Re: [MBZ] Double Vision
Curt, I'm on Comcast and for some reason I always get double posts from you, only you, and I have the digest version of the list. I just figured you have a sticky keyboard :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Carbohydrate counting - was Now Fruits
Andrew, We had pawpaw trees in Southern WV. I ate pawpaws when I was young. I don't remember the early bloom as Feb would be too cold, maybe mid March. I remember some of the trees being 10-12 feet in height and they did tend to grow in the shade of large oaks or maples. Great fruit to eat and a preferred meal of various wildlife as well. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Batteries
I've used the Bosch 49 battery with both of my 617 engines (123, 116). They fit perfect, last a long time, and have a great warranty. The price has gone up a lot. My last purchase not that many years ago was only $99.00. If you have a 116, 123, or 126, I think you'll be very satisfied with this battery. Just some info to add... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction
Dan, I love sandwiches. Hence too much bread intake. When I lay off the bread (behavior modification), I can loose 5 lbs in a 3-4 days. I think it also helps to add more water and less soda or fruit juice. To me, it's all about cutting out the foods that hang around (on your waist and butt). And yes Kaleb, some Benzes have two carbs, but I've always stuck to the injected diesels (altho' I did have two carb Corvairs when I was in college). Good luck to all in these endeavors... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Now Fruits - was BAT crack prediction
Well, I guess at this point the only question that remains is, "which Mercedes model/year contains the most carbs and which the fewest?" I always thought the SLs looked a little fruity while the Unimogs and full size sedans must contain high amounts of sugars and carbs. Knowing the facts about the different models will let you match yourself with the car you drive. It's nice to know a lot of you are trying to stay healthy. Myself...breads are the weight problem. I try to stay away, but it's difficult. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] BAT crack prediction
Ok, I'll go $5800. This is the Price is Right show isn't it? The other list has become the "Is the list up?" or the MJ sponsored report list. I have an 80 300SD, but it has a few more miles (about 420,000). Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Movie quote
Movies are ok, but I still like Janice "Ole Lord won't you buy me a Mercedes Benz. My friends all drive Porches, I must make amends." Or something along those lines. Clint got all the good movie lines..."do you feel lucky punk", "a man's got to know his limitations", etc, etc. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Diesel additive
Kaleb, I have two old 617s (80 300SD - @425,000, 83 300D @ 360,000 miles). I've used Diesel Service in the white bottles from any mcparts store. It works great, cleans and treats fuel system, etc. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Vegas
Randy, Kennedy was killed by a jealous husband. The police decided there were just too many suspects so they used Oswald as a patsy. It's a strange world. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Seat Question
I'll go back farther. My 116 has firm pad and leather. On a long trip, you arrived rested as you should. My 123 is good also, but the MBtxt lacks the firmness of the 116's leather and more firm pads. I realize there probably aren't in 116 owners left on the list, so I thought I'd add my comment. For its day the 116 300SD was a jewel and I still get a lot of looks when I take it out for a run. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!
I've always found that you only need an "active user community" when you have a complex product or one with diverse problems/issues. Simple and relatively stable products don't really need user communities. As a user since the 80's, I've never had to consult a user community for assistance. So, stick with what works for you, but try not to trash everything else that might work just fine for others. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Window permissions problem -- Help!
Well, you guys can complain all you want, but I've run Windows since it was an app on top of DOS. I've never had a problem that made me want to run to the odd stuff some of you guys are using. If you were only running Windows, you wouldn't be having these problems. I know Linux has an appeal and Macs have an appeal, but they are not mainstream. And mainstream allows you quick answers and fixes to problems. I wish you luck. Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Computer screwup
Kaleb, Just some info... I've been running Norton for years. It's free with my Comcast internet. Norton scans files I download and tells me if they are ok. If they are not, Norton deletes the download. So, the file never gets executed. I've never had a problem with the current Norton in about 10 years and that's running on two PCs. I know other tools may work as well. Norton also works with MS Essentials loaded concurrently. Just some added experience info. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] big oil dying (again)
I can't believe you guys are missing the obvious. The energy answer is the "flux capacitor". We can convert garbage to energyand we all know we have way too much garbage in this world. Or maybe the methanol out of landfills and convert it to synthetic diesel. Or maybe something that hasn't been thought of yet. I still remember when solar would be the answer, then wind, then coal gasification, and so on. We probably need a mix a many things, but most of all those things need to pay for themselves without expecting the average taxpayer to fund someone else's energy. Remember the company a few years back that got $650 million from the government and then went belly up? Keep looking. Similar to the X Files, the answer is out there. Best Wishes and a Happy and safe 4th Holiday, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Spam
Spam comes in different flavors now. I've tried some of the other flavors, fried as a breakfast meat to accompany eggs and toast. It is good and different. Not sure I'd want it as a steady diet, but for a change, it's pretty good. Just my .02. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Never saw this before
Curley, I prefer Mann filters also for my old 617 diesels. However, I have used STP filters and was pleasantly surprised and happy with them. I find them sometimes at AutoZone. Just a suggestion. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: Fantasy Loser
Has anyone considered how much more information the NSA has that they aren't releasing? The comment was made back during the Hillary "investigation" that all the FBI or congress had to do was get her emails, etc. from the NSA. They have everything on everyone. It's a sad commentary on our times that the NSA has such power to gather info. But the young woman who released something is the "bad person" and not the NSA. Another sad commentary on our times. Just some thoughts Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Loser
>the penalty for treason is death. Curley, apparently this is no longer true. Hillary is still on the loose. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] WAS RESTORED ** 1979 - NOW oil issues
Well, I don't plan on causing oil leaks by using synthetic in an engine that's not leaking while I'm waiting for the synthetic oil to reseal the leaks it created. I also remember that Marshall was always working on his 190 engines. He always used to tell me how clean his engines were inside with synthetic oil when he removed the head. I always told him that my 617s on dino oil did not require a head removal or head work, therefore, I wasn't going to pull the heads just to compare. Again, I can only state my experience with my cars while living here in the South. As always, your experience, needs, and results can be different. Use what feels right for you and your car. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Curt, When I got my Dodge, it was an off lease that had roughly 100,000 miles. It had been run with dino 10w30, forget the brand. I switched it to Valvoline Maxlife 10w40 for engines with over 75K. Both main seals were dry and I wanted to keep it that way. But I was tempted at one point and put in Mobil synthetic. As I said, it did not turn out well, but switching back to Valvoline stopped the leaks. I change oil and filter on the truck and both diesels around 3-3.5K miles. The Escape using Mobil synthetic I change at 7500. It uses 1 to 1.5 quarts between change, burns some I guess and leaks some from the valve covers. I asked the Ford dealership about running a thicker oil, but I was told the oil ports in the 3.0 V6 are too small to risk running a thicker oil. I think it uses 5w20 or 0w20, can't remember right off. My 83 300D has a block heater, but being in the South, I've only used it once or twice in 20+ years. For some reason, the 300D will start faster at colder temps than the 300SD even though they have basically the same 617 engine. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Gee guys, don't want to start an oil war. Anyway, if I lived "up North" which I used to, I would not own a diesel, but that's just my choice. As to the oil, I've said before, my Indie put synthetic in my 1980 300SD once, it started leaking a lot, so I returned to him with 2 gallons of Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 and he replaced the oil. Shortly thereafter, the leaking returned to the normal seeping. I also use Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my 1983 300D. The 300SD has over 425,000 miles and has never had the head off or any other engine work. The 300D has over 360,000 miles and the same applies. I also tried synthetic in my 2001 Dodge Ram 5.9 engine truck. It started to leak out of the front and rear main seals. I returned it to the Valvoline Max and the seals resealed themselves in short order. I do run Mobil synthetic in my Ford Escape v-6 which my daughter gave me. It was run on synthetic for the first 100,000, so I continue to use it for oil changes. My position is that you should use the oil that makes you feel comfortable regardless of what anyone else uses. Your experience will be yours as mine will be mine. Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Dan, most of my career was spent as a business process analyst. My background includes TQM, process management, ISO9000, ITIL, and Six Sigma. Then sprinkle in software documentation and training along with management and project management. Although I started out in retail operations management, that only lasted about 4 years. My wife has pulled me back into retail. I've enjoyed doing many different things and enjoyed the challenge of trying something new. A career, like our lives, is a journey...try to make it interesting and enjoyable. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Randy, it's not my maintenance, wish I could take credit. Fortunately, over the 20 plus years of ownership, I've had two great indy shops work on both my 617s. And now that I'm retired, neither gets driven very much. Plus, they have always been southern cars (SC and GA). I'll probably sell my 83 300D this year. I have four vehicles and just my wife and I so mostly it's one vehicle driven at a time. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Kaleb, I don't know what the zundfogle engine is. Mine is just the last 617 version put in the 116 body. It has some different vacuum functions/connections for the tranny, plus the glow plug relay is different. And of course it has the Chrysler servo. These things all changed with the 1981 126 300SD. It gets around 28 mpg on the highway at 70-80 mph, I have gotten 30 mpg when it was younger. Around town it probably only gets around 24-26. The ride is what I like...really built like no other car for its time period. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Dan, the air is currently disconnected because the compressor went bad. I plan to put it back together in the next year as it's my wife's car and she likes to drive it but not without the air. It's been converted to 134a and when it works it does cool quite well. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Floyd, it's a 617 5cyc turbo. But I doubt it will last a million. At the miles I put on it now, it will probably outlast me, so I don't know. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] RESTORED ** 1979 MERCEDES BENZ 300SD ** BUY 4 SHOW OR AS DAILY CAR!! $8999
Well, since I have a 1980 300SD which I've had for over 20 years and had the leather and pads replacedI'll chime in here. It is leather and probably what you can still get. The paint should last awhile, mine was repainted about 15 years ago and still looks good, clear coat and all. Yes, he should have used the softer, felt/fleece look carpet, especially for up the console. This carpet is too harsh. As to the engine blow by and leaks, he may be using that wonderful synthetic oil. The old 617 turbos of that era don't tolerate synthetic that well and run better on dino. Yes, he's asking too much, but if you're interested, offer less and replace the carpet. Unlike the 126 with its plastic sides hiding rust and poor seat construction (they constantly rip), the old 116 will last forever. Mine is still going with around 425,000 miles and yes on dino oil. I've only replaced the tranny at around 420,000 and the interior as I said about 22 years ago. It still has the original exhaust, IP, turbo, etc. Just some personal info to add. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - SharkBite Plumbing Fittings
I don't think they are as good as bundts, but then it's all a matter of perception. I have bundts on two vehicles and would never use hub caps. I also remember when all the plastic pipe came out an it was going to last forever...apparently forever has different meanings in advertising. Thought I'd combine two threads just for fun...after all it's Easter! Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] Tire Sizes
A question for the tire specialists on the list if you would please. I have a 1980 300SD which originally was designed for 185 70 14 tires. I've always run 195 70 14 tires for the past 20+ years. I have the opportunity to get a set of new Hankook 205 75 14 tires for free or cheap. Would this size be ok? I know some people use 205 70 14. The brand is not an issue as I don't drive much. My current Michelin tires are dry rotting from age and need replaced even for short driving. Thanks for any suggestions and advice. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (Doctor?) dragged off United AIrlines flight
Well, again, my only point is that if the airline and "police" can treat this man this way, then they can do it to you. I don't care what he is or did in the past, no one deserves to be treated that way. Now UA is saying they are going to pay everyone on that flight. Again, put yourself in someone else's shoes for a moment. You may think differently. I still think the gate personnel should have resolved this in the waiting area and NOT on the plane. Several people should be fired, both UA employees and the "police" that acted as they did. Haven't we seen enough police beatings in the past few years. Just my .02. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (Doctor?) dragged off United AIrlines flight
Very interesting. I've never seen so many "excuses" made for an industry which apparently can't schedule or book flights. Each flight has a break even point doesn't it? So, the plane doesn't have to be booked solid in order for the airlines to make money. And yes, doctors are more important than other people. If you don't agree, the next time you have a medical emergency, contact your nearest airline employee for help (or MB mechanic...MB content). If 4 people had to leave, remove the last 4 who boarded, simple. This random stuff is childish. The AMA should put United on its own "no fly list". Just my thoughts as I dislike all airlines equally :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] (Doctor?) dragged off United AIrlines flight
>From what I've read, if true, he was put back on the flight. And they were >bumping people for their own crew members to fly. I can see a large settlement >lawsuit in the offing. Plus, if United doesn't fire some of their apparently >overly STUPID employees, then it's a sign that no one should ever fly United >again. Let them become an Eastern Airlines. Just my thoughts... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure drop
Well, I don't know about anyone listening to old time MB folks...no one listens to me :-)) But, I've always used Mann in my two 617s and that was when they were both driven daily and had 3K oil changes with Mobil Delvac 15x40 dino oil. A few times I needed an oil change and couldn't get a Mann, I used STP oil filters. I was extremely surprised as they looked just like a Mann and at the next change, they were loaded with dirt/soot, just like the Mann when I changed so they cleaned the oil too. So, I agree that the Mann has worked best for me, but I wouldn't necessarily write off other potentially good filters, especially if you change every 3K. Now if you want to live on the edge and go 7-10K, you might want to stick with Mann exclusively. Just my thoughts. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure drop
Over twenty years ago when I got my 617s, I tried different oils. The Mobil Delvac 15x40 dino did the best job of keeping a higher oil pressure when hot. I've tried Rotella and others without that result. I've only run dino in these old cars, 3K oil/filter changes and they are both happy (360,000 and over 420,000 miles). Just some personnel experience to add. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Oil pressure drop
I've used the tranny fluid to lube the IP in both my 617s. As they were driven daily, I never noticed an engine performance improvement. I just did it to lube the IP to replace the sulfur lube they used to get before diesel got "clean" to save us all. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 87 wagon runs poorly - what to do?
Max, Poor a pint or quart of trans fluid in the tank and run it through. It will lube everything in the system. If that doesn't help, it may be time to do what I always recommend...see a mechanic. Or...get an older 617. I'm sure Dan could fix you up with one that would only take 2-3 months to get in good running order and all your spare time :-) Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HAPPY PI DAY
You guys do remember that "Pie are round and cornbread are square". The numbers you assign just depend on how hungry you are and how much you want to make. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal
Curt, I didn't need to look at the links and I DO understand the concept of the combo units and trying to save you the initial vacuum step with a regular vacuum cleaner. My sole points are: use a regular vac first for the big stuff and then pour the water outside. Or go ahead and tear up stuff using a combo unit and pouring the results down the garbage disposal, it's everyone's choice. Just trying to make a reasonable suggestion...use it or not. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal
Rick, I understand that. BUT, if you use a regular vacuum first, it makes the job better. Mixing the two tasks lets you end up with the problem Kaleb experienced. I'm speaking from my wife's point of view and she's never clogged up our disposal in 39 years of marriage...so I assume she knows of what she speaks. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] The conclusion of the garbage disposal
The real moral of the story is: VACUUM YOUR CARPET BEFORE YOU USE THE CLEANER! All that junk would have been sucked into the vacuum which is use to it and not clog up the disposal. My wife reminded me that you don't pour the dirty water down the drain when you can pour it outside. Just sayin' Glad you're ok now. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT garbage disposals
Kaleb, What are you doing with a cheap ($400) garbage disposal? Should be at least twice that and probably a Bosch to match the DW. I don't know if I'm just lucky or what but my disposal and DW are still going since 1999 when I built my house. And the DW is a Maytag, but I don't remember the disposal, GE maybe? Now to the serious side, can't you just put in some drano or some sort, after all, it cleans hair clogs in the other drain lines? Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: cell foniness
I'm not sure why there's a problem with the iPhones, maybe the newer ones. When I switched to CC years ago, I had two Motorola flip phones. Later when the 2 towers went, I purchased two iPhone 3s on ebay for around $35.00 each. CC send me new sim cards, helped me make the switch, and get me connected. They will even help you with the phones features, even if you didn't purchase it from them. When my daughter gave me her iPhone 4, CC helped make the switch effortless. I don't use a lot of the phone features. I can get calls, text, internet/web, take pictures/movies, etc. Not sure what else I'd need or use. I say this having NO experience with an Android phone or knowing anyone that has experience with an Android phone. Like our cars (diesel or gas, new or old), whatever suits you and you like is what you should use. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT: cell foniness
Curley, go with Consumer Cellular and you won't be sorry. Tell them I recommended you and I get a credit. I've had CC for over 10 years. I switched from Verizon. I purchased two iPhone 3s from eBay (one for me, one for my wife). CC send me the sim cards for free, walked me through the setup, etc. CC has great customer service. I just get the basic plan as I don't use cell phones much. I also get my AARP discount. I've now changed to an iPhone 4 (daughter gave me her old phone) and the switch of phones was completely painless. Yes, they use ATT lines. I get great service everywhere I've been and that includes the mountains in Appalachia, except at home as I live down in a valley with lots of hills and trees so I only get 2 bars of service. I can still use it at home ok as long as I don't walk around while talking. Just some personal experience. Good Luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] ADMIN - Re: physix problemz
I don't generally join the "what if" and "wishful thinking" discussion. But What if you could be teleported, taken apart and put back together. BUT...what if you have say cancer and the put back together is without the cancer cells? You'd be cured. I don't think time travel is good as too many negative things could happen, but to cure medical problems would seem an excellent cause. While we are thinking about possibles Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My 124 is idling rough (91 300D 2.5Turbo)
Larry, You should "vett" the shop for their competence. Years ago I was looking for a "closer" shop. I went into this shop and looked around, didn't like the organization or appearance of techs. I asked if anyone had 617 engine experience. The shop manager said a little and they had the manuals. Of course, I never went back. My too old Indies were my best. One had owned a 84 300D (I have a 83 300D) and the other partner had owned a 79 300SD (I have a 80 300SD). So, they were both excellent at maintaining them. Unfortunately, I now live too far away. My current Indie is pretty good, but he is more of a gasser guy than a diesel guy. Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fixing floors
Kaleb, Just a suggestion...contact the "This Old House" gang and see if they'll come fix your house as a show project. I've seen them fix issues like yours on their shows. I had a front entry way section of a house done years ago (termite damage), but it was done by a professional. He did a great job and the repair wasn't really that obvious. Just a thought and you might end up on TV :-)) Good Luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT but NOT political
Andrew, My daughter still gets mail from businesses, state, and local government about many things. BUT she hasn't lived at home in over 15 years while living in two other states. I think this 2 state voter registration issue says more about the states needs to verify and clean up their voter lists than anything else. Having questionable voter lists encourages voter fraud as much as not requiring a voter ID. Just a thought on this issue... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] As predicted
Now Curley, really, you don't think shill bidding occurs on eBay, do you :-))) According to the eBay folks, they watch out for that. Well, apparently they don't look too close. It's especially bad in the electronics area. That's why I try to find something that is "buy it now" that matches my price point. That way I don't have to wait and I don't have to put up with the shill bidding. Just my thoughts... Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Best Axle Choice
Kyle, In the 20+ years with my old 617s, it's always been basically replace pads twice, on third time, replace the rotors also. Once I got 3 sets of pads, but that was once. Should not be expensive on the 123. The rears go a long time compared to the fronts (pads and rotors). As it seems with all disk brakes, the fronts take a beating and the rears just sit there. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] fla Q
>>>Wow, time to find a new wife. Now Kaleb, you didn't replace your wife over the rental issues so I could hardly replace mine over a Q meeting. She has been my trusted and faithful companion for over 38 years so I will definitely keep her. Wishing everyone the best at the meeting. Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] fla Q
Manfred, It's a no win situation for me. If I told my wife I wanted to drive 6 hours to talk to guys about cars, she'd divorce me. If I told her I have to go alone (she wouldn't come to hear car talk), shed divorce me. So, it's just a no win situation. I know you guys will have fun. I'm just waiting to hear the resolution to all the car problems of late posted on this list. Besides, I use my Indie to fix my car problems. I stopped being a large scale DIYer years ago. Have fun and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Alternators
Wow, I've been lucky. I've replaced one alternator in the 20 plus years I've owned my two old 617s. Do both cars and parts just last longer here in the South? I used to live up North and I know the stress all that salt can put on metal and parts. When I worked, I always drove my 83 300D around 100 miles a day and it never had starting problems unless the battery got old. I like the Bosch batteries now...used to install Interstates, but now only use Bosch. Good luck and keep warm you Northern Folks, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 64 190D
I believe the black is just anti rust coating. My 1980 300SD has the same thing. Otherwise, you'd have gravel chips and dings in the paint and it would rust. The coating is like a tar substance and protects the bottom. At least that's what it is on my car. So, no, I don't think you'll get a Kaleb price on this car, sorry for the Kaleb reference :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Speaking of not starting
Gee, you guys must "pump" to hard. I have two 617s that I've had for 20 + years. One has had the pump replaced with the new style while the other still has the original white, screw down pump. I always tightened the screw pump carefully and tight enough to be secure and sealed. The one just plain started to leak fuel so it was replaced. The other is still working fine and again I've had the car for 20+ years so I don't know how old the pump is. Maybe you guys are too rough on your parts or maybe I've just been lucky :-)) In your write up, I didn't see where you tightened the pump, but I must assume that you did. Hopefully you'll get it fixed. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting
Sorry Larry, notice I did say I was "just joking". Hope you resolve your problem. I've wanted a newer model but can't seem to get past all the "new stuff" on models beyond 1985, and diesels that require extra gizmos in order to work properly. Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] HELP!! My '91 300D is Not Starting
Larry, Just go ahead and drop in a new engine. By the time the guys on this list finish recommending parts and fixes, you'll be close to a new engine price :- Just joking guys, notice the smiley faces. Best Wishes and Happy New Year, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Windows 10 again
Randy, Go to support for whatever computer you have and check for any needed updates, especially the BIOS. There are chip instructions/features that Win10 wants that may not have been turned on in the original BIOS in your computer. It's good to keep your BIOS updated regardless. When I loaded Win10 on my two old Dell Vostros (200 and 220), I had to update the BIOS on the 200 in order for Win10 to load because the original BIOS was missing a feature. After updating the BIOS, Win10 loaded and has run fine since back in the Summer. Just some extra info to consider. Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Windows?
Curley, when I loaded Win10 over Win7, it kept most of my settings. So, aside from some small differences, it looks pretty much like Win7 on the surface. Now, as I said, some of the setting menus, etc. are different, but the search box quickly brings up whatever you're looking for so not a big problem. I think the shutdown, go to sleep stuff is somewhat of a carryover from Win7. I remember when Windows did updates and then rebooted. With both 7 and 10, it updates about 30%, reboots, and then completes as it reloads. I don't like this because it can get hung. I think the upgrade completely first and then reboot is the best approach. Just my thoughts... Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT - Windows?
Well, I think I've listed this before in a previous discussion, but I've loaded Win10 on two old Dell Vostro Core2Duos running 4 gig of memory. They both are fine. I also loaded it on an HP Netbook, atom 1.6 processor and 2 gig of memory...it loads slow, but otherwise is ok. One of the Dells needed a BIOS upgrade. I liked Win 7 and I like Win10. I run the 64bit Pro version except on the Netbook which wants the 32bit version. You need to run through the menus just to see where things have been moved. It seems the children keep wanting to move stuff around. I have not had a problem with Win10 since I loaded it back in the Summer. And I have yet to find any programs that don't work. Just my experience, yours may vary. Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Clothes irons
If you want to say happy, I'd recommend letting SWMBO pick her own iron. Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Genuine MB Monovalve Inserts!!
While on the subject of monovalves, my 83 300D has a problem of all heat all the time. I replaced the insert, but didn't seem to cure the problem. Could it be a bad vac module somewhere, bad PBU, or what? Suggestions, advice, etc. I"ve been tempted to just clamp the hose, but that's not a real solution. Thanks, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 300D Strange Noise
Dan, Spray some belt dressing on the old belts before you spend money replacing them. Also, check around for anything that could be causing a "wind noise". I've got two old 617s and I've never heard either make a noise like that. Also, is your radiator pressure OK with no possible pressure leaks? It sounds more like a whistle to me than a chirp, but then my hearing isn't what it used to be. Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] SDL continued
It's an SDL for goodness sake. Sell it for $500, cut your loses now, and move on:-))) Get yourself a good 116 and you'll be happy and won't be working on it continually. It seems from reading the stories on this list that the newer the car, the more time and parts are needed to keep it running. Or you have to spend all your free time polishing it to make it look presentable. My old Indie always told me "if it ain't broke, don't fix it...drive it and enjoy it until something does break, and then I'll fix it". I have two 617s (1980 300 SD with over 425,000 miles and a 1983 300D with over 360,000 miles) and over the 20+ years of ownership, I have not broke the bank on either vehicle. Drive them and enjoy them. Best Wishes and Happy Holidays, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: A joke
Ok, try this one... A husband and wife are on the 12th floor of a luxury hotel. They start arguing, throwing things, calling each other names. Suddenly the wife picks up the phone and calls the front desk. When the front desk staff answers, the wife says "I need a maintenance man to come to our room immediately." The front desk staff asks what is wrong. The wife explains their big argument. Well, says the front desk staff, why a maintenance man? The wife says her husband is threatening to jump out the window, but the window won't open. Yes, there are a lot of similar jokes to this, but it's late Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Excepts from Sierra Club spam
Please don't side with the Weather Channel on anything. I live within a 100 miles of their headquarters and they can't get my weather forecast correct. So, please don't trust their take on climate change, global warming, or whatever nonsense comes up. Over 50 years ago when I was in school, the science teachers said the Earth was still warming because we were still coming out of the last ice age. Now, I'm not sure because I wasn't around during the last ice age. But it seems to be better that we are still warming instead of returning to another ice age...just saying. Best Wishes for a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Fuel Filter Crush Washer
For 20 years now, I've always used the copper washer on the secondary filter on both of my 617s. A few times, the filter came with an aluminum washer and it did NOT seal properly. I simply installed the copper washer and used my long box end wrench to tighten as much as I dared without risking stripping threads, etc. It has always worked for me. But I don't replace the secondary filter that often, but I replace the plastic primary more often. In my experience, the secondary only catches water. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Events
You didn't have to buy Windows. There were other flavors, some better and more usable. But MS gutted the price at I think $99 and took the market. I first used one of the early MS versions in order to use the Paint program. There were so many neat programs available in the mid 80s. MS later claimed to have "invented" them. Remember DoubleDOS (correct name?) and all the other beginning "multi-tasking" programs? It was a fun and interesting time and you had to "think" to make things work. Now we just expect it to work as a no brainer. Just some more "stuff" Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] A blast of music from the past
I spent a good bit of time in Puerto Rico in 1977. Out in the country side, not San Juan. It cured me of any desires for Spanish music. Although I did find the colorful fire stations very interesting architecture. Just another perspective.. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] No MB: Veterans for Hillary
Mitch, I hope you were joking with this story about 25000 WWI vets voting for Hillary. I did a search and got the following. Of course if you were referring to how the "dearly departed" seem to still vote, then I understand. How many WWI vets are still around ( alive )? * From Yahoo Answers I read an article on or about Veterans Day, stating that they thought between 30 and 40 were still alive (US), and the article asked folks to inform a website if they knew of a living WWI vet. Think about it, none would be less than 105 years old. Wish I'd saved the article. answers.yahoo.com Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Mercedes battery question
Fred, I've always used either Interstate or the Bosch group 49 batteries. They fit perfect in both my 80 300SD (front tray) and the 83 300D (rear, firewall tray). Can you return it and try one of these two batteries? I get excellent life and starting power from the Bosch. Good luck and best wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] 2.3 Liter 4 Cylinder?
Well, if anyone has been following the DNC etal Wikileaks emails, you'll understand why there will be voter fraud. In the past it was harder when there was a paper trail, but now with mostly computers, the fraud will be easier, especially where IDs etc have been ruled against by liberal judges/courts. I trust a lot of Americans, I just rarely trust self centered, self serving ultra liberals. When the Clown News Network tells people not to read the Wikileaks emails, but wait for CNN to tell you what they meanthat is pretty low news / journalism...if you can call it that. I personally witnessed vote buying by the Democrat Party when I was a child. And I haven't seen a moral or ethical upswing in the DNC over the decades that I've been alive. Being a scientist or believing in statistics is no guarantee of a correct outcome. And I'd much rather have the facts than the truth. Again, just my opinion. As I've gotten older, I've seen too much to blindly trust too much. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] The River
Curley, And from what I've read, the The River is still trying to go back to Texas. The Corp of Eng. keeps fighting it, but I imagine someday The River will win, especially if the New Madrid fault goes again as a big quake. Mother Nature can always out do any human activities. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Keep a fork by the TV (Mitch Haley)
Over the years, I've noticed that the Dems think their voters are the dumbest in the country. They may be right. If you go back far enough, you can probably find a baby picture of Trump. We are voting on people today, not people 20 years ago. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] signs of the times
I put out two yard signs for Trump and they were both stolen. There is such a demand for his yard signs, they are hard to get. So, since I'm retired, I now go on the side of US78 here in Georgia and wave my signs at passing motorist. I've gotten a lot of honks, waves, and thumbs up. I haven't gotten one nasty response. Personally, if my neighbors support Hillary, it says a lot about their character, integrity, and desires for the future of the USA. As I live out in the country, neighbor contact is not a lot anyway. If the preacher thinks Trump is worse than Hillary, then I'd personally stop attending his church. Just my opinion again. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Latest track
Well, personally I'm worried about anyone or any country being able to "control" climate change. So, in the future, who will control rainfall, droughts, snow, storms, etc.? This is a slippery slope to get on. I'm content with "mother nature" having control. The whole issue of climate change or whatever name seems to be more about funneling money to companies owned by friends who will claim to exert some control, but never really accomplish anything meaningful. Just my thoughts. Hope everyone survives Mathew OK. Best Wishes that all stay safe, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trump won
Ok guys. Go ahead and get the "name calling" out of your system. I expressed my opinion and you have the right to yours. Don't worry, I won't lose any sleep tonight over name calling. As I said, vote your whomever you want and so will I. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT Trump won
Jon, Yes I did. Having spent my entire life in the business world, I've come to have a low opinion of greedy and dishonest people of low character. Hillary has been that way her entire life. People don't have to support Hillary and her evil ways, but some do. I don't agree with those who support her. She thinks I'm deplorable for supporting Trump. I can have the same opinion about her supporters. If you support her, that's fine. But neither of us will ever set down to dinner together. Best Wishes and support whomever you want, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] OT Trump won
Max, According to the online AOL poll, Hillary won. This poll from a source that no longer allows comments on news stories because Hillary was taking a beating. This source run by AH, Soros' "hoe" of news sources. I don't trust any polls and I worry about the upcoming elections because computers are too easy to hack and change. I've come to realize that anyone who can support Hillary lacks morals, integrity, character, and several other qualities. Just my opinion. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Should I?
I think before anyone casts stones at the Trump Foundation, they should look closely at the Clinton Foundation. IF you don't see anything wrong with the Clinton Foundation, then please rush to your eye doctor as you are surely going blind. Just a suggestion Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] A car for poos
No, this car is TOO NICE for any of the "bottom feeders" on this list (and that includes me) :-))) This car appears in TOO good a condition so what would anyone have to spend hours of time fixing / repairing? Pass on this one. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry
Curt, yes I know how fast the new oil turns black. I should clarify that when I remove the filter, it is really cruddy looking. Again, I just feel better about longevity with a shorter oil change. Granted, the oil may not be that worn out, but both the oil and the filter look really bad. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry
Well, I'll say this slightly tongue in cheek. I do know more than MB engineers because I would NEVER have put a Chrysler servo in an MB car. After have replaced that item many times in my 80 300SD, I have to wonder "what were they thinking"? Again, when I look at how dirty the oil is at 3K, I'm ok with the extra expense of a shorter change interval. And with no engine problems at 425,000 miles, I consider it a cheap price to keep the engine internals, IP, etc. working ok. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry
I would add to this that the 3K oil change is more important to a diesel than a gas engine. When I changed my diesels at 3K, I felt good about getting all the dirt and soot out of the engine. So, while it might be marketing, it was worth it to me. And the engines are still going strong after many years and many miles. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Q for Larry
I'll add my usual different opinion on oil. I've used Mobil 1 Delvac 15x40 in my two old 617s for around 20 years. Neither one has had the head off nor any engine problems. One has around 425,000 miles and the other around 360,000 miles. I tried the other oils at first (Delo, Shell, etc.), but Delvac kept the oil pressure slightly higher when hot, was fine in the Winter (although I live in the Atlanta area, but have seen some cold), and really keeps the soot and dirt in circulation so it all drains out at the oil change. I always encourage people to use what works for them. I'm just passing on what has worked for years for me. And yes I used to drive a lot so I changed oil every 3K and that was sometimes every 1.5-2 months. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
[MBZ] This is what meth does to one's brain
Floyd, There's SO MUCH wrong with the car and the adwhere do you start to comment. I would think that this may be a combo of crack, booze, MJ, etc. A C300? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: How can I resize a Windows partition?
Hey Curt, I guess maybe I'm confusing partitions with "tracks". In my NCR days, I was given the task of making a "boot disk" for an NCR DMV desktop. It ran NCR DOS and CP/M which had its "boot tracks" as the first tracks on a 5 1/4 flex disk. I had to find the UCSD Pascal boot tracks on an 8 inch floppy, which were at the end of the disk, and convert that to the first tracks on a 5 1/4 inch flex so the DMV could load UCSD Pascal as well as NCR DOS and CP/M (it was a really versatile machine, but lost out to IBM advertising for the PC XT). So, I guess these weren't "partitions" in the true since but rather "tracks" for so many "bytes" that the PCs boot rom read in order to call the OS from the floppy/flex disk to load itself. Wow, this brings back a lot of old fun, and not so fun, memories of old days work on PCs. Maybe I am getting "old" :-)) Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: How can I resize a Windows partition?
Am I getting too old or have Window drives always had a small boot partition? When I worked on UCSD Pascal drives, they had a small boot partition. It was and still is my understanding that without the "small boot partition", the OS will never boot. I imagine all OSs have something they read to run certain tests etc. to confirm that the OS can in fact "load". So, am I getting old or just not understanding the issue here? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Curt makes the news
Curt, Remember the Dallas episode where JR had drugs planted on an opponent and then arrested? Just a thought. I'm having trouble understanding some of the member opinions on this. Yes, we are free to do what we want, UNTIL it causes a problem for others. I have a neighbor who is a real a**hole and since I live in the country, I'm told you can do whatever you want in the country. My old civics teacher in high school many years ago summed up civic responsibility quite simply as, "my right to swing my arm ends where your nose begins". I think it's called respect for the rights and wishes of others as well as yourself. After all, we do all need to live in this society which means we all can't just "do whatever we want". Just some additional thoughts on this topic. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: What's wrong with Mrs Clinton?
Well, after much research on the internet, the list archives, and other credible sources, I have come to the conclusion that Hillary suffers from the "devil biting her big fat rump". I watched her squirm in a chair yesterday while Joe Biden spoke (although a Biden speech might equate to a devil rump bite). I think more research should be done. I also think she should be evaluated by a good Dr. like Kevorkian or some of his associates. I'm certain Soros and the Clinton Foundation have enough funds to provide this checkup. I'm still trying to keep an open mind regarding her condition (so many varying reports in the media...not the mainstream media, but others who aren't afraid to speak), but at present, the devil theory seems to hold the most promise. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs
Mitch, I researched this on line and apparently the idea goes all the way back to Wilson and Roosevelt. Clinton set up a company (?) to start the phones. Maybe Bill was looking for a network behind the scenes for the Clinton Foundation collections, sort of like burner phones today. If you can't track it, you can hold the person accountable. I've seen many stories about these phone used for drug calls, etc. But I have no direct, first hand knowledge. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs
Curt, maybe you and Andrew can form a club, maybe called the Rose Colored Glasses club. And I'm glad to know of your father's low intelligence and your own personal massive intellect. Next time I have a tough decision, I'll consult you and then do just the opposite :-)) I only hope your sick on election day and can't vote. Nothing serious, maybe just diarrhea or some such to keep you home. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs
Curt, I hate to break it to you, but all white people aren't bigots and racists. I know that line fits the liberal media mold and allows so many to "play the race card". I vote based upon what I believe, has nothing to do with racism or bigotry, and I hope you do the same. Trump is merely stating that the average taxpayer, not having a job, not having good healthcare, etc., because of the state of affairs in the current USA, is pissed off. If you have a good job, live in a nice neighborhood, etc, then you probably aren't pissed off, but a lot of people don't have thata lot of people of multiple colors I might add. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs
My wife reads all the hearing testimony and the released emails. From what she passes on to me, I can only surmise that the people who are still supporting Hillary have their heads so far up their butts that they are looking out through their ears. If the establishment wants that POS Paul Ryan more than Trump, then the establishment republicans need to be dumped. Ryan is a POS in the mold of Boehner. Hillary is just a plain liar and a crook. If women want a female president, then at least pick a good female. The polls again are like statistics, you choose the sample and you get the results you pay for, but it doesn't mean they are accurate. Trump needs to keep speaking plain talk, that's what energizes his base, not kowtowing to advisers and media types. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] My new internet speeds
Kaleb, I hate to tell you this. I live East of Atlanta in the country and I have Comcast (Xfinity) cable. I only keep them because of the internet speed as measured on Speedtest.net which is: download: @ 90 mbps upload: @ 12-13 mbps Now, I'm somewhat saddened because my download was running around 98 mbps and since the scale only goes to 100, I was wondering what would happen if I went over. My SIL and daughter have Windstream (phone line) and they get maybe 3 mbps download and less than 1 mbps upload to which Windstream says they don't guarantee the speed they are charging you for. But they still get to charge you. All of these cable / internet outfits have bought the local politicians and state public service commissions so you have little chance of getting any meaningful help. One other thing that might help as it may be helping me. Years back when I was getting weak signal, Comcast installed a "signal booster" in my basement. Now a couple of years ago they replaced the line to my house (I live about 400 feet off the mainline and all cables are buried) and put a box in, but didn't take out the signal booster. I don't know that it helps, but it might be worth trying as I don't think they are that expensive. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time fer Merkel to move on
No it wouldn't matter if Hillary hacked the RNC because she is too dumb to hack anything. You drink the DC and DNC cool aid. Again, misdirection is always used when you want to hide what is important. Remember the misdirection lies about our ambassador being killed because the mob was upset over a video? Remember the lies to congress about emails and servers? Remember the lies within the Clinton Foundation about money laundering and influence peddling? Keep drinking the cool aid. Keep defending the crooks. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time fer Merkel to move on
I've developed my "own line" over decades. As a mature, educated person, I don't need someone else to tell me what to think or what my "line" should be. If you want to do the usual and "misdirect" and blame Russia (like the Wikileaks emails), then go ahead. But the US wasting money in Europe is the point, not Russia. Like the content of Hillary's emails and the DNC's emails is the real issueNOT who leaked them. But again, misdirection is the ploy used by liberals when facts fail them. I hope everyone thinks for themselves. If we agree or disagree, that's ok as long as our thoughts and views are first and foremost, our own. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time fer Merkel to move on
Floyd, I've been advocating for years that the US should close its bases in Europe and bring the troops and equipment home to be stationed on our Southern border. It would serve two purposes. First, the troops could control the illegals coming across the border and also help stop the drug movements. Second, all the money the troops spend in Europe could be spent in USA border towns helping the economy here not to mention the cost of the bases would be transferred to US soil. I totally agree with Trump on this. If Europe would need help, we could still be there just like in WWI and WWII. Russia is NOT the threat that it once was so there is NO need for the US's massive involvement and expense to "protect" Europe. Just my thoughts and others may vary. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time fer Merkel to move on
The detonation reason is simple. He had the detonator set as a phone call. He received an unwanted call from a telemarketer and well, the rest is history. It's hard being a terrorist these days. But Merkel should go. She's putting the EU wishes ahead of the German people who elected her and that is just NOT right in any language or country. Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Time fer Merkel to move on
Grant, I think if you check you'll find there is a "shortage" of virgins everywhere in the world:-)) Maybe virgins should be added to the "endangered species" list? But are virgins a species? Best Wishes, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
Re: [MBZ] Sleepin in
Guys, My wife has been following all this stuff on the web: FBI reports, Clinton Foundation, DNC emails, and more. She says the news media is only covering a very small percentage of what's out there to read. If most taxpayers would pull their heads from their butts, they'd be picketing in DC to demand Hillary jailed for treason, the Clinton Foundation dissolved and the money given to reduce the national debt because of money laundering and influence peddling, and much more. I guess the DNC "vetted" Wasserman just as thoroughly as they "vetted" Obama. Unfortunately, Debbie doesn't have the money or the future Supreme Court Justices to hide stuff for her. We should all give a big "thank you" to Wikileaks otherwise there would be SO much that we would not know. Keep your eyes and ears open, Roger Roger Hale Dinnerware Classics, Inc. Monroe, Ga. 770-267-0850 www.dinnerwareclassics.com ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
