Re: [MBZ] Nice W140

[LarryT via Mercedes]

It's a shame it's black - never my favorite color choice.  If it were 
silver or white ...

LarryT
91 300D

On 11/25/2017 10:40 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes wrote:

Opinions are like...

$8100, about $7500 out of my price range.

--FT


On 11/24/17 2:44 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

That is one butt-ugly car IMHO.

On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:


If you were looking for a really nice W140, this is the one to get:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/282740244985?rmvSB=true

Grand Edition.  Very well appointed.

-D



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[MBZ] Happy Thanksgiving!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

	I hope everyone had a great Thanksgiving filled with good food and 
great family!  Here in central Va, it's a little after 9 and the Big 
Dinner has been moved from the table to our stomachs!  And everything 
was delicious - especially the Apple Pie!  ;-)


	I lurk much of the time and apologize for that as I know I miss much of 
the awesome conversations I catch parts of.


Here's wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy and Prosperous New 
Year!!

LarryT
91 300D
Est. 280,nnn Miles

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[MBZ] List active?

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[MBZ] E320 Wagon

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi - I sent this yesterday but it has not appeared. Perhaps I was bumped 
from membership again and I missed the email?   Anyway- 04, all options 
appears to be in good condition.  Are there any inherent problems to 
look for?


139K miles... asking $12k

thanks,
Larry
91 300D
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[MBZ] 2004 E320 Wagon?

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Anyone have any info about the above, good or bad traits, etc.? Things 
to worry about or look for?  It runs smooth and easy without any 
problems I see.  I know they're not diesels but do the parts cost a arm 
 leg or just an arm?  It has ~140K miles, fully loaded starting  asking 
price is $12K.


I'm still researching everything - my wife will be the primary driver - 
to  from work...   Her 91 300D has 250K mi and while still running 
great I worry something unforeseen will happen.


Not planning to 'pull the trigger' any time soon but have started the 
process.


Thanks -
Larry
91 300D
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[MBZ] Electrical Relay guide

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I found this when looking for info on 12v Relays:
http://www.12voltplanet.co.uk/relay-guide.html

All of the info is helpful but the part I thought the owners of older 
cars might benefit from is down toward the bottom.  It tells how to add 
a buzzer using a simple relay wired to the front door light switch so a 
warning can be added if you leaves the lights on. Also, a relay can be 
added to add fog lights to the main headlight circuit as well as a few 
other ideas.


Along with the above there's info on testing relays and the internal 
design of relays so the correct replacement can be found if need be.


Enjoy -
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[MBZ] Grill Removal - Unable to Open hood -- W124 '91 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang -
I have tried all your suggestions and a few of my own to get the 
hood to pop up so I can open it.  I bought a used Grill Shell w/Insert 
so I can break up the original one and hopefully get the hood latch to 
release.


There's a pair of fans for the AC condenser but it looks like 
there's enough room to work with.


So i am wondering if there's any creative ways to break open the 
grill element?  I think I can get the chrome surround off once the 
insert is opened up and then will have enough room  to reach the latch  
release it.


Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Hood Won't Release

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang -
After trying everything to get the hood open (thanks for all the 
great suggestions), I used a die grinder with a thin cutting blade that 
went through that plastic like butter!Once I had the grill insert 
cut out I thought I'd give it anohter try and see if we could get it 
open.   I asked my wife to help and while I sat on the hood, she tried 
to pull the little tab that pops through grill  when the release is 
pulled.  It seemed to move s 1/4 or so but it wasn't going farther than 
that.


So I got down and studied the situation and finally focused on the 
pull latch that sticks through the grill.  It appeared the threads of 
the bolt that holds the tab on was rubbing against the radiator support 
bar!  Sure enough, I used a screw driver  with almost no force, it came 
around that round support!Several months ago and many, many hood 
opening and closings later,  I had replaced the little tab that sticks 
through the grill.   I must have put the bolt in backwards and 
eventually, the threads on the bolt caught on the support and refused to 
let it go.


I pulled the bolt out and reversed it so it would clear from now 
on.  It was a dumb mistake which cost me around $100 for the replacement 
grill and insert plus many hours agonizing over how I'd get it open and 
finally about 3 hours to actually remove and replace the grill.


So it's fixed and at least the replacement grill looks better than 
my old one.


Just be forewarned -- if you must replace the little tab that 
extends through the grill, be sure to put the head of the bolt on the 
passenger side to prevent an interference.


Thanks again for helping me think through this problem -

LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] W124 Hood Release will not work

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I bought a grill insert with the chrome surround and star on ebay. Now, 
when it arrives, I can go through the egg crate and find a way to 
release the hood.


Thanks again for all the help.

LarryT
91 300D

On 7/15/2015 12:23 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes wrote:



On July 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


Worst-case scenario: source a new plastic grill insert, and
bash the old one out with a hammer.  Then you can reach in with
a screwdriver and lever it open.  Then fix it, before putting
in the new grille.

That reminds me, I haven't had the hood open on my S210 since January.
I could do as Jim suggests, but with a 210 it would cost me a grill insert,
A/C condenser, and radiator at the minimum. If I could get the headlight out
I think it would be easy. Crawling under with a flashlight, I just can't seem
to get a straight shot at the latch from below.

Right before the failure, I took both latches out and cleaned/lubed them so they
would actually latch. I suspect the cable fell out of the left one after I put
it
back together.

Mitch.

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Re: [MBZ] W124 Hood Release will not work

[LarryT via Mercedes]

my 91 300D still has a hood release that will not do anything.   The 
lever is attached to the lower dash next to the A Pillar.   I have 
pulled, pushed and cursed at it will equal results.  Nothing budges.   
Efforts to move the hood itself are just as frustrating. Neither side of 
the hood will lift even a little and the grill section does not budge at 
all.  Efforts to push down also failed. The hood does not move in any 
direction - I put much of my 230#'s on each side and nothing seemed to move.


That latch mechanism seems completely frozen.   There was no inkling of 
a problem in the past - I changed the fog light bulb approx 5 days ago 
and everything operated normally.


If I remove the lower engine cover will I be able to release the hood 
from below?  I don't recall seeing the latch last time I was under the 
front end.


If all my efforts fail, would this be a job for a Indy or should I bite 
the bullet and take it to a dealer?


Thanks -
Larry
91 300D
78 240d
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Re: [MBZ] I smoked a lot of crack followed by crystal meth

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I'm seeing someone who paid $20k for it and then found how much it would 
cost to have someone fix a few things  the A/C that doesn't work  
Other than that a real cream puff -  worth maybe a third of 20k - Big maybe!

LOL
LarryT
91 300D

On 7/10/2015 12:33 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:


1989 Mercedes Benz 560
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5115646564.html

via cPro Craigslist App
iOS: http://tinyurl.com/CL-iDevice
Android: http://tinyurl.com/CL-Android


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[MBZ] Sticker on Used MB

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I was browsing some used MBs and noticed a sticker in the door frame of 
a ML320 that read;

Steering Wheel -  06-2015
Instrument Panel - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Roof Frame ---
Right Roof frame --

I assume there are air bags in each location and each will need to be 
replaced at some point?  The sticker says they need to be replaced this 
month, correct?   Seems  like that would require a large price 
reduction.   Don't recall the year of the ML  but I think it was between 
2000 and 2005.  Is there a time frame when air bags need to be replace ?


Thanks
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Sticker on Used MB

[LarryT via Mercedes]

So the dates are when the Air Bags are supposed to be replaced? That 
must be pretty expensive --


Hmm I wonder how much of the mechanism is replaced?  Just the explosive 
mechanism or just the sensors?  Don't know what kind of explosives they 
use but from personal experience, I've seen bullets that were 
hand-loaded 35+ years ago still fire like new.  I doubt they use 
smokeless gun powder but it's probably similar chemicals involved (Perhaps).


Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D

On 7/2/2015 11:56 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I remember this being a big thing at one point where airbags were supposed to 
stop working and we were all going to die in horrible crashes.Last I heard it 
turns out that nobody really knows the effective lifespan of an airbag.
If you could use it as a negotiating tactic I'd say go for it. rel
-Curt
   From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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Cc: Dan Penoff d...@penoff.com
  Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2015 11:18 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sticker on Used MB

Based on being notified of an age extension on an older MB, I have to assume that there is an Use By date for air bags. I have seen similar stickers on my cars.  That being said, I've never heard of anyone ever replacing all of their air bags based on their age


Dan

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On Jul 2, 2015, at 11:09 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I was browsing some used MBs and noticed a sticker in the door frame of a ML320 
that read;
Steering Wheel -  06-2015
Instrument Panel - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Front Door - 06-2015
Right Front Door - 06-2015
Left Roof Frame ---
Right Roof frame --

I assume there are air bags in each location and each will need to be replaced 
at some point?  The sticker says they need to be replaced this month, correct?  
Seems  like that would require a large price reduction.  Don't recall the year 
of the ML  but I think it was between 2000 and 2005.  Is there a time frame 
when air bags need to be replace ?

Thanks
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Sticker on Used MB

[LarryT via Mercedes]

supposedly, the self test is the SRS light that comes on with the 
ignition indicates a good air bag.


Larry
91 300D

On 7/2/2015 7:21 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I thought that MB recently added ten years to the original ten years of air bag 
life?

I've got the original airbag from my '87 wagon.  I need a creative way to test 
it, if anyone has one (and no, I won't sit on it and detonate it, need a crash 
test dummy or some such).


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Re: [MBZ] Interesting Green W140

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I haven't pulled the trigger on any yet, but the Carfax Used Car Sales 
tool seems to be pretty well done.  Lots of ways to dial in the search 
and a lot of cars available BTW.   I like the guide that says if the 
prices are above or below the book price.


Does anyone now if the 94 to 99-ish E class wagons came with a diesel?   
If they did, I'm not having any luck finding them...


Thx
LarryT
91   300D

On 6/28/2015 9:30 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Experience with Craigslist has indicated just that - the bar is exceptionally 
low.

Dan

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On Jun 28, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:


but when somebody says it's one of the nicest around...

That, sir, is a _relative_ measure of quality!
Can be a pretty low bar to entry, in other words.

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

[LarryT via Mercedes]

You wrote:  the way things really are when it comes to guns.

and laws...

LarryT

On 6/15/2015 2:21 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

I was sitting in the Farmers Market Restaurant having lunch one day during the 1950s not long after New York 
had banned guns. It was the slow summer season for northbound loads of citrus and other crops, and a trucker 
sitting behind me was complaining. I need enough money for fuel to get back to New York, he said. 
The trucker he was talking to said something like: You can make $50 taking a footlocker full of guns to 
New York. I can give you a number to call if you're interested. I got up and left about 
then but never forgot that little lesson in the way things really are when it comes to guns.
Gerry

  LarryT wrote:

It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want everyone to be able 
to get guns so all the people around her/him might have one.  Then someone asks them 
What makes you think they don't have one already? It seems the snti-gun 
crowd believe a law will stop a criminal.  Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the 
books, the criminals still get guns when they want one!  They're called criminals 
for a reason.  The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a 
gun.   All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry!

LarryT


On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
be prepared.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

-
Max
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Wretched SEL

[LarryT via Mercedes]

you wrote:   I thought I was being good, throwing away old crap for a 
change! 


That is the surest way to guaranty you will need some minor part that 
would have been good and didn't need to be thrown away.  It's like 
washing your car and guaranteeing it will rain shortly...


I have 3 old wiring harness for my 66 MGB - it never fails that I'll 
need a piece of wire - and this way I am guaranteed to have the right 
color and end connectors.


But I know exactly what you mean about giving in and throwing something 
away...


LarryT

On 6/11/2015 10:12 AM, Jim Cathey via Mercedes wrote:

Having finally had enough, I caved and took the car in
for a professional diagnosis.  The fuel system tested OK,
and there _are_ vacuum leaks that will have to be dealt
with.  The most amusing result was that one of my _new_
Beru spark plug wires was open-circuit.  (Though I believe
it was a short gap that would fire anyway, a bit.  The plug
was not any different-looking than the rest.)

I speculated, and cut open the plug end.  The 1K resistor
was open-circuit.  I bridged it with a piece of iron wire,
and taped it back together.  What a rickety POS now.  Still,
the car was running better yesterday after this operation,
more time will tell.  No way it'll hold up very long.

So, where do I get _one_ screw-on (machine screw threads,
not wood screw) Beru spark plug connector?  Or, barring
that, _one_ new Beru spark plug wire?  Really don't want
to part with the cash to get another entire set.

I have some old Bosch connectors, but they're all wood-screw.

(Hmm, I wonder if the Beru has a machine-screw end that I
can see, but that _that_ bit has a wood screw that screws
into the wire itself?  Still, it's working now.  I'd hate
to take it apart again and make it worse, just trying to
find out that detail.)

-- Jim


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Re: [MBZ] American policy

[LarryT via Mercedes]

if we were to start putting $$s into defense again (and the liberals 
would squeal) and keep ISIS etc., busy fighting each other if we just 
stirred them up against each other, we could improve our economy all 
around.  But instead we try to be nice so the bad guys will like us. LOL 
- that'll never happen cause they want us dead! They're not going to 
play nice with us.  Not sure I'd advocate using nukes because the 
prevailing winds tend to move the clouds all over the place.


I wonder if the end of The longest Day' verbiage was accurate when they 
had Patton saying we should go ahead and kick the Russians butt since 
we'd have to do so eventually  we- might as well do it when we had the 
resources in the area...


So many could have, should have, would haves, but we'll never know.

LarryT
91 300D

On 6/14/2015 2:43 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

The thing that made the Cold War work for both sides, what the element of
mutually assured distruction .. Simply put.. if either side started, both
sides had enough nukes and the means to deliver them that all life would
have been deleted from the face of the earth.

So.. bravado aside.. Gen LeMay knew he wasn't going to get that order.. and
his Russian counterpart knew it as well.. but both had to take the sabers
out and rattle them regularly to keep the military / Industrial Complex
fully employed.

Regan made a gutsy and brilliant move with his star wars plan, It drove
the Russians to bankruptsy trying to out guess [and steal] technology that
did not actually exist, but was close enough to almost there to make them
believe USA was capable of neutralizing any of their weapons delivery,
which tipped the balance that had been in place for decades..

However.. now we are headed down the same road to snatch defeat from the
jaws of victory, through gross financial mismanagement.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2015 at 10:32 AM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


When the U.S. was flying nuclear bombs to the borders of the USSR and then
turning back at the last minute during the late '40s, General Curt LeMay
said we should keep right on going to Russian targets and nuke the
communists back to the stone age.
I wonder what the world would be like nowadays if someone had given that
command?
Gerry

Rich Thomas wrote:

I say we take off an nuke the whole site from orbit.  It's the only way

to be sure.


On 6/13/15 7:28 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes wrote:

America won the Cold War in large part because the Russians knew

that American avionics would give NATO control of the air in any
prospective war; that the Pershing missiles in Germany and Italy gave NATO
an advantage in any prospective nuclear exchange; and that the Reagan
Strategic Defense Initiative portended a new range of technologies that
Russia couldn’t match. China looked on from a distance and aligned itself
with the dominant technological superpower.

If America wants to command China’s respect, it has to widen the

technology gap, rather than watch it shrink. If China believed that its
weapons systems were ineffective against American countermeasures, it would
show far more caution. But the opposite is true: the technology gap is
closing, and China knows it. America still has a technological lead and the
resources to widen it–should it choose to do so. There is no obvious
political constituency for such an effort though, and no prominent leader
commited to doing so. A return to the Eisenhower-Kennedy-Reagan commitment
to American technological superiority would also have enormously beneficial
effects for America’s lagging productivity. But it is hard to persuade
Americans that it is better to be tough than to sound tough.

Asia Times

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Re: [MBZ] OT Anti-gun crowd kills another woman in NJ

[LarryT via Mercedes]

It always makes me LOL when the anti-gunners say they don't want 
everyone to be able to get guns so all the people around her/him might 
have one.  Then someone asks them What makes you think they don't have 
one already? It seems the snti-gun crowd believe a law will stop a 
criminal.  Even with over 22,000 gun laws on the books, the criminals 
still get guns when they want one!  They're called criminals for a 
reason.  The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy 
with a gun.   All those restrictive orders just seem to make the ex's angry!


LarryT

On 6/10/2015 2:15 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

How did violent Ex obtain a gun legally?

On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 2:12 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


She was trying to follow the law, waiting for approval for her permit to
own a gun (about 65 days it looks like) when her violent ex killed her.

Ladies please don't let something so stupid happen to you.  Restraining
orders don't work, police can't protect you, you've got to take action and
be prepared.


http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/06/10/no-one-helped-her-nj-woman-murdered-by-ex-while-waiting-for-gun-permit/

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[MBZ] List Disabled

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Once again, I have been disabled.  It is happening almost daily now.  
This is getting old.  I didn't have a problem when I was being dropped 
monthly, but daily is a little too much to  expect, me thinks...


Can someone fix this?

Thx
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT another sort of metal working question

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Ya'll probably know this but when working with lead - melting it, etc - 
be very careful of the fumes - they are toxic and can cause liver and 
other damage...


LarryT
91 300D

On 6/5/2015 11:32 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:

JB Weld was my thought as well - but use it instead of the lead, not to
seal the end before pouring lead.

On Fri, Jun 5, 2015 at 5:43 PM, Dimitri via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


Jb weld?






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[MBZ] Was Rear Subframe - Aging - Fwd: Fwd: Random thoughts

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Since we're on the subject I'd like to share something a friend sent me 
recently.


enjoy -
LarryT
91 300D











   */Random thoughts as we age: /*
   The biggest lie I tell myself is . . . I don't need to write that
   down, I'll remember it.

   Wouldn't it be great if we could put ourselves in the dryer for ten
   minutes and come out wrinkle-free and three sizes smaller!

   Last year I joined a support group for procrastinators. We haven't
   met yet!

   I don't trip over things, I do random gravity checks!

   I don't need anger management. What I need is for people to stop
   pissing me off!

   I don't know about you but for me old age is coming at a really bad
   time!

   Lord grant me the strength to accept the things I cannot change, the
   courage to change the things I can and the friends to post my bail
   when I finally snap!

   I don't  have gray hair. I have wisdom highlights.. I'm
   just very wise.
   Teach your daughter how to shoot, because a restraining order is
   just a piece of paper!

   If God wanted me to touch my toes, he would've put them on my knees.

   The kids  text me plz which is shorter than please.  I text back
   no.which is shorter than yes.

   I'm going to retire and live off of my savings. Not sure  what I'll
   do that second week.

   Exactly when did it change from We the people to screw the
   people ???

   Even duct tape can't fix stupid  but it can muffle the sound!

   Why do I have to press one for English when you're just gonna
   transfer me to someone I can't understand anyway?

   Of course I talk to myself, sometimes I need expert advice!

   Oops! Did I roll my eyes out loud?

   At my age Getting lucky means walking into a room and remembering
   what I came in there for.

   And, of course… Have I sent this to you already or did you send this
   to me?















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Re: [MBZ] Workshop Manual Score?

[LarryT via Mercedes]

if the transmission books are there you can make as much as $100 or more 
on them.


To get a value of these things tryhttp://www.autolit.com/  who sell 
all manner of auto literature.


BTW, I also have a full set of Microfische - has al the great old cars - 
108, 109, 111, 113 600 (forgot the chassis #) etc.


Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D

On 5/17/2015 12:55 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like I may have scored a pile of workshop manuals.  I’m wondering if 
these are worth anything, possibly on eBay?

CB for 300#T 1979, W116 1978 and Passenger cars 1973

4 - ETM Binders for 1998 models 202 (and others)

3 - SMS Systems Management binders w/electrical. engine/drivetrain and chassis

Full set of microfiche from 1959 through 2001
Binder for Injection Systems, Diesel and CIS
Binder for 722.xxx transmissions

Guy wants around $125 for the whole pile.  I’m wondering if any of these have 
value, as I would probably keep some myself and sell off the rest.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Way OT and mind blowing revelation about panda digestion!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hmmm.. perhaps the Pandas will decide it's time to add meat to 
their diet.  as i understand  it, there's a lot of little Chinese folks 
running around in the Panda neighborhood. They might be the ones 
needing to worry


LarryT
91 300D

On 5/20/2015 2:14 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

A new study of panda waste brings bad news for the endangered species:
Their stomach microbes don't match their diet.

Though pandas have been eating bamboo for at least 7 million years, with
the plant being the bear's sole source of food for the past 2 million
years, it turns out the microbes in their guts are meant to digest meat.

The findings of the genetic analysis of 121 samples of panda feces
published in the journal*mBio* may put [pandas] at high risk of
extinction, the authors wrote.

Scientists have long been wondering about pandas' evolution because their
stomachs are not as long as other herbivores. Longer guts allow animals
more time to break down tough plant parts.

The researchers hypothesized that pandas would have developed special
bamboo-optimized microbes to help them break down plants faster, but, as
their study shows, that is not the case.

Instead, the study found, pandas are living a highly fragile lifestyle by
relying so much on bamboo (Karen Kaplan, *Los Angeles Times*
http://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-giant-panda-bamboo-meat-20150519-story.html,
May 19). *-- AW*
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Re: [MBZ] Free Parts - W124

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Dan -
i'm probably too lte but is the stereo still around?  If so, how much to 
ship to 23831?

A photo of the face would be nice but it's probably gone anyway. ;-)

Thanks!
LarryT

On 5/25/2015 8:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I have the following W124 parts for the taking.  Recipient covers shipping 
costs.


Mann H2014 transmission filter

201 492 0116 exhaust hanger  
http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1080035ukey_product=7648726

305 233 929 (Bosch number) passenger side front corner/turn signal assembly, 
yellow.  I believe it corresponds to a 124 826 01 43 in Mercedes

Becker BE1432 Grand Prix radio, condition unknown

Stereo install kit for W124 with four pin power plug and speaker connector 
pigtails

If you want pictures let me know.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Free Parts - W124

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Sorry - I see all is gone.

Thx anyway -
Larry

On 5/25/2015 8:02 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I have the following W124 parts for the taking.  Recipient covers shipping 
costs.


Mann H2014 transmission filter

201 492 0116 exhaust hanger  
http://www.mbpartsworld.com/showAssembly.aspx?ukey_assembly=1080035ukey_product=7648726

305 233 929 (Bosch number) passenger side front corner/turn signal assembly, 
yellow.  I believe it corresponds to a 124 826 01 43 in Mercedes

Becker BE1432 Grand Prix radio, condition unknown

Stereo install kit for W124 with four pin power plug and speaker connector 
pigtails

If you want pictures let me know.

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Several Barn Finds in NJ

[LarryT via Mercedes]

you might want to tell the sellers there is no such thing as a 1958 
MG-TD.  It is definitely a TD, but in 1958 MG was selling MGA's. The TD 
started around 1950 and ended around 1954 - I say around because there 
were no hard rules for determining the model year of a vehicle.  My 66 
MGB was built in 66 but was registered as a 67 because that's when it 
left the dealers lot.   Things were standardized in 1968.


Anyway tell them I'll help with their MG research if needed.

Larryt

On 5/21/2015 8:51 PM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

Hi Guys,
I've been helping a guy up here in NJ who was hired to liquidate an estate
that includes several Mercedes.  A W110, W111, and a bunch of W126s.  The
best of the bunch is a 85 300SD with 121,000 miles.  They've all been
sitting for several years and will need some significant cleaning and
maintenance.  Some are better as parts cars.

Details are here:
http://powerportalproducts.com/products/barn-finds-2/

Its best to use the contacts on the site if you're interested in any cars,
but I can answer questions about them since I've laid hands and eyes on
them, and even got a few started.

Jaime




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Re: [MBZ] 109

[LarryT via Mercedes]

It's on jackstands - probably to hide the collapsed air bags in the 
suspension.   IIRC that's around $1000 per corner to fix.  But that 
would be a stunner when repaired and painted!  I'm thinking Astral 
Silver would do it justice.  Wonder what condition the engine is in.  
That could be a real money pit.  Even the parts costs would be 
significant IMO.  It doesn't say but I believe many (all?) 300SELs were 
supplied with the mighty 6.3L?


I'm a sucker for those old cars - love the 108, 109, 111's.

Larry

On 5/26/2015 10:52 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

1969 Mercedes Benz 300 sel
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/5043713776.html




One of the few gassers I might put up with!  The 4 door 300SL!

One of the best looking MBs ever!  Better looking than a 108! modern 
enough, but no electronics.


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Re: [MBZ] Droolworthy W108 280SE 4.5 in GREEN

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I owned a identical SE except mine was dark green - man, I loved that 
car - still love the W108 design and the build quality was what made MB 
famous in my opinion.   The 4.5 was a great engine but i couldn't handle 
the 14-15mpg on a good day along with the high cost of replacement 
parts.   But if i could afford another I'd buy one in a second.  current 
bid for this one is $6100 - well worth that considering the rapidly 
escalating cost of collector cost...


LarryT
78 240D
91 300D

On 5/20/2015 1:29 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

I wonder - is this thistle green?  The cognac interior looks new.

The only obvious issue is the scraped paint above the front fender, on
either side of the aux. fan, seen with the hood open.  WTF?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-200-Series-280-SEL/301636619038?_trksid=p2045573.c100034.m2102_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131003150253%26meid%3Dba32d8628480461b83809f106902a5fe%26pid%3D100034%26rk%3D2%26rkt%3D8%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D371326989381
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[MBZ] W123 Lower alternator bolt Size?

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang,
I was hoping someone will have the diameter and length of the 
Subject bolt please ?  I'm embarrassed tp say it fell out ;-)


Thx (now I'll check the archives)

LarryT
78 240D
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] Door Check Fail

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Ha!  Like little Easter eggs waiting to be discovered!

;-)
LarryT

On 4/7/2015 9:13 PM, Meade Dillon wrote:

somewhere I've probably got hundreds of dollars of new parts,
hidden around the garage,


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Re: [MBZ] Battery Maintainers

[LarryT via Mercedes]

My '74 911 got a new Optima battery in Mar 99 shortly after I bought 
it.  From day 1 I kept a Battery Tender like this one

 
(http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Battery-Tender-12V-Maintainer-Trickle-Charger-12-Volt-Junior-021-0123-/321746137390?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4ae990712e)
 that I bought on ebay for around $40 delivered (the one above is 
$25).   That battery lasted 13 years 7 i could have used it longer but I 
feared getting left somewhere if the battery died and kept me from 
getting home.  Before this, I had never seen a 12V Batttery last more 
than 6 years so I  was very impressed by the performance!


BTW, the Battery Tender brand is very robust and well made.

YMMV -
LarryT
91 300D

On 5/11/2015 11:59 PM, Craig via Mercedes wrote:

Does anyone have experience with the battery maintainers which are
supposed to keep a battery in good condition during prolonged storage?

I was using a small one I got from my father's estate to keep the battery
for the '94 E320 charged, but when Kaleb came to get the car, we found
the battery was dead. I don't know if he ever resurrected it.

I got a flyer from NAPA and they have a number of larger, more expensive
chargers/maintainers, which, hopefully, might do a better job. But I want
to investigate before I plunk down my cash.


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Synthetic Diesel!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

A,  the reality of economics.  Something sadly missing in the world 
of politics when it comes to..  well, everything! Unfortunately, 
knowledge of economics seems to never be taught in our public 
schools.Of course it's not a sexy subject so students are hard to 
engage.  But it's kind of like gravity - always there in the background 
working  there's nothing you can do to stop it


LarryT

On 4/29/2015 12:32 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Becuase it's expensive!

On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 11:53 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


It is possible to make hydrogen for fuel and oxygen to burn it out of a
tankfull of water.  This can be a direct replacement for gasoline. However
the powers that be can't figure out how to tax and regulate it, so if you
persist in doing it, you won't live long.

It has been known for at least 70 years how to make synthetic Diesel and
gasoline out of coal, and it is a clean process.  However, nobody is doing
it.  It is very high quality fuel with Cetane higher than dino diesel.


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Re: [MBZ] Mowers For Kaleb

[LarryT via Mercedes]

also, when buying any more - new or used - try to get one with an 
aluminum deck.  The steel decks will wear out long before the BS engine 
does.


LarryT
91 300D

On 4/24/2015 8:30 AM, rogerhga--- via Mercedes wrote:

Kaleb,
   Buy a used mower, forget about impressing list members with a new one.  I 
haven't purchased a new mower since the late 70s.  I currently have three BS 
mowers, two are close to 20 years old and still going strong and one is about 10 
years old.  So maybe the newer ones are bad, but not the old ones.  Remember the 
rules:  change oil and filters, only use straight 30w oil, walk where you're going 
to mow before you mow to remove any obstructions and lastly remember your 
particular mower's limits...as in don't try to do bush hogging with a mower that 
can't handle it.
   So, good luck and as I always advise, in the end make your own choices, 
you'll be happier with the good ones and have no one but yourself to blame for 
any bad ones.
Best Wishes,
Roger
Roger Hale
Dinnerware Classics, Inc.
Monroe, Ga.
770-267-0850
www.dinnerwareclassics.com  (new)
www.southernnightsantiques.com  (antique)

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[MBZ] Mailing List membership disabled

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Now I'm getting notices _/daily/_!

LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Live guns banned at NRA Convention

[LarryT]

Well put Grant  Max!

The range I am a member of is an Isaac Walton facility.  It does more 
for conservation than most other conservationist.   They also bring 
paralyzed residents of the local VA Hospital and allow them to enjoy a 
day shooting skeet or target shooting.  we also bring young people in 
and provide safety  acclimatization classes before letting them shoot 
.22s  other firearms.


also, Max's comment about Andrew never posting anything so amazingly 
compelling that someone who believes in the Constitution  will change 
their view is so completely true  it could not have been better put.


BTW, the NRA is a Civil Rights organization first established in 1871 in 
part to fight the many laws passed by democratic politicians following 
the civil war  designed  to keep African Americans from legally owning 
firearms.


LarryT
91 300D

On 4/9/2015 2:23 PM, Curly McLain wrote:

Andrew,


What Grant said.  You don't even actually have to touch a gun, so you 
can keep your hoplopobia intact.  Just sitting in on the classroom 
would be enlightening.  I am not an instructor, and the only formal 
training I've had was at summer camp.  I used to be pretty good with 
the camp 22s on the range.


If you like conservation too, then you might see if there is an Isaac 
Walton near you.  They do all kinds of conservation projects and most 
sponsor safe gun handling instruction.  Many have a rifle range or a 
trap or skeet range.  In my teens, I really enjoyed trap shooting. 
You'd probably like it if not for the hoplopobia.




Yet again, I feel I must speak in response to your latest posting.

First: The article is in error because of it's hoplopobic reporting 
focus.
Apparently, you are drawn to that, which is your right, just as it is 
mine

to point it out.

Second: It seems now likely both yourself and the writer of the posted
article are not aware of the standard practice at ALL gun shows that
requires the checking of ALL weapons and then securing them with a 
safety

tie wrap through the firing mechanism UPON ENTRY to the gun show. NRA is
simply a HUGE GUN SHOW... This is simply standard safety practice 
used at

ALL gun shows to ensure against unintended discharge of any weapon.

Third: This practice is a STANDARD SAFETY PRACTICE when entering and
exiting any shooting range I have ever attended. ALL weapons are 
cleared of

bullets in the barrel, and ALL magazines or cylinders are emptied BEFORE
leaving the line of fire, while the barrel is pointed DOWN RANGE.. 
Simple
and primary gun safety practiced by RESPONSIBLE GUN OWNERS as a 
universal

practice.

Fourth: The writer attempts to make this standard safety practice a
platform for hoplophobic social engineering under the guise of gun
control.. This is an insult to anyone who understands and practices
standard gun safety. Thus, wrong.

Fifth: I invite you to satisfy your fascination with all things gun by
making contact with a certified firearms instructor and taking an
introductory course where such basics are covered as gun handling, gun
safety, and very basic shooting skills introduction. I sincerely believe
you would come to understand more about the real facts of ownership and
responsibility that comes with ownership of a firearm.

I am a certified firearms instructor myself and over the years have 
often
come in contact with people who only saw a gun on TV or the movies, 
being

used most improperly and often illegally. These perceptions have become
ingrained in the minds of many, unfortunately. I urge you to expose
yourself to the facts on gun safety and use.

There is a group called USCCA which, if you contact them, will steer 
you to
one of their certified instructors, in your local area, which you may 
find

helpful and educational.

You are a smart man.. the decision is yours, I only suggest.

Respectfully,

Grant...

On Thu, Apr 9, 2015 at 5:10 AM, Mitch Haley mi...@mitchellhaley.com 
wrote:



 http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2015/04/firearmconcierge/
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[MBZ] AC in 2004 320

[LarryT]

Hello -
I came across a 320 wagon (wish it was diesel) which the seller 
said has a AC problem.   Are these MB's likely to have problems with the 
evaporator?   I assume it is buried deep in the dash like my W124?  that 
would be a good negotiating point -- and since I have done it twice 
before on a 124 I am confident I can do it myself.


Thanks -
Larry
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Re: [MBZ] Parts

[LarryT]

re Gary - ditto -- he's always been helpful and courteous

LarryT

On 4/6/2015 10:13 PM, Michael Esh wrote:

I have never been abused or insulted by Gary and he has always offered me a 
fair price and delivered excellent service.
Michael E. Esh
231 286 2344



On Apr 6, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Randy Bennell rbenn...@bennell.ca wrote:

And free insults.
His attitude truly leaves me wondering if I can trust him, and thus, I have not 
done business with him.
I miss Rusty.

RB


On 06/04/2015 4:27 PM, Michael Esh wrote:
Gary makes sure I get a good quality part at a fair price. Many times with free 
shipping.

Michael E. Esh



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Re: [MBZ] ADMIN: Bounces

[LarryT]

Yep - It's been happening for  few weeks now.   I assumed it was 
becoming SOP.  ;-)  OTOH, it is very easy to become re-instated - click 
the link, confirm and done.  For a day or 2 at least.


LarryT

On 4/5/2015 8:57 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:

Looks like Comcast is bouncing mail from Okiebenz for some reason.  I’ve 
alerted Kaleb, but be aware that if you use Comcast as an ISP your mail form 
the list may be spotty or sporadic.

Dan
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[MBZ] M1 ATF

[LarryT]

Has anyone found M1 ATF for less than $9.99/qt anywhere?   That seems to 
be the standard price - (can anyone say conspiracy?)  ;-)


Thx
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Ted Cruz?

[LarryT]

very well put

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On 3/24/2015 11:24 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Somewhere, in the last 239 years, we as a country shifted from being a
Constitutional Republic to acting like a Democracy.

The best description of a Democracy I've heard is: Two wolves and One sheep
voting on what to eat for dinner.

The best description of a Republic I've heard is: One well armed sheep
inviting the Two wolves to eat all the grass they want for dinner.

Somehow, along the way our elected representatives stop asking the question
What is best for America and started asking only the question What can I
do to get re-elected. Regardless of the political party, the current lot
in office have failed to do the job they were elected to do and the
Citizens, regardless of party, are, for the most part, aware of that
failure.

If we are lucky, we can fix it at the ballot box. If we are not lucky, it
will come to the fox hole.

If the ship of state were an airliner, it would be off course and entering
an uncontrolled decent. Immediate corrective action would be required, if
we wanted to live.

Respectfully,

Grant...

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 7:43 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


  As George Washington pointed out, we shouldn't have parties because we
can already see what happens when we do.

People tend to divide themselves based on the parties, rather than based
on the issues. Many aren't actually listening to what is being said, they
are too busy trying to push everyone into a particular little square on the
ballot.

We can't get anywhere because people (including the politicians
themselves) are too busy naming the other side as their enemy to actually
get things done. They're playing politics like it's a game, one that they
have to win, and not actually thinking about the reality or consequences of
their actions.
Gerry
..

Curly McLain wrote:


Who thinks there will be a  third party candidate this time around?

Get Jokin Joe (Biteme) to run as the 3rd party.  He'd probably get
more votes than  the queen of arKansas!

He could run as a 1901 Progressive!

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Re: [MBZ] 124 camber

[LarryT via Mercedes]

FYI, I have new Bilsteins at all 4 corners - they made a huge difference 
in the stance of the car!  Before it was 1/2 lower on the passenger 
side but the new shocks corrected that.  If you think all shocks are the 
same, compare a Bilstein to a Monroe!  The shaft on the Monroe is approx 
5/8 dia  while the Bilsteins are 1 or more.  These shocks are 
definitely worth the money!

The improvement will surprise you --

LarryT
91 300D

On 3/20/2015 8:00 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
I put in new shims the last time the links were replaced, along with 
the subframe bushings, LCAs and shocks.   I could try thicker shims.


I've replaced springs before, to no avail.  They don't get sprung. 
they do crack on occasion.



Spring pads can and will compress over time. I'm getting ready to 
replace the pads on the 95 S500, as it sits a bit low in the back 
based both on visual and measured height.


On point to note: MB can't tell you what spring pad is on your car, 
as they are fit during production based on the height. They can tell 
you what spring is on it, but you have to visually inspect the pad or 
shim as they call it by looking at it in place and counting the 
burls that stick out.


The burls are little nubs or pins of rubber molded into the side of 
the shim and are usually visible by just looking at the shim from 
below. I believe the number of burls range from one to five.


The number of burls correspond to the different shim thicknesses, 
which your parts supplier can identify when you tell them how many 
yours has.


In my case I was all ready to replace the rear springs, but I'm going 
to do the shims first and see how that goes.


Dan

Sent from my iPad

 On Mar 20, 2015, at 7:13 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


 I think the next step is replacing the rear springs and making sure 
the
 spring pads are correct.  You may have to go to a thicker spring 
pad.  Is

 all the mounting hardware at the top of the shock absorbers correct?

 Is there a kit to replace one of the bushings/links to provide a 
camber

 adjustment?  Dave M. would know the answer there.  I think I recall
 something about the Sportline suspension including such a kit.


  -Max


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[MBZ] Radio Shack Stores Closing

[LarryT via Mercedes]

FYI -- I was out Saturday and learned that many/most Radio Shack stores 
will be closing as soon as inventory is sold.  Store fixtures are also 
being sold.


I know some of ya';ll like electronic projects -- now is the time to 
pick up bits  pieces --   But it's going fast --


Good luck -
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] OT: MS

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I'm still using Office 97!   It has all the features i need/use and I 
can find them all.  It must be frustrating to spend whatever they're 
charging at the moment for software that does basically the same thing - 
if you can find the right button!


I feel your pain!;-)

LarryT

On 3/5/2015 5:20 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

Microsoft's support policy forced me to upgrade from Office 2003 to 2013.
I was pretty handy with several older versions but I find working with 2013
a bit like playing  Where's Waldo.  I know the needed feature must be
there somewhere but finding the icon can be a real chore.  Fortunately,
right-click still works for many things.  So far (a year) I haven't found
any useful improvements over 2003.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Parental Control Hardware

[LarryT via Mercedes]

My NetGear has Parental controls also.   Like you, our kids are also 
gone so I don't use the parental controls but I know they're there.


When I 1st saw your email and came to Parental Controls' my 1st thought 
was you were dealing with some unruly parents! ;-)


So far my netGear N450  has been perfect - but you may want the N600  model.

Good luck -
LarryT
91 300D



On 3/5/2015 4:49 PM, Scott Ritchey via Mercedes wrote:

I'm looking for advice on parental control hardware (router or inline box)
for Wi-Fi at out church.  My kids left home before the advent of the
internet so I never had to deal with this.  Our church decided to install
internet service at the church, including Wi-Fi.  There are several benefits
to this but I'm concerned about inappropriate use, particularly by the young
folks.  A little Google searching turned up SkyDog (no longer available),
BUC Tools box or router (looks promising),  iBoss router, and several
Linksys routers that have parental controls.

Having zero first-hand experience (and knowing the vast and deep pool of
arcane expertise available on this list) I thought I'd solicit experience or
expertise on this subject.  Thanks.

Scott

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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[LarryT via Mercedes]

You are correct.  Sun Valley said to use Dexron.  I figured they should 
know what works and what doesn't.  I have changed it at 25K intervals as 
Sun Valley said that was  needed to keep the warranty in place.


The warranty expired  about 4 months before the shifting problem 
started.   Naturally. ;-\


I added Zmax but after ~1200 miles the shifting has  not improved.

I have another 3000 miles before I get to the 25K change interval - at 
that time I'll go to full synthetic ATF.   we'll see if that helps -


Sorry about the delay in responding --
Larry
91 300D

On 12/5/2014 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You've tried changing the fluid? Using Mobil 1? I seem to remember 
your saying the rebuilder had told you not to use Mobil 1 which seems 
strange to me since so many of us (myself included) have had excellent 
luck with it.


If it occasionally works I'd guess varnish in the valves. IIRC you 
don't drive a whole bunch. Assuming thats true and assuming you're not 
using Mobil 1 thats the first thing I'd do, then go out and drive the 
stink out of it. Maybe some of the magic elixer somebody else 
mentioned. I know you don't believe in better living through chemistry 
but if the problem is really a sticky valve and not a component 
failure chemistry is the way to go...


-Curt


*From:* LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
*To:* Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
*Sent:* Friday, December 5, 2014 3:32 PM
*Subject:* [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

Hello --
About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s.  It was
fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it
stopped engaging 1st.  it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't.  The
kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift.

I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of
suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for
4-3 but not for 2-1.

It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think
of what might be the problem.  Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a
bad solenoid or something?

any ideas?

Thx
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT Global warming (aka climate change), linked to frigid winter

[LarryT via Mercedes]

India is very similar as China when it comes to pollution.   but both 
refuse to engage in limiting activity -


*But if this Global Warming gets any worse, I'm going to freeze to death!!*

LarryT
91 300D

On 2/24/2015 10:06 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Having traveled to China in the past two year, I can say without hesitation
it is one of the most polluted places ever on the face of the earth.

We in America pay through the nose to have our cars inspected each year,
and through the nose for ever tighter EPA regulations, while the cloud of
pollution that hovers over China drifts into the weather patterns of the
Pacific, which feed the weather patterns of the US Continent, due to earths
direction of rotation.

Add to China, all the other pollution from countries on the Pacific rim and
everything we pay for and are charged here becomes worthless. Unless you
have been there and walked the streets, it's really not possible to grasp
the magnitude of pollution being produced there.

All those companies that were fined and punished by the EPA over the past
25 years are now operating there, with no EPA to contend with.. or labor
laws.. AND.. you can buy a public official in China.. Paradise surely..

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 6:48 PM, archer75--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Even if the global warmers are correct, and the solution is a massive
worldwide decline in the use of fossil fuels; how is anyone going to stop
China and 100+ nations from using fossil fuels and/or stopping practices
that increase CO2?
Is China going to stop using coal, a major source of pollution that runs
nearly everything in their country? Improving the situation is impossible
unless one is thinking of building enough solar and nuclear plants over the
long time interval that would be required.
When Americans talk to the leaders of other polluting countries about
doing something now, their answer is: Give us the money to do it and
we'll do it. It will be an impossible task irregardless of whether the
global warmers are right or wrong.
Gerry

OK Don via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


R-12 has nothing to do with global warming. It destroys the ozone layer,
letting more of the harmful UV rays reach the surface. The hole over
Antarctica has closed significantly since the R-12 ban. I don't know that
there is a cause/effect relationship here, but the coincidence does seems
to lead us innocents to believe that there is. Mexico must not use much
R-12. I do have 10 -12 lbs  (in one bottle) of virgin R-12 if anyone

wants

to come get it for the market value (whatever that is). Shipping it

legally

is prohibitive.

I also would not have believed that human activity could cause

earthquakes

- what could a little water injected deep in the earth here and there do?
However, there does seem to be a direct correlation between the deep
injection wells (for fracking fluids/waste water) and the huge number of
earthquakes that we are experiencing in OK now. Based on this, I am not
willing to rule out the possibility of human causes of climate
change/global warming. I my self am contributing a fair amount of CO2 to
the air, and releasing it higher in the atmosphere than most of you.

Global Warming means just that - GLOBAL - not local. Watch the cycles

of

the jet stream, etc. and you can see why some areas are cooler than they
used to be while the planet as a whole is getting warmer. OK has been
overall warmer the last few years, mostly due to warmer winters than

usual.



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NSA: The only branch of government that actually listens to US citizens!

*“Travel is fatal to prejudice, bigotry and narrow-mindedness, and many

of

our people need it sorely on these accounts.”* – Mark Twain

There are three kinds of men: The ones that learns by reading. The few

who

learn by observation. The rest of them have to pee on the electric fence
for themselves.

WILL ROGERS, *The Manly Wisdom of Will Rogers*
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Re: [MBZ] '95 E320 transmission fluid

[LarryT via Mercedes]

You'd get a lot of use from a MB Technical Manual - it lists all the 
models, engines, trannys, torques,  and much more - it's only about 
5x8 but it's almost 1 thick and has everything you'd ever want to know -


The official title is/Technical Data Passenger Cars/ - I think I 
ordered it direct from MBNA - you'll be amazed at the amount of info in 
it


Give me your chassis/VIN # and I'll give you the type of trans without a 
doubt - unless it's been swapped out ;-)


LarryT
91 300D
78 240D


On 2/24/2015 11:06 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:

It's either 722.3 or .4, I'm pretty sure it's .3

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 24, 2015, at 9:47 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I have been looking through the information about transmissions I have
gleaned from the list over the years and have found a spec sheet listing
(BB00.40-P-0231-01A) which lists what spec sheet (e.g., 236.14) is needed
for which model of transmission (e.g., 722.6).

I cannot, however, find out what model of transmission my car has.

Does anyone know where I can find that information?

Thanks,


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D more info

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Ditto - if the car is moving there is plenty of air flow through the 
radiator.  Like others mentioned, there's not much need for a large 
capacity of cooling at this time of year.  My 240D doesn't generate a 
lot of heat - not as much as the 300D T at least.


When my 300D overheated last summer (temp went into the red zone) I 
feared a head problem or a damaged  head gasket.  WHen I repaired the 
obvious problem (failed hose) I did a Oil Analysis test and it confirmed 
there was no water/coolant in the oil.  (phew!) so it appears I dodged a 
bullet.


An Oil analysis is a easy way to confirm the head gasket integrity.
Seems like you've been struggling with this for  a while.  Maybe to time 
to definitively to eliminate a potential problem?


LarryT
300D
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On 2/18/2015 4:39 PM, Max Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

I'm also skeptical.  I removed the fan from the OM617.912 (normally aspirated 
five cylinder diesel) in my '85 wagon, ran all year round in SC with no 
problems unless I got stuck in stop-n-go traffic.  No AC on that car.


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Re: [MBZ] OT: Global none-warming. was: Where to dump the snow in Boston?

[LarryT via Mercedes]

even when I was in school (the 60s) I and  the others I went to school 
with were also taught with some educating thrown in. Personally, I never 
did well being told what to do.  If I could see the need for something 
or if the need was explained, I was an enthusiastic learner.  ;-)  But 
the biggest problem I saw was a lack of the educators/teachers failed to 
train us to be employed.  Never heard how to go about applying for a 
job, what the process was for getting hired, etc.
BTW, i'm also a huge proponent of technical/trade schools where people 
learn a craft they can use their whole life.  seems like that's 
denigrated by many people - or maybe that's just my perception?


LarryT
91 300D



On 2/17/2015 10:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
I learned at a rather late age that there is a difference between 
teaching and educating.  I had been taught for many years in the 
teaching system and did well.  When I was being educated it was 
quite a shock, though I guess I eventually benefited from it and did 
OK but it required considerable struggle.


I fear most chirruns are taught, and those who are educated will be 
the ones who lead, though some can make a transition despite the 
teaching system.  I think the parents are a big part of the key to 
being educated.  YMMV.


--R


On 2/16/15 11:48 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote:
There is no education system that can teach someone to think. Either 
they

will, or they won't. The education system can give those who are capable
the tools they need to not have to re-invent the wheel. The rest can 
only

be made to be (hopefully) functional enough to do what the thinkers want
them to do. It has been this way forever - it's the human condition.

On Mon, Feb 16, 2015 at 10:21 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

The goal of education is learning how to think.  Thinking requires 
facts
but education is not just learning facts.  Comments like this imply 
that

our education system isn't working.


Sadly, it has not been so for some decades.

The goal of the current ejamacashun sistem is to turn out good 
little borg

who follow orders from our brave leader.

It started with consolidation
Moved to centralized  financing
then to Federal control and manipulation
and so it goes...
around the bowl and down the hole








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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D update

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thanks Guys -
As always very helpful!

Larryt
78 240D
91 300D

On 2/11/2015 5:24 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

I agree, I don't think the AC has to get out of the way for the alternator. In 
fact I know I've had the alternator out of Dimitri's 240D without disturbing 
the AC, pulling the alt is pretty easy...
-Curt
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mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2015 5:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D update


I'm running into the difficulty you had when replacing the hose.  I
have to repair the teeth on the upper alternator housing - the part
that engages the toothed bolt.  The teeth in the alt bracket are
gone and I plan to repair them but to do that I'll need to remove
the York AC Compressor and probably the Alternator and bracket as
well.

I considered removing the compressor completely but it still has gas
in it after 3 years of not being used so it's a tight system.  But
we never use it so I may as well...

Good luck!
Larry
'78 240D
'91 300D

You should be able to unbolt the compressor with hoses attached from
the bracket, then tie it back.  That way you don't have to open a
good sealed system.

Also, my memory is not clear, but I'd look very carefully from
underneath.  I am pretty sure it is possible to remove the alt and
brackets from under the car.  It should be much easier than messing
with that dogawful bracket and disturbing a working york.



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Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D update

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I'm running into the difficulty you had when replacing the hose.  I have 
to repair the teeth on the upper alternator housing - the part that 
engages the toothed bolt.  The teeth in the alt bracket are gone and I 
plan to repair them but to do that I'll need to remove the York AC 
Compressor and probably the Alternator and bracket as well.


I considered removing the compressor completely but it still has gas in 
it after 3 years of not being used so it's a tight system.   But we 
never use it so I may as well...


Good luck!
Larry
'78 240D
'91 300D

On 2/11/2015 9:09 AM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes wrote:

So the new hose is not leaking. The car started with first turn of key and 
under ten seconds cranking time at 10 degrees this am. I might risk a trip to 
MA this week if it continues to behave.

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:30 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I didn't think to look. I kind of enjoy making the gaskets anyway:)

Sent from my iPhone


On Feb 10, 2015, at 10:11 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:

You should either have had the gasket or the gasket on there is only a year 
old. I did find a random gasket in the truck, maybe I forgot to give it to 
you...

-Curt
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To: Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com; Mercedes Discussion List 
mercedes@okiebenz.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2015 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Overheating 240D update

The problem is that the York AC compressor is in the way. The bracket had to be 
undone and slid over, the fan shroud, fan blade and wp pulley have to be 
removed, as well as air filter housing. I had to make a new thermostat housing 
gasket from gasket paper. I used the correct MB hose purchased at classic 
center.

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 10, 2015, at 8:53 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com 
wrote:


I replaced the short leaky hose under the thermostat housing today as I suspect 
it was causing an air bubble possibly leading to the overheating problem.
Wow what an ordeal! It took most of the day to replace that hose!
Time will tell if this solves the problem. In the meantime, the starter motor 
has bit the dust. Prior to a cold start, I have to whack the solenoid for it to 
engage.

Sent from my iPhone
__

Its not that bad, but it helps to have the official MB hose, and the gasket for 
the thermostat housing to the block.  (Or I used to seal it up again with 
whatever was left of the gasket and permatex blue silicon.)  Never had one leak 
after...

The trick is to start the hose on the WP, then slide in the the thermo housing, 
start it on that then shove it together.  Soap  on the inside of the hose, or 
WD40 helps too.  I don't think it ever took me more than an hour including 
putting the radiator hose back on and clamping everything down.

I could do it in a lot less than that if it was a contest.

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Re: [MBZ] OT fried receiver and sound y8anetu3

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I agree completely.  BTW, if anyone has ever had Chicken Pox the 
Shingles virus is in them...


I had Shingles in the early 70s - on my forehead over my eye - doc 
treated it quickly/aggressively to prevent damage to my eye. It hasn't 
come back but could at any time


I also think the illegal aliens are bringing disease in - especially 
those 10s of thousands of kids from all over who came across at out 
administrations suggestions -


LarryT
91 300D
On 2/11/2015 1:57 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Scott sez:  You bet.  Have you ever known anyone with shingles?  Not 
nice.  Even if it
doesn't totally prevent shingles, the shot greatly reduces the 
severity.  It
was pricey (maybe $300) then, maybe cheaper now.  Too many of today's 
kids
are too casual about innoculatioons because they have no actual 
experience

with some pretty horrible diseases.


I'd get the shingles vaccine.  But honestly, did you ever know of a 
kid who died from measles, chicken pox or mumps.?  I haven't.  I had 
chicken pox and measles pretty much back to back but didn't get mumps 
until adult.  It was a little itchy and a few welcomed days off from 
school.


The illegals are bringing in, among other diseases, TB and some pretty 
serious diseases.  I have a lot more concern about stopping illegals 
to keep out diseases, and getting shots for tb and polio, than I am 
concerned if kids don't get measles shots.


It has been awfully quiet about the origin of the kid who took measles 
to dizzyland.  The silence is deafening, so it seems reasonable to 
assume it was an illegal kid or kid of an illegal. Otherwise the media 
would be screaming about some teabagger who would not immunize their 
kid, even if the kid was the offspring of some hollywood type like 
susan saranwrap.



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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I grew up in Aiken - great little town - I was there from age 5 to 12 
and spent most of my time (exc for school) in the woods playing Army and 
Cowboy and Indians with my 2 best friends.  this was pre network - we 
didn't have a TV part of the time.  Rt 1 box 400H was the address ;-)   
I wonder if our house is still there?


LarryT
91 300D


On 2/2/2015 1:43 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes wrote:

Folks

I have come onto many interesting cars. When i was about 15 or 16 i bought a 
Renault 4CV (looks like a morris minor with suicide doors in the front) that 
was sitting behind a house in Aiken SC.

I got the title and the car showed only about 20,000 miles.

I paid $20. I STILL have the car in a garage here in Athens, GA. We managed to 
lose the engine along the way, but i do have a dauphene engine that fits it.

Another project. The car is complete less engine.

In about 1976 i bought a VW bug …. an old one, not a split window, but i think 
a 54 or 55. It ran and we drove it around a little and then parked it in a 
garage. It had a replacement engine that was a 36 hp rather than the original 
20 or whatever it was.

I kept it till about 1990 and sold it for $1000 which was good money in 1990.
thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] high school and college cars

[LarryT via Mercedes]

There's a guy who drives his 2CV to the gun range I am a member of.   
Last week it was cold out  (30s) and he arrived with a sheet of canvas 
covering 90% of the radiator opening - just like the big trucks.  ;-)


I haven't spoken to him in a long time and don't know how many miles he 
puts on it... but he drives it all the time.


At the end of WW2 Prof. Porsche was put into a French jail - I wonder if 
he provided some design assistance then?  It was introduced in 1948 -   
hmmm


LarryT
91 300D
On 2/2/2015 2:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Don't say such things. If I had some space I'd love to have a 2CV or 4CV.
I have in mind adding another bay onto my garage and expanding the little 
add-on on the back of the garage to full size which would allow me to move the 
snowmobiles under cover, have the lawnmower and plow over there and get a car 
into the bay for repairs and such.  The stock I have from my employer would 
nearly cover such a project right now but we also need a roof on the house and 
a furnace which I guess get precedence. Someday though...
-Curt
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  To: Andrew Strasfogel astrasfo...@gmail.com
Cc: Mercedes Discussion List Mercedes@okiebenz.com
  

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[MBZ] OT - Auctions (other than ebay)

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I saw a commercial for Dashdeal.com the other day and went to 
check it out.  Indeed their claims appear true - big screen TVs were 
being bought for for for $200-$300 or less.  Along with IPads, I Phones, 
Cameras, etc at similar savings.   But the trick here is the company 
behind the auction is making a fortune!  Each bid cost $0.60 and each 
bid is in $0.01 increments so a $200 winning bid has cost 2000 bids to 
get there!  2000 x $.60= $1200 - the auction company is raking the cash 
in!  They can buy a 50 TV for around $500 (probably less at wholesale) 
now so that $700 profit.


so it depends on how many bids an individual makes to know if they got a 
good deal or not.   Collectively they did not - but individually they 
_might _have.


Thought ya'll might enjoy that little tidbit of info ;-)

LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] A rare break (SDL)

[LarryT via Mercedes]

We have just the opposite kind of yard here - I bought a pair of seats 
for $12.50 to use in my 911 while my Porsche seats were recovered - _ALL 
_of their seats are $12.50 each regardless of vehicle.  They have 
various MBs once in a while, but mostly 123s, 124s  140s.  Trouble is 
they only keep them for 30 days then they go to the scrap yard!  They 
had a '91 300D identical to my wifes but before I had all i wanted it 
was gone.  Irritated me no end...  But once in a while I get lucky..


LarryT

On 1/25/2015 11:48 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
There are some cars in a junk yard near me, I pulled an interior out 
of one but I think there  for were a couple other 126s.  Problem is 
the guy thinks they are like new cars and wants ridiculous prices.  If 
someone had a PnP around that would be your best deal.


--R


On 1/25/15 11:17 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

A rare break in the weather yesterday.  50 and sunny!

I took advantage of the pleasant day to replace the Aux fan on the 
SDL heap and then I replaced the porcupine on the heater box, taking 
out the manual switch I installed in Nov to have some defrost.


Now the Heater works as designed.

the plug on the car wiring harness  pulled apart when I extracted the 
plug from the old fan.  It pulled out part of one contact. When 
spring comes, I will need to repair the plug, since the aux fan is 
not needed in the winter.   It may work as is, but I won't count on it.


It is good to know that for a temp fix in the winter to replace the 
porcupine, you can use a $5 switch in place of the $600 porcupine.


total cost: $50 for parts.

The old heap still  runs like a dream.

Earlier, I found the 30 amp flat fuse holder melted.  I bought a 
automotive plug-in fuse holder at FLAPS and connected it with wire 
nuts.   Not recommended for show cars, but for a heap, it works, and 
now the fuse is available anywhere.


Now I need a new seat spring.  Unfortunately, there don't seem to be 
any of these cars in junkyards near here.   There is a 300D 123 in  a 
yard 135 miles away.  I think that spring will work, but not 
positive, so I will probably keep looking for a 126 seat spring.


Curly

86 300SDL et al

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[MBZ] Rebate for Diesel Fuel

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I read an article yesterday about getting a cash rebate for the money 
spent yearly on diesel fuel.They require the receipt, lic # and some 
other data but every little bit helps!   i earned this about Va - don't 
know which other states offer a similar program but it's worth checking.


Here's a link to the Va program - maybe it will help you find your way 
to it in your state?


https://www.dmv.virginia.gov/commercial/taxact/diesel_refunds.html

Good Luck -
Sincerely,
LarryT
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Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Yeah, I've never been crazy about this design - there are so many much 
easier methods to adjust alts, Compressors, etc.   Speaking of 
compressors - I am considering removing this York - the AC has never 
worked properly and removing it will provide more room to work in the 
engine bay.


It's a 78 240D and it was in poor condition when I bought it.  I rebuilt 
the engine and it is running great but the tranny is starting to do 
strange things and the rust is really taking over in the rockers.I 
have considered sending it to the scrap yard but it starts every time i 
ask it and it's nice to have it around when I don't want to drive the 
911 and my wife has the 91 300D.


I am going in all kinds of directions on this and just can't decide.

Thx
larry


On 1/19/2015 10:44 AM, David Bruckmann via Mercedes wrote:

There's a reason they abandoned that design.

The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't understand that 
you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to adjust. That includes the 
clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. Once the desired tension is achieved, 
then tighten everything to hold it in place.

The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for tension and 
then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a functional rack and bolt.



On Jan 19, 2015, LarryT l02tur...@comcast.net wrote:

Unfortunately a bolt won't fix it - it's the star shaped slot the bolt
turns in.  My bolt is fairly new but the slot has very little for it to
grab.

Thanks -
LarryT
78 240D


On 1/19/2015 7:38 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Why bother with the Classic Center when you can order this part from any dealer?


110 150 04 73 - Clamping Bolt, Spannschraube $19.50


Dan

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Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I always released the upper and lower bolt but a PO did some damage 
that's hard to fix without replacing.


Thx for the comments --
Larry

On 1/19/2015 11:04 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

There's a reason they abandoned that design.

The bolt and the rack are vulnerable because many people don't 
understand that you start by LOOSENING EVERYTHING before trying to 
adjust. That includes the clamping bolt and the lower pivot bolt. 
Once the desired tension is achieved, then tighten everything to hold 
it in place.


The toothed bolt isn't completely vital. You can wedge the alt for 
tension and then clamp, but that's not quite as convenient as a 
functional rack and bolt.


Yup

On one of mine, the rack is chewed up and I adjust it with a breaker 
bar behind the alt to tension the belt while I try to tighten 
everything down.  The rack and pinion adjuster is elegant, but too 
many ham fisted clowns ruin them.


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Re: [MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

The few things I have bought from CC were no more than the dealer prices --

LarryT

On 1/19/2015 9:16 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I guess I just have a hard time wondering why people go to the Classic Center 
when the same parts are readily available from the dealership.  Granted, I have 
a really, really good dealer to work with, which I know is an exception to the 
norm…

I was of the impression that the Classic Center stuff is expensive.  Do they 
charge the same as the dealers?

Dan


  

On Jan 19, 2015, at 9:02 AM, dsereta...@yahoo.com wrote:

Because you talk with Tom Hanson who has a clue, is pleasant to deal with, and 
will get the part to your doorstep in 1-2 days.

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[MBZ] Alt up per bracket 78 240D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang -
When trying to adjust my alternator belt I found the upper bolt 
with the star around its collar was turning without adjusting the belt.


my lower bracket is ok but the upper has been chewed up.   Anyone know 
where I can find one?


Thx!
LarryT
78 240D


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Re: [MBZ] Another productive day in the garage

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Peter -
BTW, when you did the 300D rear shocks did you secure the springs?
When I did my 91 rear shocks I did /not /as I never saw a need to do so 
on the rear before.   When I looked over the WSM sheets they cautioned 
about securing the springs - I guess I got lucky as nothing happened.   
but the WSM made it sound dangerous.


I know of the danger in the fronts, just got lucky I guess --

just curious ---

LarryT
91 300D

On 1/18/2015 10:18 PM, Peter Frederick via Mercedes wrote:
Put a used half-shaft in my brother's 300E today, cured the vibration 
on the highway.  Inner joint had some radial play and clicked, outer 
joint freely extended in and out at least an inch, unlike the used one 
we installed.  My niece is working 40 miles form home, needs a car 
that isn't going to toss an axle on her on the highway.


Also finally got around to installing new shocks on the rear of the 
300D -- quite an improvement in ride with a great reduction in noise, 
I may enjoy my drive to work every day now.   I certainly will enjoy 
the 30 mpg over the TE's 20!


Later this week we will tackle the right rear wheel bearing on the TE 
along with the spring link bearing (the left one had no boots left, 
seriously corroded, right side makes at least as much noise).  
Probably need to replace the right front wheel bearing too, its 
thumping, I think.  Could be just the rear, but I doubt it.


Peter

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Cold starts is certainly a part of it but what pulled me to M1 was its 
ability to withstand high temps better than standard oil.   But it sure 
is comforting to hear an engine spin easily when the car has been 
outside all night and it's in the 20's - or colder;-)


LarryT
91 300D

On 1/14/2015 11:36 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:

Almost certainly this is the crux of the thing. The time for synthetic oil is 
when you NEED the car to start when its cold out.If it were to be very cold out 
I'd want a 5w or even 0w in the engine. I used M1 0w40 some in my '83 240D but 
the engine was loud and it leak/consumed it bad, 5w40 was a better compromise 
in that car. I suspect an OM61x car would tolerate the 0w40 better but needs it 
less as they'll start when its much colder.
-Curt
   From: Donald Snook via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
  To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com
  Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 11:27 AM
  Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D

Maybe it didn't matter which oil was in it as long as it was changed regularly and the other maintenance like valve adjustments was also done?


Don Snook
2000 BMW 740iL  (215K)
2006 Cadillac SRX (her car)
1992 Ford F-150 (the Truck)



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Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2015 9:03 PM
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Subject: Re: [MBZ] 300D

G: The '83 300D I bought in 2000 had had Amsoil in its crankcase for the first 
180,000 miles. The next 120,000 it had Mobil 1 except for a year or so of Delo.
The mechanic who finished putting on the chain when I broke my hip, said it was 
in great shape. It still starts at the touch of the key. The Amsoil certainly 
didn't hurt it.

--

On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 7:52 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


The debate concerning Amsoil Vs Mobil 1 will likely continue for a long
time.  As far as buying Amsoil - it can be bought from the website
(Amsoil.com)  in 2 ways.  You can become a dealer for  a short time for a
reduced price and buy the oil and other products at wholesale prices.  If
you prefer not to do that I can sell it to you.

Even paying the dealer fee gets the oil for less than buying retail.



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Re: [MBZ] 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

The debate concerning Amsoil Vs Mobil 1 will likely continue for a long 
time.   As far as buying Amsoil - it can be bought from the website 
(Amsoil.com)  in 2 ways.  You can become a dealer for  a short time 
for a reduced price and buy the oil and other products at wholesale 
prices.   If you prefer not to do that I can sell it to you.


Even paying the dealer fee gets the oil for less than buying retail.
On 1/13/2015 9:26 AM, Jaime Kopchinski via Mercedes wrote:

He's been quiet the last few days... Maybe he's come to him senses or given
up.

Meanwhile I'm helping my intern try to deal with cold weather starting.  He
has a really nice '77 300D with 80k miles.  The cold last week was too much
for it.  He put in a new battery after running it down.  We'll adjust the
valves and I'm suggesting to him to run some synthetic oil for the next few
months.  Any opinions about the Amsoil 30w 10w/30?

Looks like a good choice which can be mail ordered.

Using a block heater isn't an option where he parks.

Jaime


On Monday, January 12, 2015, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Let me suggest that you reply to him, telling him that he has no idea how
fortunate he is.
These cars are beautiful machines that are sought after by a lot of very
smart people who could usually have any vehicle they wanted but choose to
have these.
Tell him that it is becoming more and more difficult to find these models
in good condition because they tend to be used by their owners and thus
tend to
have a lot of miles on them.
Tell him that he needs to better educate himself on the subject if he
intends to continue his ownership and suggest some forums that he might
wish to participate in.
Also suggest to him, that these models are likely on the upward curve in
terms of value and impress upon him that he needs to keep the car in a good
state of repair and appearance if he expects to benefit from his ownership.
Then finish off by telling him that you are offended by his complaints
and have no wish to hear further complaints from him.

RB


Attaboy!  Excellent advice.  Wish I'd a thought of it!

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Re: [MBZ] 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Wow - they seemed to pass the tests until after the sale.  You're right 
about the scary part - inviting people you don't know to your home is 
always risky.   Especially when it's more than one as it's hard to watch 
more than 1 as well as just one.


LarryT
91 300D

On 1/11/2015 5:22 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

I’m going challenge that logic for a number of reasons.

While I understand what you’re suggesting and it sounds all fine and dandy, you 
have no idea what this person has done to the car during their short period of 
ownership.  You’re also essentially accepting their challenge of the “fitness 
of merchantability” as well - in other words, you’re alluding that there may be 
some basis to their claims that the car is somehow defective or been 
misrepresented.

I am assuming the car was sold as-is, with no warranty or guarantee.  If in 
fact, that is the case, any duress on the part of the buyer is theirs and 
theirs only.

Do understand that if I sold something and it had a defect that I wasn’t aware 
of, and the buyer brought it to my attention in a relatively short period of 
time, I would try to work something out to address the defect (after verifying 
that it truly was a defect.)  If this is nothing more than a veiled attempt at 
dealing with buyers remorse, which it sounds like it is, too bad.



I once sold a 15” MacBook Pro on Craigslist.  The buyer came by with his son and checked 
the MBP out in detail.  I spoke to them at length about their intended use, as this was 
the last of the CoreDuo machines, NOT Core2Duo, meaning it had reached end of life as far 
as OS upgrades.  I stated this clearly in the ad, discussed it with them at great length, 
etc., going well out of my way to make sure they understood the limitations of the 
laptop.  They assured me they knew all about it and that they had researched 
their needs in detail, and this machine would be just fine.

The next day I get a text from the buyer that they’re coming over to return the 
machine, as it is “no good”.  I call them and ask what is wrong.  After five 
minutes of nonsensical carrying on about how the machine is “bad”, they finally 
come out and say that the FireWire port is not working.  We had checked it when 
they took delivery and it was functioning.

I told them to bring it by with whatever device they were using and if it was 
indeed defective i would return their money as long as they returned everything 
in the same condition it was sold in.

They came back a few hours later with an external FireWire hard drive and a 
later model MacBook for reference.  We tested everything, and it turned out 
that the FireWire port on their external hard drive was bad.  End of story.  
They were not happy.

Got a text the next morning from the guy saying the MBP didn’t meet their needs 
and they would be selling it. ???

That was the last time I ever sold something on CL from my house.  It was scary.

Dan



On Jan 11, 2015, at 5:01 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for $50 a 
day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him and you'll 
get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...

LarryT
91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)


On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
buyer.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I think Max's suggestion is perfect.  But I think renting him a 300D for 
$50 a day is too low.   Maybe $80 or $100?   It will either satisfy him 
and you'll get the car back or he'll stop bothering you...


LarryT
91 300D (just turned 243K and just got a *perfect* oil analysis!)


On 1/11/2015 8:40 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Sorry to hear that.  You could offer to buy it back, his purchase price
minus $50 per day plus other fees and expenses.  There will be another
buyer.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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[MBZ] Brake Noise W124 '91 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang
I hope everyone had a great Christmas and a Happy New year!  ;-)

I noticed something for the 1st time today - as the brakes were 
applied I could hear a soft high pitched buzz that started and stopped 
every time the pedal is pressed and stops when the pedal is released.


It's pretty hard to hear unless the radio is down pretty low.  
The car has good pads all around and all have been  checked within the 
last 4-6 months  --   the fluid is at the correct level also.  Following 
a 20 mi RT to the store and home I felt the ABS pump(?) in the left 
front corner and it was cool.  I seem to recall it or the lines to/from 
it being hot in the past.  Which should they - hot or cool?


What could that noise be?  It is definitely not metal to metal - 
i's like nothing I've heard before...


Thanks -
LarryT
91 300D
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Re: [MBZ] OT - Computer question

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thanks Guys - Lots of great suggestions.  IMO the restore is the biggest 
concern - I was happy with Carbonite until I had to restore my email - 
then it was not so easy.


Thanks Guys -
Larry

On 12/16/2014 10:03 AM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

I use Time Machine, but I have not had to restore anything yet.

-- Jim


It is simple to restore.  Just go to the date you want to restore, 
find the files and drag them back to your HD (location you want them 
to go)  Same procedure for moving to a new machine.


Unfortunately, it does not provide offsite storage, and I don't think 
it is available for winders or penguins.


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Re: [MBZ] Fog Light Problem

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Yeah, I've replaced Ign switches on both the 123 and 124 we own

Larry

On 12/9/2014 2:18 PM, Curly McLain wrote:

Hi Gang --
A while back I wrote about a problem I had where both fog lights 
stopped working.  i tested the bulbs and that worked great with 12V 
-- I changed the light switch with a new one I didn't know I had and 
Presto!  I now have Fog Lights to help spot the deer along the side 
of the road.  ;-)


LarryT
91 300D



them switches (and klima) never go bad!

RGHT!

I think i have only seen a light switch on am MB fail one other time, 
in a '62.


Ign switch gave up in the one 240D.  The DO fail too.




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[MBZ] Fog Light Problem

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Gang --
A while back I wrote about a problem I had where both fog lights 
stopped working.  i tested the bulbs and that worked great with 12V -- I 
changed the light switch with a new one I didn't know I had and Presto!  
I now have Fog Lights to help spot the deer along the side of the road.  ;-)


LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thanks Fred-
I'll find some!   I also want to be sure I'm not overlooking the obvious 
- i.e., any device that operates a kick-down function will do so for 
_any _up-shift and not just a 1-2 shift, right?


Thx again,
LarryT
91 300D


On 12/6/2014 10:58 AM, Fred Moir via Mercedes wrote:

Rich.Me too!I visited Rudesheim an Rhein in 1961 as a student, fond memories of 
Halgarten's hospitality.
Jeez, but I'm getting olde.
Fred Moir.Lynn MA.Diesel preferred.


Date: Sat, 6 Dec 2014 10:49:41 -0500
To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sat morning fun
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com

I want this.  Badly.  I don't know why but I want it.  Badly.


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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thx Max -

Yeah, they offered some suggestions which didn't help - them they 
suggested the ProLube (if that's what it's called).


LarryT

On 12/5/2014 3:47 PM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:


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Re: [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thx Curt,
Actually the 300D gets driven at 45-60mph about 40 or more miles 
per day.  It's been like that since we bought it.   It has 240k on 
it and I just pulled a oil Analysis which came out *Perfect*. You are 
right about SV saying I should use Dexron.  I still have the M1 ATF in 
my garage.  I think I'll try M1 and see what happens.   I am also a big 
M1 fan BTW.   But I thought SV should know best...


Actually the Mechanic in a Can worked for  a  little while but i 
can't say for sure it was the magic juice.


But 1st I'll try M1...

Thx
LarryT
91 300D

On 12/5/2014 4:02 PM, Curt Raymond wrote:
You've tried changing the fluid? Using Mobil 1? I seem to remember 
your saying the rebuilder had told you not to use Mobil 1 which seems 
strange to me since so many of us (myself included) have had excellent 
luck with it.


If it occasionally works I'd guess varnish in the valves. IIRC you 
don't drive a whole bunch. Assuming thats true and assuming you're not 
using Mobil 1 thats the first thing I'd do, then go out and drive the 
stink out of it. Maybe some of the magic elixer somebody else 
mentioned. I know you don't believe in better living through chemistry 
but if the problem is really a sticky valve and not a component 
failure chemistry is the way to go...


-Curt


*From:* LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
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*Sent:* Friday, December 5, 2014 3:32 PM
*Subject:* [MBZ] AT Does not engage 1st

Hello --
About 4 years ago I bought one of Rusty's rebuilt AT''s.  It was
fine until about 3-4 months after the 2 year warranty expired when it
stopped engaging 1st.  it occasionally works but mostly it doesn't.  The
kick-down works perfectly for the 4-3 shift.

I asked the list when it 1st happened and rec'd a couple of
suggestions - the thing that baffles me the most is that it works for
4-3 but not for 2-1.

It's been a long time since I've been inside a AT and I can't think
of what might be the problem.  Maybe dirt in the valve body? maybe a
bad solenoid or something?

any ideas?

Thx
LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] Let's raise the speed limit to 85 in MT!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I am sure you're right about how bad people will allow their cars to 
deteriorate and still drive them but I think we need to put the pressure 
on our citizens to  grow up and maintain their cars if they want to 
drive at the speeds others find acceptable.   IMO it's like the Nanny 
state run amok that pervades our lives in so many ways.


BTW, a few years ago Road  Track magazine ran a test (or at least wrote 
about one conducted at a university) where people were put in cars with 
the speedo covered up  allowed to drive for X distance to see what 
speed they would feel most comfortable driving.   After they acclimated 
to their speed, the majority of people drove at 100mph +/- 10mph.  That 
impressed me and I have remembered it for more than 40 years.   I think 
it was an article about radar and how it was used by police.


Anyway, there have been suggestions in the past for people to have 
colored license plates or other markings to indicate their level of 
driving ability  experience - and could also be used to indicate 
drivers (or their cars) that had been convicted of driving 
drunk/high/texting,


And yes I realize that would escalate the Nanny state I am so much 
against.   But who's listening to me?   ;-)


LarryT
91 300D
78 240D

On 12/1/2014 5:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:


The thing that scares me about this is the fact that many folks do not 
maintain their cars well. If one is going to run that fast, then it is 
important to have a vehicle with decent tires and to maintain the 
brakes, suspension etc.
It is amazing how often one sees vehicles on the streets that have 
suffered broken ball joints etc. Some people will literally drive 
until the wheels fall off.


Having said that, however, I will admit to travelling pretty fast 
sometimes. We went to Grand Forks ND a week ago Saturday and on the 
way back were sometimes running 90 mph. The road is so straight and 
smooth and there is so little traffic that one must either set the 
cruise control of pay pretty strict attention to the speedo. After a 
while, it feels like one is just crawling along and then one discovers 
that one has increased the speed from 75 mph to 90 mph.
I think I could pretty readily run that road at 100 mph when the 
pavement was bare and this is in a pickup truck. Imagine what I could 
do with a fast car


Randy

On 01/12/2014 2:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

If you cruise at 70 better watch your rear view mirror...
HELENA – Four state lawmakers are drafting bills for next year’s
legislative session that would raise the daytime speed limit on Montana
interstate highways from 75 to 80 and possibly as high as 85 mph.

State Rep. Mike Miller, R-Helmville, and state Rep.-elect Art Wittich,
R-Bozeman, both said Utah, Wyoming and Idaho all have raised their speed
limits above 75 and they haven’t seen any problems as a result.

“I just think our roads are engineered well and technology is such we 
can

drive those roads safely,” Wittich said.

Montanans want to be able to drive faster, he said, and should have the
freedom to do so.

Sens. Scott Sales, R-Bozeman, and Jonathan Windy Boy, D-Box Elder, 
also are

backing speed-limit bills.

Montana Highway Patrol Col. Tom Butler declined to comment on the bills
until he has a chance to see them, but he told the Missoulian that 
driving

faster reduces reaction time and makes stopping more difficult.

“Our overall goal is to keep everyone in one piece and get them home 
safe,”

Butler said. “Most crashes are a whole lot of little things that come
together and become one big thing.”

Windy Boy said he travels around the country to dance at Native American
powwows and has driven in states with 80 mph speed limits.

“As big a state as Montana is, for the most part, the traffic is pretty
sparse,” he said. “Once in a while it helps to get from Point A to 
Point B

a little quicker.”

Sales said he spent seven months working in the Bakken oil patch, 
driving

back and forth to Bozeman regularly.

“If I could drive 85 mph on the interstate, it would save an hour,” 
Sales

said.

He said the speed limit in his bill is negotiable. “Eighty-five would be
fine with me,” he said.
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Re: [MBZ] Let's raise the speed limit to 85 in MT!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Oh Man!   I love Mt!!   I would imagine that all that open space in Mt 
(and adjoining states), it would be impossible _not _to drive faster 
than 55!


LarryT
91 300D
74 911

On 12/1/2014 6:14 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Montana had a reasonable and prudent speed limit and thumbed their 
noses at the 55 speed limit.  The goobers didn't like that, so put 
Montana over a barrel to pass a 55 speed limit. Montana did so, under 
duress, but in the law, the penalty was $5, payable to the state 
trooper.  It also made no records, and did not send information about 
the speeding ticket to any other state, or any insurance company.  
In effect, Montana still thumbed their nose at the 55 law.


If you have ever tried to drive across Montana at 55, or even 70, you 
will understand why Montana needs a different speed limit. It is a big 
state.  500  miles on I 90.


As for speed ratings, I always contended that cars should have speed 
ratings and so should drivers.  The speed limit should be a 
combination of the road, the driver and the car.  That is how fast you 
can go on a race track.  Arbitrary speed limits  are for revenue 
generation not for safety even though the sheeple are told the 
opposite.


To put it in perspective: If you were to leave Kittery, maine, and 
drive south on I -95 for 500 miles, how many states would you cross? 
10   You could get to Virginia.  From Extreme northwoods to the Old 
South, in the distance of Montana.


And, texas is bigger than Montana
and alaska is big enough to swallow texas several times.


I thought Montana or somewhere like that did not have a speed limit 
but then had to have one because they got sued or something


Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 1, 2014, at 4:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 The thing that scares me about this is the fact that many folks do 
not maintain their cars well. If one is going to run that fast, then 
it is important to have a vehicle with decent tires and to maintain 
the brakes, suspension etc.
 It is amazing how often one sees vehicles on the streets that have 
suffered broken ball joints etc. Some people will literally drive 
until the wheels fall off.


 Having said that, however, I will admit to travelling pretty fast 
sometimes. We went to Grand Forks ND a week ago Saturday and on the 
way back were sometimes running 90 mph. The road is so straight and 
smooth and there is so little traffic that one must either set the 
cruise control of pay pretty strict attention to the speedo. After a 
while, it feels like one is just crawling along and then one 
discovers that one has increased the speed from 75 mph to 90 mph.
 I think I could pretty readily run that road at 100 mph when the 
pavement was bare and this is in a pickup truck. Imagine what I 
could do with a fast car


 Randy


 On 01/12/2014 2:42 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:
 If you cruise at 70 better watch your rear view mirror...
 HELENA - Four state lawmakers are drafting bills for next year's
 legislative session that would raise the daytime speed limit on 
Montana

 interstate highways from 75 to 80 and possibly as high as 85 mph.

 State Rep. Mike Miller, R-Helmville, and state Rep.-elect Art 
Wittich,
 R-Bozeman, both said Utah, Wyoming and Idaho all have raised their 
speed

 limits above 75 and they haven't seen any problems as a result.

 I just think our roads are engineered well and technology is such 
we can

 drive those roads safely, Wittich said.

 Montanans want to be able to drive faster, he said, and should 
have the

 freedom to do so.

 Sens. Scott Sales, R-Bozeman, and Jonathan Windy Boy, D-Box Elder, 
also are

 backing speed-limit bills.

 Montana Highway Patrol Col. Tom Butler declined to comment on the 
bills
 until he has a chance to see them, but he told the Missoulian that 
driving

 faster reduces reaction time and makes stopping more difficult.

 Our overall goal is to keep everyone in one piece and get them 
home safe,

 Butler said. Most crashes are a whole lot of little things that come
 together and become one big thing.

 
 Windy Boy said he travels around the country to dance at Native 
American

 powwows and has driven in states with 80 mph speed limits.

 As big a state as Montana is, for the most part, the traffic is 
pretty
 sparse, he said. Once in a while it helps to get from Point A to 
Point B

 a little quicker.

 Sales said he spent seven months working in the Bakken oil patch, 
driving

 back and forth to Bozeman regularly.

 If I could drive 85 mph on the interstate, it would save an 
hour, Sales

 said.

 He said the speed limit in his bill is negotiable. Eighty-five 
would be

 fine with me, he said.
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Re: [MBZ] Let's raise the speed limit to 85 in MT!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Under your proposal, I suspect 90% of the population would be in golf 
carts, 8% on mopeds, 1% in 240D Like cars and 1% in the unlimited class.

;-)
LarryT

On 12/1/2014 7:58 PM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

I have always been of the opinion that driving license should be done on a
demonstrated skills and condition of car standard, with provision for an
Unlimited license, meaning that after rigorous testing for reaction
times, skill level, physical condition, drug and alcohol habits, and
mechanical knowledge, AS WELL AS, rigid vehicle inspection on the same
scale as pre race tech inspection, a qualified person with qualified
equipment, and demonstrated judgement, should be able to drive at unlimited
speed in certain roadways.

This graduated license to operate a motor vehicle would relegate some to
a golf cart with an instructor, on the lower limit, with progressive steps
to the Unlimited license.

The concept draws from what is being done by the FAA presently in the
granting of pilots licenses, then adding Instrument ratings, then
Commercial ratings, Multi engine ratings, then Flight Instructor ratings,
Airline Transport Ratings, and Specific Type Certificate Ratings.. for
example. Layers of complexity with increasing levels of speed and
complexity.

Or as a friend of mine who is an FAA inspector says; I'm from the FAA and
we're not happy until you're not happy

Grant...

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

  He said the speed limit in his bill is negotiable. “Eighty-five would be

fine with me,” he said.


IIRC, the interstate system was designed to be driven at 70mph by a
competent driver in a '57 Chevy with drum brakes and bias ply tires. Since
then, the cars have become more capable and crash-safe by leaps and bounds.
But I suspect the drivers are less competent and much less attentive on the
average.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Let's raise the speed limit to 85 in MT!

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Unfortunately I think that attitude is universal in the US, -  the lack 
of knowledge of driving has moved to all segments of cars.  It used to 
be Porsche owners would either flash each others with a high beam blink, 
or give a small wave,  now, only owners of, say, pre 95, 911s return the 
flash or wave!  I used to remember the flashing behavior being common to 
drivers of _all _sports cars but there are so few of the sports cars 
that used to be everywhere - that the flashing between drivers has 
disappeared with the cars.  I used to see MGs, Triumphs, AH, Lotus, 
Porsche, etc everywhere  -- now I only see them at old car meetings.   
BTW, I always wanted the emission laws to not apply to makers of less 
than 5000 or so cars per year.  As a part of the total number of cars on 
the road their presence was miniscule to start with - now it's non existent.


I know, I'm living in the past...

LarryT

On 12/1/2014 9:22 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
You flash people here driving in the left lane and they have no clue 
what you are doing, which also stands to reason they have no clue what 
they are doing either since they are driving in the left lane. The 
last 3 months I have had to drive at least 300 miles a day all highway 
and I would say it is almost half or more of cars I pass I have to 
pass them on the right because they are driving in the left lane and 
will not move over.


On 12/1/2014 8:13 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Or have rules similar to what the autobahn used to be.  If you are 
impeding progress in the left lane, you get over or get fined.


That is why MBs since 1963 or 64 have had high beam flashers. They 
are to signal to the car ahead  (on the Autobahn or Autostrada) that 
you are closing and they need to get over into the right lane.



What scares me is the difference in speed driven on the highways. We 
drove

from AR to OK Sat. There was a LOT of traffic in the toll road between
Tulsa and OKC. At one point traffic was backed up for close to a mile
because one semi was driving 63 and trying to pass another that was 
driving

61 (or so). They were see-sawing over the hills for several miles. The
slower traffic is as much a hazard as the faster traffic. I think 
the speed

limits should have a 5mph spread, with severe penalties for exceeding
either end. Those who can't maintain the posted speed limits need to 
get

off and find a two-lane.

On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 4:05 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:



 The thing that scares me about this is the fact that many folks do 
not
 maintain their cars well. If one is going to run that fast, then 
it is
 important to have a vehicle with decent tires and to maintain the 
brakes,

 suspension etc.

 Randy


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Re: [MBZ] OT - Hybrid Renewable Energy and battery storage systems

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Actually, as a percentage of their gross income their profit is lower 
than just about any other industry.  (except maybe grocers) Oil profit 
is usually around 3%.   It cost a huge amount to do all of the RD, 
drilling dry holes, etc.   I know they make a lot - but compared to 
other industries it's very low.


The people who really rake in the big bucks from oil sales is the 
government!   They make their profit without any  effort!


LarryT


On 12/1/2014 11:36 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:
Well, there are a couple of benefits to this big time poker game.  We 
get slightly lower fuel prices for a short period, and Vlad gets hung 
out to dry off a bit.


The downside:
The goobers here have been talking for a year and a half about raising 
fuel taxes.  This will give them incentive and excuses to raise the 
taxes.


Meanwhile the oil companies and distributors rake in record profits.


Yeah, I think that it's really messing Vlad up quite a bit.  Tough to 
pay for all his toys and deal with the embargoes in place from the 
West and the EU when one of his major exports is tanking.  Im curious 
to see if he tries to cut off Eastern European natural gas as winter 
closes in.


A good Planet Money the other day (I think it was Planet Money) about 
OPEC and how the players are constantly cheating each other over 
sneaking oil out when they have agreed to a particular level of 
production.  There were a number of descriptions of how various 
countries cheat on OPEC production limits so they can generate more 
$$$.


Dan


 On Dec 1, 2014, at 1:07 PM, Curly McLain 126die...@gmail.com wrote:

 No suspicion.  That was the announcement over the weekend after the 
last opec meeting.  They refused to cut production to try to put the 
frackers out of business.  They are deliberately lowering oil prices 
to put competition out of business.  It is a global price war. 
Unfortunately, not much of it has shown up at the pump.


 They are trying to strengthen their position long term by 
eliminating competition.



  It is also putting the squeeze on Vlad and the Norge.


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Re: [MBZ] hi miles

[LarryT via Mercedes]

my 78 240D can still be driven any time.   the only known problem which 
might be considered serious is the broken parking pawl in the tranny..   
Of course it has the typical rust on the floors and rockers and one hood 
hinge has a screw missing.  t has 330K mi.


our 91 300D is like new - just got a absolutely perfect oil analysis, 
the tranny is perfect, body is even perfect for a 20+ yr old car that is 
driven daily as my wife's work car.   Dead dependable, 240K miles.


I really need to get some High mileage Badges from MB.  I have one for 
the 78 240D. but only the 1st.


LarryT

On 11/19/2014 8:56 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

You are disqualified from the contest due to disaggregation of the vehicle,
although the high miles earn you an attaboy.

On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 7:34 PM, dseretakis--- via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


My 73 220D which is in pieces now, has 800K miles:)

Sent from my iPhone


On Nov 19, 2014, at 6:51 PM, Rick Hawkins Java via Mercedes 

mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Folks

Our daughter's 300D turbo 1984 has about 392,000 miles

and a working odometer

it runs well

she got a bunch of the grill mileage badges from mercedes

thanks,

xx rick
Rick Hawkins

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Re: [MBZ] Selling My 1983 300D

[LarryT via Mercedes]

IMO the w124s were easier to keep pristine - as yours and mine are. The 
123's are great cars and very utilitarian but the rust bug loves them.  
All the plastic on the 124s really keep the rust at bay.


The 124 is my wife's daily driver but she'd like something other than a 
MB just as a change but I don't think I can find anything that will have 
the build quality (yeah, I know) the MBs have so we will have something 
for many years.


LarryT
78 240D
91 300D

On 11/19/2014 10:57 PM, Dwight Giles via Mercedes wrote:

My 90 124 2.5t has 242k  miles  runs  looks mint. I am going for a 500k
km grille badge.
On Nov 19, 2014 6:18 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


A pup for sure!

  My 28-year-old 124 is still a newbie at only 140 kmi.;)

Wilton


I figure a 124 or 126 is not broken in until 200K.   Your 300D probably
still smells new too.

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Re: [MBZ] Neuropathy IVIG

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I had IVIG treatments back in the late 90s when my disease 1st raised 
its ugly head.  I was to the point I was only sleeping 10 min or so at a 
time due to pain and those 10 min were not very restful. It's amazing 
what sleep deprivation will do.


The 1st IVIG treatment was pretty effective.  I got about 5 hours of 
great sleep for a change.  6 months later I got another IVIG treatment 
and it was effective for a couple of months.   We tried once more but I 
didn't see change at all.  we then went to narcotics and my neurologists 
turned me over to a Anesthesiologist who tried similar methods before 
putting a pump under the skin with Dilaudid (concentrated morphine)  in 
it dripping  into my spine.


at some point in the early '00s, a med called Lyrica was developed which 
made a huge positive difference.   But I'm not so sure the original 
diagnosis was 100% accurate.


I'd like to try weight loss and exercise but it's so hard to exercise 
when my legs are a problem.  My ortho surgeon suggested water exercise 
which I hope to try soon.   so we'll see.


mao said he forgot what caused the need for IVIG -- nerve damage. There 
are variants but I was told mine is Chronic Inflammatory demylinating 
polyneuropathy. (CIDP) .  There's also Guilleme Berret (sp?) which can 
also be quite bad.  My only symptom is extreme pain while others have 
pain and muscle loss causing some to become wheelchair bound.  Others 
have seen remission and have become almost 100% again.


Back to mao - my problem is the mylin covering on the nerve bundles is 
being attacked by antibodies - when mylin is lost the signals to the 
brain are confused.  The nerve bundles look like millions of sausage 
strings and the casing would be the mylin.


Wilt  I both have the same disease - when I was getting the IVIG I was 
told it was a $10K prescription  -- thankfully I have insurance that 
covered it.   Some people have IVIG treatments very often - like 2-3 per 
week.   Maybe that would have helped me?  But since the 3rd single 
treatment didn't help it wasn't suggested that I continue.Plus, for 
me, it was such an unpleasant experience i was not in much of a hurry to 
repeat treatments.  I am convinced one of the injections caused a DVT 
(blood clot in leg) even though the Neur. said that wasn't the cause.   
I'm convinced the thick, cold fluid that was fed into my vein did not 
breakdown enough before reaching my legs and caused the blood in my leg 
to coagulate causing the clot.   But that's my interpretation.


Before this (in ~1996) I never lost time from work due to illness. But 
this makes up for it.  ;-)


The fun just never ends...

LarryT
91 300D

On 11/71/2014 2:25 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


was taking that stuff and still progressively declining.  She changed 
her diet and took up exercise and riding horses and stuff like that, and 
has improved considerably. Apparently that is the experience of many.  
FWIW, I have no idea how that might relate to your situation, but I 
thought it was quite interesting.


--R


On 11/7/14 12:35 PM, WILTON via Mercedes wrote:

'Went for intravenous immunoglobulin (IVIG) treatment at 7; home by 10.

Wilton

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On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 10:15:28 -0500 WILTON via Mercedes
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Works

W


Yup.

So what are you up to today, Wilton?


Craig

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Re: [MBZ] Today's CL Crack Smoker

[LarryT via Mercedes]

what's the deal with the Salvage Title?   He seems to gloss over that 
little tidbit


What part of  COMPLETE NO DAMAGED ORIGINAL VERY RARE SPORT CAR  
contains the salvage stuff, I wonder?


LarryT
91 300D

On 11/8/2014 10:40 AM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
INTERIOR COMPLETE NO DAMAGED ORIGINAL (except for the trashed seats, 
carpet, mold, spider webs, and windows)



BUT THE ODOMETER DON'T SEEMS TO BE ACCURATED CAR'S COMPLETE NEED A 
PAINT BASICALLY TO BE A NICE DRIVER


--R



On 11/8/14 7:01 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Looks like they were smoking in the car….


http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mercedes-Benz-SL-Class-SL-300-1990-mercedes-sl-300-convertible-white-car-as-been-stolen-and-recover-/261653347749?forcerrptr=truehash=item3cebc13da5item=261653347749pt=US_Cars_Trucks 


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[MBZ] MB 600 - Jay Leno

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Ya'll -
Jay's Garage on YouTube has a excellent video showing his 600 - 
which he says his favorite MB.The 19 min video opens with Jay 
driving his 600 with the opening playing a score of The Ride of the 
Valkyries . Very impressive.
 Jay, (he asks that I call him by his 1st name),  ;-) really 
knows the details of his cars - he knows so many details, it's easy to 
see he is a real gear head.
I knew some of the details of the 600 - like the hydraulic system 
that controls the windows - but to watch the trunk lid close is a real 
sight to see!   Take a little time to watch it - it is really 
impressive.   Seeing that 600 made me wish I still had my 280SE 4.5 ;-)

Enjoy,
LarryT
91 300D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LnHdWgLlFI

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Re: [MBZ] OT - another non-political B-52 tale - FINALE QUICK DEPARTURE

[LarryT via Mercedes]

mao,
Wow - you really had to go a long way back to find that example. Got 
anything newer?  IMO, when the church began to be less managed by 
monarchs interested in expanding territory and more managed by religious 
types who read the Bible and realized Jesus has a forgiveness game plan 
and not a convert or die game plan.  OTOH, the muslims have been 
pretty much using the same tactics since the MIddle Ages except Battle 
Axes have been (mostly) replaced by machetes and Suicide Vests.


LarryT
91 300D


On 11/1/2014 8:38 PM, Mountain Man via Mercedes wrote:

Hasn't church also proven to have the same objective?
viz. crusades and current missions efforts?
I tend to see many similaritie



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[MBZ] The Road to Mercedes

[LarryT via Mercedes]

NBCSports is airing a program called Road to Mercedes which has a 
couple of journalist driving from UK to Stuttgart in a loaner GL450 AMG 
where they visit a restoration shop who restores MBs to 100 points.   
They appeared to have 2 dozen 300SL Gullwings and Roadsters in various 
stages of restoration - they then went to the AMG shop where they 
assemble engines and watched as various engines were put together (a V8 
takes 3.5 hrs start to finish) -- it was really amazing stuff!   Keep 
watching for reruns - I recommend this program - it's filled with MB 
history -


LarryT
91 300D

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Re: [MBZ] OT - Shotguns

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Great story G,
That carbide Cannon sounds GREAT!I think they used to advertise 
them in Comic Books or other magazines for imaginative kids.   ;-)   
Sometimes I wonder how we survived!  no bike helmets, we had BB guns and 
real guns, firecrackers, cherry bombs, M80s, etc.  Once we got the 
bright idea to make our own shrapnel bomb.  We took a number of 
firecrackers apart, poured the gunpowder into a old perfume bottle, lit 
the fuse and ran like crazy!IIRC there were 3 of is and we all 
managed to get 75 or more yards away and we flung our young bodies with 
heads filled with mush on the ground behind a log a split second before 
we heard a loud Boom! followed by the unmistakable sound of glass and 
the other shrapnel we had added going through leaves, branches, etc - 
all safely over our heads thank God!Like I said, it's a wonder we 
survived!   Kids today don't know how to use imagination to entertain 
themselves ;-)


On non-school days we be out of the house after breakfast, grab a 
tube of BBs and a BB rifle and not be home again until supper time.   We 
also used to play army with real guns - they had been de-activated or we 
didn't have ammo )probably a good thing) and we spend the say shooting 
each other.  (of _course _we never would have shot at any person with 
the real guns even if they had worked and we'd had ammo - i have to 
remember my audience).


I and my friends did that through elementary school and part of Jr 
HS - at which time we discovered that most dangerous game of all - 
Girls!  ;-)  then we were well  truly doomed!   Yeah, how did we survive???


LarryT
91 300D

On 10/27/2014 1:52 AM, G Mann via Mercedes wrote:

Boys will be boys.

I grew up with full access to the family machine shop, which was equipped
to build just about anything. Being inventive, I came up with the idea to
make a carbide cannon.. carbide being an easy source of acetylene gas,
which delivers excellent explosive energy.

A few days later out rolled a cannon made from triple wall steam pipe, with
the bore just the right size to accept beer cans poured full of concrete.
The charge size was set by the amount of room from the breech end to the
back of the beer can, so it wasn't long till all the boys around my age in
the community were involved in cannon shots.

We started small. Our goal was to splash a shot into the pond down range
about 2000 ft. so we started walking beer cans out while playing with
elevation and shot gas charge size.. Naturally.. being boys, we used good
judgement [right?] and soon the goal became how far can this thing
shoot...

About evening time, on the third day of shooting ... the distance money
shot came about and we really let it go for broke...

Shortly my neighbor arrived in his pickup truck.. shall we say... very
upset?  His dairy farm was 1 1/4 miles away and we had managed to deliver
the concrete filled beer can through the roof of his milking barn.. with a
barn full on cows, at milking time...  [can you start counting how many bad
decisions it took to do that?]

The only really good news was, no one was killed, no animals were
injured...

The next day, my father cut the cannon up and delivered it to the scrap
yard..while I was at school.. I never saw it again.. All members of the
cannon shooting club were given the task of rebuilding the neighbors
barn.. and buying the materials to do the job, with a strict time schedule.
Which we did.







On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 9:54 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 15:39:58 -0700 Curt Raymond via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Once I shot 8 rounds of trap in a row only taking breaks for more
shells and a quick sip of water while the trap machine was being
reloaded. After that I about fell down...

My dad used to tell the story of an incident of when he was a boy (about
10, I'd guess, so that would be about 1933 in Minneapolis).

Another boy got into his (that boy's) father's gun collection and brought
out to the several boys milling about down the street from his house a 10
gauge, double-barrel, double trigger shotgun. He asked how to shoot it.

Offering helpful advice, the group told him to put fingers on both
triggers and then press one and then the other.

The lad did just that. The first shot knocked him off his feet and onto
his back. As his shoulders hit the dirt, the second shot went off driving
the shotgun into his shoulder, which was now backed up by dirt. After
awhile, the poor fellow scraped himself off the ground and lumbered away
with the shotgun.

He never did say what happened after that ...

And then there was the story of my grandfather growing up in Maine, who
with his buddies made a crossbow with Model T springs and a projectile
from a couple of Model T valve stems welded together!

They finished their creation, cocked it, loaded a projectile, angled it
upwards, and let it fly! The projectile disappeared from sight leaving
them wondering what had

Re: [MBZ] the news

[LarryT via Mercedes]

All well said!  I especially liked the part where you said  we have a 
problem in the USA, and it would appear to be armed police, not armed 
citizens..More Guns equal Less Crime is a fact.


We should also remember the other saying it tales a good guy with a gun 
to stop a bad guy with a gun.


I hope everyone will follow the links provided below by Rick which show 
how bad the police are when they must use their guns.


LarryT
91 300D

On 10/22/2014 7:35 PM, Rick Knoble via Mercedes wrote:



Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 16:10:47 -0700
To: mi...@mitchellhaley.com; mercedes@okiebenz.com
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the news
From: mercedes@okiebenz.com



  In New York city I believe the police are legally required to at least
wound one little old lady per shootout. Sometimes it seems like they
need to go find a little old lady and drive her to the neighborhood so
they can shoot her...


We're way off topic here, but Ottawa is a major city in Canada.
In major cities in USA, like New York and Los Angeles, police accuracy standards
require them to shoot one cop or two innocent bystanders for every perp they
shoot. In order to keep up on their shooting practice, they're expected to fire
a full 17 round magazine for every perp they shoot at.



In case someone here thinks Curt and Mitch are making things up

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/33-officers-fire-600-bullets-car-knowing-contained-hostage/

http://www.coloradonewsday.com/news/regional/56902-investigation-into-police-shootout-after-23-officers-fired-377-rounds-on-two-unarmed-men.html

http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=47570

http://abcnews.go.com/US/women-accidentally-shot-cops-york-citys-times-square/story?id=20261689

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/18/andrea-rebello-hofstra-dead_n_3297994.html?icid=maing-grid7|maing10|dl1|sec1_lnk2%26pLid%3D315359

http://www.13wmaz.com/story/news/local/dublin/2014/10/01/warrant-meth-raid-led-to-fatal-laurens-shooting/16538903/

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141004/15443628731/swat-team-raids-house-kills-homeowner-because-criminal-who-burglarized-house-told-them-to.shtml


All this in about a minute of searching...

Folks, we have a problem in the USA, and it would appear to be armed police, 
not armed citizens.



Rick

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Re: [MBZ] the news

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Most Swiss males have an automatic weapon (usually a SIG SG550 - Gasp! 
there's an assault rifle in every home!) issued to them for Home Guard 
use.   They keep these fully automatic weapons with ammo along with 
semi-auto sidearms (pistols) in their homes.  It doesn't get much air 
time because gun violence is so low and the commonality of guns doesn't 
fit the anti-gun agenda of the media.


Also, in defense (sort of) NYC cops and their apparent lack of shooting 
skills -- it seems most cops have a similar problem. Around here (Va.), 
whenever there's a officer involved shooting, the officer invariably 
empties their magazine.   Newspaper coverage of other officer-involved 
shootings have similar comments.


re Lead at gun ranges - Hmm... how is all that lead being exposed to the 
users?   I go to an outdoor shooting range every Wednesday and the lead 
is either buried in a berm after we shoot it or it's in little boxes it 
comes in usually encased in a copper jacket.   I'd bet money lead levels 
are very low/non-existent.Any news story concerning lead being 
tracked home is likely distorted by an anti-gun attitude.


LarryT

On 10/22/2014 7:52 PM, clay via Mercedes wrote:

swiss have better gun training, looser hooker and drug laws.  USA has no gun 
training, hard up laws on hookers and guns.  Canada is more lax with hookers 
and drugs, but tight on guns.

Swiss have a more homogeneous society, and a common identity, even if they 
speak three languages.  Canada was populated by french and english trappers and 
explorers on the frontier, but more settled people in town.  USA was a dumping 
ground for malcontents and criminals under the english regime.  Later, it was 
just malcontents and escapees from poverty.  Not the cream of the crop

clay
  


On Oct 22, 2014, at 4:25 PM, Greg Fiorentino via Mercedes wrote:


Chicago and DC have even stricter laws than Canada, yet have more incidents.
Switzerland has looser laws than many places in the US, yet have just as few
incidents as Canada.  Perhaps there are other factors causing large numbers
of incidents.

Greg

-Original Message-
From: Mercedes [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
Strasfogel via Mercedes
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 4:18 PM
To: Mitch Haley; Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] the news

As Randy has pointed out, there are fewer loose guns around in Canada thanks
to their gun laws, so there are fewer such incidents.

On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 7:13 PM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Curt Raymond via Mercedes wrote:


I heard a report on NPR's The World where an office worker from the
building was as freaked out as you could get considering it was a
pretty minor shooting all things considered. He said it had Rocked
Canadians to the core. I sincerely hope most Canadians are made of
sterner stuff. The ones I know certainly are.


I suspect many of those living in Ottawa or Toronto are as ignorant
and fearful of guns as Diane Feinstein is.

Mitch.


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Re: [MBZ] Using epc.Startekinfo for W123

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Parts diagrams...

LarryT

On 10/19/2014 10:02 PM, Andrew Strasfogel wrote:

I must have missed something - what's the site good for?

On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 8:07 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Its the same on that ruskie VIN lookup site that was posted a
couple weeks ago.  I tried the 123.123.10 number and it would not
work. Then i tried putting WDB in front of the number without
periods, and it worked.

I have not yet tried WDB11011010 yet.



Has anyone found a way to use epc.startekinfo.com
http://epc.startekinfo.com for pre-82 W123 MB's?   As you
know it doesn't have the standardized VIN number which I
believe came out in 1982 so I have not been able to use it for
my 78 240D.

Any ideas?   I tried the Help Link but haven't heard back yet.

Thanks,
LarryT
78 240D
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Using epc.Startekinfo for W123

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Thx Kaleb - That WDB was throwing me.

LarryT

On 10/18/2014 3:10 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

You just put in 123 instead of the whole vin

Sent from my iPhone


On Oct 18, 2014, at 2:04 PM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Has anyone found a way to use epc.startekinfo.com for pre-82 W123 MB's?   As 
you know it doesn't have the standardized VIN number which I believe came out 
in 1982 so I have not been able to use it for my 78 240D.

Any ideas?   I tried the Help Link but haven't heard back yet.

Thanks,
LarryT
78 240D
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] W124 Rear Shocks

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Thx Gang - I knew that about the front suspension but didn't realize the 
rear was the same.   Thanks for the education!


LarryT

On 10/18/2014 9:36 AM, Meade Dillon via Mercedes wrote:

Larry,

The shock is the only safety which holds the rear suspension spring in
place.  When you remove the shock, you must support either the wheel or the
spring link, so the suspension does not extend further and explosively
release the spring.

You can safely remove the springs by detaching the shocks and then jacking
up the car to relieve the pressure on the springs, and they will simply
fall out of the car.

Max Dillon,
Charleston SC
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Re: [MBZ] Tire source

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Speaking of Hankooks, I've been running them on my 91 300D and my 74 911 
- all 8 tires look brand new.  The MB has approx 40,000 miles on them 
and they still look brand new. They have not seen much snow but what 
they have has been handled with ease.  No complaints about snow or rain 
performance.   Same for the 911 - very good traction in all conditions 
and great wear resistance.  Not as many miles on the 911 - maybe 12-15K.


They are priced lower than many tires but the price doesn't equal poor 
qualities.


LarryT
91 300D

On 10/17/2014 6:45 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

Almost as distinguished are Kumho, the tire essence of Seoul.

On Fri, Oct 17, 2014 at 4:55 PM, Craig via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com
wrote:


On Fri, 17 Oct 2014 15:32:57 -0400 Dan Penoff via Mercedes
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


I checked these guys previously. The best deal they have are on some
Sumitomos, but they only have a wear rating of like 320 for a little
over $600.

If I go up to $720, I can get Hankooks with a 500 rating.

I believe both of these are Korean brands?

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Hankook Tire (CEO: Seung Hwa Suh) is the seventh largest and one of the
fastest growing tire manufacturers in the world. It produces innovative,
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 Seventh largest tire manufacturer in the world.
 Recorded sales of USD 3.7 billion in 2008, an increase of 5.1 percent
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 1979 - Built Daejeon, Korea plant
 1981 - Established Hankook Tire America Corporation
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 1992 - Opened first overseas facility and RD Center in Akron, Ohio
 1994 - Hankook Tire established its Beijing branch in China
 1994 - Received

[MBZ] W124 Rear Shocks

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I am preparing to replace my rear shocks - w/new Bilsteins. (from Gary 
H) and there's a note in the WSM saying 'Vehicle must be standing on its 
wheels or have its spring link supported.


Is that for the whole RR procedure or just when tightening the 
fasteners?  And would it be acceptable to put the rear tire on a 
block/spacer of some sort so the cars weight is on the wheel/tire? (safe 
of course) while I tighten the lower bolt?


Thx
LarryT
91 300D 2.5T


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[MBZ] Using epc.Startekinfo for W123

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Has anyone found a way to use epc.startekinfo.com for pre-82 W123 
MB's?   As you know it doesn't have the standardized VIN number which I 
believe came out in 1982 so I have not been able to use it for my 78 240D.


Any ideas?   I tried the Help Link but haven't heard back yet.

Thanks,
LarryT
78 240D
91 300D


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Re: [MBZ] Headlight Lens Restoration

[LarryT via Mercedes]

I used McGuires Plast-X on the windows in my convertible top - on 
our '66 MGB.  All 3 were very cloudy and yellowed, I could only see 
shapes through them. I have done some BC/CC painting and have the DA 
buffer with several buffing pads intended to buff out the clear coat.   
When I finished buffing the 3 windows they looked like brand new!  I 
never dreamed they would look so much better. That's was in the Spring - 
April I think, and the windows still look like new!  The Plast-X has a 
compound in it to polish the plastic as well as some waxes that protect.


the stuff sold on TV says it has polymers  to keep the plastic 
looking new.  IMO that's kind of a generic description intended to make 
people think they will be getting something special when they may not 
actually get anything.


But I know Plast-X works.  Plus, it's avalable everywhere, (i.e., 
walmart and FLAPS).


I forgot that I used Plast-X on the 91 300D.   It polished the head 
 fog light covers but they were damaged by rock hits, etc that laft 
small chips in the plastic.   Naturally, nothing will fix that.  So I 
ended up with a shiny surface that was pock-marked.


Good Luck --
LarryT
91 300D
78 240D
66 MGB
74 911


On 10/16/2014 12:06 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes wrote:
Meguiers (sp?) made, and probably still does, a liquid polish intended 
for plastic windshields. I recall a friend using it to remove the bugs 
from the windshield of an aircraft.

I wonder if regular treatments of that would reduce the hazing?

RB

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Re: [MBZ] Source for Bumper Cover

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Yikes!  Never saw that before!

Larry

On 10/10/2014 8:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, Larry!

I checked them out and it was a good deal - until shipping got added! They 
wanted more for shipping than the bumper cover cost!

Bumper cover - $130
Shipping - $175

Ouch!

It was worth a shot. I appreciate the suggestion.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 10, 2014, at 8:02 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Hi Dan,
you didn't mention what year your S420 is - but I looked at Rockauto.com and they 
have them for a 96 w/o Parktronic.   They also offer several types  
manufacturers.

LarryT
91 300D


On 10/9/2014 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Need a front bumper cover for the S420.  I've seen a few on eBay, but they all have the 
Parktronic sensor holes in them.  None of the local recyclers have any, 
either, although for as cheap as these appear to be I would just as well spend the money 
on a new (aftemarket) one, which appear to be around $175-$200.

Any suggestions?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Bumper Cover

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Have you checked local PnP?   No shipping there ;-)  I know there's 1 or 
2 140s at our local recycle center but if the bumpers are connected as 
tightly as the door handle it's probably more than I could do in a 
grassy/muddy field.  ;-)There's always Potomac - although they 
always seemed high whenever I checked them


Larry
On 10/10/2014 8:45 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Thanks, Larry!

I checked them out and it was a good deal - until shipping got added! They 
wanted more for shipping than the bumper cover cost!

Bumper cover - $130
Shipping - $175

Ouch!

It was worth a shot. I appreciate the suggestion.

Dan

Sent from my iPad


On Oct 10, 2014, at 8:02 AM, LarryT via Mercedes mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:

Hi Dan,
you didn't mention what year your S420 is - but I looked at Rockauto.com and they 
have them for a 96 w/o Parktronic.   They also offer several types  
manufacturers.

LarryT
91 300D


On 10/9/2014 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
Need a front bumper cover for the S420.  I've seen a few on eBay, but they all have the 
Parktronic sensor holes in them.  None of the local recyclers have any, 
either, although for as cheap as these appear to be I would just as well spend the money 
on a new (aftemarket) one, which appear to be around $175-$200.

Any suggestions?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Source for Bumper Cover

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Hi Dan,
you didn't mention what year your S420 is - but I looked at Rockauto.com 
and they have them for a 96 w/o Parktronic.   They also offer several 
types  manufacturers.


LarryT
91 300D

On 10/9/2014 11:49 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:

Need a front bumper cover for the S420.  I've seen a few on eBay, but they all have the 
Parktronic sensor holes in them.  None of the local recyclers have any, 
either, although for as cheap as these appear to be I would just as well spend the money 
on a new (aftemarket) one, which appear to be around $175-$200.

Any suggestions?

Dan
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Re: [MBZ] Surgery

[LarryT via Mercedes]

Percocet is Oxycodone usually mixed with tylanol as is 10/325 - 10mg 
oxycodone and 325 mg acetaminophen.   I've been taking it for 15 years 
or so...  a few years back we dropped the acetaminophen because it can 
cause liver problems when taken long term.


LarryT
91 300D

On 10/7/2014 12:36 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:
Oxycontin (aka hillbilly heroin) or in a mix with acetominophen, 
APAP.  Percocet might also be some compound of it, I don't recall.


--R


On 10/7/14 11:33 AM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes wrote:

What is the common name for hydrocodone ?  Is it Percocet??

On Tue, Oct 7, 2014 at 4:56 AM, Mitch Haley via Mercedes 
mercedes@okiebenz.com wrote:


Rich Thomas via Mercedes wrote:


You have to stay ahead of the pain. Follow the doc's orders as to how
often and how much.  If you don't take the meds the pain will get a 
LOT

worse then you will be playing catch-up which is not pleasant.


After the pills wore off, I found out that hydrocodone does make a
difference.
They just timed it so that the pills took over as the anesthesia 
wore off
so I didn't notice any benefit from the first dose. I took another 
dose as
soon as allowed at 6:30pm. That's long gone, and it hurts now, but 
not as
bad as it did yesterday on drugs, so I think I'm OK without it now. 
Can't

drive with the pills, but probably can't drive today anyway.

Mitch.

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