Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
not hard at all if you have the right equipment. I saw a report on German TV a couple of years ago where there was a thriving market for folks who would come to your house etc and reset the odometer to any reading you want ( and at the time is was not really illegal, one of those loopholes that was still on the books, I don't know if they've changed that yet ). they just come with a laptop, plug in and in a few minutes, the odometer reading is whatever you want it to be. They were showing how most of the low mileage used cars being sold overseas out of Germany had been reset. Enough to make you think twice about a late model used car out of Germany for sure. As easy as it was, I have no doubt the american used car crowd caught onto it a long time ago. -Robert Allan Streib wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I often wondered how many miles showed on the odometer when it went on the used car lot, cause they sure couldn't make much money at $20/day, unlimited mileage. I assume that today's digital odometers are harder to tamper with than the old mechanical ones? Or can somebody with a factory computer program reset the numbers? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: would you buy a rental car?
Enterprise is *supposed* to be real good at maintaining their vehicles, but I had to rent one of their compacts a couple of years ago in New Hampshire that only had about 10k miles on it and the thing was beat. At least most of the car places are better on keeping the scheduled maintnence up, even if they ignore some major repairs. I wouldn't buy anything from uhaul.Most of the independent agents don't want to have to fool with getting the reimbursement for oil etc and they send them out the door low on everything ( and if the engine seizes up, it's the customers fault for not keeping the fluids up...go figure ) I had to rent a truck with a v10 ford a while back that only had about 50k on it. the thing was over 3 qts low on oil leaving the agents yard when I stopped at a gas station down the street ( for some reason, they had me wait for 4 hours while they got the truck ready for a long trip and when I got there , all the fluids were low, the cab was dirty and they hadn't even bothered to empty the ash tray.which I can be fairly certain that they charged the last person for , for returning the vehicle dirty. I have no idea what the heck they did during that 4 hours.) About the only thing going for a used rental car is some come with warranties. -Robert Allan Streib wrote: Couple of people I know have been happy with cars they bought from Enterprise. I've also heard horror stories about the things people do to rental cars. Any opinions? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How much oil in A/C pump?
I sent you a PDF file that should answer your question. If the system is completely flushed, go by the total system capacity in the first section. -Robert archer wrote: I have a new Harrison A/C compressor from Rusty ready to go in an '83 240D. A tag says oil must be added but does not say how much or in which port it should be poured. There is no information on whether this is a Harrison R-4 (four cylinder), A-6 (six cylinder), DA-6 (six cylinder), or V-5 (five cylinder) compressor. According to the Haynes A/C manual, the amount of oil that should be added to each type of compressor is varied. The only ports this compressor has other than the hose ports is a plug held in by a snap ring and a brass plug with a green center screwed into the back of the compressor. If someone (Rusty?) can tell me which Harrison compressor this is, I can figure out the amount of oil necessary. Six ounces seems to be the usual amount. I plan to flush the lines, evaporator, and condenser; and replace the dryer. Haynes rule-of-thumb for adding oil to those components after flushing is: Condenser-one ounce Dryer-one ounce evaporator-three ounces Harrison A-6, R-4, or V-5 Two ounces plus the number of ounces drained from the old compressor. Does this sound right? Thanks, Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Aluminum
I was working in a machine shop then, and everytime someone brought a vega engine through the door, we'd tell them right off that the head was most likely going to be trashed beyond repair. Every one that came in was either warped or cracked, most were too far gone to fix, and it was generally cheaper and faster for the customer to just buy a new head. It's funny, as many of those things I fooled with, I can't , for the life of me, remember what they looked like. Was that some of that useless GM injected molded aluminum that looked like styrofoam? ---Robert Tom Hargrave wrote: I don't know the final solution but I do know that the Vega engines were produced at Tonawanda Engine, not far from where I lived at the time. Several family members worked at the factory my Uncle's neighbor was an Engineer at the facility. He stated that the issue was piston skirt wear and that GM actually solved the problem before selling to Mercedes. I know that GM re-designed the pistons but I don't remember what was actually done or my Uncle's neighbor did not go into that much detail. Remember, this was 30 years ago. By the time GM solved the wear issue, too much damage had been done to the brand and GM could not recover. The first MB engine produce with this technology was the 380, used in the late 80's early 90's SL's. Too bad the early 380's had single row timing chains. At the same time, independent shops started rebuilding out of warranty Vega engines with pressed in iron sleeves. I don't believe the sleeve was a GM design but I could be wrong. The Vega was actually a great daily driver and the body held up better than anything Ford put out in the 70's. South of Buffalo NY, where I lived, is the absolute worse place to own a car the 2 worse cars to own in the 70's were AMC and Ford (in that order). I've seen 3 year old Ford LTD's with holes in the fenders large enough to drop a soft ball through. A high school buddy's Ford wagon actually sagged in the middle on the way home from school one day. It was so bad that the doors would not open! The wagon was right at 5 years old. GM also screwed the US diesel market with their Olds based diesel. This was also a good engine by 1981 but just like the Vega, too much damage had been done to the brand and GM could not recover. But the damage caused by GM's diesel screw-up was much further reaching than the Vega screw-up. They hurt the entire diesel car market, including Mercedes, which is why you see few Mercedes diesels around from the mid-80's on. No-one in this country but die hard diesel fans wanted a diesel from anyone by the time the air cleared around GM's disaster. I owned a 1981 Pontiac Bonniville with the Olds diesel it was a wonderful car. I trashed the engine at 155,000 miles. I had replaced both radiator hoses did not properly tighten the bottom radiator clamp. The hose slipped off about 2 weeks later before I realized what was going on the engine was toast. My only complaint was that the filter would suddenly plug and when it did, you had very little power. Also, the filter was outrageously expensive. I used to keep a spare a set of wrenches in the trunk. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: archer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 10:58 PM To: Tom Hargrave Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aluminum RLE points out: That very same Reynolds Aluminum alloy was used in the Porsche 944, 968 and 928 not to mention Mercedes V-8s and the M112 V-6 in my C320. And the blocks last nearly forever unless neglected by the owner. What was the piston skirt solution used in those engines; pistons made of the same high silicon alloy? Gerry - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] The issue with the Vega was that the piston skirts would not hold up against the much harder exposed silicone. The skirts would wear to the point where the pistons would actually rock in the bores and when bad enough, would score the cylinder walls. Some were bored out and had iron sleeves pressed in. The softer iron was much easier on the piston skirts. This turned out to be an expensive lesson on mismatched materials. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 9/28/07 9:28 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Aluminum On 9/28/07, archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: GM built a small car; I forget its name; which had aluminum blocks/heads made of high silicon aluminum IIRC. The high silicon aluminum cylinder walls were supposed to wear well but they didn't. Wasn't that the Vega? The Vega's design fault was inadequate cooling, certainly not the Reynolds alloy the block was cast in. That very same Reynolds Aluminum alloy was used in the Porsche 944, 968 and 928 not to
Re: [MBZ] 220D, syncro van, fox ads
The audi wasn't worth that much new. Those things were a wiring problem waiting to happen, at least all the dead and dying ones that crossed my path not long after they were new. Too bad the syncro isn't a diesel. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: Misc 70's-80's German Michigan/Indiana/Ohio Autotrader ads: 220D, two drivetrains, new paint, looks like no drivetrain installed $1000 http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320085 VW Syncro van, engine built, surface rust touched up and primered, needs exhaust $3000 http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CM2320274 Audi Fox, low miles, no rust, stored inside. I haven't seen one of these in roadworthy shape for about 20 years. $3500, can't be worth that much. http://www.auto-rv.com/browse.aspx?AdName=CMW2320120 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D 2.5 Exhaust
I don't know about ceramic in there, but given what a pain it would be to try and weld that thin old flex, and that it wouldn't likely last more than a week, I broke down and bought the new pipe section when faced with that problem. ---Robert John Robbins wrote: John Robbins wrote: The car has developed an exhaust leak Lets try again (somehow managed to mash a keyboard shortcut) The car has developed an exhaust leak on the flex pipe... Since I don't have a welder, and don't want to replace the whole thing took it to a shop to get it replaced. They gave me some line about it having ceramic mixed in it, and that it would cost $400 to replace. Looking at Rusty's site it is a little over $100 for the whole 'header pipe' (turbo to center muffler)... so is there really ceramic stuff mixed in? Seems to me like I just got fed a line of bull John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5kW Chinese Genset
If that's one of those chinese diesels, one of those little red levers is most likely a compression release . You hold that down while first cranking and it allows the engine to spin a little faster, then you let off as it starts to catch ( at least it works that way on some of them ) -Robert im Cathey wrote: First I checked the oil. It had some. Next I checked the battery, it was dead and drew no charging current. I went and got a car battery and a set of jumper cables and hooked it up. The key then worked, but the engine only turned over a few times before it 'stalled'. I pulled the end cover off the housing and spun the motor back so the starter could get a 'run' at it, then it turned over again. It cranked a lot but no fire. There wasn't much fuel in the tank. I poured in the 2 gallons I had in a can and cranked again. (Sometimes I had to roll the motor backwards again.) Eventually it started firing intermittently, and with more cranking and running attempts it finally got up 'on plane' and ran. Not all that noisy, even with the covers off. Once it had run a few times it started easily with the key. I'm sure being warm helped, as did getting all the air purged from the fuel system. The set takes a long time to spin down when turned off. There's a spring-loaded red lever behind the access hatch that applies throttle. If you hit the release lever it drops to, or below, idle and stops. There is also a red lever on top that I don't know the purpose of. It can only be accessed with the box's end cover taken off. There is no voltage output, either AC or DC. I checked the wiring and such inside the cabinet, and there were no obvious faults or burned items. The regulator is potted, so that's not very handy. There is an exposed power diode bridge, but it checks out OK. There are no specs or schematics that I can find, I'm not sure where to look next. There's an odd heat-sinked box separate from the regulator that hooks to a pair of green wires that come out of the flywheel area. It has an inline fuse hooked to it, which I checked. Also good. There are a lot of wires. It's a mystery. Perhaps I've just purchased a one-lunged diesel motor for $400? Still not a bad deal! When I took the big battery off I found that the little one was now taking a charge. We'll see if it recovers enough to be usable. It, not fully charged, wasn't (yet) able to fight the engine's compression enough to turn over. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
There's a few factories in China making those generators like the NT one , then different retailers just get them painted different colours and have their sticker popped on. If you dig around on ebay, there's a seller who has them for $800 with the remote and automatic transfer switch to make it come on when the power fails, and his shipping costs are pretty close to what NT charges ( at least to here )) I snoozed on one of those Chanfa china diesel generators like on the hardy site. I missed a used one on Craigslist in Memphis for $300 and it went on ebay for about $600 Those things appear to be well built, but they are seriously heavy. I'm trying to find an affordable quiet diesel generator for dual purpose , hauling around with the 5th wheel for camping, and around the house, but I have to find one light enough to be able to manuver up to a rack over the cab ( or build an A frame to winch it on and off , trying to avoid that) -Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 9/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This seems like a deal and may be just what some of you have been looking for. Page 11 shows item # 168100-1801 at $1299. Peak load is 6500 watts and it comes with electric start and a battery. Shipping weight is 377 pounds so proximity to Northern is probably a plus, though it does say factory shipping. Punch it up at _www.northerntool.com_ (http://www.northerntool.com) That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator package of that wattage. Wonder how that compares to the Original China Diesel sold by a number of vendors online for $2500 or so (e.g. http://www.hardydiesel.com/gen/8kw.html). I'd like to buy a generator in the 6-8kw range for backup power at my new house (and fabricating one from a surplus 240D or VW engine, while appealing, is beyond my skills or time available right now). Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] my $78 pawn shop kirby throws fire but keeps on vacuuming
Kirbys aren't a ripoff, they are a pretty impressive machine. And unlike most other brands, you can still get parts for any of them, no matter how old. We've got one from the 50's that I've had forever, still runs great, but I didn't like having to dump the cloth bag with my allergies, and i found a newer G3 at the state resale ( where all the state agencies take their old unwanted or broken stuff to sell to the public ) and I found one with a stuck step switch from one of the nearby colleges , for $25. Only thing wrong with it was someone had stomped the pedal too hard and knocked it off the pins ( the state could have got it fixed for free, the Kirby dealer doesn't charge for repairs unless parts are involved ). It's nice because the super duper allergy bags for the new ones , fit the old ones, and those things are easily repaired, and parts easy to find. There's big janitorial supply that has parts and doesn't mark them up like the dealers do. As far as service, My wife, who has the talent of being able to break anything ( she figures we were made for each other , she can break anything and I can fix anything :-) managed to somehow break the drive axle on the thing. When I went to get a new one, the parts place said they'd never seen one break, and when they called the factory to order one, found out that nobody else had managed to break one on one of those models either, and they didn't have any, but they said they would. It took about 3 weeks, but they tooled up and made a new one ( and it was like the new style ones, slightly improved design , looks like they just had to make a few custom modifications to it ) and no extra cost. When I got back from the vacuum shop, I stopped by the Hallmark shop and got my wife a card of congratulations for succeeding where all others have failed :-) I'll have to agree on the stairs though, with a three story house, vacuuming operations on different floors are planned out ahead of time. ---Robert Gary Hurst wrote: my mother is coming to visit, so i figure it's time to bust out old kirby and go over the carpet a bit. kirby has always been loud, but tonight he simply screams bloody murder. i smell a little burning smell. and then i see some spark and flame inside the motor housing. but as it keeps sucking up dirt, i keep vacuuming. i do this for another minute or so and then realize that what i am doing is insane. now i've heard here that kirby's are really not that good and they are a pure ripoff, etc. i've heard it all before, but i'm still impressed. guess i'll need to take it apart this weekend to see what has gone awry. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
Yes, 6500 is overkill for the 5th wheel. 4000 would be plenty, but for the house I want to have enough to run the deep freeze an the blowers on the furnace and a few other necessities, so I figure I ought to get something a bit stouter than 4k. Either that or have to get two different ones, which may end up being the easier way to go, but the little diesels are about the same as the 6500 jobs, and my truck is diesel, so if I get a cheap gas generator, I'd have to haul another fuel. -Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 9/13/07, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Those things appear to be well built, but they are seriously heavy. I'm trying to find an affordable quiet diesel generator for dual purpose , hauling around with the 5th wheel for camping, and around the house, but I have to find one light enough to be able to manuver up to a rack over the cab ( or build an A frame to winch it on and off , trying to avoid that) If I get one of the Chinese ones or something similar, it is just going to sit on a pad out back, so weight is not a concern for me. Of course it is for your purposes. But isn't 6500KW overkill for a 5th wheel, even a big one? Alex ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 5600 Watt Diesel Generator in Northern Catalog
$380 is a steal. Grab that thing. I bet its in the wrong part of the country for me to swoop in and snag it :-) -Robert Jim Cathey wrote: That's the lowest price by far I've seen on a Chinese diesel generator package of that wattage. The local liquidator has a 6kW unit for $380. The wheels are off and the battery is out, obviously it's not in perfect condition. I'm still thinking about picking it up. Dratted thing is 3600 RPM which is not what I would normally want. That or yank the motor out and put it on the log splitter. I hate sucking gas fumes while I work. Best would be if I could plumb the pump off the end of the generator shaft! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] MB diesel hybrid
Article in AutoWeek online, says MB is going to have a diesel electric hybrid out is 2010 You have to sign in for the article http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE Or :-) Mercedes-Benz plans to roll out a wide range of diesel- and hybrid-powertrain models over the next three years to cut fuel consumption and CO2 emissions, and plans to put a B-class wagon powered by a fuel cell into production in 2010. Mercedes-Benz plans to have Bluetec diesel-hybrid models in its lineup, beginning in 2010, as it seeks to produce and sell the world’s cleanest sedans http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE#. The German automaker laid out its “Road to the Future” today at the IAA in Frankfurt. *Among its plans:* # A diesel engine for the United States in 2008 that will meet emissions regulations in all 50 states. The engine will be offered in the R-class wagon, and ML- and GL-class SUVs. # A hybrid version of the ML-class SUV in 2009. The powertrain mates at 4.6-liter V-6 engine with the Two Mode rear-drive hybrid system that DaimlerChrysler http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070911/FREE/70911001/1024/FREE# has developed in conjunction with BMW and General Motors. # A hybrid version of the S-class sedan will also be introduced in 2009. This S 400 hybrid will mate a V-6 gasoline engine with an integrated starter-generator. The starter-generator provides stop-start function, and can power the car on only electricity for short distances. It also adds an electric boost to the gasoline engine under heavy loads. # Mercedes says the hybrid powertrain is rated at 299 hp, can accelerate the large sedan from 0 to 100 kph (62 mph) in 7.3 seconds, yet burns only 7.9 liters of fuel per 100 kilometers (20.9 miles per gallon). # A fuel cell version of the B-class small wagon will go into limited production in 2010. Mercedes said the car will be powered by a new generation of its fuel cell stack that is smaller, yet puts out more power. # Versions of the E-class and S-class sedans powered by Bluetec diesel hybrid powertrains are due in 2010. The powertrains will include a four-cylinder diesel engine and seven-speed automatic transmission. The E-class hybrid will burn 5.1 liters (1.3 gallons) of fuel per 100 kilometers, or about 47.6 miles per gallon. # A version of the C class with the Bluetec diesel hybrid is due after 2010, Mercedes said. This article was last updated on: 09/11/07, 06:58 et ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration)
The snap on trucks usually carry the metric flare nut crows foot wrenches too.if you can chase them down. Granted, they get about $22 each for them. ---Robert George Larribeau wrote: Can I get them off the IP with a flair nut wrench, or am I gonna need to het the fancy Hazzet of set crow foot tool ? George Larribeau Dallas Texas - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 5:54 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (was Re: 1985 300SD NastyEngineVibration) I would not disturb the line clamps, I'd take all five off the IP, then off the injectors, and move the assembly out of the way. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Replacing Injectors (crowfoot wrenches)
Those HF flare nut wrenches are great...so long as the nuts were so loose to begin with that you could have got them off with an open end. If they're good and tight, the things will spread out and maul the line nuts to where getting them off turns into a major project. I'll cheap out on a lot of things, but not flare nut wrenches. The good ones will pay for themselves in saved time and aggravation . I learned that lesson the hard way. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: John Robbins wrote: I think I paid $7.99 for a set of metric flare nut crowfeet at Harbor Freight. A snaller set is $5.99 on the net now. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=93138 Wrench sizes: 10 mm, 12 mm, 13 mm, 14 mm, 15 mm, 17 mm, 19 mm Open end in the same 7 sizes is $8.99 regular price: http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=94427 My set isn't on sale right now, $14.99 for the full set of ten flare wrenches including 11mm, 16mm, and 18mm. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/displayitem.taf?Itemnumber=47928 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Tool Cart
Those things are sweet! Napa had one on display a few months back , and for a few bucks less than that if I remember , but I just looked online and they're up to $389 now http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=470LineCode=BKPartNumber=8156264Description=Tool+Cart that is one nice setup, even better in person than the picture. All very usable. I've been trying to scrounge up enough duckets to get one around all the other projects ( and I've already got a full size Craftsman roll away and a couple of tool carts, but I need something like that to cut down on the footwork for the most often used tools, the roll away is filled to the brim with specialty tools ) That would be perfect for what you need to do. A full cabinet would be essentially worthless, they're too heavy to move far to begin with . Load one down with tools and you wouldn't be able to get it in and out of the house The wheels on those things are only meant to maneuver a few feet here and there on smooth concrete and to roll it out to the truck to bring them home when you quit ( those real big tool boxes, the only way to move them when loaded is to call out a roll off flat bed tow truck and have the things winched on . Tow truck drivers get a lot of calls for that on Fridays when mechanics quit and on Mondays when they start new jobs :-) ---Robert John Robbins wrote: What do you guys think of this tool cart? http://www.thetoolwarehouse.net/shop/SUN-8013ABLDLX.html Anybody have any other recommendations? Does the brand typically make POS stuff? etc.. I need something that I can store in my house (neatly in a corner somewhere) and then be able to roll it out to my driveway. Right now I end up with tools all over the house because I'll leave them near the front door when I have to stop working, but I haven't finished the project yet. I don't want to spend more than $400 or so. Thanks! John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Worth much?
Could be just low on fluid, or a dirty valve body, cable way too tightor the tranny could be toast. Nice looking car. If you want it, bid assuming it needs a tranny at minimum, along with all the other usual ebay seller unmentioned items, present company excluded. -Robert Curt Raymond wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1983-Mercedes-Benz-300-Series-TURBO-DIESEL-NO-RESERVE_W0QQitemZ290158742592QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6330QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Says the trans won't shift to go over 20mph... Otherwise its in stellar shape for a New England car. Wonder if it could be something stupid and simple... -Curt - Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
There are a number of homemade ones out there, made from grease guns and bottle jacks , but all of the designs I've seen use iron plumbing parts, and if you've ever checked the pressure rating on those things, it's only a few hundred psi at best, and I certainly wouldn't want any body parts in range of one of those in operation. If going that route, choose materials carefully. The injector is calibrated by disassembling the injector body and replacing shims of different thickness on the nozzle. I've never bothered to go that route, the testers aren't all that expensive, but finding a supply of shims is another story. my local Bosch injection shop doesn't charge me anything to test them either, so it just hasn't been worth it to invest in the extra equipment. ---Robert R A Bennell wrote: How difficult is it to do this yourself? I seem to recall an article about a home made tester with a gauge made out of a grease gun etc. How is the injector calibrated? Randy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marshall Booth Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2007 2:39 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration John Robbins wrote: George Larribeau wrote: Rusty lists injectors and injector nozzles separately. Is the injector complete with nozzle? Can these just be installed or do they need to be set up ?? The injectors listed on Rusty's site come complete with nozzle, etc. All you need to do is remove the old injectors, replace heatshields, and install new injectors. :) The nozzles are available separately for people who rebuild the injectors themselves. New or rebuilt Bosch injectors are warranted to be within 10 bar pressure of one another. They need to be matched to within 5 bar for the engine to run smoothly. So, whether you rebuild or replace your injectors, they need to be calibrated! Some shops are equipped to do this, but many are not. Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1985 300SD Nasty Engine Vibration
Providing that you either don't get some really nasty fuel through them, or have some unexpected thing like excessive oil burning rear it's head , or you don't just get an urge to fiddle with them, you shouldn't need to fool with your fresh injectors for a good 100K + miles --Robert George Larribeau wrote: PS: How often is this fooled with ?? I know I have seen examples of injector testers made out of hydraulic jack pumps. .. was not initially interested at getting this invested in the process.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Second chance ebay offers
If you get a second chance offer, contact the original seller through ebay and find out if it's legit. Most of the time it's scammers that go behind hot auctions like vultures and hit everyone on the bidder list., if it really is from the seller, you're good to go. -Robert Hendrik wrote: I am trying to buy a mobile phone off ebay at the moment, I kinda like those Sony Ericsson W series ones but don't want to pay the sticker price. Anyway I am getting quite a few second chance offers like this one: I'm the seller of the item #170087302378 that you've recently bided through the eBay system. I contact you because I wan't to know if you are still interested to buy it. Please email me asap with your answer because I must to know if is necesarly to find another buyer or if you can buy the item . If you can't accept my offer,please let me know how much you can offer me before I will relist the item. I will wait for your email. Thanks! Obviously the are as fake as $20 Rolexes but I am wondering whether I should bother reporting them to ebay, they probably get 1000's of these every day. I got caught once with a second chance offer when I was a newbie on ebay and that one was very elaborate with the all the works and jerks but these are just pathetic. Also I do not reply to them because I might end up on a spam list. Lastly, why don't ebay alert their members that this sort of thing goes on? I suppose if you dig around in the fine print you'll find stuff but I dare say a lot of newbies might get caught. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] i really don't get how brick and mortar shops can survive today
We buy just about everything but fuel and groceries online, It saves a minor fortune. Building material have remained the last bastion of protected territorial marketing , but it looks like that's finally cutting loose as well. It's about time. I have no sympathy for the local business owners crying about how they're loosing business to the internet. If ( at least around here ) they weren't trying to retire off of each sale, and being jerks about it to boot, they wouldn't be loosing business. I can't wait until some enterprising lumber wholesaler goes internet and starts offering direct ship lumber without the extra 2-3 middle men. --Robert Peter T. Arnold wrote: On Fri, 7 Sep 2007 22:07:19 -0400, you wrote: i've been stopping at every hardware/home/discounter store i pass for the last week looking for burgundy rustoleum. my leg kills me every time i get back in the car. it's 90 degrees outside. no one seems to have it. i look online . my order is placed in 5 minutes. they are paying the freight. i'll have it within a week. how can your local hardware store compete with this? ___ Last year we remolded the Home interior. Took the kitchen out to the studs! Spent the value of a Buick. New high end cabinets from Home Depot, best to pay them to worry about layout $5,000 of appliances and stuff bought online, savings after shipping was about 25% Pergo style flooring for living room bought online, savings was about 50% My wife is a shopaholic, she like to get the last dime off the table. Buying on line has been very good for us! -- Regards, Peter T. Arnold 2007 HHR, 2.4L/Auto, LT2, 12Kmi, No problems! 1987 300SDL 280KMI Inherited by Grandson 1995 F-250 PowerChoke 199Kmi 1954 Metropolitan Convertible, Hanger Queen Wife has a Cruizer, 80 Kmi, as reliable as an Ice Box, the car that is! ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Hood Pads
The heat shield isn't for keeping the sun out, it's for keeping the heat under the hood and the paint on your hood. It would be worth a few extra bucks for a little extra protection in the long run. --Robert LarryT wrote: Howdy - I need a hood pad for the '78 240D and noticed Rusty sells one with, and one without a heatshield. Living in Va I'm not sure I need the heatshield. While I don't mind extra protection, if the heatshield is only needed when traversing Africa in high summer, it might be a waste to put it on mine. But, if it will make the AC work easier I'll go for it - Comments? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] was Coil packs now ford parts
http://www.tascavolvoparts.com/ http://www.fordpartsonline.com/ https://www.1stfordparts.com/ All basically the same parts list, sometimes one or the other will not have something listed or prices can be different Depending on what vehicle you're needing parts for , I have a few more. ---Robert R A Bennell wrote: While we are off on this Ford line, does anyone have experience with a good place to buy genuine Ford parts online at a good price? I'm doing it with Toyota parts and assume there is likely somewhere that would do the same with other brands. The local dealer is not about to cut his profit on parts and I do like original equipment for many purposes. Randy ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Looking for audio guy
I run a recording studio on the side...or at least I did before the fuel and utility prices went nuts. Now all the broke musicians are REALLY broke and business is slim at best. We specialize in recording all acoustic stuff so I know very little about noisy distortion effects or any of that midi and loop stuff ( and don't care to ), just seriously clean realistic recording here. What are you needing to find out? Robert archer wrote: Question: Are there any audio engineers or technicians on this group? Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
I think you should sell the thing to me for $50 :-) Seriously though, how long ago was the hose fixed before? Where exactly is it leaking now? the middle of the hose, at the crimp fittings? When the hose assembly was rebuilt before, did they cut off the crimp collars and put the new hose on, or did they cut the metal and weld new ends on? What test method was used to determine that the hose was the culprit, sniffer, UV dye ? Robert David Johnson wrote: The AC manifold hose in my 83 300 DT is leaking. It was rebuilt once before, so my trusted indy recommended a replacement if I want to fix it. The total bill will be in the neighborhood of $800-900, with parts from Rusty. I don't know if I should proceed this route or cut my emotional tie and sell the car. I've owned this baby for 3 years and have put many hours of labor (and a fair amount of money) into it. From stem to stern, the new items that I have put in include the following: radiator, radiator hoses, oil cooler, thermostat, fuel injectors, manual fuel hand pump, transmission lines to cooler, alternator, brake lines, shocks, front crank seal, all door vacuum valves as well as in the trunk and by the fuel door, front seat cushions, tires, front windshield, headlights, and climate control panel. When replacing the door vacuum valves, I also Dyna-mat all the doors. Put in new speakers front and rear. New CD player. And of course, Mobil1 throughout. The car runs great and has been very reliable, with 230K. The only thing that does not work is the trip odometer which failed about 2 months ago. The AC manifold hose repair is beyond my capability, so I will really need to shell out for this job. At this point the wife is asking how much more money we will need to spend on the car and I really can't answer her. I hate to say to her that this is really the last big-ticket item, and then the next day something else comes up. If I decide to sell, how much should I ask for, recongizing that it's worth a lot more to me than the potential buyer. Any words of wisdom from the list will be appreciated. David 83 300 DT 230K - Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
Nowadays everyone puts so much emphasis on airbags, that they seem to have forgot that airbags are, by definition , a supplemental restraint. Their primary reason for being is that so many people forget to or just don't use seatbelts, that the insurance companies figured that mandatory supplemental restraints would cut their cash output ( and maybe save a few lives in the process ). It's not that airbags are better than seatbelts ( if they were, race cars would be chock full of air bags and no seatbelts ), but rather that airbags are better than no seatbelts. Add to that some of the new micro cars that instead of building stout enough cars,use air bags upon airbags to cushion the impact of the tinfoil body parts as they attempt to mingle with your entrails. Personally, I'll take a nice old well built car with a seatbelt. Robert Hendrik wrote: Talking about safety http://ozbenz.net/viewtopic.php?p=26686#26686 Lucky so and so. However the point is that the miracle air bag will not save your life if you are squashed in a can or the car is torn to pieces. Those safety tests are done at relatively slow speed and act as a guide that car A is safer than car B, however in a real world smash those safety ratings mean nothing as the bulkhead crushes you to death because the manufacturer builds to a price and not a standard developed since the 1950's (was Honda even making cars back then?). My advice is for you to show her that picture of the CLK (?) just about opened right up and ask her how she thinks a air-bagged Honda would have faired, my guess that it would have been torn in two and exposing the occupant to extreme danger. The 124 is one of the safest chassis in it's time and was voted the worlds best car. It could be argued that it still is the worlds best, if you take running costs into account. But if you want a Japanese car, then buy a Japanese car. David Johnson wrote: Loren, I agree. Mathematically, you're right. The Car Talk guys are also in this camp. One other thing that the wife brought up was how safe is the car compared to the new ones with airbags, and all the likes. David Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you bought a new car, what would the total of car payments, increased cost of insurance and so forth be? Compare that to the total you have spent for a similar period of time for the Benz. I - Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fix or Sell?
If it's a slow leak that goes down maybe a cans worth a year, you really might want to do the test bit so you can buy a few cans and charge it yourself. That whole book hours thing is a great money maker . Yes the whole process would take about three hours, but 2 1/2 of those are spent letting the machine suck it out , letting the vacuum pump evacuate it and letting the engine run while the new freon gets sucked down. All of these things basically take care of themselves while the guy is fixing something else. Gotta love the flat rate manual if you're on the billing end :-) and the r12 isn't cheap. If cash is an issue and occasional recharges aren't the way you want to go, , you might just want to get the system sucked down, then replace the parts yourself, get the hose some new rubber, pop the 134 fittings on, get it sucked down or rent a vacuum pump for about $18 and recharge it yourself with r134a. --Robert David Johnson wrote: Robert, Thanks for your advice. I'll check with the local shop. What kills me is the labotr to evacuate the R12 and to put the new hose on is listed as 3 hours by the book, plus 3 lbs of the R12. It's a slow leak, with drops of dye-colored fluid coming out right where the crimp fitting is. David */Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: If it's just leaking around the crimp, there's no reason that you couldn't get a new piece of rubber put on your assembly for $20-40 . About the only time that you can't is if the metal part is pitted ( not likely with the car being in that climate all it's life ) or if the previous repair involved welding new metal ends on ( it would be noticeable ), if not, with the assembly off, you could send the hose out for new rubber instead of a $300 new assembly. If you were closer, I'd say bring it by and I'll put a new chunk of rubber on it, but the shipping both ways would probably be more than taking it to a local hose shop and I'd be willing to bet there are a number of shops there that will fix that hose. If you look in the yellow pages under hoses, you should be able to find a hydraulic hose shop that also does AC hose. If having a shop do it all, they should be willing to send the hose out, there;'s nothing wrong with old assemblies with new rubber. If it's all leaked out already, you could yank the hose yourself and take it to a hose shop, then pop it back on along with a new drier , and then take it in to get vacuumed and recharged for a heck of a lot less than $800. This is assuming that the leak is that fast. How long did it take to leak out and is it still R12 or has it been switched to R134a. If it's a very slow leak and it's still r12, you can go to http://www.epatest.com/ and take the test ( it's an open book test online, if you've got any smarts at all, you can pass it ) and you can then buy individual cans of R12 and top it off. If it's R134a and a slow leak, that ones a no brainer, you can get that at the local parts store and top it off. If you sell it and buy a new car, you'll be begging for the days that you were only faced with an $800 repair bill. My Mother bought a new Toyota Camry that's still under warranty, and every time it goes in for scheduled service, it comes out with a bill for between $500-1500 for non covered items, and this is all on top of car payments. Newer cars rarely make it out of a shop for under a grand these days. We have a habit of getting rather spoiled with our old European cars and whining about what are basically cheap repairs by modern car standards. I've got one lady with a '90 volvo who is facing about a $800 bill for a window regulator , timing belts and idlers, water pump and a few other regular maintenance items. He husband wants her to sell the thing and buy a new car because it's going to cost so much. Over the last 5 years she's averaged ( including the ones needed) about $600 a year upkeep to own that car ( that includes a seriously overpriced repair done by someone else before she found me ) She'll spend more than that on 2 months payments and the difference in her insurance premium for a new car over that time if she goes that route, and that's before new car maintenance expense so they'll be in for a rude awakening . Something to think about. --Robert David Johnson wrote: Robert, I don't know how long ago and how the hose was rebuilt.This was done by the previous ownber. The leak is at the bottom, where the crimp fitting is. I saw drops of fluid coming out, and it was confirmed with UV light. The labor for this thing is 3 hours, plus the cost of the evacuation, and filling up
[MBZ] Fix or Sell?
If it's just leaking around the crimp, there's no reason that you couldn't get a new piece of rubber put on your assembly for $20-40 . About the only time that you can't is if the metal part is pitted ( not likely with the car being in that climate all it's life ) or if the previous repair involved welding new metal ends on ( it would be noticeable ), if not, with the assembly off, you could send the hose out for new rubber instead of a $300 new assembly. If you were closer, I'd say bring it by and I'll put a new chunk of rubber on it, but the shipping both ways would probably be more than taking it to a local hose shop and I'd be willing to bet there are a number of shops there that will fix that hose. If you look in the yellow pages under hoses, you should be able to find a hydraulic hose shop that also does AC hose. If having a shop do it all, they should be willing to send the hose out, there;'s nothing wrong with old assemblies with new rubber. If it's all leaked out already, you could yank the hose yourself and take it to a hose shop, then pop it back on along with a new drier , and then take it in to get vacuumed and recharged for a heck of a lot less than $800. This is assuming that the leak is that fast. How long did it take to leak out and is it still R12 or has it been switched to R134a. If it's a very slow leak and it's still r12, you can go to http://www.epatest.com/ and take the test ( it's an open book test online, if you've got any smarts at all, you can pass it ) and you can then buy individual cans of R12 and top it off. If it's R134a and a slow leak, that ones a no brainer, you can get that at the local parts store and top it off. If you sell it and buy a new car, you'll be begging for the days that you were only faced with an $800 repair bill. My Mother bought a new Toyota Camry that's still under warranty, and every time it goes in for scheduled service, it comes out with a bill for between $500-1500 for non covered items, and this is all on top of car payments. Newer cars rarely make it out of a shop for under a grand these days. We have a habit of getting rather spoiled with our old European cars and whining about what are basically cheap repairs by modern car standards. I've got one lady with a '90 volvo who is facing about a $800 bill for a window regulator , timing belts and idlers, water pump and a few other regular maintenance items. He husband wants her to sell the thing and buy a new car because it's going to cost so much. Over the last 5 years she's averaged ( including the ones needed) about $600 a year upkeep to own that car ( that includes a seriously overpriced repair done by someone else before she found me ) She'll spend more than that on 2 months payments and the difference in her insurance premium for a new car over that time if she goes that route, and that's before new car maintenance expense so they'll be in for a rude awakening . Something to think about. --Robert David Johnson wrote: Robert, I don't know how long ago and how the hose was rebuilt.This was done by the previous ownber. The leak is at the bottom, where the crimp fitting is. I saw drops of fluid coming out, and it was confirmed with UV light. The labor for this thing is 3 hours, plus the cost of the evacuation, and filling up with 3 lbs of refrigerant. David */Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]/* wrote: I think you should sell the thing to me for $50 :-) Seriously though, how long ago was the hose fixed before? Where exactly is it leaking now? the middle of the hose, at the crimp fittings? When Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48516/*http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7%20 and lay it on us. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Decent 6.9 in Atlanta (now GTO)
It aint braggin if ya done it! There are those who sit around and read specs, then there are those of us who dig in and do it. As I said, 2.1:1 rear, huge carb , fancy ignition and a nice cam, all set up for high RPM. I was working in an engine shop at the time and we did a lot of high speed engines ( got lots of practice on boat engines for rich idiots, they would come in and spend 4-5 grand on a custom engine for a speed boat, then take it out to the lake, do a powerslide in front of a bunch of girls to impress them, and then the wake would wash over the back of the hull and straight into the velocity stack intake and blow them sky high.. by tuesday, they'd have another bare block in the shop for another 4-5 grand treatment, then they'd go out and do it again...must be nice to have more money then brains ). I had also learned when to trust the factory engineers, and they did a heck of a job on those things.It really took very little. It's not hard to make cars go really fast, you just have to make them wind out, but you do sacrifice quick takeoffs. I had a '67 El Camino I was playing with at one time that I really rigged to scream with a 350 small block ( with nothing stock in it but the crank)and a th 350 behind it ( along with fitting the front seats, dash and center console out of a '72 Chevelle in it dyed black and white , It looked pretty cool too :-), the thing would do 120mph in second gear. I have no idea how fast that thing could go in third, I never got around to working the suspension out to handle more than 150 before moving on to another project. Had two different carbs for it, the high speed holley wasn't very streetable, so I had a smaller AFB for it and mounted the carb with aircraft push pin quick disconnects so I could swap carbs in about a minute to run the thing.The guy who bought it promptly wrapped it around a tree first day out. The old 'merican stuff was usually way overbuilt and could be made to do much more with very little effort. Ah for the days before computer designing. Drag and weight only slow you down if you haven't got enough power. Its a good thing I grew out of all that. Now I drive around in a bunch of old diesels.Go figure. --Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You must be kidding, even with 360hp the 68 GTO could never go that fast. It was a pretty quick car, but technically you take into consideration wind drag, weight and actual gearing of the car and you have a brick on wheels. Harry 69 280 SEL 72 350SL ? 04 VW Passat 4 Motion 1999 Mazda Miata ? Rusty Cullens BuyMBparts, Inc. Tel 1-800-741-5252 Fax 770-454-9745 - Original Message - From: Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 8:27 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Decent 6.9 in Atlanta Not a bad looking car, but that silly little story included from the star is pure fiction. Anyone who's ever owned a '68 GTO ( present company included ) knows that 120 is just a nice mild cruising speed, those beasts don't even start breathing hard till around 180...that's when it's time to use the last third of the gas pedal travel. We used to have a lot of fun with that car out on a dry lake. 220mph+ is an interesting feeling :-) If they passed a GTO at 120 it's because the guy in the goat didn't care, not because the 6.9 is some super car. I wonder why he included that little snippet in his ad? I guess it didn't help him sell the thing. -Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesels in Nascar
Not sure about the current rules, but used to be nascar had to be 'merican stock body shape, and engine had to remotely resemble a block available in production for said body style. Under that, a diesel would have to be available as a production run ( not option ) for the car. However under the new rules, I don't think anyone has any idea what the actual manufacturer qualifications are, but the new cars, are all seriously castrated. When the cars started getting too light for the speeds a few years back, they started cutting them back, now the new ones have brought mediocrity to new levels. Modern nascar races are about as exciting as watching grass grow, of course, with enough cheap 'merican beer in your gut, I guess it's alright :-) As far as being 'merican, Toyota has wormed their way around that one for the Nascar truck series since they assemble them here ( not that they care about nascar, but they want the TV camera focused on their big stickers being drilled into the eyes of potential truck buyers with guts stuffed with aforementioned cheap beer ) Last I heard, they didn't get off to a very good start while at the first race, getting busted for cheating and being the recipient of one of, if not the largest , fine in nascar history. ---Robert LarryT wrote: Howdy - Now that Audi has shown total domination for several years now using a V10 TDI Diesel to win LeMans and other endurance races with a purpose to raise awareness of the diesel technology now available. They were said to desire to make countries - especially the US - aware of the diesels ability to offer dramatic fuel mileage with performance equal to or better than their gas counterparts. Now that the background is out of the way (Whew!) here;s my question. Since the US population is infinitely more aware of the goings on in Nascar, has anyone heard if Audi or others plan to compete in Nascar with a diesel? That would really seem to be a better way to reach a large number of Americans than endurance racing. Don't know what's legal/illegal to run in N'car but perhaps the V10 Audi has used so far would work in Nascar? Or perhaps the rules are written to prevent someone from running a diesel? I would think GM or Ford could really gain some ground on the competition if they could market a strong diesel to the public that would offer better performance than some of the hybrids being marketed. Anyone know? Just curious - Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Serious parts sale
The folks at http://www.ufixitautoparts.com/ are having a couple of serious clearance sales going on. They're having a parts by the pound sale with all the parts in that catagory selling for a buck a pound...the catch, no application references, so you either have to know what you're looking for or do a lot of net searches to see if they fit. I just scored a few hundred bucks worth of AC fitings and hoses to stock the shop up along with a bunch of other neat goodies. Some foreign, some domestic. I did see a couple of the old style frigidair compressors that fit some of the earlier models going for around $30. If you click something you really need, checkout fast, 4 of the things I wanted had already sold by the time i got to checkout For items not in the by the pound sale , there's a 25% off with reference code 89 you have to check those out seperately. I have no connection with them, but i have bought a bunch from hem before, mostly store closeouts new old stock Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this looks like it might be a hell of a deal
Aw come on, you know that every used benz being sold with non working AC only needs a recharge...you aren't supposed to pay any attention to those silly locked up compressors or giant gaping holes in condensers and the like :-) -Robert Hendrik wrote: Basically if you can't turn the compressor by hand it is stuffed. If the compressor idler bearing is seized you should still be able to turn the compressor but a seized compressor is a great bargaining tool and not that expensive to fix with a S/H one. A lot of people looking to buy a car will be turned off straightaway if the A/C is not working and this leaves the DIYers with cheap cars. andrew strasfogel wrote: Oh the evil that men do when trying to sell a used Mercedes... On 8/31/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I once purchased a 1976 300D that was missing its AC pulley belt. After purchasing the car, I had the belt installed but it immediately broke because the rotary AC compressor was seized! If the belt is missing, that's the first thing I assume! -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Decent 6.9 in Atlanta
Not a bad looking car, but that silly little story included from the star is pure fiction. Anyone who's ever owned a '68 GTO ( present company included ) knows that 120 is just a nice mild cruising speed, those beasts don't even start breathing hard till around 180...that's when it's time to use the last third of the gas pedal travel. We used to have a lot of fun with that car out on a dry lake. 220mph+ is an interesting feeling :-) If they passed a GTO at 120 it's because the guy in the goat didn't care, not because the 6.9 is some super car. I wonder why he included that little snippet in his ad? I guess it didn't help him sell the thing. -Robert John Robbins wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=300145019267 Its already ended, but I bet you could get in touch with him and make an off eBay offer if you're nearby. If it was about 2 hours closer I would be on my way to look at it. John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Decent 6.9 in Atlanta
Try 2.21:1 rear end. That's what mine had. A bunch came out of the factory that way. A waste of time to run a 1/4 mile with them, but they were made to open up and run. Most came with lower rears, but not much .I never saw a stock goat that couldn't do 160 no problem Most came out of the factory geared to run, people who wanted street racers generally switched them to lower sets later, although there was almost endless options for the things. -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: Not a bad looking car, but that silly little story included from the star is pure fiction. Anyone who's ever owned a '68 GTO ( present company included ) knows that 120 is just a nice mild cruising speed, those beasts don't even start breathing hard till around 180. How many rpms is that with a 4:10 axle (or even a 3.73) and 1:1 top gear? If tires are 30, that's a little less than 22mph per 1000 rpm at 4.10:1. At 3.21:1 it would be nearly 28mph, or about 139 mph at 5000rpm. I don't think I ever saw a muscle car with a 3.21 final drive. These cars had the power to go 120-140, but not always the gearing. A friend of mine had a race prepped 442 that would do 12 sec 1/4 mi. I don't think that car ever saw over 125 mph, even when he put a 4sp in it and drove it on the road. The Road Runner Superbird and Charger Daytona race cars had CD in the 0.28 range, and could do about 200 flat, but I'd be surprised if the homologation versions did over much over 160. Your typical supercar (GTO, 'Cuda, etc) was probably closer to 0.5 CD, and that took a lot off the top speed potential. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel and old Injector Pumps
Did her AC start blowing not as cold at the same time? AC blow off valves cutting loose at stop lights on real hot days is pretty common., Wind up with an unknown cloud either billowing out from under the hood or out the back if the engine fan is kicked in . ---Robert archer wrote: After a very short drive my daughter was sitting at a traffic light in her GL320cdi SUV when she noticed a big white cloud of something that looked like it may have come out of her exhaust. There was no other car close by that could have produced it. The car has just had it's first major service since she bought it. She says she may have gotten a tankful of less than the ultra low sulphur fuel. She hasn't seen any more white clouds behind the SUV since then. Does anyone have an idea what could have caused such a cloud? The only thing I could think of would be a headgasket letting water into a cylinder. The dealer is 60 miles away, so driving it there could be risky if there is something seriously wrong. Thanks, Gerry - Original Message - From: Peter Frederick [EMAIL PROTECTED] The lubricating qualities of the sulfur in diesel fuel are in the sulfur containing organic molecules. There is no free sulfur dissolved in diesel fuel, it's all part of some carbon containing molecule (there are many). It's removed by breaking up those molecules and precipitating out the molecular sulfur. Those sulfur containing molecules provide most of the lubricating qualities of diesel fuel, and are in fact quite good high pressure lubricants (much better than the paraffins or linear hydrocarbons, which make up 90+ % of the bulk diesel). Taking them out greatly reduces the lubricating nature of the fuel. Peter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bimby / injector bypass hoses
Are you running any biodiesel or WVO? ---Robert Wonko the Sane wrote: Bought a length of injector bypass hoses from Rusty a while back -- maybe a year ago. Have replaced factory hose on both of my diesels (VW Benz). EVERY LINE HAS LEAKED and has had to be replaced. I am getting at the most six months out of a section before it cracks and leaks. The frustrating part here is that neither car was leaking before the replacement -- I was doing preventative maintenance. Now, this isn't Rusty-bashing. It is more of a question. Rusty certainly doesn't manufacture the hose. The hoses are cracking at the nipple. Am I doing something wrong in the install? I just put the hose ends on and shut the hood. Is there a special nipple grease or something that I am not using? Maybe a bad run of hose at the factory? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Bimby / injector bypass hoses
Then you might want to get the viton hose http://www.greaseworks.org/index.php?module=pncommercefunc=categoryviewCategoryID=11 B2 will take a lot longer to wear hoses out than b100, but it still has the same effect over time. -Robert Wonko the Sane wrote: Depending on where I buy fuel, either straight dino or B2 (2% biodiesel). On 8/28/07, Robert Tara Ludwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you running any biodiesel or WVO? ---Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] I think wonko the insane liberal should buy this
It would have been nice to see a picture of the fancy bedroom described , or maybe the cockpit , instead of him mugging for the camera. Let's see..9'8 wide, he fails to mention that you'd need to buy an oversize permit every time you put it on the street, in some places you'd have to hire an escort car or two. Robert Robert Rentfro wrote: Bob the Limo King is rockin' some serious bling. Gotta love all those extra photos having nothing to do with the plane/limo/bus/car/thing. Bob R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kaleb C. Striplin Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 5:43 PM To: Banned List; mercedes Mailing List Subject: [MBZ] I think wonko the insane liberal should buy this http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Boeing-727-Jet-Limo-Built-on-a-Mercedes-Bus-s eats-50_W0QQitemZ130147708496QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6728QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1Q QcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] What happened to the VW rabit diesels from the 1980's
Here in the US most suffered from poor maintnence. Selling an economy car with a diesel engine to the downscale market leads to infrequent oil changes coolant changes etc. Add to that the ones that have broken down in middle 'merica over the years and due to the lack of knowledge of diesels ( and overall fear of anything European) by most mechanics here, that have ended up oxidizing away behind a service station. If they've been taken care of properly, they tend to last a very long time I had a rabbit diesel years ago, loved the thing, but ended up junking it due to inability to find parts at the time ( pre internet days, and pre mc parts days ) and what parts could be found were insanely expensive here, only game in town was a severely overpriced Napa franchise owned by a guy with a big fancy house on the hilland he liked to make those house paymentstry $80 each for glow plugs I've got a volvo diesel, same engine just a couple more cylinders, great engine...if taken care of, otherwise about 150k miles and they fold. Amazingly in Europe where they know how to take care of the things, there are tons of them running around , many as taxis an ambulances that go for hundreds of thousands of miles without problems. ---Robert Peter Merle wrote: Here in South Africa we also had a lot of diesel rabits from the 80's that seem to have disappeared in the 1990's . I was wondering what happened to them. Do many still exist in the US. We still BTW have lots of Merc diesels from the 80's here. PEter ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Ultra low sulfur diesel. Trouble for old injector pumps?
Howes lubricator is some great stuff for pumps ( and it does a nice job of cleaning ), but the lubrication isn't the big problem, With changing the fuels, older pumps ( all kinds ) are sprouting seal leaks, it's not that the new stuff will eat up new pump seals, its just that old seal material is used to the old formula and changing to the new stuff results in leaks. Once the leaks are fixed, the new seals *should* last as long as they would on the old stuff. If you have the engine out already, and if you have the tools to time the thing, might be a good idea to pop the pump off and replace the shaft seal and the orings on the side plates. Robert Robert Bigham wrote: Hello all. I suspect this has been discussed before, but I don't know. Does anyone know if the current ultra low sulfur diesel has any bad effect on old Bosch injection pumps. like on a 1981 VW Rabbit? Yes, I have one of those. Its a curious, loud, shaky little car, but fun in its own way. Gets 40+ mpg with badly worn piston rings, low compression and burning oil at 150 mi/qt. If there is a bad effect on th IP, is there anything I can do about it? I'l start back driving the VW sometime in October if my plans work out. I need to put my good diesel engine it in in place of the worn one with a blown head gasket and low compression otherwise. Thanks Robert 1983 230E (123) Grey market Benz 144K miles. OK right now. 1981 VW Rabbit diesel 204K miles. Dead. Blown head gasket. 1976 Ford F 150 460 engine 400K+ miles on chassis. Dead. Hole in timing cover leaks water. Robert Bigham [EMAIL PROTECTED] EarthLink Revolves Around You. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Gasket paper WAS Motorcycle success
Most parts places have it near the gasket sealer. Comes in little rolls. ---Robert John Robbins wrote: Jim Cathey wrote: Yeah, gasket paper. Cheap and effective. Just takes a bit of time. Like 10 minutes! Where do you guys find this stuff? None of the local McParts have it... John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
You have to check to see if your homeowners/renters insurance covers your stuff in a move, then file with them and let them duke it out with the carrier. ---Robert andrew strasfogel wrote: We had insurance and they still only reimbursed us $.45 per pound, regardless of the items' value. The industry is pathologically under-regulated. On 8/24/07, Dwight E. Giles, Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Glenn, I hate to say it, but we have had trouble with almost every moving company over the years-we never used Wheaton, but Grabel was the worst-on a move from Ithaca to Nashville, they lost my antique 1950 Dodge half ton pickup for 6 weeks. It turned up in a fenced lot in NJ (no joke) Mayflower was not much better-that depended on who the local affiliate sent to unload you-we got 3 guys, two of whom were drunk and stoned. Packing was not much better for some of them. And Grabel was slow to settle claim of damage to new floor from refrigerator being dragged across it. Anyway, the best movers were my friends and I 30 years ago with a U-Haul and a couple cases of Yuengling Beer. Hope you are getting settled in W. NC-I visit Hendersonville several times a year to see family. Do check out Euro spec for an Indy specializing in MB. My 'new' 240D (1978) is being serviced there before its ride North next month. Dwight Dwight E. Giles, Jr. 1979 240D-250K + miles 1990 300D 2.5t 135K miles Wickford, RI -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glenn Brown Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 10:56 AM To: mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Wheaton Van Lines
One thing most people don't know is that its real rare for your stuff to go on to a moving van and be delivered by same van on the other end, at least not without some shuffling in between. One truck will generally make a handful of pickups in an area, then go to a storage facility, where it's offloaded, shufled, bent spindled and mutilated, and combined with other housholds on a truck going in the direction of your move, usually 2 or more households per van, sometimes three or four., Then sometimes along the way your stuff will be offloaded at another storage facility or two to get it aimed in the right direction. All in all, it gets handled a lot before it gets to your new abode, and if you think it gets handled rough while you're watching... I drove for a company that did household moves years ago, but I only did a few, I hauled mostly electronics, but it's a real strange game. There are a few small operators who will handle your stuff personally, point to point that have very good reputations. Unfortunately, the help for loading etc generally comes from a temp agency and you get the bottom of the barrell. those Pods and ABF setups where they drop a container or a trailer and you can hire your own folks to load unload and they pick it up and take it to the new place, are another half decent option. My sister and her family recently did the pod move, it wasn't bad, they had the container for a week or so to load at their leisure, then about the same on the other end to unload it, with an option to rent the thing longer if they needed more time . Nice thing with this option is you can hire folks to do the heavy work, usually you can find some stout college kids who want to make some money , your homeowners insurance etc should have a provision to cover people you hire to work around your house if you have a blanket policy ( stay away from the football players, a bunch of big wimps who run out of steam after a very short time and whine like babies, used to amaze me how an old worn out truck driver who hasn't slept ( me ) could handle more freight than 3 young football players, I ran into that situation more times than I can count , and I've never been the picture of health) Big problem is for company moves, they usually have a contract with specific carrier so you're stuck with whoever they're paying for. -Robert Glenn Brown wrote: For anyone considering a move, from a recent bad experience with Wheaton Van Lines - DON'T, DON'T, DON'T! The word needs to spread. G. M. Brown Brevard, NC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] PODS (was Re: OT: Wheaton Van Lines)
Figure the fuel on that uhaul at closer to 4-5 mpg. When I had to rent a uhaul and a car trailer to get from Buffalo NY to Little Rock AR a few years ago it cost me 2 grand for the equipment and a minor fortune for the gas ( and that was before the gas prices went nuts ) and all I was hauling was the car, the box was empty , car pooped out, engine folded on the turnpike and had to get it home. That was for what was basically a one day run. --Robert LWB250 wrote: A 17' U-Haul is only $1446 in comparison, although that does not include the cost of fuel and motels. Figuring 300 gallons of fuel at 10/mpg and 3000 miles, you're still under $1000 for fuel alone. Granted, there is something to be said about having someone else do the driving, but... Dan --- LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just went to their Web site and ran a quote. For a 16' container shipped from Tampa to Reno they wanted roughly $5100. Ouch. Then again, I have no idea what moving rates are these days, either. Nothing was mentioned about weight in the quote, either. I think I'll run a quote for a 16' U-Haul to see what it compares to. I like the idea of ditching everything before you move. The minimalist thing appeals to me. Dan Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy
Correct, new ones are not matched and the spec allows for some error, but if you want the thing to run extra smooth at idle, you can take them in and have them matched ( some call it balanced, same thing ) to a much closer figure. Robert Curt Raymond wrote: I was under he impression new ones were not matched by default... Could mismatched injectors lead to lowered economy or would better matched injectors give better economy? -Curt Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:12:07 -0500 From: Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; reply-type=original Bought them from Rusty, whatever he sells. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 603 ALDA tweaking and fuel economy On 8/23/07, Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my SDL I seem to be getting about 22 or so, I would think i should get more than that. I have what I think is too much black smoke and that is after new injectors. I dont think the alda has ever been adjusted on mine. NEW new injectors or rebuilt oldies? Don't the new ones have a bad rep (no longer made in Germany)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com - Take the Internet to Go: Yahoo!Go puts the Internet in your pocket: mail, news, photos more. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C Question
Only problem with that is you need closer to 30 to get any moisture out of the system. ---Robert Trampas wrote: A proper running car will pull to about 19 at idle which on the hot days of summer around here it is pretty good. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rich Thomas Sent: Wednesday, August 22, 2007 3:19 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question Engine vacuum only pulls down to like half atmospheric (13-14 maybe), not really enough to do any good in an AC system. --R Trampas wrote: I changed one on my 300SD and it was relatively easy, on the 420SEL there was an extra brace and it took half the day. If I had to do it again I would remove the dash pad first. Also to vacuum out the system I have used a vacuum line from the engine. That is start engine connect AC gauge to intake manifold through vacuum line and let engine run (assuming gas engine). However I now have a cheap vacuum pump powered from air compressor that I got from harbor freight for under $20. Trampas -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Cathey Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 11:49 PM To: Mercedes Discussion List Subject: Re: [MBZ] A/C Question Depends on which car. The expansion valve on the 124 is between the firewall behind and inboard of the brake booster. On the 126 I expect it's still behind and above the brake pedal (and an absolute BEAST to work on). For the 126 lie on your back with your head next to the gas pedal. Look up. You can see it. Just. I have no idea how one would actually get a wrench on it, much less two of them to crack the fittings loose. BEAST is an understatement. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Post Falls SL musings
They make driveshaft de-coupler kits for toads, along with brake actuators for the cars brakes. Dig around the RV sites and you'll find them.. For the driveshaft, you'd wind up with an extra lever in the car to disconnect the driveshaft , then you don't have to worry about the tranny. ---Robert Jim Cathey wrote: So I was thinking, How can I keep this car without getting killed? We just got back from a week's coastal vacation, and one of the things we talked about was how nice it would have been to have a toad over there. A convertible would have been particularly nice. Our truck is more than capable of handling a toad in addition to hauling the camper, if the car's brakes can be utilized. However that's not something you'd ordinarily do to a nice car, but a cheap SL isn't so much that you'd worry about it. And an SL is as small as you'd want to go for a practical toad for a family of three, plus some crap. It would also be highly unusual, which is good for me. There are difficulties, largely that the car has an automatic transmission. Though vintage MB's can be towed, it's not fast or far, the rear pump is apparently not up to the task of keeping things lubricated. I am very much against having to take a wrench to the flex disks in order to rig for towing. My wife would not be amused. It would really have to be simple to attach and detach, mechanics' work and/or trailers/dollies are right out. Two ideas: 1) Replace the transmission with a manual. Not easy, the parts probably don't even all exist. 2) Hook up an auxiliary electric hydraulic pump. It oughtn't need much flow. This would keep the guts of the transmission lubricated during the long haul. I'm assuming that something could be plumbed in at the cooler lines, and/or the test gauge ports. (An auxiliary electric vacuum pump would also take care of running the brake booster for when a brake servosystem was fitted.) Any thoughts? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels
Aero Kroil is your friend www.kanolabs.com Soak the glow plugs down overnight with that stuff, a couple of days if really stuck. Definitely use antisieze compound on the new ones. I personally like the stuff that Liqui Moly makes, the copper base. GPs come right out of aluminum or iron heads without a fuss. -Robert andrew strasfogel wrote: Is the same true about glow plugs? I wanted to install new ones this weekend (1983 300TD) but they were in so tight I was afraid of doing serious damage in case they were frozen in place. Is it possible these are the original GPs? I haven't changed them since purchaseing the vehicle in 1989! I also discovered a split CV boot. What's the best way to deal with that? On 8/20/07, Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yep, a little salt water goes a long way - the parts actually bond together. Tom www.kegkits.com Original Message From: Marshall Booth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08/20/07 01:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Subject: Re: [MBZ] Anti sieze on aluminum wheels -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Robert Bigham wrote: I never before heard of a wheel so tight it took driving with loose lugs to get it loose fro the hub. Wow. Happens routinely in the rust belt! Marshall -- Marshall Booth Ph.D. Ass't Prof. (ret.) Univ of Pittsburgh School of Medicine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] severe crack
And a zero feedback seller to boot. I wonder if the owner of that house knows that there was a cheesy used car salesman taking pictures in his yard.. ---Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mercedes-Benz-S-Class-1987-Mercedes-Benz-300-SDL_W0QQitemZ330157868810QQihZ014QQcategoryZ6336QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sacriledge, break out the pitchforks
Not quite as tacky as the old Rolls Royce looking front end on the Beatle trick, but tacky none the less . -Robert Hendrik wrote: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=290151352486ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:AU:1 This person should be sued for a number of reasons but unfortunately bad taste is not possible. I wonder how Daimler feel about this? Although I do have secret fantasies about putting a Toyota front on my Mercs :-[ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] subject change: Iowa's a nice place to live
I know what you mean about the cloud cover. I lived across the river from Portland in the hills outside of Vancouver for a few years. I was traveling for work, and every time I was heading home with plans, everything was soggy and gray . It got old pretty quick I'll never forget my well adapted native neighbor, standing in his driveway in shorts with the barbecue fired upwith freezing rain coming down. When I looked at him, he just smiled and said It's the first day of spring ---Robert LWB250 wrote: Oy gevalt! You can't imagine the idiots, although many of them are from out of state... Haven't lived in Iowa, but did some work in Des Moines and northern Iowa (for Winnebago in Mason City.) Washington and Oregon are nice in the summer, but I'm not sure i could put up with the cloud cover from October to April. I did a lot of work in Portland and Seattle, and in the summer when the weather was clear they were truly beautiful places to be. I liked Portland the best. In the winter - yuck! I would love to live in San Luis Obispo. That, outside of the Sierra foothills around Auburn, CA, is one of the most beautiful places in the Lower 48 that isn't a national park. I was there a number of times to do some hush-hush work on OTHB radar sites in the mountains above Atascadero. From some of the sites you could see well out into the Pacific in one direction, and in the other, all the way to the Sierras. sigh Dan --- archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Example of idiots? Florida in general has often been called a human jungle. Iowa and Washington/Oregon are my favorite states as well as central coastal California. Gerry Sick sense of humor? Visit Yahoo! TV's Comedy with an Edge to see what's on, when. http://tv.yahoo.com/collections/222 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel Air Filter service life.
Just beat it on something, or blow it out with air. If you want to get fancy, just pull into one of the few zillion offroad specialty places in Phoenix and they shouldn't have any trouble fitting your filter with a washable pre filter. --Robert Marshall Field wrote: I am going broke buying air filters for my three 300d's. The Kalifornia version air filter at almost 50 bux a pop really hurts. What I am looking for are some ways and wisdom to get some more service life out of the air filters. Yes, all the usual stuff has been looked at and brought up to spec. The seals, the hoses and pipes, everything. All are tight. Silica on the oil analysis is in the cellar so I know the system is tight. And I particularly dislike any air filter with the K and N name on it., I live in Phoenix, drive mostly on roads and freeways. Problem is that I can get hardly 2500 miles out of a air filter. Usually less, much less miles. My criteria is holding the filter up to bright sunlight. If I can not see daylight through the folds in the filter, then to me it is plugged and needs replacing. I remember years ago seeing some domestic Purolator filters that had a washable sock over the main paper air filter. But I have never seen such a set up for a MB. I am sure that something can be rigged, but that would entail a smaller diameter, non standard air filter for the housing So, any ideas or help is greatly appreciated. Marshall in Phoenix Three (3) 300D's ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Quantity of AC oil in condenser?
I don't know on the 124 specifically, but as a general rule, about 1 oz for a condensor. If your email inbox can stand it, I'll email you a pdf file of a refrigerant lubricant chart. Robert Zeitgeist wrote: I just got my new condenser (see the jeer at the idiot thread) and it seems I've misplaced my 124 service manual. Can someone tell me how much oil I need to add to the system when RRing the condenser? btw: the new condensers have tabs which allow for a much easier mounting of aftermarket fans. TIA ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Award for inconvenient design...
30 psi is a bit on the low side What is the ambient temp outside , preferably readings in the shade and the sun ( the shade is the one you'll find on all the weather sites ) ---Robert Allan Streib wrote: ...goes to the Ford Focus, and the decision to locate the AC low side service port in the passenger-side fender, UNDER the wheel well liner. So you have to remove (at least partially) the wheel well liner to charge the AC. I couldn't even find it until I went on-line and looked up its location. I found my refrigerant can tap valve, and hooked up my cheapo gauge to the port. Pressure was about 20 PSI, and the compressor was short-cycling. Added roughly half a can (6 oz) of R134a and the compressor stopped cycling, ran more quietly, and the pressure went up to about 30 PSI. Vent temps dropped from 60 to 40 degrees (F). Since the total capacity of the system was listed at 26oz and it acted happy with that amount, I did not add any more. I've heard it's better to be a little too low than too high. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] NYC- was- Mann Oil Filters Coming Apart
My wife, who runs a restaurant, and I love to watch Rachel Ray with the 30 minute meals...and count how many times she cross contaminates her utensils /cutting boards/hands etc between raw meat and veggies etc that are going to be served raw or lightly heated. If anyone actually ate the stuff she put together on that show, they'd be spending an incredible amount of time in the toilet :-) Robert andrew strasfogel wrote: There was a hilarious send-up of Rachel Ray's cheap eats (featuring bargain-priced restaurants) on Mad TV, showing her to be a ditsy lush. In the skit she visited a restaurant early in the day on the pretext of reviewing the food but in reality to do some serious drinking. She yakked continuously for the camera, toying with her appetizer while ordering one cocktail after another until she was completely blottoed. I almost died laughing. On 8/14/07, Alex Chamberlain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 8/14/07, Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This week I'll be teaching the folks at the Rachel Ray show how to maintain their video storage system. I like this class, its mostly administration and troubleshooting and production houses can rarely spare more than 1 or 2 people at a time so it makes for short days. I don't suppose you get to meet Rachel herself? Yummo! Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Attn Kaleb AC adapter
Hey Kaleb, I found the box from Napa that my AC fitting adapter for the vacuum pump to hook to the yellow hose, came in. The part number is 409551 non napa part # on their website http://www.napaonline.com/MasterPages/NOLMaster.aspx?PageId=430OEMPartNum=409551 Looks Like I got off cheap, they get $9.40 for it now ---Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Radiator brands: Who can give advice?
I've installed lots of Nissens radiators in a variety of different vehicles. Great quality and fit. For every application so far, their radiators have had more rows of tubes and more fins than the stock radiator ( some as much as 30% more capacity ) ---Robert Robert Bigham wrote: Hello all I need to pick your brains about radiators. My perfect Behr round tube radiator 123 501 56 01 was destroyed by the consequences of the acts of an idiot posing as a mechanic, but that's not really important. Replacing the destroyed radiator is much more important. Car is 1983 Model 123.223 230E Grey Market car. Four cylinder 2.3 liter, 100 KW output. Automatic transmission. I shopped Rusty, and put in a quotation request a week ago, and haven't heard anything except that the quote will be ready before long. I think I know what that means, unfortunately. Not available. I'm used to that. Grey market and all that. I'm looking for a used radiator like the one that was destroyed, and I'm looking for a new one. I looked out in the big world, and find Behr, Nissens, noname, and Valeo radiators that might be a suitable fitment. Width dimension is pretty important. Not too wide - will interfere with air cleaner. Not too narrow - fan shroud will gap at sides and not force airflow through core. Just right is 518 mm, wide, i.e, standard width. Height is standard 123 chassis radiator height. I am shy of noname radiators. Maybe I shouldn't be. Somewhere I read a rant against Behr radiators of the 1980-85 period. Hose nozzles break off or something like that. Flimsy. My old Behr radiator was perfect and worked perfectly. There couldn't have been a lot fundamentally wrong with it. But it is history now. I never heard of Valeo radiators except vaguely and I think associated somehow with Volkswagens. I never heard of Nissens radiators at all until now. There are many things I have never heard of. I never imagined having to roust out a radiator, although I bought a used one (which turns out to be wrong - too wide) on ebay, just in case I might need it sometime.. It's an excellent Behr radiator except it ain't the right one. Too wide. Interferes with air cleaner snout. I'd like to hear anything anyone might care to share, and any advice anyone may have. I'm sure there's a radiator guru or expert out there somewhere. Thank all of you. Robert, in a liquid to air heat exchanger mode. . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] $8500 POS
I'd say the decimal two places to the left estimate is probably accurate. There may be that much in metal, but in a recent conversation with a boneyard owner, it was costing him a combined $20 an hour in labour to tear the things apart , so if your time is worth anything and it would take a single person a lot longer than the 3 guys eviscerating one at the boneyard with all of their available implements of destruction.. --Robert Mitch Haley wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Holy cats. A 140, 200K miles AND it's been wet. Move the decimal point two places left. Not quite that far. A 140 is HEAVY. Gotta be at least $300 for scrap metal. If you can sell the doors, trunk lid, fenders and hood for $100 each, and if the seats are nice enough to sell for $250, the car's easily worth $850. Engine and tranny might even be worth something IF the fluids were changed before it was started. Mitch. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!
That definitely falls under adding insult to injury :-) Where's the rotten fruit??? Robert Rich Thomas wrote: dumbshitedly I think that word needs another t in it, and a U before it! --R Zeitgeist wrote: Hi, my name is Casey, and I'm an idiot. Here's great fun for the whole family... So, last week I was whining about my mal-performing AC, and assumed that my compressor was failing--WRONG! Turns out that Mr Cathey was correct, when he pointed out that my needle valve on the high side might be improperly seated. I was overcharged. Once I bled off some refrigerant, it began working nice and peachy--cool. Then, I augmented the effect by having my windows professionally tinted--also cool. Then...I launched into my pièce de résistance; I began to finally re-install an auxiliary fan(s), which I'd removed during the intercooler interlude--wouldn't fit anymore. I've been without for about 2.5 years--not smart. But wait, it gets even not-smarter... I ordered two little 9 SPAL units, along with various mounting options, including little nifty stainless pins that fit between the fins and hold the fans (they're fairly lightweight) right tightly up against the condenser. They're so cute and alluring, that I couldn't resist. By now, you've probably figured out what happened next, haven't you? Yes, that gut-wrenching hiss and steamy cloud followed my third exploratory poke. It's still venting as I type this... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Virtual Pillory: Come jeer at the idiot!
Is that thing a two seater? Don't feel bad, I hate those little push through mounting things. I don't know why they make them. I got a free radiator for my truck a while back that was fine, and I mauled a handful of the inner tubes while removing a dual electric fan setup that the previous owner had installed with the plastic pins and wound up with pinholes right in the middle. It would be too much surgery to fix, so I just ordered a custom ( larger ) radiator for the thing to the tune of about $550...ouch. --Robert Zeitgeist wrote: Hi, my name is Casey, and I'm an idiot. Here's great fun for the whole family... So, last week I was whining about my mal-performing AC, and dumbshitedly assumed that my compressor was failing--WRONG! Turns out that Mr Cathey was correct, when he pointed out that my needle valve on the high side might be improperly seated. I was overcharged. Once I bled off some refrigerant, it began working nice and peachy--cool. Then, I augmented the effect by having my windows professionally tinted--also cool. Then...I launched into my pièce de résistance; I began to finally re-install an auxiliary fan(s), which I'd removed during the intercooler interlude--wouldn't fit anymore. I've been without for about 2.5 years--not smart. But wait, it gets even not-smarter... I ordered two little 9 SPAL units, along with various mounting options, including little nifty stainless pins that fit between the fins and hold the fans (they're fairly lightweight) right tightly up against the condenser. They're so cute and alluring, that I couldn't resist. By now, you've probably figured out what happened next, haven't you? Yes, that gut-wrenching hiss and steamy cloud followed my third exploratory poke. It's still venting as I type this... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: 1992 Suburban AC
Most likely a fuse or the control unit, but there may be a high pressure switch on that system, or a few other switches thrown on just to make a mess like most later GM ac systems that make me ill and angry to work on. Hard to say without seeing it. you may be able to find some decent online diagrams on autozones website Robert Jim Cathey wrote: My BiL brought his burbinator by for an AC recharge. Unfortunately that's not what's wrong with it. Surfing for an hour or two got me nothing on how it's constructed. The compressor wouldn't cut in, though the low side pressure was plenty high and the switch on the accumulator was closed. I jumped the compressor on to see what happened. The pipe to the condensor gets hot, pipe from gets warm. By the time that small line gets to the firewall it's ice cold. Accumulator itself is warm, the suction hose at the compressor is coolish. Unfortunately my gauge set wouldn't go on the high-side fitting, so I don't have that pressure. No idea why the compressor won't run either. Anybody got a quick checklist or a place to look for the same? He's leaving tomorrow AM, so I probably won't have time to do anything but who knows... Oh, and the burbinator has rear AC too. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
If you buy a good set, you won't be sorry. for occasional use the cheap ones work fine, but the connectors and knobs don't last long if used a lot. ---Robert Allan Streib wrote: Went to put a can of R134a in my wife's car last night, and could not find the cheapo tap and hose that I bought for this at Autozone or someplace. Thinking of buying a set of proper service gauges -- so I can see the high and low side, etc. There is a Snap-On set on eBay right now, any thoughts on that or other brands? I'd like one that is R12 and R134a capable, and has a vacuum connection. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
The hoses won't fit without adapters and those are getting harder to find. If you do get an r12 set with adapters for 134, you will need to drop by an HVAC supply and buy a bag of the little rubber washers that go in the fittings, because they take a beating ( they're dirt cheap ) ---Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: What about having one manifold and two sets of hoses, and flushing out the manifold with some type of solvent in between uses? Or is that being penny-wise and pound-foolish? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: AC Gauge set
Napa carries them. I just had to buy one a few weeks ago for a new vacuum pump I bought ( my old adapter was seized to my old pump). I think they hit me about $5 for it, but considering that I had wasted half a day hitting all the HVAC supply houses and came up empty handed, $5 isn't too bad :-) --Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: speaking of adaptors, anybody know where I can get an adaptor for the yellow hose to hook R134 guages to my originally R12 recycle machine? It has the R12 side fitting on the front of the machine to hook guages to, need an adaptor so I can hook my R134 guages to it. Robert Tara Ludwick wrote: The hoses won't fit without adapters and those are getting harder to find. If you do get an r12 set with adapters for 134, you will need to drop by an HVAC supply and buy a bag of the little rubber washers that go in the fittings, because they take a beating ( they're dirt cheap ) ---Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage
Ha, That reminds me of a whole bunch of years ago out in LA, I was driving home at about 2 am at the speed limit, 55 mph on I 210 ( I think that's the number , foothill freeway? been a while )and got pulled over. The cop explained that the reason he pulled me over was that the only people driving the speed limit at that time of night were drunk, everyone else was going 80+...and weren't getting pulled over..go figure. I was a commercial driver at the time and was pretty picky about keeping my record clean so no speeding. -Robert Tom Hargrave wrote: Here in Alabama, 80 MPH on the interstate is more the norm. But from 11 pm through about 3 am, speeds drift up to 90 MPH. Run much slower and you are a safety hazard. Thanks, Tom 256-656-1924 -Original Message- From: Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: 8/8/07 2:01 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fords fuel mileage As long as you don't mind people approaching you from the rear at a 20mph speed differential, then riding your bumper until they can get around you. LWB250 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I did a little study on mileage at various speeds over the last month, and found that by reducing my highway speed from 70 mph to 55 mph gained me about 2 mpg per tank. I keep detailed mileage records, so I'm convinced that this was the result of the slower speed. I will say that most of my highway driving is for short distances of maybe 20-30 miles per trip, not that it matters. However, if I was making a longer trip I might consider going faster.. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel
Now THAT would be one sweet truck. I wonder what they had to do for front springs ( as the gears turn in my head looking out at the f350 in the driveway :-) -Robert Mitch Haley wrote: Several years ago, a fellow put a C series Cummins 6 cylinder (8.3L I believe) in front of a Fuller 9 speed trans, in a F350 4x4. 1050 foot pounds without modifying the engine. He had to move the firewall back, a C engine is even longer than a 6BT. After seeing pictures of International Scout repower jobs, I wonder if a 6AT (3.5L) would make a decent car engine. Stock power rating is a little less than a OM603, but I bet you could boost that a lot before running into durability problems. Problem is it's taller than a OM617. Mitch ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR
That ought to turn into one nice truck, those things are stout, not very fast, but stout, and they generally last a good long time. I seriously considered getting one of the crew cab models to drag my 5th wheel around, but there aren't any used ones around here, they're all in the north east. or California --Robert Kevin Kraly wrote: Well, When the good deals come, they keep on coming! The dragon boat club board is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500. it does have a couple of minor problems. The AC needs a charge, and some accessories still function, for example, the blower motor, when the key is off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty ignition switch. The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function as well. I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key off, the highbeams should too. Other than the above, the truck runs and drives great! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Isuzu NPR
Theres a lot of cheap mid sized trucks on the east coast cheap, but you really have to watch them, cracked frames, broken springs etc are commonplace, especially the ones that run NJ and NYC regularly. you can put 20 years worth of wear in 2 years there. ---Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Man the prices are high out there!! I'd sell ya my Iveco 15-14 Euroturbo for less than that.It's an 89 with 94K miles and a GVWR of 14,800#. How many boats will fit on a 19' x 8' flatbed? But of course, as usual, the wrong side of the country has what you need, again. Mike Well, When the good deals come, they keep on coming! The dragon boat club board is looking at purchasing a '94 Isuzu NPR with 195K miles on it for $4500. it does have a couple of minor problems. The AC needs a charge, and some accessories still function, for example, the blower motor, when the key is off which drains the battery which I'm guessing is due to a faulty ignition switch. The owner thinks that it's odd that the highbeams still function as well. I figured that since the lights can be switched on with the key off, the highbeams should too. Other than the above, the truck runs and drives great! Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
I wish I could get that kind of mileage out of my old ford 7.3 IDI international, but have a 1 ton crew cab with 4.10 rear and a heavy towing bed, at last count I'm getting around 14 mpg dragging 10,000 pounds of trailer around.At least no computers to deal with on that beast. ---Robert Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: No, not really. I am not saying the D/A gets better mileage than the Cummins. It will get 18ish without any problem, on up to about 21. What kind of mileage did you get with your last Duramax? --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Curt Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Diesel List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Tuesday, August 07, 2007 8:01 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel And drinks a disproportionate amount of fuel... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Re: GM 6.5L Diesel
Now that's a sweet idea! If you were to keep an eye on the papers out in LA every once in a while an old rolls in the state of neglect required for such an endeavor pops up cheap. --Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: Ive said here before, I've been dreaming for a long time of putting a Cummins engine in a '70s or '80s Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow. Those things have TALL hoods and I bet you'd have the clearance with little or no fabrication. There are already kits out there to swap a Chevy small-block into the Rolls, so some of the work is already done as far as mount fabrication, etc. (I.e. if you can swap a Chevy 350 in for the Rolls 6.75, and a Cummins in place of a stock 350, then by the transitive property...) Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo et al ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] GM 6.5L Diesel
You can find out about that beast over on the forums at oilburners.net http://www.oilburners.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=6 --Robert Kevin Kraly wrote: I've come across what seems to be the deal of the century on a small Diesel bus. It's a 1994 GMC Vandura cutaway chassis 16 passenger bus with the 6.5L Diesel engine with only 79K miles on it priced at $3500. There's no mention of the turbo, but I thought that the 6.5L was equipped with a turbo. Correct me if I'm wrong, and I hope I'm not since the turbo would breathe some life into what would be a dog otherwise. It would be transporting myself and my fellow visually impaired dragon boat paddlers around the Pacific Northwest. I forgot to mention that it's 4wd, kind of unusual for a bus. I guess you never know when you'll need it, but hey, it's there just in case although it's costing some MPG. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] CL
If you wanted to search all the CL sites at once, go to google and type in this format Mercedes site: craigslist.org and it gives results for all of them. Unfortunatly, I don't know how often google updates their search of craigslist so there will be a lot of out of date results. I just tried it, it still works. Robert Allan Streib wrote: Luther [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok Craigslist nuts, how can one search multiple cities at the sametime on CL? I know it's been discussed before TIA all. Last I knew, CL did not allow it. Some third parties have hacked up some front-end sites that search multiple CL cities on the back end, but CL keeps tweaking their protocols to thwart them. Sometimes they work, sometimes they dont. I don't recall the sites; I'm sure Google will tell you. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] AC bungholery
Tearing into compressors generally requires more dollars in special tools than the price of a new compressor. Speaking of which, that compressor that you bought a year or two ago, was it new or rebuilt. If it was rebuilt, chances are , it's a bum compressor. I quit wasting my time and customer's money on rebuilt compressors a long time ago. Quality control is junk on most, and you can get a new one for about the same price . --Robert Zeitgeist wrote: I gather the reed valves are internal and non-DIY accessible--correct? Damn, I just bought that compressor a year or two ago. Anyone know if other model Benzes used the same Nippondenso compressor in '87. As Zach alluded, there's an '87 260E in the local Pick-a-Part, and it'd be great if that compressor were the same. On 8/4/07, Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Low charge 2) leaking reed valves in compressor Casey __ '87 300TD intercooler/propane/biodiesel '94 100CSQ Avant '90 90Q '89 Bluestar ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Ford Ranger Power Steering
You nailed it. A ford truck where the power steering pump doesn't whine at least a little, is a pretty rare thing. ---Robert OK Don wrote: I wondered if it was normal for a Ford - or non MB vehicle. FWIW my 95 Mazda B2300 (Ford Ranger) has always had a whiny PS pump. Might want to ask these guys... http://www.ford-trucks.com/ Very good forum with very knowledgeable folks. :) John ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Air conditioning kit for 114/115
Parts on ebay Germany for an old Benz or any other European car generally go for way less than what those parts go for here. I've been known to shop on ebay Germany on occasion and save a fortune. Robert Zach wrote: Since you already know the shipping cost why not post it on ebay.de? --- Loren Faeth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Had a guy from Germany who wanted to buy all the parts to convert his 115 Diesel to Air conditioned. He backed out after finding how much it would cost to ship it there. It takes 3 boxes. Before it goes to ebay, is anyone here interested in the kit? It includes compressor and bracket hoses receiver/drier (but I'd recommend a new one) Condenser condenser fan evaporator with expansion valve Control with knob And a few related bits please email me offlist if you are interested I can't guarantee the compressor will work, but a new one is only about $200. Much cheaper than the GM or japanese compressors. Loren Faeth ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Legality of towing unregistered car in NY?
Most states won't allow anything to be towed with wheels on the ground without tags. On a trailer , you're OK . In NY I bet it's cheaper to rent a trailer than to call a tow truck ( after an experience with NY tow truck rates a few years ago...OUCH! ---Robert Levi Smith wrote: Anyone happen to know what the legality is of towing an unregistered car in NY? I've got a Subaru that needs fixing and I think I may let someone else do it, but it's not registered... I'm thinking I would tow it down and then maybe just attach the strap and mock-tow it back(assuming it runs then), but it wouldn't have plates either way... And it does go right past a police station... Anyone know if that's legal or not? I was thinking it was... But then I couldn't quite see how it could be if you can't pull a trailer without plates... Thanks, Levi ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] u-pull discovery
If you're in the north east or possibly southern california you might stand a chance of finding Iveco parts. They didn't sell too many of the things anywhere else in the country. Around here , parts are non existent for the things. Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So do any of these foreign parts yards have any Iveco trucks in them? Mike I would dicker with the guy at the foreign auto parts salvage yard I went to occasionally, if I was buying a bunch of little bits. He was a middle eastern guy, seemed to be by way of Mexico, didn't seem to phase him a bit, and acted like it was a normal way to do things, which I think it was. His first WAG at a price was always ridiculous anyway, and I think if I hablaed espanol I would have gotten a better deal to begin with. But that place now is up for sale, don't know if all the cars are still there or what. --R Allan Streib wrote: Visited a u-pull yard (first time at that sort of place) that specializes in imports. It is about about a 30 minute drive from my house. Was not even aware that it existed, until I was referred there by our local salvage yard. Found a left-hand rear jump seat for my Nissan Frontier that I have been scouring the internet trying to find. Noted that they had lots of late model Benz wrecks, along with Volkswagens, Volvos, BMWs, and the lots of Japanese stuff. Didn't see much in the way of older W123s etc. but that was not really why I was there. Quick question -- do you normally negotiate prices at a place like this? I did not today, as I thought the price was reasonably fair and I was just happy to find what I was looking for -- but as a general practice, is it worth counter-offering at places like this? Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Rear AC ducting
Would anyone happen to have any pictures of the ducting to the rear seat center console AC vent on a 126 ( or any others with a similar setup ) and how it is routed? Thanks-Robert ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HOAs Re: anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?
It's best to just live out in the middle of nowhere, no neighbors to worry about . Unfortunately, even that doesn't work sometimes. recently, we were annexed into city limits and Lately, there's been some subdivisions going in a few miles down the road, and whenever the real estate agents are having trouble unloading the poorly built overpriced dumps, they call code enforcement on every house along the roads going to their overpriced subdivisions.This all used to be farmland and hillbilly heaven. Put in a bunch of new houses and there goes the neighborhood. I think that while we're still in the majority, we need to start a HOA here and make it a requirement that each dwelling have at least two no functioning automobiles with hoods removed in the yard and at least one non functioning major appliance on the porch, so we can do our bit to preserve traditional Ozark culture :-) Maybe we can get the historical society to step in on our behalf ? -Robert Kevin Kraly wrote: I don't necessarily like HOA's, but I was thinking of a similar strategy to that of your Mog friend. Hopefully, we won't have to go through that. Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300Sd 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HOAs Re: anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer?
There used to be a cylinder head shop/MB and others boneyard in Little Rock, on the outskirts, and when the city encroached on it, it went by-by. I haven't got the straight story, but the word is that the guy got zoned/legislated/taxed out of existence. Big industrial development going in it's place last time I went by. Out where we are, all the folks around here run business out of their houses, some involve some heavy equipment, the guy behind me gets semi trucks delivering for his beverage machine business in the middle of the night. Non of it bothers any of us who moved out here in the first place to get away from all the citified ways of doing things, but for some reason, it's a problem for the new people buying places way down the road who can't see or hear it at home ( and I'm paying for a sewer on my water bill that got run to those morons along a different road just because it's past me, but there's no plans to run it up my road...go figure) -Robert LWB250 wrote: What really sucks is the situation where you live in a rural area so you can have stuff laying around in the back 40, and the area around you gets developed, forcing you to clean up to comply with new laws. I think this is happening to Bob, the 'mog guy down in Parrish, FL, about 20 miles south of me. The whole area is going berserk with development, and he's smack dab in the middle of it. I gotta call him and see what's up these days... Dan --- Kaleb C. Striplin, work [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: geez!! --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Mitch Haley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mercedes Discussion List mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 9:35 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] HOAs Re: anyone want a CHEAP 240D Fixer? Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: What were they complaining about the mog for? There was a town in Sillinois that passed an ordinance banning the outdoor parking of trucks, which included the pickups that several residents used for daily driving. I imagine that in the last ten years, as SUVs replaced mommyvans, they had to repeal it. I just checked, they modified the parking ban in 2002 in Skokie. http://www.skokie.org/public/truckpark.html I wonder if Moron Grove IL still has a gun ban? ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] How to remove diesel oil from concrete?
Simple green does a pretty decent job. Let it soak for a while keep it wet then hose it off. Refrigerator coil cleaner does a bang up job ( nasty stuff, caustic soda ) ---Robert ANGELO GIAIMO wrote: Parked my SDL in the garage for about a week while we went to Jacksonville. When I came back found a small puddle of oil about 4 X 6 under the front left fender. (It's a leaking oil cooler hose which is getting fixed tomorrow) Anyway, what's the best way to get rid of that big black oil blotch left in the concrete in my garage? Thanks, Angelo Giaimo ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A/C O-Rings
You can get AC oring assortments at just about any parts store. When you put the new Oring on, DO NOT lubricate it with ester or PAG oil used with r134a, they will dry the new oring out and it will leak before long. get a can of old style R12 mineral oil and lubricate the new orings with that before installing. Check around. Most places want about $30 for a qt of the stuff, O'reilly's had it for around $12 a qt last time i had to buy a can a couple of months ago If you have a fitting too hard to turn, Stop, get a can of Aero Kroil, http://www.kanolabs.com/ soak the fitting down for a few days, re spray it once in a while, then go after it. ---Robert Bill Gallagher wrote: My A/C has a slow leak since conversion to the new R. Is there a kit of O-Ring for a 123 to solve the problem If there is a fitting too difficult to turn, can a matte of exposy wrapped around the fitting hold under the pressure TIA Bill 1981 300 TD ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Free motor oil
No more free oil. I just went through that whole thing, it says to click on it to join the free penzoil thing, but once you do a message come up saying they're done with that one. ---Robert Sunil Hari wrote: http://www.firstdriversclub.com/login.jsp if you become a (free) member of their First Driver's club, then join the Pennzoil Platinum campaign, they'll send you a free case of Pennzoil platinum motor oil. I know I know, it's not Mobil 1 or Amsoil, and I'm not trying to start yet another oil thread; I just figured some of you out there would want free oil. Disclaimer: I joined this about 5 minutes ago to get the free oil, so I'm not unassociated with this. But I don't receive anything if you join or not. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ABS Flush
The inside diameter of the brake lines isn't very big , they don't hold all that much fluid. The new stuff generally appears at the bleeders pretty quick, especially if using a pressure bleeder and you've removed all the old fluid from the reservoir before starting. --Robert LarryT wrote: Howdy - I am replacing my rotors calipers on the - 91 300D 2.5t W124 - and flushing the brake fluid as I bleed the system. I am using a Pressure Bleeder and maintaining 20 + #'s on the bleeder. I am using Ate Blue brake fluid so I can tell when fresh fluid has filled the part of the system I am working on - I'll use the Gold Ate next time. . However, the blue seems to appear pretty quickly and I am worried the ABS unit may not be being flushed. Didn;t see anything in the WSM about it - should I proceed as I am or is there something else I should do when bleeding? BTW, I have rebuilt the calipers and cleaned any sludge out so they're in good shape. Am I doing all that is needed or is there more I need to do? Larry T (67 MGB, 74 911, 78 240D, 91 300D) www.youroil.net for Oil Analysis and Weber Parts Test Results http://members.rennlist.com/oil PORSCHE POSTERS! youroil.net Weber Carb Info http://members.rennlist.com/webercarbs . ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Chinese quality, when needed
Yup, and the US shouldn't allow importing of plated items from countries that don't have the same requirements. That would level the playing field pretty quick. I live on the outskirts of a town that has a major industrial furniture plant where they do a lot of plating. For years their idea of environmental standards was to open the windows at night ( I hate to think what the cancer and birth defect rate was in that place with all that lovely cyanide gas and other nasties floating around,but it was common knowledge for years that this town had the highest rates of allergies asthma etc in the state ) . Something finally got done about the place a few years ago and ( my guess is whoever was getting paid off retired ), oddly enough , the last few years , we've been seeing tons of squirrels, rabbits ,, and amazing number of large predatory birds( all of which should be loosing population due to the loss of farmland from urban sprawl ), lots of other critters and all kinds of assorted songbirds all over the place, even though urban sprawl has come to our doorstep. for about 15-20 years small wildlife and birds had got pretty scarce and the only birds stout enough to handle it were the starlings. I certainly wouldn't call those environmental regs draconian. Part of the reason that you can get high quality plated items from other countries is that they can get a whole building full of people to manually polish each item for about $0.50 a day each. ---Robert Allan Streib wrote: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Oh, and we currently import chrome plated beer towers beer faucets from India the finish is absolutely perfect, better than the product we buy from stateside manufacturers. How much of this is due to stateside manufacturers being hamstrung by draconian environmental regulations (chroming involves some rather nasty chemicals), whereas foreign chromers can do whatever works. Or is this not a factor? I seem to recall hearing that some of the best rechroming services for restorers are in Mexico, for this reason. Allan ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 1980 300D
If you're having to pay to have it done, the ac repair is going to start at around $200 min for a check and charge and quickly go up to $1400 + if it's anything major. Something to consider. Dead AC needing a compressor is one of the main reasons people dump cars in this area, they can take a little more and set a down on a new car. Robert BillR wrote: I am suddenly the transportation for not only my M-i-L, but my daughter and her kids [for a few months]. Lots of fun to see them after a year overseas, but I need some transportation for the kids. A lady near here has a 1980 300D with 176k miles [it is YELLOW]. She says the engine and transmission are fine, though there is a small leak in the tranny. The body looks good except for a bubble of rust at the right side of the rear window [can't tell yet if it goes through or is just starting]. The AC is not working and the RF window is broken out, which also wet the window switches. They do not work. Dash has 5 narrow cracks, front seats are whole but faded MB tex. The rest seems ok. She is asking $995 for it. I am considering having it evaluated by my indy to diagnose the AC and tranny leak. I think these cars last pretty well, but wonder what the main items are to look for. Also, what is involved in replacing the RF window? She has been trying to sell it for some time so should be willing to lower the price. What are your thoughts - anyone have one of those? TIA - BillR 1981 300SD 291k miles ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Do Google Earth pictures get updated?
Probably not often. I got a great night view of our house and you could see the heat coming off the engine on my wife's car...problem is, she'd been out of town all day and the car wasn't there, a little more searching the area showed two giant churches that had been built down the road about 2 years earlier, were dirt lots. -Robert Zoltan Finks wrote: So you can stalk your old vehicle using google earth - cool. Actually I have wondered something about Google Earth: How often are the pictures updated - or are they updated at all? I ask because I have thought the same thing - you can sort of keep tabs on things if the pictures are updated often enough. This way, I suppose, if one's ex-girlfriend was fat enough, you could even stalk her. Brian On 7/14/07, Zach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gave it away... But its still on google earth! Why? did you want it? --- Jim Cathey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am in. We can have it at my place here in Olympia too, I have lots of room and some other cool old junk to ogle. Unimogs, turbodiesel vanagon, Haflinger, MB 406D delivery van... School bus? Or is that gone now? -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Return of the greater Boston crack smokers
Those things were actually pretty peppy and got great mileage, but were poorly built and parts were impossible to find 15 years ago, I can't imagine trying to keep one on the road now. ---Robert Kevin Kraly wrote: I'm tempted to look at a diesel Cherokee but a v6 GMC diesel, thats gotta be the 4.3 which IIRC is 85hp... 85HP out of 4.3L? What a PIG! I'm sure it weighs more than a NA 617 too, and that puts out 88HP with 3.0L displacement. what did the original Renault put out? Was that a 2.2L NA 4 cylinder DIesel? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
If you do get occasional snow, check out the Nokian WR So far as I know it's still the only all season tire that is also rated as a snow tire, but they wear as long as most other all season tires http://www.nokiantires.com/en/tire_wr.aspx?season=summer In some places, if you get tangled up with another car on snowy surfaces, having the snow rating symbol on your tire can keep you from getting a ticket, and in some cases if you have the snow tires and the other guy doesn't, they'll rule it the other guys fault on the spot due to improper equipment for conditionsjust a thought. Personally I look at good tires for winter conditions as cheap insurance, costs about the same as an insurance deductable, and they're a lot more fun than spending the night in a ditch. and it only snows a couple of times a year here, but we usually get a nice dose of ice with it. Robert Allan Streib wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Questions for A/C wizards
Just replace the schrader valves in the fittings and get new caps, vacuum it down and recharge and you'll be back to looking for a jacket in no time. Those screw on fittings are the standard for retrofit. They generally have some high strengh loctite type stuff on the threads so they can't be removed very easily without damaging the threads on the original fitting. This is a requirement to prevent tampering. Ford AC systems are pretty stout, no worries about r134a not cooling enough. AC systems are the one thing the 'merican cars have up on everyone else. If it's an ofifice tube system instead of an expansion valve system, and you're in a hot climate, you might want to consider putting a variable orifice valve in the thing. They work nicely ( they don't do much up north in cooler climates ) Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: I've been driving my Lincoln to work because the A/C in my 124 is acting up and the weather here's been unbearable. Today the lights on the climate control suddenly started blinking (indicating an error condition) and simultaneously the engine hiccupped. I immediately thought, Ack, low Freon, clutch must have locked up for an instant before the pressure switch told the computer to disengage it, I've got to catch it before it breaks the serpentine belt and turned off the A/C. I got to work without further incident and popped the hood to see if anything was obviously wrong. While contemplating the compressor in my usual half-awake morning state I suddenly realized, Hey, those service ports don't look right! Indeed they didn't. Some bozo apparently put on those screw-on McParts R12-to-R134a fittings in order to recharge the system with R134a, and didn't even bother to slap on a sticker under the hood indicating that a conversion (such as it is) had been done. I didn't notice before because the usual red and blue plastic caps aren't there. The absence of caps on the valves, however, made it clear where the leak was: the high side fitting was actually bubbling with oil and escaping refrigerant. So I guess I need to replace that one---hopefully it's just the R134A adapter that's bad, not the real R12 fitting underneath. But then what? I know all the concerns about decreasing A/C performance by using R134a in a system designed to use R12, but this is not a Mercedes A/C system where cooling capacity is already marginal---this is a Detroit system, that when functioning right makes the inside of the car feel like an Eskimo's meat locker, even in ambient temps over 100. I still want it to work right, though, and not introduce any new leaks if I can help it! And I have no way to know whether any seals have been replaced with R134a-compatible ones, or whether any other part of the conversion was done right. (I suspect not.) Questions: Should I replace the fitting and just go ahead and charge with R134A and the appropriate oil on top of whatever's already in there? Is there a conversion oil that I should be using as preferable to regular 134a-compatible oil for a retrofitted R12 system? Is there any additive I can put in that'll help with the seals? Or should I vacuum the whole system, replace the receiver/dryer, and refill with hydrocarbons (for test purposes!) a la Jim C.? Is doing the latter but not replacing the R/D living dangerously, or is what they say on the sites that sell HC refrigerants true, about moisture not being a big deal in a system thus pressurized? If I go with HC, should I take off the R134a conversion adapters, or is messing with those asking for trouble (possibly stressing the old R12 fittings and making them leak, necessitating replacement)? Alex Chamberlain '87 300D Turbo '93 Isuzu Trooper '86 Lincoln Mark VII LSC ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] tires, again
I've never been fond of michelins either. They last a long time, but they're just plain squirilly. I've had about the same luck with Yokohamas. I had a set of those on a car for over 80k miles, but they scared me half to death when it rained or on a mountain road ---Robert LWB250 wrote: I think Michelins are highly overrated. I have Goodyears on my car and they have outlasted every Michelin I've ever owned. I have Dunlops on my bike, and they are far more popular among bike people than Michelins. In fact, I don't think I've ever heard a biker suggest a Michelin in a conversation. Dan --- Gary Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i spent my whole life worshiping at the shrine of michelin. my neighbor sells goodyear tires and told me to try goodyear assurance, which he'd sell me at cost. best tire i've ever used by far. On 7/13/07, Allan Streib [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Looks like I'll be needing new tires for the 300D this fall. We don't usually have enough snow here to justify snow tires, so I'm looking for recommendations for a good all-season tire so I can start watching for sales. I currently have Michelin X-1 tires which I got on sale and have been pretty happy with them, but they're almost down to the tread wear limits. Looking for good wet performance and quiet. -- 1983 300D 1966 230 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story. Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games. http://sims.yahoo.com/ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
Actually, the red hair guy was ... or at leas an aspiring actor way back. At one time they showed an old clip of him in one of the old Charmin toilet paper commercials, he was the young shop clerk working in Mr Whipple's store in the ' please don't squeeze the Charmin' commercial...with a lot more hair. That aside, they do an incredible job of trying to piece these things together, even if they aren't up to snuff for the purists in any given episode, and they're loads of fun to watch. ---Robert John Robbins wrote: They also weren't actors in their work before Mythbusters... ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Anybody watch Mythbusters? Just tested WVO in SD
That guy couldn't find his way out of a paper sack with a sawzall. The few times I've seen that guys show, I've noticed the annoyance on the faces of the people he was supposedly helping while they were quietly covering for his screwing up. -Robert Jeff Zedic wrote: I think the best example of an expert that couldn't really do stuff is Bob Vila. I was often amazed at how much of a noob he was at home improvement stuff. Jeff Zedic ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] killing weeds
The waste sludge leftover after filtering WVO and watery, nasty wvo not even fit for filtering is a wicked weed killer. Nothing grows there after for a very long time. For larger areas or near the house where I don't want to smell it, there's some stuff I get at the local farm store called Eraser that works infinitely better than Roundup and costs less. Keeps the ground bare for about45 days even with heavy rains. I like the goat idea though. I used to have a brush goat years ago, handy critter, but now days everybody around here selling goats thinks they are purebred show critters and want $100 for the things. Sheesh, who ever heard of a $100 goat. Robert Kaleb C. Striplin wrote: What is a good home brew or store bought spray to kill certain areas of vegetation? I know diesel works pretty good. Want to kill all living things in certain areas. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] this guy should be beaten too!
Ah, Battleground WA, the town named for a battle that never really happened. It's been downhill since . I used to live not far from there, that one is about par for the course. --Robert Redghost wrote: Yeah, but he is in Battle Ground. that is like West Virginia, so he may not be expected to know better clay On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:31 PM, Kevin Kraly wrote: http://portland.craigslist.org/clk/car/370261500.html Obviously, this guy was on some meds or maybe, he just happened to have this engine/tranny lying around. How would a 616 or 617 fit into this chassis? Kevin in Portland, OR 1983 300SD 267Kmi, Ursula ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slow A/C leak 240D
Yup. Initially they tested r134a with new r12 hoses and it leaked like a sieve , hence the hose change recommendation, than after a bunch of cheapie conversions were done, they discovered that r12 hoses saturated with mineral oil didn't leak in most cases so they dropped the recommendation. There are a few vehicles that have had problems with the high side hose between the compressor and condenser giving out after a while, so some manufacturers still recommends changing that hose out during a conversion I've personally never run across a seeping hose ( and I go over every system with a sniffer ) but I've had plenty of compressor seals start leaking like crazy after conversions, to the point that I strongly suggest that I put a new compressor in on any that come through for the conversion, and if they don't , I let them know ahead of time roughly what it is going to cost for seasonal recharges so they can figure it in. If doing your own recharges, it doesn't cost much, but for folks having to pay for it, it adds up to more than just having the compressor done after a few years. I've also run across tons of leaking old orings. When installing new orings on an r134a system, DO NOT coat them with ester or pag oil, it will dry them out and cause leaks and other problems. you need to get a jug of r12 mineral oil to coat new orings with , even on a r134a system. check around on price, it usually only comes in qt cans and most local places want near $30 for it, Oreilly's has it for around $12 Robert Kaleb C. Striplin, work wrote: Well from what I have always been told when a system is converted to R134 from R12, the oil from the R12 over the years forms a natural barrier inside the hoses. --- Kaleb C. Striplin Cox Auto Trader 730 PP Supervisor - Original Message - From: Tom Hargrave [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Mercedes Discussion List' mercedes@okiebenz.com Sent: Monday, July 09, 2007 7:51 AM Subject: Re: [MBZ] Slow A/C leak 240D The O-rings are just one issue. Some of the R12 lines are porous to R134A. If this is the case then the R134A will slowly bleed through the lines, leaving the oil behind since the oil can't pass through. Thanks, Tom Hargrave www.kegkits.com 256-656-1924 ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Slow A/C leak 240D
When the shops ran over the system with a sniffer, did they bother to run it up under the dash to see if the evaporator is leaking? Does the compressor or somewhere in the line have a high pressure safety blow off valve? Most systems do and if those things fail or get weak, the first time you are stuck at a light in the heat with the ac on , they'll pop open and out it goes. Usually you'll hear it and see a fog coming out from under the car for a few seconds, but if they fail in slow release, you'll never notice it. ---Robert archer wrote: Been trying to fix a slow A/C leak in an '83 240D off and on for the past several months. Two local shops were not able to find the leak with their freon detectors, and I haven't been able to find it with four cans of UV dyed freon and a high tech UV source from a lab. I've checked the condensate water from the evaporator several times for UV dye with negative results. I can pull it down with a vacuum pump and put in the required weight of 134a one day, drive it that day with plenty of cold air blowing, and the next day there will be absolutely no pressure showing on the low pressure gauge. I've never replaced any O-rings and the low pressure rubber return line from the evaporator is the original. I'm wondering what the next thing to do would be? Thanks. Gerry Archer '83 300D and 240D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil Consumption Creeping Up
If all the previously mentioned mechanical checks turn up nothing other than blowby, the rings may just be getting a bit dirty. I've had amazing luck with running a couple of treatments of Auto RX through old diesels. It does wonders for cleaning up sticky rings and bringing compression back up. I've even brought a couple of diesels back to life from the boneyard with it ( doesn't always get all of them though, it did bring compression up on my old diesel truck from the mid 100's to 200's , up to 405-420 psi all the way around, but one oil ring on #4 wouldn't unstick for anything on that one and I had to pull the thing ) check out www.auto-rx.com , not snake oil, it really works. Worst thing that can happen is you get a clean engine. -Robert Robert Rentfro wrote: It seems my oil consumption has crept up over the last several months. Now, at 176K miles, it seem to be going through one quart each 600 miles or so. It had been one per 1200 miles for the longest time. Nothing is dripping on the drive. The exhaust looks right but smells a little off (you know what I mean). At last valve adjustment (10K ago or so) there was no chain stretch to speak of. She's running well overall. What do you reckon the deal is? Bob R. '77 300D 176K 91 degrees at 0620 hrs, AZ ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] surprising experience at autozone
I even had to go through that at the VW dealer when I was trying to find a new oil fill cap for one of my diesel Volvos ( they have VW diesel engines ). The clown asks for model/ year and I try to tell him, just pick any mid 80's water cooled engine, and the guy just sat there and insisted that he needed the exact model/year to find one, after which I blurted. for cryin' out loud, just go back and grab an oil cap, they're all the same ...still didn't register...ended up mail ordering one. ---Robert Alex Chamberlain wrote: On 7/4/07, tom savage [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One thing that always bugs me about such parts places is the need for year, make, and model before anything can be done; it always seemed to me that a professional should be able to pull a part off the shelf if given the part number. Exactly! You'd think that given the number of DIYers who are into swapping engines and making other such serious modifications to cars that they'd be more flexible. I used to have a '71 Dart with a built-up mongrel of a motor installed by the PO... I got tired pretty quickly of saying over and over to the counterperson Just pick any early-70s Chrysler car with a V-8 on the computer, go and get the part off the shelf, and I'll see if it looks right. The most recent frustration was trying to find caps for the A/C service fittings in my Isuzu (R-12 system with GM-style fittings). Nothing was in the computer, but only the one guy over age 30 at NAPA could understand that A/C systems are sufficiently standardized that there might be a stock somewhere in the back of the store of generic A/C repair parts he could dig through for me. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] radiator exploded
Any plastic tank radiator over 10 years old is on borrowed time. Chances are it was just its time. I'm rather fond of Nissens radiators. I've never had a problem with one ( although I've heard of a number of people having problems with them if they ran Dexcool ) and on most applications they have more tubes and fins than the stock radiator. -Robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So my 20 year old took the 300SD along with 3 friends up the Kingsbury grade to Lake Tahoe for the festivities yesterday in 106 degree heat - almost three thousand feet elevation change over the eight miles. He was about 400 feet from summit when he noticed temp gauge, pulled over and just as he turned key off he heard a pop and then it started spewing. He denies it being in the red zone, and he knew not to turn the A/C on at all as a bearing is going bad in the blower. Dad's mobile service arrived to find about five inches of the black plastic radiator top had indeed blown off. I thought the expansion tank cap should guard against such occurrence. Is that correct? Had my cap gone wrong? Anybody else experienced or heard of this happening? I'm gonna do new radiator, hoses, thermostat and cap, but I notice Rusty has a Behr and a Neissens (sp?). Are these interchangeable, and any advantage of one over the other? Pretty straightforward job? Anything else I should replace while into it? Is blower replacement a manageable job on the 126, or did they build the car around the blower like they did on my 108? As long as I'm asking questions, anybody know of a good 107 list? Thanks for any thoughts on this. Steve 300SD 250SE 220 450SLC ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Rust and Solvent-like smell in Fuel Filler
If the car hasn't been run for a while, it may have leftover winter blend of unleaded and diesel still in the tank, which would be going bad if it's sat since winter and would smell like varnish., or it may have had real old funky diesel in it and they stuck some gas in there to give it a little kick to get it to fire. -Robert Zoltan Finks wrote: I have been grappling with whether to ask this or not, since I may not like the answer, whatever it may be: The 190D we recently bought actually has rust in and on the fuel filler tube and on the inside of the cap. In addition, I noticed when I put my nose down there (the first time I added fuel to the thing) that there is a sort of solvent-like smell, even gasoline-like. This is pretty peculiar to me, and my thoughts of course immediately jumped to what the seller might have done to, say, temporarily make the car run well (like putting in some sort of additive). Does diesel purge smell like this? And have any of you with a similar model had rust in these places? Wierd! Brian 87 190D ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
