Re: [MBZ] Squawk
..I need to build one of those to see what my transponder is sending out! It's not connected to a GPS and is not pre-programmed so I don't see how it can send my tail number. Should just be the squawk code and altitude... You provided your N-Number when the controller issued the code. Except for 1200, 7700 etc. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Skagit River bridge
Use google maps to see this bridge accident from earlier today at Skagit River. The bridge is already gone at google maps. Interesting... mao.. This morning's TV coverage of this event was overrun with all the state and local politicians rushing to the scene to offer their unqualified opinions. Smarmy. All I want to hear is if the steel has been ordered and the cranes are on the way to clear the debris and build a replacement. As of today, a crowd of highway department guys in yellow hardhats and vests peering over the edges. Lots of pickups and clipboards, also. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] newer
...I find the newer cars easier to work on and maintain Please elaborate. Is that because they have better diagnostics, or, being newer, have less failures to correct?... They do have better diagnostics plus they do have fewer failures. On the MBWorld website where there is a large base of W204 owners, there are now more and more cars that have passed 100K miles with only normal service. Right now, the big failures ($$) are the Electronic Ignition Module in the early cars (from 2008, all models) which is the unit that unlocks the steering column when the key is inserted. When it fails the car is flatbedded to a dealer for a minimum $1K bill. This is NOT a diy repair. Yes, this is an electronic failure where the key and key slot fail to communicate. The other one in W204s is taillights getting dim which turns out to be the undersized single taillight ground wire melting because the original spec was inadequate. There is a repair kit for this or an owner can bridge in a heavier wire in the connecter. Mine is OK so far, perhaps because I have upgraded to the 2012 LED taillights, requiring reprogramming the rear SAM. There have been more than a few 4-Matic trans leaks, I think where the FWD shaft exits the RF corner of the trans. The 7-speed automatic and related FWD bits now share one case. All in all, these mostly warranty repairs add up to far fewer than in any of the last four new MBs I have owned. BTW, my 1985 190E 2.3 was the all time warranty queen and the dealers hated them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] foil
...What I want to do is to put the fluffy felt side glued onto the hood and the foil side to the engine. Will the foil create a short circuit on the battery side. What other issues should I be looking out for? Maybe trim some of the foil in problem areas?.. ...The foil side does indeed face the engine to reflect heat and save the paint. The foil is removed in areas of close contact such as over a Turbo if its really close. Doesn't the car have a battery cover? Both of my cars do. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] post 1996 DIY
I'd like to know too. Maybe this just applies to scheduled maintenance?... Better define scheduled. My 2008 is no different than any of the previous years I have owned. Exceptions will be electronic items indentified by OBD2. Also, the 7-speed automatic which is now serviced at each 37.5K miles with it's own fluid and with no dipstick, the level on a refill is determined by the temp of the fluid. Oil is synthetic and MB says 10K is fine between changes although I do it sooner with my Topsider sucker. Things like oil changes and all filters (oil, air, cabin air) are all done by me. Brake pads are easier now and last much longer, many owners getting more than 50K before a change and many are switching over to ceramics which eliminate the black dust with no reduction in brake performance. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the missing
Sorry to hear about the problems, but glad to hear that you made it through. The more I hear about hospital experiences, the more I think that we have great medical care in this country, if they don't kill you first. -- OK Don.. Thank you for the kind thoughts. Today was to be the day of the second stent installation but everything was cancelled because of a recurrence of the UTI Sunday and I've been bedbound until today. Sometimes a guy just can't catch a break, to coin phrase. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] THE MISSING
Ditto. Best wishes and here's hoping you get to detailing the C-class sooner rather than later. What's the point of life, after all, if you can't mess around with old cars? Alex.. Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the replacement of the RF tire (Bridgestone DW, new last fall, now with a blown out sidewall) and repair of the gouged 18X8 AMG wheel which occured when I hit a city owned snow chuckhole on 2/22. After dark, 37 degrees and nobody around. I got the spare on with the usual difficulty since the jack had never been out of the spare tire well. I thought I was faced with a wheel replacement ($1250) but it looks like my dealer's wheel guy can fix it since it's so close to the edge. I've had one of my 17 winter tires (OE wheels) on the car so I could drive it. The 28 1/2 year old 944 needs a little dusting off too but it's been on a battery maintainer since last September so it's mostly ready to fire up. You are right, spending time messing with the cars is is time well spent. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the missing
...Hang in there, Roger, we're all pulling for you. Gerry... Thank you, Red Green. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] memory of the missing
...Thanks. I can hardly bear to look at. My first car task will be the replacement of the RF tire (Bridgestone DW, new last fall, now with a blown out sidewall) Continental DW. From Tire rack. I hate Contis but these are very different. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the missing
.Yeah, does anyone know what happened to Woger? Dan On May 9, 2013, at 3:17 PM, clay wrote: Roger has gone missing. He is no spring chicken and I have not seen him since summer. clay. My absence since 2/22/13 has not been due to any actions, disputes or anything else here so credit can be taken The fact is that I have been among the missing because of a colossal health crisis that very nearly resulted in my death. After 12 years my cancer has returned for which I am now under re-treatment. I've had two surgeries, the second of which ended up causing a huge problem and the first of two two week hospital stays (at Swedish First Hill/Seattle) and both of which started as UTIs and progressed to near septicemia. After the first one where I was declared cured and discharged to a two week rehab center stay, one week later it all came back and I was admitted to the ER with a 103.3 temp for which someone my age is a very big deal. I was headed down the plughole but after being connected to everyline in the building and being seen by a parade of specialists, after two more weeks I was once again sent to the same rehab center for another two week stay. The most awful thing about this adventure is that since 2/23 I have been cursed with an indwelling catheter which has effectively ended my former life for the time being. So, I've missed all the MBCA and PCA events which I always attend. But, there is a fix for this which is called a Suprapubic catheter (google it) which will eliminate the urinary catheter and end the infections that have made life hell for the last three months. But since I had some heart damage during the last infection I am required to get a surgical clearance from my Cardiologist first. So. I overnighted last night in the hospital after the installallation of the first of two stents to open up some blockages I didn't know I had. No after effects at all except from lying on the table in a cold room for three hours while wires etc where maneuvered around in my main pump and I feel quite normal. The wrist entry was used instead of the groin entry which made things easier for me. When I finally logged on to check emails there were 742 in my inbox and I've been deleting most of them but there are too many to delete all at once which I hoped to do. RLE I am not done with this yet but when is finished to the point that I can become active again I am looking forward to cleaning up my C300 which has not had a bath since late February. The annual MBCA car show is in August and I hope I can participate. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fleece
..The fleece filter is not an issue for an M103 engine that I am aware of. I use Mann or Hengst, whatever the Q supplies... As I said, use of the fleece filter is part of the long interval change. I also don't like 10K changes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] change intervals
So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan Part of the long change interval (10K can be used) is using the correct fleece filter which MB dealers use. I change my M1 0W-40 at 5000 miles, even with the correct filter, because I do a lot of short trips AND it makes me feel good. I buy it by the case when it's on sale and I buy my fleece filters in the aftermarket. Using my Topsider also cuts costs down to about $60 per change` ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Change intervals 2
...So for those of you who are doing Mobil1 in a gasser, what kind if change intervals are you running. 5000? 7500? Thanks, Dan.. Part of the long change interval (10K can be used) is using the correct fleece filter which MB dealers use. I change my M1 0W-40 at 5000 miles, even with the correct filter, because I do a lot of short trips AND it makes me feel good. I buy it by the case when it's on sale and I buy my fleece filters in the aftermarket. Using my Topsider also cuts costs down to about $60 per change. I would call Exxon/Mobil for their opinion about long intervals if paper filters are being used. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Options
...My '83 240D was ordered and then picked up in Germany. It has mechanical AC and heat, mechanical windows, stick shift transmission, and beige MBtex plastic upholstery. Would this be a standard optional package, or did the buyer specify each item, I wonder?.. The only extra cost item on this particular car is the AC. A California uncle bought the same car for factory delivery and it was a real stripper. No sunroof or rear speakers, windup windows. Possible the radio was extra cost along with the manual AC. But if you bought a 300D (I did) you got ACC (feeble), power windows, sunroof, Auto trans (jerky as hell) and rear speakers, even. All built into the price, I think. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Coker
...That would run $2500 and still not on the rims.. A mere detail. A lot of cars came stock with XWXs and they don't look right on other brands. Yes, they are expensive. If you don't know what an XWX looks like, find something on line. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] XWX
..Then there are these: http://www.cokertire.com/205-70vr14-vredestein-sprint-classic.html Which you can get for closer to $200 from another dealer... People who want XWXs want them for their appearance and because they were OE on many cars in the late '60s. As one example, my friend CB ordered a set for his Ferrari 330GTC because they were OE on that model and make the car look right. Price didn't come into it and that's why people buy replicas in the first place. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the right tires
...Tell me you've at least written to the tire makers? Clearly whining at us isn't going to get tires made. You need to go to people who already make tires, try their Facebook pages... Why not contact Coker Tire and have them run up a set of replica XWXs and be done with it? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Nokian
...I concur with Jim Cathey about Nokians. We are running Nokian WRG2s on our '95 E320 year round... I agree. I bought a set of WRG2s back in 2007 to mount on my 2WD C300's unattractive OE wheels and I put those wheels on when snow is in the forecast. Having used Blizzaks previously, it was obvious that the Nokians are superior. Unlike the Blizzaks, the Nokians are quieter and have better wet/dry traction and can be a year-round tire. I think it's a big mistake to buy winter tires based on price alone, particularly when they are on their own set of wheels. Of the three tires mentioned, the Conti DWS has had good reviews in the tire tests. Other Contis (SuperContact etc) have poor reputations for noise, ride quality and a sidewall failures. But they are cheap and for some unknown reason are OE by Mercedes. I removed mine before delivery of my present car and was lucky to get rid of them on CraigsList. But, Conti has a newish tire called the DW (not for winter) which has had excellent reviews so I took a chance on a set for my 18 AMGs and found them to be quiet and smooth riding, better than the Bridgestone RE-050A PPs I had fitted when the car was new. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] coolant
G05 is the genuine stuff, it's exactly the same. The new blue stuff is different I guess.. The current 15 year coolant (my 2008 C300 uses this) has to be different than the previous GO-5 compatible stuff. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dopey
...How many people on digest? How often do they contribute? Perhaps a new rule that those on digest can't post, then you can raise the message size?.. A crackpot idea. I have been on digest forever and I am not the one whose messages need false headers to get through or allof the other problems I read about here. If you have a problem, fix it on your end. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Guh-nomes
That, plus the control of power was an on-off switch. Kind of an early plus width modulation, now that I think about it. Full power at all times, ignition off and on to modulate power. In flight, it was bu-silence-buzzz. And this was a good idea? The few I've seen at air shows are all over the sky trying to keep it straight and level. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Compressors
...I've never seen an automotive compressor that wasn't reciprocating. The number and type of pistons vary, as does the rotary/reciprocating conversion mechanism, but there are still pistons. 10, in the case of our Nippondensos. Look under the hood of any MB built in the last 12 years or so. Clutchless swashplate compressors. My 2001 and 2008 were so equipped. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] windshield lablels
...There were two versions, too. A Mercedes-Benz Product (or something to that effect) and a Gottlieb Daimler one... The old ones were white labels. The present ones are clear. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] rotary?
...Well, rotary aircraft engines are more efficient than recip engines. That's why most of the commercial and military aircraft engines are jets... I think the last (and only) rotary was built in WW1. Not a success. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The 140
...A bit complicated, but the last of the great over-engineered MBs. These cars have piqued my interest the last few years. Any pics?.. I think you are getting a little carried away here. The early 140 program (1992) was so overbudget and the cars were such warranty nightmares and cost MB so much money in fixes that the 140 Chief Engineer was banished to run a truck plant in Malaysia. What exactly does over engineered mean, anyway? To me it means trouble free with no corner cutting in design or manufacturing. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OUT OF CONTROL?
...Is that from hitler list?.. I don't recall anything like that from Mr Hilter's list and I was on it early on before he stole it from Easley who wouldn't have permitted any dustups. The original MB list (1995-ish?) did have some exciting moments when Cookies was around. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Accumulators
..I did not take into account that new cars are sold with garbage battery. No need to have another garbage battery go in... I don't think they are. Kia or Hyundai very likely buy their batteries by the millions and on average likely last a long time. Some don't. My 2008 C300's production date was Sept 2007 and it's AGM battery is still operating normally. One of these days it won't be and likely with no warning. That's what happened with my 2001 C320. One morning it wouldn't crank fast enough to start so I gave it a one hour charge, got it going and headed to the dealer for a replacement. $110 or so installed, as I recall. With a warranty. Long ago I did get ten years out of a Sears Diehard in my 914-6 and when it became slow to crank after a month of inactivity, I replaced it. The original German battery in my '78 300D failed at just under four years so it got a Sears battery which lasted another five years when I sold it. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] the subject line
..My only request would be to keep the subject line relevant... This has been a problem since dirt was invented. Those who can't be bothered to change the subject line just don't care. In fact, our moderator is one of the biggest offenders and has been taken to task about it countless times but he just doesn't give a damn. Quotes of quotes of quotes is another thing which will never change. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] chatter
..If all we wanted was MBZ chatter, we could hook up with the ritter list.. You must be joking. Mr. Hilter's list is at least 75% twaddle. That's non-MB. I'll never forget Hank's 1400 word post on wood fences. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] social
...Hi Kaleb, You have a group of people who want to talk about all sorts of subjects other than Mercedes. Why don't you set up a Mercedes Social List for discussion only and let the members of the group enforce the Mercedes Repair list for Mercedes discussions only?.. Won't work. Some years back when Obama was running for the first time and banned was flooded with political dreck Kaleb started Banned Lite and directed that the political stuff move there. Did not happen because people didn't think there was a problem even though there certainly was. Now this list has turned into a pro-gun discussion. No, not a discussion, but just repeated posts of the same subject with no new ideas. And that's how the pro-Obama posts went. What I would like to know is, has even one person changed their opinions on these subjects because of the avalanche of posts? I doubt it very much. I haven't seen one new idea. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Non MB?
...When a member keeps posting non-Mercedes items on the Mercedes list, he needs to be banned from that list after several warnings, but not the social list... So no more stuff about dogde and aerostars (I'm for that) and maybe just limit it to Diesels only. Yes indeedy, a perfect world. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aerostar
...For a work vehicle it was great. Lousy as a passenger vehicle, IMHO... Understeered like a pig. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] talk radio
...Does anyone remember the beginning of talk radio and Rush Limbaugh?.. Talk radio began in the '60s and had nothing to do with Limbaugh and his ilk. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] banished
Clay'd: Was banned from the hitler list by Stu. As was I. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sailplane over nuke plant
...4/0811 ...SPECIAL NOTICE... THIS IS A RESTATEMENT OF A PREVIOUSLY ISSUED ADVISORY NOTICE. IN THE INTEREST OF NATIONAL SECURITY AND TO THE EXTENT PRACTICABLE, PILOTS ARE STRONGLY ADVISED TO AVOID THE AIRSPACE ABOVE, OR IN PROXIMITY TO SUCH SITES AS POWER PLANTS (NUCLEAR, HYDRO-ELECTRIC, OR COAL), DAMS, REFINERIES, INDUSTRIAL COMPLEXES, MILITARY FACILITIES AND OTHER SIMILAR FACILITIES. PILOTS SHOULD NOT CIRCLE AS TO LOITER IN THE VICINITY OVER THESE TYPES OF FACILITIES. WIE UNTIL UFN.. Nothing here prohibits overflights. What previously posted extracts of the information did not include was that the head of the local yokels (Sheriffs) suggested shooting down the sailplane as it approached the airport for landing. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] old SD
...This is just wrong on so many levels... Why? It's just an old worn out car, not a priceless artifact in the Louvre. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] batts
...This does not have the indications of bad batteries, which I have seen before because I put new batteries in it on 21 Nov 2012. Nevertheless, I unplugged it, opened it up, and removed the batteries. Both packs measure 26.12 VDC... First of all, measuring battery voltage with no load is quite meaningless. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Absolutely wonderful
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Re: [MBZ] stations
...So you've been taking pictures of petrol stations for a while then? Hendrik who goes to service stations and gets just about zero service... Right. With my view camera. And no service is what I want because of possible damage by a pump jockey. Which is why I never buy gas in Oregon because the customer can't pump his own. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 924s
..Your best would be to cross reference Bosch part numbers. For instance Rogers favourite car, the 944 uses an Audi/VW engine, so you can go to Porsche to get bits or go to VW and get the same bits in a VW box... You are thinking of the wretched 924. The 944/968 use Porsche designed engines, entirely different and for good reason. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Maui being an island and all...
..Responding to Hendrik's wish, I would choose the road to Maui as the course... Hana? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 50 CAR PORSCHE COLLECTION
In re: Wilton's museum visit last week, I sent an email to my friend PR asking if this might be the people he sold his '67 911S to and here is his reply Roger, It was the Ingram Collection in North Carolina. You know the son as The Road Scholars and The Air Cooled Guys companies. They are the best early Porsche restoration people in the country today by winning everywhere and the factory is sending them cars to restore for the personal collections of the family. Cam and his girlfriend were invited for Peter's (Porsche) 70th birthday and the company paid their way, etc. They were one of the very few that were from the US that were not execs in the company. They are also brokers now on Porsches. It is Cam Ingram and Kevin Watts that own the above companies. They are also personal friends and I sometime advise Cam on earlies (ex. engine finishes on the Gmund coupe for Peter in 2011) and help Kevin from time to time. Right now he is helping me find a 993 that is in excellent shape for a driver for me. However, the father Bob Imgram and his wife have the collection of around 50+ cars along with other things in a private museum that is excellent in a building they built for the purpose. All are either extremely low miles and/or top winners in the country. They primarily collect Porsches (Bob) and Ferraris (wife), but have others as well. They were the ones that brought those 16+ high end cars to the Charlotte Parade. Wealth isn't even the word here. It is old money down south. Paul ___ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime scolds
...Just getting a bit sick of the constant bickering he seems to be involved in... Hmm. Didn't you just last week get yourself into a big flap on Banned and stomp off in a snit, quitting the list? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesels at altitude
..How would a NA Diesel run up here at 5000FT altitude.. Terrible. In 1978 I drove my new 300D to Aspen Co and it was noisy and slooow. Driving up to the top of the condos at Snowmass on the heated concrete road it was full throttle first gear 3mph. Even in Reno at 4400 ft it was running too rich. Don't hang your hat on the barometric cell adjustment. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 and rust
...Thats pretty awesome, but no reason you can't go there with a rear wheel drive car! They're designed and tested to handle far worse than that... Start paying attention. Just yesterday I was corrected firmly in re: W210 rusting spring perches and was triumphantly informed that only the 2WD versions have that problem. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] washers
..That brings to mind a question: when are the headlight washers on a W124 supposed to operate?.. The old way was, the head or parking lights must be on and when the windshield washer is activated, the headlight washers give two swipes and two squirts. That uses a lot of fluid so the newer cars like mine only squirt the headlights (no wipers anymore) every tenth time the windshield washer is used. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The Collection
..BTW, Tim C., do you know 'bout the warehouse in Durham containing the 50 rare and pristine Porsches?.. I believe that's the Collection (not the full and correct name) that is selectively buying up cars from all over the country. My friend Paul R. sold his beige 1967 911S Coupe to him last summer for $165K. He was the original owner. He is thinning out his collection and has previously sold his Bugatti Atalante and a few '60s era Porsches for big prices. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Jaime's 220D
How do brake pads get bent like that? Amazing. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 10 Cars You Can Bet Will Be Classics
Nonsense. There is a big difference between just plain old, collectible to a narrow group, and a real classic. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Embry-Riddle
...I have a good friend whose son has his B.A. in civil engineering from the University of South Florida and a Masters in the same from Embry-Riddle. Both degrees had a focus in transportation. He also holds a Florida EIT license (engineering intern).. I thought Embry-Riddle students planned to go into Avation. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] W210 wagon
The seller was very willing to let me take it to a mechanic which I am arranging for Monday. I was concerned about known issues for that year and model (ie transmission, head gasket etc.) Should I be concerned about major maintenance work needed at 97K like timing belt. In addition is that a reasonable price if everything checks out. I need to invest in new tires so that cost has to be condidered too. While I am asking what tires would you suggest if I get the car?.. Since it's a W210, rust is a designed in feature. Have the front spring perches examined for it. The 5-speed auto needs fluid changes on schedule but beyond that they don't have a bigfailure history. Since the engine is a V-6, the head gasket failures of the older inline sixes are no longer an issue. The engine uses chains to drive the cams and single balance shaft. The spark plug change interval is 100K miles and there are two per cylinder. Twelve plugs, twelve coil packs. Expect about 20mpg around town and the high twenties on the interstate. On premium gas, of course. BTW, this engine should use Mobil 1 0W40 according to MB and so extended change intervals up to 10K miles are OK. My 2001 C320 also used this engine and few of it's problems involved the engine. Since it's a wagon, cheaping out on tires is not a good idea because of load carrying. As has been pointed out already, a pre-purchase inspection by a qualified shop is an absolute must. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atalantes
...Bugatti Atlantic coupe? Are you sure? Only four were built. Ralph Lauren owns one. One sold about two years ago for around 40 million dollars!.. I had seen the car in his garage here in Seattle and he sold it to someone in the UK who didn't pay so he had to go over there and collect. The problem with the car was the color combination which was two tone gray whioch reduced it's value a bit but I think it sold for $1.6 mil at the time. Just today I was glancing at some photos of Bill Harrah's Atalante taken at Pebble Beach long ago. His new bride (50 years or so younger as I recall) is also in the photos. The car was two shades of yellow. He died later that year due to a heart problem. I have never heard the number of four produced before. At another time at the Pebble Beach Concours, every remaining Royale was present in front of the club house, not judged but on display. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Atalante production numbers
From Wikipedia: PHOTO The Bugatti Type 57S Atalante number 57502 is one of a batch of rare French sports coupe automobiles built in 1937 by the Bugatti company, a version of the Bugatti Type 57. Of the 710 Type 57 cars built, only 43 were Type 57S and only 17 of those were produced with the in-house Bugatti Atalante coupe body style (termed coachwork), (not to be confused with the Type 57 Atlantic body). RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Atalante/Atlantic?
...Ok. So Atalante must be different from Atlantic. I don't think so. What does Google have to say about it? Autoweek recently reported on a big Concours someplace and they used the name Atlantic but the car wasn't shown. Or was it? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Comand
...I am not sure I know what comand climate control is. Are there different types of climate control with different models? Sorry if its a dumb question... Comand was MB's first version navigation system and perhaps the HVAC functions were displayed on the screen. Jaime knows all about this. As a nav system, it was DVD based and far from user friendly. An improved (very slightly) version showed up in the W211 but was still inferior to the competition's.. My 2008 W204's Comand (part of the Multimedia Package) is much better but has already been replaced by something else in the 2012 models. MB is still playing catch-up. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Iowa speaks
...Man, you are vicious! Wrong twice within a few minutes. Woger is going to have a meltdown... So you are back.You have been laying low since your ass got kicked in re: MTBE. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 57SC
..So it looks like the Bugatti Type 57SC is the ultra rare one. The prototype which was referred to as the aerolithe no longer exists. Legend has that it was built from magnesium which is why the top of the car had a riveted spine- you can't weld magnesium. The only three production models ever built were made of aluminum as its much easier to work. They were named Elektron coupes. Electron meaning magnesium. The cars retained the riveted spine for aesthetic reasons. These cars are incredible. Perhaps, the most beautiful car ever built! Ah yes, that one. Not the plain Jane entry level car my friend owned. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] 2WD W210s stay off this Norwegian coastal road.
http://www.youtube.com/embed/4T4vc1QqiPM RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Gassing up
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Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 86, Issue 17
Best I ever got on the 280 SE 4.5 was 17 on the highway, typically in town it was 14 at best, as low as 11 Just like my '73 450SE. Of course, gas was a wee bit cheaper in the mid-'70s. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] block heaters
...Does it hurt to keep the block heater plugged in for a week while not running the car? .. You can leave it plugged in as long as you can keep paying the electric bill. Think Yukon Territory. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] spray on chrome
...And now I want to use that for my next car finish... Restoring tail light reflectors comes to mind. No, rattle can silver paint does not work. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] E-15
http://theexpiredmeter.com/2012/12/aaa-warns-drivers-of-potential-problems-with-e15-fuel/ RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Spray on chrome
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[MBZ] Early Grumman aircraft
http://www.warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3t=13327; sid=4d1befb1873f7c69bb41dbffe8993852 More pictures on following pages accessed at lower right. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beignets
Back in the days when I was a member of PCA's National Competition Rules Committee, we often held our annual meeting in Boulder and breakfasted at a frenchy sort of restaurant downtown. A plate or two of fresh hot Beignets were always served as sort of a breakfast appetizer. I had never heard of them since they were something not seen out my way. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Most valuable
...Sorry Roger, Chairman Mao beat you by 2 hours and 30 minutes. Anyway enjoy all the car care products Santa will leave in the boot of the C300 Fine with me. Coincidentally, I received a $100 gift certificate from Griots's for Christmas and don't need anything right now so I think I'll buy myself one of their roll around chairs on casters which has a shelf underneath. Only 99 bucks. Just right for swapping wheels and buffing the doors and lower panels later on next year. Kneeling on the concrete floor is no working for me. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Wolwo smokers
..I seem to recall reading that Volvo used Audi diesel engines and that the engines tended to be troublesome. Gerry VW truck engines, i do believe. Very noisy. Audi diesels are inline 4s or V-6s which are now very good. Some friends have a new Porsche Cayenne diesel which uses the Audi V-6 Turbo diesel which has been tweaked for more power. Expensive, just like all Porsches. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] knees
..Kneeling does me in, too. When I have to work on a server at work that's below about section 22/24 in a rack I get a step stool to sit on. If I don't my right knee will remind me what I had been doing for a day or two afterwards. Following the big knee injury, the right one is now cobalt steel and cross-linked polyethylene and there is little tissue between the outside and the inside. Kneeling is out. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Driving the world's most valuable car
http://www.kidston.com/kidston-news-item/152/Driving-The-Worlds-Most-Valuable-Car:-The-Mercedes-Benz-300SLR-'Uhlenhaut'-Coupe RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] not thinking
..I consider this stupidity on the part of the owners. My car is parked inside, but my kid's cars are always parked outside, but locked... Another example of brain fade is leaving a garage door opener in a vehicle outside, locked or not. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MTBE
...Rog, are you just glossing over however, it is likely that the chemical has been used in gasoline for other purposes in the state.?.. Can you explain this sentence? I can't. What other purposes since they say there is only one documented use as motor fuel etc Would this mean that a million gallons was treated or one tank for test purposes. And when they say it is likely it looks like a WAG with no explanation. ...Also, there's all the MBTE contaminated sites in King County, where did the MTBE come from if not motor fuel?... Is this stuff used for purposes other than motor fuel additive? The report leaves out any proof of anything useful. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Plates
...In South Carolina, given a license plate number, any citizen can go online to the state tax system, find out name address... You aren't approving this, I hope. So some assault weapon owner who thinks he was wronged by you in traffic can then come to your house and give it the Bushmaster treatment at 3AM. Freedom of information, do it yourself style. In this state, not even a cop can access that info from NCIC without cause as it should be. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Muslim killer
..Then hang 'im. Well, after a fair trial, anyway... What do they with military personnel after the court marshal? Leavenworth? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] defense
...I wonder what it has in terms of defense mechanisms?.. I would think it is at least equal to Air Force One which is not exactly a sitting duck. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Another capital crime
TOP STORY: Marine Pleads Guilty in Urinating on Taliban Case A Marine general who decided to court-martial a Marine for urinating on the bodies of dead Taliban fighters and posing for pictures with them in Afghanistan will scale back the punishment announced Thursday by a military judge. More... http://tracking.military.com/cgi-bin/outlog.cgi?url=http://www.military.com/ daily-news/2012/12/21/marine-pleads-guilty-in-urination-case.html?ESRC=eb.nl code=121221DEBH01 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Justice
http://www.military.com/video/specialties-and-personnel/snipers/very-clear-fsa-sniper-attack-in-syria/2048305616001/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] plates
...I see a lot of folks block out the license plates in the pics when selling a car. Why? Who cares if someone knows your tag #? What would someone do with it? Don't they realize they drive around showing it to strangers everywhere they go? Seems paranoid to me... So true. It's absolutely pointless. My car has only the personalized rear plate (two required but I'm a scofflaw) and is so unusual that I have to explain it at least once weekly and I don't care. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Ft Hood
http://www.military.com/topics/nidal-hasan __ Court to Hear Fort Hood Suspect's Shaving Appeal Oct 03, 2012 FORT HOOD, Texas - A military appeals court wants to hear oral arguments before deciding if the Army psychiatrist charged in the Fort Hood shooting rampage can be forcibly shaved before his murder trial. Fort Hood released the decision late Tuesday from the Army Court of Criminal Appeals. Maj. Nidal Hasan says he grew a beard because his Muslim faith requires it, despite the Army's ban on beards. He is appealing the trial judge's order that he be forcibly shaved, which his attorneys say violates his right to practice his religion without substantial government intrusion. The appeals court, which is on Fort Belvoir in northern Virginia, will hear from prosecutors and defense attorneys Oct. 11. Hasan faces the death penalty if convicted in the 2009 shootings that killed 13 people at the Texas post. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MTBE in Washington?
Old Dieselhead, in his continued attempts (pitiful, really) to counter every single statement I make here with his quick-draw facts once again stumbles by failing to read his own references. And him a PHD, to boot. This all dates back a few years when I stated my scorn for ethanol in gasoline.. This time I claimed that MTBE had never been used in gasoline here. His triumphant post: ...Appalling lack of knowledge Read this report regarding the state of washington, where according to woger, MTBE was never used: https://fortress.wa.gov/ecy/publications/publications/0009054.pdf See page 7 table. It shows half (49.5%) of the MTBE contaminated sites are in King county. (that is seattle) Well, first of all there is no table on page 7 but the real problem is that he didn't read the paragraph (from P7) below. Though the use of MTBE is not prohibited, the chemical has not been used as an oxygenate in Washington as extensively as it has been in other states. Well, I guess that's a fair statement since it says nothing much. There is only one documented use of MTBE as a fuel oxygenate in Washington ; however, it is likely that the chemical has been used in gasoline for other purposes in the state. Only one documented use. And what was that? This report, a glowing example of a government grant if I've ever seen one, does not say MTBE was in Washington's gasoline at it's hundreds, perhaps thousands of retail gas stations used by the public. And then at the end of his packed-with-facts report, he again goes off the rails again with another rant about the blessings of ethanol. What I'd like to know is where are all these leaking underground tanks of MTBE and how did they get there and for what purpose? Should I get out my tinfoil hat? I could also be ready for the Mayan end of the world coming up. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tar remover
How can I get this stuff off without damaging things?... 3M adhesive remover. Doesn't leave a stink or mess. Not expensive. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] MTBE???
...Who inhales MTBE laden gasoline fumes, and prefers that over distilled corn alcohol.. Your appalling lack of knowledge once again shows it's ugly corn fed head. Find me a state that uses MTBE. Washington never has. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] dirty cover
...The 124 cover was a basic outside cover that breathed as needed. I could not give it an initial wash, as it was too large to fit in the local laundromat machines... The coin-op laundry (still there?) at 55th and 25th has a rug washer machine plus a big dryer that I've used for my car cover. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] bellies
...I think one of its functions is to keep underhood noise under the hood... True. Keeps the engine racket from reflecting off the pavement. The other reason is improved AC operation in slow traffic. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Suzuki
Why did they take their Ford to Suzuki?.. Not to mention that Suzuki is belly up in the US. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Boat launch
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Re: [MBZ] Rods bending
...And now they have a new S350 TD for 2012 and 13. Guess they didn't learn!.. What does that old inline six diesel have to do with the newish 3.5 V-6 Diesel? RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 3.5
..My point was aimed at branding, not engines. BTW, it is a 3 litre engine, not a 3.5. According to what I read and the dealer says, the 265hp Bluetec is a 3.5 and has been in use in Europe for a few years. The Bluetec introduced here in 2007 was indeed a 3.0, despite being labeled 320, at least in the W211. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Nobody cares department
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Re: [MBZ] modern power
It was Snook'd: If you get the 3.5 V6, it has 271 HP. (that surprises me!) And MB's 3.5 DI V-6 is now at 302hp. Plus a flex-fuel version for 2013 for the ML GL, not to say you can find E85 anyplace. The newish 3.5 Bluetec Diesel for the ML GL is at 265hp. Even the little 1.8 turbo four (Buyer's Remorse Version) is at just over 200hp. MB is working hard to meet the Obama gas consumption dreams. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GTO
...I would take a 66 GTO or SS396 any day. Who cares about ricers when you got a V8 that sounds like that, and can spin those Polyglas radials until they melt?.. Everything but brakes. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beltless
...So, let me get this straight. One belt drives the alternator. That alternator provides the electricity to run the electric motors, which turn the oil pump, water pump, compressor and power steering pump. And this saves horse power, converting torque into electricity and then back into torque again? The number of belts has stayed the same, the number of electric motors has increased by four, so I don't think any weight has been saved... How do you figure the belt count is the same? The pumps are driven by electric motors. When I referred to pumps, that's plural. There is more than one oil pump and I don't know how many water pumps there may be because the technical descriptions of the engine are not detailed enough, yet. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inverted 924
...OK will save up money to buy poorly balanced rear engine version... Better check the prices. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beltless
...Obviously because the _average_ load is much lower than the peak supply that the mechanical-only is capable of supplying. Enough so that it more than pays for the efficiency losses due to the double conversionThink of the oil pressure relief valves, for example. My guess is the real savings are on water pump and cooling fan... The electric cooling fans are up front with the radiators and oil cooler. ...But we still have cost, space, weight, and reliability issue to deal with... You are seriously underestimating Porsche's Engineering Department. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] beltless
1. Let us assume that the engineers want at least 50psi oil pressure at cruising speed, and that takes about 1/2 gpm. Let us also assume that a mechanical drive oil pump puts out 1.5gpm at that engine speed, and the pressure relief valve is set for 90psi. So the mechanical pump has to pump 1.5gpm at 90psi, while the electric one pumps .5gpm at 50psi. There's room for a large percentage savings in pump power... Let us just throw all that out for this engine. All of it. I recently read a too-short article (don't recall where for the moment) superficially explaining how these electric oil pumps operate in this application. After considerable testing and development, it has been 2. A mechanical drive water pump has to pump enough water to cool under maximum cooling needs at all times, the thermostat controls how much actually goes through the engine. With our electric PWM drive water pump, we get rid of the thermostat and pump just enough water to cool the engine. I bet the savings are over 90% in the winter, and substantial in the summer except when you're climbing a hill with the A/C on or towing a heavy load. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Beltless, the rest of it
1. Let us assume that the engineers want at least 50psi oil pressure at cruising speed, and that takes about 1/2 gpm. Let us also assume that a mechanical drive oil pump puts out 1.5gpm at that engine speed, and the pressure relief valve is set for 90psi. So the mechanical pump has to pump 1.5gpm at 90psi, while the electric one pumps .5gpm at 50psi. There's room for a large percentage savings in pump power... Let us just throw all that out for this engine. All of it. I recently read a too-short article (don't recall where for the moment) superficially explaining how these electric oil pumps operate in this application. After considerable testing and development, it has been discovered that the oil pressure and flow requirements for these engines (and others, presumably) varies considerably during various operational phases. So, you don't need 50psi all the time except when the engine is really working and most of the time it's less, sometimes a lot less, just maintaining the oil cushion in the bearings. Depending, I suppose on engine temp, manifold pressure, throttle position etc. all sending signals to the ECU which then varies the oil pressure by some quick change method. This was found to save power which eventually translates into economy. Since this is a dry-sump engine, the separate larger scavenge pumps operate at higher speeds because they pump mostly foam back into the tank. 2. A mechanical drive water pump has to pump enough water to cool under maximum cooling needs at all times, the thermostat controls how much actually goes through the engine. With our electric PWM drive water pump, we get rid of the thermostat and pump just enough water to cool the engine. I bet the savings are over 90% in the winter, and substantial in the summer except when you're climbing a hill with the A/C on or towing a heavy load... The thermostats are now electronically variable (my C300 is this way) and the electric water pumps (back to the Porsche) move just enough water to maintain temps, working with the variable speed electric cooling fans. My C300 has one big variable speed electric fan behind the radiator and nothing else. No aux fans any more. The C-300's swash plate AC compressor (still belt driven but no clutch) pumps enough R-134 to cool the cabin and no more. This is all progress and seems to be reliable. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL SLC
...This is a parts car and only a parts car from my point of view. $6k for a new engine or rebuild, full exhaust, interior and center console controls are going to need expensive attention... Right on. I remember reading about somebody's restoration of those silly window slats years ago and it was a huge job. When this car is fixed up it still won't be worth anything. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Beltless
...Other than aircraft and stationary engines I can't think of any. Interesting question... It's the coming thing and whether it's going to be limited to high end cars is the question. The new Porsche direct injection 3.8 L 400 hp water cooled flat six in the 991 has only one belt which drives the alternator. The variable flow oil pumps (pressure and scavenge), variable flow water pumps and thermostats, power steering pump, and AC compressor (swash plate type) are all electric. Saves the hp to drive them thus improving fuel economy. Which trumps costs, apparently. MB's new 5.5 550hp Twin-Turbo V-8 uses the same technology and I would bet Audi has jumped on the same bandwagon. With that kind of power you can zip over to Costco in no time flat. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Mercedes Digest, Vol 85, Issue 13
...Speaking of the refreshed '14 E-classit looks like 4matic will finally be available on the BlueTEC (diesel) model as well, if the preliminary ordering info that was recently shown is anything to go by!.. The undisguised production model is shown in the 11/29 Auto motor und Sport. I read previously that every body panel except one has been changed. It's much more attractive with new lights front and rear. The 3.5 265hp Bluetec will be avaliable in the ML GL next year so maybe that engine will be available in the E. No spare tire, like all Bluetecs. I saw a '13 ML at my dealer this week and it's 3.5 DI 302hp engine is now E85 compatible. Heavily equipped at $61,500. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Inverted 924
..I am sure the purists will make the usual noises... Avoid 924s. All of them. RLE ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
