Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-16 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Yes, many years ago; 'don't remember a lot of it. 'Oughta read it again. Wilton Cap'n Eddie the race car driver never had a driver's license, even in the 60s. Before WWI (the war to end all wars) no DL was needed Afterward, he was so famous. He said if he got stopped he pulled out the

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Jim Cathey via Mercedes
So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance papers? The console tray gets a locking jockey box on the newer 126's. You might need special tools, like a spoon or a popsicle stick, to break into it. -- Jim ___ http://www.okiebenz.com

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder... Mine are all at home. I can produce them if they want, but... they have computers in their cars - they can look them up. Registration / license are superfluous these days. mao They will have you looked before

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too. BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the officer and handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, I realized it and said, as I laughed and was withdrawing the card, "Oh, I gave you the wrong card." He also laughed

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
OK apparently is the exception. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 9:28 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > Andrew wrote: >> >>> I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder... >>> >> >> Mine are all at home. I can produce them if they want, but... they >>

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
die...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 9:30 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap >NC requires them to be IN THE VEHICLE, too. BTW, at a license chk point coupla years ago, I eased up to the officer and handed 'im my military ID, but just as he was taking it, I realized it

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
edes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "OK Don" <okd...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 4:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap I've never been asked for my registration . . . On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
; > - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Okie Benz" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:00 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread clay via Mercedes
If you actually drove one for a while, you would see that the 126 is a far superior car. The 220 is junk and will not appreciate clay On Sep 14, 2015, at 12:48 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote: > Sure he has spent a lot of money on it but a 220 should be worth a hell of a > lot more

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
That, too. Wilton - Original Message - From: "Dan Penoff via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Okie Benz" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Dan Penoff" <d...@penoff.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 2:00 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance papers? On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:46 AM, Tim Crone via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sep 14, 2015 11:11 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" > wrote: > > > > My (Tim's) 91 350SDL has right side air

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
cedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: "Andrew Strasfogel" <astrasfo...@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 1:59 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the regi

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Center console. Dan > On Sep 15, 2015, at 1:59 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes > wrote: > > So w/o a glovebox where do you stash the registration and insurance papers? > ___ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
; I drove > on. > > Wilton > > - Original Message - From: "Curt Raymond via Mercedes" < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: "Curt Raymond" <curtlud...@yahoo.com> > Sent: T

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
@yahoo.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:26 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap Illinois lets you get away with that? I'm pretty sure here in MA its a "produce your license and registration" or go to jail... I would expect a progressive place like IL to be the same. -C

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
n List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> Cc: Mountain Man <maontin@gmail.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2015 3:20 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap Andrew wrote: > I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder... Mine are all at home.  I can produce them

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
I've never been asked for my registration . . . On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The standard cop recitation when you're pulled over is "driver's license > and vehicle registration please". > > -- OK Don NSA: The only branch of

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Mountain Man via Mercedes
Andrew wrote: > I save all my registrations in the vinyl/clear plastic folder... Mine are all at home. I can produce them if they want, but... they have computers in their cars - they can look them up. Registration / license are superfluous these days. mao

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes
That's b/c you have never been stopped. On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 4:23 PM, OK Don via Mercedes wrote: > I've never been asked for my registration . . . > > On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 3:04 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes < > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > > The standard

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-15 Thread Tim Crone via Mercedes
On Sep 14, 2015 11:11 PM, "WILTON via Mercedes" wrote: > > My (Tim's) 91 350SDL has right side air bag; no glove box. Same for a couple later SDs I stripped in the junk yard. My 87 300SDL does not have a PS airbag. I love the SDL (in principle; seems I love cleaning the

[MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Former owner of my 94 S420 is still interested in swapping for my 2003 S430 even. If you don't recall, here's what he's done with the car since he got it in 2010: > > The car spent its entire life in Palm Springs minus one year in Orange County > and the last 5 with me. The second owner

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I'm getting confused. So the engine in this car is not a rod bender, correct? If not, what was the issue with these? Are these the ones that would crack the heads of overheated (#14 head)? Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad The 86-87 SDL is NOT a rodbender. Those came later and were

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Why in the world would they stick a passenger side airbag in it? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Here’s a link to a few pictures: > > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v4jqy37mencb754/AACTXTN6LSdEz2sJHcg-gucNa?dl=0 > >

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
> Interior > Interior swap from 1991 420sel I didn’t notice that. I wonder if it’s functional? Dan > On Sep 14, 2015, at 6:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > Why in the world would they stick a passenger side airbag in it? > > Sent from my iPhone

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Here’s a link to a few pictures: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v4jqy37mencb754/AACTXTN6LSdEz2sJHcg-gucNa?dl=0 Dan > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:43 PM, Rich Thomas via Mercedes > wrote: > > What's that worth in $$? > > -R ___

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
I'm not sure but it's sort of retarded to give up the glove box space. It may be functional but I kind of doubt it Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: >> Interior >> Interior swap from 1991 420sel > > I didn’t notice that.

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
I think a good SDL with nothing wrong would bring 10K, so it is probably about even value. (understanding the buyers for a perfect SDL are limited in number) Probably easier to sell the W220. Another way to look at it is: AN SDL that good for $6000 is a steal. Given a choice, I'd take the

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
It might be worth 6k depending on market but around here it would probably be worth 3-4k. So by your numbers your car is worth more. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Without doing a lot of legwork, a quick review

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Without doing a lot of legwork, a quick review would suggest that my car (2003 S430) is worth around $8k-$10, depending on the market and venue. I have roughly $6.5k in the car including my purchase price. Using that as a basis point the question becomes, would the W126 as described be worth

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Max Dillon via Mercedes
That may be why the SRS light is on? Oil leak and other problems may indicate deeper problems, which may be cheap to fix once diagnosed, or may be a nightmare if the work was done poorly. This car sounds more like a nice project, less like a Mercedes Martha daily driver (but I'll bet it is

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread WILTON via Mercedes
iplin.net> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 8:15 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap I'm not sure but it's sort of retarded to give up the glove box space. It may be functional but I kind of doubt it Sent from my iPhone On Sep 14, 2015, at 6:14 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Rich Thomas via Mercedes
What's that worth in $$? -R On 9/14/15 1:06 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote: Former owner of my 94 S420 is still interested in swapping for my 2003 S430 even. If you don't recall, here's what he's done with the car since he got it in 2010: ___

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Curt Raymond via Mercedes
gt; Sent: Monday, September 14, 2015 6:23 PM Subject: Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap It might be worth 6k depending on market but around here it would probably be worth 3-4k. So by your numbers your car is worth more. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 4:08 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes &

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread OK Don via Mercedes
"Engine - rebuilt." doesn't tell you much - what was done to it by whom? It now has an oil leak - should a rebuilt engine leak oil? What head does it have? Etc. . . . . On Mon, Sep 14, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > The 126 is the epitome of

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Curly McLain via Mercedes
The 126 is the epitome of Mercedes Benz. The SDL is the epitome of the 126 chassis. Sounds like it may need the center link between the tierods some day, but that is easy and not expensive. Sounds like a nice car and it should have lower maint. costs than a 140. Especially since he has done

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I've seen the actual bill for the rebuild but it doesn't specify the part number for the head. It is visible in place as a casting number, isn't it? I was wondering the same thing myself. However, since the rebuild was done in 2010, would the original heads still be available? I can have him

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Sure he has spent a lot of money on it but a 220 should be worth a hell of a lot more than a 126. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:02 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > Crazy how? As in I'm crazy or he's crazy? > > Dan > > Sent from my iPad > >> On

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
I'm getting confused. So the engine in this car is not a rod bender, correct? If not, what was the issue with these? Are these the ones that would crack the heads of overheated (#14 head)? Befuddled Dan Sent from my iPad > > >> On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:18 PM, OK Don via Mercedes

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
Yes cracked #14 heads Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:47 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I'm getting confused. > > So the engine in this car is not a rod bender, correct? If not, what was the > issue with these? Are these the ones that would

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes
That trade is crazy unless your 220 has lots of problems or you just hate it and love the 126 Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 14, 2015, at 1:38 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes > wrote: > > I've seen the actual bill for the rebuild but it doesn't specify the part > number for

Re: [MBZ] 1987 300SDL Swap

2015-09-14 Thread Dan Penoff via Mercedes
Crazy how? As in I'm crazy or he's crazy? Dan Sent from my iPad > On Sep 14, 2015, at 2:58 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes > wrote: > > That trade is crazy unless your 220 has lots of problems or you just hate it > and love the 126 > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On