Re: [MBZ] GM/What?

2005-11-30 Thread secbyte
Do they (GM) make any diesels now at all?  I have a 2003 duramax and 
that has an isuzu motor in it.


George Mason

wilton strickland wrote:

I also watched GM ruin the diesel market in N America.

Wilton
80 240D totaled at 15 yrs and 185kmi
81 300D sold at 24 yrs and 170kmi
91 350SDL 181kmi
87 300D showroom cond. at 94kmi

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Re: [MBZ] FW: Spring Pond Beavers

2005-11-29 Thread secbyte
I looked at this with my usual email skepticism and went to snopes.com 
the urban legend investigations page, to have them run the history check 
on this and to my shock it is true!


read more about it here:

http://www.snopes.com/humor/letters/dammed.htm

George Mason

Luther Gulseth wrote:



Subject: Spring Pond Beavers


This is an actual letter sent to a man named Ryan
DeVries by the
Michigan Department of Environmental Quality, State
of Michigan.
This guy's response is hilarious, but read the
State's letter before you
get  to the response letter.

SUBJECT: DEQ File No.97-59-0023; T11N; R10W, Sec.
20;
Montcalm County
Dear Mr. DeVries:

It has come to the attention of the Department of
Environmental
Quality that there has been recent unauthorized
activity on the
above referenced parcel of property.  You have been
certified as the
legal  landowner and/or contractor who did the
following unauthorized
activity: Construction and maintenance of two wood
debris dams
across the outlet stream of Spring Pond.  A permit
must be issued
prior to the start of this type of activity.  A
review of the Department's
files shows that no permits have been issued.
Therefore, the
Department has determined that this activity is in
violation of Part
301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural
Resource and
Environmental Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public
Acts of 1994,
being sections 324.30101 to 324.30113 of the
Michigan Compiled
Laws, annotated.

The Department has been informed that one or both of
the dams
partially failed during a recent rain event, causing
debris and
flooding at downstream locations.  We find that dams
of this nature
are inherently hazardous and cannot be permitted.
The Department
therefore orders you to cease and desist all
activities at this location,
and to restore the stream to a free-flow condition
by removing all wood
and brush forming the dams from the stream channel.
All restoration
work shall be completed no later than January 31,
2003.

Please notify this office when the restoration has
been completed so
that a follow-up site inspection may be scheduled by
our staff.
Failure to comply with this request or any further
unauthorized activity
on the site may result in this case being referred
for elevated
enforcement action.

We anticipate and would appreciate your full
cooperation in this
matter. Please feel free to contact me at this
office if you have any
questions.

Sincerely, David L.  Price District Representative
Land and Water Management Division


** This is the actual response sent back: **
Dear Mr. Price,
Re: DEQ File No.  97-59-0023; T11N;
R10W, Sec.  20; Montcalm County.

Your certified letter dated 12/17/02 has been handed
to me to
respond to.  I am the legal landowner but not the
Contractor at 2088 Dagget,
Pierson, Michigan.  A couple of beavers are in the
(State unauthorized)
process of constructing and maintaining two wood
debris dams across the
outlet stream of my Spring Pond.
While I did not pay for, authorize, nor supervise
their dam
project, I think they would be highly offended that
you call their skillful
use of natures building materials debris. I would
like to challenge your
department to attempt to emulate their dam project
any time and/or any place
you choose.

I believe I can safely state there is no way you
could ever match
their dam skills, their dam resourcefulness, their
dam  ingenuity, their dam
persistence, their dam determination and/or their
dam work ethic.

As to your request, I do not think the beavers are
aware that they must
first fill out a dam permit prior to the start of
this type of dam activity.

My first dam question to you is: (1) Are you trying
to discriminate against
my Spring Pond Beavers or (2) do you require all
beavers throughout this
State to conform to said dam request?  If you are
not discriminating against
these particular beavers, through the Freedom of
Information Act, I request
completed copies of all those other applicable
beaver dam permits that have
been issued.  Perhaps we will see if there really is
a dam violation of Part
301, Inland Lakes and Streams, of the Natural
Resource and Environmental
Protection Act, Act 451 of the Public Acts of 1994,
being sections 324.30101
to 324.30113 of the Michigan Compiled Laws,
annotated.

I have several concerns.  My first concern is-aren't
the beavers
entitled to legal representation?  The Spring Pond
Beavers are
financially destitute and are unable to pay for said
representation-so the
State will have to provide them with a dam lawyer.
The Department's dam
concern that either one or both of the dams failed
during a recent rain
event causing flooding is proof that this is a
natural occurrence,  which
the Department is required to protect.  In other
words, we should leave the
Spring Pond Beavers alone rather than harassing them
and calling their dam
names.

If you want the stream restored to a dam free-flow
condition please
contact the beavers-but if you are going to arrest
them, they 

Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-25 Thread secbyte
I have not replied to this thread because it seems to have nothing to do 
with MB.  But Now I must speak.


Lets not drag the Masons into a discussion where they don't belong.  I 
am a Mason and have been one for 20 years.  When I was a young man (14) 
I fell and broke my hip.  I was sent to the Shriners Hospitals for 
crippled children (All Shriners are Masons) they took care of me and 
would not except a penny in return.  I have seen no evidence of devil 
worship or cult like issues in them at all ever. (And I have taken the 
time to really look for it) If I don't pay my dues ($50) I get suspended 
from the lodge, I see no cults  having that policy.  George Washington 
and most of the sons of liberty were Masons as well as 13 signers of the 
declaration of independence. It was good enough from George Washington 
and I am pretty sure he would not join a cult.


If a cult helps poor crippled kids walk for no charge,provide 
defibulators to our local schools, Sponsor the local DARE program, Help 
locate missing children with their child ID program, take care of widows 
and orphans, and dole out 80 million a year to charity in PA alone, 
Never asking for an ounce of credit, then I will sign up for it any day.


I have been a business owner and A mason for a long time.  Some 
businesses failed others did better, but I don't think I can park the 
failure of my business at the door of the Masons.


George T. Mason, Past Master
St. Johns Lodge #1 FAM NJ
J. Simpson Africa Lodge #628 FAM PA

Gabriel S. wrote:

Do you have an Afro?

On 10/24/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


somehow, that figures...

- Original Message -
From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sad Death




hey hey hey, easy on the Masons...I am in the process of becoming one!


=)


On 10/22/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Gabriel S. wrote:


10 commandments in your home...OK! In our govorment NO! In private


business?


Whats the purpose?


In some parts of the country, people will pay extra to feel like


they're


patronizing a Christian business. The whole supporting your own


thing.


I used to live in a town where becoming a Mason was pretty much a
requirement if you wanted to run a business downtown. Same sort of
deal. People are more favorably disposed towards you if you're members
of the same cult.

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Re: [MBZ] Sad Death

2005-10-25 Thread secbyte
Not that I am condoning the acts you speak of, but In the 1700s in 
Virginia slavery was perfectly acceptable and fit into the social norms 
of the time.  As far as the adultery went they were pretty commonplace 
then as they are now. VD is another matter and where it came from, but 
what I have read was pretty common as well. I have neither heard noe 
seen evidence of this for George Washington. I have on Jefferson, who to 
my knowledge was not a Mason.


George Mason



Richard Smith wrote:

George Washington committed *adultery* with his *slaves* and died of
complications from *VD*. That does not sound to moral or responsible to me.

On 10/25/05, Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Free Masons are not a cult, Free Masons are one of the worlds oldest
fraternity's dating back to King Solomon...Anyone calling masonry a cult
is
IMO ignorant. I've met many Masons and I can attest that all the ones I
have
met are moral and responsible people.

On 10/25/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I have not replied to this thread because it seems to have nothing to do
with MB. But Now I must speak.

Lets not drag the Masons into a discussion where they don't belong. I
am a Mason and have been one for 20 years. When I was a young man (14)
I fell and broke my hip. I was sent to the Shriners Hospitals for
crippled children (All Shriners are Masons) they took care of me and
would not except a penny in return. I have seen no evidence of devil
worship or cult like issues in them at all ever. (And I have taken the
time to really look for it) If I don't pay my dues ($50) I get suspended
from the lodge, I see no cults having that policy. George Washington
and most of the sons of liberty were Masons as well as 13 signers of the
declaration of independence. It was good enough from George Washington
and I am pretty sure he would not join a cult.

If a cult helps poor crippled kids walk for no charge,provide
defibulators to our local schools, Sponsor the local DARE program, Help
locate missing children with their child ID program, take care of widows
and orphans, and dole out 80 million a year to charity in PA alone,
Never asking for an ounce of credit, then I will sign up for it any day.

I have been a business owner and A mason for a long time. Some
businesses failed others did better, but I don't think I can park the
failure of my business at the door of the Masons.

George T. Mason, Past Master
St. Johns Lodge #1 FAM NJ
J. Simpson Africa Lodge #628 FAM PA

Gabriel S. wrote:


Do you have an Afro?

On 10/24/05, Bob Rentfro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



somehow, that figures...

- Original Message -
From: Gabriel S. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Mercedes mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Sad Death





hey hey hey, easy on the Masons...I am in the process of becoming


one!


=)



On 10/22/05, David Brodbeck [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Gabriel S. wrote:



10 commandments in your home...OK! In our govorment NO! In private


business?



Whats the purpose?


In some parts of the country, people will pay extra to feel like


they're



patronizing a Christian business. The whole supporting your own


thing.



I used to live in a town where becoming a Mason was pretty much a
requirement if you wanted to run a business downtown. Same sort of
deal. People are more favorably disposed towards you if you're


members


of the same cult.

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Re: [MBZ] big time WTF?

2005-10-16 Thread secbyte

Okay, what does amg mean?

Luther Gulseth wrote:

ok, I see it now

On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:49:14 -0500, Hendrik Riessen  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Take a look at the back of the car. I have seen this done before but not  
on

a diesel.
http://images.prosperpoint.com/images/1487/75381-787.jpg

Hendrik
who might have to whack some AMG badges on the back of the 230E