we went with 95 and I did have to consult help now and again but got
 the hang of it pretty much.
 BTW that was a HP machine and was built like a tank, never had a problem
 with it but got too slow and needed to be upgraded.
 Bought a puter from a puter store that was put together by them and it was
 junk, bles up duriong the warranty and then carked it a couple of years
 later.
 Bought another HP which lasted 4-5 years until the mobo went. Not worth
 fixing so I bought a S/H HP and it's been good for a couple of years now.

 Hendrik
 who has lots of computers

 E M wrote:

 I walked into a store, many years ago, and said to the saleswoman, I think
 I need a computer.  She said, do you want an Apple, or a PC?  I said,
 what's the difference.  The Apple has little pictures you click on with
 this mouse thingy, to make it do what you want, the PC requires you to
 type
 in little DOS commands.  Umm, I'll take the one that has the clicky
 pictures.  I walked out with an Apple SE.  Not knowing anything about
 computer ( I mean NOTHING, even less than I know today), I can home, set
 it
 up, and started using it; all without ever referring to a manual.  :-)

 Ed
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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor

2012-01-31 Thread E M
An 27 iMac would be pretty tight living, even for a fish, unless he had no
intentions of ever turning around in his living room. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 16:37, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 And iMacs!

 Dan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 31, 2012, at 3:43 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  There are probably more 512s and Se with fish living in them, than HDs
  today!
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 31 January 2012 15:35, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I don't own one, I do have a Mac 512K that I gutted to turn into an
  aquarium but never got around to...
 
  I work with them a lot and having worked in phone support for several
  years I got to see the ugly side.
 
  -Curt
 
  Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 13:05:17 -0600
  From: Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor
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  I am the only one on this list who doesn't own a Mac or an Apple?
 
  Rick
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 for a
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Re: [MBZ] APPLE$$$

2012-01-31 Thread E M
Maybe Steve's Mom told him to always keep a little cash in the bank, for
rainy days. :-)

Ed
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  They should not get too comfortable.

 Remember what happened to Nortel and then RIM?

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Re: [MBZ] OT: Bought a new computer monitor made in the third world

2012-01-31 Thread E M
If you keep buying 915 transmissions for $100, I think you're well on your
way to making a fortune Larry!! ;-)  hee hee

Ed
300E

On 31 January 2012 22:00, Larry T l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

 I disagree completely w/Mountain Man/mao -

 I think it is entirely different here.  I can make a fortune here that
 would be impossible elsewhere.When I was a teen in the 60s my dad was
 making less than $5/hour and we lived in a middle class suburb with a new
 car and a used car in the driveway.

 Before I stopped working due to becoming disabled I was making 6 figures
 with less than a year of college.   I'm no smarter or connected than the
 next guy, but its possible if one tries.  I'm in my 60s now and may very
 well make a fortune during this decade.   Since becoming disabled I've lost
 what little savings I had (due to a variety of things)   but I can still
 make it happen.

 Don't know if I could excel in politics - never had the desire and never
 tried to run - Im sure it takes a bucket of money and wealthy friends
 couldn't hurt - I don't have any friends with $$s so its a moot point.

 To say the US is nothing more than a large banana republic is inaccurate
 although obama seems intent on making that so.  IMO he will never succeed
 because he can never get the military to help him...

 Maybe I am not understanding your point?

 LarryT



 On 1/31/2012 8:27 PM, Mountain Man wrote:

 Dan wrote:

 A small number of well to do families controlled the economy, who also
 worked closely with the local government.

  It ain't any different here, is it?
 We lie to ourselves to say we can achieve american dream.
 That is lies and fiction.
 Families such as you mention rule here as we can see in more ways than
 we have ever admitted in the past, these days.  It is no different
 here than DR or other countries, really.
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

2012-01-29 Thread E M
LOL, I'll have to remember that one!  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 08:28, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Kind of like what we called Kentucky chrome as a kid

 Dan former Rust Belt inhabitant


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  We refer to that shade of metallic bronze, as rust, up here in Canada.
 ;-)
  hee hee
 
  Ed
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  On 29 January 2012 00:39, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 
  wrote:
  Yeah, that looks like some sort of metallic bronze, which I would not
  expect
  on a 200D, perhaps on a S class.
 
  Hendrik
  who has no vinyl on the roof
 
 
  Dieselhead wrote:
 
  There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top color
  may
  be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 80s, quite
  a few
  were uglified by installing a vinyl top on the roof.  (ala the
 period
  GM
  hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl fake floptops.)
 
  Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong.
  Something
  is fishy about this car...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I agree, even though most of my cars have them.  Given the option, I would
order without.  I figure, if the windows roll down, that's good enough.  If
more air than that is needed, a motorcycle might be a better mode of
transport. ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 10:20, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I can't understand the need to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top to
 install a movable, potentially leaky and expensive panel, oftentimes of
 some other material.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at these



  Yeah, a lot of people have a thing for cutting the tops off cars, which I
 never understood.  I personally prefer closed cars.  With all this talk
 lately about transplanting engines, what I think would make a really cool
 project, would be to shoehorn a 6.3 into a 280SE coupe.  That would be a
 super Q car, without all the flash a lot of the current AMG models have. A
 gentleman's GT express.  :-)  Could probably make it all happen too, with
 only a medium size hammer. hee hee

 Ed
 300E

 On 29 January 2012 00:36, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I got really excited when Friendship Classics in NW DC acquired a
 280SE 3.5 cabriolet, silver with blue interior, asking only $60K for
 it (not that I have that kind of loose change, but market is well over
 $100K now).  Turns out it was a coupe conversion by an owner in FL and
 the idiotic thing was that it was a sunroof coupe to begin with.
 Still had the s/r switch in the dash.  Now that's heresy...

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
  Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a standard
 one
  in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.
  Still,  I
  think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
  respect they deserve in automotive history.
 
  A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL 
 for
 a
  Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a 
 numbers
  matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all,
 it
  was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on
 motoring
  holidays.
 
  If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of
  the
  cars on my short, wish list.  :-)
 
  As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into 
 something
  like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in,
  I
  found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not
 really
  a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 16:26, relng...@aol.com wrote:
 
  Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
 
  www.mbworld.org
 
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I remember there was a thread awhile back about a California coupe, but I
can't remember just what it was?  Refresh my memory please ?

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 13:15, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 What's the point [of a California coupe]?


 If it's built without the soft top altogether there's more
 room in the back seat area.  Think SLC back seat instead
 of SL back seat, though not with as much leg room I'm sure.

 If you rarely _need_ a top at all that might be sort of
 attractive.  But only in select areas of the country.
 Such as SoCal.

 Our converted 250C is a California coupe.  Except that
 the hard top also leaks in the rain.

 -- Jim




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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-29 Thread E M
I'd prefer to have the couple of extra inches of headroom.

All my cars also have cruise control.  I've never once used it, not sure
I'd even know how to.  I'm sure it's useful to some, but I don't see the
point.  I've driven hours and hundreds of miles at a time, without ever
feeling I need it.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 12:17, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Both of mine have'em, of course, but I rather they didn't; I've never
 opened either one of 'em.


 Wilton

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 11:31 AM

 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at these


  I agree, even though most of my cars have them.  Given the option, I would
 order without.  I figure, if the windows roll down, that's good enough. If
 more air than that is needed, a motorcycle might be a better mode of
 transport. ;-) hee hee

 Ed
 300E

 On 29 January 2012 10:20, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  I can't understand the need to cut a hole in a perfectly good steel top
 to
 install a movable, potentially leaky and expensive panel, oftentimes of
 some other material.

 Wilton

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2012 12:52 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Look at these



  Yeah, a lot of people have a thing for cutting the tops off cars, which
 I

 never understood.  I personally prefer closed cars.  With all this talk
 lately about transplanting engines, what I think would make a really
 cool
 project, would be to shoehorn a 6.3 into a 280SE coupe.  That would be a
 super Q car, without all the flash a lot of the current AMG models
 have. A
 gentleman's GT express.  :-)  Could probably make it all happen too,
 with
 only a medium size hammer. hee hee

 Ed
 300E

 On 29 January 2012 00:36, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  I got really excited when Friendship Classics in NW DC acquired a

 280SE 3.5 cabriolet, silver with blue interior, asking only $60K for
 it (not that I have that kind of loose change, but market is well over
 $100K now).  Turns out it was a coupe conversion by an owner in FL and
 the idiotic thing was that it was a sunroof coupe to begin with.
 Still had the s/r switch in the dash.  Now that's heresy...

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
  Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a 
 standard
 one
  in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.
  Still,  I
  think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
  respect they deserve in automotive history.
 
  A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL
   
 for
 a
  Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a 
 numbers
  matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of 
 all,
 it
  was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on
 motoring
  holidays.
 
  If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of
  the
  cars on my short, wish list.  :-)
 
  As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into 
 something
  like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been 
 in,
  I
  found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not
 really
  a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 16:26, relng...@aol.com wrote:
 
  Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
 
  www.mbworld.org
 
  RLE
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2012-01-29 Thread E M
Wonder if it was just a cost saving thing dreamed up by the marketing
guys?  They couldn't pitch such a car as a lightweight speedster.  I guess
they could, they've been cheeky enough to keep the SL badge on it all these
years. ;-)  hee hee

A car that requires even more faith in the weather man to drive, than a
Ferrari 550 Barchetta.  And from those rational thinking Germans too.
Who'd a thunk it. :-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 15:46, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 As described below, it's a 107 chassis with a hardtop and tonneau cover
 for the space under the hard top when removed.  There is no soft top, nor
 is there a frame for it.

 It is essentially a coupe with a removable top, NOT a convertible.

 I don't think many were made, and it's unlikely that you would see one
 unless you live in a temperate part of the continent, like SoCal or Florida.

 I just looked at my signed and numbered copy of John Olson's the SL
 experience, and found only a passing reference to the Californian, with
 no data on number produced.

 Dan



 On Jan 29, 2012, at 3:10 PM, E M wrote:

  I remember there was a thread awhile back about a California coupe, but I
  can't remember just what it was?  Refresh my memory please ?
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 29 January 2012 13:15, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 
  What's the point [of a California coupe]?
 
 
  If it's built without the soft top altogether there's more
  room in the back seat area.  Think SLC back seat instead
  of SL back seat, though not with as much leg room I'm sure.
 
  If you rarely _need_ a top at all that might be sort of
  attractive.  But only in select areas of the country.
  Such as SoCal.
 
  Our converted 250C is a California coupe.  Except that
  the hard top also leaks in the rain.
 
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm sure
it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
like YouTube and the internet now.

If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on one
too.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:

 Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
 diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?


 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
 Decades apart, in other words.

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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:

 BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
 Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
 Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
 ahead of  Daimler Benz.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

  They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
  diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
 sure
  it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
  like YouTube and the internet now.
 
  If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
 one
  too.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
 
   Allan Streib wrote:
  
   Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
   diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
  
  
   335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
   Decades apart, in other words.
  
   Mitch.
  
  
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
lol, I'll have to copy and save that one!  :-)

Don't know about the cars though, there are a few I'd love to own.  One of
my neighbours bought an old DS a few years back, and drives it in the
summer.  I would love to have that car!!!  So advanced for it's time, and
is still super cool today.  For me, a DS over a Ferrari for coolness any
day! :-)

I think the French were pretty creative engineers over the years.  They had
a hand in that plane, the Concorde, and as far as I know, they were the
first ones crazy enough to bolt a turbo to an F1 car engine.  I saw one of
those engines once up close.  They only lasted 2 hours, (about as long as
any of them lasted) but they were making 1000+ in race trim, and
1200-1400+? in qualifying trim.  Not bad for 1.5 litres.

And even if you don't like their cars, all is forgive of them, once you
taste their wine and cheeses.  Their girls are pretty cute too. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 20:43, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:

Heaven Is Where:

The French are the chefs
The Italians are the lovers
The British are the police
The Germans are the mechanics
And the Swiss make everything run on time

Hell is Where:

The British are the chefs
The Swiss are the lovers
The French are the mechanics
The Italians make everything run on time
And the Germans are the police

 E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes:

  The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
  styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
  years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
  longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
  ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
  Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
  Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger
 car,
  ahead of  Daimler Benz.
 
  On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
   diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
  sure
   it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with
 things
   like YouTube and the internet now.
  
   If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
  one
   too.
  
   Ed
   300E
  
   On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:
  
Allan Streib wrote:
   
Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in
 their
diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?
   
   
335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300
 SDL.
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Re: [MBZ] BMW Diesels

2012-01-29 Thread E M
The Bugattis were cool cars, but not so sure they were any wonders of
engineering.  Not until the Germans from VW came along anyway.  Still, they
had some cool ideas, and they were pretty committed to the idea of building
light cars, like the type 35, when Bentley were building cars there were
buses in Bugatti's opinion.  Then he built the Royals, which made the
Bentleys look like compacts. hee hee.  But he never intended those to be
race cars.  The machine turning on the engines was a nice touch too.

The French have built some of the most beautiful cars over the years.  I'm
pretty sure credit can be given to them, for starting the whole concours
thing , which we later turned into cruise night ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 21:05, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 That's pretty funny except, the French were actually responsible for
 Bugatti and the Citroen DS- a legend. Andrew and I have a good French
 friend in DC and he is one hell of a good shadetree mechanic!

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 29, 2012, at 8:43 PM, Allan Streib str...@cs.indiana.edu wrote:

 I just cannot imagine ever owning a French car.  The old joke:

   Heaven Is Where:

   The French are the chefs
   The Italians are the lovers
   The British are the police
   The Germans are the mechanics
   And the Swiss make everything run on time

   Hell is Where:

   The British are the chefs
   The Swiss are the lovers
   The French are the mechanics
   The Italians make everything run on time
   And the Germans are the police

 E M pokieba...@gmail.com writes:

 The 504s were the boxy type cars, weren't they?  I was always fond of the
 styling, but then again, I've liked a number of French cars over the
 years.  Peugeots were sold here in Canada in the 70s I believe, but no
 longer are.  I really like some of their current offerings too.  If they
 ever return, they would be a maker I'd be interested in.

 Ed
 300E

 On 29 January 2012 19:38, Hans Neureiter diese...@gmail.com wrote:

 BMW hooked up with Peugeot, who made some of the finest diesels.
 Had two 504's. Bullet proof drive trains/motors.
 Actually, Peugot produced the first  commercialy sold diesel passenger car,
 ahead of  Daimler Benz.

 On Sun, Jan 29, 2012 at 3:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 They sell a lot of BMW diesels in Europe now.  As you say, The problem
 diesels are now decades behind them.  If there were such problems, I'm
 sure
 it would be well reported.  Hard to keep such problems quiet with things
 like YouTube and the internet now.

 If the car isn't took old, I think BMW will offer extended warranty on
 one
 too.

 Ed
 300E

 On 29 January 2012 15:52, Mitch Haley m...@voyager.net wrote:

 Allan Streib wrote:

 Are these the ones that had the same engine that Lincoln used in their
 diesels (along with the Vixen motorhomes)?


 335D is the like a 524TD, in the same way a 320 CDI is like a 300 SDL.
 Decades apart, in other words.

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Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-28 Thread E M
There's an elderly lady around here with an old SDL.  Not sure of the
mileage, but the body is really rough (the cars, not the lady's).  As they
say, if the tin worms ever decided to let go of each others hands, the
whole thing would surely fall to pieces!  Cool to see that it keeps
chugging along though.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 11:49, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:



 When my SDL was retired it had travelled 662,812,000 meters or metres.
  (your choice)
 or 660,812,000,000 mm  That is 660 Billion mm.

 That means it had travelled 26 Billion inches. 26,094,960,630 inches. (for
 the angleish)

 I was hoping to get it to 1million klicks but the body work required after
 the second bout with cancer and being bashed on the side was prohibitive.

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Re: [MBZ] Serpentine belt

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Nice weekend project Wilton. :-)  Think I'm going to go out to the garage
later this evening and treat the leather on your winter car. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 15:36, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 'Just replaced serp belt on the '87 300D (125 kmi); working space on the
 300D a little tighter than the '91 350SDL (200 kmi); 300D fan shroud and
 radiator are a little closer to the engine.  Bofum done in same manner by
 removing only the belt upper tensioner damper bolt and the nut on upper
 tensioner spring bolt.

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks easily.
The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car wash
once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I used
water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up brushes.
Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash and
other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass was
dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If you
smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut the
tar first.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

 Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
 on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially about
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Re: [MBZ] flight simulators

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Thanks.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:20, relng...@aol.com wrote:

  ...Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best   Concorde, and
  747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight deck of Concorde, on
  YouTube. It would be fun to play around with a flight simulator on the
 PC
 
 X-Plane but it certainly isn't free. I don't think Concorde is in it.

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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a standard one
in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.  Still, I
think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
respect they deserve in automotive history.

A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL for a
Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a numbers
matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all, it
was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on motoring
holidays.

If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of the
cars on my short, wish list.  :-)

As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into something
like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in, I
found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not really
a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:26, relng...@aol.com wrote:

 Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.

 www.mbworld.org

 RLE
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Go back to the tread on Larry's starter.  If you find any engine is too big
to shoehorn in, you just need a bigger, or larger selection of hammers to
work with. ;-)  Nobody needs that much legroom anyway, firewalls can be
moved. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 16:55, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html

 Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning, would
 this french number be a more practical choice?

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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
On 28 January 2012 16:59, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

I use a soft toothbrush for getting the bits of dust out of the switches
and other things, along with the vacuum.

I'll be sure to keep an eye open for 303 products.

Ed
300E

I also keep a 2 natural hair paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.
  Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes
 a big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and
 crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.

 Dan



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  On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
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  All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the
 plastic parts.
 
 
  http://www.303products.com/
 
  Rick
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
 check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
I find another great source is the cosmetic counter at your local
drugstore.  All sizes and different textures of applicator brushes for
women's cosmetics, though I must admit, I'm not that fussy anymore.  A
toothbrush and vacuum pretty much does it these days.  Anything more, and
the first time I roll the window down, all that hard work is pretty much
down the drain in seconds.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:16, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Brushes are great for getting stuff out of seams etc. Griots garage used
 to sell interior detailing brushes. They were basically your typical
 basting brush resold as a detailing tool.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:13 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 On 28 January 2012 16:59, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I use a soft toothbrush for getting the bits of dust out of the switches
 and other things, along with the vacuum.

 I'll be sure to keep an eye open for 303 products.

 Ed
 300E

 I also keep a 2 natural hair paint brush in my glovebox for touchups.
 Believe it or not, using this little brush that cost me under a buck makes
 a big difference in keeping dust and dirt out of all the little nooks and
 crannies between switches and in the places on the dash and console.

 Dan



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 On Jan 28, 2012, at 1:46 PM, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com
 wrote:

 All suggestions appreciated; especially about preservatives for the
 plastic parts.


 http://www.303products.com/

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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

2012-01-28 Thread E M
I haven't driven one, but my friend still counts it as one of the best cars
he has ever owned.  He's owned Porsches, Jags, and others, both new and
vintage.  Parts are getting a bit pricey, but it's a real drivers car, and
worth getting on the road again.

Have fun with it!

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:22, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
 from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but
 it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate
 till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

 Ed
 300E

 On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
 check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:



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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

2012-01-28 Thread E M
The tin worm was quite fond of the taste of 2002 panels, but as far as I
know, many (most) of the parts are still available.  Thinking back, it
really was a car that started that whole segment, and set the standard
that's still referred to today.  There's more than a little 2002 DNA in
every M3.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:29, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:

 The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around
 here are gone.

 Peter


 On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:

  I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
 from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected but
 it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to investigate
 till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.

 Ed
 300E

 On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
 check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:


 http://www.bmw2002faq.com/**component/option,com_forum/**
 Itemid,50/page,viewtopic/t,**368415/sid,**8f7606df911048e0dcf7ec692e7865*
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Go for the most power, and use whatever size hammer is necessary to make it
fit! ;-)

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 17:52, Dieselhead 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 Whoa!  I am positive a OM603 is no longer than the twin cam 280 gasser.
  There were links posted about installing a 60x and how to get hood
 clearance.

 Personally, i think I'd opt for a 602 turbo, but an 86-87 603 is more
 powerful.


  
 http://seattle.craigslist.org/**see/for/2822825687.htmlhttp://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html

 Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning,
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol

We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
language.  Now they're going to be saying, look at that idiot Canadian, he
can't even spell chamois!  lol

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;)))

 Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for wiping
 the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


  The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks easily.
 The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
 going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
 deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car wash
 once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I used
 water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up brushes.
 Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
 off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
 started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
 all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash and
 other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
 various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
 onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
 Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
 Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
 Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
 streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
 and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass was
 dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If you
 smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut the
 tar first.

 Ed
 300E

 On 28 January 2012 14:39, Gerry Archer arche...@embarqmail.com wrote:

  Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a compliment
 on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
 about
 preservatives for the plastic parts. Thanks,
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
I've read that it does prevents cracking and checking on tires, by pulling
the various polymers to the surface.  I don't worry about it on tires, as
tires aren't kept that long, but I know it's not so great to use on
interior parts.  When I use it, I do cut it 50/50 with water, and I find it
helps to take that fake shine off it too.

I'm sure there are better things out there, I just have explored them yet.
I should see if I can find some of the 303 products for plastic and rubber.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 18:44, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Armorall kills everything.

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

  On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
   Armorall.
 
  DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!
 
  It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
  crack severly.
 
  I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue
 dashboards.
 
 
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
They recently have changed the formula, according to the last jug I
bought.  I'm more jell like now.  I doesn't run all over the rims like the
old stuff, and doesn't have the funny shine to it, like the original.
Before this, I was using their formula that was more natural looking(can't
remember the name, low gloss?), but it was still runny like the original.
I'm not sure just how they've changed the formula, or if it now works in a
different way than before.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 20:11, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It seems to be pretty well known in the car world that armorall is
 detrimental. I wonder why they just don't change their formula.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 28, 2012, at 6:44 PM, Jaime Kopchinski jaime...@gmail.com wrote:

 Armorall kills everything.

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:39 PM, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 16:22:11 -0500 E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:

 I then treated the dash and other similar parts with plain old
 Armorall.

 DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT USE ARMORALL ON DARK BLUE W123 DASHBOARDS!

 It will leach the plasticizers out of them and cause them to chalk and
 crack severly.

 I do not know about other colors, but Armorall kills dark blue dashboards.


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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
You're always nice Wilton, a proper Southern Gent!  :-)  Even when pointing
out, I can't spell. ;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 19:44, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 I was trying to be nice.  ;)))

 Wilton

 - Original Message - From: E M pokieba...@gmail.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 6:43 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


  There you go, that's the word I was looking for!! ;-)  lol

 We made fun over the last day of what the Americans do to the English
 language.  Now they're going to be saying, look at that idiot Canadian,
 he
 can't even spell chamois!  lol

 Ed
 300E

 On 28 January 2012 18:20, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

  Shammy - also known as chamois?  ;)))

 Either way, I used to have coupla large ones that worked nicely for
 wiping
 the car down after washing to prevent water spotting.

 Wilton

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 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 4:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior


  The interior on my 300E is quite light, so it shows dirt and marks
 easily.

 The car was always well kept, but when I first got it, I gave it a good
 going over all the same.  It was a non smoker car, so nothing too bad to
 deal with.  I'm sure it was the type of car that was through the car
 wash
 once or twice a week, and a vacuuming to go along with it.  Anyway, I
 used
 water and a mild soap, along with one of those surgical scrub up
 brushes.
 Very fine plastic bristles.  I would lightly do a section, then towel is
 off with paper towel.  Even though the car looks quite clean when I
 started, it was amazing to see just how much dirt still came off.  I did
 all the plastic bits, and MBtex the same way.  I then treated the dash
 and
 other similar parts with plain old Armorall.  I spray the Armorall onto
 various size sponges, and then apply that way, I never spray it directly
 onto any surface, other than tire sidewalls.  The wood is treated with a
 Johnson's hard wax paste.  Allow to dry, and buff with a soft cloth.
 Pledge for touch-ups.  One thing I never use, is Windex on the glass.
 Might just be me, but I always have bad luck with it.  I find it very
 streaky.  I just use a shammy (sp) with warm water, on both the interior
 and exterior sides of the glass.  Find it works well, but if the glass
 was
 dirty, I would first use some soap based cleaner on the exterior.  If
 you
 smoke, Windex or some other ammonia type thing might work, to help cut
 the
 tar first.

 Ed
 300E

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  Now that the outside of the '83 240D is waxed, (already had a
 compliment

 on it), the inside is next.  All suggestions appreciated; especially
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Re: [MBZ] R107 heresey

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Even has the owners manual on the passenger seat.  If he's willing to have
it towed away for scrap, I'm betting you could get it for a good chunk less
than the asking $750.

Ed
300E

On 28 January 2012 19:10, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:

 Laugh, Funny Man!!!  I just found this

 http://seattle.craigslist.org/oly/cto/2822899982.html

 I probably have no interest... yet.   Then again, it would be nice to have
 another old diesel in the stable

 clay




 On Jan 28, 2012, at 2:01 PM, E M wrote:

  Go back to the tread on Larry's starter.  If you find any engine is too
 big
  to shoehorn in, you just need a bigger, or larger selection of hammers to
  work with. ;-)  Nobody needs that much legroom anyway, firewalls can be
  moved. hee hee
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 16:55, clay monroe redgh...@comcast.net wrote:
 
  http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/for/2822825687.html
 
  Since the group has decided that a om603 is too big for shoehorning,
 would
  this french number be a more practical choice?
 
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Re: [MBZ] Look at these

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Yeah, a lot of people have a thing for cutting the tops off cars, which I
never understood.  I personally prefer closed cars.  With all this talk
lately about transplanting engines, what I think would make a really cool
project, would be to shoehorn a 6.3 into a 280SE coupe.  That would be a
super Q car, without all the flash a lot of the current AMG models have.  A
gentleman's GT express.  :-)  Could probably make it all happen too, with
only a medium size hammer. hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:36, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I got really excited when Friendship Classics in NW DC acquired a
 280SE 3.5 cabriolet, silver with blue interior, asking only $60K for
 it (not that I have that kind of loose change, but market is well over
 $100K now).  Turns out it was a coupe conversion by an owner in FL and
 the idiotic thing was that it was a sunroof coupe to begin with.
 Still had the s/r switch in the dash.  Now that's heresy...

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 4:57 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
  Gullwing prices are going through the roof it seems.  Even a standard
 one
  in decent shape is going to set you back $6-700,000 these days.  Still, I
  think they were undervalued for many years, and not given the proper
  respect they deserve in automotive history.
 
  A fellow I knew in the club years ago, traded a mint restored 300 SL for
 a
  Gullwing project car, that was pulled out of a pond.  It wasn't a numbers
  matching car, but they did a lovely job restoring it.  And best of all,
 it
  was a car he really enjoyed, drove regularly, and even took it on
 motoring
  holidays.
 
  If my numbers ever come in on the lottery, a Gullwing is still one of the
  cars on my short, wish list.  :-)
 
  As for the G Wagon, I'd prefer to see Mercedes drop a V12 into something
  like the new CLS, before the G.  As for the few G Wagons I've been in, I
  found the ergonomics kind of weird.  Not weird for a truck, but not
 really
  a platform that is crying out for a twin turbo V12. hee hee.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 16:26, relng...@aol.com wrote:
 
  Go here and look at the first four cars, scrolling down.
 
  www.mbworld.org
 
  RLE
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Re: [MBZ] OT. My BMW project- Metalwork

2012-01-28 Thread E M
No personal experience.  I think they've just released a new 550 diesel,
which has killer torque, and pretty good fuel mileage.  The diesel 3 series
was offered here in Canada, but not sure how well it sold.  I think it sold
at a bit of a premium, which scared some off.  The only negative thing I've
ever read about the current 3 Series, is that they suffered higher than
average problems with their transmissions.  I'm not sure how reliable the
source was, or if I'd trust it, but given the price of rebuilds out of
warranty, worth a close look at while doing the PPI.  New 3 series is due
out soon, with the coupe and M3 to follow, so I'm told.  That could help
lower the price somewhat on the current, or slightly used cars, as a new
model release always does.

Haven't tried my friends new 335iX yet, but looking forward to it.  He has
a lot of rally experience, and he tells me the car so far, has been great
in the snow and wet.  I was to go out today, but got tied up with stuff.
Lots of snowy days left to play this winter.  ;-)

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:38, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 My son may want to buy a BMW 335 D to replace his toasted Subaru.  Any
 thoughts as to reliability, etc.?

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 6:15 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
  The tin worm was quite fond of the taste of 2002 panels, but as far as I
  know, many (most) of the parts are still available.  Thinking back, it
  really was a car that started that whole segment, and set the standard
  that's still referred to today.  There's more than a little 2002 DNA in
  every M3.  ;-)
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 17:29, Peter Frederick psf...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  The 2002 is the nicest car I've ever driven.  Sadly, all the ones around
  here are gone.
 
  Peter
 
 
  On Jan 28, 2012, at 4:22 PM, Dimitri Seretakis wrote:
 
   I never really drove it- just the seven miles or so on three cylinders
  from the PO's place to my place. On of the plug wires was disconnected
 but
  it was dark, late and rainy that night so I didn't bother to
 investigate
  till I got home. I hear they are a blast to drive.
 
  Sent from my iPhone
 
  On Jan 28, 2012, at 5:14 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Nice car.  Friend had one years ago, and still misses it.
 
  Ed
  300E
 
  On 28 January 2012 17:07, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
  I'm replacing the smashed nose on my 73 BMW 2002. For all you 02 fans,
  check out this thread on the BMW2002FAQ forum:
 
 
  http://www.bmw2002faq.com/**component/option,com_forum/**
 
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Re: [MBZ] WAS 110 Heresey Was: R107 heresey now Heresy

2012-01-28 Thread E M
We refer to that shade of metallic bronze, as rust, up here in Canada. ;-)
hee hee

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:39, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Jan 28, 2012 at 11:31 PM, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 wrote:
  Yeah, that looks like some sort of metallic bronze, which I would not
 expect
  on a 200D, perhaps on a S class.
 
  Hendrik
  who has no vinyl on the roof
 
 
  Dieselhead wrote:
 
  There were a few factory two tones.  Very few in a 110.  The top color
 may
  be right, but the body color is not factory.   In the early 80s, quite
 a few
  were uglified by installing a vinyl top on the roof.  (ala the period
 GM
  hunks o junk with 10 foot hoods and vinyl fake floptops.)
 
  Never seen a factory two tone paint job.  Colors are all wrong.
 Something
  is fishy about this car...
 
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Re: [MBZ] Detailing interior

2012-01-28 Thread E M
I think there are several places that offer such repairs, that will come
right to your house.  I've seen the trucks around...they offer leather,
vinyl, dash, repairs.  They would probably be your best bet for getting the
colour, and texture right.  As with the guys who replace windshields at
your home, the price for the same work can really vary, so I'm sure you
could call around and get a pretty good deal on the seat.

If you want to do it yourself, you can always go to the boneyard and get
some old MBtex to experiment with, and get a feel for getting the texture
right.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:40, Craig diese...@pisquared.net wrote:

 On Sat, 28 Jan 2012 20:47:36 -0800 (PST) Dimitri Seretakis
 dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

  Would shoe goo be a good option to repair a tear?

 Though it would probably function very well mechanically, getting it
 smooth and matching the Tex would be very difficult.


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Re: [MBZ] How to restore a cracked blue W123 dash

2012-01-28 Thread E M
Again, no personal experience, but I think touching up, and matching new to
old is often tricky, especially with a surface like a dash, that's exposed
to sun.

A friend bought a one year old Audi A4.  The PO stuck some kind of air
freshener thing on the dash, and it left a mark.  He's in the same position
as you.  The dash isn't damaged, but there is a mark that he can't get off
with everything that he's tried.  So it's either refinish the dash (which I
think might make it look worse than just leaving it alone), or replacing
it, at $1600.  I think the glue most have pulled some of the chemicals in
the dash, to the surface.  Bummer though, with a new car.

Ed
300E

On 29 January 2012 00:46, andrew strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com wrote:

 I have two W123 300TDs with dash issues.  One has some cracks on the
 top of the dash, and the other has four small holes where the idiot PO
 mounted some sort of plaque.  What makes him an uber-idiot is that he
 had replaced the dash and it was pristine prior to drilling those
 holes.

 Anyway, how good are the various blue dyes (e.g., Leatherique) in
 matching the OEM blue color on a touchup basis?  Or will I need to
 fill the cracks and holes and respray each dash in its entirety?

 Andrew
 1983 and 1985 300TDs

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Re: [MBZ] seatbelts

2012-01-27 Thread E M
Hmm, don't know.  I know there's a date stamp inside the door saying when
the airbag should be serviced.  Maybe they check and replace the belt
tensioners if required at the same time?

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 13:07, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Jan 27, 2012 7:55 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:
 
  Do the front belts in a W124 have an explosive charge to tighten them in
  the event of an accident?
 
 
  Yes, so far as I know.  If they've got a bag they
  have belt tensioners too.
 
 

 But are they still functional after twenty-some years, I wonder?  Anyone
 know if the squibs are protected against moisture?  (Are they more like
 20-year-old ammunition, which usually shoots fine, or 29-year-old
 fireworks, which just fizzle out (if that) when lit?)

 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-27 Thread E M
Try dumping some of that cargo in the bays, see if it doesn't help
performance somewhat.  ;-)  Just don't do it over my backyard please.  Hee
hee

I used to help out at a local aviation museum here.  We were restoring an
old Lanc.  I remember reading the performance figures at the time back
then, but can't remember them now.  I do remember there was quite a
difference in performance with a full load, and empty.  Deliver the cargo,
and then hightail it home.  Pretty slow target on the way to work though,
as I remember.  Must have taken some guts to strap in to one of those old
birds!!

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 12:01, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS

 Wilton

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 Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters


  WILTON wrote:


  Stirred up?  Who, me?!  Maybe y'oughta consider mega as in
 tons while I'm calling in a B-52 strike.   ;)))


 Speaking of.

 I was flying a B-52 on the computer simulator the other day.
 And I'm curious - what is the cruising speed?  With 100%
 throttle I never seemed to be able to get above about 300
 knots at 25,000 ft flying level.  Does that seem about right?
 Or is FlighGear clueless. :)

 --   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-27 Thread E M
I had an uncle who flew in a Lanc during the war...rear gunner.  The guy
had lots of stories, some great, some not so great.  One mission, the plane
was pretty shot up, and the floor of the rear turret was shot out.  As he
tells it, he had his legs dangling out during the flight home.  Flying over
the water and looking down, he told me he kept thinking, higher, higher!

I also have a friend who flies.  He too can't get on a chair to change a
light bulb, but no problems flying.  Doesn't seem to be that uncommon
amongst pilots.

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 14:29, Rich Thomas
richthomas79td...@constructivity.netwrote:

 I had a neighbor when I lived near Boston who flew B-17s to deliver the
 goods in Europe.  He did a year at GA Tech then joined up, they sent him to
 flight school then stuck him in the left seat in England and off he went.
  He flew toward the end, but it was hairy enough according to some of his
 stories.  He did have some good experiences when the end of the war was
 announced, seemed many young ladies had considerable gratitude for what the
 Yank flyboys had done for Old Blighty  The guy was afraid to get on a 2
 step ladder but never had a problem in the plane.

 --R


 On 1/27/12 1:44 PM, E M wrote:

 Try dumping some of that cargo in the bays, see if it doesn't help
 performance somewhat.  ;-)  Just don't do it over my backyard please.  Hee
 hee

 I used to help out at a local aviation museum here.  We were restoring an
 old Lanc.  I remember reading the performance figures at the time back
 then, but can't remember them now.  I do remember there was quite a
 difference in performance with a full load, and empty.  Deliver the cargo,
 and then hightail it home.  Pretty slow target on the way to work though,
 as I remember.  Must have taken some guts to strap in to one of those old
 birds!!

 Ed
 300E

 On 27 January 2012 12:01, WILTONwilt...@nc.rr.com  wrote:

  Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS, MACH .77; 444 kts TAS

 Wilton

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 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2012 12:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters


  WILTON wrote:

  Stirred up?  Who, me?!  Maybe y'oughta consider mega as in

 tons while I'm calling in a B-52 strike.   ;)))

  Speaking of.

 I was flying a B-52 on the computer simulator the other day.
 And I'm curious - what is the cruising speed?  With 100%
 throttle I never seemed to be able to get above about 300
 knots at 25,000 ft flying level.  Does that seem about right?
 Or is FlighGear clueless. :)

 --   Philip

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Re: [MBZ] seatbelts

2012-01-27 Thread E M
I'll have to double check, I haven't looked at the date stamp in some time
now.  I seem to recall that the date was over written with a later date on
mine, so not sure if that meant the airbag was serviced, and then a new
recheck date was issued.  It was always dealer serviced before I got it.

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 15:44, Dimitri Seretakis dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I thought it was extended to 15 yrs but maybe that's for later models.

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2012, at 2:42 PM, Dan Penoff lwb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Air bags are supposedly out of service after something like ten years.

 I seem to recall a service bulletin saying something to that effect.

 Dan

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 27, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Alex Chamberlain apchamberl...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 On Jan 27, 2012 7:55 AM, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 Do the front belts in a W124 have an explosive charge to tighten them in
 the event of an accident?


 Yes, so far as I know.  If they've got a bag they
 have belt tensioners too.



 But are they still functional after twenty-some years, I wonder?  Anyone
 know if the squibs are protected against moisture?  (Are they more like
 20-year-old ammunition, which usually shoots fine, or 29-year-old
 fireworks, which just fizzle out (if that) when lit?)

 Alex
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Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-27 Thread E M
Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best Concorde, and 747 ?
I've watched numerous videos of the flight deck of Concorde, on YouTube.
It would be fun to play around with a flight simulator on the PC.  :-)

Captain Ed.
300E

On 27 January 2012 15:23, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  WILTON wrote:

  Much more typical, en route cruise for a B-52 is at 35 or 37
  kft (easily go much higher); IAS 238 kts, MACH .77, 444 kts
  TAS; combat cruise at 250 kts IAS, mach .82, 470 kts TAS.
  Easily go significant faster.  I've seldom known a B-52 to
  stay at 25 kft long.

  Cruising at 25,000ft, temp ~ -50C; 305kts IAS/CAS,
  MACH .77; 444 kts TAS

 Thanks Wilton!  As I suspected, FlightGear isn't totally
 accurate.  Oh well. It's kinda fun anyway.  I have loaded
 numerous planes - from F14, to B-52, to Sopwith Camel - even a
 paper airplane!

 --Philip

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Re: [MBZ] seatbelts

2012-01-27 Thread E M
Are there any extra precautions that need to be taken when doing such
things, or are they pretty safe to work around, providing you don't drive
into anything while you're working on them?  I'm always a bit nervous
working around things that can go bang in my face.  :-)

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 16:34, Rick Knoble rickkno...@hotmail.com wrote:

  Do the front belts in a W124 have an explosive charge to tighten them in
  the event of an accident?

 I just lubed the reels for the front seat belts on my W123 and it has the
 explosive squibs.

 Rick
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Re: [MBZ] B-52 was: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-27 Thread E M
Thanks for the link, I'll be sure to check it out!

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 21:45, Fmiser fmi...@gmail.com wrote:

  Captain Ed wrote:
 
  Any thoughts on what flight simulators offer the best
  Concorde, and 747 ? I've watched numerous videos of the flight
  deck of Concorde, on YouTube. It would be fun to play around
  with a flight simulator on the PC.  :-)

 Don't know about best - but I like Flightgear
 http://www.flightgear.org/

 It is open source and no cost.  And it is available for Mac,
 Linux, and MS Win.  And there are _lots_ of 'planes to choose
 choose from.

 But based on our local B-52 expert, the simulator is not
 necessarily totally accurate.  Either that or I'm a _lousy_
 pilot...

 -- Philip

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Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI

2012-01-26 Thread E M
199 km, did he buy a Canadian spec R  ?

Ed
300E

On 26 January 2012 16:50, WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com wrote:

 #2 son here few minutes ago; 'said his '07 R320CDI (199 kmi) torque
 converter has RSN (rumble strip noise) syndrome during acceleration; 'also
 said Sprinter vans have it, too.

 Wilton
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Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with yottamiles

2012-01-26 Thread E M
Guess I'm just past broken in now at 340,xxx km. ;-)  Mind you, it now
needs a valve job, so is that where the term, broken in first came from
??? hmm

Ed
300E

On 26 January 2012 21:31, Curt Raymond curtlud...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I regularly chuckle at some of our northern members when they post about
 high mileage and use kms of less than 300,000. I don't consider a car
 broken in until 200,000 miles or 321,868km.

 -CurtT
 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 2012 21:23:17 -0500
 From: WILTON wilt...@nc.rr.com
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with yottamiles
 Message-ID: 389852D936704C4FB509044617F0F219@wiltonPC
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 reply-type=response

 Yep, others and I made it up, and those who noticed the mI (the i
 carefully
 and deliberately placed) understood it, so it must have worked as
 effective
 communication.  ;))

 Wilton

 - Original Message -
 From: Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au
 To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
 Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2012 8:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with yottamiles


  You made that up, no such thing as a kilomile (even my spell checker
  thinks so), or is this some sort of aeronautical term?
  Kilo is a metric term and miles is part of the ancient and outdated
 system
  that only backwards people use.
  You can use k to abbreviate kilo, meaning a 1000 and you can use km to
  abbreviate kilometers but a kilomile would be 1609.344km, so if that
 R320
  has done 199kilomiles, it has in fact traveled.well..lots
 
  Hendrik
  who may let you use the term kilomile if he gets a shiny plate
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Re: [MBZ] 07 R320CDI with 199kmi

2012-01-26 Thread E M
Both, probably. ;-)

ml ??  Are we talking liquids now??  hee hee.  ;-)  We must be really
starved for conversation tonight.  I think threads on how to pull and
rebuild an engine have been shorter than this one.  Quick, somebody go out
and mess something up on there carthen come back and we'll talk about
it.  And just to make it interesting, when we're talking about what tools
are needed to fix it, we have to talk metric, and also convert into old
world money. ;-)

Ed
300E

On 26 January 2012 21:47, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 OK fair enough I went back over the thread and it looks like Ed needs
 glasses or a bigger screen.

 Hendrik
 who can take his tongue out of his cheek now

 WILTON wrote:

 Yep, others and I made it up, and those who noticed the mI (the i
 carefully and deliberately placed) understood it, so it must have worked as
 effective communication.  ;))

 Wilton





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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 07 R320CDI with yottamiles

2012-01-26 Thread E M
I'll take half a kilocents worth of that sliced Swiss cheese, when you get
a moment. ;-) hee hee.  Say that the next time you're at the deli, and
really mess with their heads! ;-)

Ed
300D

On 26 January 2012 21:43, Jim Cathey j...@windwireless.net wrote:

 You can use k to abbreviate kilo, meaning a 1000 and you can use km to
 abbreviate kilometers but a kilomile would be 1609.344km, so if that R320
 has done 199kilomiles, it has in fact traveled.well..**lots


 One can rate many things in kilos.  Kilobuck, Kilowatt, etc.
 Why not Kilomile?

 -- Jim



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Re: [MBZ] Was blurry eyed Ed, now Hirschy aerials

2012-01-26 Thread E M
Full points, you worked both metric and old money very nicely into that
post! ;-)

Did you know Mercedes make little towelettes for cleaning and lubing the
aerial?  Little packets, like hand-wipes.  I know cos I have a box in the
truck.  I know, I'm a bit goofy!  hee hee.

Every wonder why a service at the dealer is so expensive?  I had a friend
who used to work at a dealer.  One of the many things they did while
performing a service, was to have two guys; one holding a cloth to lube the
aerial, while the the other guy sat in the car and turned the radio on and
off.  Having a box of aerial towelettes in the truck doesn't seem so
extravagant now.  hee hee

Ed
300E

On 26 January 2012 23:42, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Whatdda matter your eyes getting sore and blurry again?

 Anyway for a bit of genuine Hirschmann content, I got my TE back the other
 day, after being on loan and notice that the aerial is failling to fully
 retract.
 OK fair enough, time for a service and they are ooohh so easy to pull
 out of a S124, pulled it apart, yep small pressure wheel has wear spot,
 even though it is lubricated and free to turn, mast has a tight spot right
 down the bottom, bugger, slight bend, attempts at straightening have some
 success and cleaning of mast frees it up just about except for the last 6in
 being a bit tight but not too bad.
 Reassemble and test shows it to retract all the way except for about 1cm,
 well I can live with that because further attempts to get the mast straight
 may well lead to a worse condition and a cm sticking out is not worth
 buying a new mast for. So I put it back in the car and of course it is not
 doing the right thing. HMMNh I think to myself, give it a couple of more
 cycles and it will retract if I turn on the radio let the mast go up a
 couple small Imperial measurment units and then switch it off, do this 5
 times and it back down to 1 small metric measurement stick out. Right O I
 have spares in a draw in a workshop in a garage under the house, so I get
 said spares and swap over electrics, test reveals that it is retracting
 down to a centimetre (note proper spelling), stick it back in the car and
 all is well.
 So I guess that the motor in the other Hirschy was a bit tired or the ECU
 in that one is wonky?
 Ooh yeah and I had a go at repairing the pressure wheel, involving a
 welder, a grinder and a dremel tool. So far so good.

 Hendrik
 who always grabs old Hirschy bits and pieces out of wrecks

 E M wrote:

  I think threads on how to pull and
 rebuild an engine have been shorter than this one.  Quick, somebody go out
 and mess something up on there carthen come back and we'll talk about
 it.  And just to make it interesting, when we're talking about what tools
 are needed to fix it, we have to talk metric, and also convert into old
 world money. ;-)

 Ed
 300E






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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 07 R320CDI with 320259000meters

2012-01-26 Thread E M
If it was a description of a car in Craig's List, it's probably one you
would want to pass on.  ;-)

Ed
300E


 The correct way would be to use M rather than k km.
 Though I'm pretty sure not even I would correctly interpret
 395 Mm.

 --  Philip

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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 07 R320CDI with a messed up Ed

2012-01-26 Thread E M
What did you do earlier in the week, when wikipedia was down for a day?
;-) hee hee

Ed
300E

On 26 January 2012 23:47, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Shouldn't that be delicatessen 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Delicatessenhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delicatessenor
  have the Yanks been butchering again?

 Hendrik
 who is delicatmessing around

 E M wrote:

 I'll take half a kilocents worth of that sliced Swiss cheese, when you get
 a moment. ;-) hee hee.  Say that the next time you're at the deli, and
 really mess with their heads! ;-)

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Re: [MBZ] was 07 R320CDI with 199kmi now 123 person belts

2012-01-26 Thread E M
LOL.

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 00:08, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Tsk Tsk Tsk, not changing subject line is a punishable offence, your
 punishment shall be drinking a cup of English tea and signing rule
 Britannia on the front lawn on the 4th of July. Do it again and you'll have
 to hang the union jack on the front of your house.
 Anyway the seat belt is behind that cover on the B pillar, which from
 memory is removed by taking out the screw(s) down the bottom and the
 pulling it out and down. Be sure to use a metric screwdriver as these are
 metric screws, made in a metricated country.
 The actual repair is another matter, one which I am not familiar with.
 I have had person belts in lesser cars play up and leaving them for a
 while, seemed to get em going again.

 Hendrik
 who gets lots of exercise pushing his luck

 Rick Knoble wrote:

 On Jan 26, 2012, at 9:57 PM, E M pokieba...@gmail.com wrote:



 Quick, somebody go out
 and mess something up on there carthen come back and we'll talk about
 it.



 Alrighty then. The seat belt on the passenger side of my w123 sedan will
 neither extend nor retract. Where is the tensioner and how do I fix it?

 Rick
 Sent from my distant extension
 of A.G. Bell's invention






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Re: [MBZ] Was blurry eyed Ed, now Hirschy aerials

2012-01-26 Thread E M
As long as it's Mercedes approved grease, we'll let it go...this time.

Remember though, if you really are using grease, anything and everything
will stick to it, which will gum it up in time.  Something a bit lighter,
and less manly might do the trick. ;-)  If that doesn't work, I'll send you
a girly towelette.  If anyone laughs at you, you can show them the official
Mercedes wrapper it came in.  I think they award extra points at a concours
if you have a few of them in the glove box.

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 00:14, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Yeah but I have lots of black moly grease, what's wrong with that stuff?

 Hendrik
 who thinks that towelettes are not as manly as good old black grease

 E M wrote:

 Full points, you worked both metric and old money very nicely into that
 post! ;-)

 Did you know Mercedes make little towelettes for cleaning and lubing the
 aerial?  Little packets, like hand-wipes.  I know cos I have a box in the
 truck.  I know, I'm a bit goofy!  hee hee.

 Every wonder why a service at the dealer is so expensive?  I had a friend
 who used to work at a dealer.  One of the many things they did while
 performing a service, was to have two guys; one holding a cloth to lube
 the
 aerial, while the the other guy sat in the car and turned the radio on and
 off.  Having a box of aerial towelettes in the truck doesn't seem so
 extravagant now.  hee hee

 Ed
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Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: 07 R320CDI with a messed up Ed

2012-01-26 Thread E M
Worked through my frustration, by going onto Flickr, and hitting the
protest button on every picture I could, to temporarily darken them for
the day.  It didn't help, so I ended up drinking beer too.

Ed
300E

On 27 January 2012 00:22, Hendrik  Fay heni...@ozemail.com.au wrote:

 Drank beer and cursed the US dictatorship.
 Why? What did you do?

 Hendrik
 who is probably on the secrecy CIA database

 E M wrote:

 What did you do earlier in the week, when wikipedia was down for a day?
 ;-) hee hee

 Ed
 300E





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